Hot guys from Venezuela

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Being engaged in the filming of the Army Games at the final of the Masters of the ABT, I got into a situation where there was nothing to do. Colleagues with video cameras were guarding the next crew, and since there were at least 20 minutes between car starts, I decided to bring the body into the car park to talk with the participants.

Of course, the opinions and emotions of our foreign guests were most of all interested.

The situation came out more than peculiar.

It was not possible to talk with participants from Kazakhstan and China. It is difficult to judge if there were any instructions given to them. Well, okay, it's easier to give up on all these twists.

Next was the parking lot of the national team of Venezuela. Here I was in for a surprise. Nice but noisy. These South Americans, I will tell you, together can make such noise that our football fans can learn. The subject of the noise was our participant from the DOSAAF team, with whom the hot Latin guys decided to talk for politics. But he did not know who Hugo Chavez was ...

I do not speak Spanish, but since I had been in Spain for several months in one of my works, I managed to keep about a hundred words in my head. Enough for a start. Then the VGTRK operator approached, a very funny guy, and asked what was the price for such an op. I told him, behold, they say, our boy doesn't know at all who Chavez is.

Sergei took a very successful position, turning, in his opinion, to the west, and issued the phrase: "Hugo Chavez - u-es-hey fiyu!" Well, and accompanied by an appropriate gesture. Venezuelans gave him such an ovation that not only the representative of the press service of the Defense Ministry came running to the noise, but also a translator. When everyone was convinced that everything was in order, we talked quite normally. Daniel was fluent in Russian (5 years of study at Minsk State University), the problems were only with a queue of people who wanted to talk.

In general, it was interesting. For good, Kazakhstan and China - they are actually near by, and Venezuela is on the other side of the world.

Strange, but the artillerymen of the 43 artillery brigade headed by the deputy brigade commander arrived to us in the competition of autotechnics. Colonel Richard Jose Tores Granadinho found the time and desire to talk with me, and this is what I learned from all of them. The colonel is generally such a cool man, and his subordinates are optimistic charisma collectors.

Venezuelans were just in seventh heaven when they were invited to Russia for the competition. Everyone understood that there would be no chance of winning, but they were going to fight. And by the way, on the track they were not whipping boys.

Why gunners? Everything turned out to be very simple. They have a KamAZ in their brigade. Good old 4310. Therefore, the command decided that they would act, since the equipment was more or less familiar.

Venezuela is in a severe crisis. Such that Ukraine’s paradise will seem rich and stable. At least, so fighters told. They used their definition, which Daniel refused to translate, but I understood that, because the same expression usually went in the direction of the States. And then, making a serious face, the speaker added: "Yes, yes, in nature!"

Despite the problems, the Venezuelan Ministry of Defense even bought them the KamAZ vehicles they were to speak at. One 5350 and one 65225. And, by the way, the crew of the tractor took the third place, which surprised everyone a lot. Here on these machines they were prepared and selected.



My attention was attracted by their bandanas. Could not fail to attract beautiful little things. It turned out that this is a dual or even triple thing. It can be worn on the head, in which case. She can cover her face with a strong wind with sand, which they have enough in the mountains. And this bandana is still worn like a scarf, and is something like a parade chevron.



In the upper part - the words of the old motto. "Independence and socialist fatherland", "We will live and we will win!" With these words, Hugo Chavez used to end his speeches. Below: "Our principles: union, unity and commitment." Well, and between them the emblem of the brigade, of course. Red scarves are for ordinary fighters, black ones are for officers.

Generally, extremely open guys. All without exception. Miguel, the driver of the UAZ, said so about this: “Well, we were invited, we came here, everyone treats us so well, you feel that there are only friends around you! You Russians, it is true, are slightly dysfunctional, but your fighters are beasts, you can learn a lot from them. We have been learning all this time. "



I asked how you are in Russia. Interesting. All wrong. It's not like that at all, but fun. Especially fields with yellow flowers to the horizon (sunflowers). They were afraid that there would be ... cool. But well, everything is like ours (this is + 37 in the shade). The food is fun, especially the "crack." They are all what they were treated, filmed on phones. It will be at home to show.

He asked about the vodka. Have you tried? Well, yes, how not to try? Nothing, but we have better. And they got a liter bottle from UAZ. Will you? This kokuy, this is a real Venezuelan kokuy! After seeing the figure "alc 57%", I internally shuddered, and, thanking him, refused. 57 degrees inside and 37 from the outside ... not, well, it is such an experiment.

Talked more about the weather. I told them about the winter that it would be interesting in the winter. No, answer, in the winter you have exactly cold. And bears do not go to cities anyway. And in general, they have already seen the bear in Moscow. The bear is super cool. They have pumas, jaguars and crocodiles, but the bear ... In short, they liked our symbol.

Lieutenant Colonel Chavez (they only call him that in the army) is still a symbol and an icon for all Venezuelans in uniform. You know who Chavez is - half his own.


At the competition, Venezuelans rooted for everyone without exception.










But at the awards ceremony a bit depressed.


Plays the Russian anthem.


Army General Bulgakov and Lieutenant Colonel Granadinho. Nothing, next time it will be easier ...


The lieutenant colonel very willingly posed with everyone, did not refuse anyone.


With the captain of the Russian team, Andrey Rakeyev.

You know how our common opinion would be: it is nice when the allies (and the Venezuelans only position themselves so) are open, cheerful and charismatic. And they look at Russia not as a temporary partner, but as a kind of support. Many would like to set an example. In short, our people.



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  1. +32
    10 August 2016 06: 16
    Seeing the figure "alc 57%", I shuddered internally, and, thanking him, refused.
    But what about the breadth of the Russian soul? They wanted to treat you in a friendly manner, and you .... You discredit, you understand wassat
    1. +11
      10 August 2016 06: 59
      57% -40% = 17% Now Russians in the eyes of Venezuelans are 17% lower belay laughing
      It is necessary to correct the situation.
      1. +1
        10 August 2016 23: 16
        Quote: Good
        57% -40% = 17% Now Russians in the eyes of Venezuelans are 17% lower belay laughing
        It is necessary to correct the situation.

        Pilots, submariners and not only, they periodically correct it with an awl: 96% -57% = 39%)))))
    2. +6
      10 August 2016 14: 27
      In computer games on international servers, there is always talk about politics. The USA does not respect any country in the world. There is no secret in this.

      In southern countries, it is customary to drink rum. I don’t know what kind of fortress it can be, but you can drink it without a snack, in any heat and absolutely not chilled. You can’t drink chilled water anywhere.

      One American youtuber, a very serious observer of small arms, said that bondana can be used in 20 ways.

      Well, they probably speak well about capitalism only in Russia. Apparently this is how they teach at school.
      1. 0
        10 August 2016 22: 31
        And I have a friend from Venezuela (though not Chavez’s stronghold) - Santa Teresa recommended the Venezuelan rum - well, I'll tell you - cool! No worse than a machine gun ...

      2. 0
        11 August 2016 17: 18
        Have you tried rum that you say so?
        1. 0
          11 August 2016 18: 08
          Monarchist

          The difference between cheaper and more expensive certified products in terms of product quality is not significant, but significant in cost.

          Therefore, cheaper and more is better than more expensive and less. But subject to confidence in the certificate.

          The purpose of the rum is the same as vodka is easy to grind and without consequences. And taste is the tenth thing.
    3. +6
      10 August 2016 14: 51
      Quote: Corporal
      Seeing the figure "alc 57%", I shuddered internally, and, thanking him, refused.

      But what about the breadth of the Russian soul? They wanted to treat you in a friendly manner, and you .... You discredit, you understand wassat

      M-yes ... let down you understand ! But what about ours:
      Does not match ?!
      1. 0
        10 August 2016 15: 42
        And why on the emblem "liqueurNo", with the letter N written?
    4. +1
      10 August 2016 16: 43
      Moreover, the "latitude" of 57 degrees is the most, that neither is Russian.
      1. 0
        10 August 2016 20: 30
        And that moonshine in Russia was transferred? laughing
  2. +3
    10 August 2016 06: 31
    Because the army general Bulgakov was demoted to major general?)
    1. +1
      10 August 2016 20: 09
      It used to be four stars, but now it’s almost marshal’s epaulettes. In general, everything is a joke: to colonels, stripes on pants, and to lieutenant colonels of a hat in the summer. ;-)))
      1. +2
        10 August 2016 20: 34
        Quote: visitork67
        It used to be four stars, but now it’s almost marshal’s epaulettes.

        visitork67] I put you a plus, because probably you just do not know the history of the epaulet, well, no offense.
        During the Second World War, the army general actually had 4 stars,
        well then I don’t remember from whom year, the army generals had a star like marshals, at least in my days, who the Strategic Missile Forces general of the army Tolubko was with,
        then again four stars, now now apparently again one big one, something like that.
  3. +4
    10 August 2016 06: 45
    Venezuela is just a nightmare. Faster would have worked out.
  4. +1
    10 August 2016 06: 56
    Major General Bulgakov? Surely the general is a major ?!
    Venezuelans are very funny soldier
    1. +2
      10 August 2016 07: 18
      Quote: ImPerts
      Venezuelans are very funny

      Only profitable hurts! laughing
      1. +1
        10 August 2016 08: 15
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        profitable

        Krysis is wink
  5. +3
    10 August 2016 07: 28
    Yes, I like the Venezuelan team. Cheerful, funny. To Russians --- well, to Russia --- with respect! Some of them in the photo --- 100% Indians!
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  7. -13
    10 August 2016 08: 32
    Venezuelans were simply in the seventh heaven when they were invited to Russia for a contest. Everyone knew perfectly well that there would be no chance of victory, but they went to fight.

    That's how I do not share the enthusiasm regarding the invitation of delegations from an incomprehensible distance. What, will we, as in the USSR, be friends with everyone who only claims to be a communist, invite for free, supply weapons for free, and all at the expense of our budget?

    And for its citizens "there is no money, but you hold on", so what?

    Moreover, in Venezuela, now, in fact, a real famine, communist management methods have led the economy to collapse, the country is on the verge of revolution (and the actions of the discontented are suppressed by armed force).

    You Russians are a little gloomy, but your fighters are animals, you can learn a lot from them.
    Well, what if the symbol of Russia is a bear? You rarely see smiling bears except for a bottle of tea.
    1. +14
      10 August 2016 08: 58
      At least you do not sign in your ignorance.
      communist management methods have led the economy to collapse,
      The same people and structures, as in Ukraine, in Syria, and so around the world, led to the collapse in Venezul. If there is a crisis somewhere, or just bad, then in 80% of cases, the ears of the USA stick out there.
      1. -10
        10 August 2016 10: 40
        Quote: Orionvit
        The same people and structures, as in Ukraine, in Syria, and so around the world, led to the collapse in Venezul. If there is a crisis somewhere, or just bad, then in 80% of cases, the ears of the USA stick out there.

        Are you serious ? And who forced Venezuela to introduce a planned communist economy? also the Washington regional committee? or still the ideas of Marx-Lenin-Chavez?
        1. +3
          10 August 2016 16: 22
          You see persistent idiosyncrasy to Venezuela in general and the choice of the Venezuelans, not the Western model, but the Cuban one.
          What can you offer them? Nothing?
          Well, don’t act as a hacker, yelling at every intersection about the communist threat, one jumped from a skyscraper and jumped ..

          If Putin, while establishing relations with Venezuela, has defined this as one of the priorities in politics with Latin America, then you should not rumble here any useless nonsense, about supposedly unnecessary help and so on.

          The fact that the United States intervenes in the affairs of Venezuela through the nouveau riche related to oil is a fact beyond doubt.
          1. -5
            10 August 2016 17: 49
            Quote: The Bloodthirster
            Well, don’t act as a hacker, yelling at every intersection about the communist threat, one jumped from a skyscraper and jumped ..
            It seems complete your name, do not want to? It's just that you personally threaten me with murder, and this is a criminal offense. Searching for you on ip for a long time, it will be easier and faster.

            Quote: The Bloodthirster
            If Putin, establishing relations with Venezuela, has defined this as one of the priorities in politics with Latin America, then you should not grumble here
            Firstly, it was not Putin who established it, but our concerns. Secondly, good "adjustment" - the supply of weapons and the construction of drug factories for free. Remind me that the USSR overstrained from this practice?
            1. +3
              10 August 2016 18: 25
              One must be a truly cowardly liberalist in order to see the threat of killing some undergrowth in the commentary, when the comment is about McNamara, who yelled so heart-rendingly that the Russians, that is, the communists go, that he believed and kicked from a skyscraper.

              Second, you must be truly a fool to talk about issues that you have no idea about. It concerns cooperation with Venezuela. And this is a liberal fornication, a complex of scientific, technical, economic, military and political issues that is decided by the country's leadership, and not by your concerns, which only FULFILL in this case the will of the President.

              And the last, the USSR, in spite of your nonsense, didn’t overtake, no matter how you swamped by swamp fumes, the USSR was killed by a group of people by conspiracy.
              Leontiev’s opinion (I don’t specifically indicate who it is, you’ll find a great googel) there are no reasons for the defeat of the USSR. Even in the conditions of the notorious stagnation, the economy grew
              3% (THREE \) and not 1,2% as of now.
              So do not repeat the set of stupid myths, already fed up with your crap.

              And the topic of the article is not about the state of affairs in Venezuela.
              Expose your own, on the topic of how everything is bad around, and there we are piling.
              1. -6
                10 August 2016 19: 47
                Quote: The Bloodthirster
                One must be a truly cowardly liberalist in order to see the threat of killing some undergrowth in a commentary

                Once again - you would be more careful with threats through the electronic media.

                Quote: The Bloodthirster
                The USSR, contrary to your nonsense, didn’t overtake, no matter how you swamped by swamp fumes, the USSR was killed by a group of persons by conspiracy.
                This is a controversial topic, we will not discuss it here.

                Quote: The Bloodthirster
                .Even in the conditions of the notorious stagnation had an economic growth in
                3% (THREE \) and not 1,2% as of now.
                First of all, in the USSR, if they knew how to do anything, it’s postscripts and execute plans on paper.

                And secondly, despite the alleged growth, then, before the collapse of the USSR, nothing happened in stores. Now, in modern Russia, in the conditions of capitalism damned for you, even in conditions of international sanctions, everything is in stores.
                1. +5
                  10 August 2016 20: 24
                  The reincarnation of McNamara ???
                  The topic is not controversial, so clear.
                  What they knew how to do in the USSR, you still eat three throats, you can’t gobble up.
                  There was nothing in the stores. Creative and ideologically charged Gabriel Popov became one of the leaders in the implementation of MDG software installations. Here are the facts.

                  At the beginning of October 1989 in the capital, a meeting of the "Conference of the Moscow association of the club of voters". It openly set the task of creating a shortage of consumer goods and services, as the most effective means of struggle to overthrow the existing political power. Gavriil Popov, who spoke at the meeting, then said: “In order to achieve general popular indignation, we need to bring the system to such a state that nothing can be acquired. In this way, general strikes of Moscow workers can be achieved. ” His thesis was developed by another delegate of the conference, a certain Vlasov, who urged us not to be lazy with the choice of means to combat the party nomenclature: “Any means of struggle are good for seizing power.” In the final speech, G. Popov concluded: “We have every chance to win. It is only necessary to register each deputy of the RSFSR. He should know that if he does not vote, as the inter-regional group will say, it will become impossible for him to live in this country. ” [link to www.sovross / ni / 2004/16 / link to 11641.htm].
              2. 0
                10 August 2016 22: 19
                Not McNamara jumped.))
                1. 0
                  11 August 2016 08: 44
                  A colleague, but what, in essence, a vegetable wouldn’t have jumped there, the essence is the same, they will scare themselves to hysteria before psychosis, and after that they say who it is ... and yes, Douglas MacArthur, but the liberalist doesn’t know that either, so what difference, mcnamara, macArthur or some other obama with mccain.
                  1. +1
                    12 August 2016 00: 11
                    MacNamara, MacArthur or some other Obama with McCain
                    James Forrestal, actually.
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            3. 0
              10 August 2016 19: 04
              And you do not want to introduce yourself with your real names ??? !!!!!!!
            4. 0
              11 August 2016 17: 48
              Lieutenant colonel! I disagree: 1) You carefully read the "bloodsucker": "... do not take the role of a claque, yelling at every intersection about the communist threat, one got off a skyscraper jumped out" he only reminded about Mr. McNamara, who kept repeating everything about the communists and Russians that went crazy. And you took everything literally - it gives away mania.
              You say: "It was not Putin who set it up, but our concerns .." Since when did the capitalists become altruists, or are there disguised communists sitting there?
    2. +4
      10 August 2016 14: 26
      Have you been to Venezuela recently? We already heard about hunger in Russia (hedgehogs, cats, rats).
      1. -2
        10 August 2016 18: 05
        Quote: dumpy15
        Have you been to Venezuela recently?

        I have been to Cuba repeatedly in person. My friends visited Venezuela. So I know the situation first hand. And she is not at all bright. By the way, the authors are very competent and very respected people who wrote about the crisis for a reason, they also really know the situation, just did not focus on it, just talking about the joy of personal communication with allies.
        1. 0
          10 August 2016 19: 09
          Here, no political topics are raised (practically) ... I re-read your comments more carefully - and are you the TROLL, not a balcony?
        2. 0
          10 August 2016 20: 18
          Yes you are a sorcerer. Five years ahead and three meters deeper. The secret thoughts of the authors comprehended with a half kick. Smiled.
    3. +3
      10 August 2016 15: 41
      Warrior2015

      Under the USSR, it was possible that there were deeds of an economic plan that seemed wasteful. But this is a superficial look.

      Russia is not a socialist country, you still have much to strive for. It is proud to say frankly so far early.

      But showing respect for other countries at a low cost is very important. Such moments may not change for long, but at the right time they are remembered.
      1. +1
        10 August 2016 16: 46
        Quote: Warrior2015

        That's how I do not share the enthusiasm regarding the invitation of delegations from an incomprehensible distance. What, will we, as in the USSR, be friends with everyone who only claims to be a communist, invite for free, supply weapons for free, and all at the expense of our budget?

        This is exactly what happens to my great pleasure. Here in the Military Archive there was an article about "the guys from the backyard", there was also an article about how small and less developed countries than the USSR during the Second World War supported the USSR as much as they could. Russia is a member of different unions .... And there, many count on the support of Russia .....
        Wouldn't you be delighted if Russia - there strangled someone, there ---- bombed, "Guantonamo-2" would open ???
        Quote: gladcu2
        In computer games on international servers, there is always talk about politics. The USA does not respect any country in the world. There is no secret in this.
        .
      2. -2
        10 August 2016 17: 53
        Quote: gladcu2
        But showing respect for other countries at a low cost is very important.

        Insignificant price ???? Do you know the volume of credit lines extended to Venezuela? I know only partially and am horrified by this.

        You see, for the Russians - "There is no money, but you hold on", and for the Chavezites, who are already hated by a BIG part of their own people - free supplies?

        So then we get Syria-2, when we have to force a weapon to maintain a relatively loyal regime against which most of the country's main ethnic-religious group is opposed?

        I do not want the death of either Russia or its economy, but prosperity. Therefore, against adventures.
        1. +3
          10 August 2016 18: 07
          Quote: Warrior2015
          but for the Chavezites, whom a LOT of their people already hate

          Otkel firewood? In the sense of the hatred of the Chavezites by the majority of the "people"? Or did you mean the "best" part?
          Chavez in Venezuela is remembered and loved.
          Quote: Warrior2015
          against which most of the country's main ethnic-religious group is opposed?

          In Iraq, Saddam also represented the Sunni minority. Most Shiites and Kurds wished him to leave. What is the result of leaving we all in the know. hi
          1. -2
            10 August 2016 18: 18
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            In Iraq, Saddam also represented the Sunni minority. Most Shiites and Kurds wished him to leave.

            Where did I explain the firewood above. God forbid you to live in Venezuela as a simple citizen with no dollar proceeds in your pockets.

            The situation in Iraq was DIRECTLY different and different from the situation in Syria. Both ethnically and religiously. And an example with Chavez-Madurro and Assad Jr. quite straightforward.
            1. +1
              10 August 2016 20: 26
              Quote: Warrior2015
              Where did I explain the firewood above. God forbid you to live in Venezuela as a simple citizen with no dollar proceeds in your pockets.

              They didn’t explain. Do you have any polls related to Chávez?
              Quote: Warrior2015
              The situation in Iraq was DIRECTLY different and different from the situation in Syria. Both ethnically and religiously.

              There are differences, but not CARDINAL.
        2. +2
          10 August 2016 19: 21
          I will repeat once again - you are SCUM and PROVOCATOR ... What can you know about "Do you know the amount of credit lines provided to Venezuela" (by the way - Venezuela - spelled with one L - Venezuela) - you are an employee of the state structures of the Russian Federation for interaction with Venezuela ??? , that is, you are here disclosing data constituting a state secret ??? ....... People came to the competition (unlike the 2016 Olympics - there is a minimum of undercover political games here), and receive praise for what they can and do, and everything else is from the evil one.

          Your posts are in deep "minus" - so it's time to change your petty username !!!)))
          1. -2
            10 August 2016 19: 31
            Quote: Waroc
            I will repeat once again - you are SCUM and PROVOCATOR ... What can you know about "Do you know the amount of credit lines provided to Venezuela" (by the way - Venezuela - spelled with one L - Venezuela) - you are an employee of the state structures of the Russian Federation for interaction with Venezuela ??? , that is, you are disclosing data constituting a state secret here ???.

            Easy cornering, comrade.

            I am not an employee of state bodies, I do not disclose state and commercial secrets and therefore I speak quite freely.

            If you have adequate arguments, answer, but do not be rude in response to fair criticism.
            1. +2
              10 August 2016 20: 36
              Texas coyote you "comrade"
              And the level of reasoning about Venezuela, exactly the same as the nightmares about the DPRK, have you changed your record?
              1. -1
                11 August 2016 06: 48
                Quote: The Bloodthirster
                And the level of reasoning about Venezuela, exactly the same as the nightmares about the DPRK, have you changed your record?

                It is you who are throwing copy-paste and agitation, it is apparently very difficult for you to conduct a normal, thoughtful dialogue.
                1. 0
                  11 August 2016 08: 45
                  A real and thoughtful dialogue with you?
                  Is it all in style, it's time out the window, are the Communists stuck?
  8. +5
    10 August 2016 08: 37
    Reporting about the Venezuelans - class! Directly, lively ... and just interesting.
  9. +1
    10 August 2016 08: 39
    good guys, respect them laughing
  10. +5
    10 August 2016 08: 45
    The subject of noise was our member from the DOSAAF team, with whom the hot Latin guys decided to talk for politics. And he did not know who Hugo Chavez was.
    To shoot the political officer of DOSAAF. I.V. Stalin
  11. +3
    10 August 2016 08: 53
    After reading, I got a real pleasure.
    Thanks for the positive note!
  12. 0
    10 August 2016 09: 20
    In general, the article is very good, received a certain emotional charge. But ... Either I misunderstood something - and here the phrase: "Hugo Chavez - u-es-hey fakyu!"for rating? So this is a minus!
  13. +1
    10 August 2016 10: 21
    About other teams in the same vein?
  14. +7
    10 August 2016 10: 41
    The article is positive but it didn’t work out well with vodka. The report is somehow unfinished. I had to try it, but now sit and think whose vodka is better.
  15. -7
    10 August 2016 10: 49
    Quote: Knizhnik
    About other teams in the same vein?

    Yes, I would love to read about the Chinese - these are by the way quite solvent and are unlikely to go at our expense.

    In general, Russia needs to learn to choose allies - and not on the example of the USSR, which fed half the world at its own expense, and then these "allies" wanted to spit on us, but for example the same Naglo-Saxons who choose strong and solvent countries with adequate political modes.
    1. +2
      10 August 2016 14: 28
      countries like ruin, for example?
      1. 0
        10 August 2016 17: 57
        Quote: dumpy15
        cocks like ruin, for example?

        No, but in Latin America you can actively be friends (and on a non-paid basis, as is the case with Cuba and Venezuela, but on a completely financially mutually beneficial basis) with Argentina, Brazil and Chile. These countries have developed economies and fairly stable regimes - only in Brazil we again lost a lot by putting Dilma Rousseff (who also talked about the supposedly socialist path of development), and she turned out to be a banal thief.
        1. +2
          10 August 2016 19: 33
          You again confuse the warm with the soft - Venezuela has been a major buyer of our weapons for many years (though mostly small arms and helicopters, but not all at once, but now they have difficulties - and we don’t have them ???), and it is ours ( albeit perhaps a temporary) ally in Latin America. So - do not la la - these questions: with whom to have friendly or not friendly relations - not your mind * (or its absence, or its replacement with a purse for silver pieces), business !!! ...

          PS: * - And not even mine (((.....
          1. -2
            10 August 2016 19: 51
            Quote: Waroc
            and is also our (albeit perhaps temporary) ally in Latin America.

            I am in favor of not repeating the mistakes of the USSR, and not squandering state funds into obscure regimes that become hateful for the majority of the people and at the earliest opportunity sit on a suction to the Yankees. Once again - we need to learn how to choose allies (in the beginning, at least to preserve China, Kazakhstan and Brazil among them).

            PS I am waiting for an apology from you for rudeness.
            1. +1
              11 August 2016 00: 16
              PS I am waiting for an apology from you for rudeness.

              - Do not wait, because otherwise people like you do not understand. Provocative attacks began precisely from your side: "Would you like to introduce yourself as your full name?" - you perfectly understand that on the general Internet resources there are no people who seem to be real names (and maybe you also have the keys to the apartment where the money is?). The fact that the opponent, to whom the appeal was originally given, did not answer you - apparently the person was busy, but it is your given statement that gives you a troll - you, thoughtless trolls, love to crush your opponents with baseless and unsubstantiated attacks and accusations - try your dish on taste!!!
            2. +2
              11 August 2016 00: 28
              And now, regarding the non-repetition of the mistakes of the USSR in feeding countries that are disloyal and less loyal to us - what kind of feeding can be in this case ??? the team for war games arrived from overseas and we were provided with equipment for the performance - everything, the budget of the Russian Federation collapsed (((- don’t tell my hoofs: the equipment is provided to many participants and, in this context, the ratio of expenses to establishing more or less normal / friendly relations - it has very good performance !!! The same Venezuela, later on, being familiar with our technology - it will be purchased from us - here you have a real profit !!!
              1. -1
                11 August 2016 06: 39
                Quote: Waroc
                And now, regarding the non-repetition of the mistakes of the USSR in feeding countries that are disloyal and less loyal to us - what kind of feeding can be in this case ??? war games team arrives from overseas

                It is about feeding, the visit of the Venezuelan team to the games just fell into place. Or do you really think that countries like Venezuela and, say, Zimbabwe (yes, there is such a team) will be our faithful allies and will REALLY purchase weapons from us for real money?
            3. 0
              11 August 2016 00: 59
              Further - your statement "Once again - we need to learn how to choose allies (at least in the beginning, at least keep China, Kazakhstan and Brazil among them)."

              And the navel will not freeze trying to make allies faithful for centuries - China and Brazil. For reference: China - a population of more than 1,3 billion (terrible scary), in terms of purchasing power per capita - ahead of the United States; Brazil - a population of about 204 million (smaller than China - is already not bad), ranks 7th in GDP by the end of 2015. And you want to get these countries (Kazakhstan in a slightly different situation) into loyal and unshakable allies - wake up, they are really parallel for us, and we will spend hundreds of times more on these small presents for those countries than the same Venezuela (population - 28 million man) with all its giblets. China and Brazil - the United States is much closer and closer than us: China, being a world factory, has the main consumer in the person of the Amers and the EU - we can’t keep up with their level of consumption of Chinese goods, and even China is large for linking it to us (here it wouldn’t work out the other way round - an example of China’s quiet expansion into the Far East). Brazil — located across the ocean from us, is the largest producer country of agricultural products in South America — we can’t eat so much — the conclusion: the United States, as a consumer of their goods, is dearer and closer to them. And no matter how we try in these two cases to us not to tie them to ourselves (seriously and for a long time - with a multi-year guarantee). These countries are quite capable of pursuing their own independent (including from us, and more independent from us than from the USA) policies.

              So, it is the countries that you cited as an example that are the least priority for binding them to us !!!))) For it is necessary to compare your desires with your capabilities! We can and try to have partnership - friendships with them, but it is they who can throw us faster and easier than smaller countries, because neither China nor Brazil have such strong and dependent on us relations with us.

              Learn to think, and not stupidly declare excerpts from pro-Western and anti-Russian liberal-democratic manuals, my friend! On this resource, such clumsy work will not work - and you will not get your 30 pieces of silver, even your narrow-minded employers will not pay for such a slapdash work (perhaps you have one employer - your personal "black master")!
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                11 August 2016 06: 45
                Quote: Waroc
                And the navel will not freeze trying to make allies faithful for centuries - China and Brazil.


                Quote: Waroc
                And you want to get these countries (Kazakhstan is a slightly different situation) into faithful and unshakable allies - wake up, they are really parallel to us
                I say that Russia over the past couple of years is rapidly losing even Belarus - its most loyal and closest ally. Relations with Kazakhstan have appeared. Where to go further? We need to save those who are, and try to build relationships with other normal ones before climbing into the other hemisphere.

                Indeed, banal bribery will not pass with large, economically developed states; here we must subtly build a line of relations. But it is difficult, why communicate with Brazil, Argentina or Chile, when you can trite to buy with offal rogues like Cuba and Venezuela. We, as usual, went along a simple but wrong path ...
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                12 August 2016 00: 14
                in terms of purchasing power per capita - ahead of the United States;
                Where is it read?
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  16. +13
    10 August 2016 10: 57
    Venezuelans are our guys!
    For who else has come with his booze and is not shy about it?
    Cheerful guys ...
    I think our mentality is very similar.
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      10 August 2016 16: 50
      It just made me terribly happy: they thought, took care, and said: “What if there’s not?” Well done !!!! They didn’t expect to be free!
    2. -1
      10 August 2016 18: 13
      Quote: Angry Beaver
      For who else has come with his booze and is not shy about it?

      Well, for example, I always always went with my booze, because our cognacs and vodkas practically have no competitors abroad.

      Quote: Angry Beaver
      I think our mentality is very similar.
      No, not similar. The Cubans and Venezuelans have a very different mentality from the Russians (apparently in connection with a different ethnic origin).

      By the way, they drink more than ours, so I laugh when someone calls the Russians the most drinking nation in the world.

      And many people living abroad can tell you that the way of thinking of the average Russian is very similar, oddly enough, to the average white American. Not a resident of large cities, nor a financier, but a simple white hard worker. Negros and Latinos, for the most part, are very different from our style of behavior, communication and mentality. You just have to live among them to understand this. Although the Latinos are also different - for example, Argentines are not Venezuelans at all and certainly not Mexicans.
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        10 August 2016 20: 27
        Here is combing. Rubs on the cold. Already enviable. I would also like to understand the alignment of mentality. Please, deceive me, deer, to your country a deer.
  17. +2
    10 August 2016 19: 02
    Quote: alexej123
    And why on the emblem "liqueurNo", with the letter N written?

    and with what should be?
    spelling rules just changed ... was liquor .. became liquor ...
    until 1923 the word candy was also written (accent on "a") as a candy and this was considered correct
  18. +2
    10 August 2016 21: 22
    Nice to see real men and true friends, welcome comrades!
  19. +2
    10 August 2016 22: 14
    I liked that part of the video where overcoming obstacles was shown. Our at KAMAZ is handsome! Everything went well.
    The Chinese in his truck also went great along the obstacle course. Strong opponent.
  20. +1
    12 August 2016 15: 42
    Venezuelans, Venezuelans are the last redskins that Europeans did not kill the grief of the whole world.
    1. -1
      12 August 2016 15: 52
      whose redskins did not kill the misery of the whole world Europeans.
      There are five percent of red blood there, they are the descendants of just the same Europeans, as well as black slaves, Chinese coolies, and it is still unknown to anyone.

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