Why Putin and Trump win ...

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We are not aware that we live in a new political reality. Therefore, the USSR collapsed, and today the USA and the European Union begin to fall apart, and many observers note, according to the scenario of the USSR: the elites and Western countries still do not realize that not only the era of mass and post-industrial society has come, but also a new historical and political era.

Francis Fukuyama, a famous American philosopher, delighted by the fall of the USSR, proclaimed the “end of history” in his self-titled work, enthusiastically greeted by “exceptional and progressive” humanity. The "end of history" allegedly brought the victory of the liberal-democratic ideology over the communist on a global scale. Now we can say that Fukuyama, or liberal-democratic thought in his person, has substituted the West, the countries of the golden billion, in full!

It turned out to be exactly the opposite: world history did not die at all, but it came to life after the hibernation of the Cold War, while world ideologies, including the liberal ones, really died on a global scale. And the policy of "multiculturalism" has become their tombstone! On the other hand, the death of ideologies results in the death of their political emanations - political parties.

The death of political parties in their classical sense, with the original ideology and party membership of like-minded people, as they formed by the beginning of the twentieth century, is already a generally recognized fact. It has become commonplace with most Western analysts: today, they put "party machines", that is, apparatus from functionaries for elections, party activists and electorate mobilized by them, to replace former parties. Party membership has become symbolic, and a matter of tradition, rather meaningless, which is especially clearly manifested in America today, the phenomenon of Donald Trump.

The death of political parties is an obvious consequence of the death of ideologies. Although this connection is blatantly not noticed by the media in favor, for ideological or marasmic reasons, the process of the withering away of classic parties goes all over the world, from the USSR-Russia to Europe and America. Today, ahead of the entire planet, for obvious reasons, America.

In the US, 40 formally operates nationwide parties, but the presidential race is always completed by two well-known systemic ones, which are difficult to distinguish from each other, like thimbles in the hands of a street cheater. Today the moment of truth in the person of Donald Trump has come for them, and it turned out that the division into democrats and republicans is a fiction, they themselves were divided in relation to Donald Trump!

No, in principle, it is possible to arrange a three-party performance, but it will be more expensive, and the ruling class will minimize the costs to a two-party system all over the world. This is a global trend - cost optimization.

The death of ideologies inevitably led to the commercialization of political life. The classical commercial organization of the political process, primarily in the United States, has replaced the classic party organization. MLM network trading companies, as is known, first appeared in the USA, and the principle of their organization gradually spread to the political life of the country. A network company can, after all, sell any product, including a “political product” ...

Leading political parties in the United States inevitably took the form of networked political companies, for “selling” a “political product” to society - a candidate for the Senate, the House of Representatives, or for the country's presidency - it does not matter. Barack Obama was elected to the presidency completely on the network technology, from Chicago obscurity to the presidency! The relative success of our Navalny at the Moscow elections was explained by a number of our observers by the use of the latest American election technologies, adding that they are “networked”, but what stands behind this is left behind the brackets. We will try to uncover them.

We will not consider here the dirty side of politics, although there is always such a thing, take a new political, de-ideologized and commercialized reality ideally. In order to understand how a network company works, it is desirable to work on it myself, in this sense, I was lucky one day, so I recommend it. And I will share my memories ...

Alpha and omega of any network company is its “product”, it is always presented as the highest quality and “unique” on the market. (Familiar word? America is a unique country!) People are stupid, according to the network definition, they don’t understand this, so the task of the networker is to enlighten people and encourage them to buy their “unique product”. The networker receives a percentage of sales, so his brazen confidence and perseverance are endless - he makes money on - attention! - the uniqueness of your product!

Therefore, among the agitators that Obama, that Navalny always have “glass eyes,” when they appeal to reason, this feature of Moscow political scientists noted in the “Navalny sect”. And the light criticism of the “unique Navalny” caused almost rage! In fact, there is nothing strange in this: the protection of their “unique product” against the criticism of dissidents from network agitators is developed on long-term trainings.

There are many nuances connected with the pre-election legislation and the political process, but the principle of selling the network party machine of the “political product” to the society remains. Network agitators "sell" their "political product", a candidate for an elective office, replacing the word "sale" with campaigning.

Good network policy or bad, in principle, should not be discussed: this is a given! Older political parties are either dying out or are adopting a network image. Ideology and political programs become fictions - the voter cannot distinguish between them! They are still talking, according to tradition, but political scientists have long said: the voter today votes for the names, for the charismatic leader. There is a leader - there is a party, there is no leader - nothing will help! A leader is a “unique product” ...

The network party machine, retaining the old form, and brand signs, after the disappearance of ideology, filled it with completely different content. The success of a network party is determined by two factors.

1. The quality of its “political product,” that is, the leader (s) of the party, their “mind, honor and dignity,” is the charisma of today's newspeak. Ideological phrases are still used by them, however, they do not mean anything, they are changed if necessary, like gloves.

What does it mean? Take the "old Bolsheviks", they uncomplainingly went under arrest during the Stalinist repressions, because they believed that if the party was wrong about them, the communist ideology is correct and will take its own, so you cannot rebel against even your arrest. If it were not for this Bolshevik belief in communist ideology, the USSR would inevitably have drowned in the depths of the internal, already “red” civil strife, as far back as the 30s.

On the other hand, the collapse of the USSR became possible when the communist ideology ceased to be a “symbol of faith,” but today no one will fight for the “idea” in its pure form. (The Nazi-Bandera and Donbas militia opposing them is a different story, it is the result of internecine strife.)

But for the charismatic leader, many will go! Such a leader already today ensures the success of the network party in public opinion, attracts volunteers to the party's election work, even free of charge. But not for the idea, but for your name!

2.The network party structure, starting with its leader, party functionaries, media and agitators, is a matter of money, administrative and business resources, but first and foremost money.

Thus, a network party is a combination of a “political product” (leader) and money for its promotion to an elected state post. With approximately the same cash resources of the opponents, the network propaganda and media structures will compensate each other, and then the “political product” determines the election victory: who has a better, brighter party leader.

This new political reality has developed not only in the United States and Europe, but also in Russia, emerging in all countries that call themselves "democracies." This is modern democracy: a combination of a popular leader leading his electorate and money. Or even just money: after all, a popular leader can be bought, intimidated, or even killed, with the help, again, of money, of their owners. “Money is a fucked freedom,” says an American proverb. Therefore, there is a grain of truth in the fact that the United States is a concentration of democracy, because they are printing money to the world ...

In such a political situation, with a relatively fair fight, in the US presidential race, theoretically, Donald Trump should win, as a better, brighter and fresher "political product", and Hillary Clinton should lose, as the old, stale and tainted "political product". Since the funds of the parties are about the same.

In Russia, network technologies have penetrated all the leading parties relatively recently: not only the “Navalny party”, but also “United Russia” and other parties use network methods of working with the electorate, calling them a “mobilization campaign”. “United Russia” will use the “mobilization resource” more than others; its recent primaries are a purely networked American political element, very expensive. And not useless: indeed, local opinion leaders, that is, “sheepskins, worth further dressing,” are indeed revealed.

Russian President Vladimir Putin for a long time has a rating under 80%, this is a statistical expression of the quality of the highest "political product" of Russia. His authority is so high today that the political party he supports is doomed to victory. Putin has already spoken in favor of United Russia, since this party has become the “assembly point of the country”, and he himself is one of its founders. This means that United Russia will win the fall elections to the State Duma, the only question is: with what score?

By the way, all opposition parties in Russia are betting on “protest moods”, completely forgetting about their ideological tenets, or almost forgetting. The communists manage not to even see the name of their party, and talk about some kind of “renewed socialism”. This is a confirmation of the “death of ideologies,” although, in the absence of other network resources, it was ideological things that could help the opposition in terms of agitation and propaganda.

Why Putin and Trump win ...


Only on the “protest field”, owing to the network pre-election technologies, the lack of comparable resources and charismatic leaders, the opposition parties cannot show a good result. Society is always dissatisfied with power, parents - children, and children - parents, and this banality, if necessary, is easy to convey to the voter ...

For the story that came in the movement, it doesn’t matter: whether Donald Trump wins, that is, his election political machine, or an event that “changes the course of history”, such as the Kennedy incident, occurs; how will be formed in the future presidency of Vladimir Putin. The name of Trump in America, and Putin in Russia, is already linked to the final transition to a new political world order, when a charismatic leader becomes over the party, becomes more important than the party, he becomes the party himself.

On the other hand, if there is no charismatic political leader, then there is neither a party, nor stability, nor, ultimately, a country. Paradox: Trump's victory seems to be beneficial for Russia, however, if Clinton wins the election, the United States can begin to fall apart, by the way, Trump himself predicts this. The bipartisan political system of the United States is discredited by “trampism” in the eyes of the broad American masses, and Clinton is not a charismatic leader who can consolidate society.

... Such times have come, Putin - Trump!
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  1. +25
    August 9 2016
    "Last black (Obama laughing ) looked tiredly, hanged himself - and nobody was gone"(Ten Little Indians). am
    1. +1
      August 9 2016
      The amazing naivety of citizen Kamenev. Hilka is very unpopular in America. Any Republican candidate would defeat her. Therefore, the Clintons nominated their friend Trump's family as a fake Republican candidate. Trump was enriched during the Clinton reign, the day before the announcement of his candidacy, Trump spent with his friend Bill. And finally, Chelsea Clinton and Ivanka Trump are two closest friends. Trump was the main thing to win at the primaries of the Republican Party, now he will do everything to lose the general election. So this time the American election is as fiction as the Russian one, the winner is known in advance.
      1. +9
        August 9 2016
        An example of conspiracy delirium. And the fact that Trump brought down the two-party system and the country was in a state of television civil war is nonsense? It is not even Trump that is important, but the phenomenon of "trumpism," a public challenge to the "system," approximately the same as Boris Yeltsin did in the USSR. Trump is American Yeltsin! If you want to...

        But your ridiculous criticism says that something of the article is worth ...
      2. +2
        August 9 2016
        Excuse me, do you probably have fair choices?
        1. +5
          August 9 2016
          In contrast to America, neither the prime minister’s son nor the prime minister’s wife became our prime minister. Unlike Russia, the current prime minister and the ruling party are kidding every day with terrible force on central television channels and in most newspapers. And it's worth it)))
          1. -1
            August 9 2016
            Quote: Mifkada
            ... in most newspapers every day, the acting prime minister and the ruling party are kidding with terrible force. And it's worth it)))

            "Goat" worth a lot? wassat
            For these actions, certainly, a lot of mind is not needed. laughing
            Continue in the same spirit!
            Let me remind you that in the USSR, each new general secretary "wentat" the previous one.
            And where if not in the media to do this?
            So what do you repeat ...

            But you are "chosen", you cannot repeat yourself by definition wassat
      3. +11
        August 9 2016
        Quote: Mifkada
        So this time the American election is the same fiction as the Russian one, the winner is known in advance

        What a beauty, that is, from your Israelis, you know the situation in the United States and in Russia better than anyone else? It turns out that H. Clinton was expelled from the Democrats for some reason, since she is unpopular, and only for her the American elections (but only for the very first time) are now "fiction", along with the Russian ones, since the winner is known in advance. Apparently, you have 120% correct information that Putin is absolutely unpopular in Russia, so any elections where he wins is fiction)))
        1. -3
          August 9 2016
          Putin is very popular in Russia. It is difficult to be unpopular when criticism of the authorities and the president is prohibited in all media, but quite the opposite.
          1. +5
            August 9 2016
            Quote: Mifkada
            Putin is very popular in Russia. It is difficult to be unpopular when criticism of the authorities and the president is prohibited in all media, but quite the opposite.

            Your statement is simply naive in nature.
            In Ukraine, support for everything that is connected with Russia and the Russian world may end in a blow to the head with a bat. A round-the-clock hollow of the brain goes around the box, but 33-35% of the population support this idea anyway.
            Israel’s criticism of Putin may not be visible, ridicule of Medvedev and uncomfortable questions to Peskov is not visible, but this is normal.
            But in essence, written in the article, I would not argue that Trump there destroyed something in the worldview of Americans.
            Hilary will be elected, because in the US there is no direct vote, and the elections are primarily a show
            1. +1
              August 10 2016
              APASUS

              Honestly, I did not like the article.

              I do not want to criticize painfully. Victor Kamenev, often delves deeper into the essence.

              The beginning of the article, the death of tog, of this. Not imbued. Network product is not imbued. For everything has long been sent to him in a long way. Not really.
          2. 0
            August 9 2016
            it is difficult to be unpopular when criticism of the authorities and the president is prohibited in all media, but quite the opposite.

            And on Echo of Moscow, for example, they still don’t know that criticism of the authorities and the president is prohibited
      4. +3
        August 9 2016
        Quote: Mifkada
        Khilka is very unpopular in America ... So this time the American election is as fiction as the Russian one, the winner is known in advance.
        Respected! you messed up something: unlike Khilka, in our country (and in America too!) The darkest one is very popular!
        Therefore, save your method "by contradiction" for Navalny and K *, because in the case of GDP it is simply inappropriate!
    2. +4
      August 9 2016
      Quote: Gormengast
      The last negro (Obama laughing) looked tiredly, hanged himself - and no one was "(Ten Little Indians).

      This comment should be translated and sent to Trump! laughing
      1. +4
        August 9 2016
        This comment should be translated and sent to Trump!


        That's the thing that can not be translated. laughing In the USA there are no blacks - there are African-Americans.
        And in the translated novel, they made little indians "little indians" laughing

        Then it turned out that killing the Indians was also a shame. laughing And they became some kind of neutral "soldiers"; who is there now, in the counting room - I do not know. am
  2. +17
    August 9 2016
    Victor, whoever wins, nothing will change for the better in the world, for election promises and a real political course are two completely different things.
    1. +23
      August 9 2016
      And I have another question on the topic? Russia, what does the US election care more about than its own parliamentary elections? I'm already fed up with both Trump and Clintonsha, both two! Moderators, give articles on elections in Russia! We not only elect the State Duma, but in many regions the local legislative bodies, does anyone know local deputies ??? Fellow citizens, let's be interested in their elections, vote soon !!! One hundred million votes - do not steal !!! Therefore - we are interested in Our elections, and go to vote !!!!
    2. +9
      August 9 2016
      Especially with those "members" of the Cabinet of Ministers headed by the "iPhone" and those "dumopuziks" .....
    3. +1
      August 9 2016
      The main thing is that the world should not change for the worse. And yet, personality means a lot ... yes, the political course did not immediately change, and Moscow did not immediately build ...
      1. +3
        August 9 2016
        And yet, a person means a lot ...

        You are right here. History proves that personality plays a huge role in it (history). Only the article is read with the thought that it was written by the "best manager" of network marketing. Sorry if offended.
  3. +4
    August 9 2016
    Only in the "protest field", due to network election technologies, the lack of comparable resources and charismatic leaders, the opposition parties can not show a good result. Society is always dissatisfied with power, parents with children, and children with parents, and this platitude, if necessary, is easy to convey to the voter ...


    And what’s better with us? Around United Russia and Medvedev .. Neither Zhirinovsky nor Zyuganov nor the other can not get to power .. eternal throws and disregard for the electors sad
    1. +7
      August 9 2016
      Do you think Zhirinovsky is feeling bad?
      To rant on a topic here would give me a steering and steering (respectively answer) two different things
    2. +3
      August 9 2016
      Quote: Coco

      And what’s better with us? Around United Russia and Medvedev.

      Oh stop talking, Zhirinovsky, Zyuganov, and what did they do specifically during these decades of their presence in power? Yes they speak beautifully, with chorism, carry away, but what has been done? Nothing. About us, as always, people are remembered only before the elections, before the external threat, and as workhorses, and will be used now. Nothing new, and as an example, and what I talked about yesterday, about the politics and business elite of both Russia and the United States (the fact that they act the same), this is the American primaries in Russia.
      “United Russia” uses the “mobilization resource” more than others, its recent primaries is a purely networked American political element, very expensive. And not useless: indeed, local leaders of public opinion are revealed, that is, "sheepskins worth further dressing."

      So, as Ilyich said, they say you are on the right path, only who is on the way?
    3. +3
      August 9 2016
      Zhirik and Zyuga and so with a noble gesheft. They don't need more power. And neither one nor the other desperately wants to be president. What for? Therefore, their parties are fictitious and tame lapdogs protecting the EP. And "Fair Russia" is generally zero without a wand.
      1. +1
        August 9 2016
        With regards to the Liberal Democratic Party, and a weather vane, a backup of the EP, as regards the Communist Party, you put a shadow on the fence.
        How to justify such a reasoning, but just what and how would the leader of the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia, and his henchmen, not get away with the screen, get away with it, but as for the Communist Party, how much time do they have on TV and radio?
        Here and ask yourself how, in your opinion, it’s "tame", it doesn’t seem to be the opposition, but why is it that they don’t give a voice in the media, TV and radio?
        SR .. well, there’s nothing to even say, the yellow symbolism of the partake says itself, a synonym for yellow what?
        1. +3
          August 9 2016
          Quote: The Bloodthirster
          They are afraid, therefore they do not give.

          They’re not afraid of the Communist Party, they’re afraid of ideas.
          About "CP". The newspaper fell into the hands of the elections. S. Mironov is frankly glad that defectors from the "Communist Party of the Russian Federation", "LDPR", and even "United Russia" have appeared in his party. What can I say.
          1. +2
            August 9 2016
            Yes, that’s exactly how it is, but at the present stage the Communist Party’s father-in-law is the spokesman for the Idea.
            Numerous dwarf batches of the Komtolka are more likely to interfere. What helps, that's bad.
            And the trickery of the "communists of russia" type is clearly an attempt to deflect some of the votes by means of electoral technologies.
            The party of big capital, the nouveau riche of Yer and its spoilers of the LDPR and SR, and the party expressing the vital interests of the majority-Communist Party.
            It is a pity that many do not understand this.
            1. +1
              August 9 2016
              Quote: The Bloodthirster
              spokesman for ideas at this stage father in law KPRF.

              "Well, you fucking give!" (C)
              I apologize for the question: And who is married to someone ... the Communist Party !?
              And who is her TEST?
              Really ...
              Already scary to think !!!
              1. -1
                August 9 2016
                Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                I apologize for the question: And who is married to someone ... the Communist Party !?

                The question is certainly not tactful. But you won’t hide the truth. She’s not married, where she’s modern, she’s just a CONTENT of capital.
              2. +3
                August 9 2016
                Dear Boa, do not hypnotize.))))
        2. +5
          August 9 2016
          The Communist Party has shown its complete worthlessness as an opposition, when for two consecutive terms having a CONSTITUTIONAL majority in the Duma has done absolutely nothing. Yes, Zyuganov then could not just what ordinary laws you want to push, he could change the Constitution, but instead talk and chatter.
          1. +4
            August 9 2016
            Why lie?
            Never in the Communist Party, in any Duma, has there been a QUALIFIED majority if you, for some reason, do not understand this term, then why all the other sweeping and worthless accusations?
            1. 0
              August 9 2016
              Quote: The Bloodthirster
              Why lie?
              Never in the Communist Party, in any Duma, has there been a QUALIFIED majority if you, for some reason, do not understand this term, then why all the other sweeping and worthless accusations?

              To hold a referendum, a qualified majority is not needed, even a simple majority and that is not always necessary ...
              Read the Constitution, finally ...
              1. +2
                August 9 2016
                Read the laws, there clearly through the efforts of the EP is prescribed a vegetable for you, not a referendum.
            2. -1
              August 9 2016
              What are you clinging to the Communist Party?
              This party has already survived a dozen splits and mass departures of activists. And there’s more than one split before her, while Zyuganov is at the head. And the big question is whether the Communist Party can survive after Zyuganov ...
              1. +2
                August 9 2016
                Cling to EP, it will help you.
          2. 0
            August 9 2016
            Quote: mitya24
            The Communist Party has shown its complete worthlessness as an opposition, when for two consecutive terms having a CONSTITUTIONAL majority in the Duma has done absolutely nothing. Yes, Zyuganov then could not just what ordinary laws you want to push, he could change the Constitution, but instead talk and chatter.

            By the way, the USSR is directly responsible for the collapse of the USSR, including the Communist Party: for the separatist Declaration on the sovereignty of the RSFSR, the USSR voted for the most part, and although the Belovezhsky conspiracy did not support it, it didn’t even resist it, mostly only in words but it could even, and impeachment even to the EBNu, even to Mechneny, if not through parliament, then through the referendum necessary for this to organize, not just one, but how many are needed, etc., etc. .... Always someone interfered with them and every time something was missing, each time the Communist Party and the ruling elite have another water-like truce ...
            The Communist Party’s ideology is wonderful, only the party has some kind of toothless leadership, and the party practically does not develop the theory of communism, all the proposals are mainly from the past, there is neither new Capital, nor new Development of capitalism in Russia, nor what ...
            A party turned into the past does not have a great future ...
            As a result, people do not believe in the ability of this party and its leader to turn from a systemic opposition into a party capable of leading the Great Power adequately to today's external and internal challenges ...
            1. 0
              August 9 2016
              Yes? Am for this very collapse, all dem liberals and other personalities are not responsible, in 90 they scream so vehemently that they say we’ll throw them off, we’ll heal ... Well, now when it turns out we’ll heal not EVERYONE, EVERYONE, AS AN EXAMPLE, SAID POPULAR FORGOTTEN BUT GUILTY ONLY the Communist Party, WOW LOGIC ..
      2. +1
        August 9 2016
        Quote: Volzhanin
        Zhirik and Zyuga and so with a noble gesheft

        Well, and you yourself, of course, "for no one", just really like to criticize?
      3. +1
        August 9 2016
        Zhirnovsky or Zyuganov in power? Yes, they are from her, as if from a plague!
        Everything is fine with them now, everyone is fed and tamed.
        In general, this hypothetical version reminded me of the phrase of a fat cat from the cartoon: "We were not in Tahiti. We are fed well here too ..."
        1. +1
          August 9 2016
          What a misconception .. who in 1998 brought the country out of peak?
          But there was very little left, until the complete disintegration of the country ... a short memory?
  4. +1
    August 9 2016
    Let's not guess who will win at meritosia. The time will come, and we will have the opportunity to discuss.
  5. +5
    August 9 2016
    Anyway, there will not be a sharp turn in US policy, this is not a matter of one presidential term, everything is so neglected there. Even on the example of non-brothers, it is clear that the zombie does not take place at once, and the "withdrawal" from it will take years, if not decades. The fact that Trump is "the hell out of the snuffbox" is understandable, but what will happen after the elections is anyone's guess. Humanly, he is still prettier than the Clintons, but this is for now. Obama also began a new term with an "overload" of relations with Russia, which ultimately happened.
    1. 0
      August 9 2016
      Totally agree with you. On my own I will add that to me these games of Trump-Clinton resemble Amer’s game of a good and bad cop.
  6. +5
    August 9 2016
    "United Russia" uses the "mobilization resource" more than others,

    Here is Petka a typo; not mobilization, but administrative.
    From folk folklore. laughing laughing laughing
    1. -1
      August 9 2016
      Not a typo, a populist: there are administrative and mobilization resources, learn equipment, train in a network company well, help to understand something from the inside ...
  7. +4
    August 9 2016
    Communists manage not to see even the name of their party... Communists, now just a brand .. and under it everyone can politicize ..
    1. +1
      August 9 2016
      You are right, as usual, agree ...
    2. +3
      August 9 2016
      Quote: parusnik
      The Communists manage not to even see the name of their party ... The Communists, now they are just a brand ... and anyone can politicize under it ..

      YOU, of course, mean the Communist Party? The Communist Party of the Russian Federation "forgot" that it is necessary to "go to the masses" by deed, by promoting its ideas and programs. Why "forgot" is another question. But, according to the voting in the Duma, one can understand its difference from other "parties". Therefore, I would rather vote for them.
      In principle, I agree with the article.
      1. +3
        August 9 2016
        Quote: There was a mammoth
        Therefore, I will rather vote for them.

        Oh well...
        1. +2
          August 9 2016
          Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
          Oh well...

          Do you suggest ignoring the election?
        2. +1
          August 9 2016
          Dear Boa constrictor, do not you think that those who ignore these very choices act like that Indian from a joke, with a mop on his forehead, and he will attack again ..
          And then those who did not go, do not walk and do not want to do this, cry out in tyrnet, oh, everything is rotten, everything is lost.
          I read somewhere, the best voter is the one who doesn’t go to the polls, choose the worst candidate, and then he screams at the top of his neck, again deceived ..
  8. +1
    August 9 2016
    Quote: Coco
    Only in the "protest field", due to network election technologies, the lack of comparable resources and charismatic leaders, the opposition parties can not show a good result. Society is always dissatisfied with power, parents with children, and children with parents, and this platitude, if necessary, is easy to convey to the voter ...


    And what’s better with us? Around United Russia and Medvedev .. Neither Zhirinovsky nor Zyuganov nor the other can not get to power .. eternal throws and disregard for the electors sad

    Look positively, you and the Maidan circus performers, "swamp", zafukali, and this is the first sign of a healthier society. Do not rush to the next elections, or the United Russia will change qualitatively, or the ONF and the like will go into politics. Power attracts people and this is unchanged. The CPSU was once considered eternal and indestructible, just like the United Russia is now. hi
  9. +12
    August 9 2016
    They are trying to constantly distract the attention of the Russian people from problems in the economy with all sorts of shows.
    Now the most striking of them - the independent and state elections.
    When political scientists deem it necessary to "change the records", they will begin to brainwash the average person with the autumn elections in Russia. A company has already gone about "rehabilitation" of Medvedev's mental abilities. The fact that in a few days 250 thousand people asked him to "leave" is not taken seriously. But in vain. People give their signatures not against Medvedev specifically, but against the ruling system.
    1. +4
      August 9 2016
      Quote: SarS
      A company has already gone about "rehabilitation" of Medvedev's mental abilities. The fact that in a few days 250 thousand people asked him to "leave" is not taken seriously.

      You will not believe! He is trying so hard !!!
  10. +5
    August 9 2016
    Whether Tram wins or Clinton wins is absolutely irrelevant. The President of the United States is an almost nominal figure with expanded lobbying opportunities for an extremely limited list of purely American requests. Mostly economic. Everything else is under the tight control of financial groups and TNCs. Including foreign policy. So it is not necessary to expect improvement in Russian-American relations before the advent of the Great American Socialist Revolution ... request
    1. +2
      August 9 2016
      But naive people seriously believe that in Western countries there is democracy.
      In Western countries, totalitarian systems have been established, and whoever comes to power through elections will not be allowed to radically change anything. In the West, no reformers are needed, no personality is needed.
      1. 0
        August 9 2016
        Quote: tatra
        But naive people seriously believe that in Western countries there is democracy.
        In Western countries, totalitarian systems have been established, and whoever comes to power through elections will not be allowed to radically change anything. In the West, no reformers are needed, no personality is needed.

        A real person is therefore a real person, because she is able to win not because of, but in spite of ...
    2. +2
      August 9 2016
      Quote: Angry Guerrilla
      Whether Tram wins or Clinton wins is absolutely irrelevant. The US President is an almost nominal figure ... Everything ... is under the tight control of financial groups and TNCs.
  11. +1
    August 9 2016
    Of course, it is unlikely that Trump will somehow change US foreign policy. This is really not a one-time deal. And the owners of large businesses can strongly oppose. But if he sets a trend and expands Matrasia throughout his term, then it will be very difficult to stop and return to his previous course.
    Trump compares favorably with former presidents by the presence of capital. those. he is independent of other people's infusions. And, as I understand it, in this regard he is more independent than Obama, Clintons, Sanders.
    If we go into conspiracy theory, then the "isolationists" and "globalists" are fighting here. Each of them has its own truth and its own methods of keeping the US economy afloat.
    Let's see whose take)))
  12. +2
    August 9 2016
    If Putin is put in brackets, the choice is not rich: EP has no charismatic leader or ideology; The Communist Party - there is an ideology, but there is no charismatic leader; The LDPR has a charismatic leader, but there is no ideology. And where to go to the poor voter?
    1. 0
      August 9 2016
      Quote: sedan
      If Putin is put in brackets, the choice is not rich: EP has no charismatic leader or ideology; The Communist Party - there is an ideology, but there is no charismatic leader; The LDPR has a charismatic leader, but there is no ideology. And where to go to the poor voter?

      Good analysis ...
  13. 0
    August 9 2016
    Election in the USA is just like changing a wrapper with a printed new expiration date for a consumer on an expired product, moreover, already rotten.
  14. 0
    August 9 2016
    Quote: Mifkada
    So this time the American election is as fiction as the Russian one, the winner is known in advance.

    And what about Israel? Is everything fair with the election?
    And then, as usual in the course of affairs, he poured mud over dirt, but not a word to himself.
  15. +1
    August 9 2016
    This means that "United Russia" will win the fall elections to the State Duma, the only question: with what account?

    In principle, this means one thing: EP - they will draw votes, even if she gets only 1%. And this statement sounds like a mantra - yes you vote at least for someone, and EP will always be ahead.
    And Trump ... Let's like in the exam:
    Who is Donald Trump for you?
    1. Friend of the Russian Federation
    2. The enemy of the Russian Federation.
    3. An alien from Alpha Centauri.
    1. 0
      August 9 2016
      Quote: EvgNik
      Who is Donald Trump for you?
      1. Friend of the Russian Federation
      2. The enemy of the Russian Federation.
      3. An alien from Alpha Centauri.

      answer 2 - the enemy of the Russian Federation. With him, the aggressive policy of the United States will clearly not change. Trump said that "Donald Cook" was supposed to shoot down the Su-24 over the Baltic States - is this such a new kind of friendship?
  16. +1
    August 9 2016
    I don’t understand why the Russian media are persistently driving in - That’s where TRUMP will come and put things in order ... (Trump, come and put that order in order ..)
    This option is not better than Yellowstone. Asteroid, and others, such as debt.
    The point is to wait for the weather by the sea - or is it an agreement that all they can is to wait for Trump to come.
    Politics that Obama that Hillary that Trump will not change.
    And the article is just for VO - the EP party has so many fans of their work here that there is very little potential electorate.
    Some are right - the show is mast go he. Ukraine, Syria, US Elections, Medvedev said, the Olympics and others .. what else does the average person need?
  17. +1
    August 9 2016
    Therefore, the Soviet Union collapsed, and today the United States and the European Union begin to fall apart, and many observers note, according to the scenario of the USSR: the elites and Western countries still do not realize that not only the era of mass and post-industrial society has come, but also a new historical and political era.

    Well, how much can you write these stories? Well, the USA will not fall apart in any way, although they promise us their collapse every day, even from Soviet times?
    As for the Western elites - is it probably that Western politicians keep money in Russian banks in billions of Russian rubles, send their children to study and equip their life in Russia? Is it Western politicians who invest money in the Russian economy, and their pensioners are told "there is no money, but you are holding on, are you in a good mood"?
    Author, you don’t. You did not convince me with your article, you did not work out the money that you are paid for your agitation tongue
  18. +1
    August 9 2016
    It seems that after the disappearance of the Soviet Union, not only we became fucking, but the rest of the world. And, it seems, this rest of the world is becoming more bullshit than us. What can not but rejoice - so you need it, creatures.
  19. +1
    August 10 2016
    Why are we all wondering who will be president in America? firstly, there is no difference for us, and secondly, their president has already been elected. Selected by the American ruling clans. After the "election" we will be told his name, that's all.

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