Russian Defense Ministry plans to create channels of communication with the Turkish military

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The Russian Defense Ministry plans to offer Turkey to create communication channels between the military of the two countries that will help to avoid incidents like the downed Su-24, according to News.



“The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation has already prepared a package of proposals for the Turkish side, including the creation of channels for the exchange of information between the military of the two countries, as well as protocols on actions in the air,”
told the newspaper a military source.

According to him, “there is even a reminder for pilots on how to act in a dangerous situation in order to avoid a repetition of last year’s tragedy.”

Agreements to prevent incidents in the skies over the UAR have already been reached by the Russian side with the military of the United States and Israel.

The meeting of the presidents of the Russian Federation and Turkey will be held 9 August in St. Petersburg.
  • Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation
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  1. 0
    August 8 2016
    Agreements to prevent incidents in the skies over the UAR have already been reached by the Russian side with the military of the United States and Israel.
    Well, earlier Turkey did not take into account something.
    1. +4
      August 8 2016
      Russian Defense Ministry plans to create channels of communication with the Turkish military


      it would be better if the channels for flying planes and calibers did ...
      1. +2
        August 8 2016
        Do not worry, you are so, there is not only "echelons" (an aviation term), but even "rails" are laid, be sure.
    2. +3
      August 8 2016
      Quote: GYGOLA
      Well, earlier Turkey did not take into account something.

      It seems to me that no one was counting on such a development of the situation. In fact, there was a pure provocation when our plane or an act of intimidation was shot down.
      1. 0
        August 8 2016
        What about the half-insane theory that the cap that shot down our Dryer was an agent of the States? what
        He was ordered: see - shoot. And we will cover you, we will promote money and in the service.
        After that Erdogash rushed to NATO, asking "What the hell is going on?" and began to pull the rubber. He knew that if he said that he did not control the army, then the coup attempt would be 100% (well, you must agree that he could not know AT ALL about the impending boom: there are more informers in the Armed Forces than rats in the galley).
        But it is, thoughts are rumored. To the end, no theory fits in to the end.
        1. 0
          August 8 2016
          Quote: Lord_Bran
          What about the half-insane theory that the cap that shot down our Dryer was an agent of the States?

          In what sense is "cap"? Baba at the helm, or what?
    3. +4
      August 8 2016
      Unfortunately, very often, in order for something to move from a dead point in the geopolytic games of states, an ordinary human life is needed ...
      1. 0
        August 8 2016
        Quote: Finches
        Unfortunately, very often, in order for something to move from a dead point in the geopolytic games of states, an ordinary human life is needed ..

        It happens in life, a strong friendship is established after, through stupidity, cleansing each other's faces! smile
        1. Old
          +1
          August 8 2016
          It's only between people. Betrayal always takes place at the interstate level. Politics. In this particular case, INTERESTS SIMPLY MATCHED. Erdogan is looking for support. And ours troll "partners". And it is unlikely that ours will rush to immediately build a pipe and a nuclear power plant. First, there will be a complete sweep of the north of Syria from the Barmaley.
        2. +3
          August 8 2016
          Quote: Bayonet
          It happens in life, a strong friendship is established after, through stupidity, cleansing each other's faces!

          If you are talking about a downed Su-24, then do not pull the owl onto the globe! We cleaned the face not to each other, but only to us! And treacherously, from around the corner. Befriend after this ... Sorry!
          This is a sign of weakness or some very tricky plan!
          I wouldn’t forgive this. But Putin has his own head, his own plans.
          1. +1
            August 8 2016
            Quote: Stas157
            Quote: Bayonet
            It happens in life, a strong friendship is established after, through stupidity, cleansing each other's faces!

            If you are talking about a downed Su-24, then do not pull the owl onto the globe! We cleaned the face not to each other, but only to us! And treacherously, from around the corner. Befriend after this ... Sorry!
            This is a sign of weakness or some very tricky plan!
            I wouldn’t forgive this. But Putin has his own head, his own plans.

            Let me complement your words. The only channel with the Turks after this is the S-400
            1. 0
              August 9 2016
              Quote: Douel
              The only channel with the Turks after this is the S-400

              Forever forever? And with everyone else, from the Baltic to the Pacific?
          2. 0
            August 9 2016
            Quote: Stas157
            This is a sign of weakness or some very tricky plan!

            This is politics. Throughout history, European states fought among themselves, and today, as you see, they have united. Of course there is friction, but they have come together. smile
            Quote: Stas157
            I wouldn’t forgive this.

            It’s not necessary to forget, but normal relationships are vital. Otherwise, sit alone behind the fence and click your teeth with hatred. request
            Quote: Stas157
            But Putin has his own head, his own plans.

            But this is true! hi
        3. 0
          August 9 2016
          Here somehow unilaterally it turned out
    4. +3
      August 8 2016
      Quote: GYGOLA
      Well, earlier Turkey did not take into account something.

      You might think that it was a Turkish pilot who independently decided to shoot down our Su-24, but you’ll think of it.
      The authoritative site Haber Diyarbakır reports that US President Barack Obama gave the green light to the Turkish Air Force, which shot down the Russian Su-24. This was reported by sources in the Turkish government

      Take the time to read http://yvision.kz/post/664015
      Who and how helped bring down the SU-24?
      1. 0
        August 9 2016
        Quote: APASUS
        Take the time to read //yvision.kz/post/664015

        "The authoritative site Haber Diyarbakır reports," - who is it authoritative? Such "authoritative", on every corner!
    5. aba
      0
      August 9 2016
      Well, earlier Turkey did not take into account something.

      Yes, just at that time Erdogan was an accomplice of terrorists, as we were told from every pole. And now they have stopped broadcasting about it, which means that they have come to their senses and have become our "friend".
      1. 0
        August 9 2016
        Precisely noticed
  2. +6
    August 8 2016
    Turks-Rus bhai-bhai? Friends forever? Everything changes quickly here, but I don’t know how to repaint so quickly. Either red or white. As the Soviet government taught. And in general, I remember, there was a similar system at the time of the incident, only the Turks did not deign to use it. And then what is the point of restoring this system?
    1. +1
      August 8 2016
      Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
      Turks-Rus bhai-bhai? Friends forever? Everything changes quickly here, but I don’t know how to repaint so quickly. Either red or white. As the Soviet government taught. And in general, I remember, there was a similar system at the time of the incident, only the Turks did not deign to use it. And then what is the point of restoring this system?

      For some reason it didn’t go as the sultan planned, they leaked it. And now Erdogan is trying not to smear his face in shit.
    2. +4
      August 8 2016
      It is necessary to think that the geopolitical (international) situation is changing, almost by the minute. And you, judging by your statement, did not make responsible decisions that affect the fate of the people around you. Not so simple. This is not sarcasm.
    3. +4
      August 8 2016
      The Soviet government also did not pursue the same policy. As in a joke - hesitated along with the party line. lol Here we are helping to create the state of Israel, but now it is our enemy. Here we are helping communist China, but now we are fighting in Damansky. There are no constant friends and constant enemies - there are only permanent interests.
      Turkey controls the straits through which, for example, our export of grain and other cx products goes, without which our Black Sea Fleet does not leave the Black Sea, through which the Syrian Express goes. Thc Turkey we need and is important. This does not mean that we and the Turks will sharply love each other, but only that we will cooperate and our politicians will smile at cameras together. If at the same time it will be possible to earn money for the country and to ensure that we are not spoiled, it will be gorgeous in general.
  3. +1
    August 8 2016
    According to him, “there is even a reminder for pilots on how to act in a dangerous situation in order to avoid a repetition of last year’s tragedy.”


    Incidents will still be, at the same time, compensation for incidents must be registered. Especially if the incidents are related to the deaths of military personnel.
    1. vv3
      0
      August 8 2016
      We must brazenly pursue our interests, because the goal is not to put up with the Turks, but to achieve our goals. Close the corridor on the border with Turkey, deprive militants of support, crush Europe with friendship with Erdogan, they’ll go to the sea all the same, they will buy fruit ... It’s stupid to lose your opportunities for no reason ... But be careful if you are vigilant - Asia. ...
      1. 0
        August 8 2016
        Quote: vv3
        We must brazenly pursue our interests,

        What does it mean - brazenly? smile Maybe - persistently, consistently?
        Dictionary of Russian synonyms.
        Insolent - cynic, shameless; impudent (razg.); okhnik, shamer, shameless eyes (simple); shamer (obsolete); Basurman, Basurmanin (outdated. simple.) request
  4. 0
    August 8 2016
    Yes, all rumors about possible agreements have already been gathered here. Link, sorry for that, but there is a lot written, I do not want to copy-paste. https://cont.ws/post/339527
  5. +5
    August 8 2016
    Turks cannot be trusted. The political situation will change, and they will immediately substitute .... history is a confirmation of this.
  6. +3
    August 8 2016
    Anyway, I don’t believe the Turks!
    1. +1
      August 8 2016
      If they believed, then one promise would have been enough, not a constant connection.
    2. +4
      August 8 2016
      It is strange to read from a person with such a nickname "The Exorcist of Liberoids". You consider yourself a liberal Gorbachev, I believe, I do not believe. Normal politicians conclude WRITTEN AGREEMENTS ON PAPER MEDIA. Unlike the bald bear. The fact that he was "thrown" is his personal problem, but that thanks to him they "thrown" RUSSIA, IT IS JUST DISGUSTING. WHAT VV IS TRYING TO FIX NOW. PUTIN. May God grant him health.
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    4. +3
      August 8 2016
      Quote: Exorcist Liberoids
      Anyway, I don’t believe the Turks!
  7. +1
    August 8 2016
    Agreements to prevent incidents in the skies over the ATS have already been reached by the Russian side with US and Israeli military

    At least for today, arrangements are in place and make it possible to avoid incidents that may arise for various reasons. The main thing is that the pilots were safe, and of course the equipment did not suffer.
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  9. +1
    August 8 2016
    Quote: Amurets
    It seems to me that no one was counting on such a development of the situation. In fact, there was a pure provocation when our plane or an act of intimidation was shot down.

    The provocation was from the USA, Turkey is only a performer here. Apparently the USA did not give what they promised. Let this be a science for everyone: you can never turn your back on Turkey - the knife is stuck without the slightest twinge of conscience.
  10. +1
    August 8 2016
    If the Turks were initially on the side of the fight against IS, then problems with small border crossings would not have arisen. As an ally, Turkey could also provide part of its airspace for the necessary maneuvers of our aircraft in the border areas. And so, the incident with our aircraft suggests that we were on different sides of the struggle. I would like to hope that now the situation will change.
  11. 0
    August 8 2016
    Somehow, everything is developing very quickly. Either the accumulation of certain changes has occurred, or something else that creates a double bottom in what is happening. Strange, very strange.
  12. +1
    August 8 2016
    Everything is like in a song. Loves - does not love, spits - kisses, presses to heart - sends to hell. Politics, a delicate matter! And the opposite.
  13. 0
    August 8 2016
    Quote: Finches
    Unfortunately, it’s very often that something would move from a dead point in the geopolytic games of states, need an ordinary human life...
    I dare to say that if it were not for the mediocrity and stupidity of some of our general-marshals, then most of these senseless losses in human lives could have been avoided. Unfortunately, the General Staff continues to learn from its "mistakes," stubbornly repeating them. Yesterday we tried to sort out their problems here:

    https://topwar.ru/page,1,2,98926-pochemu-v-sirii-stali-chasche-sbivat-vertolety-

    vks.html
  14. +1
    August 8 2016
    to avoid repeating last year’s tragedy. ”

    It was a targeted shooting of the plane and the killing of pilots!
  15. 0
    August 8 2016
    Well, Turkey got rid of the Western hassle.
    And it seems like a normal, sane state ...
  16. +2
    August 8 2016
    "... The Russian Defense Ministry has already prepared a package of proposals for the Turkish side ..."
    NOT SUGGESTIONS, BUT ORDERS am am am am am

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