A chain of pre-escalation events in LDNR and the Republic of Crimea prepares us for a big war.

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In the photo 152-mm towed howitzer 2A65 "Msta-B" 10-th artillery brigade LNR


In early July, we prepared extensive material on the situation on the fronts of the yet unrecognized Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics. It was then that the pre-escalation turmoil on the line of demarcation between the territories controlled by Kiev, as well as New Russia, rushed along the increasing line. It all started with provocative mortar self-shelling by the formations of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the outskirts of Mariupol, accompanied by disturbing fire at the frontline settlements of the DPR in Azov region - Sakhanka and Cominternovo. The Ukrainian X-NUMX battery of D-122 howitzers, deployed in Vodyanom, opened fire on residential areas of the Comintern on July 30 in 10: 22, temporarily depriving the residents of the village of electricity and gas supply. In the first days of August, these "shootings" turned into real reconnaissance in force and artillery preparations of the junta's troops. The daily number of artillery and mortar shells fired at the territories of the republics increased from a few dozen to 00. This is the figure that was voiced by the DPR MO for 872 August 2.

During the last round of Minsk consultations on resolving the conflict in Donbass, the Ukrainian side completely abstracted from fulfilling any obligations to divert artillery systems and MLRS on key areas of the contact line, and in the evening on July 4, information appeared on the network referring to the Defense Intelligence of Ukraine about preparation of the Armed Forces of Novorossia for offensive operations or reconnaissance in the nearby territories of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the period from 5 to 8 in August. As for the most probable sections of the nomination of the DRG or the regular and assault units of the BCH, Kiev called the cities of Donetsk-Makeevskaya and Gorlovsko-Yenakiyev agglomerations, without mentioning anything newly for the new Azov ON. What is most interesting, even the approximate escalation dates of Kiev are indicated, which are summed up by the “intelligence of the Square” clearly under the start of the Olympics-2016. There is a "Saakashvili syndrome", which is increasingly manifested in the Ukrainian military departments.

The tendency to increase the shelling of the republics with the opening of the opening of the Olympics-2016 was also noted by many servicemen of the DPR army. At the same time, the arrivals of Ukrainian shells themselves (the militia and the population of the republics call them “pluses” or “incoming”) no longer occur in the “gray zone”, as it was in the spring, but in the residential quarters of cities. Kiev absolutely doesn't care about Minsk-2 for a long time.

In connection with what is happening, the plenipotentiary representative of the DPR at the Minsk talks Denis Pushilin, the commander of the operational command of the Donetsk Republic Eduard Basurin, as well as the head of the DPR Alexander Zakharchenko, almost simultaneously said about the possible resumption of large-scale hostilities. Even the main supporter of the “silence” regime and the peace settlement, Pushilin, this time, was very tough in favor of the Ukrainian side, noting that the attempt of the junta’s offensive was more likely to occur, and the LDNR would respond with a powerful counteroffensive. Zakharchenko backed up these words with a statement about the inevitable release of the occupied territories of the republics (Mariupol, Volnovakha, Krasnoarmeysk, etc.), as well as the complete exclusion of the development of the Minsk-3 format.

What did the Minsk-2 give to the civilian population and the LDNR army? The conflict was completely frozen at the tactical positional level: artillery and rifle battles in the Avdeevsky industrial zone, Zaitsevo and under Debaltseve, as well as regular nighttime attacks from the controlled Armed Forces of Ukraine Mariupol. The destruction of the residential infrastructure of Donetsk, Gorlovka, as well as settlements of Telmanovsky and Novoazovsky districts: hundreds and thousands of dead children, women, fathers of Donbass. The constant threat from the Ukrainian OTRK "Tochka-U", "Elbrus", as well as the MLRS "Uragan" and "Smerch", which in the current tactical situation, Ukrainian forces can reach almost any point of Novorossiya.

If the offensive took place back in September 2014, when, on the night of September 6, the punitive squadrons (volunteer battalions) of “Azov”, “Donbass” and “Dnepr” would quickly leave the unsecured Mariupol, and the drivers of the Gradov of the Armed Forces would rush into madness city ​​roads and parks, being completely ignorant of the tactics of the militia, now Mariupol would have been a “pearl” of the DPR for a long time, and the line of demarcation would either merge with the Crimean border, or go from Berdyansk to the border of the DPR with the Dnipropetrovsk region without giving artilla Rhee APU capabilities to reach Donetsk and Mariupol. But then it didn’t happen: “Minsk” stalled the entire progress of the August offensive, only the 85-kilometer march from Amvrosiyivka to Novoazovsk alone cost (protracted battles with “Azov”, “Right Sector” (forbidden organization in the Russian Federation), a breakthrough in Shyrokyne and Pishevik). Apparently, the victorious offensive will have to continue.

“THE PROVOCATION BASE” OF THE UNIVERSITY OF URBAN UNDER MARIUPOL IS COMING INTO MOTION AT THE SAME TIME WITH THE TERMS VOID IN KYIV

In the evening of August 5, a cannonade from large-caliber barreled artillery was heard from several suburbs of Mariupol, as well as Lebedinsky and Shyrokyne. The same front-line settlements of the DPR were under fire. But by the morning, as it happened the last days, the shelling did not stop. Ukrainian howitzers and mortars in Talakovka and Pavlopol joined the work, followed by an immediate artillery response from the Armed Forces of the DPR. In Mariupol, the transport communication through the post-bridge was blocked and the central walk-throughs of the Azovstal metallurgical plant were temporarily closed. According to eyewitnesses, the regiment "Azov" led in the vicinity of the plant video filming of a report about the beginning of hostilities. The personnel were quickly scattered around spontaneous firing points to give the effect of surprise, and then further accusing the militia of unilateral unleashing of hostilities. In other words, Kiev itself provoked an artillery duel and was waiting for a more compelling reason to launch an offensive operation.

In case the proper response from the BCH is not followed, the Ukrainian army deployed up to several dozen artifacts of armored vehicles near Mariupol, the target designation for which was reported by Ukrainian mortar crews. All in the best traditions of the junta. Through the central streets of the city again in full swing the transfer of drugs "Azov" to the position on the eastern outskirts.

NEW UKRAINIAN STRENGTHENING OF THE WESTERN MARIUPOL: A CITY AS A SHIELD AND SUPPORT TO THE DIVING UKRAINIAN TROOPS

Very important news continue to come from residents of the occupied Ukrainian volunteer units and other nationalist movements of Mariupol. In the course of active preparation for an offensive operation, the Ukrainian Armed Forces in a hurry are building a large fortified area in the village of Rybatskoye, which is 4 km from the Primorsky district of Mariupol. If we proceed from the tactics of defense of a large settlement, an additional fortified area should be built either between the villages of Kalinovka and Sartan, or north of the Illichivsk district of Mariupol. Here it is immediately obvious that the Ukrainian formations already have a plan for retreat from Mariupol, and the “opornik” in Fishermen’s and will cover this retreat. The village is located on the Belosaray Spit, due to which the entire coast of the Ordzhonikidze district of the city, up to the village of Sopino, falls into the fire impact zone of the artillery of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. All coastal streets and boulevards of this area automatically become targets for Ukrainian howitzers and self-propelled guns and turn from the once flowering green parks into "death trails". From here to Rybatsky approximately 17 — 17,5 km, which is precisely in the radii of Acacia, Gradov, and Hurricanes. And the following can happen: after knocking out the “Azov” and some parts of the Armed Forces of Ukraine from the Ordzhonikidze district, the post-bridge across the r. Kalmius will be blown up, and the BCH will be forced to hold him under "wild" shelling from Volodarsky and other western settlements, as well as to develop an offensive in the western direction, bypassing the city.

It also serves as the western outpost of the Armed Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to prevent the formation of a tactical “cauldron” around Mariupol, as Alexander Zakharchenko had already spoken about the advisability of such an attack, which was practiced by the armed forces of the republics with virtually every major Ukrainian city of Donbass. Fortunately, the Mariupolites and the whole republic, for a long time he will not last there and will be destroyed by the DPR’s land units closing the “boiler” from the north, as well as the Azov flotilla republics from the sea. Why did the junta choose this particular village? Firstly, thanks to the perfectly shot through the southern quarters of the city, and secondly, due to the developed transport hub. So, thanks to the village. Mangush to Berdyansk from Rybatskiy can be left on the E58 highway and along the embankment road. There are also roads to Zaporozhye and other settlements of neighboring regions, this helps to quickly deliver ammunition and plan a timely retreat.

It is well known that when it comes time to storm Mariupol, the best units of the Armed Forces of the DPR will take over, such as Sparta, Somalia, Vostok and Kalmius. “Azov” and “Pzam” with “Donbass” will have to be very hard here, since Mariupol is a city with a rectangular type of urban planning and developed residential and industrial areas. In such difficult conditions, the parties have equal chances in the tactics of conducting urban battles. VSN will be able to easily choose various configurations of maneuvers during the storming of the city, while Ukrainian formations have the ability to build numerous defensive tactics, but as we know from experience, even at the very beginning of the escalation (in August 2014 of the year), the DPR units already demonstrated an order of magnitude better skill with the enemy’s numerical superiority that we observed in Ilovaisk, Starobeshevo and Amvrosiyivka. So draw conclusions.

ANXIETY NEWS FROM THE NORTHERN FRONT AND ATTACKING ON THE PLOTNIKSKY - SECONDARY WAR APPROXIMATE FACTORS

All the facts now testify to the preparation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine not for local offensive operations, but for a general offensive along the entire front line. So, 2 of August, on the fake Internet site of the DPR, created by Poroshenkov's henchmen, published preparations for the advance of the DPR army in the Svetlodar bulge area. As we remember, it was here, on the Debaltsevskiy OH, that the APU lost the 2 platoon of the MBT T-64BV platoon, as well as more than a hundred servicemen at the time of the attempt to break through the Lozovoi and Logvinovsky fortified areas. The provocative message was even voiced by another Ukrainian "ace negotiator" in the contact group Yevhen Marchuk. Of course, nothing can be called such a statement, except for the next short and ridiculous "jamb" of the Ukrainian side. But nevertheless, it indicates that the Ukrainian Armed Forces continue to carry out a plan for the tactical cutting off of Donetsk-Makeevka and Gorlovsko-Enakievo agglomerations with the help of the Debaltsev interchange. How did they do it in February 2015 of the year, we remember well about the Debaltsevskiy boiler, now there can be even more losses, because in a year and a half the percentage of efficient units of equipment is no longer 60%, but more than 85-90%. An offensive in this direction will be arrested within a few days, but for the cessation of constant shelling, a counter-offensive will be required on Artyomovsky and Slavic ON.

On the Ukrainian side there is a constant transfer of new “Gradov”, howitzers and armored vehicles to Kramatorsk and Artyomovsk: over the past month, local residents of these cities have seen several similar train echelons, which, after unloading, were distributed to settlements of the Northern Front - Dzerzhinsk, Mayorsk, Konstantinovka, Svetlodarsk and Bakhmut. The beginning of a new round of military aggression in Kiev against the LDNR is also evidenced by the sequence of actions of the Foreign Ministry of Ukraine in the foreign policy arena.

Kiev did not consider it necessary to carry out the procedure for approving the newly appointed Russian ambassador to Ukraine, Mikhail Babich, whose aggrience had been requested by Moscow a little earlier. The deputy foreign minister of “Square” on European integration, Elena Zerkal, “stretching rubber,” said on the air of the pro-Western “5 Channel” that “the question in the form in which it was raised was removed from the agenda”. There was no definite answer, and the official diplomatic relations of Ukraine with Russia are rolling on the inclined still faster - this is “adequate” for Ukrainian diplomacy. At the same time, numerous maydanutyu politicians and analysts have already managed to describe the possible approval of the new ambassador as the introduction of the Russian World into the European integration processes of Ukraine, which may accelerate the start of a coup d'état in the country. Without any reasonable brains, Kiev diplomats see the new after the next “agent of the Kremlin”, the “GRU fighter”, and also the secret specialist of the information war aimed at destroying the “statehood” of Ukraine, which already does not exist.

Now about the attempt on the head of the LC of Igor Plotnitsky. On the morning of August 6 in Lugansk on the way of the car of the head of the Lugansk People's Republic, a powerful high-explosive radio-controlled explosive device worked, mounted on a light pole. Its capacity was about 15 kg of TNT. The blast wave of the Toyota Land Cruiser Prado SUV broke all the windows and the right side was severely deformed. Plotnitsky himself was delivered in serious condition to one of the medical institutions of the city of Lugansk with contusions, barotrauma, multiple injuries to the surface tissues, lung contusion, and trauma to the vitreous body and cornea of ​​the eye. At the moment, carried out several operations, and the head of the LC was transferred to the intensive care unit, his life is safe.

One cannot finally talk about who could be behind this assassination, for it is I. Plotnitsky who stands behind the unscrupulous destruction of the glorious battalion-era GDR (rapid reaction team) and its field commander Alexander Aleksandrovich Bednova. The unit was suddenly attacked by the assault detachment of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the LPR, orders which were given by Carpenter. Then there were other losses among the field commanders: the commander of the ICBM Alexey Mozgovoy, the commander of the 6-th separate motorized rifle Cossack regiment to them. M.I. Platov Pavel Dremov and military commandant and mayor of Pervomaisk Yevgeny Ischenko. All these people really defended the interests of the people and did not keep backstage arrangements with the militants of the Kiev junta. Thus, it was precisely in I. Plotnitsky’s circles that persons who organized a multi-million smuggling of goods from Ukraine were noticed. It is not possible to prove his involvement in the elimination of the Brain, Dremov and Ishchenko for one hundred percent, but, based on the situation with Bednov and Batman, all thoughts quickly line up in the correct logical chain. All these people were not very profitable for the leadership of the LC, and partly "crossed the road" and hindered the implementation of all the ideas of the republic's leadership associated with the "kicking" interaction with "Square" in the language of big capital.

The current attempt on Plotnitsky has very complex roots, and can be connected both with the sharply changed anti-Ukrainian rhetoric and with the revenge of the internal popular military ideologues for their field commanders.

In the first case, we are talking about the fact that over the past year Plotnitsky’s rhetoric towards Ukraine has sharply tightened. For example, if in February 2015 of the year he, contrary to the opinion of the people, stated that after reforms and federalization, Kiev could keep the republic in the “Square” structure, then in April and May 2016 of the year he noted the real situation, expressing the view that “ unchanged, to the Russian world! ”and directly accused Ukraine of sabotaging the Minsk agreements. And on the eve of the new escalation of hostilities in the Donbass, Plotnitsky’s opinion could well lead to an assassination attempt by the Ukrainian DRGs, which, after being trained by NATO instructors, began to act much more secretively and dangerously (as is well known, today the junta no longer practices sending numerous DRGs, but sends well trained singles who, with the help of modern electronic devices, maintain tactical communications with each other and skillfully conduct subversive activities in the republics). Such a military-political maneuver could be aimed at creating a share of chaos in the leadership of the LC, as well as undermining the morale of the security forces of the republic before a new round of aggression.

The second option is a bit less plausible, but also has a place to be. People’s units that were deprived of their ideological mentors could justifiably take revenge on Plotnitsky with the help of such an action. This could happen only within the framework of a secret agreement and organization between the various parts of the “Narodniks” divisions without the participation of the commanding staff of these divisions, because all of them have long been included in the structures of the people's militia corps of the LC. The variant according to which internal conflicts between Plotnitsky's business elites and rival groups have led to the assassination may also be considered.

ATTEMPT FOR THE BREAKTHROUGH OF THE RUSSIAN-UKRAINIAN BORDER ON THE ARMENIAN DIRECTION - SENTENCE FOR KIEV

By turning Minsk-2 into a pile of obscene waste paper, Ukraine continues to provoke the republics of Donbass and Russia to the most severe asymmetrical response that will forever cover any conversations and plans of the Kiev top leadership to restore constitutional order in the LDNR and the Republic of Crimea.

At about 4 in the morning, 7 in August, on the border of the Kherson region with the Republic of Crimea, in the region of the settlement of Armyansk there was a "breakthrough" of the Ukrainian DRG on the territory of the peninsula. The group consisted of more than 10 militants and tried to pass unnoticed near the checkpoint and the military unit of Armyansk, and then delve into the territory of the peninsula, which it did not succeed. An exchange of fire took place between the border guards and the militants, as a result of which one Russian border guard was killed and three were injured. According to eyewitnesses, the Ukrainian military formation died before the 6 militants, while some could escape persecution deep into the Crimean territory. The situation is in fact out of the ordinary and really threatening the national security of the Russian Federation. Today, more than a dozen militants, tomorrow a couple of armored personnel carriers or infantry fighting vehicles ... And what about tomorrow? "Tornadoes" from Genichesk decide to have fun?

In order to suppress further provocations, reinforced units of the Ministry of Internal Affairs appeared on the streets and in the vicinity of the cities of Dzhankoy and Armyansk, backed by several dozen tanks and armored vehicles, attack helicopters periodically patrol the border. Considering the large number of Ukrainian installations of the barrel and rocket artillery, as well as the huge number of gangs heavily armed to the teeth, represented by the Crimean Tatars, “PS” and the Armed Forces, concentrated in the Kherson region, we can state the “yellow” level of threat, especially since Ukraine is now practically uncontrollable . And note: a sharp aggravation of the situation around the borders of Crimea and LDN is perfectly accompanied by the Olympiad that has begun.


Several versions are being voiced at once regarding the preparation of an attack on the military unit in Armyansk: according to one of them, the main curator of this lawlessness is the Crimean Tatar political figure and entrepreneur Lenur Islyamov, one of the ideologists of the blockade of the Republic of Crimea. Today, a plan has been announced in the Crimea to “intercept” militants who could still break into the territory of the peninsula, and dozens of light and heavy armored vehicles of the Russian Army were launched on the border with the Kherson region


Three interesting, but not brought to a logical conclusion options for the development of the situation in the Donbas described in the publication "Izvestia" the head of the Ukrainian branch of the Institute of CIS countries Denis Denisov.

In accordance with the first formation, the Ukrainian army can launch a general offensive along the entire front line, with the most powerful artillery preparation on the military infrastructure of the Armed Forces of the DPR and the People’s Militia Corps, located both outside and on the territory of the largest cities of Donbass. In this case, the states interpret what is happening by establishing a constitutional order, and the EU countries will only “scold” Kiev for the next non-observance of the Minsk format.

The second and most likely course of events is the rapid transition of the armed forces of Novorossia to a counter-offensive immediately after blocking the offensive operation of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. This time, both the States and the EU will unanimously condemn the actions of the republics, transferring all responsibility to Russia, as well as adding additional sanctions to the existing list of sanctions. In this case, according to Denisov, many international organizations will be involved in the conflict, but this will not have a particular impact.

In accordance with the third option, the general attack of the junta will be stopped, but the borders of the Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics will remain at the same place, and no counteroffensive will follow.

In conclusion, Denis Denisov concludes his statement with an absolutely illogical and erroneous result, summarizing that “none of these options promise the LDNR any good,” and insisting on the nonexistent effectiveness of the peace negotiations.

Looking more deeply at the second option with the counter-offensive of the Armed Forces of Novorossia, it becomes clear that when the borders of the republics literally merge with the borders of the former Donetsk and Lugansk regions, silence finally prevails in the central cities. The range of the Grad and Uragan artillery systems of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, as well as the Msta-B, Pion and Msta-S self-propelled howitzers do not exceed 25-38 km, and they do not have much Smerchia. They simply can not do anything, opening fire from the Dnipropetrovsk or Zaporizhia regions only in the fields between Andreevka and Kurakhovo. If they try to attack the cities of the republics with “Dots-U” or “Elbrusami”, the BCH has already had air defense systems for intercepting them for a long time, since nobody has yet canceled the saving “military trade”. The third option, in practice, the June "throw" of the Ukrainian Armed Forces at Debaltseve ON, proved all its ineffectiveness. VSN stopped the breakthrough of the Ukrainian units, rejected them to their former positions in Svetlodarsk, but the shelling by the junta’s artillery did not cease. Artillery exchanges south of Bakhmut are observed daily.

The second variant of Denisov will be simply indispensable for the further advance of the army of Novorossia from Donbas to the Crimean border. Here, the formations of the junta, Turkish mercenaries and the IG, fairly infuriating the Crimean grouping of the Russian troops with constant provocations, will quickly find themselves in the next tactical "boiler" between the invading forces of the DPR and the Russian Federation advancing through Chongar along the Azov Sea. It is not long to wait for “H” hours, and only a successful offensive operation by the armies of the republics can “pull out” the situation and the Russian people of Donbass from this terrible and disastrous military-political quagmire.

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  1. +33
    8 August 2016 06: 09
    New on Ukrodemotivators
    1. +22
      8 August 2016 06: 47
      The assassination attempt in the LPR is not pleasant, but still there is war. More worrying is the breakthrough of militants in the Crimea. How could this happen and why?
      1. +43
        8 August 2016 07: 11
        Quote: Iskander Sh
        The assassination attempt in the LPR is not pleasant, but still there is war.

        Not only everyone understands that there is a real civil war going on (C). The rest of the biomass believes that there is Russian aggression. At the same time, they cannot in any way relate between two very real factors - there are our troops in Syria and there are the results of the actions of these troops. There are no troops in the Ruin, no results of their actions, but there is a mass of "evidence" of our presence. It cannot be cured.
        1. +1
          8 August 2016 12: 03
          1. Who finansirujet armiju LNR i DNR
          2.Kto snabzajet ljudmi
          3.kto snazajet aruzijem i bojepripasami
          4. Who realno kamandujet
          5. Who is abucajet
          Bajus cto na vse voprosi otvet odin - v osnovnom Rosija. Izhodja iz etovo sledujuscij vopros
          Kto s kem vojujet?
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          2. +45
            8 August 2016 12: 24
            Quote: Bonifacij
            1. Who finansirujet armiju LNR i DNR
            2.Kto snabzajet ljudmi
            3.kto snazajet aruzijem i bojepripasami
            4. Who realno kamandujet
            5. Who is abucajet
            Bajus cto na vse voprosi otvet odin - v osnovnom Rosija. Izhodja iz etovo sledujuscij vopros
            Kto s kem vojujet?

            The same questions can be asked with regard to Ukraine, right? Industry, energy are working in the Donbas, but the republics are actually in the ruble zone, and whose fault is it? Who cut off the financing of their own territories? Is it Ukraine? And if so, then why resentment and assaults? Ukraine itself has put the population before a choice between starvation and integration into the Russian economy ...
            The supply of ammunition and weapons — the participation of Russia is not something that has not been proved, but is constantly refuted by the Ukrainians themselves — for the entire period of hostilities in Ukraine, the remnants of destroyed equipment (or captured equipment) with Russian serial numbers have never been demonstrated ... Not even one unit of small arms was not heard, although accounting during the cutting of the Soviet Army in 1991 was made ...
            Humanitarian convoys remain, but do you really consider them a means of financing the war?
          3. +19
            8 August 2016 17: 44
            Boniface ... Donetsk has its own factories for the production of cartridges and weapons. all the equipment that is in their arsenal is either left in military warehouses in the same place in Donetsk and the regions, lmbo is seized (sometimes bought) from the Armed Forces of Ukraine. no one needs to teach them either, they themselves will teach anyone, about finances, well, let's say the Donbass has always been self-sufficient and fed not sickly half of Ukraine. so ... our dear "fair and freedom-loving" Lithuanian, your questions seem to only make it difficult for you. because the fingers are sucked out and absolutely not justified by anything. Russia provides humanitarian assistance to Donbass, and for this they are enormously grateful. But what the Ukrainians are doing ... who simply do not even have serums from tetanus and other infectious diseases, it would be worth asking a question to both the Ukrainian leadership and you. are you allies? so ... help your own. give them medicine at least. as you can see, the Americans do not care at all about the health of Ukrainians, well, help them. or is your only help in assenting and asking stupid questions?
          4. +28
            8 August 2016 19: 53
            Quote: Bonifacij
            Kto s kem vojujet?

            1. Who made the military coup in Kiev?
            2. Who finances the fascist junta?
            3. Who kills people in the Donbass just because they want to speak Russian?
            4. Who really rules in Ukraine?
            And Russia is fighting! laughing There are no gentlemen from the USA and the EU, it’s you who are trying to push Ukraine and Russia into a bloody massacre for fun for you! am Neither cannon fodder in Europe, nor gentlemen can sit out behind a puddle. Everything has its time! And remember "He who laughs last laughs well" hi
            1. peter_sever
              +2
              9 August 2016 00: 21
              .
              Who kills people in the Donbass just because they want to speak Russian?


              I live in Severodonetsk, the current capital of the Lugansk region, as they said, and we speak Russian, despite the fact that the city is full of military men, from the National Guard to the well-being. In the Armed Forces, half speak Russian, so it may not Need to repeat the stamps again?
              1. 0
                9 August 2016 02: 45
                It’s not a question, but when, if they succeed, they will cut off all the Ldnrovites, they will take up Russian speakers. I have a lot of Russian interlocutors from Kiev on Slavic sites a long time ago, although they were also brave, we are not in danger ...
                1. peter_sever
                  -3
                  9 August 2016 09: 48
                  Quote: znavel
                  they will take up Russian speakers.

                  Well, yes. More than half of the APU speaks Russian, so the remaining Ukrainian-speaking will cut them out? Yeah, your logic is ironic ..
                  1. +5
                    9 August 2016 10: 42
                    Quote: peter_sever
                    Well, yes. More than half of the APU speaks Russian, so the remaining Ukrainian-speaking will cut them out? Yeah, your logic is ironic ..


                    Why cut? No one will cut anyone, they will simply prohibit official communication in Russian, prohibit teaching Russian in general, launch propaganda that Russian is "the language of quilted jackets and cattle" and voila ... You and your generation will still speak Russian, although it will be it is terribly out of fashion and shameful in "New Ukraine", and your children will already despise the language of their ancestors, they will become Svidomo Ukrainians who speak only MOV.
              2. +9
                9 August 2016 10: 34
                Quote: peter_sever
                I live in Severodonetsk, the current capital of the Lugansk region, as they said, and we speak Russian, despite the fact that the city is full of military men, from the National Guard to the well-being. In the Armed Forces, half speak Russian, so it may not Need to repeat the stamps again?


                You know, of course, as a citizen of Ukraine, you know better, only as far as I remember, right after the coup, the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, under the leadership of Chairman Turchinov, decided to cancel the status of the Russian language, though a couple of weeks after that, the same Turchynov as the Tsar’s IO ( c) vetoed this decision .. but by that time this decision had already achieved its goal, provoking indignation and opposition in the east and south of Ukraine, and by the way served (IMHO) as one of the factors that helped the residents of Crimea to decide on their region from Ukraine and the entry into Russia.
                Why am I, no matter who and where now speaks what language, it is important that at one time the struggle began for the native language as well ... The fact that then Kiev had other more pressing problems, behind which the status of the Russian language as then forgetting does not mean anything, this question is simply postponed for the time being due to irrelevance ... in the event of their "hypothetical victory" they will certainly remember about the Russian language ...
                Look at the 3 Baltic giants, the status of the Russian language there and the status of their Russian-speaking citizen, here is the future that awaits the Russian language and Russian-speaking in / in Ukraine in case of a junta victory - second-class people ...
                What I wrote is solely my opinion, of course I could be wrong, and as a person who is a citizen of Ukraine, the situation on the ground is closer and more visible, of course, I only set out my vision ..
              3. +2
                9 August 2016 14: 42
                Well, kiss them ass for their liberators from the Armed Forces and the good.
              4. +1
                9 August 2016 19: 22
                Mr. Peter. Do not confuse warm and soft. the so-called Ukrainization goes on without stopping. Of course, it is so simple not to knock out the language spoken by almost the entire country of 404, and someone is too lazy to learn it, because if the arm and leg are the same, and the difference in time is why? However, there is an answer to your question.
                If you remember how it all began, then no surprise does not arise the unwillingness to live with the Svidomo. A coup d'etat funded by the State Department, officially supported by it, the rapid growth of Nazi formations, their formation from bandits released from prisons, the brutal murders of dissent (Odessa, Kiev itself, Korsun), after all this, screams from the "capital" about the prohibition of the Russian language only little cherry on the cake.
              5. 0
                9 August 2016 22: 01
                well, it's temporary. as a bitch, everyone will roam or die
            2. -1
              9 August 2016 14: 54
              1. Who is ???
              2. There is a "fascist junta", and at the head of the republics are not the military?
              3. Well, people are the last people to think about, both on the one hand and on the other. They also speak Russian in Ukraine, judging by the broadcasts from the parliament.
              4. Really rule the demons))), and Novorossia is not Ukraine? Come on without emotions and we will not talk about geography.

              Are there such people who enclose parking lots in yards, does this mean that this territory belongs to them ?? Or maybe Kazakhstan will return us. Here gazproooomu expanse.

              The map of natural resources in the LPR and DPR is very interesting. I'm not talking about gas and coal of course.

              The Russian Federation does everything in its interests, I support of course (the USSR until 1993. Angola, Syria, Afghanistan, Yemen, etc. On the article there is an incomplete list somewhere), just like the United States, it always has been, but at what cost, that's another matter.

              At Prado Plotnitsky from 1 kg of something there, all the fragments went exactly into the windows and airbags (apparently auto-max equipment, with poor people), it’s strange not to say that. maybe born in a shirt?
              1. 0
                9 August 2016 19: 48
                Quote: dep071
                2. There is a "fascist junta", and at the head of the republics are not the military?

                With some difference. There was a coup in Kiev, a referendum and elections in Donbas. The Kiev "elections" were held with violations, which did not allow to assert that those who are in power today (and, by the way, if not the junta, then why not stop the war? Maybe because it can only hold out in martial law?
                Quote: dep071
                3. Well, people are the last people to think about, both on the one hand and on the other.

                Oh well. I will not even comment on this nonsense.
                Quote: dep071
                4. Really rule the demons))), and Novorossia is not Ukraine?

                No. There is no such country - Ukraine. There is a territorial entity run by officials from the State Department with some robbery functions, excuse local self-government. With territories donated at different times by the authorities of Russia and the USSR.
                Quote: dep071
                Russia does everything in its interests

                This is normal. This is what the "leadership" of country 404 is doing - not in the interests of this "country".
                Quote: dep071
                just like the usa, it always has been

                Again stupidity. The methods of achievement are completely different.
                We did not destroy Dresden, Tokyo, Hiroshima and Nagaska just to see what would come of it. Our Chukchi still roam with their deer, in the USSR, many peoples appeared writing. Universal free and high-quality education. The level at which the capitalists were forced to equal. We are civilizationally different.
                Quote: dep071
                Prado Carpenter

                Oh my gosh. My former boss drives 3 cars, a Skoda Octavia, Toyota Premium and Nissan Patrol. Plus quadrics, and ... A company of 30 people. Steals of course. But this is the absolute bottom of the pyramid. Open the core and see. In my region, Prado from 600 to 000 million worth. http://krasnoyarsk.drom.ru/toyota/land_cruiser_prado/3.html
                Yes, unlike the Europeans, the Japanese do not disassemble their cars and buying a Japanese is very likely to get the same
                Quote: dep071
                max configuration
                wassat
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          6. +6
            8 August 2016 20: 11
            Bonifacij, are you broadcasting from the underworld? Your epaulettes with a self-portrait and an unknown flag.
          7. +1
            8 August 2016 20: 15
            Admin, but you can’t ban this banification? It's a saboteur in our ranks ...
            1. +1
              9 August 2016 19: 48
              So do not feed the troll and all things! If a person consciously throws provocative posts, then he’s just at work, ignore him .. why help him earn 30 pieces of silver?
            2. +1
              9 August 2016 19: 51
              Let it "broadcast". We have freedom laughing Only liberals ban dissent wassat
          8. +11
            8 August 2016 20: 33
            To idiotic questions, there are always normal answers, and it is simply stupid to throw such "accusations" with frank de.bi.l.ami. Ukraine (like the rest of the post-Soviet "states"), according to the results of the March 1991 referendum, are essentially separate and illegitimate. In 2014, as a result of a coup, one illegal government was replaced by another illegal government, no difference. It's just that in 1991, as a result of general betrayal at the top, Russia had no time to deal with its separate outskirts. Now, in fact, everything that Russia is doing or will be doing in relation to the so-called Ukraine, and by any means (including military), is absolutely normal in the sense of returning its historical territories, and protecting the Russian population from some Ukrainians that no one had even heard of a hundred years ago. I hope that no one will deny that the Dnieper and Black Sea regions have been Russian lands for hundreds of years, in contrast to the twenty-five-year-old "state" of Ukraine. Moreover, frankly speaking, all this fuss over Ukraine is a conflict between Russia and the West, in which Ukraine and the Ukrainians, from the very beginning on the part of their Western masters, and no one took into account.
            1. peter_sever
              -4
              9 August 2016 09: 50
              Now, in fact, everything that Russia does, or will do, in relation to the so-called Ukraine, and by any means (including military), is absolutely normal in the sense of returning its historical territories and protecting the Russian population from some Ukrainians that no one had heard of a hundred years ago.


              Yes, you have already "defended" the Russians in the Donbas
              1. +3
                9 August 2016 10: 49
                Unfortunately, they couldn’t do it in Donbass, although they made every possible effort ... But in the Crimea they would have protected if it hadn’t for Russia, there would now be the same bloodbath as in Donbass. In general, do you really think that Russia is to blame for the problems of the Donbass ?? Is that honest?
              2. +1
                9 August 2016 14: 30
                And what is not what? If it weren’t for Russia, your Khokhloander army would surely destroy half of Donbass and now every day it will fire at cities and villages of Donbass killing civilians.
            2. 0
              9 August 2016 22: 46
              Orionvit Husband's Words +
          9. +7
            8 August 2016 21: 33
            Quote: Bonifacij
            1. Who finansirujet armiju LNR i DNR
            2.Kto snabzajet ljudmi
            3.kto snazajet aruzijem i bojepripasami
            4. Who realno kamandujet
            5. Who is abucajet
            Bajus cto na vse voprosi otvet odin - v osnovnom Rosija. Izhodja iz etovo sledujuscij vopros
            Kto s kem vojujet?

            who ... who .... grandfather Fir !!! But who gets the neck clearly in advance!
          10. +9
            8 August 2016 22: 21
            Quote: Bonifacij

            Kto s kem vojujet?

            In reality, the United States and Russia are fighting. But this war was launched by the United States, not the Russian Federation. It was the United States that sponsored the Euromaidan and helped to overthrow Yanukovych. The United States wanted to set up its bases in the Crimea and on the border with Russia, and to control its actions. This RF could not allow. And now the United States is sponsoring the Ukrainian army. And therefore, all that Russia does in the Donbass is the protection of its territories from the United States. Yes, Russia helps the militias. But the United States helps Ukraine with mercenaries and weapons, and nobody tells them anything.
            And Bonifacij I have a question for you. Why are immigrants from Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia and Poland fighting against the DPR and LPR? So these states are also fighting.
          11. 0
            9 August 2016 14: 38
            Yes it is, but don’t you understand who what is the gay European conscience or what? There is also a "north wind" if you are not aware and if your hohlodruzya go on the offensive none of them will remain alive.
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        2. -37
          8 August 2016 14: 36
          Quote: inkass_98
          but then there is a mass of "evidence" of our presence. It cannot be cured.

          no, of course, with a stretch, I admit that two tank divisions can be accommodated by drunken ensigns of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but do they synthesize fuel and lubricants for all this?
          1. +43
            8 August 2016 15: 14
            Quote: AkselRuur
            no, of course, with a stretch, I admit that two tank divisions can be accommodated by drunken ensigns of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but do they synthesize fuel and lubricants for all this?


            And from what do American anti-tank systems synthesize APU ?! Maybe also out of thin air ?! And the American instructors also metered out of thin air ?!

            Why, such ghouls like you and a certain Bonifacij, refuse Russia the right to provide assistance, including military assistance, to the legitimate authorities of LDNR and at the same time, you turn a blind eye to the fact that kilometer-long people stick out in Kiev for Bandera’s illegitimate authorities ears of Washington ?! America means you can sponsor the Nazis, and Russia to help normal people no-no ?!

            And yet, your avatar is moronic! You can immediately determine who is behind her ... Either an ukrofashist or our liberal liberal.
            1. -34
              8 August 2016 15: 37
              Insults are a sign of weak argument
              1. +19
                8 August 2016 17: 09
                Who offended you? Sit and not n ,,,,,,,,,,,,,
                1. -12
                  8 August 2016 21: 32
                  I'm not about myself.
                  Akselruur suggested that no, of course, with a stretch, I admit that two tank divisions can be accommodated by drunken ensigns of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but do they synthesize fuel and lubricants for all this?
                  Diana Ilyina answered him not at all convincingly, just insulting.
                  So I answered these "arguments". And a bunch of cons - it's funny :)
                  1. +8
                    9 August 2016 02: 54
                    Diana cited quite convincing counter-questions as arguments, and insulted at the end, because such questions that ask Boniface and Axelruor smack of the childish naivety of the liberals and the crumbs. Your attempt to protect them is precisely because of the lack of anything to object to the demand for appeal to intelligence. Which is just a sign of weakness.
              2. +14
                8 August 2016 20: 08
                Oh, about the insults, so your Ukrainian population in general is ahead of the rest. Look at your sites - it seems that Ukrainians, for the most part - young people, were conceived by their parents not in love, but in fierce hatred of each other. For the poison is dripping from the teeth ...
                1. -14
                  8 August 2016 21: 41
                  For the poison is dripping from the teeth ..


                  I just expressed the thought of unreasoned statements and insults of the commenter.
                  And what is my poison. You emit poison. Baseless besides
              3. +2
                8 August 2016 20: 13
                You are already offended by your icteric-cyanotic flag forever.
              4. +5
                8 August 2016 20: 27
                Quote: rapusa
                sign of weakness

                A. Block
                "We are barbarians? Well, we will show you what barbarians are. And our cruel answer, a terrible answer, will be the only one worthy of man (...) Europe (its theme) is art and death. Russia is life!"
                1. -11
                  8 August 2016 21: 37
                  Quote: Serg Koma
                  Quote: rapusa
                  sign of weakness

                  A. Block
                  "..And our cruel response, terrible response ..."

                  What is the answer, what is the answer, what is the point? Unanswered answer? It just has to be scary from cruelty now? Is this an offer of life?
                  In my opinion - this is a sign of weakness, actually.
              5. +13
                8 August 2016 21: 54
                Hi, my good revolutionary. While you are reflexively reflecting the attacks of Muscovites on Twitter and Facebook, without removing the drushlug from your head, watch this video and answer the simple question: “Are you fighting this army?”
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYpL-oe7l0w
                Tu - 22M3, which are high above the clouds, are dropping 500 kilogram bombs on the heads of the barmaley in Syria, corrected by the GLONASS navigation system, which even buses in Moscow use. And many such "gifts" arrive on their heads while they fry goat kebabs and dream of Ukrainian virgins in paradise.

                Tell me, what would you be going to fight with these "birds"?
                Seriously, think about what would be left after such a solitary raid of only six strategic bombers from your invincible army, if this would happen on your # one-land land?

                This "colossus" burns fuel worth more than what Ukrainian volunteers have collected for your army in three years.

                Already I hear the unique clatter of pots from indignation ...

                And yes, you can’t ban the truth, my friend

                If you want to eat, you will come to Russia, you will build a bridge or a high-rise building in Tyumen

                Fat is Rotten, Heroes are dead, puppy ...
                1. -22
                  8 August 2016 22: 41
                  Quote: The Bloodthirster
                  Tell me, what would you be going to fight with these "birds"?


                  I correctly understood this your farting: should it become scary now?
                  It turned out the opposite: it became funny laughing
                  1. +4
                    9 August 2016 02: 55
                    Hysteria, my friend, and not in vain))))
                    1. -1
                      10 August 2016 22: 22
                      Quote: znavel
                      Hysteria old man


                      hysterics? wassat
                      on the contrary, such "experts" cause a real healthy laugh.
                      just for that to them and thank you good
                2. -2
                  9 August 2016 20: 04
                  Dear The Bloodthirster

                  Are you going to bomb the Ukrainian army, if so what next? 6 Tu - 22M3 arrived
                  bombed, and then cut the corridor to the Crimea, give Kiev, Lviv, Odessa? Said A must say B.
                  The DRG breakthrough in Crimea is very reminiscent of a different situation

                  "Mr. Messenger!
                  According to the General Staff of the Red Army, today, November 26, at 15 hours 45 minutes, our troops, located on the Karelian Isthmus near the Finnish border near the village of Mainila, were unexpectedly fired from Finnish territory with artillery fire. In total, seven gun shots were fired, as a result of which three privates and one junior commander were killed, seven privates and two from the command staff were wounded. Soviet troops, having a strict order not to succumb to provocation, refrained from firing back. NOTE OF THE SOVIET GOVERNMENT November 26, 1939 What do you remember next?
              6. +1
                8 August 2016 23: 26
                Of course, we all know that the last phase is remembered!
            2. +4
              8 August 2016 17: 02
              Quote: Diana Ilyina
              And did American instructors also meter out of thin air ?!
              Well, American instructors, even with the official approval of the White House, appeared. But about "the adventures of Canadians in Ukraine" we are waiting for details.
            3. +5
              8 August 2016 20: 02
              Quote: Diana Ilyina
              You can immediately determine who is behind her ... Either an ukrofashist or our liberal liberal.
              But they didn’t guess wassat This is our sworn friend from Latvia named Andris. request How many wolves do not feed, but he all looks into the forest. wassat They stopped feeding, they howl now, and they try to yap.
            4. peter_sever
              -2
              9 August 2016 09: 52
              denied the right to provide assistance to Russia


              They don’t refuse. You just don’t have to make faces of yourself, portraying that the Russian Federation is out of business, and these are all miners with combine harvesters for voluntary donations from patriotic Racean patriots.
            5. -2
              9 August 2016 16: 52
              Quote: Diana Ilyina
              such ghouls like you

              Thank you for the vampire, we pleased the old man. I love, you know, to drink human blood, I will not hide.
              Quote: Diana Ilyina
              denied the right to provide assistance to Russia

              The help of Russia (as a state) is expressed purely in the mercantile interests of a certain circle of people who are ready to take part in cutting the industry and natural resources of the Donetsk basin. But personally, to you as a true patriot, fat uncles also transfer money (probably) laughing
              Quote: Diana Ilyina
              the legitimate authorities of LDNR
              legitimate rightfully strong? how is it in LDN read here https://work-way.com/o-polozhenii-v-donbasse-konets-iyunya-nachalo-iyulya-2016-g
              -ugroza-bolshoj-vojny /
              Quote: Diana Ilyina
              sponsor fascists
              and what is fascism, read here https://work-way.com/fashizm-ch-1-klassovaya-sushhnost-fashizma/, here https://work-way.com/fashizm-ch-2-fashizm-do -prixoda-k-vlasti-i-fashizm-u-vlasti
              /, here https://work-way.com/fashizm-ch-3-diktatura-fashizma-i-ugnetenie-mass/ and here https://work-way.com/ideologiya-fashizm
              Quote: Diana Ilyina
              And yet, your avatar is moronic!
              What? This is a normal avatar, it depicts a Red Army soldier who performs the command "At ease" "You can recover and smoke." bully
              Hello to patriots !!!
          2. +2
            8 August 2016 17: 54
            Quote: AkselRuur
            no, of course, with a stretch, I admit that two tank divisions can be accommodated by drunken ensigns of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but do they synthesize fuel and lubricants for all this?

            Banderlog, what are you doing in Russia, maybe it’s time for an independent one ?! belay
        3. -3
          8 August 2016 20: 00
          give up hope everyone entering this thread ... more marasmus in the comments, I have not read. "censor" -smokes nervously ... belay
      2. +13
        8 August 2016 07: 45
        Provocations in the ATO zone from Kuev will continue. They are unlikely to advance due to fear of losing the area. But keeping the 100th army idle is no less dangerous. The aggravation of internal social tension will only increase. The way out of the political impasse is through another coup d'etat. Where to explode is difficult to predict. There are many options. We’ll see how it goes.
        1. 0
          9 August 2016 16: 01
          They will advance. What is their area? Do you think Russian is for the country. And you need to think zhovtoblakitnom - for yourself and only. They need to work out advances. And the situation seems to be a win-win (those killed, wounded and tortured do not count. They don’t think so, they’re not killing them), no matter what happens, there is a scenario for infringing Russia. The militia will capture the region (and even Kiev in addition) - Russia is to blame. Do not capture - still to blame.
          So they will work their own pieces of silver anyway. So they, the great offenders, think. That's just, as always, no one yet knows what Putin planned there. I think that his answer will be calm, harsh and crushing as usual. Nevertheless, I hope that the land corridor to Crimea will be formed as a result. I need it.
      3. +1
        8 August 2016 08: 34
        How could this happen? You can always find a loophole, plus the usual inattention. As I understand it, now the border will be strengthened by max-mine fields and more.
        Quote: Iskander Sh
        The assassination attempt in the LPR is not pleasant, but still there is war. More worrying is the breakthrough of militants in the Crimea. How could this happen and why?
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      4. +10
        8 August 2016 12: 32
        Nothing, nothing! Soon Natsik will hang on birches. am
        The music played for a short time, the frayer did not dance for long.
        After everything experienced, LDNR workers are unlikely to spare them much. am
      5. +5
        8 August 2016 14: 42
        A breakthrough of militants in the Crimea is a clear flaw in the FSB. What prevents them from having operational positions, for example. in the Kherson region, probably big ZP and dreams of black gelendvagens ...
      6. -2
        8 August 2016 21: 03
        People are dying in the LPR and DPR. Yes, so what? There is a war! But how did the militants creep to the Crimea? That's where the tragedy is!
      7. 0
        13 August 2016 00: 05
        The author of the article, a typical provocateur. Presses on emotions, completely forgetting about the facts. Ftopku !!! I would take an assault rifle and go to war, and then I taught how to conclude a contract and how to carry out strategic operations. Sofa strategist. I myself am not a member of couch armies and I despise those who are in them.
    2. +28
      8 August 2016 10: 49
      In the battle with the sabotage group, it was not the border guard who died, but the head of the special unit of the FSB Directorate for the Crimea ... a good guy, I personally knew the funeral will be held in his homeland in Kursk
      1. 0
        8 August 2016 14: 22
        Quote: dmitriyruss
        In the battle with the sabotage group, it was not the border guard who died, but the head of the special unit of the FSB Directorate for the Crimea ... a good guy, I personally knew the funeral will be held in his homeland in Kursk

        And the corpses of 6 ukroboevikov show? Or are they not?
        1. +5
          8 August 2016 17: 42
          It is not so simple there, to put it mildly ... there is an opinion that after the official confirmation of the invasion of saboteurs, the Russian Federation as a serious country should bomb at least something, and in our yard, according to tradition, the Olympics, so that there would be no panic among tourists and local, there is a quiet search for surviving ukrodiversants. Again, according to my info saboteurs in our territory were waiting, but .... something went wrong
          1. 0
            8 August 2016 21: 13
            And if on June 22, 41 years old fell on the olympiad? Wouldn't they answer the German too? Stop trying to make peace with the west. We began to lose ground on all fronts when we began to fear war as fire. Millions of our ancestors did not spare themselves, defending their homeland from an external and internal enemy. I do not want war, but I am not afraid of it. If you choose between the fate of Libya and the total thermonuclear war, then I will choose the second.
    3. 0
      8 August 2016 16: 03
      "The shameless destruction of the glorious RRT (Rapid Response Team) Batman" mean? And how, for example, is the recent detention of two fighters of this glorious Batman brigade in Russia connected with extortion of money from a Russian bank? Maybe you shouldn't throw such accusations?
      1. 0
        8 August 2016 20: 19
        Don’t you compose? Maybe you should not throw such statements (without links).
        1. +2
          8 August 2016 21: 52
          Moscow’s Basmanny Court convicted two ex-Batman quick-reaction team fraudsters They fought on the side of the Lugansk People's Republic (LPR). Alexander Solntsev and Yegor Yuldashev sentenced to eight years in prison. YOU WILL FIND THE MOST NEWS YOURSELF.
      2. +2
        9 August 2016 18: 49
        Quote: g1v2
        gbr batman

        oh, now they will run from the Strelkov sect. ))) And me too.
        I can immediately say Strelkov Starbol. You can minus, but the Lord will not let you lie.
        1. +2
          9 August 2016 18: 59
          Quote: Krasniy_lis
          oh, now they will run from the Strelkov sect. ))) And me too.
          I can immediately say Strelkov Starbol. You can minus, but the Lord will not let you lie.

          He will not let anyone lie? if Strelkov, then yes, I write to him after his next interview, he is corrected for a couple of weeks, and then again for his own. And such selective nonsense bears, which by the way very often coincides with nonsense, which is shown in the Ukrainian media, but they often refer to it and quote.
    4. 0
      8 August 2016 16: 49
      That is why the car is not armored? A long time ago they book at least Cossacks in 5th or 6th grade.
    5. +1
      8 August 2016 22: 37
      Here they write 15 kg each ... However, at first there was a kilo, then five ... So that there would be 15 kg of TNT left from an unarmored car, if it was blown up nearby?
    6. 0
      12 August 2016 23: 40
      Bandera stupid. Well, they will remove Plotnikov, and so what? Will everything fall apart? No. In LDNR smarter people are sitting.
  2. PKK
    -97
    8 August 2016 06: 18
    You can add. The situation is much more serious. Yesterday the Ukrainians conducted a successful test of a nuclear device at a test site near Mariupol. A prototype OTR "Thunder" is being tested, built with sponsors' money at a new plant near Dnepropetrovsk. By the end of the year, the Ukrainians will have both delivery vehicles and warheads. on new technologies for overcoming missile defense. They will have to make a sufficient number of products. In connection with this, they will have to change the tactics and strategy of the War.
    1. +30
      8 August 2016 06: 53
      What other nuclear device? If this were the case, then the squeal of the international community would be immeasurable. Not even considering Russia
      1. 0
        8 August 2016 07: 04
        earthquake of 4.5 points with an epicenter under mariupol, what was it? Why no details?
        1. +7
          8 August 2016 07: 38
          Balu-in the Rostov region, on the border with Ukraine in three regions at 11:30 am, shocks from an earthquake that occurred near Mariupol were recorded. By the way, when I wrote whether the anthrax was not the intrigues of our "sworn friends", I was almost eaten. And according to the Mariupol earthquake, according to experts, there should not be such a shock, the maximum force should not exceed 2,8-3 points, and not 5,7 points in fact. So not everything is there and just ...
          1. +2
            8 August 2016 08: 22
            Maybe something harmless -type pampering with slate? recourse
          2. +3
            8 August 2016 08: 26
            Quote: Exorcist Liberoids
            So not everything is there and just ...

            I can not understand what why are you and Balu minus ??! I believe that your thoughts are correct.
            1. +26
              8 August 2016 08: 40
              Quote: Balu
              Maybe something harmless -type pampering with slate?
              They didn’t give a damn a hydraulic fracture! Are you serious?
              Quote: gg.na
              I can’t understand why you and Balu are being played ??! I think your thoughts are true
              For nonsense. Consider how powerful an underground nuclear explosion must be to cause an earthquake within a thousand keme from its epicenter? Not otherwise hohlyatki 50-megaton "Tsar Bomb" blew up laughing
              However, for conspirators such a version quite rolls.
              Quote: Balu
              Earthquake artificial or natural?
              Already answered. Anyone who believes in the artificial nature of this earthquake, to put it mildly, is categorically wrong. hi
              1. -5
                8 August 2016 08: 45
                Quote: Ami du peuple
                Quote: gg.na
                Maybe something harmless -type pampering with slate?

                I beg your pardon, dear, but this: "- Maybe something harmless - like pampering with shale?": No. I did not write! I ask you to be more careful when responding to comments! Yes Yeah !!!
              2. +3
                8 August 2016 09: 57
                There is an iron ore quarry near my city, and an explosion of several tons of industrial explosives up to 20-25 km is felt. Well, here the tremors barely reached a hundred kilometers, especially considering the depth of the epicenter in 10 km.
              3. -3
                8 August 2016 11: 48
                That's exactly what I believed in you. I also want to see the opinion of seismologists. The nature of the waves of artificial and natural origin is different, we were in the 8th grade of the Soviet school.
              4. PKK
                -22
                8 August 2016 16: 29
                You are the captain of evidence. The 50 mgt bomb makes a shock wave that bypasses the ground three times. Under Mariupol, the explosion was half as much as under Fokusima. Learn the mat part.
                In addition, last year a tactical nuclear explosion was already near Donetsk.
                1. +6
                  8 August 2016 17: 11
                  What do you smoke? Even a small charge of a tactical warhead in 2-3 kilotons burns out in a radius of 100-150 m, and radiation will hit up to 20-30 km. Already half of the Donbass would suffer from radiation sickness. The standard tactical charge 10-20 ct to 3 km amazes personnel.
                2. +3
                  9 August 2016 18: 53
                  Quote: PKK
                  Near Mariupol explosion

                  yeah at a depth of 10 km.
                  Google to the rescue. The epicenter is 76 (sort of) km from Donetsk at a depth of 10 km. Although Ukram after digging the Black Sea, it’s not difficult to dig a well 10 km away, right?
            2. -7
              8 August 2016 09: 22
              why are you and Balu minus ??! I believe that your thoughts are correct.
              I have minuses, pluses to the checkout. And yet, was there an earthquake or not?
              This ju-ju is not casual. Will the cloud come to us across the border or not?
              1. +19
                8 August 2016 10: 07
                Quote: Balu
                And yet, was there an earthquake or not?
                It was. AND? Natural disasters sometimes happen, you know.
                Quote: Balu
                Will the cloud come to us across the border or not?
                What the fuck is the cloud ?! If you talk like that, then in the vicinity of Mariupol, there are no longer any survivors, if an underground nuclear explosion of such a force was released into the atmosphere.
                Tip: take something soothing. Brom, or something ..
                Although it’s better to roll vodka wink
                1. 0
                  8 August 2016 17: 32
                  Tip: take something soothing. Brom, or something ..
                  Although it’s better to roll vodka

                  Already, it did not help. wassat Can repeat? laughing drinks I am a civilian, in addition, if something happens, they may ask me to the hearth voluntarily-forcibly or accept from there. crying
              2. 0
                8 August 2016 17: 53
                there was an earthquake, it was felt even in Dnepropetrovsk. my girlfriend lives there, yesterday she said that they were shaken. and one of the first to write it to me in drugs on the FB. I haven’t mentioned anything about it anywhere.
                1. +3
                  8 August 2016 18: 35
                  http://spacegid.com/seysmicheskaya-aktivnost-zemletryaseniy.html

                  earthquake, epicenter at a depth of 10 km.
                  What kind of vigorous bomb?
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              3. +6
                8 August 2016 19: 33
                Quote: Balu
                This ju-ju is not casual.

                Well, yes, it was worth the Ukrainians to bury a bomb for 10 km, nonsense, that neither us nor the Amers succeeded, because the proto-Ukrainians dug up the World Cup, and they bury them for 100 km. laughing laughing laughing

                Learn marshal materiel. For example here poligon.org.kz
          3. +4
            8 August 2016 12: 25
            Quote: Exorcist Liberoids
            And in the Mariupol earthquake, according to experts, there should not be such an impulse, the maximum force should not exceed 2,8-3 points, and not 5,7 points in fact. T

            From where infa about 5,7 points share. While independent sources report 4,8 points and a depth of 10 km, and given that 30 years ago there was an earthquake in Mariupol, so no wonder
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        2. 0
          8 August 2016 10: 47
          Quote: Balu
          earthquake of 4.5 points with an epicenter under mariupol, what was it? Why no details?

          This question is more true to the Americans.
      2. +9
        8 August 2016 07: 14
        Quote: kuz363
        What other nuclear device? If this were the case, then the squeal of the international community would be immeasurable. Not even considering Russia
        What? The militants in Syria are letting sarin and mustard go, and not a single dog in the west gives a voice. You greatly overestimate the west, there are double standards.
        1. Riv
          +7
          8 August 2016 07: 27
          No need to be so gullible. Zarin and mustard gas on his knee in the garage can not be blind. In addition, both under normal conditions - liquid and it just doesn’t work out that you just leave a balloon on the street and open the valve. Three years ago, in Syria, sarin was used, but it was not homemade, but in the filling of howitzer shells.

          Barmalei use chlorine more often. Just what you need. It quickly (but not very!) Leaves the cylinder, there is time to get out of the zone of infection and it is easier to survive. And that mortality is low - so the point is not to kill more.
          1. +4
            8 August 2016 12: 54
            Quote: Riv
            Sarin and mustard on the knee in the garage is not blind.

            Sarin, do not blind, and mustard gas can be. For the manufacture of mustard are needed: Sulfuric acid (electrolyte), salt and ethyl alcohol. All components can be bought freely.
            1. Riv
              0
              8 August 2016 15: 56
              And what about sulfuric acid? Believe me: if you mix everything listed by you in a flask, then there will be a lot of stench, but mustard will not work. The easiest way to obtain it is from ethylene and sulfur chloride, on a catalyst. Ethylene can be replaced by ethanol, but the yield will be lower due to hydrolysis. It turns out not pure mustard gas, but a mixture of products, also with quite lethal properties.
              But why, if for the same headstock you can buy a hundred times more than ordinary chlorine?
          2. +1
            8 August 2016 21: 18
            Aum Senrique was able to get sarin in artisanal conditions and used it in the Tokyo subway. Several thousand people were injured, 12 died. With competent chemists, reagents, and relatively simple equipment, synthesizing organic matter is quite simple.
        2. 0
          8 August 2016 08: 28
          Quote: Lightest
          . You greatly overestimate the west, there are double standards.

          That's it! And not even double but triple and more. And after how banderlogs apply nuclear weapons, the west screech will raise that RUSSIA did this !!
          1. +3
            8 August 2016 12: 10
            Apart from the "dirty" bomb, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will not be able to use anything else, there is no technology. But there is no infection, is it? And for an underground nuclear explosion, a large amount of work needs to be done, and all this in front of the local population. So the version is unreal!
        3. +7
          8 August 2016 10: 27
          Quote: Lightest
          The militants in Syria are letting sarin and mustard go, and not a single dog in the west gives a voice.
          This is because sarin and mustard gas have a short duration and the same range. It will not reach Europe in any case. Unlike radioactive fallout from the territory of Ukraine. If it were really about the production of nuclear weapons in Ukraine, it would not be just a squeal. All these powders, turchinovs, parubiyevs and others, the European "partners" would have hung by textiles. Because this is not even Iran. It's generally close at hand.
          At the same time, a fallout in Ukraine is not excluded even without nuclear weapons. Considering that Westinghouse has thrust their rods into all the reactors of Ukrainian nuclear power plants, the question is not likely - "will it be or not?" and time - "when".
          1. PKK
            -5
            8 August 2016 16: 38
            All over the world, nuclear power plants are used to produce weapons-grade materials for nuclear bombs and only in Ukropia is this absolutely impossible, right? What is it that nuclear power plants only give out peaceful current? And about the screams, no one will meddle in the affairs of the State Department, they will unscrew the Bosko and say that it’s so bad.
            1. +3
              8 August 2016 21: 34
              There are no heavy water or uranium-graphite reactors in the "Krajina Zdobutkiv". Power reactors of the VVER type are not capable of producing Pu-239 on an industrial scale, and Ukraine transferred the reserves of enriched uranium to the United States during Yanyk's time. The maximum they can do is to detonate a "dirty" bomb, soiling the territory.
      3. +2
        8 August 2016 07: 41
        Kuz363-and the world community, who is this? And why doesn’t it see the mass genocide of the Russian population of the republics ???
      4. +1
        8 August 2016 08: 22
        Quote: kuz363
        then the squeal of the international community would be unmeasured. Not even considering Russia

        Just this screech will not be raised yet, but when applied, then the screech will stand that RUSSIA used nuclear weapons. Everything is turned upside down as usual, and all things are! And then prove to the whole pancake to the world that RUSSIA is not a camel!
      5. 0
        8 August 2016 08: 33
        Quote: kuz363
        What other nuclear device? If this were the case, then the squeal of the international community would be immeasurable. Not even considering Russia

        YESTERDAY 112, one expert voiced this version of why Russia didn’t attack Ukraine, it was allegedly afraid that Ukraine could have nuclear weapons, but yesterday considered it nonsense, but to admit that they could have done it didn’t even occur to me. unanimous about the earthquake, no one even put forward any particular versions that it was Russia that experienced some kind of weaponry, which is so strange to say. But the question is, will the Americans be able to have Ukraine? or are all the means good in the fight against Russia? and the question to the PKK, where did the firewood come from regarding the Yao test under mariupol?
        1. +3
          8 August 2016 09: 15
          Quote: activator
          .In the media, by the way, striking unanimity reigns over the earthquake, no one even put forward any particular versions that Russia experienced some kind of child proliferation, which is to say so strange
          Where did you test? Between Mariupol and Volnovakha?
          Quote: activator
          YESTERDAY ON 112, one expert voiced this version of why Russia did not attack Ukraine, allegedly afraid that nuclear weapons could remain in Ukraine
          Ukro experts - they are, yes. Competent in all matters bully And nothing that the return of nuclear weapons to Ukraine was under strict control? Or is it a purely hohlyatsky "stash a couple of warheads, they won't notice"? The mentality, however laughing
          Quote: activator
          ..but yesterday I considered it nonsense
          Correctly counted
          Quote: activator
          omit what they could do it didn’t even occur to him
          It’s right that it didn’t come. What to "make" of? Dried peas? Or do you think someone supplied Ukraine with enriched uranium-235?
          Quote: activator
          Here the question is whether the Americans will have yao Ukraine?
          Here the question is different: do the Americans just want to live if they do THIS. This is already a war, and it seems that the sympathies of the whole world (perhaps, with the exception of the "golden billion") will clearly not be on the side of the States.
          1. +1
            8 August 2016 10: 04
            Quote: Ami du peuple
            Where did you test? Between Mariupol and Volnovakha?

            Did I say somewhere that Russia experienced something? I just expressed surprise that the media did not build delusional versions, that these are the next intrigues of the Kremlin, that again I say weirdly could make versions.
            Quote: Ami du peuple
            Ukro-experts - they are, yes. Competent in all matters And it’s okay that the return of nuclear weapons to Ukraine was under strict control? Or is it a purely hohlyatsky "stash a couple of warheads, they won't notice"? The mentality, however

            I’m just saying that too much an earthquake, a statement, a reaction from the media could remain, or not, I just don’t know what I heard.
            Quote: Ami du peuple
            Correctly counted

            Quote: Ami du peuple
            It’s right that it didn’t come. What to "make" of

            Your advice and praise to me unnecessarily or do you have high self-esteem?
            Quote: Ami du peuple
            Here the question is different: do the Americans just want to live if they do THIS. This is already a war, and it seems that the sympathies of the whole world (perhaps, with the exception of the "golden billion") will clearly not be on the side of the States.
            What Americans want is not a question for me, but about the sympathies of the whole world so when the states were interested in someone’s opinion, often they themselves form this opinion.
          2. +3
            8 August 2016 21: 38
            For the production of NSC, materials alone are not enough. We need very rare specialists in the field of plutonium chemistry, world-class nuclear physicists, and a lot of very sophisticated equipment.
      6. +3
        8 August 2016 09: 54
        Quote: kuz363
        What other nuclear device? If this were the case, then the squeal of the international community would be immeasurable. Not even considering Russia

        The "international community" will never squeal about dill, since dill is their miscarriage.
      7. PKK
        +1
        8 August 2016 16: 21
        Kindergarten.International publicity yells about what she is being ordered. Do not be a child.
    2. +11
      8 August 2016 06: 56
      and only a successful offensive operation by the armies of the republics is able to “stretch” the situation and the Russian people of Donbass from this terrible and destructive military-political quagmire.
      These are the words, yes, to God’s ears! Two and a half years, we’re only talking about this!
      1. PKK
        -6
        8 August 2016 16: 47
        What kind of offensive are you talking about, there are no people at the front, everyone is sitting in the VO on sofas and fighting.
    3. +2
      8 August 2016 07: 01
      Quote: PKK
      The situation is much more serious.
      Here I agree. Snack is necessary, dear, so that such nonsense is not broadcast.
      Quote: Balu
      earthquake of 4.5 points with an epicenter under mariupol, what was it? Why no details?
      What details do you need? Do you seriously believe in the test of Ukrainians YU?
      1. -2
        8 August 2016 08: 35
        Earthquake artificial or natural?
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        2. +11
          8 August 2016 09: 42
          There was official infa that the earthquake occurred in the Mariupol area for the first time in 30 years, a source at a depth of 10 km with a magnitude of 4,8 points. Shocks were felt in Rostov. Why tongue scratching about nuclear testing?
      2. PKK
        -10
        8 August 2016 16: 51
        And what did you have a snack when you blew up under Fokusima. And a tactical nuclear explosion near Donetsk last year? Did you have the same snack ?.
        1. +1
          8 August 2016 17: 12
          Lord, would you see the results of a nuclear test ...
        2. +2
          8 August 2016 19: 40
          Quote: PKK
          when blew up

          What do you think blew up under Fukushima, General?
          So I want to say DB ...
        3. +1
          9 August 2016 10: 37
          Quote: PKK
          And a tactical nuclear explosion near Donetsk last year?

          WHAT? belay
    4. 0
      8 August 2016 08: 04
      It’s unfortunate that you were bombarded.
      The sense of humor / sarcasm among local users is completely absent
      1. 0
        9 August 2016 12: 02
        Humor and sarcasm are the exact opposite. smile
    5. +2
      8 August 2016 08: 07
      "Space no longer pour ..."
    6. +3
      8 August 2016 09: 55
      Do you have any idea what a nuclear explosion is in a densely populated area? And how much materials and work do you need to collect at least one charge?
    7. +1
      8 August 2016 10: 47
      Quote: PKK
      The situation is much more serious. Yesterday, the Ukrainians successfully tested a nuclear device at a test site near Mariupol. A prototype OTR "Thunder" is being tested
      ? General Director of SE "NPO" Pavlograd Chemical Plant "(which together with KB" Yuzhnoye "is working on OTRK" Grom "), Doctor of Technical Sciences Leonid Shiman literally lashed out the other day that the completion of the first stage of the project is scheduled for autumn.
      Then what tests and why?
      1. +5
        8 August 2016 12: 16
        Quote: nadezhiva
        Then what tests and why?
        I will say this: a test on the adequacy of visitors to the VO forum. As it turned out, many do not pass this test.
        1. +2
          8 August 2016 17: 18
          Ugh, the question was what tests took place near Mariupol, if the end of only 1 stage of the "Thunder" project should happen (that is, not a fact yet) only in the fall.
          Ukrainians fool around, giving wishful thinking? Or is it hot summer - is the grass good?
    8. 0
      8 August 2016 16: 50
      Oh my god, smoking dill is contagious ...
      Quote: PKK
      You can add. The situation is much more serious. Yesterday the Ukrainians conducted a successful test of a nuclear device at a test site near Mariupol. A prototype OTR "Thunder" is being tested, built with sponsors' money at a new plant near Dnepropetrovsk. By the end of the year, the Ukrainians will have both delivery vehicles and warheads. on new technologies for overcoming missile defense. They will have to make a sufficient number of products. In connection with this, they will have to change the tactics and strategy of the War.
      1. +1
        8 August 2016 19: 15
        Quote: dmi.pris
        Oh my god, smoking dill is contagious ...
        Quote: PKK
        You can add. The situation is much more serious. Yesterday the Ukrainians conducted a successful test of a nuclear device at a test site near Mariupol. A prototype OTR "Thunder" is being tested, built with sponsors' money at a new plant near Dnepropetrovsk. By the end of the year, the Ukrainians will have both delivery vehicles and warheads. on new technologies for overcoming missile defense. They will have to make a sufficient number of products. In connection with this, they will have to change the tactics and strategy of the War.


        Tree sticks! What nuclear weapons? They can't make tanks. Neither myself nor Thailand. The contract was ripped off. Delivery is generally fun. You can, of course, screw it to "Point U" with electrical tape, but it's not a fact that it will fly laughing
    9. 0
      8 August 2016 20: 23
      I am ashamed of your muttering and shamming, your superior hvo!
    10. 0
      8 August 2016 21: 01
      built with sponsor money at a new plant near Dnepropetrovsk
      A new plant in Ukraine, especially for the production of nuclear weapons. I haven't heard more stupidity for a long time, even from the lips of ukronovye. One phrase "new plant in Ukraine" is worth it. Nuclear weapons are a whole industry, a huge branch of industry, which by definition cannot exist in Ukraine. They could have been planted by sworn friends, but in this case it is a colossal international scandal, and they will not dare to entrust the grenade to the monkey. In addition, a nuclear explosion, even a tactical weapon, is perfectly detected from the other side of the earth, not just ten kilometers away.
    11. 0
      9 August 2016 20: 53
      I do not know what you smoke, but you urgently need to quit !!!
  3. +9
    8 August 2016 06: 21
    Guys, be careful in the Crimea, ukrov’s head is boiling, provocations are being prepared. Armored personnel carriers and tanks did not knowingly drove to the border.
    1. +6
      8 August 2016 07: 27
      We won’t be the first to start.
    2. 0
      9 August 2016 22: 54
      Thanks bro! Do not relax.
  4. +7
    8 August 2016 06: 21
    Having begun the escalation of the war in the Donbass, the Kiev junta will sign a ruthless sentence for itself. Bander - underground !.
    1. +10
      8 August 2016 10: 06
      Quote: PValery53
      Having begun the escalation of the war in the Donbass, the Kiev junta will sign a ruthless sentence for itself. Bander - underground !.

      If after yesterday's attack on the Crimean border by the "militants" the Kremlin gave an immediate ultimatum response, I would agree with you. But, apparently, "portraying Versailles" is already our tradition, and if the junta starts and is supported by our numerous "partners", then Novorossia and I will have to shit. For the third year, the Vangovatels have been burying the junta in VO, but it still does not die.
  5. -1
    8 August 2016 06: 25
    I’ll express my opinion: before the end of this year Ukraine will cease to exist as a single state. Its territory, by agreement between Russia, the USA and the EU, will go to Poland, Hungary and Russia. I can’t understand - where will Kiev and the region around it go?
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    3. +3
      8 August 2016 06: 44
      Quote: Dora2014
      I’ll express my opinion: before the end of this year Ukraine will cease to exist as a single state. Its territory, by agreement between Russia, the USA and the EU, will go to Poland, Hungary and Russia. I can’t understand - where will Kiev and the region around it go?

      Russia is unlikely to like this option, so they will avoid this kind of event.
      Imagine how then the buffer zone between NATO and our country will decrease, somewhere it will disappear altogether.
    4. -4
      8 August 2016 06: 54
      To the United States with the installation of military bases.
    5. -11
      8 August 2016 14: 22
      Wait. There will be nothing at all before the US election. No arrangements. There is no alternative to Minsk (Obama and Kremlin Administration)
      And Hillary and Trump will not change the US policy especially. And no agreements of the ss of the Russian Federation regarding the partitions of Ukraine will be maintained. The Russian Federation lost its buffer zone (even not already loyal) without a fight. Sense to share? Ukraine USA is interesting just the whole. Divided it is unprofitable. So her role as an instrument will be small.
      In general, it’s enough to campaign for the collapse / partition of my country. Nowhere do we want to share and divide. There already 2 areas believed ... so even the Russian Federation did not recognize them. Gray area.
      1. +1
        9 August 2016 18: 59
        Quote: Retvizan
        Gray area.

        The gray zone is the one where all sorts of tornadoes are trying to justify. Go amiable forest.
    6. 0
      8 August 2016 20: 30
      "Mother of Russian cities".
  6. +2
    8 August 2016 06: 31
    I didn’t ride with the Olympics .. Now, ukrov, the Americans are knocking out .. Yes, and it should be noted, the new ambassador of Russia, Ukraine refused to accept ..
  7. +4
    8 August 2016 06: 31
    Sorry, but why the infa with a breakthrough through the state border of the Russian Federation and why are the media silent?
    1. +1
      8 August 2016 06: 40
      Quote: Canecat
      Sorry, but why the infa with a breakthrough through the state border of the Russian Federation and why are the media silent?

      But it is not clear who it is and what it is. Now they will take alive one of the remnants of the gang and present it to the world, then they will all say. The main thing you do not worry.
      1. +1
        8 August 2016 08: 17
        Calm like a boa constrictor. It makes no sense to present them to the world.
    2. +1
      8 August 2016 06: 49
      Yes, in general, they wrote something yesterday, the media, that is. On the other hand, the Poles also wrote about the new Russian armies on the border with Ukraine, whose location, as it were, hints at the goals that these armies will solve. Moreover, they were created slowly and demonstratively, as always, so that later, again, as always, "imperceptibly", to fulfill their tasks.
    3. +18
      8 August 2016 07: 50
      Good morning. Yes, there was a border crossing yesterday. There are one border guard killed and several wounded from Russia. There are 5 or 6 people killed on that side. In Armyansk and Dzhankoy introduced enhanced military patrolling. A friend called me yesterday asking where I was but I was in Simferopol. Today I’m going there. I’ll tell you the news.
  8. +1
    8 August 2016 06: 35
    Pig-eaters in no way! Get it again to the fullest, to drown in your own shit!
  9. +3
    8 August 2016 06: 35
    If it starts, then God sees we did not want this. Russia is not the same, and Novorossia has become stronger and matured to full-scale action. Not long torment the old woman in high voltage wires. I think so .
    1. +2
      8 August 2016 07: 15
      I also think so ... you have to be a suicide to seriously affect the Russians in their land
      1. -9
        8 August 2016 15: 05
        It is not clear when the lie, and when the truth.
        You need to make up your mind somehow, and first scratch one thing, then the other, soon something else will most likely come up with something new.

        1. 0
          10 August 2016 12: 10
          And what about the cons of the video "Putin about Crimea and Ukraine"? Do you disagree with his words? Or with my question? In my opinion, the question suggests itself: Why have all the issues been resolved long ago, but suddenly it turned out that they were not? It was not me who said that, but Putin. What is the essence of minus players?
    2. +6
      8 August 2016 12: 14
      Quote: vfqjh
      Yes, and New Russia has matured and matured to full-blown action


      By the way, a new monument has been erected there to our "humconvoys" (click):
      1. -1
        8 August 2016 17: 14
        Some kind of layout, even without an engine ...
        1. 0
          8 August 2016 20: 34
          What did you want? Engine demobilization? In the middle of the war? Ho ho ho ...
        2. 0
          9 August 2016 21: 01
          they will correct the economy a bit and put something beautiful
  10. +4
    8 August 2016 06: 39
    nothing will happen, while the DPR and LPR are still suffering, yes, provocations and not even frail ones have a place to be, but this is a sluggish war and only, you need to drag the time to the end, until winter, in Russia, too, are not suckers in the General Staff, but full-blown war is primarily a political and strategic failure ...
  11. +3
    8 August 2016 06: 41
    The states and the EU unanimously harshly condemn the actions of the republics, transferring all responsibility to Russia, as well as adding additional sanctions to the existing list.

    Obviously, this is the main goal. The states and Europe already do not give a damn about how this adventure can end for Ukraine. The main thing is once again to try to completely discredit Russia and make it an outcast country. Scumble West, scum Ukrainian regime is all against Russia exclusively.
  12. +5
    8 August 2016 07: 13
    Citizens with Ukrainian passports themselves will never sweep away the Nazi Kiev junta. The mentality is not the same. The principle "my house is on the edge" is dominant there. So the development of the situation can only proceed along the path of armed escalation. What has the flourishing and kind Ukraine turned into ...
    1. +4
      8 August 2016 08: 50
      Share your mentality, otherwise we won’t be able to protect and rebuild the Donbass without yours!
      Saltykov-Shchedrin - "My hut is on the edge, I don't know anything - that's the motto of every Molchalin" and even this expression is historically interpreted incorrectly.

      MY HUT FROM THE EDGE
      Incorrect interpretation: "Stand back, leave me alone, I know nothing." This is what we say today, but before those people whose huts stood on the edge of the village had a special responsibility - they were the first to face any danger, be it an attack of enemies, a forest fire, a spring flood of a river or a rapidly rushing herd of horses. It was they who were to fight back. Therefore, “the most daring and strong people lived in the huts with the edge”. Choosing a place for a house on the edge of the village, his owner seemed to say to his fellow villagers: "I will protect the peace of all." Readiness for self-sacrifice has always been characteristic of the Russian people, which is embodied in this proverb.
    2. -13
      8 August 2016 14: 26
      Quote: avia12005
      Citizens with Ukrainian passports themselves will never sweep away the Nazi Kiev junta. The mentality is not the same. The principle "my house is on the edge" is dominant there

      Why? I’ll go to the polls and vote for those whom I consider necessary.
      First of all, I certainly do not believe in the term "Nazi junta". Even just a "junta" well does not fit. The oligarchy is the same as in the Russian Federation.
      1. +4
        8 August 2016 16: 46
        Quote: Retvizan
        The oligarchy is the same as in the Russian Federation.

        you put a = sign between the chocolate factory bucket and our Vova ??? fool ..... like both business oligarchs ???
  13. +50
    8 August 2016 07: 23
    Despite the fact that I am a female, I have brains. And I will tell you that somewhere very deep down, all Russians are waiting for Ukraine to go completely crazy. In order to turn off the brakes in response. Remember there was a war and there was a retreat? then a long wait for the order: “forward!” And then no one was able to stop the offensive, for the Russians did not seem to feel the wounds and wanted only one thing, to tear out this evil with their teeth.
    It’s a pity no one takes seriously the features of our mentality. But it’s not in vain that our symbol is a bear. Bear, in principle, is a peaceful animal, it has an ulterior motive only with teeth and claws. And if you annoy him, you can no longer escape from him. to stand or cuddle with him - after a certain trait there is NO MEANING.
    Apparently once a century we Russians should clean up. Of course, many will tell me that you are a woman and you don’t understand ... But Russian women gave their husbands, children, fathers to the wars. They crossed them and sent them to the holy war without flinching. And I will not flinch in my place.
    1. +1
      10 August 2016 12: 01
      Scout 8 August 2016 07: 23

      ..crossing them sent to the holy war without flinching

      "There has not been a single war in history, the causes and goals of which were not presented by the instigators and their learned lackeys in a perverted, falsified form."

      Soviet military encyclopedia, T.6, p. 554
  14. +5
    8 August 2016 07: 53
    Comrade Commander-in-Chief, act! And we will support.
    1. +5
      8 August 2016 10: 05
      Now on this street a board with Manerheim, the blocker of Leningrad, hangs.
    2. -33
      8 August 2016 12: 16
      Is Svevo Sina ready for a warrior? Is your house ready to be lost under the bombing? Or on TV you’ll see how people die-!
      1. +9
        8 August 2016 16: 11
        Leo, better sail to Africa for the holidays. And now people, including children, do not die under the bombing ??? I have no son, I have two daughters, but I think it will come to an OCCASION, I can also myself, including Lev from AK-74. What are you on the site for, for communication or for provocations? I watched Y. Ozerov's "Battle for Moscow" at the weekend. So there is a moment when women are digging anti-tank ditches, and one type, too, Leo tried to take them with panic, and what did they do to him later. Look, if childhood and adolescence were wasted now, it may not hurt.
      2. +4
        8 August 2016 16: 31
        Quote: Bonifacij
        Is Svevo Sina ready for a warrior? Is your house ready to be lost under the bombing? Or on TV you’ll see how people die-!

        Man, do you want to scare someone here with a war? I won’t be surprised if every second resident of this forum knows how to behave on both sides of the trigger ... And this is not the point, the point is that war (IMHO) is inevitable.
      3. +3
        8 August 2016 19: 29
        The fact of the matter is that they are ready. Not only his son. But to go there yourself. In addition, we are not offered a choice. Or they will have to go to war, or there will be wives and daughters ... But they will simply shoot us. Better to go to war. House to lose, maybe life. But do not let your Spirit break.
        A strong one is not one who is not afraid, but who knows how to step over his fear.
        1. +2
          8 August 2016 19: 54
          Quote: kvarfax
          The fact of the matter is that they are ready. Not only his son. But to go there yourself. In addition, we are not offered a choice. Or they will have to go to war, or there will be wives and daughters ... But they will simply shoot us. Better to go to war. House to lose, maybe life. But do not let your Spirit break.
          A strong one is not one who is not afraid, but who knows how to step over his fear.

          Here I am about that. True, I understand that there will be little sense in my "hard over 40", but still ...
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      4. +1
        8 August 2016 20: 39
        I understood: you are in Latvian grunt! Will their home be lost under American occupation? Poor pants, every den den is dirty, you don’t have time to dry.
      5. 0
        9 August 2016 11: 47
        Unfortunately, there is no son yet. My home is Russia. In principle, there is no TV and is not needed. And the wife herself will serve cartridges.
    3. 0
      8 August 2016 20: 50
      The Commander-in-Chief today should make a statement, telling the world all the points in this article, with a warning and a warning, so to speak so that all viewers forget about the Olympics for a while and so that 60% would stop watching it. And so that the echo of his statement stood in his ears for a long time and so that subsequent squeals of the West would no longer have any effect. Putin's silence must end.
      (Note: This could be a resonant statement by the presidents of Russia, Iran and Turkey - it would be ideal!).
      I repeat: Putin can no longer be silent. Articles of VO and Trump's acquaintance with their content are no longer enough!
    4. +1
      8 August 2016 23: 00
      I imagine how you will support from the sofa
  15. -3
    8 August 2016 08: 09
    Geeks banderlog still decided to fulfill their dirty plan and use dirty ammunition stuffed with nuclear stuffing am . And earlier I wrote that ZVO is in the increased BG. And just like that, the military district will not be kept in BG !!!
    That's what I wrote about earlier.
    May the VO community forgive me, but again I’m off topic ... Troops in western Russia are on high alert
    A number of formations and military units of the Western Military District (ZVO) are given a high degree of combat readiness as part of a command and staff training, said Igor Muginov, head of the ZVO press service.// tvzvezda.ru/news/forces/content/201608041534-97po.htm
    Something is not calm in those parts what
    1. +3
      8 August 2016 16: 36
      Quote: gg.na
      The geeks of banderlog still decided to fulfill their dirty plan and use dirty ammunition stuffed with nuclear stuffing ... Troops in western Russia are on high alert


      Dear, do not tear your soul! To bring troops to the highest degree of combat readiness (i.e., FULL) means: to mobilize (or to equip for military readiness of constant readiness), to carry out combat coordination and proceed to combat (operational) missions. Nobody just, in advance, does not bring troops into full combat readiness.
      And in the exercises, the troops are brought to the highest levels of combat readiness with restrictions (a couple of very significant).
      And the second thing. In Ukraine, they have never developed and produced elements of nuclear weapons. To do this "from scratch" requires decades, to have trillions of dollars, to create appropriate technologies and industry.
      We will not talk about dirty nuclear bombs. Today it is a fake - humanity does not know this.
  16. +6
    8 August 2016 08: 17
    Something full-scale is unlikely to start. A third of the atoshniks are not waiting for demobilization. Contractors are lured by the fact that "there will be no more war." Yes, and "suddenly" will not work in any way - after regular postrelushki.
    And finally, Obama-peacekeeper three months left. Where already at the curtain?
    1. +13
      8 August 2016 08: 22
      Quote: baudolino
      And finally, Obama-peacekeeper three months left. Where already at the curtain?

      Here in the curtain, a colleague, Monkey and can naukit. request He has nothing to lose, and some kind of position he will receive in some sort of TNC. hi
      1. +1
        8 August 2016 12: 22
        Quote: vovanpain
        Here in the curtain, a colleague, Monkey and can naukit.


        Off topic, but I think it will be interesting: in Mexico they discovered "a fairy from another ??? world". The photo is very similar to the ancestor of the "blackest", don't you think? (cry):
  17. +2
    8 August 2016 08: 33
    It has long been time to give Kiev a light.
    Only the patience of LDNR saves the APU from defeat. They have proved this more than once that they can give a fitting rebuff.
    It is a pity that the Kiev authorities cannot understand this.
    1. 0
      8 August 2016 08: 38
      Quote: Mr Shrek
      It is a pity that the Kiev authorities cannot understand this.

      Can! He simply turns a blind eye to this because there is a need to destroy as many of the people of Ukraine as possible, preferably "- Until the last Ukrainian!"
    2. +3
      8 August 2016 10: 05
      Where will you find so many soldiers to occupy such territories and fight a quarter of a million army? If necessary, the APU can simply fling meat.
  18. +9
    8 August 2016 08: 41
    Near the borders of Crimea, both regular units of the Armed Forces and all kinds of gangs accumulate. DRG broke through !!! Although not completely, but went deep into the Crimea!
    What would our beloved Israel do in this case? Correctly! I wouldn’t leave stone upon stone from all this riffraff! And they put a large and thick cut bolt on the world community ...
  19. +4
    8 August 2016 08: 55
    Quote: PKK
    ...Yesterday Ukrainians have successfully tested a nuclear device at the test site near Mariupol. A prototype of OTR is being run in ... By the end of the year, Ukrainians will have both delivery vehicles and warheads. Moreover, with new technologies to overcome missile defense .... In this regard will have to change the tactics, strategy of the War.
    First: Regarding the tests of nuclear weapons - by posting similar statements on the forum, let's reference, otherwise it’s a chatter and a provocation, , and for this you can not only forget the way to VO, but also run into extremely serious troubles.

    Second: What kind of change of tactics and strategy in the war are you talking about? Are we fighting someone?

    It looks like Railroad Day and the heat on Monday did the trick.
  20. -2
    8 August 2016 09: 13
    Good article.
  21. +1
    8 August 2016 09: 26
    Quote: Platonitch
    About 4 o’clock in the morning, on August 7, on the border of the Kherson region with the Republic of Crimea, in the area of ​​the settlement Armyansk there was a “breakthrough” of the Ukrainian DRG on the territory of the peninsula. The group consisted of more than 10 militants and tried to pass unnoticed near the checkpoint and military unit of Armyansk, and then delve into the peninsula, which it failed. An exchange of fire occurred between border guards and militants, as a result of which one Russian border guard was killed and three were injured. According to eyewitnesses, up to 6 militants died on the part of the Ukrainian military formation, while some could have escaped the persecution inland of Crimean territory. The situation is actually out of the ordinary and really threatening the national security of the Russian Federation. Today there are more than a dozen fighters, tomorrow a couple of armored personnel carriers or infantry fighting vehicles ... And what about tomorrow? “Tornadoes” from Genichesk will decide to have fun?


    I'm not catching up with something !? And why do I find out about such things by chance, in between in the article about something completely different, on VO? And not on Channel One, to the music of "Get Up, Great Country", to reports on the infliction of massive retaliatory strikes against the positions of the militants on the other side, using aviation and artillery, on the capture and delivery of Islyamov in chains to Moscow, on the numerous and most tragic unfortunates incidents with American military instructors and CIA agents throughout Ukraine?
    1. +2
      8 August 2016 14: 32
      Because we are not at war with Ukraine. You want to fight, you are welcome in the DNI, there is application.
  22. -1
    8 August 2016 09: 41
    Why did Ukrainian militants infiltrate the peninsula? Where are the valiant border guards? Now wait for problems?
    1. +1
      8 August 2016 10: 14
      Shah! No one penetrated anywhere. Nowadays, problems must be expected constantly.
  23. +4
    8 August 2016 10: 38
    About the article. As my teachers would say: "Blood, g.v.n.o., sand and sugar." Now the APU is advancing, then it is preparing for the defense. About Armyansk, generally relaying rumors.
    1. -3
      8 August 2016 11: 07
      Exactly. And the pretentious speeches about how the VSN will valiantly kill the Ukrov crowd were also very jarring. Apparently the author of the proverb "Wouldn't you brag about the army walking" did not hear ... well, or I really want to comment on the next round of the war ...
  24. +3
    8 August 2016 10: 46
    Well dear, how they reviled Strelkov, but he was right! A war on the doorstep with a strengthened enemy. Dear Donbass people, tell the Kremlin that you are compatriots of Russians in the near abroad and ask, no - demand! protection! Attach the cowardly Sebenaum "chitroplanovtsy" to the wall, you have nothing to lose!
  25. +1
    8 August 2016 10: 51
    It’s not long to wait for the hour “Ch”, and only a successful offensive operation of the republic’s armies can “pull out” the situation and the Russian people of Donbass from this terrible and destructive military-political quagmire.

    This would be the best option, taking into account the support of the RF Armed Forces from the Crimea
  26. +3
    8 August 2016 11: 04
    And in the Mariupol earthquake, according to experts, there should not be such an impulse, the maximum force should not exceed 2,8-3 points, and not 5,7 points in fact. So not everything is there and just ...

    Experts just know that seismologists simply distinguish an earthquake from an underground / ground nuclear warhead.
    But according to the "experts", yes, "... not everything is there and just ..."
  27. +1
    8 August 2016 11: 19
    For some reason, speaking of a possible military conflict in the Donbass, everyone rests with a pointer to Mariupol and its assault

    It looks more logical to defeat the "Donetsk" group of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and move the front away from Donetsk,
    kilometers so a hundred.
    The Ukrainian leadership is beginning to "understand" something after getting it in its brains.

    The outcome of the impasse is possible only as a result of another defeat of the Armed Forces.
  28. +2
    8 August 2016 11: 52
    Mariupol is the same territory of the outskirts, why then they write about some kind of encirclement of the city by the troops of the Armed Forces?
  29. -14
    8 August 2016 11: 58
    Interesting. from where to the same area of ​​dengi, people of armament for the content of such a bolsoi army
    1. +13
      8 August 2016 12: 06
      Patamutsto plague a lot of the corner of the big country of Ukraine.
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  30. -16
    8 August 2016 12: 14
    zalatoi naverno ugol-ctobi soderzats armiju v 100 celovek. Samamu ne smesno?
    1. +3
      8 August 2016 12: 23
      It is ridiculous to read your regular delirium, guest. The number of BCH is less than 50 thousand people.
      For comparison, Dzhokhar Dudaev in 1994 g. Had the armed forces of approx. 50 thousand people, including armored, missile and artillery units. The population of Chechnya at that time was 600 thousand people.
      1. +7
        8 August 2016 14: 26
        zalatoi naverno ugo


        And this colleague is the advantage of being Russian and not a limitation: there is money and brains and the state and weapons and conscience and courage.

        But you certainly do not understand
        1. +2
          8 August 2016 16: 20
          A colleague, and he is right. Even aviation, any kind, and L-39 was available from Dudaev. The truth was lost in one air raid.
      2. 0
        8 August 2016 15: 36
        Quote: dumpy15
        It is ridiculous to read your regular delirium, guest. The number of BCH is less than 50 thousand people.
        For comparison, Dzhokhar Dudaev in 1994 g. Had the armed forces of approx. 50 thousand people, including armored, missile and artillery units. The population of Chechnya at that time was 600 thousand people.

        How loud it sounds: "armored, missile and artillery units." Could you give us the number? It's like with the Ukrainian fleet - the name is there, but there are no ships.
        1. +2
          8 August 2016 18: 01
          The Ukrainian fleet is bullshit, and the Chechen gadyushnik in 1994, after the autumn assault on Grozny by Gantimirov, plus army depots, was a reality. See the d / f "Parade in Grozny", for example.
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    3. +1
      8 August 2016 17: 34
      Lyova, I look with punctuation that you have everything in order. If you know the rules for placing punctuation marks, then why pretend to be a "vegetable" and SPECIALLY make grammatical mistakes, albeit in Latin? It probably happens involuntarily? You need to train better.
  31. +2
    8 August 2016 12: 25
    Quote: Expelling Liberoids
    By the way, when I wrote whether the anthrax was not the intrigues of our "sworn friends", I was almost eaten.


    The option that washed the hundred year old cattle cemeteries does not occur to you?
  32. +4
    8 August 2016 12: 41
    Quote: Bonifacij
    Interesting. from where to the same area of ​​dengi, people of armament for the content of such a bolsoi army

    Another thing is interesting - where does such a small Latvia have money to support its microarmy, western weapons and other soldiers who are recovering in flower beds? This is what should bother you, not Donbass.
  33. 0
    8 August 2016 13: 10
    Quote: larand
    The "international community" will never squeal about dill, since dill is their miscarriage.

    As soon as it touches money or security, how else it will be.
  34. +2
    8 August 2016 13: 20
    Quote: larand
    Quote: PValery53
    Having begun the escalation of the war in the Donbass, the Kiev junta will sign a ruthless sentence for itself. Bander - underground !.

    If after yesterday's attack on the Crimean border by the "militants" the Kremlin gave an immediate ultimatum response, I would agree with you. But, apparently, "portraying Versailles" is already our tradition, and if the junta starts and is supported by our numerous "partners", then Novorossia and I will have to shit. For the third year, the Vangovatels have been burying the junta in VO, but it still does not die.


    you still have to give a discount on gas. Stsuki here and there (in the Kremlin).
  35. 0
    8 August 2016 13: 40
    Before the election of the US condom, nothing will happen.
    Or it will, but to distract the country from problems.
  36. +6
    8 August 2016 13: 43
    You say that shozh vi. Is there any Minsk by number? And what about Petrak the President, recognized as our guarantor? Are the oligarchs friendly, our friends? And the author, it seems, is starting a war. Ay, ay, ay, how bad it is. Surkov, “you understand,” the whole world is trying to build in the Donbass, and now they are going to beat from the Crimea and go to Kuev. "Pacifism" to "imperialism" needs more. And you, the author, well, just like Strelkov, keep moving forward, against the enemy, and against Kuev. But Srelkov is being eaten here, of course, he is the same thoughts, , but voiced early. Therefore, first you need to ask the "bosses" and write after, hesitating with the general line of our beloved and dear party EP (Eat Russia).
  37. +2
    8 August 2016 14: 04
    The second option Denisov will be simply indispensable for the further advancement of the army of New Russia from the Donbass to the Crimean border.


    The author, in his assumptions, did not take into account that the largest Zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant in Europe was located in that direction, and if hostilities move there, then the probability of a second Chernobyl is likely if the economy of the nuclear power plant is destroyed. Therefore, the Kremlin probably predicted this scenario and decided to freeze the conflict within its current borders.
    1. -3
      8 August 2016 14: 13
      Or maybe they themselves will undermine it, they have wanted for a long time, but then they replaced the Boeing. Who cares who destroys the station. America will only be glad (fewer Slavs will remain). And, naturally, it will conquer that it is Putin!
      Was there something 2008? Isn't the election campaign in the USA? Whom did Baruch put there as a parrot? Obama?
      And now he is seeing Obama off.
    2. 0
      8 August 2016 20: 42
      And to defrost Zaporizhzhya NPP within the borders of a special operation.
  38. -10
    8 August 2016 14: 39
    I look at another of the many "If tomorrow ..." and immediately conclusions - well, we always .. we, as always .. we already ... and so on.
    Firstly, the campaign for the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in itself is delusional. Where do these opinions come from? Secondly, this is the territory of Ukraine (and you yourself are campaigning here, they say, a civil war). The conclusions here are written - the impression is that the Mariupol residents themselves are waiting not to wait to see Zakharchenko. Have they ever been asked?
    Incidentally, they were sent to reinforce our Odessa residents. And in them I believe even more than in the Mariupol themselves.
    Campaigns for hot action are needed to warm the audience. To maintain interest. So it’s about to begin, it’s flaring up.
    And they do not hesitate to write that the Russian Federation should be at war in general. Hey, what about "not succumb to provocations" and "World War 3". There is a part of the Odessa region landing, here is Mariupol. And then we pretend to be smart in response to the hysteria of the Ukrainian media about the "aggressiveness of the Kremlin." Yes, you do not hesitate to write your plans yourself. This is still not given in quality. And here a lot can be obtained to incite hatred and enmity.
    Once again - before the election (and after) it is unlikely that anything will change. There is no alternative to Minsk (Minsk invented something from the Kremlin on the knee)
    You have to wait until the election (USA). There Hillary or Trump will say what needs to be done. Since both countries (like the whole world) are governed by the same principle, you need to wait.
  39. +7
    8 August 2016 14: 47
    Dear Latvian friend, in the Donetsk region since the times of the USSR, there were some of the largest storage bases for armored vehicles and weapons depots, as well as several state-owned ammunition factories worked, equipment and weapons from the Western Group of arms were removed to these warehouses and bases. I remember very well how in 89-91 full trains with equipment came to the side of Snezhnoye. And about the personnel, almost all the men of Donbass served in the SA, as well as many military pensioners who passed through Afghanistan and Chechnya, then returned to their homeland Donbass, there in the Baltics and western Ukraine it was considered worthy to "get out of service", and in Donbass no one would even give such a hand, let alone take a good job.
    1. +5
      8 August 2016 16: 18
      Quote: L10n77
      Dear Latvian friend, in the Donetsk region since the times of the USSR, there were some of the largest storage bases for armored vehicles and weapons depots, as well as several state-owned ammunition factories worked, equipment and weapons from the Western Group of arms were removed to these warehouses and bases. I remember very well how in 89-91 full trains with equipment came to the side of Snezhnoye. And about the personnel, almost all the men of Donbass served in the SA, as well as many military pensioners who passed through Afghanistan and Chechnya, then returned to their homeland Donbass, there in the Baltics and western Ukraine it was considered worthy to "get out of service", and in Donbass no one would even give such a hand, let alone take a good job.

      Well, first of all, over the past 25 years, a lot of things have changed. For example, ammunition storage bases in Artyomovsk, Novobogdanovka, Svatovo burned out (this is all in the Donetsk and Lugansk regions).
      Secondly, of the ammunition production enterprises in the LPR / DPR, only the Lugansk cartridge plant remained.
      In addition, you have a poor idea of ​​the volume of missiles / mines / shells consumed during intense combat operations. They are huge. At one time, we only shot a train of shells during exercises - in 2 weeks! And this war is not in vain dubbed the war of large calibers.
      So, there is no way to do without Voentorg.
  40. +1
    8 August 2016 15: 26
    only the physical destruction of koryloryly and their leaders, preferably in the full complement of families, will give the necessary result of peace enforcement, you shouldn’t agree with the korylorys, they should not be taken prisoner (except for obtaining timely information with subsequent immediate liquidation) they only need to be destroyed
  41. PKK
    0
    8 August 2016 17: 17
    Quote: alexej123
    AY, I’ll also be able to myself, including Leo, to fall out of the AK-74. Why are you on the site, for communication or for

    Doubts are taken, usually when it bites, then it is too late.
  42. +6
    8 August 2016 17: 17
    Every day in Novorosia, her defenders, courageous loyal guys, die.
    Let's honor their memory!
    We honor our children who died on 08.08.2008/XNUMX/XNUMX in the fight against fascist-Georgian-piin.dosu dishonesty.
    Eternal papa defenders of the Russian world.
  43. 0
    8 August 2016 18: 06
    Thanks to the author for the explanations on carpenter's. Talked with a prominent figure of the republic after the murder of Mozgovoy so he bluntly pointed to a Jew. But now it's not up to the showdown, the main thing is to restrain the escalation. why hold back? You should have seen how much the Ukrainians moved the checkpoint on the border with the republic and how stupidly the OSCE and the "doctors without borders" are silent, who set up toilets in Majorsk, which are now 2 km away from the congestion, crossing the checkpoint. I don’t remember at least one place or settlements that the republic squeezed out from the Armed Forces of Ukraine Everywhere there are concessions after Debaltsevo. It is urgent to build bunkers and bunkers on the lines of a possible breakthrough, use concrete plants for the production of gaps and cook hedgehogs in tank-hazardous areas. The cynicism of stubborn persuasions and reason cannot be broken.
  44. +1
    8 August 2016 19: 09
    Three interesting, but not brought to a logical conclusion options for the development of the situation in the Donbas described in the publication "Izvestia" the head of the Ukrainian branch of the Institute of CIS countries Denis Denisov.


    I will also impose on the "xspers":
    1 of course, the militia will be able to repel the offensive by the APU, but what will it give?
    2 A counter-offensive with the restoration of positions is possible, but again, is it the point?
    3 The complete defeat of the APU in my humble opinion is unrealistic.

    Consequently, the defeat of the APU remains in any one (two) areas. With the advance into the territory occupied by the APU.
  45. +2
    8 August 2016 20: 27
    Today, no one forgot what day? 08.08. In South Ossetia, Georgian pseudo-warriors made a breakthrough and got a snot. But didn’t they forget how the liberal echoes screeched these days in defense of ssukoshvili? Now, if the ukram begins, the first thing that needs to be done is to demolish the head of our fifth column , sinking in an echo, rain, jellyfish, etc. With the root to tear up this infection ...
    1. 0
      8 August 2016 21: 17
      And those who do not obey - to plant (at stake)!
  46. 0
    8 August 2016 21: 13
    Thugs are completely riddled, it's time to give them the heat - the training launch of a ballistic missile will gladly cool many heads!
  47. +1
    8 August 2016 22: 04
    As for me, the ideal option would be to strike Ukropithekia from the Crimea. The front against the DPR-LPR would have crumbled immediately. There are practically no troops outside the zone of the so-called ATO. And then, after a short interval, an offensive from the Republics. Broken rear, running "heroes". "Kiev is our")) drinks
    1. 0
      8 August 2016 22: 11
      Another landing in Odessa, and the command of the so-called APU is broken and broken apart!
  48. 0
    8 August 2016 22: 34
    Why are official mass media silent about the attempted breakthrough ??? Is it because there wasn’t any breakthrough, but there was a purely domestic quarrel between drunken military men using weapons?
  49. 0
    8 August 2016 23: 27
    Well, if the MayDowns completely demolished the tower and some offended minorities from Crimea are impatient to go for an assault, this will be their last mistake.
  50. 0
    9 August 2016 00: 22
    "At about 4 o'clock in the morning, on August 7, on the border of the Kherson region with the Republic of Crimea, near the settlement of Armyansk, a" breakthrough "of the Ukrainian DRG into the territory of the peninsula occurred. The group consisted of more than 10 militants and tried to pass unnoticed near the checkpoint and military part of Armyansk, and then delve into the territory of the peninsula, which she failed. There was a shootout between the border guards and the militants, as a result of which one Russian border guard was killed and three were wounded ... "
    He wrote either a provocateur or a moron. Was there from 2.00 on 07.08.2016 to 12.20 on 08.08.2016. Police action, plan "Intercept", to detain armed deserters. Where are the "masses" of the wounded and "killed"? "Miraculously escaped death and injury," the aunt who fired at, somehow penetrated at night, bypassing at least two lines of cordon into neutral territory, stuffed with snipers on both sides armed with night vision devices and thermal imagers. Those who served, do you understand what this is about?
    If this is not an argument, then where are the official statements of the Foreign Ministry of both parties? Nonsense with one goal to earn ratings, or to quarrel Ukrainians with Russians, but real - today the puncture is on the Russian side
    PS I won’t even read the comments, they got Natsik from both sides.
  51. 0
    9 August 2016 08: 27
    Unfortunately, there is no need to wait for the offensive of Bandera’s army yet. Unfortunately - because the abscess remains. On the other hand, the defeat of the nationalists is not such a difficult matter, no matter how much the “best army in Europe” flaunts its “invincibility.” Another thing is that over these 25 years, the “second France” has degraded so much that its restoration requires multi-billion dollar investments, which we cannot provide yet.
  52. 0
    9 August 2016 17: 53
    ukroThe enemy will be defeated and Victory will be ours. Just don't be afraid of breaking it. For Our Cause is RIGHT!
  53. 0
    9 August 2016 18: 28
    The TASS statement is sorely missed. TASS is authorized to declare...... The Russian Federation is introducing its tank regiments into the territory of the LDPR, on the line of contact with the Ukrainian Armed Forces, to protect civilians. In the event of a repetition of shelling by the Ukrainian Armed Forces, to Kyiv.
  54. 0
    10 August 2016 05: 34
    “...There is very little time left to wait for the “H” hour, and only a successfully carried out offensive operation of the armies of the republics is capable of “pulling” the situation and the Russian people of Donbass out of this terrible and disastrous military-political quagmire.”
    Author Evgeny Damantsev

    Dear Evgeniy, the Russian people live not only in Donbass. In a military-political quagmire, all Russians, all of Ukraine. To pull out only part of the Russians from this viper means to get gangrene for the entire 21st century from the remaining part to rot and, in the end, to die from it, to the joy of the Anglo-American adversaries. 40 former Soviet people of Ukraine, who not so long ago lived a normal, creative life, were turned by specialists in information-psychological wars. Traps into cattle. BUT THIS IS A TROUBLE AND A TRAGEDY FOR THE WHOLE RUSSIAN WORLD. This is what needs to be conveyed to VO readers first of all!
    1. -1
      10 August 2016 17: 40
      What kind of gangrene? Gangrene will begin if the Armed Forces of Ukraine “trample” Donbass with “Hurricanes” and “Grads” ... they carry out an ethnic cleansing at the hands of nationalists, Benders and other monsters, and then generously throw 6-7 “Patriot” batteries and a couple of “THAAD” batteries under the border of the Russian Federation, yes and is there anything human in you at all, inherent in a Russian person!?
  55. 0
    10 August 2016 13: 17
    Let's call a spade a spade. There is not a civil war going on in Donbass, there is a punitive operation being carried out there. Khokhlobanderites kill people who do not agree with their ideology. They hate Russians and everything Russian. They only need coal from Donbass, there is winter ahead and the junta will not survive. In this regard, a fourth option is visible. After the assassination attempt on Plotnitsky, whoever he was, The LPR has a free hand to respond in the same way. Since the majority of the people of Ukraine do not support the junta, which came to power illegally, all methods against it are good. The longer they are in power, what is their task? - to drive a wedge between our peoples, the relationship will only get worse. It’s time to end this
  56. 0
    10 August 2016 13: 47
    It is worth waiting until NATO announces a plan for bombing Ukraine, similar to Yugoslavia. Now, then, at the tearful request of the President of Ukraine, it will be possible to send in liberating troops. And getting involved in a “hybrid” with fronts is more expensive for yourself.
  57. 0
    10 August 2016 18: 28
    Considering the current situation in Russia and around Russia, you understand one simple truth: Putin has discarded all the liberal-populist baggage and is pursuing an extremely pragmatic tough policy. He is suffering image losses, the stakes are as high as ever. Gasoline is becoming more expensive day by day, where is our valiant FAS? Tsyts and she became blind and deaf. In Syria, it is necessary to force events, in this context, the meeting with Erdogan is noteworthy. Tactical concessions for the sake of prospects in the strategic plan. Minsk-2 fulfilled its function. Gave a respite to both sides of the conflict in Donbass. Everyone was intensively preparing for a new wave of hostilities. The war is a continuation of a policy that has drowned in snot and is pretty boring to everyone.

"Right Sector" (banned in Russia), "Ukrainian Insurgent Army" (UPA) (banned in Russia), ISIS (banned in Russia), "Jabhat Fatah al-Sham" formerly "Jabhat al-Nusra" (banned in Russia) , Taliban (banned in Russia), Al-Qaeda (banned in Russia), Anti-Corruption Foundation (banned in Russia), Navalny Headquarters (banned in Russia), Facebook (banned in Russia), Instagram (banned in Russia), Meta (banned in Russia), Misanthropic Division (banned in Russia), Azov (banned in Russia), Muslim Brotherhood (banned in Russia), Aum Shinrikyo (banned in Russia), AUE (banned in Russia), UNA-UNSO (banned in Russia), Mejlis of the Crimean Tatar people (banned in Russia), Legion “Freedom of Russia” (armed formation, recognized as terrorist in the Russian Federation and banned), Kirill Budanov (included to the Rosfinmonitoring list of terrorists and extremists)

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