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Turkish ambassador explained what is expected in Ankara from the meeting of Putin and Erdogan

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The presidents of the two countries, Vladimir Putin and Tayyip Erdogan, at the 9 talks in August will outline a roadmap for the development of bilateral relations, reports RIA News Statement by the Turkish Ambassador in Moscow, Umit Yardim.



“The leaders will discuss the full range of issues. First, negotiations will be held face-to-face, and then between delegations. And, of course, the presidents during the 9 talks in August will outline a roadmap in order to take our relationship to a qualitatively new level, ”Yardym said.

Then “representatives of the bureaucracy, business, economy, public, cultural community will bring it to life,” he added.

“I can quite confidently say that this historical a meeting. We’ve been preparing for it for almost a month, "
stressed the diplomat.

According to him, the leaders "will discuss the Turkish Stream gas pipeline project." At the same time, he expressed confidence that “the negotiations will give impetus not only to this project, but also to all areas of interaction” of the two countries.

“The energy sector is one of the most significant for our countries, this applies both to the supply of Russian natural gas and, to a lesser extent, to the supply of oil,” said Yardym.

Another project of great importance to Ankara is the construction of the Akkuyu nuclear power plant, and Turkey is determined to “resolutely continue to move towards the implementation of this project”.

It is also possible that the presidents will raise "the issue of easing the visa regime," the ambassador said.

In addition, the meeting will discuss "regional and international issues, such as the fight against terrorism, including in the context of the Syrian theme."

Recall that the meeting between Putin and Erdogan will be held 9 August in St. Petersburg.
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  1. svp67
    svp67 6 August 2016 09: 39
    +14
    First, for our dead people, the pilot and the Marine, let the answer be given by the cost of the lost aircraft, it does not interfere with the return. And then let them develop all sorts of "maps".
    1. oleg-gr
      oleg-gr 6 August 2016 09: 43
      +18
      The Turkish leadership is in a puddle. Now he is frantically looking for how to get out of the water without losing face. Hence the talk about the "historic meeting". Erdogan is the same weather vane as Yanukovych. He wants to receive "food" from everyone: the Russian Federation, the EU, the USA.
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 6 August 2016 09: 53
        +10
        Turkey to Russia is not a friend, but only a temporary and insidious ally! It is from this that Russian politicians must always proceed pragmatically in matters of the national security of the Russian Federation and "cooperation" with Turkey.
      2. Lelek
        Lelek 6 August 2016 10: 49
        +6
        Quote: oleg-gr
        Now he is frantically looking for how to get out of the water without losing his face.


        It's not up to the "face". The road to the EU is completely closed, relations with the US and Russia are destroyed, the economy is bursting at the seams, "refugees" and terrorists from Syria and Iraq are pouring in (and what to do with them?), Prisons and concentration camps are overflowing with "putschists" and "enemies of the regime." What to do in such a situation? Only retreat to their previous positions, ask for forgiveness and "lick their wounds." The United States is somewhere far over the ocean, and Russia is right next to it, overhead. This is the task that the government of Erdogan will solve in the near future (as for the "face", then spit at Erdogan, and he will say "God's dew") (click).
    2. Khariton
      Khariton 6 August 2016 09: 51
      +2
      Quote: svp67
      First, for our dead people, the pilot and the Marine, let the answer be given by the cost of the lost aircraft, it does not interfere with the return. And then let them develop all sorts of "maps".

      They must pay ... Otherwise, Putin, the people will not understand you! Will you hug with him? Invite the family of the deceased pilot to a meeting and let everyone see it ..
      1. theadenter
        theadenter 6 August 2016 11: 32
        +4
        Our pilots are not for sale. Their assassination completely naturally completely destroyed confidence in Turkey. Now let them earn confidence again.
        1. Stas157
          Stas157 6 August 2016 14: 17
          +2
          Quote: theadenter
          Our pilots are not for sale. Their assassination completely naturally completely destroyed confidence in Turkey.

          Well what are you! Putin has already sold them! But what about the sudden reconciliation between Putin and Erdogan, whose apologies no one saw except Peskov? With Erdogan on which there is nowhere to put a sample! Companion of terrorists, a dealer in stolen oil, the killer of our pilot! Why did Putin make a deal with the devil? It is clear that there was a reason! For example, Putin’s defenders say: for the sake of Russia, because it’s not profitable for America ... honestly, it’s hard for me to understand why, let Putin tell me what else?)) Nevertheless, I hope that Putin does not cheapen at the meeting with Erdogan would have negotiated more preferences. After all, Putin saved Erdogan’s life!

          But, I’m afraid everything will be like a parable about a scorpion, which cannot but sting, because you can’t argue against nature. So Erdogan, again hit in the back. This is understandable! Why check again?
          1. 78bor1973
            78bor1973 6 August 2016 14: 37
            +3
            And who said he sold it? To meet is one thing and to build a nuclear power plant is another, but about a deal with the devil - "the wrong field of berries" Putin for Erdogan! To sell someone, you have to screw up in your own country, but the GDP is all right with that!
            1. Stas157
              Stas157 6 August 2016 15: 08
              +1
              Quote: 78bor1973
              And who said what he sold?

              Do you think differently?
              Erdogan, probably, promised something to Putin, before Putin again launched tomatoes to us, and tourists to them! This "something" is the price of the transaction as a hostage that the downed pilot became.
              And, here are the details of this transaction will be discussed personally, at a meeting. Such a dirty policy.
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      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 6 August 2016 09: 56
        +3
        “Leaders will discuss the full range of issues. First negotiations will be face-to-face,

        It is during this period of time that the most important issues will be resolved. However, it is unlikely that we will immediately find out about the main result of these negotiations. We will only be given minor news for discussion, such as the Turkish Stream.
    4. Finches
      Finches 6 August 2016 10: 04
      +6
      Turkey cannot be regarded as a friend or ally - today it is just a strategic partner in the Middle East region which needs to be used to the full in Russia's national interests and the fact that it was managed to turn in our direction from the Americans is a tremendous merit not only of diplomats, personally GDP , but also, unfortunately, laid on the altar of the Fatherland, the death of our pilot! Here is a true example when one person, at the cost of his life, changes the whole arrangement of pieces on the geopolitical chessboard of the world, influencing the fate of millions of people and dozens of states!
    5. Tambov Wolf
      Tambov Wolf 6 August 2016 10: 05
      +6
      Information has passed, such as about secret negotiations with the Turks about compensation for the plane and other matters related to this. We’ll wait. But actually, these friends are for hell, but to the museum.
      1. ICT
        ICT 6 August 2016 18: 51
        -1
        Quote: Tambov Wolf
        compensation for the aircraft

        Yes, we are working on that piece of iron, two people died from a knife in the back, and the GVP substitutes its not back for its not a knife, that’s the problem,

        and GDP for myself has already decided everything for him the life of a pilot zilch, I didn’t see an apology, I didn’t see an intention and apologize
        1. Cat man null
          Cat man null 6 August 2016 18: 57
          -2
          Quote: TIT
          gdp substitutes his back for his not a knife, that’s the problem

          - did not try to include a brain, before how to write like that?
          - Politoluh, Mlyn ...

          Quote: TIT
          and GDP for itself has already decided everything for him the life of a pilot zilch ...

          - But what, was he supposed to declare war? Who are you, such nerds wise men, gives birth, brings up ... or insanity is already senile?

          Quote: TIT
          ... I did not see an apology ...

          - "I" is the last letter in the alphabet, remember
          “You have a lot of things that you didn’t see ... because you weren’t allowed, you shouldn’t.” So what?

          Quote: TIT
          intentional apologize not seen

          - we also write with asypkami ... also to me, statesman, in a stump ... a pique vest negative
          1. ICT
            ICT 6 August 2016 19: 33
            +4
            Quote: Cat Man Null
            statesman

            part of the people from the plow, and I'm not dictated in Russian
            Quote: Cat Man Null
            You have a lot of things that you didn’t see ... because you weren’t allowed, you shouldn’t. So what

            Quote: Cat Man Null
            - But what, was he supposed to declare war?

            we will wait when it starts to crawl
            Quote: Cat Man Null
            did not try to include a brain, before how to write similar?
            - Politoluh, Mlyn ...

            hurt by the living
            but for example the words of a very recent past

            accomplices of terrorists by the way

            of course I repeat again, but still


            “The shah sent his grandson Khozrev Mirza to St. Petersburg to settle relations with Russia. His task was to get an apology for the murder of the ambassador to be accepted and the burden of indemnity to be mitigated [10]. Among the rich gifts he presented to the Russian Emperor Nicholas I was the famous In the end, the massacre did not cause serious complications in relations between Russia and Persia, and the payment of the kururs was postponed for five years [1] [10].

            Nicholas I - Khozrev-Mirze, having accepted the diamond: "I consign the unfortunate Tehran incident to eternal oblivion."

            where is the diamond.
            well, the result is a picture
            1. ICT
              ICT 6 August 2016 19: 44
              -2
              Quote: TIT
              we will wait when it starts to crawl

            2. Cat man null
              Cat man null 6 August 2016 19: 57
              0
              Uffff ... recourse I hardly turn on my brain and try to think:

              What really happened with the plane, Turkey, Erdogan and others:

              - Turks shot down a plane. Were in their own right, in principle - ours were on the verge of a foul
              - the plane was going for a walk. Neither air defense nor fighters ... a fairy tale ... whose cant? IMHO leader of the operation in Syria. No more
              - a certain diplomatic, political and economic reaction from the Russian Federation followed. Simply put - they said that in such cases it is necessary, and with all the dope they hit on the patient himself. By wallet, i.e.
              - measures, as we see, worked - these are the Turks who came to the Russian Federation, not vice versa

              What else do you need? Almaz Griboedova? There was a slightly different situation ...

              Everything else a la

              Quote: TIT
              gdp substitutes his not back for his not a knife

              - there is nonsense request

              Quote: TIT
              GDP for itself has already decided for him the life of a pilot zilch

              - human life is not worth it at all. Neither mine, nor yours, nor anyone else's. You still do not understand this?
              - and always has been, an example:

              - Under the Union, we also developed an endoprosthesis of either the knee or the hip joint ... I don’t remember
              - such a cool endoprosthesis, but it did not go into production: the "cost of living" of a disabled person who needed such a prosthesis was less than the cost of the prosthesis itself
              - this, I repeat, in the mid-80s, under the Soviet Union. "The most socially oriented system". But nobody canceled the economy. request

              There is a war in Syria. This is a war solely for certain economic interests (and to spit there, by and large, all-all-all on Assad ... also, by the way, is far from an angel with wings).

              All your other conjectures and pictures - take it for yourself, hang it on the wall ... or rather throw them out nafig. And remember already that politics at the level of states (nuclear, by the way) is not the same as children's games in the sandbox. The concepts of "friends", "honesty" and others there ... are not in demand. And no one will explain to you personally why someone (Erdogan, Putin, ...) did this and that. Is not obliged to. And it is harmful when everyone and everyone knows.

              That's something like Yes
              1. ICT
                ICT 6 August 2016 21: 46
                -1
                Quote: Cat Man Null
                IMHO leader of the operation in Syria. No more

                and whose we then sharply lowered the rank of responsibility
                Turkey is a NATO country and by and large an ally, so here to answer to the head of state, he didn’t agree with partners, somehow it’s not otherwise

                Quote: Cat Man Null
                did so and so - no one will. Is not obliged to. Yes, and it’s harmful

                and then why did I sing (ate ()
                about the accomplices of the terrorists and all ears about the son of Erdogan and his connection with slippers noodles hung

                if I were to live in the time of Nicholas I, I wouldn’t know at all about what happened
                in Persia (and although there was no lie, only one "oligarch" survived there, count it as a fellow countryman, but he would only know from rumors)

                so what if you brought out all this general discussion so be kind and act according to the laws
                Quote: Cat Man Null
                The concepts of "friends", "honesty"


                it’s harmful for Erdogan to lose face (by making an official apology), but the GDP rating doesn’t overwhelm him, forget what he said yesterday

                ps
                Quote: Cat Man Null
                - there is nonsense

                shaking hands with Erdogan without apologizing
                will look like I described
                1. Cat man null
                  Cat man null 6 August 2016 22: 53
                  -1
                  Quote: TIT
                  and whose we then sharply lowered the rank of responsibility

                  - Who is responsible for covering the bomber with fighters when working in a dumb area? President of the country? Or is it the commander of the operation?

                  Quote: TIT
                  Turkey NATO country and by and large type ally

                  - Whose is she, (censorship), "like an ally"? RF, or what ?! fool
                  - go to sleep, and in the morning - not a drop more ...

                  Quote: TIT
                  here to answer to the head of state, he didn’t agree with partners, somehow somehow

                  - for sure. And he did not agree that the bully Andryusha (or Vasya, anyway) would not write in your staircase ...

                  Carroche: patient, you understand ... Your variations on the theme "the cat abandoned the kittens - it's ... it's not my fault" I'm not interested.

                  I outlined my point of view on the problem;

                  Cabbage soup hi
    6. weksha50
      weksha50 6 August 2016 10: 48
      +2
      Quote: svp67
      First, for our dead people, the pilot and the Marine, let the answer be given by the cost of the lost aircraft, it does not interfere with the return. And then let them develop all sorts of "maps".



      Hmm ... Politicians and strategists operate on people like tic-tac-toe ... And this is not only in our state, but in the whole world ...

      So ... In this case, strategic interests are put above "some" pilots, marines, aircraft ... Relatives were paid insurance, the plane was written off, we will be friends with Erdogan until the next stab in the back ... hi
      1. theadenter
        theadenter 6 August 2016 11: 41
        +3
        we will be friends with Erdogan until another blow to the back ...

        That's it. Therefore, one cannot return to the previous level of trust.
    7. theadenter
      theadenter 6 August 2016 11: 28
      0
      Even after fulfilling all these conditions, I would not trust him.
    8. Lord_Bran
      Lord_Bran 7 August 2016 13: 18
      0
      A month getting ready? Ass soap, or what? am
  2. Mjohn
    Mjohn 6 August 2016 09: 41
    +2
    Keep Karabakh Conflict Out
  3. Tusv
    Tusv 6 August 2016 09: 43
    +4
    Erdogan accepted our list of terrorist organizations. Basmachi are being shredded to the organs of the SAR not without the support of the Turkish leader. At least not interfere
    There are already positive developments
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 6 August 2016 18: 48
      +1
      Quote: Tusv
      At least it doesn't bother me.


      But the border corridor does not close. Believing Erdogan is at a loss, but you need to talk - the neighbor, nevertheless, Turkey will not sail anywhere.
      By the way, about the downed MI-17 (click):
  4. Petr1
    Petr1 6 August 2016 09: 48
    0
    Erdogan is cornered, it's time to make concessions and get out of NATO
    1. Khariton
      Khariton 6 August 2016 09: 53
      0
      Quote: Petr1
      Erdogan is cornered, it's time to make concessions and get out of NATO

      While we deal with mongrels, but it’s time to take the owners for one place ..
      1. Tusv
        Tusv 6 August 2016 10: 18
        +1
        Quote: Chariton
        While we deal with mongrels, but it’s time to take the owners for one place ..

        In general, Mishiko easily got off. Of all three, Erdogash is the worst. The left testicle squeezes Babam, the right Putin, and the bench press surges
        1. Khariton
          Khariton 6 August 2016 10: 27
          -2
          Quote: Tusv
          Quote: Chariton
          While we deal with mongrels, but it’s time to take the owners for one place ..

          In general, Mishiko easily got off. Of all three, Erdogash is the worst. The left testicle squeezes Babam, the right Putin, and the bench press surges

          Mishiko would have easily gotten away if he had quietly sat in the United States ... From Israeli air defense he shot down our couple of planes .. Bastard! With an ice ax in the head, he will end ...
          1. Tusv
            Tusv 6 August 2016 10: 35
            0
            Quote: Chariton
            Mishiko would have easily gotten away if he had quietly sat in the United States ... From Israeli air defense he shot down our couple of planes .. Bastard! With an ice ax in the head, he will end ...

            You want to say that Mishiko is a Jew? What will our Israeli comrades say? feel
          2. weksha50
            weksha50 6 August 2016 10: 53
            +1
            Quote: Chariton
            .From Israeli air defense, he shot down our couple of planes ..



            Call the Stryi Air Defense Regiment (near Lviv) ... If they consider it necessary, they will tell you who, when and with what shot down our planes over Georgia ... But they don’t admit ...

            PS Well, maybe the surname may not be called, but the system was still Soviet ... It’s called a beech ...
  5. krops777
    krops777 6 August 2016 09: 54
    +2
    The throne near Erdogan seems to have completely staggered, so it rushes to and fro.
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 6 August 2016 18: 57
      +2
      Quote: krops777
      The throne near Erdogan seems to have completely staggered, so it rushes to and fro.


      This is all the more so since the so-called. The "opposition" in Syria begins to seek contacts with the Russian Armed Forces and turns away from the United States, and this is fraught with a lot for all players in this field (click):
  6. BOB044
    BOB044 6 August 2016 10: 01
    +3
    I believe any beast and I’ll wait a bit. The cunning Erdogan is very cunning. But I think also V.V. Putin is not easy will not allow himself to outwit the Turks.
    1. Khariton
      Khariton 6 August 2016 10: 12
      0
      Quote: BOB044
      I believe any beast and I’ll wait a bit. The cunning Erdogan is very cunning. But I think also V.V. Putin is not easy will not allow himself to outwit the Turks.

      Heather mustache ... Putin saved him from death! Well, while he is repairing the disassembly .. and then again the scimitar can stick a curve into the back of Russia! I hope not in time ...
      1. atalef
        atalef 6 August 2016 10: 28
        +4
        Quote: Chariton
        Heather mustache ... Putin saved him from death!

        to hell?
        Quote: Chariton
        Well, while he is repairing the disassembly .. and then again the scimitar can stick a curve into the back of Russia! I hope not in time ...

        Time to believe Erdogan - to deceive yourself laughing
        1. Tusv
          Tusv 6 August 2016 11: 17
          +1
          Quote: atalef
          Time to believe Erdogan - to deceive yourself

          Reread our great historian Korney Ivanovich. In the St. Petersburg Zoo, even the most vicious barmaley is re-educated laughing
          Up! And the tigers sat at my feet
  7. viktor.
    viktor. 6 August 2016 10: 12
    +1
    fart at the moment I agree on everything as Kh Vasin laughing
  8. passing
    passing 6 August 2016 10: 20
    +2
    if only the visa regime remained, otherwise the so-called rabies would come to us, the devil knows who controlled. let them sit there or squeeze the EU
  9. weksha50
    weksha50 6 August 2016 10: 43
    +2
    "leaders "will discuss the Turkish Stream gas pipeline project." At the same time, he expressed confidence that “the negotiations they will impulse not only to this project, but also to all areas of interaction ”of the two countries"...

    They will give ... I understand that a typo or illiteracy of a journalist ... But this mistake is a mistake, unfortunately, to the point ...

    Bulgarians ... Turks ... One project, the second ... Russian financial resources are invested and go ... And then the same EU and Germany, in the person of Merkel, are trying to set conditions and restrictions for Nord Stream-2, so that Europe will have it’s good, but also so that Russia continues to not only feed Ukraine for free, but also to enable it to again blackmail these gas pipes ...

    Despite all the problems, we absolutely and absolutely do not need an acute conflict with Turkey ... However, Putin and his advisers need to work here according to the principle "Measure seven times, cut once" ...

    And in no case should the Government and Dam be left to the preparation and implementation of these decisions ... More precisely, to exercise total control over the work of the government in these matters ...

    PS Damn, we are all looking for the fifth column ... And she, like a snake, is sitting in her bosom ...

    Medvedev said to the teachers: "If you want to make money, go into business" ... He was ashamed to add that he did it himself: the associate professor of St. Petersburg University went into politics, and this is the coolest business ... wassat
  10. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 6 August 2016 10: 48
    0
    “I can quite confidently say that this historical meeting. For almost a month now we have been preparing for it. ”

    Well, let's see the historical or again Turkish verbiage. A person cannot suddenly change his character and mentality.
  11. ML-334
    ML-334 6 August 2016 10: 52
    +1
    I think the Turks are less evil than Ukrainians, it is important for us to drop the pipe bypassing the greater evil and it will be cheaper for the money. 2019 is already on the nose, it's time to build.
  12. zenith
    zenith 6 August 2016 11: 22
    +3
    Quote: oleg-gr
    The Turkish leadership is in a puddle. Now he is frantically looking for how to get out of the water without losing face. Hence the talk about the "historic meeting"

    Apparently our leadership is very, very, very interested in the renewal of relations. Once, after a small hint of apology, it turned so sharply from back to face. And where is the indignation, nodules on the face, hard-squeezed words. They showed themselves to be easy-going. They gave carte blanche for repetition. Next time, everyone will know. Give us something (whoever you like), nothing, they will suffer, give in and when necessary they will leave. There is clearly not enough strength, and to bend our own line both in Syria and in the world, and sneeze at everyone like "zebras", and crush the situation. All the same "partners" are needed, but inferior ones are needed. I think it's business and nothing personal. Search in the key words - gas, Turkish stream, tariffs, gas discounts, investments, not earned estimated profit, comrades, partners.
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null 6 August 2016 11: 39
      -1
      Quote: zenit
      I think business and nothing personal. Look in the keywords - gas, Turkish stream, tariffs, gas discounts, investments, estimated earnings not already received, comrades, partners

      - and rightly so. Economy is primary, politics is only "derived from"

      Quote: zenit
      They showed themselves to be resourceful. Dali carte blank check

      - haven’t shown anything yet
      - there will be no repetition - the S-400 has already been deployed and is on guard, escort by fighters, too, IMHO, will no longer be "forgotten"

      Quote: zenit
      And where is the indignation, nodules on the face, words with difficulty squeezed out

      - kindergarten, pants with straps

      Minus my yes Yes
  13. Vladimir 38
    Vladimir 38 6 August 2016 12: 05
    0
    Well done Putin, for foreign policy 5+.
  14. mamont5
    mamont5 6 August 2016 12: 23
    +2
    Quote: Chariton
    They must pay ... Otherwise, Putin, the people will not understand you! Will you hug with him? Invite the family of the deceased pilot to a meeting and let everyone see it ..

    For all the people, you don’t just have to speak ... There are emotions, but there is politics, and even just negotiations with the Turks will hit the US nerves and their Western sloths hard. And what they agree on is another matter ...
  15. Gunther
    Gunther 6 August 2016 12: 24
    +2
    Quote: Author
    ..the leaders "will discuss the Turkish Stream gas pipeline project."

    Who would doubt that(((
    I hope the GDP will be consistent and the benefits of Gazprom will not catch their eyes, because it will communicate with an accomplice of terrorists:
    "This event goes beyond the usual fight against terrorism. Of course, our military is
    heroic struggle against terror, not sparing themselves, not sparing their lives. But today's loss is connected with the blow that the accomplices of the terrorists inflicted in the back. In another way, I cannot qualify what happened today. "
    I agree with Tatyana, svp67 and other comments in this vein.
  16. zenith
    zenith 6 August 2016 12: 29
    +1
    Quote: Cat Man Null

    Minus my yes

    Thanks for the minus laughing So the eye hurts.
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null 6 August 2016 18: 43
      -1
      Quote: zenit
      Thanks for the minus

      - you're welcome. Write more nonsense - I’ll add, I do not mind laughing

      Quote: zenit
      So the eye hurts

      - a lot of honor. Such "opinions" as yours there - "on a patch of a bunch". It’s just that it’s obvious to wade through this gum ... with your eyes, yes Yes
  17. Yereke
    Yereke 6 August 2016 13: 53
    -1
    Nazarbayev already visited him and advised yesterday about everything, everything will be fine)
  18. patriot-rf
    patriot-rf 6 August 2016 18: 21
    +2
    Quote: Chariton
    They must pay ... Otherwise, Putin, the people will not understand you! Will you hug with him? Invite the family of the deceased pilot to a meeting and let everyone see it ..

    even by rating you are a general, and thinking is like a corporal.
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null 6 August 2016 18: 47
      -1
      Quote: patriot-RF
      Quote: Chariton
      They must pay ... Otherwise, Putin, the people will not understand you! Will you hug with him? Invite the family of the deceased pilot to a meeting and let everyone see it ..

      even by rating you are a general, and thinking is like a corporal.

      Inspired by:

      "An ostrich has bigger eyes than a brain" - and I know such people.
      "The starfish has no brain at all!" - and I also know such people ...

      Eh, Khariton, Khariton ... well, what kind of Hariton are you, to the devil? Meehan, he is Meehan, even though you call him Mozart negative
  19. Old Horseradish
    Old Horseradish 6 August 2016 20: 11
    0
    But what about the screams about "a dastardly stab in the back", "Russia does not abandon its own." If a US military aircraft with a full crew had been shot down, not by mistake, but by direct order of the Turkish authorities, then how deep would the crater at the site of the Turkish airfield from where the F-16 took off? And Putin has "allies", "partners", "companions", "business friends" everywhere. I think this way: you can't dance on the bones of our dead heroes - it certainly won't end well!
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null 6 August 2016 20: 20
      -1
      Quote: Old Fuck
      But what about the screams about "a dastardly stab in the back", "Russia does not abandon its own"

      - oh ... one more stubborn ...

      Quote: Old Fuck
      If a US military plane with a full crew were shot down not by mistake, but by direct order of the Turkish authorities, then how deep the funnel would be where did the F-16 take off at the site of the Turkish airfield?

      - zero meters, zero centimeters
      - because at this airport the American air base fool

      Quote: Old Fuck
      And Putin has "allies", "partners", "companions", "business friends" everywhere.

      - don’t worry, it’s better ... otherwise you will get used to it, and on the street that thread like someone thread blurt out
      - and there’s not the Internet, there you can grab at the sovl

      Quote: Old Fuck
      ... it certainly won’t end in good!

      - exactly. For you specifically Yes
  20. Gunther
    Gunther 6 August 2016 20: 49
    0
    Quote: Cat Man Null
    - under the Soviet Union, we also developed an endoprosthesis of either a knee or a hip joint ... I don’t remember, such a cool endoprosthesis, but it did not go into production: the "cost of survival" of a disabled person who needed such a prosthesis was less than the cost of the prosthesis itself - this, I repeat, in the mid-80s, under the Soviet Union.

    There is no connection between the “cost of living” of a disabled person and the cost of a prosthesis; for disabled people, the survival period is not determined, since disability can be established at any age and for any period, endoprostheses of Sivash (Sokolov) and Zatsepin have been widely used since 1967.
    Quote: Cat Man Null
    There is a war in Syria. This is a war exclusively for certain economic interests.

    Your truth, Syria crossed the road to the Saudis and Cathars in their intention to pull the gas pipeline from Qatar to Europe, to our monopolies this pipeline is like a sickle in Faberge.
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null 6 August 2016 21: 42
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      Quote: Gunter
      There is no connection between the "cost of living" of a disabled person and the cost of a prosthesis; for disabled people, the survival period is not determined, since disability can be established at any age and for any period

      - right, like twice two four
      - nevertheless, the motivation was just that (they told me so, I say right away - I had nothing to do with this development)

      Quote: Gunter
      endoprostheses of Sivash (Sokolov) and Zatsepin began to be widely used since 1967

      - It may well be, I say - not my area. Yes, and the office in which this crap was developed mainly worked for space
      - endoprostheses (something there is titanium and other ...) for her were, how to say ... a by-product, here Yes
  21. Former battalion commander
    Former battalion commander 6 August 2016 21: 09
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    As long as Putin does not wait for ERDOGAN SPECIFIC actions that mean SERIOUS WASTE from the EU and the USA, it makes no sense to spray. Only when there is NO BACK TO ERDOGAN in the EU and the USA only then can serious bets be made on him. Well, there to build a nuclear power plant, pull the pipe. For example, such an action could be the CLOSURE of the American base ... If this does not happen, then the ties built with Turkey will not be reliable. Turkey is an ETERNAL enemy and adversary of Russia, and this is already in the genes of their population. It is extremely difficult, if not impossible, to break this tradition. You can’t be allowed to step on the same rake that the USSR helped everyone to build, and ALL HAVE betrayed him.
  22. zenith
    zenith 8 August 2016 17: 09
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    Quote: Cat Man Null
    Quote: Old Fuck
    But what about the screams about "a dastardly stab in the back", "Russia does not abandon its own"

    - oh ... one more stubborn ...

    Quote: Old Fuck
    If a US military plane with a full crew were shot down not by mistake, but by direct order of the Turkish authorities, then how deep the funnel would be where did the F-16 take off at the site of the Turkish airfield?

    - zero meters, zero centimeters
    - because at this airport the American air base fool

    Quote: Old Fuck
    And Putin has "allies", "partners", "companions", "business friends" everywhere.

    - don’t worry, it’s better ... otherwise you will get used to it, and on the street that thread like someone thread blurt out
    - and there’s not the Internet, there you can grab at the sovl

    Quote: Old Fuck
    ... it certainly won’t end in good!

    - exactly. For you specifically Yes

    What you are not restrained Cat-ik, Chess word. It is worth reading your "library" to understand the diagnosis. And about the scoreboard in vain. Sixes are also disliked if Th. You already decide whether you are against a blow in the back, then a turn to the face does not contradict your principles. Like a weathervane by God wink