Drones Fighting Technologies (Part of 1)

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Drones Fighting Technologies (Part of 1)

The Israeli company IAI has recently developed several ground-based DRONE GUARD systems (pictured) for detection, tracking and incapacitation (jamming) drones in response to growing global security concerns related to the increasing proliferation of inexpensive and easy-to-fly remotely controlled aircraft


Rafael Advanced Defense Systems recently introduced its IRON BEAM HEL as a system for intercepting unguided missiles, artillery shells and mines and fighting drones. In addition to developing UAV systems, the PATIOT Israeli Air Force’s air defense unit is changing its training programs to prepare for this new threat.

Given the variety of possible threats and scenarios in which a person does not take direct part, technologies to combat unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) are increasingly interested in the armed forces, security forces, the police and even private security structures, as the increasing use and availability of UAVs is of concern to higher military leadership, security and law enforcement.

Sensational events in various countries around the world related to UAVs, from dropping a drone on the lawn of the White House to mystical vehicles flying around the Eiffel Tower, brought the UAV technology and some of their associated risks to the center of attention. We are witnessing a sharp increase in interest in solutions to combat drones (hereinafter referred to as anti-drones solutions), since potential threats range from mini-UAVs (less than 20 kg) and small-sized UAVs (20-150 kg) to tactical UAVs. The availability of small UAVs creates security problems, as they sometimes interfere with the daily activities of airports, pose a threat to important infrastructure and public events, either due to the irresponsible behavior of operators, or as a means of deliberate harm.

UAVs, even without weapons, can be very dangerous, as they can be used to gather intelligence information for criminal or terrorist purposes, while the payload can be used to transport improvised bombs and similar devices (for example, PaketKopter and UAV drone pilots offered by DHL. Amazon's online store Prime-Air Delivery drone can carry up to 2 kg of cargo). The so-called self-proclaimed Islamic State (prohibited in Russia) has already used conventional mini-UAVs to provide real-time aerial surveillance of target areas and coordinate attacks. The video frames of these strokes were even used for promotional video and are widely distributed on the Internet.



Quadcopters for delivering Prime-Air Delivery and PaketKopter products (below)

The UK took this threat so seriously that in 2012 the British Air Force and Selex-ES (now Finmeccanica Airborne & Space Systems) developed and deployed an integrated anti-unmanned system in London to protect the Olympic Stadium. This system was further refined and used to protect national leaders at the 8 G2013 summit in Northern Ireland and then at the 2014 NATO summit in Wales.

It is important to note that different scenarios have a huge impact on possible solutions. While tactical drones are not so different from conventional aircraft and helicopters and, as a rule, they can be fought with traditional anti-aircraft weapons, smaller Class-I UAVs define a completely different set of requirements. Often, two different approaches are implemented: either attributing the UAV to the same large family of small rotary-winged vehicles (according to the foreign classification LSS - low slow small - low-flying slow-flying small), or instead using the technique, one way or another connected with the interception of unguided missiles, artillery shells and min C-RAM (Counter-Rockets, Artillery, Mortar).

The NATO Working Group SG-170 conducted a series of studies on the subject of “Intercepting ground defense of low-flying and slow-flying small-sized air targets”, the last of which was published in 2013 year. It evaluates the available means of detection, classification and executive components that can cope with such goals (for more details, see below).

Triangulate and track

Small UAVs are characterized by low visibility and very limited signatures in most areas: optical, acoustic, radar and infrared. The definition of these signatures can be implemented by electronically monitoring the frequencies used to control the drone or to transmit the video signal from its camera. In fact, a crowded electromagnetic spectrum, often found in cities, seriously complicates the recognition process. Countermeasures can include both functional damage (jamming the control channel, jamming or simulating a GPS signal, blinding sensors or disrupting the electronics), and direct damage (laser beam or intercepting with fire from a cannon or rocket).

However, detection and counteraction should be developed in accordance with the tactical scenario. Protecting deployed units at an advanced base station is different from providing protection to a civilian airport, and the solution for an overcrowded stadium is quite different than a solution for a sea vessel at sea. The ongoing protection of critical infrastructure requires more complex decisions than a temporary fence around a political event at the highest level.

Federal Office of Civil aviation The United States (FAA) is currently focusing its efforts on securing airports from potentially dangerous drones. In May 2015, CACI International was awarded a contract under the FAA's Pathfinder Management Program to develop and demonstrate the SKYTRACKER automatic detection, identification and tracking system. The system is a set of sensors installed around the perimeter of the guarded object and determining the location of unauthorized UAVs flying into the restricted area (5 miles from the airport), performs triangulation (a method for determining the position of geodetic points by constructing on the terrain systems of adjacent triangles in which the length of one side is measured (on the basis) and angles, and the lengths of the other sides get trigonometrically) and tracking the position of ground-based drones operators.



SKYTRACKER system of combat drones

In February, CACI deployed its SKYTRACKER system for testing at the international airport of the American city of Atlanta for one week in February of 2016. For the first time, a similar system was deployed at a civilian airport, where 140 test interceptions of various UAVs were conducted. The company reports that SKYTRACKER can also force an uninvited guest to fall without adversely affecting electronic and communication systems, which has always been a serious problem for airports.

Detection using a combination of radar and optical electronic equipment is another area that is well suited to open areas outside urban areas. Saab recently tested the capabilities of its mobile anti-aircraft radar GIRAFFE AMB (Agile Multi Beam), which is designed to counter small targets, such as UAVs, for example. During the extended 2015 test in Scotland in April, the ELSS (Enhanced LSS - Advanced LSS) mode of this radar detected over 200 objects, some with an effective reflection area (EPO) of all 0,001 м2 (10 cm2!), While distinguishing mini-UAVs from birds.

Another important step is the combination of detection, classification and timely response. Most of the proposed solutions include a detection system based on optical-electronic / infrared sensors, often connected to Ku- or X-band radars, plus an electronic countermeasure system for disrupting the operation of the control channel. The means of counteraction seem to be unnecessarily "wise" here, but in the urban scenario you cannot simply launch a missile against a UAV, since this can cause panic with far-reaching consequences.

However, some armed forces use kinetic solutions as a temporary solution before new technologies provide new opportunities even for small-caliber weapons. The French police and army chose the ALDA (Anti Light Drone Ammunition) kit to hit the UAV from the ground or from the air. The Nobel Sport-Securite ALDA kit, unveiled at MILPOL 2015, includes a Benelli long-barreled rifle, a high-precision collimator sight, a laser range finder and special Nobel Sport ALDA special ammunition, either in the short-range version on 80 meters, or long-range on 120 meters. According to the company, this solution allows to reduce or completely eliminate indirect losses, because the cartridge that has flown past by losing energy without damage falls to the ground.


ALDA Nozzle Sport-Securite Anti-Shoulder Cartridges

The US Army tested several new kinetic solutions, some of them during the Black Dart series of exercises, for which the rocket from the AGM-114 HELLFIRE helicopter was specially modified for air-to-air tasks with the installation of a remote detonator.

Other improvised solutions were tested in France, Japan, and the Netherlands, for example, using a UAV as a drones hunter or a UAV that could harass and stop other people's drones with a catching net. These solutions reduce the risk of indirect damage, but require systems for early detection and classification, as well as the use of a fairly fast and maneuverable pursuing UAV.


In connection with the spread of drones, companies devote resources to technologies capable of fighting them. Airbus DS offers high-performance solutions that combine data from various sensors, analyze and develop solutions. The UAV identification and threat potential assessment systems at 5-10 km ranges use radars, infrared cameras and direction finders from this company's portfolio.


AUDS (Anti-UAV Defense System) UAV control system is designed to neutralize UAVs and remotely operated vehicles conducting aerial surveillance and ready to cause damage.

Electron beams

Three small British companies have teamed up to create an effective system for dealing with drones, which was designated AUDS. These companies are Blighter Surveillance Systems (a manufacturer of ground-based radar stations), Chess Dynamics (a manufacturer of optronic surveillance systems) and Enterprise Control Systems - a specialist in jamming technology. The fruit of their joint activities was the UAV control system, which uses radar for jamming, optical-electronic tracking devices and a directional radio-frequency silencer that interrupts the flight of the drone. The AUDS system scans in a sector of 180 degrees.

Survey-search system Hawkeye from Chess Dynamics is installed in one unit with a radio-frequency silencer and consists of a high-resolution optical-electronic camera and a cooled medium-wave thermal imager. The first one has a horizontal field of view from 0,22 ° to 58 °, and a thermal imager from 0,6 ° to 36 °. The system uses a digital tracking device Vision4ce, providing continuous tracking in azimuth. The system is able to continuously pan in azimuth and tilt from -20 ° to 60 ° at a speed of 30 ° per second, accompanying targets at a distance of about 4 km. The multiband RF silencer is distinguished from ECS by three built-in directional antennas that form a beam 20 ° wide. The heart of the AUDS system is the operator control station, through which you can manage all the components of the system. It includes tracking display, main control screen and video recording display.

After identifying a potential threat, the jamming system disrupts the RF control channel between the operator and the drone, allowing it to be brought under control. The results of the initial tests showed that micro-UAVs can be detected about two kilometers, while mini-UAVs can be detected at a distance of 8 km. Although the AUDS system can disrupt the operation of only one UAV at a given time, it can simultaneously monitor several vehicles. Although the system has a high degree of automation in a number of aspects, especially when it is detected and accompanied, human participation is key to the functioning of AUDS. The final decision to neutralize the goal or not, and to what extent, falls entirely on the operator.

Selex-ES (now Finmeccanica Airborne & Space Systems) FALCON SHIELD, designed to detect and neutralize micro and mini UAVs, uses a scalable and modular architecture to protect objects of any size. The development, funded by the company, took over three years. In 2015, at the Defense Security Equipment International 2015 exhibition in London, the Falcon Shield anti-unmanned system from the Selex ES division of Finmeccanica was shown. The modular scalable system includes radar and optoelectronics to "search, detect, track, identify and defeat" an anticipated threat. The FALCON SHIELD system includes the NERIO family of advanced long-range optoelectronic stations, the OBSERVER 100 mast combined radar and optoelectronic surveillance system, the VANTAGE Framework C2 operational control system with a human-machine interface and the HORIZON HD thermal imaging camera.

In October 2015, Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI) showed a new DRONE GUARD system for detecting, identifying and jamming drone flights. It uses a combination of 2026D radars and optoelectronics to detect and identify an object, after which the jamming system knocks the UAV off course. Jamming interferes with the flight of the drone so that it either automatically returns to the starting point or crashes. IAI uses spatial radars such as EL/M-2026D, EL/M-2026B and EL/M-10BF for short range (15 km), medium (20 km) and long range (XNUMX km) detection. The company confirms that the Drone Guard has been “many and successfully tested against various drones and in a variety of scenarios, including simultaneous infiltration or attack by multiple drones.” According to the president of ELTA, “We have begun demonstrations of the new system to potential customers in response to new threats. We believe that in the near future, every important facility and public place will require security systems that can protect against hostile drones.”

To be continued ...
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  1. +7
    10 August 2016 06: 43
    Refer to the stands, they will help. I didn’t find our videos, but they shoot no worse. Near each secret object is a shooting center. Kind with healthy.
    1. +4
      10 August 2016 06: 56
      Quote: Bort Radist
      Refer to the stands

      Not a panacea. These mini and micro must be detected.
      1. 0
        10 August 2016 10: 13
        Quote: Corporal
        These mini and micro Yeshe need to detect.

        This is another opera. EW is not affected by fractions and buckshots.
        1. +2
          10 August 2016 16: 44
          It seems to me that it is worth looking at the animal world.
          Best of all, a bird of prey fights more.

          Therefore, to combat drones, a specialized drone would be suitable. Kite destroying pigeons.
          It should have advantages in speed and height and some kind of weapon system that allows you to shoot down a drone at a short distance (or just a sturdy structure to ram it without any damage). Nothing technically unsolvable.
  2. +4
    10 August 2016 06: 54
    What was once created as a toy has now become a big headache. what In general, here the confrontation between "armor and projectile" is just beginning, I wonder what will result.
    1. +5
      10 August 2016 09: 29
      Quote: Corporal
      What was once created as a toy has now become a big headache. what In general, here the confrontation between "armor and projectile" is just beginning, I wonder what will result.

      Yesterday I already posted this video ... entertaining.

      The opinion of Israeli friends on him is interesting.
      1. -2
        10 August 2016 09: 44
        Quote: NEXUS
        Yesterday I already posted this video ... entertaining.

        Lots of bullshit in this video. Starting with 30 minutes in mid-air, several air-to-air missiles, a senior Israeli military reporting to an Arab source, unidentified drone, its "newest" model and so on. In fact, there is only one question: why was it not shot down? Not why they couldn't, but why didn't they shoot down? We will not be informed of this in the coming years.
        1. +5
          10 August 2016 09: 50
          Quote: professor
          Starting at 30 minutes in midair, multiple air-to-air missiles,

          As far as I understand, the fact of this incident took place ...

          Quote: professor
          The question is actually only one: why not shot down?

          Apparently because they could not.
          1. -1
            10 August 2016 09: 57
            Quote: NEXUS
            As far as I understand, the fact of this incident took place ...

            This case has already been discussed here. If Israel did not want to disseminate information, then no one would know about this case. They drove the drone, immediately after crossing the border they decided to shoot down, then changed their minds and gave it to leave.

            Quote: NEXUS
            Apparently because they could not.

            Why not be able to? The same Patriots repeatedly shot down much smaller drones. F-16 also shot down more than once.
            1. +7
              10 August 2016 10: 12
              First, that means they wanted to shoot down the drone, and then, then they got sick and gave him fireworks from two Patriot missiles and one Sidewinder (self-destructing after shameful misses) worth 2 million bucks laughing

              And to shut up the triple fireworks in the sky and injuring a child with a rocket fragment in the Israeli press was like two fingers on asphalt, aha.

              Professor, you are still in the VO, not Varonline.
              1. -2
                10 August 2016 10: 29
                Quote: Operator
                First, that means they wanted to shoot down the drone, and then, then they got sick and gave him fireworks from two Patriot missiles and one Sidewinder (self-destructing after shameful misses) worth 2 million bucks

                No one reported Sidewinder. These are your inventions. The Patriots are already disposed of, so that the material resource is not affected.

                At the expense of "misses" - look on the map where the drone was and where the Patriots were eliminated.

                Quote: Operator
                And to shut up the triple fireworks in the sky and injuring a child with a rocket fragment in the Israeli press was like two fingers on asphalt, aha.

                Exactly. The solution to military censorship, and no one would even pick it up, and you would discuss fantastic jammers for GPS.

                Quote: Operator
                Professor, you are still in the VO, not Varonline.

                Well? what There are orders of magnitude more specialists than here.
                1. +1
                  10 August 2016 13: 42
                  So no one has reported a rocket firing on a drone from the F-16 - read the online edition of Al-Monitor, published in the United States, whose publishing board includes many Orthodox Jews.

                  On which map can I see the location of such super-stationary objects as a drone and rockets? laughing
                  You just announced the Israeli censorship - then what can you expect from the "specialists" from Varonline? laughing
                  1. +1
                    10 August 2016 14: 14
                    Quote: Operator
                    So no one has reported a rocket firing on a drone from the F-16 - read the online edition of Al-Monitor, published in the United States, whose publishing board includes many Orthodox Jews.

                    Link to the studio on Sidewinder.

                    Quote: Operator
                    On which map can I see the location of such super-stationary objects as a drone and rockets?

                    You do not know the location of the Patriot MANPADS? Do not know where the drone flew? Do not know in which settlement the girl suffered? And what kind of expert are you here then? request

                    Quote: Operator
                    You just announced the Israeli censorship - then what can you expect from the "specialists" from Varonline?

                    Israeli military censorship news for you? Oh well...

                    Quote: NEXUS
                    Change your mind or were weak, and therefore did not bring down? Do not dissemble, dear.

                    I repeat, the story is muddy. We will not be told why the Patriots "self-destructed" immediately after the launch, why the F-16 did not shoot down an Israeli drone, although before that it shot down drones and smaller ones. We will not be told about the content of the conversation between Vova and Bibi that followed after the incident.

                    Quote: NEXUS
                    But what then didn’t they bring down either this or that? Wasn't hunting?

                    This is what raises a bunch of questions to which there are no answers. I don’t believe that the Patriot “didn’t capture” an Israeli design drone with a wingspan of 7.22 m. I don’t believe that the F-16 missed a low-speed, slightly maneuverable target equipped with a 4 kW 37-cylinder engine. I do not believe that the F-16's cannon suddenly "jammed". I do not believe that the Volcano in the Golan has suddenly "fallen asleep" or has run out of shells. The fact that they did not shoot down. The fact that Russia has confirmed that this is its drone "by mistake" flew. The rest is all guesswork.
                    1. +1
                      10 August 2016 14: 30
                      Are you saying that the F-16 fired at the drone with a more expensive missile - AMRAAM? Hats off to your courage laughing

                      What does their launchers have to do with the "location" of anti-aircraft missiles - are they flying next to the missiles? laughing

                      What does the girl’s wound and rocket self-detonation have to do with it - fragments of high flying over a long distance, a girl can live in one village, and in another at the time of the wound, plus Israeli censorship, etc.

                      Don't try to be smart - look stupid.
                      1. -2
                        10 August 2016 14: 34
                        Link to the studio on Sidewinder.

                        You do not know the location of the Patriot MANPADS? Do not know where the drone flew? Do not know in which settlement the girl suffered?
            2. +3
              10 August 2016 13: 45
              Quote: professor
              They drove the drone, immediately after crossing the border they decided to shoot down, then changed their minds and gave it to leave.

              Change your mind or were weak, and therefore did not bring down? Do not dissemble, dear.
              Quote: professor
              Why not be able to? The same Patriots repeatedly shot down much smaller drones. F-16 also shot down more than once.

              But what then didn’t they bring down either this or that? Wasn't hunting?
        2. +1
          10 August 2016 19: 56
          Quote: professor
          Why not, but why not shot down?

          Apparently the Air Force wants to knock out the little Kalabons for some project ... And for this we need to show what we are poor and miserable, we just can’t shoot down a drone.
          1. +1
            10 August 2016 20: 26
            Quote: Kaiten
            Apparently the Air Force wants to knock out the little Kalabons for some project ... And for this we need to show what we are poor and miserable, we just can’t shoot down a drone.

            Patroit did not work out why he was put there and the interceptor fighter was also powerless ... it’s not about the need for money, but about the fact that the super-duper modern air defense was not able to destroy what it was created for .. .
            1. 0
              11 August 2016 23: 49
              Quote: NEXUS
              the super-duper modern air defense could not destroy what it was created for ...

              The Patriot was not created to combat drones. Its use against the drone is due to the fact that now there is no special anti-drone system. I suppose they are creating it now. By the way, you have the same problems. You are far from always not that our drones do not shoot down over your troops in Syria, but as a rule you simply don’t find them.
          2. 0
            11 August 2016 08: 47
            Quote: Kaiten
            Apparently the Air Force wants to knock out the little Kalabons for some project ... And for this we need to show what we are poor and miserable, we just can’t shoot down a drone.


            I don't know if you are right or not, but there is something in this, especially since there were precedents already: In the late 60s, the US Air Force could not break through funding for the construction of additional B-52s and funds for the development of B-1. It was here that the Pentagon's report appeared that the USSR had 500 (!!) strategic bombers in service. A chorus of "America is in danger!" Went up. The money was urgently found, and when the program worked with might and main, a refutation appeared - it turns out - not 500, but only 50! Well, like a zero turned out to be superfluous ... Well, what can you do - do not break what has already been built ... The scandal was of course still, but they achieved their goal!
  3. PKK
    +3
    10 August 2016 07: 04
    Russia, the means of defense against UAVs, require more than the whole world, given the number of objects and space of the country.
    1. 0
      10 August 2016 09: 14
      Quote: PKK
      Russia, the means of defense against UAVs, require more than the whole world, given the number of objects and space of the country.

      First, the law is likely to be somehow criminalized for UAV flights over sensitive facilities.
  4. +1
    10 August 2016 07: 30
    actual topic. I wonder how in Russia intend to fight this ?? Reb will not jam them
    1. +1
      10 August 2016 07: 54
      Quote: 501Legion
      how do you intend to fight this in Russia ??

      And we have a silence on this subject. Most likely, we will again be procured from someone (abroad will help us laughing )
  5. +1
    10 August 2016 08: 09
    from today's news of Udmurtia. the use of quadrocopters. detected and delayed.
    http://susanin.udm.ru/news/2016/08/10/459692
  6. +3
    10 August 2016 08: 34
    Touched by the Israeli defense system against unguided shells and UAVs - two huge laser installations to intercept one penny drone. They know how to cut the budget in the "promised land" laughing

    But what if a guided missile worth several tens of thousands of bucks comes to visit each installation worth several tens of millions of bucks?
    1. +3
      10 August 2016 08: 54
      Quote: Operator
      Milla Israeli defense system against unguided shells and UAVs - two huge laser installations for intercepting one penny drone. They know how to cut the budget in the "promised land"

      I also like drank a budget. Especially when you consider that Rafael does this project only for his money without taking a penny in the budget, i.e. no agora. But you know better.

      Quote: Operator
      But what if a guided missile worth several tens of thousands of bucks comes to visit each installation worth several tens of millions of bucks?

      Will it fly? Will it hit? And where will he come from? And if such a projectile on the S-500? wassat

      PS
      "Promised Land" - Correctly Speak Promised land or holy Land.
    2. +4
      10 August 2016 10: 41
      "two huge laser installations to intercept one penny drone." ////

      They compare it not with the price, but with the cost of possible damage.
      For example, an ordinary 120 mm mortar mine costs 100-150 dollars, but the damage from it can be millions of dollars (the "compensation cost" of the life of one person, according to insurance companies, is about a million).
      Therefore, the interception of such a mine with the same laser system pays for the cost and development.
      1. +1
        10 August 2016 11: 18
        Quote: voyaka uh
        They compare it not with the price, but with the cost of possible damage.

        I agree. Recording in Vietnam, the American drone of the frequencies of the channel of the radio-fuse of the SAM SAM-75 turned out to be not a feeble detriment for us and the Vietnamese when the missiles ceased to hit American aircraft.
      2. +2
        10 August 2016 14: 01
        No problem - destroy the laser station with guided munitions and the "compensation price" for you will be the cost of hundreds of your unguided missiles that could be intercepted by this laser station.

        Plus damage to the enemy, several orders of magnitude greater than the cost of your guided ammunition.

        Therefore, all the funny pictures of shooting from guns (laser stations the size of a truck) against sparrows (shells and reconnaissance UAVs) are ridiculous.
  7. +3
    10 August 2016 09: 06
    SKYTRACKER system of combat drones

    In the photo, not the SKYTRACKER system, but an ordinary cheap drone. The system works like this:


  8. +2
    10 August 2016 09: 22
    It's time to create a new type of troops - "anti-drone defense troops" laughing
    1. +6
      10 August 2016 09: 48
      Quote: atos_kin
      It's time to create a new type of troops - "anti-drone defense troops" laughing

      It's not a joke. An example of the difficulty of hitting a low-flying target with a small RCS was demonstrated recently during an unsuccessful attempt by the Israeli air defense to shoot down a drone over Ramatha Golan. Two Patriot missiles were launched and both of them had to be destroyed by self-detonation after they could not fix the target. A year earlier, the same battery destroyed the Syrian Su-24, which crossed the border at 800m. The difficulty of destroying the UAV was also noted by General Shamanov during the Russian-Georgian conflict in August 08.
      1. +1
        10 August 2016 13: 19
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        And a year earlier, the same battery destroyed the Syrian Su-24, which crossed the border at 800m.

        UAV launched by Hamas terrorists shot down over Ashdod
        Apparently, carrying explosives, launched by Hamas "drone" was shot down by a Patriot air defense complex over Ashdod
        http://www.7kanal.co.il/News/News.aspx/170075#.V6r9cNKLTIU
        and the interception over Ben Gurion, I saw with my own eyes.
  9. 0
    10 August 2016 10: 39
    Quote: Skubudu
    First, the law is likely to be somehow criminalized for UAV flights over sensitive facilities.

    "Forbid and not let go" no longer works, well, if only in the DPRK. Legislatively, it is better to oblige the manufacturers of civilian smalls to supply them with something like a transponder (without the possibility of turning it off by the user), then you can create equipment that tracks the approach of a drone to a regime object, and turn off this drone.
    It’s clear that I’m talking about civilian versions.
  10. 0
    10 August 2016 11: 02
    That's interesting. There is an active discussion of systems for detecting and intercepting small drones, the small size and a large proportion of plastic in the design of which make them an inconspicuous target for the radar. Nevertheless, means for successfully solving the problem are being created. And on the other hand, airplanes and even ships are being created using stealth technology and their creators argue that it is impossible to detect and destroy them. One does not fit with the other somehow.
    1. +1
      10 August 2016 11: 23
      "aircraft and even ships are created using stealth technology, and their creators claim that it is impossible to detect and destroy them" ////

      Not impossible, but difficult, many times more complicated and expensive than non-stealth.
      Drones are from the same series of problems.
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  11. +2
    10 August 2016 11: 41
    Quote: Skubudu
    First, the law is likely to be somehow criminalized for UAV flights over sensitive facilities.
    I am always touched when offers on a site sound to adopt a particular law. Is it really difficult to poke once again into the search before writing.
    Back in December, 2015 was accepted. In the latest edition of March 30 of 2016 of the year on the territory of the Russian Federation, a federal law of December 30 of 2015 of the year entered into force “On amendments to Air Code of the Russian Federation regarding the use of unmanned aircraft. " According to the document, now any unmanned aerial vehicles with take-off mass exceeding 0,25 kilograms are now subject to registration. This is not an empty ring, the Air Code provides liability for all cases of life and death. It makes no sense to reinforce something else.
  12. 0
    10 August 2016 12: 17
    Quote: Verdun
    on the other hand, airplanes and even ships are being created using stealth technology and their creators argue that it is impossible to detect and destroy them. One does not fit with the other somehow.
    To understand the essence of technical solutions for target detection, you can start by familiarizing yourself with the "Basics of Radar". Stealth technologies are not designed to make the target invisible (this statement is nothing more than a publicity stunt in order to knock money out of the budget), but only to reduce its radio signature.
    There were a number of articles on this topic in VO, and in the Internet there are a dime a dozen.
    1. 0
      10 August 2016 16: 12
      Quote: avg-mgn
      Stealth technologies are not designed to make the goal invisible (this statement is nothing more than an advertising move to knock money out of the budget

      As a person who served as an urgent in the air defense, I understand this well. And he left his comment just for those who claim that stealth technologies are the solution to all problems.
  13. +1
    10 August 2016 14: 06
    Quote: professor
    Quote: NEXUS
    Yesterday I already posted this video ... entertaining.

    Lots of bullshit in this video. Starting with 30 minutes in mid-air, several air-to-air missiles, a senior Israeli military reporting to an Arab source, unidentified drone, its "newest" model and so on. The question is actually only one: why not shot down? Why not, but why not shot down? We will not be informed of this in the coming years.


    A very, very dangerous question ... At a time known to you, after Rust’s landing on Red Square, this question asked by Gorbachev to the USSR Minister of Defense cost him and not one hundred more senior staff of the USSR posts and ranks. Well, you have a small country, the BPA flew, flew, nowhere to sit and flew away, the minister and generals are safe.
    By the way, nothing shameful even if not shot down. The confrontation of attack and defense means is the norm, because military equipment does not stand still, but develops by leaps and bounds. Brain and knock ... tomorrow.
  14. 0
    10 August 2016 15: 13
    The topic is relevant, it is necessary to come up with something for civilian use, otherwise it would fly here :-(
    Since at present unmanned aerial vehicles are mainly controlled by radio, the electronic warfare, taking into account the recent "experience" of Israel, what is needed, of course, in conjunction with a barrel rapid-fire anti-aircraft
    artillery with programmable projectile detonation.
    At the US Marine Corps training ground (Combat Center, Hawaii islands), RIMPAC 2016 international exercises (MIX-16 - Marine Air Ground Task Force Integrated Experiment 2016) were held, and mini drones (air and ground) were also tested.
    Of airborne interest, the PD-100 Black Hornet is a mini-UAV of a helicopter type, capable of reconnaissance at any light level.
    Ground modular robots, the PACMAN-I project (the developers were inspired by the PacMan game character) were used both with the combat module and as porters (scouts).
    The exercises showed the main, at the moment, minus unmanned robots - signal loss and small "all-terrain" ground mini robots.
    Loss of signal is "treated", in my opinion, either by software that allows robots to operate autonomously, in a "swarm" or "flock" mode, or by satellite support.

    “The US Navy has tested the LOCUST system, which is a flock of kamikaze drones that can successfully attack any ship.
    For the first time, representatives of the US Navy announced the development of LOCUST last year, announcing that the final version of the weapon system, consisting of a flock of combat drones, would be ready in the summer of 2016. "
    http://warspot.ru/6181-boevaya-sarancha-dyoshevo-i-serdito
    Aegis tests showed its effectiveness in the fight against single targets, when attacking a ship simultaneously with 8 small drones - 2 broke through unscathed, therefore ships equipped with the Aegis system were additionally armed with six heavy machine guns.
    Quote: Aaron Zawi
    ... in an unsuccessful attempt by the Israeli air defense to shoot down a drone over Ramatha Golan. Two Patriot missiles were launched and both of them had to be destroyed by self-detonation after they could not fix the target.

    Madass, how sad (((
    So much effort, resources, mighty "iron domes" and other copper basins, and such an embarrassment.
    The Iron Laser will help the Israeli comrades.
    1. +1
      10 August 2016 20: 06
      Quote: Gunter
      then the electronic warfare, taking into account the recent "experience" of Israel, then what is needed, of course, in conjunction with a barrel rapid-fire anti-aircraft

      The range of a rapid-fire machine is 3-4 km. Calculate how many such machines you need to build along the entire border of Israel (length of about 400 km, average width of 40 km). We do not have enough of the entire military budget. The use of such weapons in Russia will generally require space costs.

      Quote: Gunter
      mighty "iron domes"

      The LCD is not designed to work with drones and pilots too. His destiny is unguided rockets.
      1. +1
        10 August 2016 23: 14
        In addition, there is no LCD in the Golan. Just batteries are not enough in all directions.
    2. 0
      10 August 2016 23: 13
      "So much effort, money, mighty" iron domes "and other copper basins, and such an embarrassment" ////

      We are calm about both victories and failures. The main thing is not to hush up failures,
      and discuss and correct them.

      "The US Navy has tested the LOCUST system" ////

      LOCUST is a very promising development. Israel will certainly be interested in it.
      1. 0
        10 August 2016 23: 29
        The LOCUST system is a purely object electronic warfare system designed to jam two-way communication channels between the drone and the operator.

        In terms of jamming everything and everything in a very wide radio range (up to cellular communication), LOCUST is most likely effective, but only for an object with limited dimensions (no more than a stadium or government residence).

        LOCUST is not capable of damping the same radio range within an entire region (of the same Golan) due to the small size and power of the transmitters, designed for accurate jamming in urban conditions.
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          11 August 2016 01: 22
          Locust - a flock of small drones fired from guides,
          similar to the Grad system. They interact with each other,
          exchange target coordinates, replace each other when attacking an object.
  15. -1
    10 August 2016 15: 40
    Quote: professor
    The fact that the Patriot "is not
    captured "drone of Israeli design with
    I do not believe in a wingspan of 7.22 m.
    I do not believe that the F-16 "missed" the slow speed a little
    maneuverable target equipped with a 4-cylinder engine rated at 37 kW.
    I do not believe that the F-16's cannon suddenly "jammed".
    I do not believe that the Volcano in the Golan suddenly "fell asleep"
    or his shells are over.

    “If the facts contradict mine
    theory, the worse for the facts. ”©
    Quote: professor
    ... they drove the drone, immediately after crossing the border they decided to shoot down, then
    changed their minds and let him go.

    Uh-huh.
    "He looks good,
    Yes, green - no mature berries:
    You will set your teeth on edge immediately ". ©
  16. 0
    10 August 2016 16: 35
    Salute in tens of millions of dollars! A worthy honor for the Russian drone!
  17. 0
    10 August 2016 16: 57
    Very interesting, I look forward to continuing.
  18. 0
    23 October 2016 12: 05
    This is how I look in the article describes methods of countering ready-made "store" drones, which are intended purely for peaceful purposes, and for some reason, quadrocopters are considered, much more high-speed and maneuverable aircraft type UAVs are not mentioned, now obstacle avoidance functions appear in the set of properties of modern quadcopters, why not not to appear inertial control systems and orientation systems based on photomaps of the terrain, thus minimizing the impact on the satellite navigation system, and even then, this is in a city where an electronic warfare station antenna can be placed on a high building to interfere with the GPS operation, but in the field, yes if the drone has a directional antenna, then not everything will be so happy, in general there is still a lot of work to be done from the series "battle of armor and projectile", I anticipate a lot of surprises from the UAV :-)
  19. 0
    27 October 2016 19: 59
    Oh, these tales. You can stun. Do not let him fly there where you can’t.

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