Algerian "tank killer"

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Created in Algeria using Russian technology “killer” tanks", The main weapons which is the Kornet ATGM will not leave a chance for salvation to the Abrams and ILT-2000 in service with their neighbors, the agency Messenger of Mordovia.

Algerian "tank killer"


“Of course, outwardly, this car may be somewhat disappointing, since the old Soviet BTR-60 was taken as the basis. But, according to some sources, the Algerians finalized the "veteran", replacing gasoline engines with diesel ones. Also, additional hatches were cut through the hull sides, which made it easier to board and disembark. But, the most important thing is that a tower with a sight and containers of the Kornet-E anti-tank complex is installed on the roof, ”writes the author of the article, Roman Katkov.



He notes that “the installation is very similar to the Russian development of Quartet-M, which, as you know, is designed for mounting on various wheeled and tracked carriers of domestic and foreign production.” For example, an option based on the BTR-2015 was shown at the "Army-80" exhibition.



Then it was reported that "the launcher due to the presence of Kornet missiles (range to 5,5 km and armor penetration to 1200 mm) ensures the defeat of modern and promising tanks equipped with dynamic protection." There is also the possibility of shooting two missiles at the same time.

“However, judging by the images on the Algerian version, the automatic AG-30 grenade launcher, which is able to effectively deal with manpower, is not yet installed,” Katkov notes. Although, perhaps, in the near future it will appear.

In addition to the upgraded BTR-60, the Algerian military department purchased a batch of Kornet-E ATGMs in the Russian Federation, based on the Tigr-M armored vehicles, which would greatly enhance the anti-tank capabilities of the ground forces.
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  1. +6
    August 5 2016
    The main thing is not to get to the barmaley! And the fact that a "clone" is not important!
    1. +14
      August 5 2016
      Very simple upgrade scheme. Cornet installation can be put on the car.
      1. +9
        August 5 2016
        It’s a bit dumb to launch a rocket and sit in a fixed APC leading it (rocket) to a target (tank), the laser radiation warning system will probably work in the tank and this APC will be destroyed in high visibility with a high probability of being shot from a tank gun .
        Here we need a 3rd generation ATGM
        1. +5
          August 5 2016
          Cheap and cheerful. And at 5-5,5 km you still need to finish, and even get there.
        2. +1
          August 5 2016
          Quote: Skubudu
          the warning system about laser irradiation will probably work in the tank and this armored personnel carrier, being in direct visibility, will most likely be destroyed by a shot from the tank’s gun.

          Our ATGM does not require constant illumination of the target with a laser beam, the laser is used for primary range measurement and in the future for rocket control ... So that is not very important for our systems.
          1. +1
            August 5 2016
            Quote: svp67
            Our ATGM does not require constant illumination of the target with a laser beam, the laser is used for primary range measurement and in the future for rocket control ... So that is not very important for our systems.

            What measures the range to a moving target during a rocket flight?
            1. -2
              August 5 2016
              Quote: potroshenko
              What measures the range to a moving target during a rocket flight?

              And now there is no need for a big one. The time of the missile’s approach and the possible displacement of the target being fired is leveled by the fact that the gunner is constantly holding it at the sight and data on the displacement along the laser beam are sent to the missile.
          2. +3
            August 5 2016
            Quote: svp67
            Quote: Skubudu
            the warning system about laser irradiation will probably work in the tank and this armored personnel carrier, being in direct visibility, will most likely be destroyed by a shot from the tank’s gun.

            Our ATGM does not require constant illumination of the target with a laser beam, the laser is used for primary range measurement and in the future for rocket control ... So that is not very important for our systems.


            The Cornet control system is semi-automatic, using a laser beam. The operator must constantly see the target and manually adjust the flight of the rocket, at risk of being detected and destroyed. What is the main disadvantage of the 2nd generation ATGM, which include the Cornet.
            1. +1
              August 5 2016
              Quote: Skubudu
              The Cornet control system is semi-automatic, using a laser beam. The operator must constantly see the target and manually adjust the flight of the rocket, at risk of being detected and destroyed.

              And also just suppressed, that is, to fall under a random shelling and, accordingly, lose visual contact with the target. But this ATGM does NOT REQUIRE a constant laser target illumination
            2. 0
              August 6 2016
              And why do not control the ATGM for fiber optic noise immunity, then higher. The laser then unmasks the operator.
          3. +2
            August 5 2016
            "Our ATGM does not require constant target illumination with a laser beam" ////

            Cornet? It requires. From the very beginning to the very end.
            1. 0
              August 5 2016
              Quote: voyaka uh
              Cornet? It requires. From the very beginning to the very end.

              With all due respect, but why is she to him. Laser illumination is carried out so that the homing head, capturing the reflected signal, accurately hits the target, but it is not on the Kornet rocket. What to carry out the backlight in order to quickly find and destroy you? Do not find that only a suicide can do this
        3. 0
          August 6 2016
          Does a tank gun shoot 5,5 km?
        4. 0
          August 7 2016
          And let's imagine that the APC is behind the parapet and only its small tower is sticking out? In this case, the tank will be almost impossible to destroy it. Moreover, practice shows that at a distance of more than 2,5 km to get from a tank to someone even with modern SLAs is a very very difficult task and areas of probability theory.
        5. +1
          August 8 2016
          No time to turn the tower.
      2. +3
        August 5 2016
        Well, what, a clear business project: the armored personnel carrier is ours, the Kornet is ours, and the development is Algerian! Fuck innovation! belay
    2. +3
      August 5 2016
      Quote: dima-fesko
      The main thing is not to get to the barmaley! And the fact that a "clone" is not important!
      that's for sure. The other day I saw a photograph of "Kornet-e" at the Sinai jihadists. Unfortunately, weapons in the regions of instability are doomed to sprawl.
    3. +6
      August 5 2016
      Quote: dima-fesko
      The main thing is not to get to the barmaley! And the fact that a "clone" is not important!

      Yes, everything has already been invented, cheap and cheerful, at least hang up on Kamaz
      1. +4
        August 5 2016
        Quote: APASUS
        even hang up on Kamaz

        To do this, you can use such machines ... there would be a practical need, that is, shooting due to high shelters
        1. +2
          August 5 2016
          Quote: svp67
          To do this, you can use such machines ... there would be a practical need, that is, shooting due to high shelters

          Do not say so, yet starting from a height has certain advantages
          1. 0
            August 5 2016
            Quote: APASUS
            Do not say so, yet starting from a height has certain advantages

            Let's just say, in this situation, if one well-prepared calculation of a 120-mm mortar opened fire on these tanks, it could achieve a more impressive result.
            1. 0
              August 6 2016
              you won’t get into the tank with a mortar.
  2. +4
    August 5 2016
    I wonder what's Algerian? hands for assembly if only
    1. +2
      August 5 2016
      Quote: lav67
      I wonder what's Algerian? hands for assembly if only

      Yeah, and also the identification marks on the armor ...
  3. +8
    August 5 2016
    Are they going to fight with Maroco? There was information that the T-90 will be purchased in the amount of almost 500 pieces! And combat helicopters were already delivered. Algeria is arming itself with Russian weapons, and seriously. Well, just come on to our military-industrial complex.
    1. +3
      August 5 2016
      There Maroko is the tenth in line. A lot of small and restless southern neighbors who got the Moroccans out of their internal problems. And in the east, Libya is crazy.
    2. 0
      August 5 2016
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Are they going to fight with Maroco? There was information that the T-90 will be purchased in the amount of almost 500 pieces! And combat helicopters were already delivered. Algeria is arming itself with Russian weapons, and seriously. Well, just come on to our military-industrial complex.

      So they already have 300 T-90S ...
    3. +5
      August 5 2016
      Moroccans prefer Western weapons, and Algerians Soviet (Russian). It must be admitted that Algeria is one of the most powerful armies of the continent on paper. And I don’t think they want to fight - they just put Cornet on wheels, and at least some kind of armor, strengthening the armament of the old armored personnel carrier (not in the landfill).
      Actually, the situation in Africa is difficult. In addition to Libya, the CAR, Sudan, Somalia, Chad, Mali, etc. now in the red zone for the terrorist threat. If you also imagine that among the African "crime" there are many children with AK, then you yourself understand how the bearded men use them. Fusion of this afr. crime with bearded men is already underway (weapons, ivory, and other smuggling almost freely cross the borders of these very poor countries). I am afraid that these countries are next in a series of countries that are plunging into anarchy and lawlessness. hi
      I remember many specialists traveled to Algeria: from teachers to engineers and the military.
    4. 0
      August 5 2016
      there is still Libya
    5. +1
      August 5 2016
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      War fights have already been delivered. Algeria is arming itself with Russian weapons, and seriously ...

      The lesson of Libya for the future has gone.
      1. +3
        August 5 2016
        Tatar 174, good day! I wouldn't say that. Algeria is pursuing a systematic and consistent policy on arms purchases. They just didn't flog the fever. They have S-300P, Pantsiri and Su-30 (Algerian version) with MiG-25, Smerchi and submarines, etc. On paper they are better armed than their neighbors put together. Mostly Soviet-Russian, but there are, for example, intelligence. American-made aircraft, there are Chinese weapons, Europe; but the "shock" is practically all ours.
        Algerians are still grateful to us - we even created a university for them, guiding our scientists and teachers. We must hold on to Algeria, it was ours, there is and I hope there will be a stronghold in Africa. Everything was there, but the fact that they are buying Russian weapons says a lot. hi
  4. 0
    August 5 2016
    The main weapon of which is the Kornet ATGM will not leave any chance of salvation for the Abramsam and MBT-2000 neighbors in service

    Well, does Algeria have graters from Morocco?
    1. +5
      August 5 2016
      Yes, they have some disagreements.
      But the question is slightly different: the rational use of the base of old armored personnel carriers for anti-tank installations is cheap and cheerful.
    2. GAF
      +2
      August 5 2016
      Quote: Leto
      Well, does Algeria have graters from Morocco?

      For half a century there has been a sluggish conflict over Western Sahara, the territory of which was illegally "privatized" by the Moroccans with the approval of the United States and England. Algeria supported the Frente Polisario, a movement of the local population for independence. The price of the issue is the large reserves of mineral resources and fish in coastal waters.
  5. +7
    August 5 2016
    A loud statement, only military use will show its effectiveness. The use of perfume ATGM in pickups also showed that they can extinguish armored vehicles well, although the installation platform is excellent, there is a chance to withstand small arms.
    1. 0
      August 5 2016
      Quote: Koresh
      A loud statement, only military use will show its effectiveness. The use of perfume ATGM in pickups also showed that they can extinguish armored vehicles well, although the installation platform is excellent, there is a chance to withstand small arms.

      I agree, and there is also such a carrier that it can break through with a simple KK, it was not easier to bring a crowd of abreks with "cornet" to one of the armored personnel carriers, to drop off, disperse - nevertheless, IMHO, there are more chances than this "Lego".
      1. +2
        August 5 2016
        Let me ... but the armored personnel carrier of the armored vehicles, for example 60, doesn’t beat either 14,5 or 12,7 in the forehead, and to say that everything is breaking through, so only sign that those who drive the APC go around booby boobies, exposing themselves to a blow.
        Don't you know that for example we have a Chrysanthemum, is it booked like a tank? No, the armor is a little stronger than that of the armored personnel carrier, the essence of the application is the same.
        The use of such machines-PT reserve, jumped, shot, left ...
        1. +2
          August 5 2016
          I agree shot back and left, also an ambush application. It must be taken into account that the survivability of a pickup is very low, which, when detected by the enemy, is easily destroyed even by small arms. here the question is how much such a platform is in storage? How easy it is sometimes to make cheap and cheerful, and the effect will be better in application, and sell to countries that are not rich.
          And for the RF Armed Forces, the Chrysanthemum for the airborne units is the very thing as a means of fighting against tanks and low flying targets.
          1. +4
            August 5 2016
            That's right, we can have Chrysanthemum, and they have what they have, but in fact the result is the same for the enemy.
            We still have enough old armored personnel carriers in storage, so such a modular design has a right to exist.
            The right approach to this is in the army of the Republic of Belarus, where the modernization of even the old BRDM -2 gave a good car by today's standards.

            By the way, this is not for you, sorry-MINUSATORS — I remember in the VO Rules there is a clause on the intentional reduction of the rate, isn't it?
            Therefore, the question arises for Romanov — are you on duty today, and YOU do not see or condon lawlessness?
            Perhaps you need to contact the Chief Administrator in order to bring you to life?
            1. +2
              August 5 2016
              This is just another matter, the RF Armed Forces are moving to unified platforms and modularity, which is very good. Do you want the BMP to put another module, the means of PT put another. Both interchangeability and repair capacity are higher, and production is cheaper.
              P.S. The minus is not I slapped.
              1. +2
                August 5 2016
                Yes, I agree, but you understand that if there is a war and what is now, it will be spent quickly, and in return, the industry will not have time to make up for the losses, it will have to do some kind of modernization of obsolete models. Mobilization science and such provides. In the past, enterprises had reserved capacities, however, now it seems that we are returning to this, which in itself is wonderful.
                And I have nothing against modularity, and I am writing about this, the old models-BTR, BMP 1, we still have enough.
              2. 0
                August 5 2016
                The minus posed to you by someone, corrected ... someone is clearly dissatisfied with the fact that the conversation has constructive meaning, and not a stupid utryakvasgazkamlenie.
            2. +2
              August 5 2016
              Quote: The Bloodthirster
              Therefore, the question arises for Romanov — are you on duty today, and YOU do not see or condon lawlessness?
              Perhaps you need to contact the Chief Administrator in order to bring you to life?

              stop the tantrum, keep yourself in control, if you have such a nervous attitude towards the minuses, then you probably shouldn't go here.
              1. 0
                August 5 2016
                I do not need your instructions.
                I’ll also note that hysterics suffer some other, rushing around the site for all my comments, WITHOUT at least trying to somehow protest what was said.
                Is it a manifestation of poverty of intellect or something else that is punishable by the Rules of VO
              2. 0
                August 5 2016

                Quote: The Bloodthirster
                sit in emergency situations, cool off the trochs.

                oh, the lady was offended

                we will analyze
                PLA’s revolutionary reform dislikes neither China’s neighbors nor the United States
                It’s interesting, who cares so much for the USA that the minus came in and silently


                The parable of the Russian bell and the Russian premiere
                The official question is for the ADMINISTRATOR of the site.
                MINUSATORS - I remember in the VO Rules there is a clause on the intentional reduction of the rate, is not it?
                And here for 20 minutes from 105 to minus 65, how is it?

                Therefore, the question arises for Romanov — are you on duty today, YOU do not see or condon lawlessness?


                | Algerian "tank killer"
                The minus posed to you by someone, corrected ... someone is clearly dissatisfied with the fact that the conversation has constructive meaning, and not a stupid utryakvasgazkamlenie.

                total, a tantrum from minuses in all topics.
          2. +1
            August 5 2016
            Quote: Koresh
            I agree shot back and left, also an ambush application. It must be taken into account that the survivability of a pickup is very low, which, when detected by the enemy, is easily destroyed even by small arms.

            a pickup truck has more than one plus - stealth, speed and mobility - but here there is always such a balance or speed and mobility or protection.
            Moreover, the level of protection even 80ki extremely weak for the spacecraft and especially against cannon weapons.

            An ambush can be made from anything and from a pickup truck and without equipment - dropped a couple of operators in the bushes and an ambush is ready, and they are even more difficult to detect than the "coffin" of an armored personnel carrier.

            It seems to me that the variation of the Tiger, or the presence in the complex is quite optimal — to make a separate car — even with such a loud title — well, wait and see.
  6. +1
    August 5 2016
    Sounds like a clever piece of LEGO history. The parts made in Russia were rearranged and a new "apparatus" appeared.
  7. +2
    August 5 2016
    "killer of tanks"

    "Cornet is good, but based on the APC?
    1. +1
      August 5 2016
      So it seems to me that it would be better in the old fashioned way on BRDM. But apparently they simply have nowhere to put the old sixties, so they made the ersatz BM-ATGM.
  8. +2
    August 5 2016
    And for me it’s so good! If only because we (or with our help) did something else in Africa!
  9. +2
    August 5 2016
    And that, brought the fighters, hid. Send tanks - a concert on request!
  10. +1
    August 5 2016
    I myself served on the BTR 60PB, I went to Gorky to get the BTR 70, so in 3 photos the BTR 70, nose, feed, mufflers, BTR 70. I certainly understand that this is not so important, but still
    1. +1
      August 5 2016
      I'm happy for you. And after school (70s) I had to serve first on BMP-1, which I was very happy about, and then on BTR 60-P (canvas top) and BTR 60-PA (without a tower and naturally KPVT). But in spite of this, they fulfilled their tasks, although it was insulting that new equipment was in service in the western districts.
  11. 0
    August 5 2016
    If there is an old technique, you need to use it. Better than Tiger or Hammer. Air conditioning set interesting?
  12. +1
    August 5 2016
    Gaddafi would be alive, he would say: buy layered air defense and coastal defense systems, the rest will wait.

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