Westinghouse to build nuclear fuel plant in Ukraine

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Speaking at a press conference in Kiev today, Igor Nasalik, head of the Ministry of Energy and Coal Industry of Ukraine, told media representatives about the agreements with the American company Westinghouse. According to Nasalik, American and Swedish experts will build a plant for the production of nuclear fuel in Ukraine. Statement by the head of the Ministry of Energy and Coal department press service.

We agreed to diversify supplies to nearly half of the nuclear power units (NPPs) and agreed to build a nuclear fuel plant in Ukraine.


To entrust the present-day Ukraine plant for the production of nuclear fuel for nuclear power plants is a strong move of the West ...

In addition, Nasalik announced that the program of interaction with the American "Westinghouse" is aimed "at reducing the Russian share in terms of the work of Ukrainian NPPs." According to the Ukrainian minister, today 95% of the fuel used by Ukraine is produced in Russia. At the same time, the official added: "In the nuclear industry," serious diversification is required. "

Westinghouse to build nuclear fuel plant in Ukraine


During the press conference, the Minister of Energy and Coal Industry of Ukraine confirmed the intention to create a nuclear waste storage facility in the exclusion zone near Chernobyl.

Nasalik quotes the site "Correspondent":

An agreement was signed, and when traveling to the USA and a loan agreement for 260 million dollars - for the construction of a dry storage facility for spent nuclear fuel to be built in the Chernobyl zone ... This is not only a highly economical and cost-effective project, but we can diversify spent nuclear fuel.


The phrase “we can diversify spent nuclear fuel” was not understood even by experts. But the public Maidan understood right away, stressing that we are talking about the dumping of nuclear fuel “at home” - without being sent to the special storage facilities of “Rosatom” in the Russian Federation. The same Maidan public considered this an important peremog.
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  1. +83
    August 4 2016
    "But the Maidan public immediately understood, stressing that we are talking about burying nuclear fuel" at home "- without sending it to the special storage facilities of Rosatom in the Russian Federation. The same Maidan public considered this an important change."

    I hate our housing and communal services, now I won’t wash the shit out of their pipes, I’ll put it in my small room. Yes
    1. +12
      August 4 2016
      In spite of mom frostbitten ears. This, campaign, is the current motto of Ukraine.
      1. +24
        August 4 2016
        Fallout 5 - Ukraine Edition .....
        1. +8
          August 4 2016
          Quote: lelikas
          Fallout 5 - Ukraine Edition .....

          "404" game over? belay
          1. +49
            August 4 2016
            Quote: Vladimirets
            The same Maidan public considered this an important challenge

            This herd will count as a few "leaders" tell them from their media screens. They said peremoga means peremoga.

            Quote: Vladimirets
            I hate our housing and communal services, now I won’t wash the shit out of their pipes, I’ll put it in my small room

            Uh, no. Everything is much worse here - if you look closely at the details.
            The fact is that we are supplying new fuel elements for reactors and taking away old ones not because we are kind and care about Ukraine. This is an important detail of nuclear energy control - from spent rods and waste it is possible, technically, to extract the enriched nuclear component (uranium \ plutonium \ isotopes) and create nuclear weapons (of course, this is a technologically complex and lengthy process). And so, in order to prevent the leakage of hazardous materials, the party supplying fuel is obliged, according to international standards, to process the waste (at least a certain part of it that represents the greatest danger) in the load on the contract.
            Roughly speaking, this is a tool for controlling the spread of nuclear weapons in the world.
            So what do we see in this news? Will Ukraine keep old fuel elements from reactors? Horseradish with two they will be allowed to do this - neither we nor the IAEA.
            So what spent nuclear fuel will they store, if not their own?
            They do not just refuse to flush their toilet — they, in the DUEST manner, take a pan-European sewer of radioactive waste into their apartment. And maybe not only European.
            The "plant" will not even need to work for production - it can serve as a warehouse for waste without it.
            And this is a huge business worth billions of dollars that Europeans will pay to Americans to dump shit on a cheaply bought site from Ukraine. An attempt to make TVELs for the Soviet type of speaker was not there.
            This is just how stupid cattle you need to be in order to poison your own country and then watch how your children are born with genetic pathologies or various forms of cancer. And the saddest thing is that they won’t even get paid for it ...
            1. +8
              August 4 2016
              Quote: Darkmor
              This is just how stupid cattle you need to be in order to poison your own country and then watch how your children are born with genetic pathologies

              They don’t look so far ...
              1. 0
                August 4 2016
                They will look at their children in pure Europe or in the states. And they will prepare trash for the students. Where are the people looking? And all this is near at hand recourse
            2. +3
              August 4 2016
              Quote: Darkmor
              Will Ukraine keep old fuel elements from reactors?


              Do not boil, VVER reactors are not suitable for the reproduction of weapons-grade plutonium. Chernobyl on time disabled. The providence of the Lord ... that everything is done for the better.
              1. +2
                August 4 2016
                The descendants of Velikoukrov will be the first to learn to breathe underwater without scuba gear, fly with wings and dig minks with their nose! wassat
            3. 0
              August 4 2016
              They were going to drag this rubbish to themselves from all over the world; they want to arrange a burial ground in the Chernobyl zone.
            4. +1
              August 4 2016
              This is just how stupid cattle you need to be in order to poison your own country and then watch how your children are born with genetic pathologies or various forms of cancer. And the saddest thing is that they won’t even get paid for it ...

              It is necessary to study at the Obninsk Institute of Atomic Energy ... For a lack of education can lead to such ... that then the whole EU will be unraveling, and a barrel will roll to Russia. Fukushima still buzzes around. AHZ how long can you step on a rake. And our "brothers in mind" are clearly going to the fatal line. And since ... Russia will have to row, first of all.
        2. +7
          August 4 2016
          Smacks of real STALKER. Even a little sorry ... but not, it seemed. laughing
        3. +2
          August 4 2016
          One continuous anomalous zone for the entire 404 stuffed with nuclear waste, the prophetic STALKER characters do not need to invent. In the role of usurers-traders, you yourself know who, everything else comes from the Maidan. And yes, as a controller, they have a pastor along the way.
          1. +1
            August 4 2016
            Well, if the monolith burned out all the brains? )))
        4. 0
          August 4 2016
          More precisely, it should be expressed, a complete paragraph ...
          Quote: lelikas
          Fallout 5 - Ukraine Edition .....
      2. +20
        August 4 2016
        In spite of my mother-in-law ---- I will beat my eye out ---- let my son-in-law have a fool ----- disabled !!!!
        1. +7
          August 4 2016
          Quote: Reptiloid
          In spite of my mother-in-law ---- I will beat my eye out ---- let my son-in-law have a fool ----- disabled !!!!

          pralno! Man! both knock it out, let it go soooo! Yes drinks
      3. +29
        August 4 2016
        Information about the construction of a dry storage facility for spent nuclear fuel was slyly presented. Plant, ! All over the world, the nuclear fuel supplier takes on the responsibility for the subsequent removal and disposal of spent fuel. And only suckers "vparili" storage of waste on their own territory. A garbage country.
        1. +1
          August 4 2016
          Quote: Denis Obukhov
          All over the world, the nuclear fuel supplier takes on the responsibility for the subsequent removal and disposal of spent fuel. And only suckers "vparili" storage of waste on their own territory. A garbage country.

          It’s strange then that RosAtom takes money for receiving spent fuel
          Rosatom has stopped the export of spent nuclear fuel from Ukraine
          The removal of spent nuclear fuel from Ukraine has been postponed due to debt, but in the future Rosatom intends to resume cooperation with the Ukrainian side, said the representative of the Russian company Oleg Kryukov.


          And so where else to build such objects if not in the exclusion zone.
          1. +8
            August 4 2016
            Quote: Kars
            It’s strange then that RosAtom takes money for receiving spent fuel

            colleague, so we, saving you, and ourselves, and our neighbors, take this muck to dispose of!, Kars, you are an adequate man, you should know ...
            1. +1
              August 4 2016
              Quote: Andrey Yurievich
              colleague, so we, saving you, and ourselves, and our neighbors, take this muck to dispose of!, Kars, you are an adequate man, you should know ...

              Well what are you) here the whole point is not in salvation but only in business)
              Quote: Observer 33
              Such facilities generally do not need to be built anywhere. Spent fuel must be taken to an enterprise that deals with its (fuel) utilization, processing, etc.

              So in the news it is also written) that they are going to build a plant for the production of fuel elements. There and recycle)

              Projects for such factories and storage facilities whatever you worry were planned before the Maidan
              22.08.2013
              THE COMPLEX FOR REFINING SOLID RADIOACTIVE WASTE AT THE ZAPORIZHIA NPP IS FILLED WITH NEW EQUIPMENT

              Of all Ukrainian nuclear power plants, only Zaporizhzhya NPP has a solid radioactive waste (RW) incinerator. The new installation was designed taking into account strict European and Ukrainian environmental standards, therefore both the operation of the equipment itself and the product resulting from the combustion will be safe.

              The installation of large-sized equipment of the incinerator, the manufacturer of which is the Spanish company Iberdrola, began in June this year. At the project site, a three-dimensional design of a solid radioactive waste incinerator weighing about 28 tons was installed, as well as several elements of a gas cleaning system - a boiler, a bag filter and an ash discharge unit.

              I wrote back then that it is better to build this in Chernobyl.
              1. +12
                August 4 2016
                Quote: Kars
                So in the news it is also written) that they are going to build a plant for the production of fuel elements. There and recycle)

                Blessed is he who believes. You generally have some blessed ones there ...
                Where is it written about to recycle? It says about the dry storage, the dump is colloquially ...
                Quote: Kars
                Projects for such factories and storage facilities whatever you worry were planned before the Maidan

                Forget everything that was before the Maidan. Show me at least one released project after ..?
              2. +4
                August 4 2016
                Quote: Kars
                The installation of large-sized equipment of the incinerator, the manufacturer of which is the Spanish company Iberdrola, began in June this year.

                All that the Spanish Iberdrola has to offer is the construction of nuclear power units with Canadian reactors of the CANDU type.
                Here there was a speech by Andrey Derkach, General Director of Ukratomprom Group of Companies, but I think now Poroshenko will put uranium on his head if Moscow does not like it
                Coincidentally, on the same day, a press conference was held by the president of the NNEGC Energoatom, the general director of the State Corporation Ukratomprom Andrey Derkach, who unequivocally stated that he considered it inappropriate to build this type of reactor in Ukraine.

                “Neither South Korea, which built these blocks and which will develop PWR, nor Europe, go to this technology. To experiment with questions related to the choice of block type is a great, very expensive and unnecessary pleasure, ”he said. Thus, the topic for discussion was outlined, the subject of which is really very important for the future of nuclear energy in Ukraine.
              3. +3
                August 4 2016
                Projects for such factories and storage facilities whatever you worry were planned before the Maidan
                but how not to worry? Your "power" has decided the fate of millions of people, or do you think the opinion of Belarusians does not count? Do you even imagine the consequences?
              4. +2
                August 4 2016
                I read an article not so long ago, I can throw it off
                http://for-ua.info/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=47523
                Moreover. this is wa, not ru. Read the enlightenment.
                Incidentally, I advise everyone.
                1. +4
                  August 4 2016
                  It is unclear why the minus. This is not to say that ya, it is better than ru, but to ensure that they do not write "this is Surkov's propaganda" and "well, of course" ru "and they will not write to them to believe it. The article is extensive, written quite easily.
            2. +2
              August 4 2016
              Quote: Andrey Yurievich
              Quote: Kars
              It’s strange then that RosAtom takes money for receiving spent fuel

              colleague, so we, saving you, and ourselves, and our neighbors, take this muck to dispose of!, Kars, you are an adequate man, you should know ...

              Take a look on the Internet. We take it all for money (!) To bury it at home. We expand our storages for this, to the local population, on the ... army, in simple terms. Look about the Primorsky Territory, they have been burying here for a long time for money. They promised to repair roads under this business, naturally, they cheated (it is said very weakly, people are expressed more strongly here). Only the top of Rosatom and the local rat nouveau riche have enriched themselves, now we have the mayor.
              1. 0
                August 4 2016
                Quote: vasiliev yu
                Take a look on the Internet. We take it all for money (!) To bury it at home. We expand our storages for this, to the local population, on the ... army, in simple terms. Look about the Primorsky Territory, they have been burying here for a long time for money. They promised to repair roads under this business, naturally, they cheated (it is said very weakly, people are expressed more strongly here). Only the top of Rosatom and the local rat nouveau riche have enriched themselves, now we have the mayor.

                Are you a supporter of IT being done for free?
                1. +1
                  August 4 2016
                  Quote: Andrey Yurievich
                  Quote: vasiliev yu
                  Take a look on the Internet. We take it all for money (!) To bury it at home. We expand our storages for this, to the local population, on the ... army, in simple terms. Look about the Primorsky Territory, they have been burying here for a long time for money. They promised to repair roads under this business, naturally, they cheated (it is said very weakly, people are expressed more strongly here). Only the top of Rosatom and the local rat nouveau riche have enriched themselves, now we have the mayor.

                  Are you a supporter of IT being done for free?

                  Hello Jura !!
                  He is a supporter that would be buried in Ukraine wassat
                  And the people say no, we have better laughing
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                  2. 0
                    August 6 2016
                    Just came here today.
                    Thank you for understanding, I do not like idiots who are not able to anticipate the consequences of such cases, the same okologiya, etc.
                2. +1
                  August 4 2016
                  So that the money received for keeping this "crap" goes to the development of the infrastructure of the Primorsky Territory, and not to a bunch of villains.
                3. -2
                  August 6 2016
                  I am a supporter of not littering my land with other people's waste. What, our guano is not enough with us?
                  If you do not understand. Or do you believe that everything is strictly there and safe? A naive Chukchi boy? (As in the anode). You probably don’t live near storage facilities? Nothing, our government and people like you will quickly fix it, soon there will be cesspools everywhere.
                  By the way there is no desire to find out oncology statistics in the Primorsky Territory? Or do you say the wind blew from Chernobyl?
          2. +1
            August 4 2016
            Quote: Kars
            And so where else to build such objects if not in the exclusion zone.

            Such facilities generally do not need to be built anywhere. Spent fuel must be taken to an enterprise that deals with its (fuel) utilization, processing, etc.
            1. +1
              August 4 2016
              Quote: Observer 33
              Quote: Kars
              And so where else to build such objects if not in the exclusion zone.

              Such facilities generally do not need to be built anywhere. Spent fuel must be taken to an enterprise that deals with its (fuel) utilization, processing, etc.

              Do you want spent Ukrainian fuel in Russia?
              So, after all, it’s like-who produced -that and stores the waste
              1. +7
                August 4 2016
                Quote: atalef
                Do you want spent Ukrainian fuel in Russia?

                Do you know what infrastructure RosAtom has? Or do you think that he is stupidly burying them? Another thing is that recycling is fun, not cheap.
                You know, it would be absolutely all the same to me if they brought radioactive trash from all European nuclear power plants (and it will be so), to the repository located in 140 km. from the border with Israel.
                And in the Bryansk region, and now radiation monitoring, stands on his ears, after the fires in their exclusion zone.
                Quote: atalef
                So, after all, it’s like-who produced -that and stores the waste

                That's not the point. The fact is that the atomic "toys" were in the hands of the rogules in a state of dementia, on the one hand. And funny guys from overseas who put experiments on them, on the other.
                Only here they rooted there, not alone, people live around them.
                1. -5
                  August 4 2016
                  Quote: Observer 33
                  Do you know what infrastructure RosAtom has?

                  Well, it does, and Westinghouse has 2 times more power, do you know that?
                  Westinghouse is currently engaged in the design of nuclear power units, while being the world's leading nuclear pressure water reactor and boiling reactor (reactor designs: AP600 - certified by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission in 1999, AP1000 - expected to end certification in 2004 , the concept of the next decade - ISIR). Westinghouse is also one of the leaders in the production of fuel for nuclear power plants (about 20% of all world supplies of reactor fuel) - the so-called. fuel elements (fuel elements).

                  Currently, about 75% of the global nuclear fuel market (whose annual turnover is more than 35 billion US dollars) is divided between three world-class companies: US-Japanese Westinghouse (31%), French Areva (27%) and Russian TVEL FC (17%)[5].

                  Quote: Observer 33
                  Or do you think that he is stupidly burying them? Another thing is that recycling is fun, not cheap.

                  So I did not understand, Rosatom is processing fuel at a loss? belay
                  Quote: Observer 33
                  You know, it would be absolutely all the same to me if they brought radioactive trash from all European nuclear power plants (and it will be so), to the repository located in 140 km. from the border with Israel.

                  And in the region of Chelyabinsk (MCC) - the Russians do not live?
                  Why do you think that transporting fuel across Russia and processing it there is safer than in Ukraine?
                  Quote: Observer 33
                  And in the Bryansk region, and now radiation monitoring, stands on his ears, after the fires in their exclusion zone.

                  What does this have to do with it?
                  Quote: Observer 33
                  The fact is that the atomic "toys" were in the hands of the rogules in a state of dementia, on the one hand. And funny guys from overseas who put experiments on them, on the other.
                  Only here they rooted there, not alone, people live around them.

                  How do you sustain this? Your insenuations?
                  This whole scream is for one simple reason. RosAtom is afraid to lose a segment of the Ukrainian fuel market, and then (at the beginning of the production of fuel for the USSR / Russian builders - built) compete with Westinghouse, having lost a monopoly.
                  That's all - just grandmas and nothing more.
                  This gwalt reminds me of the hype around the type of fairy tale, shale gas and oil, a divorce, they will poison the whole earth - and there it turned.
                  1. +8
                    August 4 2016
                    Quote: atalef
                    This gwalt reminds me of the hype around the type of fairy tale, shale gas and oil, a divorce, they will poison the whole earth - and there it turned.

                    And how did it turn? I believed that Israel is on our planet. Not?
                    Quote: atalef
                    Well, it does, and Westinghouse has 2 times more power, do you know that?

                    I know. I know that they produce twice as much shit. Give the numbers how much they process for themselves, and to what stage.
                    Quote: atalef
                    How do you sustain this?

                    I’m not going to suffer, I’m like in a decent place ...
                    In general, I think that you should not care about this, you should not be in Russia and not in Ukraine. And the environmental situation bothers me a little. I live here, my country. And unlike some, I’m not going to run, so I’m worried.
                    1. -4
                      August 4 2016
                      Quote: Observer 33
                      And how did it turn? I believed that Israel is on our planet. Not?

                      Oops, and then why?
                      Shale oil production in Russia will become profitable in 2017

                      Read more at RBC:
                      http://www.rbc.ru/business/20/03/2015/550ae9aa9a794789932f0dab

                      Quote: Observer 33
                      I know. I know that they produce twice as much shit. Give the numbers how much they process for themselves, and to what stage.

                      Well you know you and give laughing
                      Quote: Observer 33
                      In general, I think that you should not care about this, you should not be in Russia and, not in Ukraine

                      I'm actually on the site, but at the same time, of course, I will disappoint.
                      I have Russian citizenship, and my wife is Ukraine laughing

                      Quote: Observer 33
                      And the environmental situation bothers me a little. I live here, my country

                      Well, GUGL to help (Russia's nuclear burial grounds) - then blew up the ass from the couch, a banner in the hands and a demonstration
                      But you
                      Quote: Observer 33
                      Unlike some, I’m not going to run, because I’m worried.

                      I hope to see your photo report in the near future, as always with respect hi
                      1. +8
                        August 4 2016
                        Quote: atalef
                        Oops, and then why?

                        Yes, because the media. Media for those who do not know how to count.
                        Quote: atalef
                        Well you know you and give

                        "A worthy answer, an adult." I will not give, I remembered about "beads in front of pigs", for some reason.
                        Quote: atalef
                        I have Russian citizenship, and my wife is Ukraine

                        It is sad that the passport with the emblem of MY great country is in his hands, unworthy.
                        Quote: atalef
                        then blew his ass off the couch, a banner in his hands and a demonstration
                        But you

                        YOU are ... Hold the voice! Teach your wife with dill passport to cook borsch. And then I look began to command? Well, come from exile, command here, sec. 15 ...
                        Quote: atalef
                        I hope to see your photo report in the near future, as always with respect

                        Respect? No. And this is mutual.
                        But I will answer, according to demonstrations, I don’t go. On flash mobs too. But on extinguishing forest fires I spend half my vacation annually. Volunteer, I'm going, I am landing and horseradish with a shovel and a pump-action sprayer. In the fall I ride. This is forest restoration. This year at Olkhon ...
                        This is hard, manual work. And I didn’t see those who were at demonstrations with banners. Yes, I forgot, they also don’t pay for it, they only feed, but, not regularly, there are interruptions. There you go.
                        And what do you do with Russian citizenship?
                  2. +8
                    August 4 2016
                    Quote: atalef
                    Well, it does, and Westinghouse has 2 times more power, do you know that?

                    oh well but i have some other data

                    The results of the rotation of the Soviet / Russian "needle" are annually summed up by the IAEA. The world capacity of uranium enrichment plants in 2015 amounted to 57 thousand units of separation work. The capacity of TVEL's factories is 073. 26% of world capacities. However, one can also take into account China, where the enrichment is carried out on the Soviet centrifuges of the sixth generation - 578 thousand SWU. Then the Russian share of fuel production for nuclear power plants is 46,6%. Such is the arithmetic. And, finally, again about Viktor Sergeev. Rosatom sold an enrichment plant to China: in 4, cascades of 220th generation centrifuges were supplied to Shaanxi for $ 54 billion. How the Chinese know how to copy technology is known: anything, quickly and cheaper than the original. Russian centrifuges were dismantled to the last screw - but now it's already 2008, and there is still no information that the Chinese coped with copying their manufacturing technology. And in Russia, Rosatom launched the 1th generation centrifuges in 6, after which it was time for the R&D of generation 2016.

                    Source: http://for-ua.info/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=47523
                  3. 0
                    August 4 2016
                    Quote: atalef
                    How do you sustain this? Your insеnuations?

                    It seems to be "insиnuances "? Or in Israel" e "is the same as" and "? I, of course," dead "killed" Klava ", but still trying to fight with" confusion "...
                  4. +6
                    August 4 2016
                    [quote = atalef] Well, it does, and Westinghouse has 2 times more power, do you know that? [/ quote]

                    Westinghouse from which uranium has been assembling its assemblies since 1993. to 2014 (country of origin)? I'm talking about deliveries under the Russian-American HEU-LEU agreement, which covered 38% of the US nuclear power requirements for low enriched uranium and 12% of Western European nuclear power plants.

                    alef] Currently, about 75% of the global nuclear fuel market (whose annual turnover is more than 35 billion US dollars), is divided between three world-class companies: US-Japan Westinghouse (31%), French Areva (27%) and Russian TC TVEL (17%) [5]. [/ Quote]

                    Again, in order to produce fuel for nuclear power plants, raw materials are needed - low-enriched uranium, the availability of which in the United States is a huge problem. They are until 1993. they sent their warheads into the furnace, because the technological process of enrichment of uranium ore is flawed - the gaseous diffuse sample of 1945. While in the USSR since 1952. to the present time, a centrifugal one is being practiced (centrifuges of the 4th generation are already in use, which are several orders of magnitude more efficient than the best western production of URENCO). Now let's see what are the volumes of production of low-enriched uranium in the world: TVEL FC and JSC Techsnabexport - 45%; URENCO - 20% (Anglo-Harmano-Dutch company), AREVA - 19% (France), USEC - 11% (USA). And 5% - other manufacturers, I think Iran, Pakistan, South Africa, possibly Israel ... It will be difficult, with 11% of the world's raw materials, even with twice as excellent production capacity (?), To compete in such a specific service market. Unless you have bought the giblets of the governments of a number of states on their haunches, thousands of military bases around the world and unlimited dollar emission. And if they also give you European arbitration, then in general, happiness will come. Westinghouse forever! By the way, the Russian Federation produces more fuel for nuclear power plants than all these countries (leading economies of the world) combined.

                    [quote = atalef] Westinghouse is also one of the leaders in the production of fuel for nuclear power plants (about 20% of all global reactor fuel supplies) - the so-called. fuel elements (fuel elements).
                    [/ Quote]

                    And TVEL FC is an exceptional leader with 100% of the global supply of reactor fuel for Soviet-Russian-made reactors. So what? Westinghouse’s dependence on Russian raw materials was discussed above, while 17% of the same TVEL FC is uncritically less than 20% of Westingauz’s, this is not the case. The Americans do not play by the rules, they are now creating a really dangerous situation in Ukraine and this is bothering us. It’s not the market, they really lost fear ...
                    1. +2
                      August 4 2016
                      It’s not the market, they really lost fear.


                      I don't know about fear, but my conscience is complete. What is it worth for them under the loud words "about gigantic investments" under Peter Ukrainsky to arrange a radio cemetery in Chernobyl. Nothing. A dozen barges of radioactive debris will be delivered and thrown. Money has no conscience.
          3. +3
            August 4 2016
            Quote: Kars
            All over the world, the nuclear fuel supplier takes on the responsibility for the subsequent removal and disposal of spent fuel. And only suckers "vparili" storage of waste on their own territory. A garbage country.

            The US has a Congressional veto on waste recovery, although it is a profitable business with recycling technology
            It’s strange then that RosAtom takes money for receiving spent fuel

            An additional service that you can refuse as well as you can refuse the engine when buying a car.
            1. +7
              August 4 2016
              Quote: BARKAS
              The US has a Congressional veto on waste recovery, although it is a profitable business with recycling technology


              The United States does not have the ability to reprocess spent nuclear fuel. There are no such technologies. Today, only the Russian Federation can do this at the Beloyarsk NPP (3 BN-600 power unit, 4 BN-800 power unit, both fast neutron reactors) ...
              1. +4
                August 4 2016
                Thank you, colleague.
                I’m already tired of repeating this here.
              2. +1
                August 4 2016
                The United States does not have the ability to reprocess spent nuclear fuel. There are no such technologies. Today, only the Russian Federation can do this at the Beloyarsk NPP (3 BN-600 power unit, 4 BN-800 power unit, both fast neutron reactors).


                Something wrong. The states have fast neutron reactors. It will be necessary to understand the issue.
                1. +13
                  August 4 2016
                  Quote: Alex_Tug
                  The states have fast neutron reactors.


                  The abbreviation “BN” is not only “fast neutrons”, but also “fast, sodium”. In the “coil” it is not water that spins in it, but liquid sodium. Sodium melts at 97 degrees, boils at 880 degrees. It is logical that it can take away a higher temperature on itself, and the pressure in the “coil” is as high as in the case of water. But another misfortune emerges: when combined with oxygen in the air, liquid sodium burns with terrible force: any leakage and a full tryndets. But the great country of America knows how to make such a reactor, edren-loaf! Experimental. Little. France also knows how. Little. Experimental. American - burned out. French - burned out. The Japanese tried it, but in 2010 a pipe with fuel fell off and stupidly drowned in sodium, and there Fukushima also shook — they turned it around and forgot, and scored it. And what is there (that is, here) quilted jackets in felt boots? Horror with them, horror-horror. After all, in the USSR, foreign newspapers could not be reached, not read - these quilted jackets did not know a damn thing. Worked and worked. They worked on experimental sodium technology. In 1980 in Beloyarsk industrial was built - BN-600. No accidents, no fires ... Just now the BN-800 was plugged into the network - it works and it works. Savages. Gas station. Nowhere in the world is there - but it works here. Horror.

                  Source: http://for-ua.info/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=47523
          4. +7
            August 4 2016
            Quote: Kars
            It’s strange then that RosAtom takes money for receiving spent fuel

            So we have recycling. after that 97% is returned back in the form of fuel, plus elements, for example, necessary for medicine, are allocated. And in Chernobyl, caring Americans will put metal barrels in the open and pour them with radioactive liquid from all over Europe and the United States. Ukrainian officials are deceiving you by calling the landfill for waste storage a recycling plant. None of the adequate investors will invest in Ukraine’s nuclear fuel reprocessing plants, but yes, it’s very cost-effective!
            1. -6
              August 4 2016
              Quote: JonnyT
              Quote: Kars
              It’s strange then that RosAtom takes money for receiving spent fuel

              So we have recycling. after that 97% is returned back in the form of fuel, plus elements, for example, necessary for medicine, are allocated. And in Chernobyl, caring Americans will put metal barrels in the open and pour them with radioactive liquid from all over Europe and the United States. Ukrainian officials are deceiving you by calling the landfill for waste storage a recycling plant. None of the adequate investors will invest in Ukraine’s nuclear fuel reprocessing plants, but yes, it’s very cost-effective!

              Why did you decide that? Fuel processing is a good business, why do you think that Americans are less entrepreneurial than Russians and they will not process fuel - probably because they do not like money laughing wassat
              1. +5
                August 4 2016
                Americans love money, and most importantly, they know how to count and save it. The construction of a processing plant is a very complex and expensive process. In the USA, where the 104 block of nuclear power plants is located, SNF reprocessing is prohibited by law (information about 2011), the reason is banal: not only the reprocessing process itself is expensive, but as a result it produces so much radioactive waste that it is even more expensive to store than non-reprocessed SNF

                Good business does not develop in an unstable state. Ukraine is about to fall apart (or it will be captured by Putin, Poles, aliens)
                1. +1
                  August 4 2016
                  Quote: JonnyT
                  In the USA, where the 104 block of nuclear power plants is located, SNF reprocessing is prohibited by law, (information about 2011),

                  And where are these wastes stored for 5 years? In Mexico is not closer and cheaper, for example, to be stored?
                  1. +9
                    August 4 2016
                    USA stick to deferred decision, preferring
                    conserve spent nuclear fuel in special storage facilities in order to either deal with it in the future
                    processing, or carry out the final burial. At the same time, nuclear fuel supplied by the United States to other countries is not returned for reprocessing in the United States, therefore, the problem of its disposal lies entirely with the importing countries ...

                    And where are these wastes stored for 5 years? In Mexico is not closer and cheaper, for example, to be stored?

                    They're coming to Ukraine. Accept a "gift" from friends!
                2. -2
                  August 4 2016
                  Quote: JonnyT
                  Americans love money, and most importantly, they can count and save it

                  Captain obvious soldier
                  Quote: JonnyT
                  The construction of a processing plant is a very complex and expensive process.

                  The piano does not play - the question is one - profitably not profitable.
                  Quote: JonnyT
                  In the USA, where the 104 block of nuclear power plants is located, SNF reprocessing is prohibited by law (information about 2011), the reason is banal: not only the reprocessing process itself is expensive, but as a result it produces so much radioactive waste that it is even more expensive to store than non-reprocessed SNF

                  those Rosatom processes at a loss? belay
                  1. +4
                    August 4 2016
                    Quote: atalef
                    those Rosatom processes at a loss?


                    no, of course, it's still "dirty". Plus, Rosatom has much broader opportunities than the Americans. In Russia, there are many SNF reprocessing facilities, underground waste storage facilities, which makes the process cost-effective and safe. And (you can call me a hooray patriot) Russia has the most extensive processing experience and one of the best technologies.
                    Processing plants at Mayak Production Center (Chelyabinsk-65)
                    Siberian Chemical Plant (Tomsk-7)
                    Mining and Chemical Combine (GKH, Krasnoyarsk-26)
                    Floating technological bases in the Russian Navy (Lepse type)
                    on the Kola Peninsula near 90 bases)
                    And there are also closed cities with their mills about which I will not write

                    Americans are very far from us. They have neither the experience nor the knowledge to build a modern plant for the reprocessing of spent nuclear fuel. They still have not been able to launch a single such plant in their USA. But outside Ukraine they will definitely do it, local raguli will help and teach.

                    You simply cannot accept this fact that they make trash from Ukraine. Ukraine is not the United States, and the Black Sea is very far from them, the opinion and condition of Europe has never bothered them.
                    1. -10
                      August 4 2016
                      Quote: JonnyT
                      no, of course, it's still "dirty". Plus, Rosatom has much broader opportunities than the Americans.

                      I hope this statement is not unfounded and somehow confirm these words (especially taking into account the fact that Wistengauz processes and produces 2 times more than ROSATOM)
                      Quote: JonnyT
                      There are many SNF reprocessing enterprises and underground waste storage facilities in Russia, which makes the process cost-effective and safe.

                      Will you find a list of infected areas and accidents yourself or can I help?
                      Quote: JonnyT
                      Americans are very far from us. They have no experience or knowledge to build a modern plant for reprocessing spent nuclear fuel,

                      Forced to ask for the next link (unless of course you are an expert in this matter)
                      Quote: JonnyT
                      You simply cannot accept this fact that they make trash from Ukraine.

                      I accept the fact that there are garbage dumps everywhere, including nuclear ones.
                      I accept the fact that Westinghouse is able to build a nuclear storage facility no worse than Russia is building on its territory
                      1. +2
                        August 4 2016
                        Quote: atalef
                        I hope this statement is not unfounded and somehow confirm these words (especially taking into account the fact that Wistengauz processes and produces 2 times more than ROSATOM)


                        Above, the comrade referred to the ban by the US Congress of 2011. reprocess spent nuclear fuel in the United States. Regarding the production of the same fuel, you yourself called the numbers: Westinghouse - 20%, TVEL FC - 17%. Why double?
                    2. +3
                      August 4 2016
                      Quote: JonnyT
                      no, of course, it's still "dirty". Plus, Rosatom has much broader opportunities than the Americans. There are many SNF reprocessing enterprises in Russia,


                      It’s dirty not where they don’t clean, but where they don’t litter, as the classic of Soviet literature said. I repeat: in Russia there is only one enterprise that processes spent nuclear fuel - Beloyarsk NPP.
                  2. 0
                    August 4 2016
                    Quote: atalef
                    e RosAtom processes at a loss?


                    This is very beneficial, and despite the fact that the Russian Federation is a monopolist in this service sector, it is doubly beneficial ...
                3. +4
                  August 4 2016
                  Quote: JonnyT
                  In the USA, where the 104 block of nuclear power plants is located, SNF reprocessing is prohibited by law (information about 2011), the reason is banal: not only the reprocessing process itself is expensive, but as a result it produces so much radioactive waste that it is even more expensive to store than non-reprocessed SNF


                  You are at least incompetent. And the law was passed in order to disguise its technological weaknesses - like we can, but you can't. Since 1979 not a single power unit has been built or commissioned in the United States. Why's that? Answer: there is not enough low enriched uranium. The only USEC processing plant provides only 3/4 of the required volumes. Hence the HEU-LEU agreement (500 tons of Russian highly enriched uranium were processed into 14000 tons of 4% of uranium and from 1993 to 2013 it was supplied to the United States), hence the rejection of nuclear power plants in Germany, Japan and the foolish Baltic states. The fuel of these nuclear power plants is consumed by 104 US power units ... The spent fuel processing process is efficient and environmentally friendly, if everything is done according to Rosatom and IAEA standards.
              2. +2
                August 4 2016
                Quote: atalef
                Fuel processing is a good business, why do you think that Americans are less entrepreneurial than Russians and they will not process fuel - probably because they do not like money

                Mattresses love money, but so far they can’t process it like in Russia, because BREST reactors are in Russia and not in mattresses.
                1. -6
                  August 4 2016
                  Quote: Dali
                  but so far they cannot process it as in Russia, because BREST-type reactors are in Russia, and not in mattresses.

                  ??
                  strange, Iran is able to produce fuel for the Russian reactor and has built facilities for processing (though due to sanctions it cannot start them), but Westinghouse cannot.
                  Your deeds are wonderful, Lord.
                  1. +2
                    August 4 2016
                    Quote: atalef
                    strange, Iran is able to produce fuel for the Russian reactor and has built facilities for processing (though due to sanctions it cannot start them), but Westinghouse cannot.
                    Your deeds are wonderful, Lord.


                    Iran buys fuel from the Russian Federation for its Bushehr nuclear power plant. It uses old Soviet centrifuges for enrichment, but the capacity of this enterprise is extremely small. Sanctions forbid Iran to produce highly enriched uranium (95%), because you can make a warhead ...
                  2. 0
                    August 5 2016
                    Quote: atalef
                    ??
                    strange, Iran is able to produce fuel for the Russian reactor and has built facilities for processing (though due to sanctions it cannot start them), but Westinghouse cannot.
                    Your deeds are wonderful, Lord.
                    Reply Quote Report Abuse

                    Wonderful things, only not God, but ours with God's help!
                    In general, you need to be aware of what kind of reactors (BREST) ​​are, what kind of fuel will be produced and from what. Firstly ...

                    And secondly, we are talking about factories about reprocessing spent nuclear fuel for stations with new type of reactors, and not about creating fuel for existing stations.

                    Therefore, I repeat once again, a really real plant for reprocessing spent nuclear fuel will start working in Russia, and not somewhere else ... and all other plants only prepare the spent for storage-burial.

                    And you wrote about the production and creation of nuclear fuel ... as always having taken and jumping to another topic ... although you are enlightened, but still, you should not think that no one will understand ... laughing
              3. +4
                August 4 2016
                Quote: atalef
                Why did you decide that? Fuel processing is a good business, why do you think that Americans are less entrepreneurial than Russians and they will not process fuel - probably because they do not like money


                The United States does not have the ability to reprocess spent nuclear fuel. There are no such technologies. Today, only the Russian Federation can do this at the Beloyarsk NPP (3 BN-600 power unit, 4 BN-800 power unit, both fast neutron reactors) ...
            2. +1
              August 4 2016
              Quote: JonnyT
              And in Chernobyl, caring Americans will put metal barrels in the open air and pour them with radioactive liquid from all over Europe and the USA

              Well, yes) they’ll just do it right) then the waste will go to the Dnieper) through it to the Black Sea))
              We are not so far from Europe that would play like this with radioactive waste)
              and in the USA there are processing plants) otherwise they would have been a long time ago) if Yushchenko would have brought everything in and filled it)
              1. 0
                August 4 2016
                Quote: Kars
                and in the USA there are processing plants) otherwise they would have been a long time ago) if Yushchenko would have brought everything in and filled it)

                In reality, the first plant for the processing of nuclear waste into nuclear fuel will begin to operate in Russia, as it will soon be completed and will be needed for BREST reactors.

                And everything else that exists is just a preparation for specialized storage facilities for spent nuclear fuel.
              2. +2
                August 4 2016
                Quote: Kars
                and in the USA there are processing plants) otherwise they would have been a long time ago) if Yushchenko would have brought everything in and filled it)


                No comment ...
            3. -7
              August 4 2016
              Quote: JonnyT
              Quote: Kars
              It’s strange then that RosAtom takes money for receiving spent fuel

              So we have recycling. after that 97% is returned back in the form of fuel, plus elements, for example, necessary for medicine, are allocated. And in Chernobyl, caring Americans will put metal barrels in the open and pour them with radioactive liquid from all over Europe and the United States. Ukrainian officials are deceiving you by calling the landfill for waste storage a recycling plant. None of the adequate investors will invest in Ukraine’s nuclear fuel reprocessing plants, but yes, it’s very cost-effective!

              They do the same thing with us, they don’t recycle, but stupidly bury other people's waste. Look about the vaults of the Primorsky Territory. I myself live nearby, I know what I'm writing about.
              1. 0
                August 5 2016
                Quote: vasiliev yu
                they do the same with us, they don’t recycle, but stupidly bury other people's waste. Look about the vaults of the Primorsky Territory. I myself live nearby, I know what I'm writing about.

                And who processes? And not stupidly stores? If only I read above ...
                So far, only in Russia have they learned how to truly process it ... so that soon they will turn into waste materials and not cheap !!!
        2. 0
          August 4 2016
          Quote: Denis Obukhov
          Garbage country.

          Who appreciates himself and how ... belay I'm crying ... crying
      4. +25
        August 4 2016
        - "Everything is normal with radiation"
        - Groysman said and scratched his back with his right ear ... wassat
      5. +6
        August 4 2016
        Now can you buy nuclear fuel in city markets? After all, let these guys only somewhere - the first thing they all steal.
        1. +2
          August 4 2016
          Quote: Reserve officer
          Now can you buy nuclear fuel in city markets?

          if they fit in the living conditions, yes. (I do not hope for them, common sense).
          1. +5
            August 4 2016
            Somehow I immediately remembered the movie "Trembita". Anti-tank mines under the trough are simply an indispensable item in the household. And the unforgettable Parasya Nikanorovna: "But how did I know that they were mines? Well, banks are like banks!"
            So, Andrei Yuryevich, hoping for their common sense is very optimistic.
      6. 0
        August 4 2016
        Nassalik what to take from him? Tests and those very good.
      7. PKK
        0
        August 4 2016
        Already burned American oil companies with shale oil, now tearing their noses into ..o with nuclear fuel. Stop, or maybe they muddied the Nuclear Weapons there? But Nodo can figure it out. It won’t work.
        1. -4
          August 4 2016
          Quote: PKK
          Already burned American oil companies with shale oil,

          How were you burned?
          Americans burned or someone else?
          1. +2
            August 4 2016
            Quote: atalef
            How were you burned?
            Americans burned or someone else?


            And who else was producing shale oil and how much did they raise from this? Nobody mined in the Russian Federation. Probably we don’t have it ... Shale oil is the oil that Erdogan’s son used to transport on his former 1500 fuel trucks, which he, in turn, bought from the Barmalei for $ 8-10 a barrel. We bombed them and shale oil weathered ...
            1. -1
              August 4 2016
              Quote: pft, fkb
              And who else was producing shale oil and how much did they raise from this?

              Raised enough to lower prices around the world
              Quote: pft, fkb
              Nobody mined in the Russian Federation.

              Lukoil and Rosneft produce - google

              Quote: pft, fkb
              Shale oil is the oil that Erdogan’s son transported on former 1500 fuel trucks, which, in turn, he bought from the Barmels for 8-10 dollars per barrel

              Well, yes, and oil rigs in Texas pump milk
              Quote: pft, fkb
              We bombed them and shale oil eroded...

              Google to help, you will be disappointed.
              1. +1
                August 5 2016
                1. Oil prices are lowered on Wall Street for fraud with futures sales - you do not need to google, just think.
                2. Where, in which region, what is the percentage of total volumes.
                3. Examine the profitability of such mining and their fate today. As well as damage to the environment (and this is crazy compensation). I doubt that any region of the Russian Federation would allow such mining.
                4. I do not communicate with Google, but with a thinking person (I want to believe it) who is able to argue their point of view.
    2. +3
      August 4 2016
      And who will stand in the Chernobyl zone? And most importantly, what kind of crazy people will work there? Well, you have to be so inadequate, for them it’s also overwhelming.
      1. -5
        August 4 2016
        Westinghouse to build nuclear fuel plant in Ukraine

        And why do not we bother to build the same plant in Cuba?
        1. +11
          August 4 2016
          Field Marshal, there are still such Nasaliks kept in specialized institutions. Raul has not yet lost his mind!
          1. +4
            August 4 2016
            I did not mean a plant for the processing of nuclear waste, but a plant for the production of nuclear fuel for nuclear power plants - you need to read more carefully. Do you understand the difference between fuel and waste? And we will build a nuclear power plant for them and take away the spent fuel for processing - this is what Rosatom always does, unlike Westinghouse. There, by the way, in Cuba, there was an unfinished nuclear power plant from Soviet times in Juragua. I hope Raoul is not against nuclear energy? I do not understand all the set cons. Well, and to your health! good
            1. +1
              August 4 2016
              nuclear fuel plant


              (plus one returned to you).
              But did not understand what your yearning is about? let them build, they will carry their fuel elements to the states. Their technology is not suitable for Russian-made VVER.
              1. +1
                August 4 2016
                Quote: Alex_Tug
                Their technology is not suitable for Russian-made VVER.


                In my opinion, this is the same as hammering a screw.
            2. +1
              August 4 2016
              Quote: СРЦ П-15
              Well, and health!


              I put a plus because I agree ...
      2. +6
        August 4 2016
        Quote: Wend
        And who will stand in the Chernobyl zone? And most importantly, what kind of crazy people will work there? Well, you have to be so inadequate, for them it’s also overwhelming.

        They’ll work, people have finished working and now $ 1000 is huge money for Ukraine. It's another thing that only 5 countries have technology for processing fuel assemblies for nuclear power plants. And I doubt that the Americans will drag this technology to Ukraine, it’s really huge money, and Ukraine is no longer a third world country, it's just a colony. So they’ll just be offered to bury in the forest near Chernobyl
        1. jjj
          +4
          August 4 2016
          Factory of. So they will receive raw materials, enrich and collect fuel elements. Gathered, means to create your own atomic bomb
        2. +13
          August 4 2016
          We agreed to diversify supplies to almost half of the nuclear units (NPPs) and agreed to build a nuclear fuel plant in Ukraine.



          An agreement was signed, and when traveling to the United States, a $ 260 million loan agreement for the construction of a dry storage facility for spent nuclear fuel, which will be built in the Chernobyl zone ... This is not only a highly economical and cost-effective project, but we can diversify spent nuclear fuel.


          Papuans, la!
        3. +5
          August 4 2016
          Quote: APASUS
          They will work, people have brought to the handle and now

          Then someone thinks that people did not work at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant both 5 years and 10 years ago.
          Europe generally forced to shut down a working reactor, although nothing prevented it from operating.
      3. +4
        August 4 2016
        Quote: Wend
        And who will stand in the Chernobyl zone? And most importantly, what kind of crazy people will work there?

        Looks like a new part of the game "Stalker" should be expected soon ...
      4. +1
        August 4 2016
        There even foreigners work))
        1. +8
          August 4 2016
          Quote: Kars
          There even foreigners work))

          How cute smile
          They will build a trash, and Ukraine itself will use this trash on a common basis, but will go to spent fuel from the Netherlands, from France, etc. From all Westinghouse customers. And all this will be stored at you, dry storage, stupidly bury. And the quantity will only grow. And no one will ever undertake to recycle it, to recultivate the soil, to clean the water, no one, it’s forever.
          1. -6
            August 4 2016
            Quote: Observer 33
            Quote: Kars
            There even foreigners work))

            How cute smile
            They will build a trash, and Ukraine itself will use this trash on a common basis, but will go to spent fuel from the Netherlands, from France, etc. From all Westinghouse customers. And all this will be stored at you, dry storage, stupidly bury. And the quantity will only grow. And no one will ever undertake to recycle it, to recultivate the soil, to clean the water, no one, it’s forever.

            In general, a strange comment, where the fuel is produced, there it is accepted for storage
            After all, it doesn’t bother you that Russia receives fuel from Finland, Armenia, Iran, all the former Soviet republics (where NPPs and Ukraine were built, including Bulgaria, will be accepted from Turkey (if they are built) and from Jordan and Egypt (NPP contracts concluded
            It is ridiculous to doubt Westinghouse’s competence — it produces fuel, storage facilities and hundreds of reactors — the place (Chernobyl zone) is quite logical for construction --- the question is simple - why not?
            1. +6
              August 4 2016
              Quote: atalef
              You do not bother, that Russia

              Not annoying. In Russia, this is 97% non-waste production. At the moment, we are leaving 100%.
              Quote: atalef
              To doubt Westinghouse’s competence is ridiculous -
              What Westinghouse did not even dream of.
              Quote: atalef
              the question is simple - why not?

              ! If in Israel, but not near my borders, I am FOR!
              Do you like money?
              1. -7
                August 4 2016
                Quote: Observer 33
                Not annoying. In Russia, this is 97% non-waste production

                Wasteless?
                And then where is the waste from?
                Russia has a national land-based long-term plutonium storage facility at the Mayak site
                The technology of underground isolation of liquid radioactive waste in reservoirs (Seversk, Zheleznogorsk, Dimitrovgrad) has been implemented in Russia.

                Variants of sites for the location of international storage facilities in Russia, the most officially "advanced", without a new comprehensive analysis and additional justifications, traditionally "docked" for the nuclear industry with the legacy of the Cold War, are so far sites near Krasnoyarsk, Chelyabinsk and the borders with China and Mongolia ( Krasnokamensk)
                In the North-West of Russia, the designers of Rosatom (Minatom) have consistently considered permafrost limestones of the Novaya Zemlya landfill and salt deposits of the Komi Republic as an insulating geological environment for a nuclear storage (so far officially only regional)


                I would have continued, but it makes no sense.

                Quote: Observer 33
                If in Israel, but not near my borders, I am FOR!

                why don’t you know anything, were you banned in Google?
                “Import into the Russian Federation from foreign countries of irradiated fuel assemblies of nuclear reactors for temporary technological storage and (or) their processing is permitted if a state environmental review and other state reviews of the relevant project provided for by the legislation of the Russian Federation have been carried out”

                On Friday, December 27, in a suburb of St. Petersburg, Sosnovy Bor is hosting a public hearing on a project to build a new nuclear facility in the city - a regional radioactive waste repository for North-West Russia.

                Have you heard about the construction of the INTERNATIONAL Center for the reception of waste from all over the world in Russia?
                Well, google to help hi
                1. +3
                  August 4 2016
                  Quote: atalef
                  And then where is the waste from?

                  But nothing that Russia has been working in this area since the beginning of the 50's?
                  Quote: atalef
                  why don’t you know anything, were you banned in Google?

                  I know everything I need. And I can work with sources. And then, I don’t pull individual lines from a whole complex of information sources. What are you doing? Advocate.
                  And as they catch, you merge. Three days, not to be seen, then crawl out again. Yes
                  1. +2
                    August 4 2016
                    I agree. Today I spend the whole evening talking with him.
                  2. -2
                    August 4 2016
                    Quote: Observer 33
                    But nothing that Russia has been working in this area since the beginning of the 50's?

                    Nothing.
                    Quote: Observer 33
                    I know everything I need

                    Who would doubt that laughing
                    Quote: Observer 33
                    . And I can work with sources

                    Well, at least one reference, plizz
                    Quote: Observer 33
                    And then, I don’t pull individual lines from a whole complex of information sources. What do you do?

                    Well, the whole article does not cite.
                    I have to highlight the main thing
                    Quote: Observer 33
                    Advocate.

                    And on the topic, preferably with links have something to say?
                    Quote: Observer 33
                    And as they catch, you merge. Three days, not to be seen, then crawl out again.

                    last month practically did not come out.
                    Not retired tea, you have to work.
                    1. +1
                      August 5 2016
                      Quote: atalef
                      Well, the whole article does not cite.
                      I have to highlight the main thing

                      Of course. It is necessary to pull out only that which creates a false impression of MY country.
                      Quote: atalef
                      And on the topic, preferably with links have something to say?

                      On the topic, I have long said everything. Apparently the emigrant complex does not allow to penetrate ..?
                      Quote: atalef
                      last month practically did not come out.
                      Not retired tea, you have to work.

                      Yes, I remember ... Then there was an active defense and attempts to convince the objectivity of organizations involved in the persecution of our Olympians. Now MacLaren's report to comment, do not want to? And for one thing, and to the citizens of the country (real citizens), who were poured mud over the apologies to bring?
                      Of course not! Like, for a month they’ve forgotten already, you can shit for another reason ...
            2. +2
              August 4 2016
              Quote: atalef
              that Russia receives fuel from Finland, Armenia, Iran, all the former republics of the USSR (where NPPs and Ukraine were built, including Bulgaria, will be accepted from Turkey (if they are built) and from Jordan and Egypt (contracts for NPPs are concluded

              only first DELIVES it there. Suddenly yes?
              1. +1
                August 4 2016
                Quote: Krasniy_lis
                only first DELIVES it there. Suddenly yes?


                And you suddenly are not surprised by the presence of a foul-smelling gasoline in the tank of your car? The difference between Rosatom and American companies is that we take back OUR fuel spent in OUR reactors, but they do not.
                1. -2
                  August 4 2016
                  Quote: pft, fkb
                  The difference between Rosatom and American companies is that we take back OUR fuel spent in OUR reactors, but they do not.

                  Can you confirm?
                  Although if they do not take it, then respect to them, you need to be able to sell it, but bury yourself and yourself.
                  1. +2
                    August 5 2016
                    I confirm: Rosatom includes in the production cycle of the NPPs built by it the subsequent unloading of spent fuel, its transportation and utilization / processing on the territory of the Russian Federation. Regarding selling skills as Americans - what do you admire? The ability to do business is the result of twisting the hands of vassals. Potential buyers simply have no choice, because they are essentially occupied by the United States or are members of NATO, which is the same thing. From the same song, the triumph of the products of the American military-industrial complex on the planet ... For what purpose, in your opinion, do they strive to create the North Atlantic and Pacific (as I think are called) trade unions? Where the American arbitration will triumph. Nothing personal - just business.
                  2. +1
                    August 5 2016
                    Quote: atalef
                    Quote: pft, fkb
                    The difference between Rosatom and American companies is that we take back OUR fuel spent in OUR reactors, but they do not.

                    Can you confirm?
                    Although if they do not take it, then respect to them, you need to be able to sell it, but bury yourself and yourself.

                    It is clear with you: you are not at all in the subject, but you have an opinion. From Google, before which you’re on your knees and pray to him.
                    They are not accustomed to thinking, they are deprived of logic. But on the other hand, Ombitsyev - at least a spade rowing! )))
              2. -2
                August 4 2016
                Quote: Krasniy_lis
                only first DELIVES it there. Suddenly yes?

                And now what?
                Of course, whoever delivers and takes, the same will be in Ukraine. What is the problem ?
        2. +7
          August 4 2016
          quote
          Quote: Kars
          There even foreigners work))

          Write nonsense.
          I worked with the Americans at the beginning of the perestroika assembly, their engineer received $ 147 per hour, and we have a worker $ 260 per month. Those foreigners who work in the Chernobyl zone receive $ 10 for this, and Ukrainians will dig shovels for 200 $.
          Your comparison is inappropriate!
      5. 0
        August 4 2016
        Quote: Wend
        And who will stand in the Chernobyl zone? And most importantly, what kind of crazy people will work there? Well, you have to be so inadequate, for them it’s also overwhelming.

        "stalker" you know? so they will be ... belay
    3. +2
      August 4 2016
      But the Maidan public immediately understood, emphasizing that we are talking about the disposal of nuclear fuel “at home” - without being sent to Rosatom’s special storage facilities in the Russian Federation. The same Maidan public considered this an important challenge.

      It is necessary to feed the cranial filler turned on the Maidan! A hotbed of radiation is just right!
    4. +2
      August 4 2016
      okay we, Belarusians, what will they say? Actually, the jokes dragged on, the "chain reaction" games are understandable from the states, but, damn the Ukrainians ... you do not really hope you are crazy? Do you need IT? border states with what? Father, what do you say?
      1. +3
        August 4 2016
        I apologize for being off topic.
        A petition appeared on https://www.change.org addressed to the President of the Russian Federation on the resignation of Prime Minister Medvedev.
        Gaining one and a half thousand in five minutes. hi
        1. 0
          August 4 2016
          Quote: Dym71
          I apologize for being off topic.
          A petition appeared on https://www.change.org addressed to the President of the Russian Federation on the resignation of Prime Minister Medvedev.
          Gaining one and a half thousand in five minutes. hi


          Collecting signatures for Medvedev's resignation - on an American site laughing

          The Kremlin did not see a petition for the resignation of Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev. This was reported by TASS with reference to a statement by the press secretary of the President of the Russian Federation Dmitry Peskov.
          According to him, the Kremlin does not know anything about the collective petition for Medvedev’s resignation and sees no reason to somehow react to these statements until the nature of the petition is understood.
          Earlier, a petition appeared on the Change.org website demanding the resignation of Medvedev due to the fact that the current head of government is incompetent and does not care for the country. The petition has already been signed by over 5700 people.
          On the eve of the Financial Times, an article appeared about Medvedev’s possible resignation, but, as Peskov assured, their forecasts are speculation and fortune-telling on the coffee grounds.
          1. +3
            August 4 2016
            Quote: atalef
            Collecting signatures for Medvedev's resignation - on the American website laughing


            Eh, Sasha, Sasha - Better not enough good than much bad! wink
          2. 0
            August 4 2016
            Quote: atalef
            Collecting signatures for Medvedev's resignation - on an American site

            Ah atalef why so on Dimon, because he doesn’t solve anything there, therefore he looked like a schoolboy, even could not answer the elementary question about pensions
            1. +5
              August 4 2016
              Quote: APASUS
              Ah atalef why so on Dimona


              APASUS, he is not on Dimon Yes , atalef is jesting over the people, who are voting against the Russian prime minister on the American site, although the mattress swears what the light is! Do you understand? For example, in VO to a Jew express dissatisfaction with his prime minister kosher, and to us on the American resource nizya! This causes sarcastic spasms in atalef smile

              ps I did understand you correctly, Alexander is our light-wisdom?
              1. -1
                August 4 2016
                Quote: Dym71
                For example, in VO to a Jew express dissatisfaction with his prime minister kosher, and to us on the American resource nizya! This causes sarcastic spasms in atalef

                Nah, everything's fine .
                Peskov’s reaction poked me more.
                By the way, didn’t you try to organize your site with signatures?
                We have against Netanyahu - a dime a dozen.
                I don’t want to subscribe.
                1. 0
                  August 4 2016
                  Quote: atalef
                  By the way, didn’t you try to organize your site with signatures?

                  Well, again, you ask insidious questions laughing we are quilted quilted jackets, what is the site there, what are you winked
                  Quote: atalef
                  We have against Netanyahu - a dime a dozen.

                  And nothing has changed crying
                  Quote: atalef
                  I don’t want to subscribe.

                  I do not want wink
            2. -1
              August 4 2016
              Quote: APASUS
              Ah atalef why so on Dimon, because he doesn’t solve anything there, therefore he looked like a schoolboy, even could not answer the elementary question about pensions

              Well, why are you like that? He’s the prime minister and president, the former, and maybe the future laughing
    5. +4
      August 4 2016
      I hate our housing and communal services, now I won’t wash the shit out of their pipes, I’ll put it in my small room. Yes[/ Quote]
      "Woe to the Vanquished" This is the price of losing independence, becoming a cesspool for the winners.
    6. 0
      August 4 2016
      Ukraine will make a dump of nuclear waste.
    7. 0
      August 4 2016
      Quote: Vladimirets
      I hate our housing and communal services, now I won’t wash the shit out of their pipes, I’ll put it in my small room


      That's it ... Let them immediately shove it in their pockets and be proud ... proud ... and glow ..
  2. KAV
    +7
    August 4 2016
    Somehow scary if it's true. Not only will they litter the whole country with waste, it’s also not a fact that the plant will be under the guise of a plant ... Although, to believe the word of the ukrominister too, the occupation is not grateful.
    $ 260 million - for the construction of a dry storage facility for spent nuclear fuel, which will be built in the Chernobyl zone
    Well yes. Stupidly, they will bury it in the ground and this will stop the construction of the storage facility.
  3. +3
    August 4 2016
    I believe that we should not worry. Concrete for construction will be stolen at the stage of foundation pouring! ))))
  4. +5
    August 4 2016
    Yes, it’s clearly tough there — Russia should wait for at least a couple of new Chernobyls;
    1. +1
      August 4 2016
      Westinghouse is clearly not smart enough to build a plant on this territory, and they have funnled the nuclear dump, most likely this was the main idea.
    2. The comment was deleted.
  5. +3
    August 4 2016
    In the 90s, they also wanted to make a repository (dump) of nuclear fuel from around the world from our country. am Now they are doing the same in Ukraine am
  6. +2
    August 4 2016
    Apparently, the lessons of Chernobyl in Ukraine are not sufficiently learned.
    1. 0
      August 4 2016
      They dreamed about this for several years, finally waited. The Europeans are silent. What dill they offer ---- they will choose the worst.
  7. +8
    August 4 2016
    Dear forum users, the West, represented by this Westinghouse company, is about to build a stationary atomic bomb near the Russian borders, and at the same time entrust the management with a pan-barrel. It's the same as babakhnet !!!!!!!!!
    At the same time, 404 were made nuclear waste. I personally somehow feel uneasy that these horses are going to produce ATOMIC FUEL and in general who have been entrusted with such a serious topic.
    How to stop this madness !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  8. +4
    August 4 2016
    It's time to take Ukraine into our own hands, otherwise the country will be turned into an atomic uncontrolled and uncontrolled atomic bomb. What is now not its territory (if it explodes!) Is quite enough for the whole of Europe and the European part of Russia.
    A monkey with a grenade is scary, but not catastrophic; in Ukraine with a nuclear power plant and a uranium processing plant, it is simply disastrous.
  9. +2
    August 4 2016
    The chance during life to see the three-headed ukrointse grows at times.!
  10. +3
    August 4 2016
    Now, every Ukrainian at home, prozap, just in case, will have a lantern blank - it will come in handy. You won’t get rid of the centuries-old mentality.
  11. +11
    August 4 2016
    Three sources, three components of Ukrainian nuclear energy: laughing

    1. Diversification of nuclear fuel - roughly speaking, an attempt to shove worthless square fuel rods in round holes. This is a complete analogy. laughing
    2. SNF storage. It is curious that storage locations are selected based on geology; and SNF is disposed of only after vitrification during reprocessing at exclusively high-tech productions. Uk-rii chose the place, proceeding from the fact that the Chernobyl muck was already scattered there - as if it was not enough of its own; there is generally no mention of preliminary reprocessing (a not knowing minister calls this process "SNF diversification"). laughing
    3. Mythical TVEL production plant from Westinghouse. laughing Well, they are probably running right away to Ukraine in order to warm them with their atom. Radioactively warming with your TVELs, apparently, is not enough. laughing They will issue a personal portable RTG to each freezing winter UK-ru. laughing

    All this will end predictably a little more than completely - a radiological accident. laughing
  12. 0
    August 4 2016
    Natsalik - another talking head bully
  13. +2
    August 4 2016
    Yes, this is ... maybe the headed Snake Gorynych from the fairy tales was a mutant because of the accident at the ancient protoucroins nuclear power plant ??? wassat
  14. 0
    August 4 2016
    All overwork. If everything will be as the maydaun is chatting, then two-headed three-tails with a trident on their ass will appear on the square. Nuclear fuel it can miraculous miracles miraculous. belay
  15. +1
    August 4 2016
    Schistinginghouse will build a nuclear fuel plant in Ukraine
    It immediately comes to mind ... rephrasing in a new way.
    Stupid Ukrainian has created nuclear fuel,
    For the joy of this he got a match
    Only he struck a match in his hands
    And the whole of Ukraine turned into ashes ...
    )))
  16. +1
    August 4 2016
    The most popular song in ukroine ten years later - "oh, radiation is blooming in the field near the dead stream" am
    1. +11
      August 4 2016
      Quote: Expelling Liberoids
      The most popular song in ukroine ten years later - "oh, radiation is blooming in the field near the dead stream" am
      1. +3
        August 4 2016
        Pan Pedro, Bon Appitit
      2. +2
        August 4 2016
        Vokogya -So me, Paroshenka a ton of go-in to send?
        1. 0
          August 4 2016
          Why spoil nature, they themselves will ruin everything!
          1. 0
            August 4 2016
            Why spoil nature, they themselves will ruin everything!


            In Chernobyl? They will make a bunker and fill the fuel elements with liquid glass (with lead). Even the business will be.
  17. +2
    August 4 2016
    Why spoil the environment in America and Europe. It is very convenient to make a world nuclear repository in hahland.
  18. +1
    August 4 2016
    Speaking today at a press conference in Kiev, the head of the Ministry of Energy and Coal Industry of Ukraine, Igor Nasalik, told the media about the agreements with the American company "Westinghouse


    An agreement doesn’t mean anything, it can last for many years, but they will quickly arrange this repository of spent nuclear fuel.
  19. +12
    August 4 2016
    When our TVEL supplied its fuel to Ukraine, it also disposed of waste. Those. just exported from Ukraine.
    Westinghouse was not going to export anything either in 2008, or in 2010, or now. The Ukrainian Energoatom tried to negotiate this with the French AREVA. I didn't agree. But it seems that Westinghouse has solved the problem of waste disposal not only for Ukraine, but for the whole of Europe. The nuclear dump near the exclusion zone of the Chernobyl NPP is good for them because any leak, any pollution can be easily attributed to the Chernobyl NPP itself, i.e. on past mistakes of the USSR / USSR. To put it simply, the Russians, Moscow.
    The most unpleasant thing is that they will allow such a leak without much regret. At least they will try less to prevent it than in any other place on Earth. Indeed, in any other place there has not yet been such a nuclear clogging.
  20. +1
    August 4 2016
    When Ukraine is overwhelmed with nuclear waste, the sub-dressing, Svidomo ragul can be easily distinguished by the number of limbs and chubat heads.
    1. +3
      August 4 2016
      Quote: Arkan
      When Ukraine is overwhelmed with nuclear waste, the sub-dressing, Svidomo ragul can be easily distinguished by the number of limbs and chubat heads.

      The problem is that from Pripyat to Moscow 800 km on the road. And directly - a little less than 700 km. Do you understand why this is?
  21. 0
    August 4 2016
    It seems to me that this may well be an attempt to calm the people. In connection with their problems with nuclear fuel. And then, after all, they were going to extract oil and gas there, but only things were still there.
    This kind of production, it seems terribly expensive to me, otherwise everyone would have built it. And then they don’t get much money anyway, where else will they get so much from? YES still with a margin so that there isn’t enough stolen
  22. +2
    August 4 2016
    I quickly read "... signed the Verdict ...", then I saw that I was mistaken, but ... I had a bad feeling. And by the way, how is Nasalik going to diversify spent nuclear fuel? laughing In briquettes, in bottles and on bottling in cans? laughing
  23. +6
    August 4 2016
    Quote: Korney84
    In 90, they also wanted to make a repository (dump) of nuclear fuel from around the world from Our country

    No need to repeat stupidity. Rosatom takes out the SNF and processes it, since Russian technologies in this area are really ahead of the whole planet. It is necessary to separate the waste: concrete, the remains of the foundation and other and spent nuclear fuel, which can be processed and new fuel elements are obtained.
    1. 0
      August 4 2016
      Well, Ukrainians again sawed off the grandmother and the Cayman Islands, wait for the tsunami ...
      !
      Why did they need insecurity and Europe?
      To get together out of the country!
      Shyrli myyrli, Makarevich!
      Jews!
  24. +2
    August 4 2016
    God forbid that such a "diversification" of spent nuclear fuel does not lead to the fact that the wrong hands will be able to get it for the primitive assembly of a "dirty" bomb. These guys are smart enough to smash radioactive debris.
  25. +1
    August 4 2016
    So it is necessary in the Carpathians.
    Yushi vigorous station to move.
    So that it wagged, all the way to London!
    They have little uranium in Europe ...
  26. +1
    August 4 2016
    Actually, Nasalik is not exactly Westinghouse. Maybe the Americans will come up with something, but so far these are the dreams of the Ukrainian government minister. Everything will be slightly different, i.e. for the money of the same Ukraine, a large latrine will be built on the land of Ukraine and the hands of Ukrainians. This, perhaps, is not a forecast, nor a prediction, but an accurate picture of how this dream will be realized.
  27. 0
    August 4 2016
    The main thing is that they will build the burial ground not in the Donbass, but in their own garden near Kiev. Get out of breath faster. Jackets will soon be shooting mutants laughing
  28. +1
    August 4 2016
    Fresh tradition, but hard to believe. First we would finish the roof over the Chernobyl block. And then how many years they’ve been sawing, they can’t cut.
  29. +1
    August 4 2016
    People! You did not understand. Nasalik learned the word "diversification". And everything else is the same.
  30. +9
    August 4 2016
    Wonderful are your deeds, O Lord. Send the 404 country some intelligence, well, just a little. You don't need much to think about what we are doing? The fact that they reinvent the wheel at every step, until they interfere with others, is a goblin with them, we will deal with the rest in time. But to build a nuclear dump under his floor for westi like him there and the entire "democratic" world - well, where are the brains, want to end the history of the "great ukrov"?
    And the goblin with them, but the world is so small and fragile, and the 404s demonstrate impenetrable stupidity, it’s not comfortable like that ...
  31. +1
    August 4 2016
    Westinghouse is a company with a hundred-year-old reputation as a fraudster, you just have to sympathize ...
  32. +1
    August 4 2016
    bad, a nuclear garbage dump with inadequate power in our neighborhood.
  33. +2
    August 4 2016
    To entrust the present-day Ukraine plant for the production of nuclear fuel for nuclear power plants is a strong move of the West ...
    This is a very serious matter. In our Chelyabinsk region in 1957, these wastes, to put it mildly, were fucked up! - so much so that we are still scooping up people and territory. There were several Chernobyls. Everything was piled up in a heap until it reached a critical mass. Note, in the 57th in comparison with our years, there was a thousand times less nuclear waste. And now everyone, who is not indifferent to their territory, will cheaply sell Ukraine this waste. Those who are now in power will gladly accept them, and the money will be in their pocket. Unfortunately, this is still half the trouble. Everyone knows what a dirty bomb (charge) is. But this hellish mixture is on the black market, one can only guess. In short, not a bad business will be established and the Ukrainian leadership will secretly do this, but it will. And yet, if there is a reactor, then why not bring the process to weapons-grade uranium, plutonium. Here the whole world must get up against this freak idea.
  34. +1
    August 4 2016
    I recall the ditty of the Chernobyl era:
    Zaporozhets is not a car
    Chernobyl not a tenant
    Kiev is not a man
    and generally Khokhlov ... wassat
    As relevant as ever. What are they doing with their nenko, perverts.
  35. +2
    August 4 2016
    the program of interaction with the American "Westinghouse" is aimed "at reducing the Russian share in the work of Ukrainian nuclear power plants

    oh bastards play out, they themselves do not mind, but normal people, for what?
  36. +2
    August 4 2016
    Westinghouse is preparing Chernobyl No. 2.
    Give a peaceful atom to every Ukrainian hut!
  37. 0
    August 4 2016
    Quote: Andrey Yurievich
    if they fit in the living conditions, yes. (I do not hope for them, common sense).

    Where common sense settled down for a normal person, Maidan’s children have a vacuum. To all the problems of the current government is added another lifelong problem for receivers. This country is no longer sorry ...
  38. 0
    August 4 2016
    They are not sorry, sorry for the neighbors.
  39. +2
    August 4 2016
    No emotions needed. This is another ukrokut. The Americans have not mastered the enrichment of uranium using centrifuges, and still use the expensive and dirty diffuse method. Because of this, they began to lose to Rosatom in their own market. You can of course make hybrid fuel mixing with weapons-grade uranium, but weapon-grade uranium is already ending, and the arms race that has begun again will not allow spending a strategic reserve. And what's in the balance, but nothing. Americans can’t build anything anywhere else.
  40. +1
    August 4 2016
    Congratulations to Ukraine on yet another challenge ... Everything went to this, initially! All that remained in Ukraine was its fertile lands, now they will be screwed up in spite of Russia! Eh ...
  41. +1
    August 4 2016
    "A nuclear fuel production plant will be built on the territory of Ukraine." And ... the "Maidan" public understood immediately, stressing that we were talking about burying nuclear fuel "at home". Collective burial of the brain.
  42. 0
    August 4 2016
    Westinghouse has a long way to spit on the vigorous energy of the region, their main waste storage facility and nothing more, then what the "vigorous (candle)" plant will produce will go to the burial ground ... further in order ... waste from the states and Europe there too .. Here and chew colleagues Kraintsy forever and ever, you really need it, and you really wanted it !!! On four legs and with three small arms and two tails, you are unlikely to be expected in Europe ...
    1. 0
      August 4 2016
      Quote: masiya
      Westinghouse is far from spitting on the vigorous energy of Krajina, it’s the main waste storage and not more

      No, they want to produce TVELLs for rectors of Russian / Soviet production and recycle waste
      Quote: masiya
      . waste from the states and Europe there too.

      Well, Russia is accepting from all over the world, why is Ukraine worse?
      1. +1
        August 4 2016
        Quote: atalef
        Quote: masiya
        Westinghouse is far from spitting on the vigorous energy of Krajina, it’s the main waste storage and not more

        No, they want to produce TVELLs for rectors of Russian / Soviet production and recycle waste
        Quote: masiya
        . waste from the states and Europe there too.

        Well, Russia is accepting from all over the world, why is Ukraine worse?

        Atalef, as I understand it, Israel is also interested in this project ..? You are all so excited ... The industry of Ukraine is destroyed and plundered, the most is to build a large nuclear weapons reprocessing plant, etc. from around the world .. It is advisable to get closer to the borders of Russia! It's free money, you can’t work Khokhlov at all .. I remember in Russia, we also threw such fishing rods .. We will provide the population with everything, just accept and build! It's a pity the land ...
        1. -2
          August 4 2016
          Quote: Chariton
          Atalef, as I understand it, Israel is also interested in this project ..?

          Of course, we will store radioactive matzo there.
          Quote: Chariton
          Then you are all so excited.

          Well, you got excited, I’m just arguing with opposition, while no one except yelling - they will poison us all - did not bring
          Quote: Chariton
          ... The industry of Ukraine is destroyed and plundered

          They say the same thing about Russia, and what do you mean, including
          Quote: Chariton
          , the most is to build a large nuclear weapons reprocessing plant, etc. from around the world

          Why not ? Grandmas are not theirs, there is a place, there is enough labor
          Quote: Chariton
          This is free money

          Freebie !!!
          And who is against freebies? wink
          Quote: Chariton
          Khokhlov can not work at all

          Are you jealous? laughing
          Quote: Chariton
          ..It will be remembered in Russia, we also threw such fishing rods..Typically we will provide the population with everything, just accept and build! It's a pity the earth ...

          You’ve been deceived, they’re being built in full - only the people, as always tongue
          1. 0
            August 4 2016
            The Jewish answer, as always ... bully It seems that he answered, and the feeling that a tub of shit was poured on you, everything is so slippery and there is nothing to complain about ... Well done Atalef! You have a lot of students here .. And OUR Ukraine we will fight, I promise you this!
            1. 0
              August 4 2016
              Quote: Chariton
              And for Ukraine OURS we will fight, I promise you that!


              Vitaliy, with whom was going to fight for Ukraine?
              Stock up on slippers, boom with cockroaches to fight. They are not afraid of radiation.
              1. 0
                August 4 2016
                Quote: Alex_Tug
                Quote: Chariton
                And for Ukraine OURS we will fight, I promise you that!


                Vitaliy, with whom was going to fight for Ukraine?
                Stock up on slippers, boom with cockroaches to fight. They are not afraid of radiation.

                I don’t want to poke my finger ... (they stammer right away, until hemoptysis ..)))) But I wouldn’t want to have cockroaches in Ukraine .. Yaytsenyuk already dumped! She’s laughing at the bastard from abroad and will teach ... The United States and Israel have special flights and air mail corps diplomatic mail chartered ..? Well, of course, London (they will still argue among themselves, who will be the first to take these newly-minted billionaires first ..)) After all, many of the main people will leave? (already running small things)
                1. +1
                  August 4 2016
                  Hariton, you think correctly.
                  But express your thoughts extremely emotionally and aggressively. Big things are not done loudly. Big things love silence ...
                  If somewhere someone shouts: that means he has no time to work and he is not building anything serious. Or they use it to hide something really serious.
                  That is why they treat Ukrainians like cattle: only full and final idiots have time to jump and yell!
                  1. -1
                    August 4 2016
                    Quote: Bramb
                    Hariton, you think correctly.
                    But express your thoughts extremely emotionally and aggressively. Big things are not done loudly. Big things love silence ...

                    Emotions and aggression are present of course .. (I suffer greatly because of this)))) But here is the forum and the steam I have the right to release? And politics, this is politics .. (everyone smiles sweetly there and then spoils each other ..)))
                    I'm just tired of being a politician ... I am writing that I think and do not care ... (but it’s easy on my soul ..)
                    If I’m wrong, I can apologize to everyone ..! It became difficult here on the site, fear is felt by many .. Maybe it seems to me? (but intuition rarely let me down ..) hi
            2. +1
              August 4 2016
              Quote: Chariton
              .And for Ukraine OUR we will fight,I promise you this!

              Mikhan, you’re talking about this for 2 of the year, 8 has changed your nicknames, but you still haven’t torn your ass from the sofa laughing
              1. 0
                August 4 2016
                I didn’t tear my ass from the sofa
                And he is right on the couch in battle Yes . Like most local fighters.
              2. +1
                August 4 2016
                Quote: atalef
                Quote: Chariton
                .And for Ukraine OUR we will fight,I promise you this!

                Mikhan, you’ve been talking about this for 2 years, 8 nicknames have been changed, but you still haven’t torn your ass from the sofa laughing

                - he is with him (sofa) has grown together related laughing
                - and so - well, people behave primitive phishing to earn stars ... well, he likes it, probably request
      2. +2
        August 5 2016
        You are like a smart janitor, poorly versed in the class structure of society. Firstly, the USA is not technologically capable of producing analogues of Russian TVELs - a different school, a different production culture (I understand that for you it is like a brain explosion, because the USA is the world leader in EVERYTHING! They supposedly flew to the Moon); secondly, the United States does not have the ability to process spent fuel. At least for today. They are centrifugal production only in 2020. plan to run. We have been doing this since 1952! The lag is 70 years ... Third, Russia does accept spent fuel, both its own and that of others. Because it is profitable. Russia has no analogues (I was told it must be said unique) technologies for the processing of this fuel, its re-enrichment, or final disposal, as mentioned above, with 97% process efficiency. Uranium and its derivatives in the near future will be a key energy carrier for the global economy. The amount of uranium on the planet is not unlimited, repeated and subsequent cycles of its processing, the very possibility of carrying them out is the destiny of exclusively world economic leaders by 2050. We are the only ones so far, as with the nuclear icebreaker fleet, and it makes me happy. I can’t say that for you.
  43. +2
    August 4 2016
    This is good. Imagine how beautiful those glowing from radiation and galloping in the dark around burning tires will look. laughing
    1. +4
      August 4 2016
      Quote: Sergey333
      This is good. Imagine how beautiful glowing from radiation will look.

      Save on lighting
      Quote: Sergey333
      galloping in the dark

      You disprove yourself, if they glow, then there will be no darkness laughing
      1. +2
        August 4 2016
        if they glow, then the darkness


        Not a fact, depending on which range they will glow. alpha, beta, gamma, x-ray - there will definitely not be light here.
      2. 0
        August 5 2016
        Quote: atalef
        You disprove yourself, if they glow, then there will be no darkness


        What is more important: the sun or the moon? The answer is the moon, because it shines at night, and the sun during the day, when it is already so light ...
  44. -9
    August 4 2016
    flattening cattle Russia on all market fronts, minus how many tens of millions of shares per year the brainless will receive
    1. +1
      August 4 2016
      Quote: Relight
      flattening cattle Russia on all market fronts, minus how many tens of millions of shares per year the brainless will receive

      Svidomo jumped in)))) Do not disgrace Ukrainians ... The whole world is already laughing at you, do you write your nonsense and greed, from the farm?
      1. +1
        August 4 2016
        Hariton, I won’t recognize you. Where is your famous, WET, WET AND WET again.
        1. 0
          August 4 2016
          Quote: Chisain
          Hariton, I won’t recognize you. Where is your famous, WET, WET AND WET again.

          Yes, they urinate like in Syria ..! Here in the Donbass, it is planned that Bandera’s atrocities are atrocities at the shelling of cities and towns of Donbass ... Teeth will be held together, damn it and your malice is inappropriate here ...
  45. 0
    August 4 2016
    And what, someone seriously believes that the current Bandera junta really cares for the interests of the outskirts! Parashka and his team are simply working out their silver coins. The interests of the people (by the way, really zombified!) Are of no interest to anyone. So that the "dump" in Chernobyl will indeed be expanded and deepened, and that they will not live long in the outskirts.
  46. 0
    August 4 2016
    I do not see the point of entering into a discussion. The comments of Kars and Atalef are enough to see what they say to those who tried to reasonably dispute.
    It is not for nothing that in articles about Ukraine, phrases are always inserted right away so that there is one stamping hohlosrach in the comments. This time the phrase “Maidan community” came up. Nobody knows who it is - I don't know anyone like that. but apparently the "Maidan public" is terribly interested in the "Russian public".
    The Smolino plant was good. Because with Rosatom. And all that is with the Russian Federation-Russians estimate well. All that is not with them is bad a priori. And it is useless to judge - after all, in the Russian Federation there is the same wild capitalism and all because of "DAMNED MONEY". Banal money here and there. The interests of Rosatom and the Americans are for the market. Rosatom will lose the market, will lose money. There is no point in judging who is good or bad. All are the same. This is capitalism.
    And the article would be good if not for a biased attitude at all.
    1. -2
      August 4 2016
      Quote: Retvizan
      The interests of Rosatom and the Americans for the market. Rosatom will lose the market, it will lose money. It makes no sense to judge who is good and who is bad. All the same. This is capitalism.
      And the article would be good if not for a biased attitude at all.


      Well, we need to pay, you are a "free and independent country" ..?
      And here's another topic I think ...
      http://sharij.net/60747 РФ отказала Украине в поставках электроэнергии, – Насалик
      During the peak summer heat, Ukraine turned to the Russian Federation with a request for technical assistance and additional electricity supplies, but was refused. This was announced on August 4 at a press conference by the Minister of Energy and Coal Industry of Ukraine Igor Nasalik, reports UNN. “We turned to Russia for technical assistance, which refused us this assistance,” Nasalik said. […] Http://sharij.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/e`lektri ..

      We need money, gentlemen Europeans .. Let your owners pay for your "freedom from us" Freebie is over, soon we will cut gas (except for Donbass)
      As the song says "Think for yourself, decide for yourself ... To have or not to have ..!"
      In short, we will finish you, we will .. You are tired of us American dogs in Kiev .. Do not be offended! soldier
      1. 0
        August 4 2016
        Hariton, did you come up with something new? To finish, this is how and most importantly what?
        1. -3
          August 4 2016
          Quote: Chisain
          Hariton, did you come up with something new? To finish, this is how and most importantly what?

          Morally ..and with humor! And there are a lot of methods, here we choose ... In the meantime, in Chinese, we are waiting for the corpse of our enemy to pass by us ..))))) Patience really ends, it’s not our style .. bully But it already smells of corpses ...
    2. 0
      August 4 2016
      Sorry. Are you a specialist in nuclear power?
      Ukrainians are ready to enter into a discussion always and about everything that they have never even heard of. And here: "not ready" ...
      Who will you be by profession?

      However, it seems to me that I will not see the answer.))
    3. 0
      August 4 2016
      I do not see the point of entering into a discussion.


      What are you going to discuss?
      - Build a radio cemetery, business is business. At least some dibs will drip. And then the German green versus against nuclear waste.
      - Build the production of fuel rods for the Ukrainian. NPP? Actually, I do not recommend it; Russia will not give specifications and technology. Most likely ruin your nuclear power plants and this will end. You can work for export.

      Not the whole market, inside the country there are usually green ones. Which, against such an information background, sail into the Rada or the State Duma.
      Good luck, gentlemen.
  47. 0
    August 4 2016
    How to stop these madmen?
    It would be nice if they would only ruin their people, because in the event of a catastrophe everyone would get it — Belarus, Russia, and Europe would be hooked. And after all, no protests.
    Sick rulers of a sick people. Although what is there to say about the "great-ukrov" when the same Europeans are ready to draw a target on their chests, placing American missile defense systems on their territory.
  48. +1
    August 4 2016
    An interesting picture is drawn if three puzzles are put together - “Westinghouse Electric Company LLC” (in conjunction with John Brennan), accusation of Russia by Pendoshkan’s Deputy Minister of Energy Elizabeth Sherwood-Randall (at a closed industry meeting) in
    a successful attack on the Ukrainian energy system in December 2015, and the construction of a nuclear fuel plant in Ukraine.
    Here the option with accusations of nuclear terrorism on Russia is logical - evil "separatists", nudged by the even more evil Putin, arrange a terrorist attack, a radioactive cloud covers Europe, everyone is happy.
    Mnogohodovka in the image of the doping scandal.

    PS
    Regarding the doping scandal, you can pretend that it is "god's dew", but our sports bureaucrats were really put cancer, and how this story ended (football championship 2018) is a big question.
    1. +1
      August 4 2016
      construction of a nuclear fuel production plant in Ukraine.


      In Westinghouse, no one fell from an oak tree to build a nuclear fuel plant in Ukraine in the current political conflict.
  49. 0
    August 4 2016
    If that is so, then it is not bad.
    Only details confuse: American fuel at VVER has not yet been tested, the result is unknown, and they have already begun to build a plant. And what else confuses: not just a factory, but immediately a storage! And agreed so immediately and quickly!
    Here, a conventional nuclear power plant has been considered for years (both with us and with them: everywhere), and here it’s raz! And they even agreed on a construction site and who will build it.
    Thirdly, Vestov’s real capacities are quite enough for existing nuclear power plants. Why splurge?
    Well, and fourthly: Vestovskoye fuel is 30% more expensive than Russian. Those. this is at least 15% higher electricity tariffs, and everything else even more, respectively.
    From personal experience: such difficult things are quickly done nowhere. Something's dirty here ...

    Although, doubts gnaw at me that everything will be limited to one storage only. Which already exists de facto. It's just that everything is frankly lying there, and not buried. But this is the "exclusion zone". ))
  50. +5
    August 4 2016
    Does it not occur to you that a fuel cell plant is a beautiful wrapper for signing a contract for the construction of a repository?
    Never will Mattress transfer technology to billions of dollars to some narrow-minded protoucram.
    The burial ground - please. For all nuclear power plants in Geyrop.
    1. 0
      August 4 2016
      Well, where did you get so wondrous?
      There was a change! And now, again, zrada?
      How is it? ... burn in hell! padded jacket, colorado ... well, etc. )))
  51. wow
    0
    August 4 2016
    The joy and jumps of the “ov” will end very badly. Or do they (s) think that Westinghouse will do everything for free...?
  52. 0
    August 4 2016
    On the site of the former Ukraine, territory and vehicles remained. What happened to the country that the United States invaded? Black hole.
  53. SAA
    +1
    August 4 2016
    laughing
    Dreams, projects, and more dreams. How they want to be great.
    It’s better to organize normal vocational schools for plasterers and plumbers. Otherwise, they are doing some kind of “crooked” repairs in Sevastopol. They will continue to work like this, we will return home and will unload the uranium with shovels.
  54. 0
    August 4 2016
    Maybe we also need to diversify our waste (and not only nuclear) into the Ukrainian landfill; it seems they will accept all the shit with great joy and will say thank you, as long as they are paid the money. Just a dump for the wild west! negative
  55. 0
    August 4 2016
    By the way, it’s not for nothing that Russia reprocesses spent nuclear fuel smile

    It contains platinum metals as fragmentation products of uranium fission (2,1 kg of ruthenium, 400 grams of rhodium and 1200 grams of palladium per ton of spent fuel).

    According to the forecast, by 2030, the total accumulation of extremely rare and dispersed rhodium in spent nuclear fuel will be equal to its total global reserves.

    Maybe the Ukrainians also want to get rich? laughing
  56. 0
    August 4 2016
    Quote: Alex_Tug
    In Westinghouse, no one fell from an oak tree to build a nuclear fuel plant in Ukraine in the current political conflict.

    But no one will produce it there; they will bury it there in rusty, thin barrels. And the heroes of Ukraine will jump for joy that the West has turned its attention to them.
  57. 0
    August 4 2016
    The bad thing is that the nuclear dump will be there forever, it is clear that all the scrap will be brought from the EU and the USA, of course, no one needs it, but here they even ask for more. The nonsense with the banditry will still pass and they will beat themselves in the chest that they are one people and the Russian Vanya will have to clean it up again.
  58. 0
    August 4 2016
    They are covering us with shit from all sides, in Georgia they are breeding bacteria, in the country 404 nuclear waste will be poisonous
  59. 0
    August 4 2016
    Quote: Denis Obukhov
    Information about the construction of a dry storage facility for spent nuclear fuel was slyly presented. Plant, ! All over the world, the nuclear fuel supplier takes on the responsibility for the subsequent removal and disposal of spent fuel. And only suckers "vparili" storage of waste on their own territory. A garbage country.

    It’s strange, why don’t the Americans take waste from their fuel for recycling? They really don’t do this; everyone who buys fuel from them disposes of waste themselves.
  60. 0
    August 4 2016
    Zaporizhzhya NPP has had such a storage facility for a long time.
  61. 0
    August 5 2016
    It’s good that the USSR collapsed in 1991. Otherwise, through the “Time” program, we would still be fed crap that these slutty guys in Turkic trousers and with ponytails on their heads are our “brothers,” always ready to betray and sell.
  62. 0
    August 5 2016
    another Yankee project of blackmailing the EU and Russia, we just didn’t have enough of the Ukrainian nuclear dump nearby...
  63. 0
    August 5 2016
    Westinghouse resells and plans to further resell Russian nuclear fuel in pellets, repackaging them in TVEL assemblies. If Ukraine agrees to buy nameplates, that’s its business, but the situation is that its own American nuclear power plants do not have enough American fuel, they buy it in Russia, and gas diffusion enrichment technology is more expensive than Russian ones. Moreover, the disposal of nuclear fuel waste. That is, the plant is obviously ruinous for Ukraine. But who is interested in the problems of the natives when they still have dollars or gold dust?

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