Erdogan conducts promised reforms in the armed forces

The Turkish government removed the ground forces, the Air Force and Navy from the General Staff submission and reassigned them to the Defense Ministry, reports RIA News with reference to a government decree published by Resmi Gazete.

The document also gives the right of the first persons of the state - the president and the prime minister - to directly give orders to the Armed Forces "without the approval of any other authorized persons". In this case, the military "must immediately execute such orders."

In addition, the decree ceases the activity of "military academies and schools for the training of junior officers." Educational institutions will continue their work under the leadership of the National University of Defense, which will consist of professional military schools.

As for the Gulhane Military Medical Academy in Istanbul and military hospitals, they were removed from the Ministry of Defense and transferred to the Turkish Ministry of Health.

Recall that these measures were taken by the Turkish government after the attempted coup d'etat undertaken on the night of July 16.

Comments

[Gladius]

The President of Turkey simply strengthens his power over the military, doesn’t smell like a special reform, over time the Turkish army will be an obedient instrument in Erdogan’s hands, ready to go where the new Sultan will send him.

[Skubudu]

As long as the Turkish people support him, he is banking.

[chikenous59]

Quote: Gladius

The President of Turkey simply strengthens his power over the military, doesn’t smell like a special reform, over time the Turkish army will be an obedient instrument in Erdogan’s hands, ready to go where the new Sultan will send him.

What you wrote is the norm for a combat-ready army of any state.
Is this not so in our country? The army reports primarily to the president.
So all these "reforms" are quite appropriate.

[Gladius]

The army is subordinate to the president - who is arguing with you, but Erdogan, unfortunately, is not an ordinary president, I am a president with very great charisma and great plans. It would be better if the army in Turkey did not report directly to the president, there would be someone who could stop in time the Sultan.

[Temples]

It would be better if in Turkey the army did not report directly to the president ...

Who would be better off?
You?

"I have such a personal dislike for Erdogan that I cannot eat ..."

but Erdogan, unfortunately, is not an ordinary president, I am a president with very great charisma and great plans.

What is wrong with this for the Turks?

[Gladius]

Quote: Temples

It would be better if in Turkey the army did not report directly to the president ...

Who would be better off?
You?

"I have such a personal dislike for Erdogan that I cannot eat ..."

but Erdogan, unfortunately, is not an ordinary president, I am a president with very great charisma and great plans.

What is wrong with this for the Turks?

It would be better for you Russians, since having received sole power over the military, Erdogan would arrange some kind of provocation on the Syrian border and bring in the Turkish army. This will happen, in a few years, he still has not gone for it, since the army did not was completely loyal to him. Your bases in Syria will not stop him. In the event of a conflict, he will announce that he will restore peace and order in the country.

[Uncle]

Quote: Gladius

Your bases in Syria won't stop him

Putin said well of the Calibers: "I hope they never have to be equipped with nuclear warheads." Is the hint clear?

[APASUS]

Quote: chikenous59

What you have written is the norm for an efficient army of any state. Isn't that so in our country? The army is primarily subordinate to the president. So all these "reforms" are quite appropriate.

The army in Turkey and power are separate, if in Russia the President is the guarantor of the constitution, then in Turkey the Army is the guarantor.
This was conceived by Ataturk and described the structure of the state in his covenants. Now Erdogan is trying to build a sultanate from a secular state

[win]

And they shot down a Russian pilot without permission?

[co-creator]

Apparently yes. Judging by the structure of the armed forces and the fact that several thousand officers participated in the conspiracy, this is entirely possible.

[NIKNN]

Quote: Siegen

A Russian pilot was shot down without permission

This could only happen in an anarchist terrorist gang of lawlessness, but not in the country ...

[Pitot]

Strengthens power over the military? On the contrary, Dogan robs the military of power over the country, over itself, over parliament.

[Gladius]

Quote: Pitot

Strengthens power over the military? On the contrary, Dogan robs the military of power over the country, over itself, over parliament.

Who argues with you - Erdogan robs the military of power over himself - this is the same as he strengthens power over the military. In a few years, if there is the same mess in Syria as now, Erdogan will give the order and the Turkish army will demolish Syria and establish its control over the country. Many will disagree with me, but everything shows that things are going to this. Erdogan has not yet decided on this, since he did not have control over his military. After a few years, the military at Erdogan will be like silk.

[Mavrikiy]

Answer: Gladius AM Today, 10:15 AM
And to whom in all countries the Armed Forces are subordinate, not the Minister of War, by chance?
"In a few years, if Syria has the same mess as it is now."[i] [/ i] Dream, "Turkish dreamer"
"Erdogan will give an order and the Turkish army will tear down Syria"[i] [/ i I'm afraid to disappoint you, but I suspect the GDP will not approve the directive. And the Turkish army will remain in the stall.]
Many will disagree with me, but everything shows that the matter is going to this.[i] [/ i]
First, yes. The second is not.
In a few years, the military at Erdogan will be like silk[i] [/ i]. Harvest Turkey, the silk army, where to put it? On the rugs, or what?

[Gladius]

For Mavrikiy
What is your confidence that in Syria in a few years there will be quiet and smooth? Where are the prerequisites that I do not see, show me them.
Several thousand Russian soldiers will not stop the Turkish army and its president, Erdogan was still stopped by his own army and its general staff. Until September 2015, there were no Russian soldiers in Syria, but Erdogan did not dare to get into Syria, knowing that he had in the army weak positions.
The Turkish army will be silk for Erdogan, but not for those whom Mr. Turks will consider his enemies. In Turkey, a lot of money has been spent lately on modernizing the army, this course will continue.

[dauria]

Erdogan was still stopped by his own army and its general staff

What a wonder is the Turkish General Staff? The ultimate truth? The correct and fair arbitration court from another galaxy does not depend on anyone for anything? From whose hands does this General Staff feed? Holy spirit?

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Gladius

For Mavrikiy
What is your confidence that in Syria in a few years there will be quiet and smooth? Where are the prerequisites that I do not see, show me them.
Several thousand Russian soldiers will not stop the Turkish army and its president, Erdogan was still stopped by his own army and its general staff. Until September 2015, there were no Russian soldiers in Syria, but Erdogan did not dare to get into Syria, knowing that he had in the army weak positions.
The Turkish army will be silk for Erdogan, but not for those whom Mr. Turks will consider his enemies. In Turkey, a lot of money has been spent lately on modernizing the army, this course will continue.

Wai dear, why are you talking so badly about Erdogan? Does he have a chamber pot instead of a head? For ONE idiotic act and ONE our plane, he paid such a price, went through this ... And you, the smartest of the smartest, suggest that he multiply the column by "thousands of Russian military"? Something hit you in the head. You may not like Russians, serials together with Erdogan or separately. But Erdogan will never go where there are Russians. (Millions of Turkish armies, on new equipment, in new uniforms, trample all the flags of the world ... Quit smoking, switch to vodka. The real world)

[sergey2017]

With Turkish aria it’s clear! To ensure his safety, Erdogan would like the leaders of the National Intelligence Organization and the General Staff to report directly to the president. Currently, the leaders of both structures are subordinate to the head of the Cabinet. This will require amendments to the constitution, and this decision can only be made together with the leaders of the opposition parties. It's not so simple!

[Observer2014]

Erdogan conducts promised reforms in the armed forces

Sorry, this is not a reform. But a "purge".

[AlexTires]

Most likely, Erdogan will build the leadership of the armed forces according to our model. In the NATO version, he was not the Commander-in-Chief of his own armed forces and did not control the army, only appointing the Commander-in-Chief, who led the General Staff, and the NATO superior headquarters himself. Vaguely reminiscent of a central bank management system. Now, it turns out that the Turkish troops thereby completely removed from submission to NATO command. There is something to think about ...

[rotmistr60]

the decree terminates the activities of "military academies and schools for the training of junior officers." Educational institutions will continue their work under the leadership of the National University of Defense, which will consist of from professional military schools.

Apparently, they will begin to learn how to love the Motherland and, most importantly, the president from youth. Maybe it’s right. But these are Turkish affairs and they should rake their jambs.

[Masya masya]

So no end of work! Plant, don’t overwhelm ... Your hand will not get tired ...

[Dave36]

GDP-squeeze Turkish lemon to the fullest ... without unnecessary pathos in the media !!

[black]

He can reassign anything. But it will take years to replace qualified military personnel. A disciplined, motivated, but poorly trained army, advances well in minefields.

[Dulat]

If the Russian plane was shot down by "putschists", why did Erdogan not ask for forgiveness even then?

[flay]

Quote: Dulat

If the Russian plane was shot down by "putschists", why did Erdogan not ask for forgiveness even then?

1. Erdogan did not yet know that they were coup.
2. You would be in place of Erdogan, too, would admit to the whole world that not You are alone run the country?

[martin-159]

Erdogan has many enemies, both internal and external, but the people support him.
Our president also has a similar situation. So maybe he decided to work under Putin?