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Basurin: VSU is being dragged to the line of contact “Grads” and “Acacia”

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APU transferred to the Donbass of the MLRS "Grad", self-propelled "Acacia", as well as vehicles with ammunition, reports RIA News the message of the deputy commander of the operational command "Donetsk" Eduard Basurin.

Basurin: VSU is being dragged to the line of contact “Grads” and “Acacia”
Archive photo

“We continue to fix the strengthening of the enemy grouping in violation of the Minsk agreements. So, in the area of ​​the village Kalchik, the arrival of two MLRS "Grad", three units of ACS "Acacia", eight units of automotive vehicles with ammunition, four units of infantry fighting vehicles, ”said Basurin.

He also said that within a day the Kiev security forces had fired around 800 mines and shells across the territory of the DPR.

“Over the past day, the number of attacks was 817 times. The enemy inflicted massive artillery fire on the settlements of the republic, firing 28 artillery shells with caliber 122 and 152 mm, 739 mines with caliber 82 and 120 mm, as well as 11 tank shells. In addition, the shelling was conducted from infantry fighting vehicles, grenade launchers and small arms weapons"Told Basurin.

According to him, the fire was conducted in Gorlovka, Donetsk, Kominternovo, Yasinovataya and Sakhanka.

“As a result of shelling of the Kuibyshev and Petrovsky districts, 14 houses were damaged. As a result of another shelling, Zaitsevo was seriously wounded by a civilian 1958 of the year of birth, ”the command representative added.

The increase in the number of shelling, in his opinion, is connected with the attempt of the Ukrainian Armed Forces to provoke the militia to return fire.

“These provocations from the side of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are timed to the upcoming next talks in the format of the Norman Four,” said Basurin.
Photos used:
AFP 2016 / Volodymyr Shuvayev
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  1. Andrey K
    Andrey K 1 August 2016 09: 36
    +17
    APU pulled to the contact line "Grad" and "Acacia"

    Negotiations on the nose, that's pulling.
    And the OSCE, as usual, does not "see" and "does not hear" ...
    1. Andrey K
      Andrey K 1 August 2016 09: 45
      +8
      DPR Ministry of Defense for July 31:
    2. vkl.47
      vkl.47 1 August 2016 09: 52
      +5
      and everyone is silent. as if it should be
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 1 August 2016 10: 35
        +14
        vkl.47 SU hi
        and everyone is silent. as if it should be
        A colleague is not silent, they are not silent. Shoigu announced in plain text a week ago that he had created an attack fist from 12 divisions. The procession was held as a last chance to change their minds. Lavrov raised the question of preparing the APU for the invasion more than once. So there are a little more hints than a lot.
        Anyway, the Ukrainian authorities need a war. They can’t survive the winter anyway. But here everything is possible to write off to Russia.
        p / s If you beat it right away. Decisively and lightning fast.
    3. DMB_95
      DMB_95 1 August 2016 09: 54
      +12
      Quote: Andrey K
      APU pulled to the contact line "Grad" and "Acacia"

      Negotiations on the nose, that's pulling.
      And the OSCE, as usual, does not "see" and "does not hear" ...

      The OSCE is a useless and often downright harmful organization that should not be counted on. And it's time for Novorossia to forget about such an annoying mistake as the "Minsk Agreements" and uncover the weapons allotted for someone's stupidity.
    4. The comment was deleted.
    5. siberalt
      siberalt 1 August 2016 11: 14
      +2
      It looks like the "Minsk-3" is brewing right up to Mariupol and Slavensk.
  2. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 1 August 2016 09: 39
    +12
    Nefig fix them - spit on these Minsk agreements and hammer them! Drive the enemy away from your land!
  3. Trigger-Happy
    Trigger-Happy 1 August 2016 09: 39
    +5
    In a good way, it is necessary to suppress the points from which shelling is carried out. Apparently nothing simple.
    1. lav67
      lav67 1 August 2016 09: 47
      +6
      I think there is, politics does not allow.
    2. Alekseev
      Alekseev 1 August 2016 10: 57
      +4
      Quote: Trigger-Happy
      In a good way, suppress points

      It has already been explained that suppressing all the "points" is in no way possible. request
      There are points of these - well, just heaps. He released a couple of mines in the direction of the village from the mortar for 10 seconds and into cover. Podavika ...
      Some people press, "yak coma": hospitals in Kharkov and the Dnieper are not empty at all, and they carry around 200 people.
      BUT ... To suppress so that there is no large-scale shelling at all, it is possible only the entire so-called ATO, and an independent banderlog would also not hurt.
  4. atamankko
    atamankko 1 August 2016 09: 41
    +4
    OSCE - blind-deaf-mute puppets of the EU and the USA, how will you react?
  5. tulpar
    tulpar 1 August 2016 09: 42
    +14
    circus left clowns stayed
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 1 August 2016 11: 23
      0
      circus left clowns forgotten.
  6. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 1 August 2016 09: 43
    +2
    Quote: Trigger-Happy
    In a good way, it is necessary to suppress the points from which shelling is carried out. Apparently nothing simple.
    I have no doubt that they will crush, a little later, when they rock the boat. So far they answer as necessary.
  7. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 1 August 2016 09: 45
    +2
    Representatives of the "glorious" OSCE mission again do not see anything. Probably not yet recovered from the "shock" after their arrest. Correctly say - "seven nannies have a child without an eye." How many nannies this Ukraine has, but there is zero sense in peacekeeping.
  8. PValery53
    PValery53 1 August 2016 09: 51
    +1
    How can vehicles with ammunition of dill be passed in the direction of Donbass ?! - They all MUST BE blown up on the borders of Donbass! - And then the shelling of the population by itself will be bent!
    1. PValery53
      PValery53 1 August 2016 18: 09
      0
      Some of them ... quietly vote for the shelling of Donbass ?!
  9. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 1 August 2016 09: 58
    +7
    "Otvetka" from VSN also flies, no doubt. If dill is not weeded, it will become immensely impudent. By the way, most of the mortars are "poured". Apparently, with ammunition for artillery, and with the resource of the barrels, the horses are going to have a "tension". As expected. wassat
    1. avt
      avt 1 August 2016 10: 21
      +9
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      "Otvetka" from VSN also flies, no doubt.

      Well, something like that today with the "Russian Spring"
      Around 01:00 a Ukrainian shell hit the house on Stepnaya Street in the Kuybyshevsky District of Donetsk, a severe fire started (see photo).

      Yasinovataya was under heavy fire by large-caliber artillery of the enemy (152 mm), part of the hits fell into apartment buildings, a civilian died from the rupture of one of the ammunition in her apartment.

      After some time, powerful explosions suddenly occurred at the positions of the APU. Local residents distinctly heard them.

      A battery of Ukrainian howitzers exploded for unknown reasons and could no longer continue to shell the city. Militias vigorously discuss unknown reasons that prompted the detonation of Ukrainian artillery and ammunition.
      I would like confirmation from the field and if it is true - "unknown reason" should be presented for the award.
  10. sergey2017
    sergey2017 1 August 2016 10: 07
    +5
    Ukraine has prepared a reserve and mounted all strike groups for military operations in order to eliminate the DPR and LPR. The resumption of large-scale military clashes can be expected at any moment! The most important thing is the DPR and LPR must be prepared for any events!
    1. Alekseev
      Alekseev 1 August 2016 11: 17
      +3
      Quote: sergey2017
      Ukraine has prepared a reserve and mounted all shock groups

      Perhaps not mounted, but deployed and alerted. smile
      But - this is unlikely. Putin directly stated that he would not allow a military solution to the issue.
      And some kind of ukroblitskrig there, which implies the assault of two large cities and many smaller settlements, is a fantasy. It is long, boring, bloody and dangerous. Everyone understands this.
      What is the fire from? Despair. Moreover, pay attention only to the "front lines". Shchyry Ukrainians are afraid to hit in the depths, because they know that the answer to this option can lead to the fact that the rear of the ATO will be quickly mixed with the city ... And then this ATO itself will also face the same fate.
      And there are no more offensive platoons. Parashenka knows that if 200-300, 1000 warriors are cocked at a time, which is quite likely when trying to launch a large-scale strike, there will be a bucha, where he will be the main gunner-guard.
      More battery explosions "for unknown reasons" (due to the use of WTO yes), the mass replenishment of banderlogs and the enormous bulk of ranks 200-300-xx that joined them and, you see, the war will end along with the collapse of the unfinished heritage of the collapse of the USSR.
      1. Vitaly72
        Vitaly72 2 August 2016 00: 20
        0
        I don’t agree on everything, but your syllable would amaze everyone
  11. Dave36
    Dave36 1 August 2016 10: 17
    -1
    Something is being pulled for a long time .. here when they go to a breakthrough, we’ll think
  12. Romin
    Romin 1 August 2016 10: 21
    .
    We have news from Russia24 silence.
    For Russia, there is no DNI or LC in the submission of info media.
    They made two parallel realities.
    There is no information for the masses, there is no fact of the shelling. We applied the "technology".
    Which is alarming, if dill collect and boil, then our silently recognize integrity.
    Or that which is specially lured for a blow, turning a blind eye to the preparation, reconnaissance, and shelling.
    One thing is clear for sure that silencing the exacerbation with the DPR is a well-thought-out line, but it is also clear that this will lead to escalation. Our sun does not intend to take part in the database and political leadership now, in the wake of the swing to lift sanctions, the war is just not needed. Then why are they silent?
    What result do you want to get?
    Every day civilian casualties and infrastructure collapse, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are preparing an assault.
    Even if the DNI repels the attack, it will still accuse Russia of escalating and will not remove any sanctions.
    Everyone already understands everything about "dreams" to Kiev that this will not happen! The chance was and it was missed. Our leadership literally pushed the vacillating population of Ukraine towards the "Western" forces. At the same time, our leadership is not engaged in legalization - recognition of the DPR and LPR! It is a fact!
    He buries his eyes on the shelling and creates a situation "yes take them back". I declare complete non-interference.
    Now republics can only rely on their own strength. And stand or not depends only on themselves.
    That was the Surkov-Nuland plan.
    This is to pass the east to the zapadents. And our leadership adheres to this line. Sad but true.
    I do not agree with such a line in relation to the DPR and LPR.
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null 1 August 2016 10: 42
      +5
      Quote: Romin
      if dill is gathered and boiled, then our silently recognize the integrity

      - who told you that? Or did you make it ... yourself?
      - could - would have been "hit" long ago. Not "hit", it means that something is interfering. What do you think?

      Quote: Romin
      Our leadership literally pushed the hesitant population of Ukraine towards "Western" forces

      - yeah. For 25 years, such a "population" was brought up there that it "fluctuated" in exactly one direction. Those same "Western forces"
      - which they were allowed to do. Now the "population" is eating the fruits of victory with a full spoon, already cracking behind their ears

      Quote: Romin
      Now republics can only rely on their own strength. And stand or not depends only on themselves

      - Do you believe in what you write?

      Quote: Romin
      That was the Surkov-Nuland plan

      - no and there was no such plan request

      Quote: Romin
      This is to pass the east to the zapadents. And our leadership adheres to this line.

      - mdya ... a bad case ...

      Quote: Romin
      I disagree with such a line in relation to the DPR and LPR

      - this "line" was invented by you
      - disagreement with oneself is a split personality. This is a disease, dear yes
      1. Romin
        Romin 1 August 2016 12: 13
        0
        Smiled;)))
        In addition to tearing words out of context, you probably know how to express more succinctly, I hope.
        Based on what you wrote, it follows that
        Do you know what and why does the APU interfere with the transition to the restoration of territorial integrity?
        And what kind of term ... Such a "population" .... What is this? Do you think they are worse than us?
        And what Surkov privately met with Nuland? Or maybe there weren’t any negotiations at all?
        What voices do the information whisper to you;)))

        My opinion, regarding the line of our leadership, is based solely on the facts of not recognizing the DNI and LC. Minsk agreements. Negotiations Surkov-Nuland. And our entire foreign policy towards Ukraine over the past 25 years. And this is a fact! Young man and my opinion.
        And "cheer", as you in the comments, you need to reasonably, based on facts.
        1. Cat man null
          Cat man null 1 August 2016 21: 40
          0
          Quote: Romin
          My opinion about the line of our leadership is based ...

          - I understand your opinion. And I'm not interested. For nonsense.

          Quote: Romin
          And "cheer"as you are in the comments, need to be based on facts ...

          - well, try
          - just keep in mind that what

          Quote: Romin
          Did Surkov and Nuland meet privately?

          - is not a proof of the existence of some kind of plan "Surkov-Nuland"
          - Putin also met with Obama ... what, there is also a "plan" ?!

          Tie the plan, by the way ... or else - first the plan, then the wheels ... will not bring to good yes
          1. Romin
            Romin 2 August 2016 13: 05
            0
            In this case, I see that you are not tuned to a constructive dialogue.
            And move on to minor insults, which speaks of your essence and attitude towards people around you and about the place to which you "elevate" yourself and not about successful self-realization (work and you will succeed)
            I’m not familiar with you, but as they say, a person’s speech and thoughts can say a lot about him.
            Do you understand what I'm talking about ;)
            And points:
            If my opinion is not interesting, do not read and do not evaluate.
            Regarding the medical side of drug addiction, believe me, I can tell you a lot more than you tell me, since I have one of the specialized formations for its treatment.
            You see, how you, a little stupid, put yourself in a situation of a petty offender, completely not knowing anything about the subscriber.
            And for the future, remember, doubt in everything is a sign of intelligence.
            And respect for the interlocutor first of all shows your usefulness and respect for yourself.
    2. dumpy15
      dumpy15 1 August 2016 10: 45
      +2
      Do not rush to conclusions. The United States said the same in July-August 2014, and the satellites will never lift sanctions from Russia. On this issue, no one in the Russian leadership has any illusions.
    3. Baloo
      Baloo 1 August 2016 11: 32
      +4
      Son, this is not an ex-matzo, I made a mistake with the address.
      Politics is the art of the possible. Russia is doing everything possible to avoid large-scale hostilities in the center of Europe.
      Banderlogs do not use aviation, although it is tightened. This is a plus. Have you ever practiced judo or at least aiki-do? Try simultaneously against 5-6 opponents at a time. This is only happening in Chinese cinema quickly. It is important to stand on your feet and restrain, not to let you get close, especially if there is nowhere to run. And if it began, to line up all in one line so that they interfere with each other and cut down one at a time. There is no alternative to observing the Minsk agreements, although they ended in non-compliance on 31.12.15/XNUMX/XNUMX. Russia is focusing, perhaps before
      the next liberation of the geyrops from the yoke of the Macington macaques.
    4. avt
      avt 1 August 2016 11: 46
      +3
      Quote: Romin
      ! The chance was and it was missed. Our leadership literally pushed the vacillating population of Ukraine towards the "Western" forces. At the same time, our leadership is not engaged in legalization - the recognition of the DPR and LPR! It is a fact!

      Adept of the Girkin sect, 300 riflemen and Babai "?" Putin leaked "has not been heard for a long time, but the campaign has begun a bit early, Girkin and his followers will all be en masse to the President's side. Here, according to the same scheme as now in Armenia, there are also 30 people with little children, a revolution "with the resignation of the government for" draining Karabakh ", and indeed for everything good for the sake of Armenians all over the World. Look, even some singer of Armenian blood from the USA reproached that de policemen are local well .... not competent, they need to be reforged in the USA. But what if Sagsyan really, according to US police rules, would have dispersed unauthorized rallies IMMEDIATELY? How would the “right and left defenders” howl?
      Quote: Romin
      This is to pass the east to the zapadents. And our leadership adheres to this line. Sad but true.
      I do not agree with such a line in relation to the DPR and LPR.

      this is still a false start, sit quietly until 18, well, and only then, according to Girkin / Strelka's precepts, start fighting according to his instructions - "for the Russians from Brest to Vladivostok" and ..... drain Syria, again according to his covenant.
  13. maxim1987
    maxim1987 1 August 2016 10: 25
    0
    Quote: vkl.47
    and everyone is silent. as if it should be


    Yeah. The Donetsk residents have been proving their patience for a year now. It’s only interesting how they explain it to the parents of those who died during this time under shelling of children and the residents of destroyed houses
    1. Vladimir61
      Vladimir61 1 August 2016 11: 06
      0
      They beat in response, without embarrassment and looking back at the OSCE, in contrast to the leadership of the LPR.
  14. Dave36
    Dave36 1 August 2016 10: 28
    -3
    Yes, patience, rather from a dead end ... will go to Ukraine ... they will be evicted and punished, if not, there is a chance to survive. Why pressurize the mass media, the Olympics are enough for Syria
  15. Dave36
    Dave36 1 August 2016 10: 50
    +2
    But in general, be patient, August will be fast and hot for events. Our commander-in-chief does not scratch the language of the media ... no one will be forgotten and forgiven ... an example .. without unnecessary hype, they blocked the gas of Khokhlov ....
  16. shinobi
    shinobi 1 August 2016 10: 50
    +2
    It’s too late to start a full-scale war on the Bandera, time has been lost, and the strengths are not the same. Again, polite people in green can suddenly appear. They will provoke. It’s a pity for ordinary people, they will beat them.
  17. Dr. Sorge
    Dr. Sorge 1 August 2016 11: 03
    +3
    hope for the invincible Spirit of the Russian World and the North wind.
    And politicians only express concerns.

    May God grant victory to New Russia!
  18. VSZMK
    VSZMK 1 August 2016 11: 07
    0
    In Ukraine, a much more deplorable situation may develop than in Syria.
    This was announced by the military prosecutor of the so-called ATO Konstantin Kulik. According to him, Ukraine is threatened with unrest, which will turn the country into a second Syria, if not worse.
    “So that we won’t be envious of Syria because their people took to the streets without weapons, and we have already taken out a huge amount of weapons from the anti-terrorist operation zone and everyone who wants to take part in the riots will be armed,” Kulik said .
    He also noted that at the moment, various groups in Ukraine have already defined specific goals. The bandits already have a plan of robberies in the Ukrainian capital, in addition, victims are outlined. And groupings will act quickly and without delay.
    Kulik noted that it is worth remembering that the bandits are armed and even managed to gain experience in the so-called ATO. Therefore, they are becoming even more dangerous; they cannot be quickly neutralized. Members of the so-called "volunteer battalions" and the National Guard represent a great danger.
    “Personally, I do not see a clear organization of control over their activities, I see that they include a lot of people previously convicted of various crimes. There were cases when we detained fighters of such kind-men for committing a crime, and some had three and some had four convictions. Moreover, these persons are illegally acting officers of the country's law enforcement body, ”Kulik said.
    At the same time, fighters will justify any of their actions by patriotism.
    “For example, the former felon Konstantin Grishin, who, in the wake of patriotism, as a project of the special services, has become the People’s Deputy of Ukraine Semyon Semenchenko and is walking with a group of people, terrorizing the courts in Kiev, trying to release more arrested people and bring them to his group,” he said Sandpiper....
    Source: http://nahnews.org/875833-kulik-skoro-ukraina-budet-zavidovat-sirii/#more-875833
  19. private person
    private person 1 August 2016 11: 17
    -1
    Judging by the news from the DPR, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have everything that is pulled to the border, and they are pulling and pulling, based on Basurin’s words, there’s nowhere to drop an apple. It’s time to lay out documentary evidence, or just words, then they write with the Ukrainians there’s nothing left to fight, or they are pulling countless hordes and the same statements literally every two or three days.
  20. win
    win 1 August 2016 12: 17
    +6
    Romin (1) RU  Today, 10:21 ... if dill collects and blows, then our silently acknowledge integrity ... specially lure for blow

    Usually the Olympic Games start ...
    1. nadezhiva
      nadezhiva 1 August 2016 14: 23
      0
      5th of August this year. But they can’t pierce so stupidly? for this date, plus or minus is waiting.
  21. Valkh
    Valkh 1 August 2016 12: 45
    0
    Quote: siberalt
    It looks like the "Minsk-3" is brewing right up to Mariupol and Slavensk.

    Rather, the most lions)))
  22. Romin
    Romin 1 August 2016 12: 59
    0
    Quote: avt
    Quote: Romin
    ! The chance was and it was missed. Our leadership literally pushed the vacillating population of Ukraine towards the "Western" forces. At the same time, our leadership is not engaged in legalization - the recognition of the DPR and LPR! It is a fact!

    Adept of the Girkin sect, 300 riflemen and Babai "?" Putin leaked "has not been heard for a long time, but the campaign has begun a bit early, Girkin and his followers will all be en masse to the President's side. Here, according to the same scheme as now in Armenia, there are also 30 people with little children, a revolution "with the resignation of the government for" draining Karabakh ", and indeed for everything good for the sake of Armenians all over the World. Look, even some singer of Armenian blood from the USA reproached that de policemen are local well .... not competent, they need to be reforged in the USA. But what if Sagsyan really, according to US police rules, would have dispersed unauthorized rallies IMMEDIATELY? How would the “right and left defenders” howl?
    Quote: Romin
    This is to pass the east to the zapadents. And our leadership adheres to this line. Sad but true.
    I do not agree with such a line in relation to the DPR and LPR.

    this is still a false start, sit quietly until 18, well, and only then, according to Girkin / Strelka's precepts, start fighting according to his instructions - "for the Russians from Brest to Vladivostok" and ..... drain Syria, again according to his covenant.

    Brrr ... Everything is mixed up ... People ... Horses ..,
    Sorry, with all due respect to you, I could not understand you.
    But I don't want to answer you in the style of "myself ...".
    You are probably a healthy person and understand that there are many opinions, and if these opinions differ from those declared by you, this does not mean that it is not true. Sometimes, you know, it happens that people make mistakes and it happens that you make mistakes yourself. And this is normal.
    Throwing groundless, unsubstantiated accusations, as you know, is the height of incompetence in any field.
    And if you blame me for something, take the trouble to clarify and clarify.
    At least I will be aware of who they are: Girkins / Strelkovs and what they eat with;)))
    And to see and discuss the flaws in our foreign and domestic policies is useful primarily for ourselves, since not seeing errors, they do not correct them.
    And for the future, a little advice, do not shut up and do not teach people what to do and do not hear where you should go.
    Mutual respect and factual arguments make your posts more meaningful.
    1. avt
      avt 1 August 2016 17: 01
      +2
      Quote: Romin
      Sorry, with all due respect to you, I could not understand you.

      Why understand that? Well, I'll try again - Putin! Bring in the troops! "And, Putin merged Novorossiya!" - the classic chants of the followers of the Girkin / Strelkov sect, from the same place, from the head of the sect and about the adventure in Syria.
      Quote: Romin
      You are probably a healthy person and understand

      It is quite sound, so much so that I can distinguish a person ANALYZING the totality of facts from different angles, from a person repeating freely, or not freely, someone else's thought completely imbedded in him.
      Quote: Romin
      Sometimes, you know, it happens that people make mistakes and it happens that you make mistakes yourself. And this is normal.

      Normally, BUT if a person draws erroneous conclusions with the objective not knowing the facts hidden from him, but not dismissing those that do not fit into a completely embedded matrix.
      Quote: Romin
      At least I will be aware of who they are: Girkins / Strelkovs and what they eat with;)))

      Look at my past comments in time - I have already said everything.
      Quote: Romin
      And if you blame me for something, take the trouble to clarify and clarify.

      I am not accusing - I am stating a fact, and I draw quite an analogy with the scenario played out now in Armenia, there, too, a group of respected people tried to skip the action for which Girkin is being prepared, he actually does not mind, because he has already stated how Potkin / Belov fought with illegal immigrants, Udaltsov and Analny really swelled quickly, so this one will "fight against the rights of the Russian people from Brest to Vladivostok", well, the crowd needs exactly the same sincerely believing. Yes, in fact, it was already at one time =, Boris - fight! "
      Quote: Romin
      And for the future, a little advice, do not shut up and do not teach people what to do and do not hear where you should go.

      laughing I already wrote the same - I never taught anyone and I don't teach. And to send, so the site was refined, well, all one warning was sent to me just now, and I don’t start blacklists.
      Quote: Romin
      Mutual respect and factual arguments make your posts more meaningful.

      request What is in the measure of knowledge of the described subject, but the subject of "sectology" and how people fly in sincerely believing that they themselves so cleverly conceived, is to some extent an irritant for me, do you know memories from the time of Kashpirovsky's sessions and a minute of silence Chumak on the radio with the loading of cans and creams, since even then it was possible to see the backstage of these "tstliteli". Girkin is no exception, only they work according to the Grabovoi system and he will not resurrect and will not charge tubes with cream and jars of water.
      1. unsinkable
        unsinkable 1 August 2016 21: 04
        +1
        Quote: avt
        I do not blame - I ascertain the fact

        And I blame. Provocateur. Romin.
        1. Romin
          Romin 2 August 2016 12: 53
          0
          In order not to repeat, if you want to see my answer, please see my answer AVT.
          I respect your opinion, but reject your charge. And I affirm that you are wrong.
          I can only speculate about your motives ...;)
      2. Romin
        Romin 2 August 2016 12: 47
        0
        Sorry, but I don’t understand you.
        What an interesting conversation between the deaf and blind.
        "Chumak ... Banks ... Coffin ... sects ... Girkins ... Brest, Vladivostok ... Putin merged, introduce ... Armenia ... Potkin ... Anal ... Udaltsov
        ..."
        So, dear, you write specifically.
        I'll explain, I'm a lot far from what I indicated in the "...".
        If you want to confuse me, then well, you succeeded, because I do not understand you!
        I don’t want to offend you, not in any way, but when I was taking a course in psychiatry I also studied "couple ..." states. Believe me, such discontinuity of speech, confusion of topics and a certain hyperemotion is not a good sign. Think about it, please.
        And in the case:
        I repeat once again, on this site I express exclusively my opinion, I express my thoughts as I see fit. And I have every right to do so, just like you. If there is something to "discuss", then I will be happy and interested to exchange my opinion with you. You know that the truth is always somewhere nearby.
        Therefore, let's respect each other and not "shut up". Since there is no single Correct opinion in this world! Do you agree with me?
  23. private person
    private person 1 August 2016 14: 52
    -4
    Yes, here some couch patriots only cheers know how to yell.
  24. private person
    private person 1 August 2016 14: 58
    -1
    Quote: tulpar
    circus left clowns stayed

    Yes, in Russia, it’s not better to see artists, sportswomen, and those who have a lot of money.
  25. Mobik
    Mobik 1 August 2016 16: 02
    +2
    Olympics soon, it's time to start a war game. This is a tradition with the Amers.
  26. Yun Klob
    Yun Klob 1 August 2016 16: 27
    +1
    Opening of the Olympics soon. All according to the training manual.
  27. Yugra
    Yugra 1 August 2016 20: 28
    +2
    This time, if it starts, to drive Ukrainians to Kiev, returning the lands of Donbass ...
  28. unsinkable
    unsinkable 1 August 2016 21: 00
    0
    Quote: Romin
    based on the facts.

    I do not see the facts in your comments. Only speculation. You are the provocateur, my friend. negative
  29. unsinkable
    unsinkable 1 August 2016 21: 10
    0
    I am very sorry that I did not meet the comment of the colleague of the Lord of Sith. VO veterans will understand me. hi
  30. Romin
    Romin 2 August 2016 12: 25
    0
    Quote: unsinkable
    Quote: Romin
    based on the facts.

    I do not see the facts in your comments. Only speculation. You are the provocateur, my friend. negative


    Welcome.
    If you, besides, again, unfounded unsubstantiated posts say nothing, then it’s sad.
    The allegations need to be supported by facts, not inferences.
    And get acquainted, perhaps, with new methods of analysis and forecasting. As you probably know that self-education is useful and does not cause stagnation of neurons. That also deprives the individual of the "crown" and the illusory confidence in his righteousness, divorced from reality.
    Take a look, please.
    This method is called: Analytical forecasting.
    I am sure you will discover a lot of new things. There is still modeling, but this, as they say in the next series