Can Muslim believers blow up Muslim temples?

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From Yemen comes the information that the militants representing the Salafi movement, close to al-Qaeda, conducted a kind of action to intimidate their opponents. This action consisted in the fact that the terrorists blew up the ancient mosque. According to experts, the mosque was built in the XVI century. It is reported that the organizer of the explosion of the mosque was one of the leaders of Al-Qaida in the south-east of Yemen, Abu al-Abbas.

Attention is drawn to the fact that the so-called Salafis are fighting on the side of the current Yemeni government against the Houthis. The occupation forces of Saudi Arabia and other monarchies of the Arabian Peninsula are actively supporting them in this.

The explosion of an ancient mosque, organized by the Islamists, once again suggests that these people have nothing to do with Islam.

Can Muslim believers blow up Muslim temples?


Against this background, the statement of Pope Francis, who called for not identifying Islam with terrorism, looks very relevant. After a series of terrorist attacks launched by Islamists in Europe, it is precisely to this identification that a considerable part of European society is slipping.

Words Francis leads news agency Reuters:
I can't talk about Muslim violence. Every day, opening newspapers, I see violence here in Italy. Someone took the life of his girlfriend, someone - mother-in-law. And these are baptized Catholics. It turns out that if we talk about Muslim violence, then we need to talk about Catholic violence.

According to the head of the Roman Catholic Church, the ideology of enrichment is at the head of terrorism. Francis notes that such an ideology has money in the center, not a person, and that it is this ideology that leads to the degradation of civilization.
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  1. +22
    1 August 2016 09: 01
    Islamists and the so-called shahids are Iblises, for them Islam is only a cover for their abominable nature of rapists and murderers. They refer to some surahs of the Qur'an and fatwas of their leaders, covering their own need for violence. Not a single city captured by terrorists has become a model of prosperity. Everywhere dirt, violence and war. And their so-called spirituality directly depends on the money of the sheikh or emir who finances this whole mess.
    1. +15
      1 August 2016 09: 16
      What these killers believe in is some kind of perverted form of Satanism, and has nothing to do with Islam or even with any of its exotic currents. This is something else. So, I personally dislike the fact that, unfortunately, they are called "Islamists" because they hide behind them.
      1. +9
        1 August 2016 09: 22
        Quote: Knizhnik
        What these killers believe in is some kind of perverted form of Satanism, and has nothing to do with Islam or even some of its exotic movements.

        Yes, you are extremists, we are fascists, everywhere there are degenerates.
        Although the Nazis did not die shouting - for Jesus! But this does not change the essence.
        And, precisely, there were still crusaders (I call them ancient NATO members). Those are still muDaki.
        Of course, it’s bad that today Islam has acquired such a distorted negative connotation thanks to such and such antics.

        PS
        By the way, the crusaders still exist. Only they are no longer interested in Jesus (pederasts are now serving in the army, what kind of Jesus is there). They are interested in money, and the global model of Anglo-Saxon greatness. It is not yet known who the biggest gangster is, the terrorists are extremists, or those with whose money these extremists organize their events around the world.
        1. +4
          1 August 2016 09: 37
          The whole misfortune of the modern world is the dominance of politics and money over the spiritual component, which is surprising here, it used to be, but not in such proportions. Social networks have more influence than the church ...
          1. 0
            1 August 2016 13: 08
            Quote: NIKNN
            The whole misfortune of the modern world is the dominance of politics and money over the spiritual component, which is surprising here, it used to be, but not in such proportions. Social networks have more influence than the church ...

            In the dominance of money over the spiritual component, and politics is already an instrument in achieving the goal, as in other things and liberal values, gender-juvenile ideology
        2. +7
          1 August 2016 09: 45
          Quote: _Vladislav_
          Although the Nazis did not die shouting - for Jesus! But this does not change the essence.

          But the fascists had the words "God with us" on their belts
          1. +3
            1 August 2016 10: 03
            Quote: 0255
            But the fascists had the words "God with us" on their belts

            Yeah, just like the U.S. Army - we god in trust
            1. 0
              1 August 2016 16: 42
              Quote: _Vladislav_
              Yeah, just like the U.S. Army - we god in trust


              Generally it translates as "We trust in God", or "We believe in God", "We hope in God" ...

              But there is also a conspiracy theological version of this translation, which, it seems to me, is more real ...
              Allegedly in this phrase god considered abbreviated gold...

              What then will mean: "We believe (and hope) in gold" ...

              Well, with amers this is understandable in practice ...
              1. +1
                2 August 2016 02: 03
                Quote: weksha50
                But there is also a conspiracy theological version of this translation, which, it seems to me, is more real ...
                Allegedly, in this phrase god is considered as abbreviated gold ...

                Let me add a little conspiracy theological version: it is believed that GOD is an abbreviation for the words Gold, Oil, Diamants. In my opinion it’s even more real. But there is another version: they wanted to initially write In God We Trust, All Others Pay Cash (we believe in God, and everyone else pays in cash) it simply did not fit on the banknote and they always keep the second part in mind lol hi
                1. 0
                  2 August 2016 02: 11
                  Diamonds, to be completely American.
                2. -1
                  2 August 2016 03: 37
                  In God We Trust, All Others Pay Cash (We believe in God, and everyone else pays in cash)
                  Anglo-Saxon folk proverb meaning a fundamental refusal from the post-payment of goods / services provided. Something like money on a barrel!
            2. +1
              2 August 2016 01: 45
              Quote: _Vladislav_
              Yeah, just like the U.S. Army - we god in trust

              Let me correct a little: in god we trust (in God we believe - literally) the inscription on the back of dollar bills. I do not pretend to be the ultimate truth, but in my opinion building we god in trust is pointless hi
        3. +2
          1 August 2016 10: 16
          Quote: _Vladislav_
          Although the Nazis did not die shouting - for Jesus!

          They died shouting "Heil Hitler". But with shouts of "Christ is Risen!" nobody kills, that's for sure.
        4. +1
          1 August 2016 16: 35
          Quote: _Vladislav_
          everywhere have their own degenerates.
          Although the Nazis did not die shouting - for Jesus! But this does not change the essence.



          The fascist soldiers had an inscription on their belt badges: "God is with us" ...
          The current terrorists shout: "Allahu Akbar" ...
          That is, any militant current with an admixture of nationalism calls for itself to help HIS God ...

          If you think about it and analytically spread your brains, then a truly normal person in this world should become an atheist ...

          The point is not in the religion and names of the Gods, but in those who very skillfully use the religion and religiosity of people for extreme extremist movements in order to destroy-conquer-intimidation, thereby achieving power and wealth ...
      2. 0
        1 August 2016 11: 53
        I agree with those who believe that terrorism has no nationality or religion, but we must not forget that for the last thirty years terrorists have been shouting "Allah-Akbar"!
      3. +2
        1 August 2016 16: 01
        Quote: Knizhnik
        What these killers believe in is some kind of perverted form of Satanism, and has nothing to do with Islam or even with any of its exotic currents. This is something else. So, I personally dislike the fact that, unfortunately, they are called "Islamists" because they hide behind them.

        It's a lie. They are related to Islam, since at least they hide behind it and justify their actions. Rni themselves believe that they are guided by "pure" Islam.
        Another thing is that Islam itself has nothing to do with them. Those. Islam does not seem to notice them. We need mullahs, muftis, imams, ulema and all those who save their ummahs from the influence of these shaitans-terrorists. They need to be defeated not only and not so much on the battlefield, but between each person’s two ears.
        It is impossible to hush up the fact that ordinary members of ISIS and similar terrorists are not driven by money, power, glory, honor, eternal memory and not even respect for people. They are driven by higher, more subtle, and therefore stronger motives - spiritual. Yes, with t. people educated properly, it is obvious that these motives are deception. But with t. the society of these "warriors" looks as if after death they end up in eternal paradise, receive something much larger and more important, more expensive than all the wealth, all the possibilities of this mortal, temporary world. They are driven, as they believe, by the words of Muhammad (peace be upon him!). And they really use them. But is it the Prophet's fault that his words are used by ignorant people to justify their ignorance? It's not his fault.
        Many believe that ISIS can be defeated by the power of firearms. This force can only be suspended for a while. If ISIS is not touched, ISIS will outlive itself. But only by no means everyone around will survive.
        ISIS can only be defeated by the Muslims themselves. Healthy, educated, spiritually strong Muslims. And so that they appear, it is necessary to educate those who can make Muslims just like that.
    2. 0
      1 August 2016 09: 21
      Respected! I will correct you, but not the money of the "sheikh or the emir", but from the shekels of the world Jewish capital! Each of the terrorists plays their assigned role for them.
      1. -2
        1 August 2016 10: 16
        Quote: Siberian
        but from the shekels of world Jewish capital!

        Relieved laughing
      2. +3
        1 August 2016 10: 47
        In fact, traces lead to Saudi Arabia, and controlled by them Qatar, Oman and others. These people live in their own world, where the main thing is their happy life, which they support, instilling in all Muslims the idea of ​​their authority. They do not care about progress, high art, in their world there is a war with "others" - Shiites, supporters of other religions, atheists. This is their meaning of life, into which billions of petrodollars are flooded. Because they are afraid. And it would be surprising if such phobias were not used by someone cunning, such as the United States.
        1. 0
          1 August 2016 11: 53
          In fact, the tracks lead to Shaitan. Someone sold to him with giblets. Shaitan is not a myth, a real character in the form of a jackal beast, before you appears in three faces, in profile, in human form, the main head on your left when you turn to the jackal’s sharp ear appears to you. The voice is mechanical, it’s very difficult to cry out, it’s very difficult to ask, but ask why not Satan? I think Asian blood pours more, therefore it has the appearance of an Asian. It has two Worlds: in one adultery, where there are no virgins observed in the second murder, they urinate each other not childishly, the beast lives in it. When you don’t cry, do not ask the devil, because for him there is neither time nor distance, he will come to you for your Soul.
    3. +2
      1 August 2016 11: 13
      Quote: Altona
      . And their so-called spirituality directly depends on the money of the sheikh or emir who finances this whole mess.

      Those that explode and explode are believers in their own way, and cynics and atheists lead them. They do not even suspect that they are led by a bag of money and ambition.
      What these killers believe in is some kind of perverse form of Satanism, and has nothing to do with Islam or even some of its exotic movements.
      They just do not consider themselves Satanists, he is the lucky owner of a "ticket to heaven". The main Satanists overseas and their allies in the Emirates.
      And the terrorists have nothing to do with Islam, and under cover of it, commit their atrocities.
      They are recruiting their followers from the Islamic world. The type of recruitment is about the same as in all totalitarian sects, from Scientologists and St. Jehovah to Herbalife.
      1. 0
        1 August 2016 11: 52
        Medieval Jesuits are just children in front of emissary-recruiting sheikhs for making excuses for nefarious deeds. Imagine a horrible crime - mass murder, murder of a priest, rape of a child. And suddenly someone not stupid and with a well-hung tongue explains that it is, as it were, allowed (as the sheikhs say) to "warriors", and in general, "during jihad everything is possible." That is, practically according to Lukyanenko (by the way, a good psychologist), if the Dark Force prevailed, then Everything.
      2. 0
        1 August 2016 16: 46
        Quote: volot-voin
        Those that explode and explode are believers in their own way, and cynics and atheists lead them. They do not even suspect that they are led by a bag of money and ambition.


        Truly ... The same formula by which revolutions take place and their fruits are used ...

        And with the rest of your conclusions, I also completely agree ... hi
  2. +7
    1 August 2016 09: 13
    Islam is being discredited, and for those who stand behind it, it still works.
    And the terrorists have nothing to do with Islam, and under cover of it, commit their atrocities.
    1. +1
      1 August 2016 14: 41
      Have you heard about such a conspiracy theological theory that the British Secret Service has been working with Wahhabis since the 19th century?
      1. +2
        1 August 2016 20: 51
        How not to hear! Lawrence of Arabia what did you do in Arabia?
      2. +1
        2 August 2016 05: 36
        There was no terrorism as a phenomenon in the Middle East. It was brought there by the British. However, the Brits "gave" the world a lot of things - one can recall the concentration camps of the Anglo-Boer War.
        By the way, something about the IRA has not been heard for a long time, apparently it has become irrelevant and the shaving has turned off work in this direction.
  3. +6
    1 August 2016 09: 16
    The militants in Aleppo conceived a cunning counter-operation. Once again, I am amazed at those who think that these are slippers below them and are talking about their superiority.
    The dispositions are not yet clear, but the presence and use of armored vehicles by the militants suggests that the presence from the air is not enough. In my opinion, Syria needs intelligence first of all. To detect clusters and forestall such attacks.

    1. 0
      1 August 2016 11: 58
      Quote: KG_patriot_last
      The militants in Aleppo conceived a cunning counter-operation. Once again, I am amazed at those who think that these are slippers below them and are talking about their superiority.

      The barmaleevs have all the rules here. The Americans train the “greens”, but the “blacks” have always had a good command.
      The Caliphate recently shared information about the defeat of the troops of the "New Syrian Army", which was prepared by the CIA and which suffered a painful defeat near Abu Kemal a month ago, and some of the "greens" then went over to the side of the "blacks" (yes, in fact, the difference between them and so small) and posted a video from the captured computers with American instructors and the Jordanian military present.
      Here is an abridged version - propaganda and cutting off the bosos are cut out:


      More detailed information can be found here: http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/2868368.html

      and here: http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/2833358.html

      Presumably a CIA officer. In the video itself, he says that the Caliphate is very well organized and "green", it is necessary to take an example from him in order to achieve the same success:
  4. +1
    1 August 2016 09: 16
    What do they mosque, as a place for the worship of religious rituals? They undermine themselves for the glory of the afterlife. And here is the mosque. They will blow up anyone and anything, especially when they are wide before it.
    And the Pope is wrong. Scandal with my mother-in-law or my wife, this does not mean blowing myself up, them and a few dozen, who happened to be nearby, passers-by (or parishioners). So it is possible to equate a child squeezing a cat with the martyrs. Oh, that tolerance.
  5. +6
    1 August 2016 09: 20
    And with what enthusiasm Christians slaughtered each other in the Middle Ages ... Catholics of Protestants, Lutherans of Catholics.
    Any religion can be adapted to your goals. Moreover, the temple of any religion in a poor country, it is an ideal place for sermons, where people go daily.
  6. 0
    1 August 2016 09: 28
    Can Muslim believers blow up Muslim temples? Scumbags enough. Monkeys (I do not want to offend the monkeys) were given grenades. So they declare themselves to be known about them in a loud way. Blow up mosques, historical monuments, cut off heads with publication ...
  7. +2
    1 August 2016 09: 29
    Answering a question in the title - easily. For Salafis, Shiites are munafics (and vice versa).
    Also Shiites and Sunnis in Iraq and Syria.
  8. +4
    1 August 2016 09: 35
    terrorists blew up an ancient mosque

    Why be surprised? The same happened in Afghanistan and Syria. Ancient monuments were destroyed, but before that they were cynically plundered. And, interestingly, historical artifacts calmly floated to Europe and to the Anglo-Saxons. What kind of believing Muslims can we talk about? Loot and greed of the West are the main criteria for the so-called. "jihad".
  9. -1
    1 August 2016 09: 36
    If he prays to Allah, considers himself a Muslim, then they can see. It is not a matter of religion, but of people.
  10. 0
    1 August 2016 09: 39
    "Can Muslim believers blow up Muslim temples?"
    The question needs to be clarified: what are Muslims believers in? Believers in Islam are quite adequate and tolerant to themselves, but Islam obviously has a great unifying potential that can be used for purposes that are far from the principles of humanism. But for some reason, only Muslims blow up mosques in order to punish those who disagree, and Orthodox churches in Ukraine are blown up by "valiant" fighters against Muscovites, destroying their population. Apparently, the basis here is another belief - not in religion, but in terror, which, however, is only a tool for working with the population.
  11. 0
    1 August 2016 09: 41
    I can't talk about Muslim violence. Every day, opening newspapers, I see violence here in Italy. Someone took the life of his girlfriend, someone - mother-in-law. And these are baptized Catholics. It turns out that if we talk about Muslim violence, then we need to talk about Catholic violence.

    only they do not blow up churches, it is one thing to "knock" a mother-in-law (in the vast majority of cases it is a commonplace) and quite another to take the lives of dozens of people under the guise of religious ideas. Something I did not hear that someone declared jihad to his wife or mother-in-law.
    1. +1
      1 August 2016 10: 21
      Quote: Bulrumeb
      only now they don’t blow up churches

      The church is now rented, in the morning the Catholic Mass, then a meeting of Protestants or Jehovah's Witnesses, after lunch gathering of LGBT communities. Until we figured out when to blow up, it will come to that.
  12. +1
    1 August 2016 09: 46
    Terrorists are nonhumans without religion.
  13. -3
    1 August 2016 10: 00
    Of course, maybe these are still psychopaths, but atheists from the Soviet southern SSR did not blow anyone up. In general, the only real way to fight terrorism is to expel Muslim and non-Muslim Muslims from the country where they do not exist - there are no problems with terrorism!
    1. 0
      1 August 2016 21: 01
      Quote: good7
      atheists didn’t blow anyone out of the Soviet southern SSR


      Why only from the southern SSR? And atheists in general? Communists of all stripes in particular? And the anarchists, with their motto "Neither God, nor Lord!" How many terrorist attacks were carried out in Europe a hundred and fifty years ago? It is in the Soviet censored version, Professor Moriarty became a mafia - and read the original!
    2. 0
      1 August 2016 21: 01
      Quote: good7
      atheists didn’t blow anyone out of the Soviet southern SSR


      Why only from the southern SSR? And atheists in general? Communists of all stripes in particular? And the anarchists, with their motto "Neither God, nor Lord!" How many terrorist attacks were carried out in Europe a hundred and fifty years ago? It is in the Soviet censored version, Professor Moriarty became a mafia - and read the original!
  14. 0
    1 August 2016 10: 18
    Fascists, communists, Islamists, terrorists ....

    The question arises - is a human being a rational creature or an unsuccessful natural mutation?
    1. 0
      1 August 2016 10: 49
      The nature of man is made by the SOUL, and the body is an intermediary between thoughts and action, but the soul of a person is prone to two ways, GOOD EVIL ... that's the answer
  15. +2
    1 August 2016 10: 22
    terrorists blew up an ancient mosque

    There is nothing sacred for terrorists: neither a mosque, nor a church, nor the tears of children. The fiend of hell is simple. request
  16. 0
    1 August 2016 10: 23
    Francis notes that such an ideology is centered on money, not man, and that it is precisely such an ideology that leads to the degradation of civilization. ,,
    something all of this reminds me of building a consumer society. where is our society so eager.
  17. +1
    1 August 2016 10: 47
    The words of Francis are quoted by Reuters:
    I can’t talk about Muslim violence. Every day, when I open newspapers, I see violence here in Italy. Someone took the life of their girlfriend, someone - mother-in-law. And these are baptized Catholics. It turns out that if we talk about Muslim violence, then we need to talk about Catholic violence. Stupidity
    The difference is that there was some kind of motive and possibly in a state of passion, and jihadists indiscriminately and Muslims and Christians kill there, that is, for them there is no difference friend or foe, the main thing is to commit violence and the more they suffer, the better for them ...
  18. -2
    1 August 2016 11: 04
    What the hell is this? Again populist nonsense! In style, this is not Islam. Again self-deception that all Muslims are against these non-humans, so to speak, "with us." No, comrades. Yes, this is their Islam, and this Islam has millions of adherents, and such Islam is fed, by the way, from mosques from all over the world, which, in turn, may not support such an interpretation of Islam, so what? Does history really teach nothing? Did the "Western brothers in faith", plundering Constantinople (the center of Eastern Christianity), suddenly cease to be "true Christians"? No, they haven't stopped.
  19. 0
    1 August 2016 11: 05
    "Can Muslim believers blow up Muslim temples?"
    Why not? Here read about the stone that is hidden in the Kaaba:
    "How did the Black Stone end up in a silver setting? It turns out that the stone suffered in the Middle Ages at the hands of the Kurmutids (Karmat) sect. They declared the Hajj an act of superstition. To make it more convincing, they killed tens of thousands of pilgrims and threw their bodies into the Zam-Zam spring."
    But even such a monstrous act was not enough for them. These madmen stole the Black Stone. No one could force them to put the stone back in place until they themselves did it after 22 years. He was brought in broken. The silver setting keeps the Stone intact and prevents it from falling apart (see photo). Historians say that not all fragments of the Stone have been found. "
    http://bakdar.org/view_index.php?id=2113
    1. +1
      1 August 2016 12: 10
      ISIS plans to destroy the main Muslim shrines in Mecca and Medina, including the Kaaba, for them it is a pagan temple, according to history it is, it is a pre-Muslim shrine, but the Prophet himself was engaged in reformatting these places of worship under a new religion.
      So Russia, fighting against organizations prohibited in Russia, also defends Islam, because this struggle finds support in the Islamic world.
      And the fact that extremists destroy primarily all Islamic shrines and temples that do not fit into their understanding is well known.
    2. 0
      1 August 2016 21: 19
      Quote: V.ic
      They brought him broken.


      And I had to read that the halves of the Black Stone Karmat used as foot rests in the outhouse ...
  20. +1
    1 August 2016 18: 49
    Prophet Muhammad said a smart thing. Yes, experts on the Qur'an and Hadith will not be offended, since I do not remember the exact quote, but the following was approximately said:
    "The teaching of Musa (Moses) will be divided into dozens of streams. The teaching of Isa (Jesus) will be divided into dormitories of streams. My teaching will be divided into thousands of streams. And none of them will exactly correspond to what I wanted to convey to you ..." ...
    As in the water looked.
    In the wars of Muslims against Muslims, far more people died than in wars of Muslims against anyone else.
    1. +1
      2 August 2016 14: 47
      Currents in religion appeared as a result of the interpretation of holy books by people. And since in antiquity, and sometimes even now, with literacy is tight .. We have what we have.
      Py.Sy. I have read the Bible and a couple of gospels for my horizons. But it seems that few of those sitting here read the Qur'an.