How two Polish Air Force fighters with a light-engine aircraft managed

On the Polish TVP channel, the head of the Polish Defense Ministry’s press service, Bartlomiej Mischewicz, announced that at once two F-16 fighters of the country's air force "intercepted a Russian light-engined training aircraft heading towards Krakow." According to Mishchevich, the interception was carried out when the Russian aircraft was in the “exclusion zone”. The pilot of the training board, as stated by the spokesman for the Polish Defense Ministry, "is undergoing the necessary procedures."

Information Agency TASS reports that the plane was heading to the city of Radom, where competitions in aviation acrobatics. Pilots of the Polish Air Force demanded that the Russian manned a light-engine aircraft land in the Sadkow area. At the same time, the plane was sent to a special hangar, and his pilot to the police station. The Russian consulate monitors the fate of a Russian citizen.

Apparently, now this case, by intercepting as much as two fighters of the Polish Air Force of one light-engined aircraft, will be included in the textbooks of Polish aviation, the authors of which will point out all the measures taken to “deter the aggressor”. At the same time, it is hardly necessary to assume that the aircraft followed the competitions that started in Poland without prior agreement with their organizers.

Comments

[Riperbahn]

It’s just not clear why the USSR Air Defense Forces failed to cope with Mathias Rust Cessna.

[KOH]

So the USSR humpback began to merge what you wanted ...

[captain]

Dear KON, what does Gorbachev have to do with it, they stupidly looked at the plane, they could not even intercept and land it. Our air defense at that time looked very dull, if not more rude. The air defense leadership held on to its places, state transfers, the Volga, etc. They had no time to think about the country.

[KOH]

What you say convinces me even more that they handed over the country ..., led by a hunchback ...

[Oorfene Deuce]

Quote: captain

they looked at the plane stupidly, they couldn’t even intercept and land it. Our air defense at that time looked very dull, to say the least

Well, hello ... The Rust plane was driven from the border itself, and they sent the interceptors accompanying it ... Air defense had nothing to do with it.
The period of detente, confusion, confusion and unwillingness of the leadership to take responsibility led to the result that he calmly flew to Moscow. They could bring him down calmly and repeatedly.

[2ez]

He was seen, he was led ... Only when he landed somewhere in the USSR, Rust changed clothes, the plane was refueled, and then he landed on Red Square, having passed all the air defense cordons of the country and Moscow ... And who gave the order not to touch him?

[Ryabtsev Grigory Evgenievich]

Not tired of replicating stories about landing-refueling-dressing? Did you personally accompany him at the departure point and see what he was wearing? And in general, stripping off your overalls is a matter of one minute. This time and the autopilot will "steer"

[Phoenix_L'vov]

Rust flew without a single landing. They didn’t bring him down at the border just because they admitted the possibility that a defector was flying.

[Mahmut]

sent and interceptors accompanying him ... Air defense has nothing to do with it.

Here are those grandmother and yuriy day. And the interceptors are no longer air defense?

[Oorfene Deuce]

Quote: Mahmut

And the interceptors are no longer air defense?

Did I say that? The pilots did not have an order for destruction.

[4ekist]

At the first stage, Rusta accompanied the air defense unit of Kohtla-Järve (Estonia) and twice flew around the fighter on duty in the area of ​​responsibility of the Leningrad air defense corps.

[Bath]

frenzied muzzle definitely overcame, met a Pole in Russia

[bastard]

Quote: Bath

frenzied muzzle definitely overcame, met a Pole in Russia

Do not forget to put on your headphones, otherwise you will lose your hearing from a hearty pig squeal.

[jktu66]

The subordinates of their commander-in-chief were simply afraid, and Rust led but did not report.

[Verdun]

Quote: captain

Dear KON, what does Gorbachev have to do with it, they stupidly looked at the plane, they could not even intercept and land it

Precisely because they watched it, Rust's plane was flown several times by fighter jets that climbed to intercept?

[captain]

Tales of Andersan.

[not main]

Quote: captain

Dear KON, what does Gorbachev have to do with it, they stupidly looked at the plane, they could not even intercept and land it. Our air defense at that time looked very dull, if not more rude. The air defense leadership held on to its places, state transfers, the Volga, etc. They had no time to think about the country.

Stupidly and not smart! They could knock down Rusta more than once, but no one dared to give the order! 1983 Syndrome!

[Nevsky_ZU]

Quote: Riperbahn

It’s just not clear why the USSR Air Defense Forces failed to cope with Mathias Rust Cessna.

Because the interception of the Russian light vehicle was planned by the Polish air force. It is not clear why Rust was not intercepted? Because after 1985, our country was already occupied and was preparing for the sale by auction. With 1988 in the country, some parts of the USSR Armed Forces have already fought with other parts of the USSR Armed Forces in Transcaucasia.

And I almost forgot why the Polish F-16, can not intercept Ukrainian An-2 cigarette smuggling at the border? Ukrainian maize farmers quietly plant on the territory of Poland, and only the walking Polish border guard finds them sometimes

[Red_Hamer]

They found a way to spoil Russia, and the Pope of Rome will be appointed the last (they’re like a switchman)

[4ekist]

All aircraft fly according to plans and requests (with the exception of some, such as MSS, interception of offenders, etc.) Surely our light engine flew at the request, where the departure time, aircraft type, exact route, altitude, flight speed, estimated landing time are discussed. , the name of the pilot. The departure clearance was obtained, radio communication with the dispatchers was maintained. And the fact that the Polish air defense decided to "practice" on a Russian light engine, which flew according to plan, does not make them heroes, on the contrary, d @ beels in uniform.

[Alex_Tug]

And the fact that the Polish air defense decided to "practice" on a Russian light engine, which flew according to plan, does not make them heroes, on the contrary, d @ beels in uniform.

There are some misunderstandings, "unmanned zone" over Krakow until August 4. The fighters worked correctly. But with the resolution it is not clear whether some kind of docking has occurred.

[kotvov]

There are some misunderstandings, there is an "unmanned zone" over Krakow until August 4.
This should be known to the dispatcher, not the pilot. They give permission to take off, the route.

[ARS56]

The pilot was primitively framed, so as not to be allowed to compete.
It is ridiculous and disgusting to hear how some of our leaders are advocating for a "common European home", for a single space with vile scum.

[Reserve buildbat]

"All aircraft fly according to plans and requests (with the exception of some, such as MSS, interception of offenders, etc.). Surely, our light engine flew at the request, where the departure time, aircraft type, exact route, altitude, flight speed, estimated time are discussed. landing, the name of the pilot. Permission to take off was received, radio communication with the dispatchers was maintained. And the fact that the Polish air defense decided to "practice" on a Russian light motor, which flew according to plan, this does not make them heroes, on the contrary, d @ beels in uniform. "

If all this data had not been transmitted, and the whole flight had not been agreed upon, the Polish air defense would simply not have found our plane.

[I am human]

Go back - to the construction battalion ...

[Reserve buildbat]

Do not be rude, boy

[shurik]

some parts of the armed forces of the USSR were already at war with other parts of the armed forces of the USSR in Transcaucasia

And here in more detail. (why bother nonsense?)

[evge-malyshev]

Unfortunately, this is not nonsense. The Azerbaijani and Armenian armies are not parts of the USSR Armed Forces ???

[alexmach]

No, not parts.

Never in the Soviet army were there any "Azerbaijani" and "Armenian" armies.

And the units of the Soviet army there did not take part in the hostilities.

[Gladius]

Tracking a single-engine piston aircraft is not so easy, this also applies to drones, which are also difficult to cope with!

[Koshak]

Quote: Gladius

Tracking a single-engine piston aircraft is not so easy, this also applies to drones, which are also difficult to cope with!

If the pilot had not submitted an application and had not coordinated the flight with the Poles, they would have intercepted him. And so they knew the route, the time, and waited in readiness to once again shit on Russia. All this is from the same series as the "doping scandal".

[4ekist]

I fully agree with Comrade Koshak. Definitely "+".

[Juborg]

It would be better if they caught Pokemon! People do not fly to sports competitions, but they intercept, and even threaten with prison. Strange people in a flawed state.

[Felix99]

They flew to intercept Pokemon, but failed, so they thought that Sesna would also be counted.

[Sasha_Sar]

I won't be surprised if they find "MELDONIUM" in the pilot's blood

[BOB044]

Riperbahn (3) RU Today, 07:56 AM New

It’s just not clear why the USSR Air Defense Forces failed to cope with Mathias Rust Cessna.

I think this is because the respected Riperbahn was not at that time the Minister of Defense of the USSR.

[desyatka]

because the generals were shifting responsibility onto each other, Gorbachev did not give the command to shoot down. Downed "cessna" and "glasnost" are not combined in a political sense.

[Simpsonian]

Just needed another ideological diversion,

Soviet air defense radars saw planes that took off and landed in California. Above the border, and even more so over Moscow, they will see a shell or ball from a bearing!

[igorka357]

About California, of course you didn’t just bend, but wrap it in a piggy .. well you know that ..))!

[I am human]

Gorbachev must answer for his actions, it is a pity that Yeltsin died before the trial ...

[Nitarius]

who said they couldn’t do it? ))) But the fact that he was also run in the USSR by you in the know? PURPOSE: it was necessary to remove the generals who interfere with the collapse of the USSR .. so they were set up by the KGB! so don’t break the bullshit

[Ryabtsev Grigory Evgenievich]

"... it was also run in the USSR ..."
Did you personally hold the refueling gun? If not, then do not quote the old ladies from the bench at the entrance.

[bald]

"The envoy of peace b ... I (Dzhigurda) sat right on the square near the Kremlin." The pilots were doing their job, so you shouldn't make fun of them. And the fact that two at once, so I think the difference in speed and one is difficult to write out pirouettes.

[Leto]

Quote: bald

And the fact that two at once, so I think the difference in speed and one difficult to write pirouettes.

Because they are on duty in pairs.

[ermak.sidorov]

Thank you!
Otherwise, I was already starting to get nervous about the competence of our community about the fact that no one really can explain the "second redundant" interceptor =)

[alexmach]

Everything is clear.

First, a Japanese Boeing was shot down, covering the intelligence.
Then they crap one's pants.
And they were afraid to shoot down Rust.

[Ryabtsev Grigory Evgenievich]

Where does the infa about "Japanese Boeing" come from? I am probably illiterate, but I always thought that Japan and South Korea are different countries.

[ferdiperdozzz]

Exactly :)
But they themselves are offended, those with the flag EE, when some of us confuse the entire tribaltics :)

But if we ignore the "Japan-Korea" error, then the version is correct - after the South Korean Boeing was framed for us, all the air defenses were sent to shoot down someone else.

[4ekist]

Yes, Rust could not be knocked down, just fly over him a couple of times in afterburner.

[alexmach]

Exactly :)
But they themselves are offended, those with the flag EE, when some of us confuse the entire tribaltics :)

I am excusable, I was only 2 years old when this happened.

[alexmach]

Really messed up :)

[I am human]

Here is such information from him (alexmach) ... But where is the other question ... He is not friendly with geography

[Signore Tomato]

Quote: alexmach

Everything is clear.

First, a Japanese Boeing was shot down, covering the intelligence.
Then they crap one's pants.
And they were afraid to shoot down Rust.

So it was.
Ssyklogorbachev first set up the entire air defense with that Boeing, then the same Ssyklogorbachev did not give the command to shoot down Rust.
In the case of Boeing, the air defense leadership did everything according to the instructions of the Soviet era, when the borders should be inviolable. And so it was. And for following the instructions, for fulfilling his Military Duty, Ssyklogorbachev severely punished the leadership of the Army and Air Defense.
And in the case of Rust, everyone was waiting for the go-ahead of Ssyklogorbachev, who did not receive it.
As a result, the hellish Marked Satan Ssyklogorbachev once again framed the Army and the whole country.

[Outsider V.]

Ssyklogorbachev first set up the entire air defense with that Boeing, then the same Ssyklogorbachev did not give the command to shoot down Rust.
<...>
For the performance of his Military Duty, Ssyklogorbachev severely punished the leadership of the Army and Air Defense

This fairy-tale story about the everywhere Existing Ssyklogorbachev does not converge: the epic with the downed Boeing lasted in September 1983, then the country was led by Andropov, who was already very ill by that time. Gorbachev was one of the members of the Politburo.

On the "cruel punishment of the leadership": for example, General of the Army Tretyak, who at that time was the commander of the Far Eastern Military District and participated in the chain of transmission of the order to shoot down, in 1986 became Deputy Defense Minister. Koldunov, who was at that time the Commander-in-Chief of the Air Defense Forces, was promoted to Chief Marshal of Aviation in 1984. But after Rust he was really removed.

[4ekist]

The story was different with the South Korean Boeing-747 KAL-007.

[evge-malyshev]

Quote: Riperbahn

It’s just not clear why the USSR Air Defense Forces failed to cope with Mathias Rust Cessna.

Is it really incomprehensible to you? We (Gorbachev and Co.) were ready to visit at least Red B-52, at least B-1B with nuclear filling on board on Red Square.

[K-50]

Quote: Riperbahn

It’s just not clear why the USSR Air Defense Forces failed to cope with Mathias Rust Cessna.

Walked at a height low enough for detection equipment. After the discovery, in connection with the beginning of the "catastrophe" and rapprochement with the West, none of those in power in the air defense and politics wanted to take on the beginning of a hypothetical conflict with new "friends".
Here, the flight was carried out according to an agreed plan, it was known who and where at what time flies. To carry out the interception in such conditions is a children's task.

[olegkrava]

Regarding the impossibility of detection, I will say this, the sesna is not much less than the L-29, and so, this old woman P-12 sees an elka at an altitude of 100m for 30km. More modern locators, which have a higher location of the antenna and the power and prema and transmission are much higher, saw it for 70 km. But about the interception, here is the "South Korean CAL syndrome".

[Alekseev]

Quote: Riperbahn

That's just not clear

It's hard to be so slow-witted ...
In the USSR, they did not give a command to intercept the engine operator, so the euphoria of friendship with the West began, and the recent provocation with the South Korean Boeing over Sakhalin also affected.
And then they "intercepted" the airplane in advance and legally next to the aerobatics competition. We did it, however!

[4ekist]

Dear, you do not know anything about the "epic" with M. Rust. Therefore, there is no need to evaluate the actions of air defense, especially if you do not understand anything about this.

[primers]

Because Matthias had prepared in advance for this flight and went at extremely low altitudes. And the aircraft radars, too, were not very "sighted" against the background of the earth.

[svp67]

At the same time, it is hardly worth assuming that the aircraft followed the competitions starting in Poland without prior coordination with their organizers.

Yes, but it was interesting whether the pilot was notified that before August 1, the sky over Poland, by decision of the Polish authorities, was simply replete with such restricted areas?

[mamont5]

Quote: Riperbahn

It’s just not clear why the USSR Air Defense Forces failed to cope with Mathias Rust Cessna.

The bosses were afraid to take responsibility, especially after the destruction of the South Korean Boeing.

[Simpsonian]

And after him, the humpback and banned shoot down passenger planes ...

[Ryabtsev Grigory Evgenievich]

I will not quote combat documents and orders that regulated combat work and actions of the air defense forces on duty in those years (I literally forgot it for more than 25 years), but their meaning was as follows: "fire does not open on passenger and sports aircraft."

[alstr]

I’ll clarify. In peacetime, the pursuit of air defense for any purpose opens only after confirmation from a higher command.
And Rust was led from the border, but there was no order to bring down. For this, by the way, the two paid and received the deadlines.

At our department, our curator said that after Rust there were several unscheduled inspections. In one, they nearly overwhelmed their plane, because he followed without an identifier. But without an order it was impossible to shoot. Therefore, they drove him on the sight for about 5 minutes until he turned on the identifier.

[I am human]

Gorbachev was supposed to pay, and those who complied with his order were punished

[I am human]

True, on such a "light-engine", as well as a passenger one, you can carry out a vigorous bomb or bring down a plane on vital objects ... It already happened!

[edmed]

In this muddy story with flight 007, by the way, when I heard the first association was with Bond, which James, only the lazy one didn’t give us cuffs, the pain passed but the memory remained, plus the "tagged" one with his mind, plus "let the bosses think, he has a head rounder. "
The bosses were afraid

[jktu66]

The bosses were afraid of the boss, from whom subordinates were often sent from the office with heart attacks in an ambulance. Samodur in power is a huge damage to the country.

[Andrey K]

Well, now the Polish Air Force "honor and respect" ...
To eat ... shameful, and all this is not a shame to voice ...

that the plane was heading to the city of Radom, where competitions in aviation acrobatics should be held

In fact, it turns out that they invited us to the competition and instead of providing a meeting with the host, we organized another provocation ...

[Moore]

Quote: Andrey K

In fact, it turns out that they invited us to the competition and instead of providing a meeting with the host, we organized another provocation ...

Well, yes, somehow.
You take the list of participants in the competition, from the application - the time and route of flight.
You declare to yourself a bunch of restricted areas along the flight route, preparing fighters ahead of time.
You scream to the whole world about another aggressive trick of Mordor.
Profit.

[I am human]

But Vesnina and Makarova are not the same provocation ... Just mongrel carry out orders from Fashington

[rotmistr60]

two F-16 fighters of the country's air force “intercepted a Russian light-engine training aircraft

A show-off seemed to have intercepted a strategic bomber with a nuclear weapon on board. They deliberately created the situation and "distinguished themselves" before NATO.

[sdc_alex]

Well, this is an indisputable victory of the Polish Air Force over all Russian air forces

D.B.

[semuel]

Two fighters may be overkill, but if you break it, then you need to intercept it unequivocally. I hope our air defense does not make discounts on lightweight.

[rotmistr60]

but if violated

But does it not surprise you that the plane flew to the competition and naturally had permission to fly? Or do you think that our air defenses passed through our border consciously?

[I am human]

This is not surprising, they intercept everything in Israel.

[4ekist]

If our light motor pilot has violated something (deviated from the flight route, etc.), there are air traffic controls for this. Why didn't they work? It's just that the Poles decided to show their "professionalism", d @ bily.

[beer-youk]

Why only two? Why not all NATO air forces? This is a real threat! They don’t respect us at all ...

[Leto]

Quote: beer-youk

Why only two? Why not all NATO air forces? This is a real threat! They don’t respect us at all ...

Because the duty line is usually two aircraft. We are also intercepted by a couple, and it doesn’t matter what, a bomber, a scout or a corn barn.

[Masya masya]

"two F-16 fighters of the country's Air Force" intercepted a Russian light trainer aircraft ", stunned! I wonder how many years they will be proud of this "feat" ... maybe they will write more in the annals of Poland?

[I am human]

Why annals with two H are not gay-European

[soroKING]

and his pilot to the police station
probably showed indecent gestures

[Mountain shooter]

It is a pity that they did not read the following: "One fighter was shot down by the return fire, the second one damaged, after which it went into low-earth orbit, made two orbits and landed in a given area ".
And "on business" - well, cool, as many orders are worthy, won.

[Funnels]

They probably burned more kerosene. What is this airplane worth In general, of course, a victory.
P.S. And for some reason, the Washington Regional Committee has not yet expressed concern. Strange.

[lilian]

But is Russia intercepting violators with the help of paragliders? Why, as if the boys are yorn? From the title itself already sick.
We must be fair, not only patriots.

[Taygerus]

it’s not clear what the hell the pilot, without prior agreement for the mound, was competing for competition, and the Poles trumpeted the whole world as if the UFO had landed, aces damn

[kirieeleyson]

the history of the century, why one flight plan was not agreed upon, while others sent interceptors) If ours were on the Su-27 and it would have accompanied the Mig-31BM troika looming without transponders, we would have put it in our pants until ours reached Lisbon.

[your1970]

Normal NATO military are afraid of any of our aircraft, you never know ....
Remember, there was a story how our plane fluttered something and the crew ejected. And then it leveled off and flew to Belgium WITHOUT the crew ... And here the pilot, he could spin them easily, missiles on it to no purpose, only guns + speed difference .. Let they are glad that they didn’t get into the ground (as PO-2 did) ..

[cost 75]

Yes, he succumbed.

[Retvizan 8]

Now in Poland after such a "peremogi" they will thump for a week!

[Nevsky_ZU]

Quote: Retvizan 8

Now in Poland after such a "peremogi" they will thump for a week!

For me, the Poles are a bit of a mystery. How did they manage to, though partially, but suppress their rural mentality? Those Ukrainians, only in profile.

[BOB044]

And the lads fellows with two F-16 fighters boldly intercepted and planted an easy motor plane. Do not be afraid that he could retaliate against them. Well done, heroes with a capital letter. Now this case will go down in history and textbooks of Polish military universities and will teach him , the courage of young pilots. Hold me five, otherwise I op ...

[Leto]

Quote: BOB044

Hold me five and then I op ..

Yes you already ...

Quote: BOB044

Well done, heroes with a capital letter.

The fighter on duty was detained by the intruder; there is nothing heroic, but there are also reasons for laughter. You should have shot him down?

[1536]

It's time to make transformers from our aircraft. Such a plane flies to the adjacent territory if it is met peacefully, flies to itself and flies. Well, if the bandits attacked in the form of Polish fighter pilots, it turns, for example, into the MiG-31, and there are no bandits.
In general, the air defense of this Polyandia, and for one NATO, was well checked.

[Zord3375]

What if a "nuclear warhead" in the engine))))

[samoletil18]

Quote: Zord3375

What if a "nuclear warhead" in the engine))))

What if our pilot from the North Caucasus or another regina with a population professing Islam? Accurately accused of having links with ISIS (a banned terrorist organization in Russia).

[Kirill750]

Do we have a common border with the psheks? and why Russian and not Belarusian Lithuanian or hohlozhop It jumped across all borders and some Pshek intercepted him yes heroes No one else saw Something does not grow together

[Leto]

Quote: Cyril750

Do we have a common border with the psheks?

Horror ... another victim of the exam ...
For the victims of "rasiiskava abrazavaniya": the land border between Poland and Russia is more than 200 km.

[Koshak]

Quote: Cyril750

Do we have a common border with the psheks? and why Russian and not Belarusian Lithuanian or hohlozhop It jumped across all borders and some Pshek intercepted him yes heroes No one else saw Something does not grow together

Have your geography lessons been canceled?

[AllXVahhaB]

Quote: Koshak

Have your geography lessons been canceled?

And not only geography ... Well, "not wedОit becomes "he has something

[HUMAN OWNER 1]

How do you think it reached Kaliningrad? And he didn’t understand the village of Sadkuv, he was not on the way to Krakow at all. Apparently, our flyer still flew around the no-fly zones.

[prior]

The "hospitality" of the Poles is off the charts.
It is necessary, as grandfather Krylov taught, to answer "good".
More than half a million lives of Soviet soldiers died liberating Poland.
Pshek has a short memory ... But we remember!

[Mestny]

Quote: Riperbahn

It’s just not clear why the USSR Air Defense Forces failed to cope with Mathias Rust Cessna.

If something = it is not clear - ask questions.
In this case, I recommend asking the leadership of the USSR Air Force.
I remind you that we now live in a slightly different country.
But you can already express a misunderstanding - blurt out at least something, just to bite.

[Lekov L]

If something = it is not clear - ask questions.
In this case, I recommend asking the leadership of the USSR Air Force.

Or members of the forum.
Moreover, those who served at that time in the air defense system were missing.
And we will not quote orders. And so we know. From participants and eyewitnesses.
Best regards

[I am human]

It is necessary to remove the Air Defense Forces, and the USSR with a stretch, since under Gorbachev there was no longer a USSR, but there was a country that fulfilled Fashingon’s orders

[samoletil18]

Is this really revenge for non-flying weather in Smolensk six years ago?

[Banishing liberoids]

Flat pilots will definitely be awarded — each will be given three buckets of bitten apples!

[Kamchatsky]

One thing I can’t understand - why didn’t he run away from the Poles? He can tumble around his own ears, but in 5 seconds they can bother their heads!

[Simpsonian]

so that he won’t be canceled by the Schengen, or maybe they paid in advance for this the circus and in general there is still a chance to be shot down and die, and who is it hunting for?

[dima-fesko]

Interestingly, if our pilot showed aerobatics, the F-16 could land it, or in a fleeting pursuit (maneuvers - so to speak)) flew into the territory of, say, Belarus or the Kaliningrad region?

[INTA_VEGA]

F-16, if they did, they just flew past him. Designated, so to speak.
If our pilot showed aerobatics, they would stand on a big circle and watch him from the side. And all the requirements for landing - on the radio from the dispatcher.

[Bort radist]

From July 24 to August 1, Poland introduced restrictions on small aircraft flights due to the holding of World Catholic Youth Days with the participation of the Pope. Within a radius of 100 kilometers from Krakow and the surrounding area, entertainment and training flights are prohibited. Under the ban also drones.https://lenta.ru/news/2016/08/01/poland
Do not look for the background as usual mess. The doping story taught nothing. Generally a strange situation. They issued a permission to fly, just because you can’t fly across the border, without the permission of dispatchers and the military, they will not be allowed to leave our area of ​​responsibility until there is permission to cross the border with the Poles. So that mess + provocation from the Polish side. Knowing about the ban, they let in, and then intercepted.

[Simpsonian]

and he probably flew there without coordination with the dispatchers? don't make me laugh with "doping" either ...

[Koshak]

Quote: Simpsonian

and he probably flew there without coordination with the dispatchers? don't make me laugh with "doping" either ...

That you do not make laugh. Crossing the border on an airplane is not a bike to drive to a neighboring village. How could he fly without coordination? It would not even be ours missed. The obvious provocation of psheks.

[vasilev]

To intercept this "mosquito" fighters need to fly at its speed. Do the Poles have F-16 fighters flying at the speed of a "Zaporozhets"?

[INTA_VEGA]

You take "interception" too literally. They just rushed past, and all the landing commands from the controller.

[Stinger]

But what about NATO? The Poles are exhausted, but at least something. Aggressor overslept. Missile defense did not alert. Nuclear danger not declared. Even rusty tanks did not start. (Probably they are with the batteries removed). Carriers froze in ecstasy from such aggression. The Poles didn’t even go to Kaliningrad for cigarettes, but at least something for them.

[Simpsonian]

well, they all the same proved to be "more ready" than the British who found and escorted a Russian submarine with a tow in the water

[vik669]

Quote: Nevsky_ZU

Now in Poland after such a "peremogi" they will thump for a week!

After Cessna Mathias Rust, some still thump!

[Simpsonian]

simply "the best German of the year" missed his Matias Rust ...

[avg-mgn]

Quote: Nitarius

who said they couldn’t do it? ))) but the fact that it in the USSR you also run the course? PURPOSE: it was necessary to remove the generals who interfere with the collapse of the USSR .. so they were set up by the KGB! so don’t break the bullshit

a reference please, YouTube 2014 does not offer!

[sabakina]

Excuse me, do you have a reference about the "gas station"? Or do you think that the Cessna flew on the pilot's urine?

[Ryabtsev Grigory Evgenievich]

Before departure, I refueled "under the traffic jam", that's enough.

[sabakina]

Thought pilot after landing:
- "After all, Shoigu told me, take the TU-160, and the airplane in the bomb bays. No, I decided to show off" ...

On the air of the Polish TV channel TVP

Oh, the Poles, the Poles ... But once upon a time there was:

[Mikhail m]

It would be interesting to hear the dispatchers who drove this plane. Or did he have only intelligence left from the means of communication?

[RUSIVAN]

How two Polish Air Force fighters with a light-engine aircraft managed
Well done Polish Air Force, planted a maize without their own losses, even ...

[Romin]

I watched on a sawed-out glade in 2009 in the area of ​​the village of Begunitsy of the Volosovsky district at an altitude of 20 meters above the tops of fir trees, turned and went back towards Estonia UAV. The UAV had three keels down and an engine with a push screw at the rear, the color is gray and the markings are white. Identified as a Traitor. There was no connection with myself, and it is not clear where to call? To the border with Estonia from this place 150 kilometers in a straight line.
I have not heard anything about his interception.
Previously, in the 90s, they drove the MIG-27 over the villages, more than once saw how clearly they went to intercept the fast and the furious towards the border, as soon as in 2000 they laid a highway over this area for civilian aviation at medium and high echelons, the activity of our Air Force stopped that area.
To detect and identify a UAV or a light-engine aircraft at a flight speed of 120-150 km / h above the tops of trees + the terrain and the radio horizon is complicated.
And raising a fighter jet to intercept is not justified.
Our Air Force lacks in the border zone, and not only in it, an aircraft of the Tucano type. Which could fulfill the function of intercepting UAVs and light-engine aircraft, helicopters. And could be used as a light attack aircraft on small RDGs.
Moreover, the MO has a Yak-152. We were in a reserve SU-29 and SU-31
Why not expand its application

[Ryabtsev Grigory Evgenievich]

I looked at the map of Poland and a bunch of questions appeared:
1. If flights are prohibited within a radius of 100 km from Krakow, then what does Radom have to do with which from Krakow about 170 - 200 km?
2. What the hell was this board driven to land in the Sadkow area, which is two hundred (at least!) Km WEST from the Krakow-Radom line? Did a light motor fly from Germany?
3. If he flew from the eastern border, where did they begin to intercept him? Did he fly a third of the country uncontrollably? And if it’s near the border, then how did the interceptors have enough kerosene to escort him to Sadkuv and not crash next to him from the engine stopping. The flight speeds of the F-16 and the light motor differ significantly, and fuel consumption at this speed, too.
Well, things like that mathematically and geographically. Something the apple-eaters muddied.

[sgapich]

The pilot has already been released.

https://rg.ru/2016/08/01/zaderzhannyj-v-polshe-pilot-rossijskogo-samoleta-otpush
chen.html

[Alex von Dorn]

If we take into account the fact that the pilot has already been released, then we can conclude about the next piaction of their Air Force, who were waiting for this plane, and another muck that Russia did. Small but disgusting.

[Ryabtsev Grigory Evgenievich]

Here is a madhouse with a gigantic bias! It turns out that he flew from Krakow to Radom. In general, not a damn thing to understand! How did his Krakow dispatchers (with a flight ban) release? Anarchy smokes nervously on the sidelines!

[Alex_Tug]

It turns out that he flew from Krakow to Radom. In general, not a damn thing to understand! How did his Krakow dispatchers (with a flight ban) release? Anarchy smokes nervously on the sidelines!

As I understand it, he did not take off from the Krakow airport. And from some local airdrome (a la aero club, in which all the equipment is a radio station with a call sign). And horseradish fussed in the closed zone - the question.

[Alex_Tug]

Quote: Koshak

Quote: Gladius

Tracking a single-engine piston aircraft is not so easy, this also applies to drones, which are also difficult to cope with!

If the pilot had not submitted an application and had not coordinated the flight with the Poles, they would have intercepted him. And so they knew the route, the time, and waited in readiness to once again shit on Russia. All this is from the same series as the "doping scandal".

Quietly chizeyu from the author of the article. I pulled a couple of quotes from the original news.
- The pilot most likely filed a request for a flight in the direction of Krakow. Otherwise, why didn’t the Russian air defense react?
- The pilot was again refused by the Poles. The Krakow area has been declared an "unmanned zone". (it seems until August 4, some events are taking place there)
- The result, intercepted and imprisoned. Maybe with a calm soul like Rust sit in a cell. Since myself. (IMHO everything, you can clarify the full Old)

[oapvokin]

No need to slander about the pilots. Yasam intercepted a low-flying target on the Su15. A low-speed target, whose speed is lower than my landing, is quite difficult. So well done pilots and no matter what nationality they are

[Cobalt m]

Well done. They stopped the attack of the aggressor. Hurray Polish Air Force. The next step will be an attack on paper airplanes.

[Disorder]

There was no interception. A landing command arrived, and he sat down.

[askort154]

The aircraft went according to the previously agreed international flight plan (Flit plan), without which it would not be released into flight. Naturally, the flight plan was also agreed with Poland. If the plane went according to plan, then the Poles clearly committed a provocation.

[Alex_Tug]

The flight went according to the previously agreed international flight plan (Flit plan)

What the hell flight plans for light aircraft? I contacted the zone manager and said I was flying there. They will tell the pilot the control time for the next communication with the dispatcher.

[chujwamwzopu]

You Russians understand that there was an unmanned zone 100 km from Krakow because of the World Youth Days, and that your pilot was invited to some events, but in the city of Radom - 250 km from Krakow, which apparently "unintentionally" enticed Radom ...

That's where Radom (north) is where Krakow (south)

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR7_i0DQBd7dKuDBDh10gksRsFM
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If, as you say, the pilot is so well informed in everything, it is strange that he did not know about the unmanned zone, where he should not be at all and why he should fly further south, because his events are in the north of this place.

[Alex_Tug]

You Russians understand that 100 km from Krakow there was an unmanned zone

Was, or is there still? It seems to read until August 4.

[chujwamwzopu]

All air traffic communications are published on the website - Polish Air Navigation Services Agency (PANSA)

http://www.pansa.pl/?lang=_pl&opis=wiecej&id_wyslane=1154

According to their statements, the unmanned zone was from 25.07 to 01.08.

Everything is clear and understandable - to ban is to ban and the Polish Air Force had every right to take the necessary measures to ensure the ban.

[chujwamwzopu]

What is also known is a pilot flying from the Czech Republic. They say that the flight was not previously announced in PANSA (which is all the same - I wouldn’t get a pass anyway), the pilot’s radio was turned off - these are the words of the World Cup press secretary for airplane acrobatics.

[alexmach]

You Poles don’t understand that it’s impossible to inflame relations to infinity, that sooner or later you will overreact. Before World War II played out? Didn’t learn anything?

[chujwamwzopu]

Yes, we taught, everyone now thinks that at 39 we had to go to the USSR with Germany

[seveddi]

Yeah, Pshekheroi and speak Nekuy! They will now celebrate every year on this day!

[Naladchik]

Pokémon are weird guys, sometimes their memory is erased. It’s high time to move the monument to Ivan Susanin to Katyn. And calmly wait for the next fourth Katyn.

[realist]

the situation with the interception in Poland, to put it mildly, is strange, the plane could not fly without the appropriate permits, with rust, it is also not clear how he did everything so cunningly, and got into the jet (there were training flights, and he got up well over the piece of iron, and in general he had no problems with navigation), obviously either there was a command for provocation or his "friends" prepared him very well.

[Rusfaner]

Quote: 4ekist

Yes, Rust could not be knocked down, just fly over him a couple of times in afterburner.

There is no need for it. Better, with a sweet feeling of aviation sadism, to cross the course and go forward with a sweeping snake, releasing all wing mechanics and at full throttle ...

[Kir1984]

if the pilot had to force them into close maneuver combat, they would have gotten scared and flown away.

[Krasniy_lis]

I'll just leave this here

[Volzhanin]

Another confirmation that the Psheks are an underdeveloped under-donation of the lying, corrupt Judo-Slavs.
Throughout their entire history, “from start to finish” they were just someone’s sixes. Hence the slave mentality and feeling of inferiority.

[shosha]

Two bullies for one baby. To intercept one sports airplane, two fighters are needed, but how many will they need to intercept one of our fighters?

[jovanni]

Quote: Bath

frenzied muzzle definitely overcame, met a Pole in Russia

For what? The pilots simply did their job properly.

[alexmach]

When they do their job regularly, they don’t blow all the trumpets about yet another successful repulse of Russian aggression.

[Friends]

Quote: captain

the plane was stupidly overlooked, they couldn’t even intercept it and land it. Our air defense at that time looked very dull, to say the least rude.

This old tale is told by US propagandists... They are supposed to - they are at work.

We are not in kindergarten to believe in such fairy tales...

Quote: non-primary

Rust could have been shot down more than once, but no one dared to give the order! Syndrome 1983!

About 15 years ago I read that after the provocation with the Korean Boeing, the leadership of the USSR (the author referred to Andropov) forbade shooting down intruder civilian aircraft. Therefore, Rust was simply led, waiting for a command from Moscow.

There is an opinion that the provocation with Rust was prepared specifically in order to remove unwanted officers and officials of the Ministry of Defense from the army. Which is what was done.

As you know, Gorbachev and his friends (love your friends - Shevardnadze, Yakovlev and others) were preparing to sell the state completely and, apparently, decided to play it safe.


About the Poles. They found one more reason to remember Russian aggression, which they have been waiting for so long. People are already unbearable...

Judging by the headlines in the Ukrainian media, one might think that the brave Poles intercepted a strategic bomber...

Quote: Felix99

They flew to intercept Pokemon, but failed, so they thought that Sesna would also be counted.

This version also cannot be ruled out...

[paaash]

Eh.. when will the time come back when all these mongrels like Poland and the Baltic states will start yapping at us!!!

[Prisoner]

They did intercept, and Rust landed on Red Square. There is no reason for ridicule, the Poles completed their task.

[Gost171]

I’ll try. Boeing, 83 years old, get into Korea and reach Kamchatka,while, in a word, simply, brazenly. There is no need to be sad. Rust, another fruit, flew on a Tsesna, at what altitude? If low, who flew it? , well, let’s say 180m, and the interceptor at this altitude, at what speed does it go? It seems they led him visually, but why didn’t they fail, the question is “of course interesting.” The handsome Poles, if they continue to trample on like this, - 220 F-50s against a sports one, well, what can you say, don’t put your finger in your mouth.

[Pushkar]

In this case, the flight request was processed incorrectly. The Polish air defenses worked correctly, the misunderstanding was corrected, and the pilot flew on with his plane. In the case of Rust, the intimidated and politicized military-ministerial officials were simply afraid to make any decision. Responsibility, you understand.