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Turkish authorities closed border crossing, which was used by militants of the "Free Syrian Army"

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Turkish border guards closed the Bab Al-Khawa junction, which the militants of the Free Syrian Army used to get to Turkey, reports Look with reference to Deutsche Wirtschafts Nachrichten.


Turkish authorities closed border crossing, which was used by militants of the "Free Syrian Army"


This step shows that the leadership of Turkey "went over to the side of Russia in the Syrian conflict," the German edition notes.

Behind such an abrupt change of course “stands the desire of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan to come to an agreement with Syrian leader Bashar Assad,” the article says.

“Our main and permanent goal is to establish good relations with Syria, Iraq and all neighboring states in the Mediterranean and Black Seas”,
said Turkish Prime Minister Binali Yıldırım,

Meanwhile, according to Turkish sources, “lately, representatives of Ankara and Damascus have repeatedly met.” The role of intermediaries in these negotiations is played by Moscow and Tehran.

“Turkey’s new strategy has led to the fact that militants in Aleppo now have no chance to escape from the strikes of Syrian and Russian troops. Immediately before the coup, President Erdogan unexpectedly reconciled with Russia and Israel. Whether this abrupt change in course was one of the reasons for the military coup, is, however, unclear, " - concludes the edition.
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  1. avvg
    avvg 31 July 2016 09: 41
    +8
    At the end, the Turks realized who is friend, who is the enemy and who should be dealt with.
    1. captain
      captain 31 July 2016 09: 47
      +41
      As we say in Russia; close neighbor, better distant relatives. And is there one more: there is no greater disaster than bad neighbors.
      1. INVESTOR
        INVESTOR 31 July 2016 11: 01
        +35
        Putin is great, I don’t remember literally how it sounds, but something in this spirit "drag enemies into neutrals, neutrals into friends, etc. A classic of the genre, the Supreme in his path. fellow
        1. Lukich
          Lukich 31 July 2016 11: 18
          +57
          Quote: INVESTOR
          Putin is great, I don’t remember literally how it sounds, but something in this spirit "drag enemies into neutrals, neutrals into friends, etc. A classic of the genre, the Supreme in his path.

          Yes, 2 weeks ago, the site salivated that the GDP was passed for tomatoes))))) they didn’t give a word, to say that everything is not so simple and we don’t know ALL the subtleties. here slowly pops up
          1. Karlovar
            Karlovar 31 July 2016 13: 07
            +23
            Ludy is weak on the topic of putinsil-putins ... When they do not understand the moves, they turn them in and give them away, like they don’t use emotions. And this trend doesn’t eat ... Emotions are bred mainly for emotion!
            1. bk316
              bk316 1 August 2016 17: 53
              +5
              Quote: Karlovar
              Ludi is weak on the subject of putinsil-putinsal

              People are generally weak on the topic of what they don’t understand.
              It’s weak for most people to say: I don’t understand, let's wait and see.
          2. Drzed
            Drzed 31 July 2016 21: 02
            +1
            approaching the ninth of August!
        2. twviewer
          twviewer 31 July 2016 13: 52
          +4
          Quote: INVESTOR
          Putin well done

          What does this follow from? Well, the Turks closed the passage, but they did it during the coup so that the punks with guns wouldn’t run there, when and if they didn’t open again (especially for the militants) then they would sing hallelujah. I even heard a version about the emerging triangle Russia Israel Turkey, but wait and see.
          1. fennekRUS
            fennekRUS 1 August 2016 14: 40
            +1
            Quote: twviewer
            triangle Russia Israel Turkey

            Germans need to be pulled up, only "grandmother" to someone more adequate to change
      2. Aleksander
        Aleksander 31 July 2016 11: 57
        +5
        Quote: captain
        As we say in Russia; close neighbor, better distant relatives. And is there one more: there is no greater disaster than bad neighbors


        There is another: "Neighbors are not chosen." And the Turks-neighbors have ALWAYS been enemies and competitors of Russia, and it is necessary to proceed from this indisputable fact, no matter how at times the paths of the two countries coincide.
        1. Karlovar
          Karlovar 31 July 2016 13: 10
          +10
          Offer Turkey declare war? Who could have ALWAYS been enemies? -Germans, vaults, Poles, French, Japanese ... He will declare war on everyone ???
          1. Drzed
            Drzed 31 July 2016 21: 06
            -6
            oh, fso! learn Russian!
    2. Gladius
      Gladius 31 July 2016 09: 54
      +40
      Erdogan plays his game and he will not be any ally. The Turks have always been their own allies, even in NATO they have bent their line. My words are Turkey’s capture of northern Cyprus and the creation of the Republic of Northern Cyprus on the island, which only one recognized in the world country. Turkey then, in the early 70s, was not afraid to open conflict with Greece, a NATO member country, like Turkey itself.
      1. co-creator
        co-creator 31 July 2016 10: 22
        +13
        Quote: Gladius
        Turkey’s capture of northern Cyprus and the creation of the island of the Republic of Northern Cyprus, which only one country recognized in the world

        So the Greeks wanted all the Turks to be expelled from the island and began to do so.

        He plays his own, we his own. At this stage, our game won and Erdogan had to make concessions to sit in the chair.
        1. rpek32
          rpek32 31 July 2016 10: 24
          +19
          since when is blocking militants "going over to the side of Russia"?

          Oh Man, look what clowns these journalists are. hand face
        2. Gladius
          Gladius 31 July 2016 10: 29
          +5
          Quotation: blooded man
          Quote: Gladius
          Turkey’s capture of northern Cyprus and the creation of the island of the Republic of Northern Cyprus, which only one country recognized in the world

          So the Greeks wanted all the Turks to be expelled from the island and began to do so.

          He plays his own, we his own. At this stage, our game won and Erdogan had to make concessions to sit in the chair.

          Now, at the moment, the chair under the main Turk is rocking a little, he will make concessions, but not significant ones. He will step back a step to take two steps forward.
          And where did you get info that the Greeks tried to expel all the Turks from Cyprus, I never had such information, it all started with an attempt by the regime of "black colonels" in Greece to annex the island to mainland Greece.
          1. co-creator
            co-creator 31 July 2016 10: 40
            +6
            Quote: Gladius
            He will step back to take two steps forward.

            Well, the flag in his hands. Today ours has taken a point.

            Quote: Gladius
            And where did you get info that the Greeks tried to expel all the Turks from Cyprus, I never had such information, it all started with an attempt by the regime of "black colonels" in Greece to annex the island to mainland Greece

            So these colonels were nationalists and slogans that the Turks needed to be driven to the neck in Cyprus sounded everywhere. I’m not so on the side of the Turks, but I understand why they took this step. Quite possibly. that their angles pushed to this.
            1. Gladius
              Gladius 31 July 2016 10: 55
              0
              Quotation: blooded man
              Quote: Gladius
              He will step back to take two steps forward.

              Well, the flag in his hands. Today ours has taken a point.

              Quote: Gladius
              And where did you get info that the Greeks tried to expel all the Turks from Cyprus, I never had such information, it all started with an attempt by the regime of "black colonels" in Greece to annex the island to mainland Greece

              So these colonels were nationalists and slogans that the Turks needed to be driven to the neck in Cyprus sounded everywhere. I’m not so on the side of the Turks, but I understand why they took this step. Quite possibly. that their angles pushed to this.

              Dear, the slogans are different, but here is the implementation-? If we are guided by the slogans, then our former piedmier-minister in April of this year blurted out from a near mind that Armenia has nuclear weapons laughing .That, the Turks or Azerbaijanis should have believed him and started the nuclear "disarmament" of Armenia smile .
              And your Zhirinovsky, a man of considerable rank in Russia, from time to time declares this belay!!
              1. co-creator
                co-creator 31 July 2016 11: 08
                +4
                Quote: Gladius
                Dear, slogans are different, but the implementation is? If we are guided by the slogans, our former Piemeri-Minister in April of this year blurted out from his close mind that Armenia has nuclear weapons. That the Turks or Azerbaijanis should have believed him and started the nuclear "disarmament" of Armenia.
                And your Zhirinovsky, a man of considerable rank in Russia, from time to time declares this !!

                Slogans slogans strife. It’s one thing when they yelled in Ukraine that the fleet from Sevas should be driven to the neck and another thing when people came to power who yelled precisely and have the ability to do it 100%. Here, as they say, the difference is significant.
                Believe me, if tomorrow Zhirik becomes president, then his words will have different weight.
                1. Gladius
                  Gladius 31 July 2016 11: 14
                  0
                  God forbid, God forbid, Zhirinovsky will come to power in Russia (a punch in my tongue for such words) - it will not seem to anyone!
              2. novobranets
                novobranets 31 July 2016 11: 08
                +1
                Quote: Gladius
                And your Zhirinovsky, a man of considerable rank in Russia, from time to time declares this

            2. alexmach
              alexmach 31 July 2016 11: 30
              +1
              Yeah, this looks especially funny when you have an English base in Cyprus. I suppose they were behind the base and were afraid that the Greeks would ask them from there ..
              1. co-creator
                co-creator 31 July 2016 11: 52
                +2
                It is clear that the Angles of the Turks admonished and otmazyvat in NATO. Only the Greeks did not need to talk, but quietly crank everything and everything. .
            3. Karlovar
              Karlovar 31 July 2016 13: 21
              0
              Who played asi understands ... a bribe about us ...
            4. Drzed
              Drzed 31 July 2016 21: 11
              -2
              The Junta is a right-wing military dictatorship in Greece in 1967-1974, led by Georgios Papadopoulos (1967-1973) and Dimitrios Ioannidis (1973-1974).
              The junta came to power under the pretext of combating the “communal-anarchist” danger, its political doctrine was based on the principles of corporatism. The junta leaders, as a rule, came from poor areas and disliked the "overly liberal" views of residents of large cities, so by "communist danger" they understood everything that did not fit into the framework of their traditional ideas - for example, Western rock music. Extensive political repression with torture was carried out. In international relations, the regime’s rule has led to a deterioration in relations with Western countries in Greece, and especially with the already strained relations with Turkey’s long-standing geopolitical rival. In 1967, after an unsuccessful monarchist counter-coup, the junta ousted the king from power and appointed the regent, General Georgios Zoytakis, proclaimed the republic in 1972 (the head of the junta, Georgios Papadopoulos, became president, and after his removal, Fedon Gizikis). In 1974, after the failure of the coup in Cyprus, the junta was removed from power by a meeting of the oldest Greek politicians under the formal chairmanship of Gizikis. The junta, with the exception of Gizikis, was put on trial and sentenced to death, which was later replaced by life imprisonment.
              1. parkello
                parkello 1 August 2016 02: 16
                +5
                rave. from the beginning to the end. Delirium of a gray mare sewn with white thread. everything that was good was created in Greece everything was created under G. Papadopoulo. he built roads, aerodromes, ports, railway stations and electricity transmission lines. under him, permission was issued to build a house only on the condition that the house had a sewage system and water supply, he forgave all debts to the agrarians and began their life from scratch. under him there was an economic growth and all the others who came after him plundered and sold the whole country. therefore Papadopoulos did not even want to get out of prison. he just spat in their faces. and I, too, spit in their faces, to all these false democrats and "ponte left" like this idiot Al.Tsipras. Colonels were right about them. it was not enough for them. but it was necessary, as in the USSR in 1937, to shoot and expel.
          2. Karlovar
            Karlovar 31 July 2016 13: 20
            +2
            Yes, the conflict between the Armenians and Azerbaijanis (Turks) is beyond reason! Naked emotions! But emotion is not brought to good in politics! In the Game of Thrones, remember how Rampsey bred Stark-Bastard on an emotion ... and his army, a classic of Zanr, led his army to this emotion!
        3. INVESTOR
          INVESTOR 31 July 2016 10: 58
          0
          Quotation: blooded man
          So the Greeks wanted all the Turks to be expelled from the island and began to do so.



          And they would do it right.
        4. parkello
          parkello 1 August 2016 02: 07
          +3
          if the Greeks wanted to drive the Turks out of Cyprus, we would just cut them out or drown them, as they did. the Greeks are to blame for allowing a military coup in the country and anti-Greeks such as K. Karamanlis and A. Papandreu came to power. it Karamanlis said that Cyprus is far away. under G. Papadopulo none of these mongrel could blather. Papandreou generally fled to America and lived in fear. that he would be killed as well as with Trotsky under Stalin. and the Turks sat in their places. but the fact that Greece lost half of Cyprus is not only to blame for the Greeks. there are many who are involved. the same British and Americans. Well, nothing, we will also select Cyprus and Zmirni (Izmir) and Anatolia (Antalya) and Constantinople.
        5. Alex777
          Alex777 1 August 2016 09: 28
          +1
          Quotation: blooded man
          Quote: Gladius
          Turkey’s capture of northern Cyprus and the creation of the island of the Republic of Northern Cyprus, which only one country recognized in the world

          So the Greeks wanted all the Turks to be expelled from the island and began to do so.
          He plays his own, we his own. At this stage, our game won and Erdogan had to make concessions to sit in the chair.

          Everything flows, everything changes. So Erdogan has changed. Who, a couple of months ago, could have suggested that the border could be closed?
          The American general did not hesitate to express "concern" that the established contacts with the Turkish military were under threat. And Erdogan, in response, ranked him among the conspirators. Such is the current alignment.
          It is clear that no one will take his word for him, and in relations with Erdogan everything will be prepaid, but without Turkey, peace in Syria cannot be established. And we need him badly. A unique example may turn out. Attractive to the whole world.
      2. Berkut24
        Berkut24 31 July 2016 12: 50
        +1
        Erdogan plays his game within the framework of the space that other players provide him. This is demonstrated by the situation in Europe, which lives by its dogmas in a parallel space and therefore loses to the more real calculations of the Sultan and this is demonstrated by the situation in Syria, where Erdogan merges Russia, which knows how to count better than Turkey.
        The shitty thing about the soul of the State Department, which, as it turns out, has completely forgotten how and after the first bold actions starts to rush about without understanding what to do next.
      3. Karlovar
        Karlovar 31 July 2016 13: 12
        +4
        All pozti countries of the world play their game, which is normal. The truth is eating sister countries, playing tsuzuyu game ....
      4. Dam
        Dam 31 July 2016 22: 49
        0
        So what? While it is beneficial for us that they do not climb into Syria, weaken their army and quarrel with P. Hindustan. So we support the neighbors, as they us in the 90s
      5. Zulu_S
        Zulu_S 31 July 2016 23: 22
        +1
        Quote: Gladius
        Erdogan plays his game and he will not be any ally. The Turks have always been their own allies

        Any country, and Russia in the first place, must observe its own interests. Today is the day of one of the two allies of Russia - the Navy. Happy holiday, friends.
    3. siberalt
      siberalt 31 July 2016 09: 54
      +9
      Why not. The blockade in Turkey of NATO bases and the overlap of the transition for the US fosterlings already fit into some logic.
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 31 July 2016 10: 03
        +7
        This step shows that the leadership of Turkey "went over to the side of Russia in the Syrian conflict," the German edition notes.
        But the Germans are interested in this conflict for whom? Here's a simple and not modest question for the Germans.
        I repeat, in connection with recent events, I really want to see what will happen after the meeting between Putin and Erdogan.
        1. gg.na
          gg.na 31 July 2016 10: 08
          +1
          Quote: Observer2014
          I really want to see what will happen after the meeting between Putin and Erdogan.

          good I also wonder damn what what will be!!!
          1. samoletil18
            samoletil18 31 July 2016 10: 22
            0
            Quote: gg.na
            Quote: Observer2014
            I really want to see what will happen after the meeting between Putin and Erdogan.

            good I also wonder damn what what will be!!!

            Here you need to at least survive. Take care of yourself. yes
            1. Observer2014
              Observer2014 31 July 2016 11: 05
              +3
              samoletil18
              Here you need to at least survive. Take care of yourself.
              From whom? From you? bully
              1. samoletil18
                samoletil18 31 July 2016 13: 04
                +2
                What is from me? I had in mind a healthy lifestyle. And I, for example, try: for 30 years I quit smoking hi
                Although, somehow yes. I apologize, my previous comment looks twofold. negative. Put a minus or something ... Or swipe in a personal. request
                1. Observer2014
                  Observer2014 1 August 2016 10: 15
                  +3
                  samoletil18
                  hi Cursing is not our method! laughing It is full of already suitable words. It’s not good that we speak and write in Latin. For example, let them try to translate in Europe: -It is very beautiful. laughing
                  p / s And at the expense of grievances so that offended bapcons fall laughing And I don’t even know how to buy cigarettes in a store. For I have never held in my hands in my whole life. This vice completely passed me by hi
                  1. samoletil18
                    samoletil18 1 August 2016 11: 37
                    +2
                    American husband to Russian wife:
                    - Honey, do you have tea with sugar?
                    - No, I guess ...
                    (M.Zadornov)
          2. Vadim237
            Vadim237 31 July 2016 10: 32
            +1
            There will be a public apology of Erdogan and compensation for the downed Sushka.
        2. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 31 July 2016 10: 19
          +1
          Quote: Observer2014
          I really want to see what will happen after the meeting between Putin and Erdogan.

          I don’t know what will happen after the meeting of Putin and Erdogan, but with 100% certainty we can say that before this there will be a meeting of Obama and Erdogan. Or the Turkish president will be removed.
          1. Tusv
            Tusv 31 July 2016 10: 33
            +3
            Quote: SRC P-15
            we can say that before that there will be a meeting of Obama and Erdogan.

            Babama is too busy a man, he day and night wraps around the borders of Russia on his map. Johnny is likely to meet, and that is unlikely. Kerry is also a busy man - Zama will send
            1. SRC P-15
              SRC P-15 31 July 2016 10: 52
              0
              Quote: Tusv
              Babama is too busy a man

              Well, I think, in order not to miss Turkey, Obama will find time to meet somewhere in neutral territory. And to talk on the phone, none of them will refuse.
              1. Tusv
                Tusv 31 July 2016 11: 09
                0
                Quote: SRC P-15
                Obama will find time to meet somewhere in neutral territory.

                So such meetings are planned six months in advance. Security and other chips. An exception is Assad’s visit to Moscow and then a month of headache among gbeshnikov for sure. Well, a mobile phone is a symbol of prosperity - everyone will get it laughing Prankers witness it
          2. Karlovar
            Karlovar 31 July 2016 13: 29
            +1
            They can clean it, they have experience with a bolsa, they don’t dazzle with their presences! Everything will depend on the qualifications of the Russian and Chinese special services, well, on the qualifications and loyalty of the Turkish .... Fidel Vedas were saved from hacking bites ....
      2. Berkut24
        Berkut24 31 July 2016 13: 49
        0
        In the traditions of politicians in the Middle East, posturing, flattery, menacing appearance and bribery. As they say, the East is a delicate matter. External catchy actions may not reflect the internal settings. This applies to mi Assad. This region is traded until death.
    4. nils
      nils 31 July 2016 09: 56
      +1
      Quote: avvg
      Erdogan reached the end


      This step shows that the leadership of Turkey "went over to the side of Russia in the Syrian conflict," the German edition notes.
      But doesn’t it seem to you that everything is not so simple, especially after the advertising campaign on the withdrawal of Russian troops from Syria?
    5. kotvov
      kotvov 31 July 2016 10: 04
      +2
      At the end, the Turks realized who is friend, who is the enemy and with whom one should deal. ,,
      Yes, nothing came to them. The Turks thought that they were conducting a concert, but they simply used them. Now, convulsive movements have begun, no more.
      1. Khariton
        Khariton 31 July 2016 10: 23
        +2
        Well done Turks .... Commendable! As they say you closed, we opened.)))))
        Already have results ...!
        The Syrian army seized the warehouse of American weapons of militants in Aleppo (VIDEO) 31.07.2016/5/30 - XNUMX:XNUMX
        The Syrian army seized the warehouse of American weapons in the city of Aleppo. Military commanders captured the moment the warehouse was discovered and its contents.
        The members of one of the gangs there stored grenades, anti-tank missiles TOW-2 and Milan, mortar and artillery shells, ammunition and other ammunition and weapons.
        All these weapons were thrown by bandits, who fled from the advancing troops when they liberated the Bani Zeid region of Aleppo.
        https://youtu.be/QnBD22_A4tU

        Erdogan, if this goes on, we will jointly calm the Middle East! Across the ocean, live too quiet ...
      2. kodxnumx
        kodxnumx 31 July 2016 10: 24
        +4
        It’s just that President Erdogan’s feelings of self-preservation worked, everyone wants to live! The USA decided to remove him because they realized that he understood their game!
      3. Lelek
        Lelek 31 July 2016 10: 34
        +5
        Quote: kotvov
        At the end, the Turks realized who is friend, who is the enemy and with whom one should deal. ,,


        Well, it was you, my friend, who jumped in front of the locomotive. "TUROK" is a huckster and extortionist. Erdogan plays his game with elements of blackmail everyone and everyone, and he succeeds due to the unique geopolitical location of the country. So, Turkey's transition to the camp of friends of Russia - "Fata Morgana" and the words "sultans" should be treated with great skepticism. The only thing that can bring us (Russia and Turkey) closer is mutual economic interest, here something is outlined (click). yes
    6. Rus2012
      Rus2012 31 July 2016 10: 29
      +3
      Quote: avvg
      At the end, it reached the Turks


      ... but did it come down to under 3,14, 5 endos - i.e. how do those who yelled sing now, including here on VO - "Youth Theater, staging ..." and so on about the situation with the mutiny / coup in Turkey? Seems now shedding "crocodile tears", talking about - "a bloody tyrant terrorizing his own people," - seeing the arrests and removal of those involved in the rebellion and representatives of the XNUMXth column of the West ...
    7. APASUS
      APASUS 31 July 2016 12: 11
      0
      Quote: avvg
      At the end, the Turks realized who is friend, who is the enemy and who should be dealt with.

      That you as children came to them ..........
      Erdogan needs time to crack down on the opposition, build a strict branch of power and suppress discontent among the military. He needs a break now!
      Two three months, a maximum of half a year and we will see a different Turkey and a different policy
    8. Pushkar77
      Pushkar77 31 July 2016 12: 51
      +2
      Erdogan now has enough internal hemorrhoids, putschists, Kurds, by and large he is not up to Syria (and this is very good). Therefore, the rebels are depressed and begin to give up a little in Allepo (those who have not yet had their entire brain worn out), the rest are flattened. Of course, Idlib also needs to be sorted out, this is the domain of the nonsense, but if Turkey really stops helping rebels, then after the full capture of Allepo, it will be possible to remove pretty ticks along the border from Latakia and Allepo. Let's hope that a furry animal (forever) will come to rebels and igiloids.
    9. g1v2
      g1v2 31 July 2016 14: 12
      0
      Friend-enemy, this is not about the relations of the state. The state has only interests. It seems that the Turks began to reduce their participation in the war against Assad shows that the GDP was able to prove to Erdogan that the overthrow of Assad is an unsuccessful business project that will not pay off. But cooperation with the Russian Federation will bring Turkey profit and help to recapture at least part of the money spent by the Turks to foment war in Syria. Comrade Erdogan understood that it seemed that they could not bring him other dividends spent of $ 20 billion except 300 thousand killed Syrians, only harm in the form of strengthening Kurds and other problems. So, this business project must be minimized. hi
    10. Zulu_S
      Zulu_S 31 July 2016 23: 04
      0
      Whether the Turks went, who is friend and who is enemy, is not important. What is important is what they know now: IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO FIGHT WITH RUSSIA. More expensive for yourself.
    11. SPQR1977
      SPQR1977 2 August 2016 06: 12
      +2
      ACCESSORY WITH HOLIDAY YOU ALL !!!! drinks angry
  2. Lord_Bran
    Lord_Bran 31 July 2016 09: 41
    +2
    This is probably a surprise for the States.
    It is funny to watch the fluttering of the Sultan, who owes much to our intelligence for his salvation. First he bit the owner, and now he’s letting his accomplices out.
    1. DIVAN SOLDIER
      DIVAN SOLDIER 31 July 2016 10: 10
      -7
      This is comparable to the fact that if Soviet intelligence saved Hitler in 1945 ... So they could have saved Erdogan, but there is no way to calculate preparation for an attack on our Su24 ... and whose intelligence is it? And who does she work for ??
      1. co-creator
        co-creator 31 July 2016 10: 25
        +5
        Do you really think that in 2008 the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces did not know that Georgians would attack Tskhinval and peacekeepers? These are politics and soldiers in her pawns. THE PILOT RECEIVED DEADLESS STAR OF A HERO, and the Russian Federation dragged the s-400 and made an airless zone for other air forces and began to use artillery and aircraft parts almost openly.
        1. DIVAN SOLDIER
          DIVAN SOLDIER 31 July 2016 10: 29
          0
          Yes, no one did not close the air (well, except for the Turks), the Americans with the coalition both flew and fly. And why can the US use the troops openly, and ours only thanks to provocations?
          1. co-creator
            co-creator 31 July 2016 10: 43
            +4
            Nobody flies, everything only with the approval of the Russian Federation and only to the red line.
            Because the USA is the USA, and we are not. Someone for doping gender teams anihiliruyut in Rio, and others nothing.
        2. Karlovar
          Karlovar 31 July 2016 13: 40
          +1
          The Ossetian acquaintance, the kingdom of heaven to him, personally told me that in 2008 in Chkhinval some of his neighbors of non-Ossetian nationality left their homes 1-2 days before the events without leaving a daze lampotsek ....
      2. kunstkammer
        kunstkammer 31 July 2016 10: 36
        +3
        calculate preparation for an attack on our su24

        I don’t want to use conspiracy theory, but judge for yourself:
        From the very beginning of the operation of the air force, bombers were accompanied by our fighters. Then began the screams of Turkey about the violation of its borders by Russian aircraft. Almost simultaneously, all references to the escort of our bombers by fighters ceased.
        Didn’t our valiant military commanders know that there was an order in Turkey to shoot down planes? They knew!
        Did not know that Turkey and Greece almost constantly bombard each other's planes at the border? Yes, in all the media, all ears buzzed as they hit each other's planes.
        And did our military leaders know nothing? Nonsense!
        Then the Turks shot down our plane - ah yai yai how unexpectedly!
        There are two conclusions: either our generals are large and hopeless boobies (which by the way is possible) or our pilots were framed.
        I think that in this political game they simply sacrificed our pilots.
        1. kunstkammer
          kunstkammer 31 July 2016 11: 40
          0
          I would also like to add:
          But how did our escort of the downed SU-24 work from the ground? Or did they have no connection with the earth? Or the land did not accompany our planes and did not see that Turkish fighters were approaching them?
          Exactly, the Turks jumped out from behind the shed! From the underground right! Ambush, damn it!
          They allowed the Turks to approach our aircraft at a distance of missile launch and ... they did not inform the crew!
          Or is this stupid flight support?
          Even during World War II, they warned from the ground if German fighters were approaching.
          When training flights, pilots are always warned if other planes are working in their area, but here ... how unexpected! Who would have thought!
          1. Parsec
            Parsec 31 July 2016 11: 48
            +1
            Quote: kunstkammer
            Exactly, the Turks jumped out from behind the shed! From the underground right! Ambush, damn it!
            They allowed the Turks to approach our aircraft at a distance of missile launch and ... they did not inform the crew!


            You do not have a clue about the incident, but you climb with conclusions and discussions as a pioneer with a lecture on the international situation.
        2. Parsec
          Parsec 31 July 2016 11: 45
          -3
          Quote: kunstkammer
          Didn’t our valiant military commanders know that there was an order in Turkey to shoot down planes? They knew!


          You are your own intelligence officer, investigator, prosecutor and pilot.

          Interrogated the generals? Change command post? Lavrov, along with Putin, and a confrontation with Erdogan held - who agreed on anything before the operation?

          And voiced. Loud bunch.
      3. Dart2027
        Dart2027 31 July 2016 11: 12
        +1
        Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
        So they could save Erdogan, but there is no way to calculate preparation for an attack on our Su24 .. and whose intelligence is it

        Don't you think that preparing for a coup is a much larger enterprise than an attack on one plane? Which is easier to calculate?
  3. GAF
    GAF 31 July 2016 09: 43
    +1
    Erdogan’s head is smart, but his neck is long.
    1. Mikhail Krapivin
      Mikhail Krapivin 31 July 2016 14: 33
      0
      That's for sure. And the silk lace-noose, historically so beloved in the same Turkey, has not been canceled.
  4. ALEXX.
    ALEXX. 31 July 2016 09: 45
    +4
    Erdogan’s next move?
  5. atamankko
    atamankko 31 July 2016 09: 50
    0
    These are no longer tomatoes.
  6. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 31 July 2016 09: 52
    +1
    Yes, oxygen is cut off for the "right terrorists". Alas, the next move is not for Erdogan, but for the terrorists.
    1. Karlovar
      Karlovar 31 July 2016 13: 43
      +1
      The move for their sponsors .... We will see ...
  7. Signore Tomato
    Signore Tomato 31 July 2016 09: 54
    0
    This is called - Erdogash sobered up.
  8. moskowit
    moskowit 31 July 2016 09: 55
    +9
    This, of course, is good ... But I think one cannot but take into account the "Eastern cunning". In a short time, the Turkish leader is changing his policy for the third time ... Or is he waiting, who will give more? ...
    As the great Stanislavsky used to say: "I don't believe!"
    1. co-creator
      co-creator 31 July 2016 10: 27
      -1
      What else do you have to do? wassat Only reassure yourself with quotes from Stanislavsky.
  9. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 31 July 2016 09: 58
    +6
    On whose side Erdogan went and with whom he wants to establish relations, this is another question, time will tell. But the fact that steps have been outlined to begin cooperation in the fight against terrorism are indisputable. True, there is still a problem with the right wing of the PKK, but I think ours will help ease tension, maybe certain steps have already been taken in this direction, and therefore Erdogan has turned so sharply. However, one cannot discount the influence of the United States and NATO; here one can expect serious pressure and meanness.
    1. Karlovar
      Karlovar 31 July 2016 13: 48
      +1
      The carriage and tacka will sprinkle with meanness! Suspicions overpower me, because the Russian team a couple of days before the Olympics will suddenly not allow a resat, at least a bolsast team of the team ...
  10. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 31 July 2016 10: 01
    +2
    Cool turns the sultan. 180 degrees. Now the barmaley in Aleppo are definitely khan. Without support and supply, even barmaleys cannot fight.
    It seems that the swarthy hegemon was sent to ... And Erdogan thinks that he is immortal? Hegemons, if anything, and their own presidents "cleaned up". They may try to return Turkey "to the fold", as Matrasia's defeat in Syria is "not high". Turkey is unlikely to leave NATO, not France, if anything, but it can suspend cooperation. Our SVR is now one more headache - to keep an eye on the Turkish president laughing
  11. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 31 July 2016 10: 04
    -1
    Maybe this will help us near Allepo?
  12. sub307
    sub307 31 July 2016 10: 08
    0
    Vmdimo Putin, when communicating with Erdogan, gave quite convincing arguments .... That's nice - 100% victory on the "political field", without "firing", so to speak.
  13. Barakuda
    Barakuda 31 July 2016 10: 10
    +2
    It’s kind of like meeting Germany, a gesture. And as Erdoganyushka and his son supplied, so it will be. He obeys his masters, It’s not even worth voicing.
    In my hallway there is an American flag instead of a rug. Current bitch clogs quickly.
    1. samoletil18
      samoletil18 31 July 2016 10: 29
      +1
      It seems to me that you simply do not have much desire to clean the American flag from pollution. On the other hand, there is already rubbish on the porg, what should I clean there.
  14. Seraphimamur
    Seraphimamur 31 July 2016 10: 18
    +5
    Wherever the perdogan would rush if it does bad for terrorists (closes the supply channels) then it does well for Russia. And we'll see, but obviously you can’t trust him.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 31 July 2016 10: 36
      +1
      This Rat will still throw some bullshit in relation to Russia.
  15. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 31 July 2016 10: 22
    -1
    The Turks will now write out to militants of the pass, or they will give their citizenship, and everything will be back to square one, the same militants with Turkish passports will go through other checkpoints to Syria ...
  16. newcomer
    newcomer 31 July 2016 10: 23
    +5
    I don’t know what ants are in Erdogan’s head, but his position today is very favorable to us with the Syrians. it will be easier and faster to finish off the barmalei. and then politics. I believe that he will no longer serve the West and the Yankees so reliably. the main Turkish economy is tied to Russia more tightly. the training of his officers in our military universities, also a strong leash, will not be out of place.
  17. samoletil18
    samoletil18 31 July 2016 10: 31
    0
    In any case, Erdogan is discredited. But, if it is possible to use it, then it is a sin not to work in your own interests.
  18. Pitot
    Pitot 31 July 2016 10: 40
    0
    We’ll wait - we will see a glance .... East is a delicate matter ....
  19. Tusv
    Tusv 31 July 2016 10: 41
    0
    He himself did not believe that Erdogan accepted our Terrorow List. By the way, we did not record SSA in basmachi. Thought to arbiter, Pasha Erdogan? But all the will of Allah, and Vladimir Vladimirovich knows how to convince
  20. SCHWERIN
    SCHWERIN 31 July 2016 10: 48
    +1
    I watch comments and am surprised. Although I understand that everything is the way. 90% of the comrades, like weathercocks turned and sang a new song and welcomed the actions of Turkey.
    For support of the course towards rapprochement with the Turks, I was mercilessly mined a month ago.
    1. Karlovar
      Karlovar 31 July 2016 13: 52
      +1
      The people are sickly national, not worth the obizyat.
  21. K-50
    K-50 31 July 2016 11: 05
    +2
    Turkish border guards closed Bab al-Hawa crossing, which was used by militants of the "Free Syrian Army" in order to get to Turkey

    Well, if not an allegation, but really closed, then one channel to help the barmaley slammed shut. It is necessary to close other gaps for these cockroaches. Only then will we talk about the imminent eradication of terrorist evil.
  22. firefighter
    firefighter 31 July 2016 11: 10
    +1
    Oh, I don’t believe Erdogan Talibovich! The Basurmanin clearly conceived disgust. I can't believe this fox will change its color. Well, okay, let's live and see. But I am glad that he puts sticks in the wheels of the mattress mats. After all, it is the "great democrats and peacekeepers" who are most interested in the war in Syria.
  23. mamont5
    mamont5 31 July 2016 11: 42
    0
    Quote: avvg
    At the end, the Turks realized who is friend, who is the enemy and who should be dealt with.

    Got it. Or rather, brought to an understanding. That is the answer to what our negotiations with Turkey have achieved.
  24. viktor.
    viktor. 31 July 2016 11: 55
    +1
    I don’t believe the Ottomans, I don’t believe it, rather I want to show the Americans and Europe I want to put it in the ANGEL and put it with a leather belt in the ass, I don’t sincerely think all this, it hurts quickly (THINKED), it’s rather dancing to the tune of the Anglo-Saxons, although who knows maybe in the corner stands.
  25. Zomanus
    Zomanus 31 July 2016 14: 01
    0
    Well, the Turks have clearly seen who, in essence, are Americans and Europeans,
    with his "The empire has no permanent friends ...".
    Now let's see how Turkey will be punished for their willfulness.
  26. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 31 July 2016 16: 52
    0
    Something follows, I agree ... Here from the series about the dog that bit the owner it turns out.
    1. Former battalion commander
      Former battalion commander 31 July 2016 20: 00
      0
      ... Then from the series about the dog that bit the owner it turns out.

      When the owner wants to beat his dog, the dog has no choice ... True, the dog is kind of dumb, let's say frankly ... There were a bunch of examples - Saddam, Mubarak, Osama ...
  27. Dr. Sorge
    Dr. Sorge 31 July 2016 17: 24
    +2
    Wow. Perdro said to his lowly ????
  28. water
    water 31 July 2016 18: 01
    +2
    Quote: avvg
    At the end, the Turks realized who is friend, who is the enemy and who should be dealt with.

    But, for this it took 400 years - to think! How hard are people to think !?
  29. Former battalion commander
    Former battalion commander 31 July 2016 19: 53
    0
    Erdogan is too odious a figure to consider him a neutral or even an ally ... the specifics of the east ... "the east is a delicate matter for Petrukh" ... I think the psi will outbid him ... well, they will surrender there that preacher, they will say that they have nothing to do with them, they say the general played them, they will PERSONALLY select a couple of three lards PERSONALLY a little threatened ... will not go anywhere ... will return to the bosom, so to speak ... His alternative is too cool - SET 37 YEAR YEAR FOR YOUR ARMY, drive out amers, spit with NATO and Geyrope ... No! He will not go too coolly for this ... Although YOUR LIFE is the same that means something ...
  30. Alex von Dorn
    Alex von Dorn 1 August 2016 07: 24
    +1
    Putin’s brilliant foreign policy strategy. The states are just confused. If, even after August 9, Turkey will raise the question of withdrawing from NATO, then the mattress covers will howl altogether. Bravo, Putin!
  31. Zord3375
    Zord3375 1 August 2016 08: 29
    0
    while it is beneficial to Erdogan
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