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Russian President opened a monument to Russian and Soviet soldiers in Slovenia

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Russian President Vladimir Putin, during a visit to Slovenia, unveiled a monument to Russian and Soviet soldiers who died in two world wars, reports REGNUM with reference to the Kremlin press service.




It is reported that "Vladimir Putin, together with his Slovenian counterpart Borut Pahor, laid wreaths at the memorial."

The leaders of the two countries stated that they “share the position on the inadmissibility of attempts to rewrite stories", And will work together on" strengthening security in the European continent. "



Putin noted that the open memorial "will reflect a common position on the inadmissibility of attempts to distort and rewrite history."

“The authorship of the architectural composition belongs to the creative team of Russian sculptors and artists, which included Maria Tatevian, Yana Bragovskaya, Stanislav Smolyaninova, Oleg Kalinin,” the press service noted.

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  1. Teberii
    Teberii 31 July 2016 09: 14
    +18
    Beautiful monument, thanks to the Slovenes.
    1. nils
      nils 31 July 2016 09: 37
      +6
      "Putin noted that the open memorial" will reflect the common position the inadmissibility of distorting and rewriting history»

      But what about Putin’s position in Katyn?

      Putin, speaking at a joint press conference after negotiations with Tusk (April 2010), stated that Joseph Stalin out of revenge ordered the execution of Polish troops in Katyn.
      “I think this is my personal opinion that Stalin felt his personal responsibility for the tragedy (associated with the Soviet-Polish military conflict in the 20s) and carried out this execution out of a sense of revenge,” Putin said.

      In my opinion, all sane people who delved into this matter not only according to media reports have no doubts about the execution of Polish officers by the Germans.
      The Goebbels case lives and wins.
      1. Teberii
        Teberii 31 July 2016 09: 54
        +2
        Stalin did not take revenge, he destroyed the officer corps. To avoid attempts at rebellion among the soldiers. This experience he gained during the civil war, on the example of the Czechoslovakia corps.
      2. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 31 July 2016 09: 57
        -4
        Quote: nils
        "Putin noted that the open memorial" will reflect the common position the inadmissibility of distorting and rewriting history»

        But what about Putin’s position in Katyn?

        Putin, speaking at a joint press conference after negotiations with Tusk (April 2010), stated that Joseph Stalin out of revenge ordered the execution of Polish troops in Katyn.
        “I think this is my personal opinion that Stalin felt his personal responsibility for the tragedy (associated with the Soviet-Polish military conflict in the 20s) and carried out this execution out of a sense of revenge,” Putin said.

        In my opinion, all sane people who delved into this matter not only according to media reports have no doubts about the execution of Polish officers by the Germans.
        The Goebbels case lives and wins.

        How how. We will not rewrite, but we will re-sound.
        It was such a bleak time. Now it’s good.
        1. captain
          captain 31 July 2016 10: 32
          0
          When will we erect monuments to those killed in the First World War in Russia? Or are we still living according to Leninist laws? The imperialist war and soldiers do not deserve memory? Lenin dispersed the historical faculties at our universities, the history of the Russian people did not impress him. And Stalin reinstated in 1930, apparently realized that it is impossible to make defenders of the Fatherland from Ivanov who do not remember their kinship. Which was proved in the fall of 41. And they remembered about the church and about the icons, the war passed and again began to destroy the memory of the Russian people.
          1. Tusv
            Tusv 31 July 2016 10: 50
            -1
            Quote: captain
            When will we erect monuments to those killed in the First World War in Russia?

            Bryusilov absolutely deserved, but so far films about him are being shot
            1. Parsec
              Parsec 31 July 2016 11: 34
              -2
              Quote: Tusv
              Bryusilov absolutely deserved, but so far films about him are being shot


              You are not confusing Brusilova with Bruce Lee?
              1. Tusv
                Tusv 31 July 2016 12: 00
                +1
                Quote: Parsec
                You are not confusing Brusilova with Bruce Lee?

                And who is Bruce Lee? Same name or something.
                Excuse me. What is the question, is the answer
                1. Evver
                  Evver 31 July 2016 17: 25
                  -2
                  As you wrote - so they asked you ...
                  what will happen next?

                  Ushyakov
                  KutuzAv
                  Nahimav

                  or, bahratin ???
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          3. Aleksander
            Aleksander 31 July 2016 12: 26
            +2
            Quote: captain
            When will we erect monuments to those killed in the First World War in Russia?


            Yes, against the backdrop of the almost complete absence of such monuments in Russia, the opening of the Memorial in ... Slovenia looks like a public relations event.

            Exist granite cross monument on the site of the first official Fraternal Cemetery of Russian soldiers-defenders of the Fatherland near Tsarskoye Selo.

            The cemetery itself was demolished by bulldozers with a commode, on the part of the cemetery .... gardens were laid out.

            It was demolished because it was opened at the initiative of the Empress, who, along with her daughters, accompanied the soldiers who died from wounds on their last journey. They looked after the graves. It was necessary to etch the memory of them.
            1. owl
              owl 31 July 2016 15: 32
              +1
              How convenient !, that you can cry crying first sent to the slaughterhouse and then also on the last journey and even the cemetery to you on the initiative good what did they want no one to remind?, Constantinople (Istanbul) what else, "brothers" about which the "man" did not know?
          4. tatra
            tatra 31 July 2016 18: 14
            0
            Quote: captain
            When will we erect monuments to those killed in the First World War in Russia?

            You, the enemies of the Communists in the territory of the former USSR, are doing everything just for the BENEFIT.
            You and "remembered", and only about one of the many monarchs of pre-revolutionary centuries-old Russia - the last, and only to create by you an anti-Soviet myth "how everything was wonderful before the Bolsheviks."
            You have slandered the Soviet period, the pre-revolutionary period "thrown into the trash heap", but you have yours, except "the communists are always to blame for everything and always," and there is nothing.
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    2. Vend
      Vend 1 August 2016 10: 19
      0
      Quote: Teberii
      Beautiful monument, thanks to the Slovenes.

      The idea of ​​the monument is simply gorgeous. It seems to be simple, but how many emotions arise when looking at him.
  2. moskowit
    moskowit 31 July 2016 09: 15
    +7
    Eternal Glory and Memory of the Fallen!
  3. Observer2014
    Observer2014 31 July 2016 09: 16
    +4
    Both Serbs and Slovaks are indeed fraternal peoples. Many of our "rodychas" with whom we border have a lot to learn.
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 31 July 2016 09: 17
      +6
      Quote: Observer2014
      what slovaks

      Slovakia and Slovenia are not the same thing.
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 31 July 2016 09: 24
        +6
        Vladimirets hi
        Slovakia and Slovenia are not the same thing.
        I mentioned Serbs as representatives of all the Slovenian peoples of the former Yugoslavia hi
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 31 July 2016 09: 29
          +1
          Quote: Observer2014
          I mentioned Serbs as representatives of all the Slovenian peoples of the former Yugoslavia

          So I misunderstood. hi
  4. Sarmat149
    Sarmat149 31 July 2016 09: 21
    +2
    Slovenes are the most western of the Western Slavs and the smallest.
  5. avvg
    avvg 31 July 2016 09: 21
    +5
    Thank God, in Europe there are still states that do not have Russophobia, unlike the Eastern Slavs and the Baltic states, and Russophobia is not a state policy.
    1. captain
      captain 31 July 2016 18: 28
      +1
      In Russia, there are a lot of people with Russophobia. Especially the descendants of true Leninists; Svanidze, Boris Akunin, Gaidar, Chubais, etc. By the way, and the daughter of Stalin. An interesting fact, all the children and grandchildren of our general secretaries (Stalin’s daughter, Khrushchev’s son, Andropov’s children, Gorbachev’s daughter and himself) live abroad. How do they pour dirt on Russia !!! In addition to the children of Chernenko, who live in Russia. The Communist Party was and is a hotbed of Russophobia.
      1. tatra
        tatra 31 July 2016 18: 47
        0
        Quote: captain
        The Communist Party was and is a hotbed of Russophobia.

        You, the enemies of the Communists, always falsify everything as you FAVORABLE.
        As soon as your "Liberator" Gorbachev gave you freedom of action, the enemies of the communists in the national republics immediately began to expel the Russians, beat them, kill them, and rape Russian women and girls.
        And we, Russians in Russia, immediately became "lazy and drunkards" with nothing to be proud of in their history, but we only need to repent for your mythical "crimes of communism" that you composed to justify your capture of the USSR.
        And the enemies of the Communists immediately after the capture of Russia began to destroy not only everything Soviet, but also Russian, and everywhere to impose foreignism.
        1. captain
          captain 31 July 2016 19: 21
          +2
          Well, to begin with, Gorbachev is the Secretary General of the CPSU. He was chosen by people like you. He organized the Russian genocide in the Union republics, as Lenin, Trotsky, Uritsky did, etc. These people hated the Russians, they destroyed the Russian peasants (the Tambov uprising, the Shadrinsk uprising, Chepan uprising, and if there is interest, look in libraries and the Internet), who believed and supported them. The peasants believed that they had been given land, but only temporarily. Lenin and his brothers created the Union republics at the expense of the Russian lands and the Russian people. Uritsky and Lenin destroyed the Cossacks, the people who annexed to Russia most of the land that we now have. If you are really interested in history. then you should know Dzerzhinsky and Stal in were against Leninist national politics. They wrote at the time that this would lead to nationalism.
          1. tatra
            tatra 31 July 2016 19: 43
            -2
            Quote: captain
            Well, to begin with, Gorbachev is the Secretary General of the CPSU. He was chosen by people like you


            Gorbachev, as the one who surrendered the USSR and the Soviet people to their external and internal enemies, betrayed and slandered the party that entrusted the country and the people to him, "no one elected.
            And you, enemies of the USSR and the Soviet people, also betrayed your benefactor Gorbachev when you no longer needed him.
            The mentality of traitors, you won’t do anything.
            It’s just the enemies of the Communists, that under the USSR, that after, they live not according to conscience, but according to BENEFIT and always pretend to be those who are FAVORABLE.
            And you, the enemies of the communists, staged the REAL genocide, only in Russia the supermortality rate after 1991 amounted to more than 13 million people, and you, such as all the "great philanthropists" in your anti-Soviet region, prove yourself that you don't care.
            ALL your anti-Soviet propaganda is a complete lie, slander, hypocrisy, double standards.
            But the blame for YOUR real crimes, and those who are beneficial to you, you, the enemies of the Communists will never recognize.
            1. captain
              captain 31 July 2016 19: 55
              0
              All you write is demagogy. All the children and grandchildren of our general secretaries live beyond the hill. I repeat, EVERYTHING except Chernenko’s children. And how many children are the secretaries of the Central Committee of the CPSU, candidates for members of the Politburo, secretaries of the Union republics !!! The CPSU was and is a party of crooks, workers and peasants joined this party, only by coercion or because of self-interest. I do not believe that they dreamed that the children of the general secretaries would live in the USA and in the EU. I do not believe. Who believes, let him write.
              1. captain
                captain 31 July 2016 20: 04
                +1
                Well, put the minuses, write that all the workers and peasants communists dreamed that the children of the CPSU general secretaries would live over the hill. Write, because put the minus.
              2. tatra
                tatra 31 July 2016 20: 10
                -2
                Quote: captain
                All you write is demagogy.

                The fact that someone's children from the highest echelons of power of the USSR left the USSR does not matter. They, unlike the children of the enemies of the communists who captured the USSR, have no huge accounts abroad, no luxurious houses, villas, yachts.
                You, the enemies of the Communists, your total slander against the Bolshevik Communists, is the only one from the end of the 80s that you have the excuse to capture the USSR.
                By this, you immediately proved that you had captured the USSR with criminal purposes. If people do something with good goals, they don’t need to slander others for the sake of justification.
                Neither the Bolsheviks-the Communists, nor we, their supporters, will ever slander anyone for almost 100 years after the October Revolution to justify it.
                We, in contrast to the enemies of the communists who seized the USSR, did not betray our leaders, and did not pretend to be cowardly "but we have nothing to do with it, these are those who were guilty before us, are still disentangling".
  6. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 31 July 2016 09: 21
    +4
    Slovenia is a wonderful country. Some kind of calm, measured, rather prosperous. The most "correct" Slavic country in the Balkans.
    1. Lord_Bran
      Lord_Bran 31 July 2016 09: 46
      0
      They are too lazy to shout anti-Russian slogans) Although they do not want to. Slovenia is good)
      1. unsinkable
        unsinkable 31 July 2016 18: 05
        0
        Quote: Lord_Bran
        They are too lazy to shout anti-Russian slogans)

        Aren't you too lazy to write such crap? negative
  7. engineering
    engineering 31 July 2016 09: 26
    +5
    The main thing is that this monument is made with soul, very beautiful, and most importantly it is still respect for the memory of the Russian and Soviet soldiers who died from Slovenia, who died in two world wars.
  8. Kudrevkn
    Kudrevkn 31 July 2016 09: 31
    +6
    Slavs, Slovenes and Serbs turned out to be more grateful to Mother of Russia than Slavs, Poles, Czechs, Slovaks and especially cynical "brothers" Bulgarians, who BETRAYED the sacred memory of our fallen ancestors in the struggle for freedom and independence of their dwarf "liberal - democratic" countries ?! Even the Romanesque Swiss are more SLAVS than these ungrateful geeks who do not remember good and take revenge on the dead in order to annoy the living, that is, to us - the Russians and our Motherland - Russia! But God is not a fraer - will the cat's tears pour out? We have a good saying: "As it comes around, it will respond!" The people who have forgotten the terrible lessons of their own History are a degenerating people! Will degenerate like mammoths and these geeks - "Slavs" !? For they are not Slavs, but don't you understand that "on a stick" and even in an "ice hole"?
    1. 222222
      222222 31 July 2016 10: 45
      +1
      especially cynical "brothers" Bulgarians, who betrayed the sacred memory of our fallen ancestors in the struggle for the freedom and independence of their dwarf "liberal - democratic" countries "" "....... Eastern small former socialist countries. entering NATO, and The EU wished to lay its weakness on the shoulders of an Atlantic organization For example, in the defense sphere, so that NATO, in accordance with paragraph 5, would guarantee sovereignty, since there are no forces and public means, no financial, economic, or industrial defense. Bulgaria .. in Soviet times, the ground forces had THREE combined-arms armies .. Now there are two separate mechanized brigades (2 and 61 Ombr_) and 68 brigade of special forces .. That's all their NATO zeal ..
  9. Khariton
    Khariton 31 July 2016 09: 32
    +8
    A beautiful monument, immediately reminded a legendary song about cranes .... Eternal memory of the fallen nameless soldiers ... We remember! And do not disgrace you ...
    1. Evver
      Evver 31 July 2016 17: 46
      0
      Yesterday I saw an interview with one of the authors, Maria Tatevian, out of the corner of my eye, and so — the idea of ​​the monument was inspired by this particular song!
  10. brasist
    brasist 31 July 2016 09: 37
    +11
    R. Gamzatov

    It seems to me at times that soldiers,
    From the bloody fields that have not come.
    Not once we fell into our land once,
    And they turned into white cranes.
    They are still from the time of those distant
    They fly and give us votes.
    Not because it is so often and sadly
    We are silent, looking at the sky.

    A wedge is flying, a wedge is flying across the sky,
    Flies in the fog at the end of the day.
    And in that formation there is a small gap,
    Maybe this is the place for me.
    The day will come with the crane
    I'll swim in the same blue haze,
    From under the sky to the bird's call
    All those whom he left on earth.
  11. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 31 July 2016 09: 41
    +4
    LYUBLYANA, 30 Jul - RIA News. The head of the Ministry of Communications of the Russian Federation Nikolai Nikiforov believes that Russia and Slovenia managed to choose an interesting, neutral and positive idea of ​​a monument to Russian and Soviet soldiers who died in Slovenia during the two world wars.

    The Minister noted the uniqueness of this monument, which is dedicated to the victims of two wars.
    "Secondly, this is perhaps the only monument that has been erected since the collapse of the USSR (in Europe) ... As we know, in recent years, we often see, on the contrary, precedents for the desecration of such burials and memorials," the minister added.
    The initiative to erect the monument was first discussed during Putin's working visit to Slovenia in March 2011. The monument bears the inscription: "To the sons of Russia and the Soviet Union who died on Slovenian soil during the First and Second World Wars."

    The monument was erected by the Russian military-historical society in cooperation with the Russian Embassy in Slovenia.

    At the site of the memorial for about 5 years, this stone stood.
  12. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 31 July 2016 09: 42
    +4
    Though somewhere else there are people who have not sold their honor and conscience for the dishes of a beautiful life and free livers! The people who honor the memory of the soldiers of the fallen for their freedom, for their independence, and for their life!
    And some traitors went even further, turning everything upside down, calling our fallen acupants!
  13. moskowit
    moskowit 31 July 2016 09: 48
    +2
    A big request to the authors writing on the liberation of Europe is to describe the fighting in Slovenia and which parts of the Red Army took part in this ...
    One more thing. Slovenia was part of the First World War in the Austro-Hungarian Empire, which was at war with Russia ... I would like to know about the Russian soldiers of World War I who fell on the territory of Slovenia ... They that were sent to help the Italians? I have not heard or read ...
  14. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 31 July 2016 09: 51
    +4
    And yet, although this is not accepted in some circles, I’ll say: I like our president, I’m not ashamed of him, but proud of some of his actions! Not that it’s a disgrace like Humpbacked or guzzled Yeltsin or Parashenka being pushed to Europe or a fool pretending to be Obama’s world hegemony, Spineless amoeba of Hollande, or frightened Merkel ....
  15. sub307
    sub307 31 July 2016 10: 02
    +2
    The "correct monument" was opened, and ... "thank God", as they say, that this is not a monument in the "face of a tank", of which many were erected in Soviet times. Indeed - a beautiful monument.
  16. atamankko
    atamankko 31 July 2016 10: 02
    +2
    There are real nations in Europe that have honor and conscience,
    it is a pity that there are very few of them left.
  17. VeteranS
    VeteranS 31 July 2016 10: 14
    +2
    Particularly respectful is the fact that the people of Slovenia carefully kept the Orthodox chapel, built by the hands of Russian soldiers in memory of those who died during the First World War for 100 (!) Years ... And this despite the fact that Slovenia is a member of NATO and the EU .. .As a silent reproach to the pro-American authorities in Poland, the Baltic states, and Ukraine, which in every way destroy the bright memory of Soviet (Russian) liberating soldiers!
    1. moskowit
      moskowit 31 July 2016 10: 53
      0
      And it should be noted that in Slovenia about 60% of the population profess Catholicism ...
      Dear Semyon, is it possible to find the image of this chapel in the internet? Most likely it was built by representatives of our military emigration after the Civil War. Then, a lot of them settled in Yugoslavia. Ours organized and served in their border service. They opened a cadet corps and a military school ... They left a noticeable mark in pre-war Yugoslavia.
    2. moskowit
      moskowit 31 July 2016 11: 22
      +2
      Found the answers to the questions. In Slovenia, they were Russian prisoners and they built ...
      For those interested in how I give a certificate from Wikipedia ...

      ".. The Russian chapel on Vršič (Slovenian. Ruska kapela na Vršiču, St. Vladimir Chapel) is a Russian Orthodox chapel in honor of the Holy Equal-to-the-Apostles Prince Vladimir, located on the high-mountain pass Vršič (Slovenian. Vršič) in the north-west of Slovenia. Built by the Russian military. during the First World War.

      In July 1915, a prisoner of war camp was organized near Kranjska Gora (at the junction of the modern borders of Slovenia, Austria and Italy), whose task was to build a strategic road through the Vršić pass. Most of them were Orthodox Russian soldiers, since before Italy entered the war, Austria-Hungary, which then included Slovenia, fought exclusively with Russia [1]. In 1916-1917, a wooden chapel was built by Russian prisoners of war in memory of the compatriots who were building a road across the pass at the Vršić pass as a result of an avalanche on March 12, 1916. In total, from 1915 to 1917, during the existence of the Austro-Hungarian camp for Russian prisoners of war, whose labor was used in the construction of a strategic road connecting the central regions of Slovenia with the western ones, at least 10 thousand of our compatriots died. [2] [3] The chapel was renovated in 2005 at a cost of € 90000 and is now a war memorial and a symbolic link between Slovenia and Russia. The bypass road was renamed "Russian way" (Slovenian. Ruska cesta) in July 2006 ... "
      1. moskowit
        moskowit 31 July 2016 11: 31
        +1
        I also found information .. During an avalanche, 300 of our compatriots died ...
        I present a photo of that time ...
  18. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 31 July 2016 10: 18
    +2
    Look to the right — in Slovenia, they unveiled a monument to the Russian and Russian soldiers.! Honor and glory to the Slovenes for this! Now look at the left — it’s like a flat country that has not yet perished, but it is already rotting, fighting with monuments! And this virus the infectious is transmitted to ukroinu - they also quarreled with their heads and their past, rewrote history, and declared war on the monuments! That's what stupidity impassable with people does !!!
    1. Khariton
      Khariton 31 July 2016 10: 41
      -1
      Quote: Expelling Liberoids
      Look to the right — in Slovenia, they unveiled a monument to the Russian and Russian soldiers.! Honor and glory to the Slovenes for this! Now look at the left — it’s like a flat country that has not yet perished, but it is already rotting, fighting with monuments! And this virus the infectious is transmitted to ukroinu - they also quarreled with their heads and their past, rewrote history, and declared war on the monuments! That's what stupidity impassable with people does !!!

      They wrote well ... Forgive me, the Exorcist, I was wrong the other day, at the expense of you! On emotions was! hi You are OUR to your liking ... Sorry again .. soldier
  19. PValery53
    PValery53 31 July 2016 10: 45
    0
    Fidelity to "domestic coffins", to the memory of Russians who died in a foreign land is a worthy quality of a great politician, our President.
  20. Parsec
    Parsec 31 July 2016 11: 39
    +1
    Quote: PValery53
    Loyalty to "domestic coffins", ...


    and hatred of imported coffins ...

    "Love for fatherly graves" was in Pushkin.
  21. APASUS
    APASUS 31 July 2016 12: 27
    +2
    I look no one asks about the purpose of the visit. I doubt that Putin flew to open a monument to a country that is a member of NATO and the EU. In light of recent events, such trips are part of geopolitics, and not just a tribute to the departed