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The sixth nuclear submarine "Yasen" laid in Severodvinsk

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A series of multi-purpose submarines "Ash" (project 885) will be built to 2023 g, transmits RIA News the message of the Deputy Commander-in-Chief of the Navy Viktor Bursuk.


The sixth nuclear submarine "Yasen" laid in Severodvinsk


“In total, at least seven Ashes will be built. This series will be ready before 2023, and then ... the equipment always implies ways for further development, ”said Bursuk at the groundbreaking ceremony of the nuclear-powered vessel on Friday.

According to him, “Ash” of the modernized project “will continue to flow into the Pacific and Northern fleets, carrying out the same tasks, only with much greater intensity.”

The sixth submarine was called Perm. The lead ship of the Severodvinsk series was transferred the fleet in June 2014.

“This is a sign connecting the Arkhangelsk Region and the Perm Territory. As the surname of the Stroganovs merchants, revered in the south of Pomerania and in the Perm region, connects us, ”said the Governor of the Arkhangelsk Region, Igor Orlov.



In turn, the director general of the enterprise-designer (design bureau Malakhit), Vladimir Dorofeyev, stated that the cruisers of this project are capable of using all types of cruise missiles designed for submarines.

"Ash trees" carry all types of cruise missiles intended for use from submarines, "he said.

Help Agency: "Multipurpose nuclear submarines" Ash "- the fourth-generation ships with a reduced level of the acoustic field. They are designed to destroy ground and surface and underwater objects. The submarines are armed with the Caliber and Onyx cruise missiles, which can hit targets at sea and on land at a distance of up to 1,5 thousands of kilometers, as well as universal deep-water self-guided torpedoes. Ash has a 13,8 displacement of thousands of tons, is capable of sinking to a depth of up to 600 meters and developing an underwater speed up to an 31 node. ”
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  1. Khariton
    Khariton 30 July 2016 09: 28
    +10
    Well with God men! hi As the saying goes away ...
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 30 July 2016 09: 40
      +9
      Quote: Chariton
      Well with God men! hi As the saying goes away ...

      I wonder what the user under the nickname "denker1945" will write about this, so diligently humiliating the new boat with calibers in the previous article? smile
      1. kostella85
        kostella85 30 July 2016 09: 46
        +3
        He does not comment on such articles)))
        1. Denker76
          Denker76 30 July 2016 10: 16
          -4
          Not really-Commenting-Here is my comment-fifififiififfffffi.
      2. SPACE
        SPACE 30 July 2016 09: 50
        +5
        Quote: СРЦ П-15
        It is interesting that the user under the nickname "denker1945" will write to this

        Edeot, from the point of view of evolution, physically nothing worthwhile can not write ... "Fools must be taught, taught and taught" V. I. Lenin
        Z.Y. The number of Ash trees is needed, two for each strategic nuclear submarine of the United States, France and Great Britain, which will ensure a preventive non-nuclear strike with 100% destruction of the naval nuclear component of NATO countries.
        1. Abbra
          Abbra 30 July 2016 09: 58
          +14
          ... The number of Ashes required two for each strategic nuclear submarine of the USA, France and Great Britain ...

          I don’t know, I don’t know ... As far as I understand, recently we have a tendency of better quality modernizations and the introduction into the equipment already under construction that the adversary does not expect. And they have exactly what we need - an arms race, because the capitalist needs to earn money. Let them build a dozen more expensive aircraft carriers. Which will always be under the watchful eye of small "trawlers" with the same "Calibers" on board.
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          1. SPACE
            SPACE 30 July 2016 11: 03
            0
            Quote: rudolff
            We could never control every SSBN exit on patrol and we cannot even do this theoretically. From my own experience of the service, I can say that if contacts with Moose still happened periodically, then with Ohio it is extremely rare.

            And so, did you swim on the Ashen? At that time, did you have in your arsenal the same powerful SAC, the analytical power of computers and departments responsible for tracking enemy nuclear submarines, modern satellite navigation, communications and weapons? That’s why you couldn’t, even such tasks weren’t set for you, but there is no limit to perfection, especially with today's development of modern technology.
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              1. Baby doll
                Baby doll 30 July 2016 17: 06
                +1
                rudolff! Judging by the comments, you are in the Premier League topic. Tell me, please, at present, how many crews are there for each submarine, and will the Naval educational institutions be able to provide at least two crews for each, 10-20 nuclear submarines, for the construction of which some members of the forum advocate?
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                  1. NEXUS
                    NEXUS 30 July 2016 17: 33
                    +1
                    Quote: rudolff
                    Most often, the second crew was not the first line and became a "donor" for the first.

                    Either it "switches" to the newly adopted new "hardware" ... in parts or in its entirety. hi
                  2. Baby doll
                    Baby doll 30 July 2016 17: 51
                    -1
                    Quote: rudolff
                    Two crews on a submarine is a dream

                    Thanks, okay! If in Soviet times, this was a dream, but now - a pipe dream ...
                    This is me for those who want more and more nuclear submarines. But who will serve them, with whom to complete? Or is it better then, reading the materials of the next accident, the catastrophe with the boat, to find out that before going to the base station, 5, 10 or 15% of the personnel were replaced in the crew, but all this happened because of the lack of coordination of the crew?
                    All the same, we must proceed from the possibilities.
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                      1. kote119
                        kote119 30 July 2016 20: 48
                        0
                        I’ll fit a little into your conversation. So they also reduced the only specialized educational institution in the world where they graduated submarine officers (VVMUPP named after Len.Koma)
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                      3. kote119
                        kote119 1 August 2016 09: 47
                        +1
                        Rudolph, believe me no less sadly, I found the beginning of the collapse in 99, our monastery, I am a graduate of 1 faculty. You with the past holiday. Good luck and prosperity.
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                      5. kote119
                        kote119 1 August 2016 15: 06
                        0
                        thank you colleague smile
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              1. Baby doll
                Baby doll 30 July 2016 18: 21
                +2
                Quote: rudolff
                Not carried.

                Here I am about the same. When the Komsomolets sank, I was in the Murmansk region and my colleagues provided, including, let us say, some equipment, and information about what and how happened came up. But you know it better than me ...
          2. Roman 11
            Roman 11 30 July 2016 22: 51
            +1
            Quote: rudolff
            To enter the BS, it is necessary to pass the tasks of the combat training course, including with access to the areas / ranges of the BP. Then the boat is included in the campaign and becomes first-line.

            It's great to read specialists, if you were more here!
      3. SPACE
        SPACE 30 July 2016 18: 51
        -1
        Quote: rudolff
        Space, do not go into a topic that you do not understand.

        Well, what's the matter, let's politely ask the moderators to delete the comments of all those who are not "the topic", you will communicate with yourself, everyone will be interested in your professional dialogue;).
        Of course, your direct involvement in events and knowledge of the topic is very laudable. But I read your points, by the way, not by you in the first voiced so what? You offer nothing to do. In your judgments, as in the rest of the majority of local extras, there are only witness testimonies of yesterday’s being in the extreme case, which, in general, for example, is absolutely uninteresting to me. But the most important thing that could be counted on from you, as from a pro and an eyewitness, is not, at least in the form of an opinion. Namely, threats, goals and the development path of the submarine fleet, the range of tasks to be solved, opportunities, etc., moreover, clearly formulated and defined.
        The situation in the world is unhealthy and extremely dangerous, what kind of donkey will come to power in the United States and their intentions remain completely unclear, a monkey with a nuclear grenade threatens with big problems that will have to be solved sooner or later, and here's the statement of the problem. NATO countries have 90% of nuclear weapons on submarine carriers, it seems logical and the only right entry in this situation, in the use of a set of measures that allows, among other things, to preventively counter the emerging threat. By the way, the very possibility of this will be sobering. What is incomprehensible to you, if the smart one offers his own option, it will be interesting and relevant, especially since any practice is preceded by a theory, in general, anyone can take part, and especially as a practice.
        1. mr.redpartizan
          mr.redpartizan 30 July 2016 21: 41
          +1
          Even if Russia builds a hundred ash trees, it will be practically impossible to track down and destroy 5-6 ohio. Ohio carry databases in warm waters near the borders of the US PLO, their noise level is quite low, they are all protected by moose and virginia. Americans can be detected at low speed only a few kilometers away, and sinking an enemy boat before launching missiles is even more difficult. Russia needs so many ash trees to replace all boats of obsolete projects 671RTMK, 945, 945A, 949A and part of the old 971 Schuka-B. Some thirty new submarines are needed. The main objective of our Project 885 multipurpose nuclear submarines is to escort the SSBNs on the DB, destroy enemy ships / submarines in the open spaces of the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans, and launch air strikes against ground targets. The only way to protect against the Trident-2 strike is to develop missile defense systems.
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      4. Lt. Air Force stock
        Lt. Air Force stock 30 July 2016 22: 19
        0
        Quote: rudolff
        You are talking about the submarine hunting for SSBNs, and there, as there were torpedoes, they remained. By the way, with the development of new torpedoes we have some problems.

        What are the problems? A physicist has been producing for already a year, a new modification of the 2017 Case is being launched into production (replaced by Physics).
        The second and subsequent submarines are under construction on a modernized project, so everything should be better there.
    2. Roman 11
      Roman 11 30 July 2016 22: 41
      0
      Quote: SPACE
      there is no limit to perfection

      The motto of marine technology.
  • Winnie76
    Winnie76 30 July 2016 10: 50
    +3
    Quote: SPACE
    The number of Ash-trees is needed, two for each strategic nuclear submarine of the United States, France and Great Britain, which will ensure a preventive non-nuclear strike with 100% destruction of the marine nuclear component of NATO countries.

    Tell me, Cosmos. Why not five? Or say ten?
    Or maybe twenty? Or fifty at once?
    1. SPACE
      SPACE 30 July 2016 11: 25
      0
      Quote: Winnie76
      Why not five?

      Stupid question, but I’ll answer, the costs corresponding to the task, no more, will provide continuous duty and shift crews. In addition, the enemy’s strategic nuclear submarines are not on duty on guard, about half are at bases where they can be destroyed by a single nuclear strike of the same Ash-tree, the places where boats are based are limited, and locations and patrols are copied. Even half of the enemy’s destroyed submarines will lead the Pentagon to solve the difficult task of continuing or not, in any case, the presence of such boats and their number will be an important deterrent.
  • Khariton
    Khariton 30 July 2016 09: 51
    -2
    Quote: SRC P-15
    Quote: Chariton
    Well with God men! hi As the saying goes away ...

    I wonder what the user under the nickname "denker1945" will write about this, so diligently humiliating the new boat with calibers in the previous article? smile

    I think so, he will not write anything ...
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 30 July 2016 09: 55
      +2
      Quote: Chariton
      I think so, he will not write anything ...

      Well, why? Reincarnation, as I understand it, is not prohibited on our site. lol hi
      1. Denker76
        Denker76 30 July 2016 10: 13
        -4
        I am already here and ready to accept US citizenship
        1. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 30 July 2016 10: 20
          +2
          Quote: Denker76
          I am already here and ready to receive the blows of Destiny

          Chur me! Chur ...! smile
        2. Abbra
          Abbra 30 July 2016 10: 35
          -1
          So the Sad Fox has come
          take punches
          Hunters revived in VO
  • Denker76
    Denker76 30 July 2016 10: 11
    -3
    The musli in my head gets confused, I don’t understand where I am.
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 30 July 2016 10: 26
      0
      Quote: Denker76
      but the fact that diesel locomotives are put on these boats made me a little laugh, because even in China they make turbines

      We will have everything, do not rush! To release anyhow any "turbine" is not a question. The question is to make a power plant that is not inferior in TX to foreign ones.
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      3. Alex777
        Alex777 30 July 2016 12: 56
        0
        Quote: SRC P-15
        Quote: Denker76
        but the fact that diesel locomotives are put on these boats made me a little laugh, because even in China they make turbines

        We will have everything, do not rush! To release anyhow any "turbine" is not a question. The question is to make a power plant that is not inferior in TX to foreign ones.

        Dear! Why does a goat need a button accordion? That is, why does "Storm" need a turbine? With a displacement of 800 tons?
        Turbines are needed for 11356 and 22350. And for RK, diesel is the thing. We will not be equal to China. hi
  • Attsxnumx
    Attsxnumx 30 July 2016 11: 43
    0
    Where did it go? The first ash-tree has been built for more than 20 years. How hydroacoustics will be collected if the youngest specialist a year before retirement ((((
    1. Dart2027
      Dart2027 30 July 2016 12: 33
      0
      Quote: Ats73
      if the youngest specialist is a year before retirement

      Is there a source?
    2. NEXUS
      NEXUS 30 July 2016 13: 05
      +2
      Quote: Ats73
      Where did it go? The first ash-tree has been built for more than 20 years. How hydroacoustics will be collected if the youngest specialist a year before retirement ((((

      To begin with, although Severodvinsk was built for a long time, it’s the ONLY MAP of the Ash project ... the head ASH-M is Kazan. And there is a big difference between these MAPLs.
      The fact that the deadlines for the delivery of Kazan have been postponed is not critical, given that this is the head ASH-M.
      At the same time, it is already very far-sighted that they are already working on the Huskies of the MAPL project, which will be the continuation of the multi-purpose submarine projects.
  • Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov 30 July 2016 18: 46
    +1
    How many nuclear submarines and submarines are currently being built in Russia?

    12 pieces at once?

    Under construction nuclear submarines of the Russian Federation:

    1. "Prince Vladimir" (project 955A)

    2. "Prince Oleg" (project 955A)

    3. “Generalissimus Suvorov” (project 955A)

    4. “Emperor Alexander III” (project 955A)

    5. “Prince Pozharsky” (project 955A)

    6. Kazan (project 885M)

    7. "Novosibirsk" (project 885M)

    8. Krasnoyarsk (project 885M)

    9. Arkhangelsk (project 885M)

    10. Perm (project 885M)

    11. Khabarovsk (project 09851)

    12. "Belgorod" (project 09852)

    Didn’t forget anyone? smile
  • Berkut24
    Berkut24 30 July 2016 21: 19
    0
    6th out of 8 according to plan! Sixth, Karl !!! The case is drawing to a close, but it hasn't started. It started from the 2nd copy, tk. "Severodvinsk" began to be made in the early 90s.
  • EngineerP
    EngineerP 30 July 2016 22: 28
    0
    Perm region is delighted, guys! good
  • demiurg
    demiurg 30 July 2016 09: 39
    +3
    Well, why are we building Ash, Varshavyanka, Borea, and frigates and destroyers that are technologically simpler, can not?
    1. svp67
      svp67 30 July 2016 09: 49
      +4
      Quote: demiurg
      Well, why are we building Ash, Varshavyanka, Borea, and frigates and destroyers that are technologically simpler, can not?

      Yes, so far because one of the main issues is not completely resolved for frigates and destroyers - which main power plant will be installed on them. Previously, they were made in Ukraine. As soon as this issue is resolved, these ships will begin to arrive on our fleets.
    2. Dart2027
      Dart2027 30 July 2016 10: 02
      +1
      Quote: demiurg
      frigates and destroyers which are technologically simpler, cannot

      Yes, I would not say that it is easier. Perhaps the frigate will be on equal footing, but the Leader will be more complicated and much more.
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    5. NEXUS
      NEXUS 30 July 2016 14: 57
      +1
      Quote: demiurg
      Well, why are we building Ash, Varshavyanka, Borea, and frigates and destroyers that are technologically simpler, can not?

      There is simply no domestic GSU, so we are not building yet. Those are frigates of the "general's" series with previously purchased GSU.
  • mr.redpartizan
    mr.redpartizan 30 July 2016 09: 42
    +1
    Great news for the Russian Navy Day. I hope that the construction of ash trees will continue until the first submarines of the Husky project appear. We have no right to lag behind the enemy in building a modern submarine fleet.
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 30 July 2016 11: 42
      -2
      I wonder why Zelenodoltsy didn’t plan anything yesterday They promised in fact this year, in July and August, to lay down two ships of "an absolutely new project."
  • radi_nov
    radi_nov 30 July 2016 09: 44
    +2
    Navy comes out of peak
    Eugene Satanovsky & Mikhail Khodarenok: Navy, history and condition.
  • atamankko
    atamankko 30 July 2016 09: 46
    +5
    Torn to shreds economy in action.
    1. Khariton
      Khariton 30 July 2016 09: 58
      0
      Quote: atamankko
      Torn to shreds economy in action.

      Thanks to Obama! He should be awarded the Order of Merit ...
      The good president was ...!
      1. Abbra
        Abbra 30 July 2016 10: 12
        +9
        Suddenly presented Obamych retired. Moscow region. Evening bite. He sits on a stool and, holding a fishing rod in one hand and an army flask of vodka in the other, hums quietly to himself "Moscow Nights". Nearby, on a branch of a pine tree, hangs the uniform of a Russian major general with a hero's star ... Mosquitoes fly and frogs quack ...
        1. Khariton
          Khariton 30 July 2016 10: 18
          -3
          Quote: Abbra
          Suddenly presented Obamych retired. Moscow region. Evening bite. He sits on a stool and, holding a fishing rod in one hand and an army flask of vodka in the other, hums quietly to himself "Moscow Nights". Nearby, on a branch of a pine tree, hangs the uniform of a Russian major general with a hero's star ... Mosquitoes fly and frogs quack ...

          Anything can be ... bully
  • KnightRider
    KnightRider 30 July 2016 09: 56
    +2
    All types of cruise missiles including X-101/102? Yesterday on TV in a report about laying a new submarine they talked about a range of five and a half thousand kilometers, which means X-101 soldier
    1. Dart2027
      Dart2027 30 July 2016 10: 07
      +2
      Quote: KnightRider
      All types of cruise missiles including X-101/102?

      But aren't these missiles for strategic aviation? PU Caliber can be used for Onyx missiles and as expected Zircon.
    2. Yak-3P
      Yak-3P 30 July 2016 10: 50
      0
      x101-102 this is for aviation ..
    3. Wiruz
      Wiruz 30 July 2016 11: 53
      0
      All types of cruise missiles including X-101/102? Yesterday on TV in a report about laying a new submarine they talked about a range of five and a half thousand kilometers, which means X-101

      Quite possible. Even before the launch of the head submarine, information appeared about its ability to carry X-101/102 missiles.
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      2. DenZ
        DenZ 30 July 2016 19: 43
        +1
        Quote: Wiruz
        Quite possible. Even before the launch of the head submarine, information appeared about its ability to carry X-101/102 missiles.

        Information may appear as you please, but using missiles with an aircraft launch to launch from an underwater position (without grand alterations) is simply nonsense, which does not withstand any criticism.
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  • Naval
    Naval 30 July 2016 10: 18
    +1
    A good present for Navy Day. Happy holidays colleagues !!! drinks
  • Zomanus
    Zomanus 30 July 2016 10: 19
    +1
    "Ash" is my favorite project, even when the news about it appeared.
    This is the same as the MRK, but only under water and go around the world.
    But for such a project, "Caliber" is certainly not enough.
    But "Yakhont" and / or "Zircon" is just right for him, yes.
    1. kote119
      kote119 30 July 2016 11: 36
      +3
      yakhont is an export version of onyx (truncated by technical characteristics), and onyxes as part of its armament are already available
  • alexmach
    alexmach 30 July 2016 10: 36
    0
    As the name of the merchants of the Stroganovs, revered in the south of Pomerania and in the Perm Territory, connects us, ”said Igor Orlov, Governor of the Arkhangelsk Region.


    Is he sick with you there? Or have you really started to read the huckster?
    1. Abbra
      Abbra 30 July 2016 11: 20
      +2
      Read the story. The Stroganovs have done so much for Russia that it is time for them to erect monuments. And do not confuse advanced Russian merchants with modern hucksters, Mr. Proletarian.
      1. Pitot
        Pitot 30 July 2016 11: 43
        +1
        I do not know. The Stroganovs have a very dark story .... People have been transferred to darkness ... for what are the monuments? .....
        1. Abbra
          Abbra 30 July 2016 12: 18
          +1
          Yes, at least for the fact that they fully sponsored the expedition of Ermak, thanks to which Russia grew Western Siberia ....
  • Denker76
    Denker76 30 July 2016 10: 36
    +1
    Denker76 -without a fox, not a real imposter !!!
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 30 July 2016 10: 40
      +1
      Quote: Denker76
      Denker76 -without a fox, not a real imposter !!!

      Not tired?
    2. D. Dan
      D. Dan 30 July 2016 11: 01
      -5
      Someone has lured your password into that account, change the password quickly, and do so the letter is a number and at least 15 characters
      1. D. Dan
        D. Dan 30 July 2016 18: 13
        -2
        What for nerds, you for what minnesuya ???
        Admins, do not delete comments I myself will fight liberoids !!!
        1. D. Dan
          D. Dan 31 July 2016 10: 22
          0
          I don’t understand anything! Gave good advice to the person who was hacked, got four minuses. For what?
  • Denker76
    Denker76 30 July 2016 10: 39
    0
    Hey, who is the tama from my honest name and avatar? -It is better to write a narcologist
  • D. Dan
    D. Dan 30 July 2016 10: 56
    -3
    Happy Navy, ento races, and two, maybe more Ash-trees, good and different!
    1. Abbra
      Abbra 30 July 2016 11: 33
      0
      Thank you for the congratulations! For Russian - 2.
      1. D. Dan
        D. Dan 30 July 2016 15: 10
        -2
        Gramar Natsik, I will know. By the way, I am a writer, there are several books, any dictation without errors;)
  • Wiruz
    Wiruz 30 July 2016 11: 51
    +1
    The laying of an Ash-class submarine is, of course, good. But ... I'm the only one worried by the fact that it was originally planned to build eight submarines of this project by 2020? Then the truth began to talk about seven submarines, but at the same time. It's not like frigates here, it's impossible to write off everything on the non-delivery of Ukrainian engines.

    Or what, the tradition of constantly postponing the tabs / descent / acceptance of ships no one bothers me?
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      1. DenZ
        DenZ 30 July 2016 19: 50
        0
        Well, yes, yes, there are many problems. But there are no problems only for those who do nothing. Good luck to our engineers and stable financing.
      2. chenia
        chenia 30 July 2016 22: 46
        0
        Quote: rudolff
        The percentage of novelty in sub-series M will be even higher. Boreas was generally suspended in construction because of the Bulava. Lada has the main hemorrhoids with GEM. And this despite the fact that VNEU is not burdened. Until now, experienced and the prospects are hazy. It's easier to start a new project. Gorshkov has weapons. Fit for service in the "castrated" version


        Rudolph I believe that you are in the subject, but without details. I ended up serving the service for more than a couple of decades and the trackman, practically did not fit above the SS documents. But so far I don’t tell anyone the names of faculties and departments of educational institutions (or slightly distorting them), except with the servicemen. Even chipboard information should not be disclosed.

        Or, on the contrary, you drive a desu.
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  • Phosgene
    Phosgene 30 July 2016 13: 14
    0
    It would be better to make every effort to ensure that the completion of those ships. The construction of which has already begun
  • Attsxnumx
    Attsxnumx 30 July 2016 14: 05
    0
    Quote: Dart2027
    Quote: Ats73
    if the youngest specialist is a year before retirement

    Is there a source?

    relatives, youth seemed to come, but there is no experience yet.
    1. Dart2027
      Dart2027 30 July 2016 15: 23
      0
      Experience is a gain, only when they say that "the youngest specialist is a year before retirement", it is usually implied that there are no others at all, and this is a completely different matter.
  • Attsxnumx
    Attsxnumx 30 July 2016 14: 43
    0
    Quote: NEXUS
    Quote: Ats73
    Where did it go? The first ash-tree has been built for more than 20 years. How hydroacoustics will be collected if the youngest specialist a year before retirement ((((

    To begin with, although Severodvinsk was built for a long time, it’s the ONLY MAP of the Ash project ... the head ASH-M is Kazan. And there is a big difference between these MAPLs.
    The fact that the deadlines for the delivery of Kazan have been postponed is not critical, given that this is the head ASH-M.
    At the same time, it is already very far-sighted that they are already working on the Huskies of the MAPL project, which will be the continuation of the multi-purpose submarine projects.

    I agree, there is a big difference between Ash and Ash-M, even if even electronics has stepped far. And I am very happy and proud that we are moving off the ground and the army and navy are being revived. But I'm talking about the problem with frames !!! In a year, the person who collects (if I may say so) on these boats the SAC will retire. Young people have come and it seems that they are even somehow paying (although for me it is not clear how you can live in the metropolis with this money), but the generation gap is simply enormous. If in programming youth is at their best, then with iron everything is complicated. And when the HAC was developed and tested, this youth was still not close. But I didn’t hear anything about Husky, I won’t speak.
    1. dvina71
      dvina71 30 July 2016 16: 59
      +1
      Quote: Ats73
      rez year will retire a person who collects (so to speak) on these boats

      Where does this nonsense come from? Do you yourself believe that?
      Every year, dozens of warships and submarines are built and put into operation, everyone has a SAC / GAS ... and what .. does this pensioner wander around all shipyards and arrange sonar there?
      1. Attsxnumx
        Attsxnumx 30 July 2016 19: 51
        0
        Ask yourself the question which institution designed and performed installation and commissioning of the State Joint-Stock Company in Yasen, Borey. At the same time on the modernization of the Dolphins? and much more !!! Then find out the situation with the staff in this institution and you will write about nonsense later))) when you sit on the anniversary and most of the 60, somehow (((((and about what dozens of nuclear submarines are we talking about ??
        1. dvina71
          dvina71 30 July 2016 20: 10
          0
          Quote: Ats73
          Ask yourself the question which institution designed and performed installation and commissioning of the State Joint-Stock Company in Yasen, Borey. At the same time on the modernization of the Dolphins? and much more

          You see what’s the matter .. if I really try to find out, then my, albeit not selfish motives, will not help me in any way. And I sit .. five years .. for extra curiosity.
          Where do you get the data from? Have you already been away?
        2. dvina71
          dvina71 30 July 2016 20: 38
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          Quote: Ats73
          What dozens of submarines are we talking about?

          Would you need to buy glasses .., where did I write about apl? Ah ... damn ... understood ... you only put on the submarine HAK .., and Varshavyanka ... so ... into the blind and stick in the underwater kingdom.
          JSC Concern Oceanpribor
          1. Attsxnumx
            Attsxnumx 30 July 2016 21: 26
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            Well, since the dialogue started in this way, then buy glasses yourself. I have not written anywhere that "a pensioner runs around all the factories of the country" it was about Ash !! and the article deals with the construction of 7 Yasen-class nuclear submarines. Although, as you say, the pinseoner does not get out of business trips and leads several projects (((and with fake medical certificates for diving he walks with a sore heart, because there is no one (((and how do I know, read my previous posts, it says there !!
            1. dvina71
              dvina71 30 July 2016 22: 03
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              Quote: Ats73
              how do I know, so read my previous posts, it says there !!

              What you wrote is OBS.
              One person can’t physically assemble the SAC, not even the MPK, not like on the 855/955 nuclear submarine.
              But even if you try to understand your rumors .., it turns out: your pensioner .., the only one in the whole country is to wander from St. Petersburg, where they mount the MGK-636M on 400, then mount the ZAK / Zvezda HAC on pr. 22350 .. from there fly to Kaliningrad, there is also Dawn .., and from there rush to Severodvinsk .. Where there are five nuclear submarines in construction .. and there, too, must be mounted .. a very complex, multi-level HAK .. And how does he manage to do all this? Superman? .. Oh yeah ... still on the Far East, he needs to be wrapped, there is also something to mount there.
              1. Attsxnumx
                Attsxnumx 30 July 2016 23: 01
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                senseless argument (((I didn’t say a word about surface ships, but you put it all together. What do they have to do with it? I want to think that everything is fine, think and consider that it is so! It was specifically for Ash-tree. And that is a problem with the staff !!! I have no doubt that there are no irreplaceable ones. But about the windings all over the country, where are the submarines built besides Sevmash? And how many of them were built after the collapse of the Union? ((
                1. dvina71
                  dvina71 31 July 2016 00: 52
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                  Quote: Ats73
                  I didn’t say a word about surface ships,

                  Yes, by and large you did not say anything at all. Carry outright nonsense.
                  Fundamentally, HACs on submarines and NK are no different. At 955 it costs the same Amphora as at 855 .. Where are pensioners getting all this? Can you answer? Who is currently engaged in the installation of the Hack on several surface ships and several submarines?
                  1. Attsxnumx
                    Attsxnumx 31 July 2016 01: 20
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                    You carry Aachenia dear. there is no Amphora on 955 !! and in general the first three Boreas were blinded from what it was, but on 955A it should appear after mining in Severodvinsk. Of course, the surface and submarine hulls are no different, but why did they build a floating laboratory under an ash-tree from a decommissioned strategist to test the hull. What for everything? how many were built for the entire time of the submarine after the collapse of the Union? you never answered. You don’t intend to prove that white is white, you think that a crowd of specialists is working on the submarine at Morphispribor, you have the flag in your hands ... and I would be glad if this were so!
                    1. dvina71
                      dvina71 31 July 2016 02: 29
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                      Quote: Ats73
                      You carry Aachenia dear. there is no Amphora at 955 !!

                      So after that, what to talk about with you?

                      SJSC MGK-600B "Irtysh-Amphora-B" ("Irtysh-Amphora-Borey") of a new generation developed by the Central Research Institute "Morfizpribor" (Concern "Oceanpribor", St. Petersburg, R&D 1980-1987, produced by plant "Priboy") consisting of:
                      - conformal large-sized main antenna "Amphora" with digital signal processing using digital libraries of the automatic target classification system "Ajax-M"; According to unconfirmed reports, the GAS "Skat-09551M" is installed on the submarine of pr.3, the use of the GAS "Irtysh-Amphora-B" is expected on the submarine of pr.09552. GAS "Stak-3M" is a modified main antenna GAS "Skat-3" (used on PLA pr.971) combined with the hardware and information part of the "Irtysh-Afmora-B" complex, including optical columnar information transmission lines and a durable capsule with equipment for primary information processing.
                      - large conformal side antennas;
                      - towed HAS antenna in the fairing of the vertical tail of the submarine.

                      The prototype of the SAC was tested on the experimental submarine K-403 "Kazan" pr.09780 "Axon-2" in 1998. Installation of the 1st, 2nd and 3rd levels of SJSC "Irtysh-Amphora" on the lead submarine was probably carried out at PO "Sevmash" from February 2005 to July 2006. During 2008, at PO "Sevmash" from Taganrog plant "Priboy" supplied devices 1E and 1M4 SJSC "Irtysh-Amphora-Borey". In 2009, it was planned to manufacture at the Taganrog plant "Priboy" with the delivery to PO "Sevmash" of the device 1MK GAK for installation on the submarine factory # 202 K-550 "Alexander Nevsky". In 2010, the Priboy plant supplied to the Sevmash PA a set of devices of the first stage for the submarine factory # 203 Vladimir Monomakh.
                    2. dvina71
                      dvina71 31 July 2016 02: 36
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                      Quote: Ats73
                      generally the first three Boreas blinded from what was

                      Nonsense again. Used backlog from unfinished boats. Do you know what that means? If you have no idea how the nuclear submarines are standing, I explain. Metal is cut first. FOR THE WHOLE SERIES !!! Because rebuilding equipment for cutting parts on each individual case is long and expensive.
                      Well, well ... it’s obvious that in the 90s the construction of nuclear submarines at our NSR stalled. The chopped metal remained. So it was used, re-cutting into new parts, for pr 955. This is normal practice, in contrast to the installation of waste batteries on pr 949 Kursk.
                      1. Attsxnumx
                        Attsxnumx 31 July 2016 11: 05
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                        According to unconfirmed reports, the GAS "Skat-09551M" is installed on the submarine of pr.3, the use of the GAS "Irtysh-Amphora-B" is expected on the submarine of pr.09552. You would at least figure out what you printed yourself ((what is pr 09551? These are the first three 955s !! Yuri Dolgoruky, Alexander Nevsky, Vladimir Monomakh and Skat from the third generation is on them, but on all 955A there should be Amphora. Well if I write nonsense all the time !!! then take respected glasses and look at the photo of the 955s, there are a lot of them and I think you will find torpedo tubes in the nose compartments !!! there is nowhere to put Amphora !!!
                      2. Attsxnumx
                        Attsxnumx 31 July 2016 11: 10
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                        Since the end of the 1980s, the SSBN was designed for Project 955 as a two-shaft SSBN similar in design to Project 667BDRM DELTA-IV with a reduced height of SLBM silos for the Bark missile system. According to this project, the submarine, factory # 201, was laid down in 1996. In 1998, it was decided to abandon the Bark SLBM in favor of the Bulava SLBM with different dimensions, which led to the redesign of the submarine. At the same time, it became clear that the submarine could not be completed within a reasonable timeframe in the face of reduced funding and in the conditions of the collapse of the USSR and the termination of supplies of specific grades of rolled metal from the Zaporozhye Steel Plant (Ukraine), there was a proposal to redesign also for the use of the backlog for unfinished submarines pr .971 and pr.949A / 949M.

                        It is also possible that the reserve for SSGN pr.885 "Ash" was used. From the latter, the propulsion unit was taken in Project 955, which had already been worked out on the submarine of Project 877V "Alrosa". This assumption has not yet been confirmed by anything in terms of using the groundwork and ideology of pr.885, nor has it been refuted.

                        As of May 2011, it is known that starting from the 4th hull of Project 955 (conditionally Project 09554) the shape of the boat's hull will be changed - it will be closer to the initial appearance of Project 955. Probably, the boats will be built without using the backlog from the Project 971 submarine. In the bow compartments of the SSBN, it is planned to abandon the double-hull with the placement of the antenna device of the Irtysh-Amphora SJSC in the nose. The extended body antennas of the SAC will also be used. The torpedo tubes will be moved closer to the center of the hull and become onboard, the forward rudders will be moved to the wheelhouse. In the area of ​​SLBM mines, it is planned to reduce the size of the permeable superstructure. The number of mines is planned to be increased to 20. The power plant will probably also be modernized towards unification with other submarines of the 4th generation - it is planned to use a new steam generating plant. In fact, we are talking about a new SSBN project.
  • D. Dan
    D. Dan 30 July 2016 15: 12
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    One such boat is practically Gutbai America.
    1. mr.redpartizan
      mr.redpartizan 30 July 2016 21: 50
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      Goodbye America is 2-3 boats of the Borey type, and ash is goodbye Poland or Germany.
  • xant
    xant 30 July 2016 17: 09
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    RPKSN K-535 Yuri Dolgoruky transferred - 29.12.12
    RPKSN K-550 Alexander Nevsky transferred -23.12.13
    SSBN K-551 Vladimir Monomakh transferred 10.12.14
    APKR K-560 Severodvinsk transferred -30.12.13

    Construction of new SSBNs and APKR!
    1 . “Prince Vladimir” (project 955A) tab - 30.07.2012/2018/XNUMX broadcast XNUMX


    2. “Prince Oleg” (project 955A), bookmark - 27/07/2014, transmission in 2019?

    3. "Generalissimus Suvorov" (project 955A) bookmark - 26.12.2014/2019/XNUMX transmission -XNUMX?

    4. “Emperor Alexander III” (project 955A), tab 18. 12 .2015 transmission 2020?

    5. “Prince Pozharsky” (project 955A) bookmark 31.07/2016/2020? (Promise) transfer XNUMX?

    6. “Kazan” (project 885M); bookmark 24.07.09, 2017 broadcast.
    7. K-573 “Novosibirsk” (project 885M), bookmark 26.07.13 transfer 2020

    8. K-571 "Krasnoyarsk" (project 885M), bookmark 27.07.14/2021/XNUMX, transmission XNUMX

    9. K-564 "Arkhangelsk" (project 885M), bookmark 19.03.15/2022/XNUMX, broadcast XNUMX

    10. К- (..?) “Perm” (project 885M), bookmark 29.07.16/2023/XNUMX, broadcast XNUMX

    11. PLASN- “Khabarovsk” (project 09851) bookmark 27.07/2014/XNUMX and all the same rumors (each next rumor is cooler than the other)

    12. PLASN "Belgorod" (project 09852) bookmark -? (2015)
    you can safely shift the deadlines by one year or two by strategists and by ash, they are already officially shifted.
    but the work is on and it pleases! By 2020, the flywheel will spin.
    PS- I wanted this to go on with the surface fleet, but alas, while it lags behind.
  • Kudrevkn
    Kudrevkn 30 July 2016 17: 27
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    What wonderful gifts for our most popular holiday - Navy Day! Thank you, shipbuilders are the heroic rear workers forging the weapons of Victory! On our wonderful holiday, we congratulate not only all who serve the sea, serve Russia! We congratulate and drink to the health of all Russians, all our foreign friends! For there are an order of magnitude more good and kind people than bad ones! Glory to the Russian Navy, Glory to our mother Russia !!!!
  • Old26
    Old26 30 July 2016 18: 56
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    Quote: SPACE
    where they can be destroyed by one nuclear strike of the same Ashen,

    And you have to understand all the same "Caliber"? With a range of 2500 km? And the Americans will be 3 hours mumu ... pull the tail and not shoot? Again grunting
    1. SPACE
      SPACE 30 July 2016 19: 21
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      Quote: Old26
      And you have to understand all the same "Caliber"? With a range of 2500 km? And the Americans will be 3 hours mumu ... pull the tail and not shoot? Again grunting

      Before you comment, at least turn on the brain. You have to shoot first and at a distance from the border of neutral waters, and maybe closer.
      Quote: Old26
      Fuss again

      I suggest you go there, you yourself know where ...
    2. dvina71
      dvina71 30 July 2016 22: 09
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      Quote: Old26
      Americans will be 3 hours mumu ... pull the tail and do not shoot? Fuss again

      In fairness ... I must say that more recently, they demonstrated this.
      Remember when the American esm cut Wise. He did it in line of sight from Avik. Tell me ... when did he go to intercept our TFR? When did you see him without optics? When was it?
  • Old26
    Old26 30 July 2016 20: 38
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    Quote: SPACE
    Before you comment, at least turn on the brain. You have to shoot first and at a distance from the border of neutral waters, and maybe closer.

    Turn it on yourself. In a state when the conflict is about to unleash, when the armies of both sides are ready for war (such a period has always been, is and will be) will the Americans allow an enemy submarine at a distance of 2 tens of kilometers from their naval base? If the AUG has a control zone of a hundred or two kilometers, then in the base area this distance will be slightly larger. PLO among the Americans has not been canceled. so turn on the brain yourself and don’t come up with what cannot be. So feel free to multiply 2 tens of kilometers by 10. And in 20 minutes, subsonic missiles can be destroyed, and missiles with SSBNs will be able to start.
    1. Kudrevkn
      Kudrevkn 30 July 2016 21: 38
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      You both, in my opinion, are raving with Mr. Cosmos - well, what are two dozen kilometers? Detect the range of a working boat GAS or a phased array on a periscope, get on like panties in a bathhouse? Great strategists - sailors, damn it ... On the eve of Saint for us, sailors, Holiday and bark like homeless dogs at a beerhouse for a naked bone? Oh no no no? Not good, gentlemen officers, ashamed - sir! You carefully read the article and do not quarrel anymore! Happy Holiday!
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