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Created a prototype of an armored car "Tiger" with 6-th protection class

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Experts of the Military Industrial Company created a prototype of the Tiger-6А armored car with a sixth level of protection, it reports TASS message of the representative of the company Sergey Suvorov.




“Now we have a prototype“ Tiger-6А ”with the sixth protection class, and in the future we will focus on this protection class when developing machines. In addition, we are now working on increasing the load capacity of the machine to 2 tons, "- said Suvorov.

According to him, now, according to the specifications, the car must withstand a blast under the bottom of 600 grams of TNT.

“In the future, it is planned to increase this indicator to 2 kg,” added Suvorov.

He recalled that the "standard equipment" Tiger "has a third class of protection according to GOST, and a special armored version of the car - the fifth."

The interviewee also said that the “Tigers” are currently being exploited in 10 countries of the world.

“Today we supply Tigr to various countries. This machine is operated in ten states, including Belarus, Armenia, Kazakhstan, Tajikistan, China, Congo, Uruguay, and so on, ”he said.

Photos used:
Alexey Panshin / TASS
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  1. Karelof
    Karelof 28 July 2016 12: 26
    +7
    If they bring protection to 2kg of trotyl and increase the carrying capacity, then how much will this machine weigh. Apparently a new motor will have to be installed, but with us it’s not very suitable for this class of cars ....
    1. Juborg
      Juborg 28 July 2016 12: 36
      +4
      If he now "has to withstand 600 gr spent," then what did he withstand before? It’s not clear. As it is all muddy and tense with performance characteristics. In the video presented, they showed almost a tank, and a video on YouTube from October 2015, and today it seems to withstand up to 600 grams. What is it like?
      1. Vulkan raven
        Vulkan raven 28 July 2016 13: 39
        +5
        Initially, he had to withstand the explosion of a hand grenade or 200 grams of TNT under the bottom. Now on Tigre-M this figure has been increased to 600 grams. On modernization should increase to 2 kilogram.
        1. Maksus
          Maksus 28 July 2016 20: 53
          -3
          And will the soldiers be upgraded too? To prevent barotrauma or fractures, belts will not protect from two kg.
          1. Vulkan raven
            Vulkan raven 28 July 2016 22: 36
            0
            Comprehensive mine protection measures (a multi-layer bottom with anti-mine pallets, a multi-layer case, reinforced doors and bulletproof glass, bolt locks with measures for protection against RCBMs, mine chairs, footboards) prevent this kind of injury. Barotraumas are generally excluded by preventing blast wave inflow and protecting the occurrence of a secondary shock wave.
            1. Maksus
              Maksus 29 July 2016 09: 32
              +1
              Yes Yes. 2 kilo of trotyl - generally will not affect, to love.
      2. Byshido_dis
        Byshido_dis 28 July 2016 13: 50
        +4
        In any case, no one will simply say real performance characteristics for our aircraft. So here the big question is how much even the first tiger holds ...
    2. Pavel1
      Pavel1 28 July 2016 12: 44
      +2
      This video is already old - does not correspond to the news ...
    3. vkl.47
      vkl.47 28 July 2016 12: 49
      +1
      suppose he can withstand a 2kg blast. I wonder how high he’ll throw him. Of course, ideally I would like even 12.7 to not be able to break through the car. but ideally, the chassis will already be from the truck. like a Kamaz “shot”
    4. Vend
      Vend 28 July 2016 12: 52
      +1
      Quote: Karelof
      If they bring protection to 2kg of trotyl and increase the carrying capacity, then how much will this machine weigh. Apparently a new motor will have to be installed, but with us it’s not very suitable for this class of cars ....

      Chip "Tiger" in the cast case. Other cars of this class use a riveted version. They can improve the composition of the steel.
    5. TUNISIA
      TUNISIA 28 July 2016 12: 53
      +1
      And in KAMAZ which engines are?
      1. Scoun
        Scoun 28 July 2016 14: 40
        +1
        Quote: TUNISIA
        And in KAMAZ which engines are?

        I don’t know what engines they have, but Kamaz-4911 is my favorite.
        There is a video where he flies on the highway 160 km / h bypassing cars.
        1. Maksus
          Maksus 28 July 2016 20: 52
          0
          And there’s also a video where the ice rink sweeps past parked cars. 160 per hour, ha, go to the Ring Road, there is at least 200 spy ...
    6. Alexey-74
      Alexey-74 28 July 2016 13: 20
      +2
      The video is old. Now, as far as I know, there is a production of machines withstanding up to 800-900 gr. TNT. And to facilitate a lot of composites
      1. Monarchist
        Monarchist 28 July 2016 21: 06
        0
        I'm not an expert, but in my opinion 800-900g of TNT is pretty serious.
    7. Vulkan raven
      Vulkan raven 28 July 2016 13: 34
      +2
      Now the Tiger can have a gross mass of over 8 tons, 215 hp while he is quite enough. At the same time, the engine has the potential to upgrade to 240 and 300 hp.
    8. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 28 July 2016 14: 13
      0
      the abundance of prototypes is amazing ... when will they settle down? which already was not ...
    9. KCA
      KCA 28 July 2016 15: 23
      +1
      KAMAZ-Cummins will help
  2. Smoked
    Smoked 28 July 2016 12: 32
    +3
    Also add protection against RPGs, then caterpillars for patency and a bigger gun!
    1. Maksus
      Maksus 28 July 2016 12: 48
      +13
      And it will be right here)))
    2. VSZMK
      VSZMK 28 July 2016 12: 51
      +2
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      tracks for patency and a bigger gun!

      This will be the German "Tiger"!
  3. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 28 July 2016 12: 35
    +2
    Then it will be a mini-armored car. And it will hold heavy. And the engine will already be under 300 hp.
    In general, 2 kg of TNT is no longer a joke.
    1. Vik66
      Vik66 28 July 2016 12: 38
      +1
      Then it will be maksibronevichok ... smile
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    3. Monarchist
      Monarchist 28 July 2016 21: 08
      0
      Even 800 grams is already serious.
  4. engineering
    engineering 28 July 2016 12: 38
    +2
    Impressive creative success for the technical staff of the Arzamas Engineering Plant.
  5. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 28 July 2016 12: 38
    +1
    A prototype Tiger-6A armored car with a sixth level of protection was created

    Obviously at the request of the customer. Kohl plan to release means it is calculated.
  6. Predator-74
    Predator-74 28 July 2016 12: 43
    +2
    Smart guys tell me what is included in the 6th class of protection? (Reluctant to surf the Internet). In addition, there is an opportunity to "show off the scales" for the plus signs. :)
    1. ISSIDOR
      ISSIDOR 28 July 2016 13: 01
      +2
      By analogy with body armor, it can withstand a shot of 7.62 / 54 caliber and similar ammunition in power.
      1. Gray brother
        Gray brother 28 July 2016 13: 14
        0
        Quote: ISSIDOR
        By analogy with body armor, it can withstand a shot of 7.62 / 54 caliber and similar ammunition in power.

        For technology, it is also protection against fragments of artillery shells - it’s not a bronic armor, you don’t need to drag it on yourself.
      2. poquello
        poquello 28 July 2016 15: 01
        +1
        Quote: ISSIDOR
        By analogy with body armor, it can withstand a shot of 7.62 / 54 caliber and similar ammunition in power.

        this is 3 class, 6 this is SVD with a bullet ST-M2
  7. vadimtt
    vadimtt 28 July 2016 12: 52
    0
    The total mass of 6 tons is approximately, 2 kg of TNT will not hold, in the sense of beyond the limit accelerations for the crew are provided, it is either to lift up to 12-15 tons or to do something like promising import developments on explosive accelerators. The first is pointless, the second is supposed to be mogu, the legs are growing out of space with its pyro-bolts / soft landing systems.
    1. ProkletyiPirat
      ProkletyiPirat 28 July 2016 14: 27
      0
      there are simpler means ... for example, letting the shock wave to the side ... but you can always lay N times more TNT ... so it's silly to complicate the car excessively ...
  8. mr.redpartizan
    mr.redpartizan 28 July 2016 13: 12
    -2
    600 grams of explosives is very small. The machine is quite large and heavy, should provide a good level of protection against small arms fire of medium caliber and small IEDs. Good luck to the developers of the plant.
  9. Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 28 July 2016 13: 19
    +6
    Hmm ... I understand correctly: in 2016, the level of protection of the experienced "Tiger" was brought to the level of the serial "Lynx"? what
    For two days, Russian specialists carried out specialized shelling of IVECO with B-32 armor-piercing incendiary bullets using a 7,62x54 caliber ballistic barrel. It was from such ammunition that the manufacturer guaranteed full protection according to the third level of STANAG 4569 (it corresponds to the Russian 6a class of ballistic protection according to GOST R 50963-96). The shelling was carried out from different distances in various places of the car: joints of armored panels, glass edges, in order to find vulnerabilities. On the first day, 150 shots were fired, on the second - about 60. Not a single penetration was achieved.
    (...)
    Then, two IVECO car explosions were carried out: under the front left wheel and under the bottom.
    On the first day, 6.14 kg of TNT were used as an explosive device (updated data). The process of detonation was shot from different angles by several cameras, which were installed including inside the car. On the driver's seat was a special mannequin that completely mimics the human body.
    The explosion destroys the front suspension, severely damages the engine, but the armored capsule is intact. The hatch is intentionally designed to swing open during an explosion and thereby protect the crew from excessive pressure. Inside the car, damage is limited to an offset steering column (there was no contact with the driver) and plastic chips from the front panel.
    Inspection showed that the dummy driver, who was closest to the explosion point, was not injured, only a flying piece of a panel slightly torn his pants and cut his leg below the knee. The sensors record that there was no excess of the overload limit for the human body.
    © twower
    1. vadimtt
      vadimtt 28 July 2016 13: 37
      0
      If this is the blast that is on YouTube, then he does not pull 6kg of TNT. Maximum kilo.
      Well, regarding the fact that in Afghanistan and on large charges the willows were blown up and people survived - this is like a war in a war, anything can happen.
      I could be wrong of course.
    2. Vulkan raven
      Vulkan raven 28 July 2016 13: 42
      +2
      A tiger with 6A protection class (with an all-metal casing) was made back in 2011, now it is planned to make modernized machines with this protection class.

      Pottery (like Lynx) on the Tiger could have been installed for a long time, but this was considered a very expensive solution.
    3. Grenader
      Grenader 28 July 2016 14: 29
      0
      Quote: Alexey RA
      Hmm ... I understand correctly: in 2016, the level of protection of the experienced "Tiger" was brought to the level of the serial "Lynx"?

      Initially, "Tiger" was designed with a lower protection class and is inferior to "Iveco" only in this parameter. Why only now is this a question for the designers. Competition in this case is in our favor - the army can get a more functional vehicle with adequate body armor.
      1. Elephant
        Elephant 28 July 2016 15: 28
        +1
        "Why is it just now a question for the designers." Because they can't make a normal car from one go. Second - it is profitable for our designers - after that they upgrade as long as possible, getting money for it and at the same time not straining too much! There is an even easier way (Chinese) - to disassemble the same Iveka, Hamer and others, take everything that is best and mold your unit.
        1. mr.redpartizan
          mr.redpartizan 28 July 2016 16: 47
          +1
          And this is the most correct way. It is necessary to use the best solutions in this area of ​​automotive technology, combining them with domestic developments. The tiger should in no way be inferior to the IVECO armored car, because created later.
  10. Olegmog
    Olegmog 28 July 2016 19: 46
    0
    The pursuit of increased protection of the tiger will lead to
    that he will become a competitor to the Urals and Kamaz.
    The armor is heavier, the engine power is greater, and so on and so on!
    Tigers and Hamers yesterday !!!
  11. Victor Wolz
    Victor Wolz 28 July 2016 20: 39
    0
    The sixth class of defense would suit Wolf, it’s time to transfer to them. how much you can refine and test them.
  12. Monarchist
    Monarchist 28 July 2016 21: 19
    0
    I didn’t hear about the Wolf, but in general, in the opinion of the amateur: the Tiger or the Lynx is important,
  13. Victor Wolz
    Victor Wolz 29 July 2016 19: 46
    0
    Full weight: 7500 — 11500 kg
    Wheel formula: 4 × 4 or 6 × 6
    Suspension: Independent Hydropneumatic Suspension [3]
    Clearance: Changeable from 250 to 550 mm
    Armor: Ballistic Defense 6a
    Mine protection - 2 protection class STANAG 4569 (6 kg of explosives)

    Engine: YaMZ-5347-20 4,4 L power: 190, 240 hp
    standard: Euro-4

    Load capacity: 1,5 — 4,5 T
    Landing: 8 — 18 people.
    Maximum speed: 120 km / h
    Power reserve: 1000 km
    Wading depth: 1,5 m