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“Kommersant”: the Ministry of Defense has ordered new satellites for the new space reconnaissance system

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The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation is planning to deploy an optical-electronic reconnaissance system, the basis of which will be the newest space satellites of the Hrazdan type, reports Kommersant with reference to a source in the DIC.




“Information in open sources about devices of this type is extremely small. For example, the “product 14F156” appears in yesterday’s procurement plan for goods, works and services on the Progress official website. It is also known that in July 2015, the company ordered a study, the purpose of which was to identify the imported and discontinued electronic component base used in the onboard equipment of the 14ФН156 product, as well as components subject to "export restrictions", - the newspaper writes.

According to Kommersant's data, Hrazdan-type satellites are the next-generation optical-electronic reconnaissance vehicles. It is they who will replace the Persona-type satellites now operating in orbit. ”

As the source noted, “according to its characteristics,“ Hrazdan ”will be head and shoulders above all its predecessors: a fundamentally new payload will appear, a high-speed radio channel with additional protection.”

According to him, “a new telescope with a diameter of more than 2 will be installed on the third and subsequent devices, for which the Zverev Krasnogorsk plant will create optics”.

It is assumed that the launch of the first “Hrazdan” will be carried out from the Plesetsk cosmodrome in 2019. The second and third - in the 2022 and 2024, respectively.

“If there are any problems with“ Persons ”or the terms of delivery of Hrazdan shift (for example, due to problems with import substitution of components), then there will be no serious problems: in this case, their functions will be partially taken over by civilian apparatuses,” the source said.
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  1. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 28 July 2016 10: 55
    +1
    Oh, how many satellites are circling over the wounded Donbass. Moreover, satellites from different countries ...
    1. Observer2014
      Observer2014 28 July 2016 11: 06
      +5
      Lord of the Sith hi (2)
      Oh, how many satellites are circling over the wounded Donbass. Moreover, satellites from different countries ...
      Yeah and no one, not what does not see. repeat
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 28 July 2016 11: 13
        +7
        Here is the reason for launching new satellites:
        "The Russian military operation in Syria has shown that the two currently available satellites of the previous generation are not enough, which is why the Ministry of Defense has to involve civilian devices."
        http://www.interfax.ru/tags/%D0%E0%E7%E4%E0%ED
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 28 July 2016 15: 24
          +2
          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          Here is the reason for launching new satellites:
          "The Russian military operation in Syria has shown that the two currently available satellites of the previous generation are not enough, which is why the Ministry of Defense has to involve civilian devices."

          This is understandable. The satellite group had to be strengthened both qualitatively and quantitatively for a long time. China is stepping on our heels in terms of the number of satellites, and this cannot be allowed. Without satellite reconnaissance and missiles, they won’t fly where they need to and how they should, neither the VKS with the ships will effectively carry out their tasks.
      2. Lord_Bran
        Lord_Bran 28 July 2016 12: 56
        +3
        We bet the States will scream about a "new threat from space", express concern and declare the creation of a new program on anti-satellite weapons?
    2. Berkut24
      Berkut24 28 July 2016 11: 47
      +4
      So Ukraine wanted to take money for the passage of satellites over the territory of the country. Have you still not found the money to launch comic customs?
      1. pafegosoff
        pafegosoff 28 July 2016 12: 18
        +1
        Well, they looked across the globe of Ukraine ... Fly over the globe ...
        They do not respond to requests. I had to use ASAT-2. Four flies were killed.
      2. Byshido_dis
        Byshido_dis 28 July 2016 13: 54
        +1
        In Ukraine, everything is serious! The photo shows a real prototype of the Ukrainian military cosmo-fat-chewing!
  2. BARKAS
    BARKAS 28 July 2016 10: 57
    +3
    As the source noted, “in terms of its characteristics, Hrazdan will be head and shoulders above all its predecessors: a fundamentally new payload will appear

    Is there a bomb? wink
    1. Denis DV
      Denis DV 28 July 2016 11: 03
      +7
      Automatic arm manipulator and roomy bag for collecting enemy satellites laughing
      1. Yura
        Yura 28 July 2016 11: 26
        +2
        Quote: Denis DV
        Automatic arm manipulator and

        "Two, no three" manipulators, one contains a slingshot, the other picks up enemy satellites and shoots them into other enemy satellites with a precisely calculated cannon, after which they fly into the atmosphere with enthusiasm, but the third manipulator rotating in all directions constantly shows the middle finger ... But seriously, the change of generation of reconnaissance satellites, technology and science is moving so that it seems that the previous ones were launched just yesterday, and here you are with new ones.
      2. Skifotavr
        Skifotavr 28 July 2016 15: 20
        +2
        Quote: Denis DV
        Automatic arm manipulator and roomy bag for collecting enemy satellites laughing

        Kremlin space arm laughing
    2. pafegosoff
      pafegosoff 28 July 2016 12: 23
      +2
      If seriously, then two meters in diameter ... For AFR centimeters, we had fifty lenses in diameter. So then the plane. And here is the satellite, where every gram is a kilogram of fuel.
      "This is something special" (Intervention)
      1. Yura
        Yura 28 July 2016 13: 54
        0
        Quote: pafegosoff
        If seriously, then two meters in diameter ... For AFR centimeters, we had fifty lenses in diameter. So then the plane. And here is the satellite, where every gram is a kilogram of fuel.
        "This is something special" (Intervention)

        "Maybe, maybe," maybe you are right, but the balloon inflated is four times the size of a soccer ball, it is twenty times lighter than it if figuratively, so why not allow a similar one, in terms of size and weight?
      2. Skifotavr
        Skifotavr 28 July 2016 15: 25
        +1
        Quote: pafegosoff
        If seriously, then two meters in diameter ... For AFR centimeters, we had fifty lenses in diameter. So then the plane. And here is the satellite, where every gram is a kilogram of fuel.
        "This is something special" (Intervention)

        On American intelligence satellites have long been about the same.
  3. Machete
    Machete 28 July 2016 11: 13
    0
    Manipulator with a club.
    Why collect them if you can immediately let them flow?
  4. MACCABI-TLV
    MACCABI-TLV 28 July 2016 11: 42
    -8
    Quote: SRC P-15
    Here is the reason for launching new satellites:
    "The Russian military operation in Syria has shown that the two currently available satellites of the previous generation are not enough, which is why the Ministry of Defense has to involve civilian devices."
    http://www.interfax.ru/tags/%D0%E0%E7%E4%E0%ED

    The reason is this.
    http://www.km.ru/v-rossii/2013/04/10/ministerstvo-oborony-rf/708145-rossiya-kupi
    tu-izrailya-tekhnologii-dlya-sputnik
    But the deal did not take place.
    1. Skifotavr
      Skifotavr 28 July 2016 15: 29
      +2
      Quote: MACCABI-TLV
      Quote: SRC P-15
      Here is the reason for launching new satellites:
      "The Russian military operation in Syria has shown that the two currently available satellites of the previous generation are not enough, which is why the Ministry of Defense has to involve civilian devices."
      http://www.interfax.ru/tags/%D0%E0%E7%E4%E0%ED

      The reason is this.
      http://www.km.ru/v-rossii/2013/04/10/ministerstvo-oborony-rf/708145-rossiya-kupi

      tu-izrailya-tekhnologii-dlya-sputnik
      But the deal did not take place.

      It is strange that Russia in those years did not start buying ballistic missiles in Israel. Apparently, the Jews also blocked the deal ... laughing
  5. Skubudu
    Skubudu 28 July 2016 12: 17
    +5
    Quote: MACCABI-TLV
    Quote: SRC P-15
    Here is the reason for launching new satellites:
    "The Russian military operation in Syria has shown that the two currently available satellites of the previous generation are not enough, which is why the Ministry of Defense has to involve civilian devices."
    http://www.interfax.ru/tags/%D0%E0%E7%E4%E0%ED

    The reason is this.
    http://www.km.ru/v-rossii/2013/04/10/ministerstvo-oborony-rf/708145-rossiya-kupi



    tu-izrailya-tekhnologii-dlya-sputnik
    But the deal did not take place.

    Throwing 3 years ago on a dubious resource.
    In the entire history of the Jewish space program, only 7 Israeli rockets were able to go into space.
    Russia successfully launches about 30 missiles per year.
    The number of Our satellite constellation is one hundred times larger than the Jewish one.
    Ps Russia created Armata because the Jews refused to sell us the Merkava. And Russia created the T-50 because it could not get from Israel a unique aircraft of the 3rd generation "LAVI"
    1. MACCABI-TLV
      MACCABI-TLV 28 July 2016 12: 49
      0
      Quote: Skubudu
      and the entire history of the Jewish space program, only 7 Israeli rockets were able to go into space.
      Russia successfully launches about 30 missiles per year.

      Quote: Skubudu
      Ps Russia created Armata because the Jews refused to sell us the Merkava. And Russia created the T-50 because it could not get from Israel a unique aircraft of the 3rd generation "LAVI"

      And the Watch, (aka) Sercher what then bought? by mistake? wink
      1. kirieeleyson
        kirieeleyson 28 July 2016 13: 01
        +2
        Why not buy if you sell? We can afford to buy the necessary technology, unlike many other countries where, at the head of the military-industrial complex, one or two technological channels are tied to export.
  6. MACCABI-TLV
    MACCABI-TLV 28 July 2016 14: 15
    -4
    Quote: kirieeleyson
    Why not buy if you sell? We can afford to buy the necessary technology, unlike many other countries where, at the head of the military-industrial complex, one or two technological channels are tied to export.

    The satellites weren’t sold, for an unknown reason. For this, you’re doing it yourself now.
    Our satellite weighs 300kg, yours which will change 9ton.
    1. Skubudu
      Skubudu 28 July 2016 15: 27
      -2
      Quote: MACCABI-TLV
      Quote: kirieeleyson
      Why not buy if you sell? We can afford to buy the necessary technology, unlike many other countries where, at the head of the military-industrial complex, one or two technological channels are tied to export.

      The satellites weren’t sold, for an unknown reason. For this, you’re doing it yourself now.
      Our satellite weighs 300kg, yours which will change 9ton.

      Only now your companion lives 1-3 years,
      probably all the same year
      and ours lives 7 years.
      And the capabilities of our device are many times greater than the Jewish satellite.
      1. MACCABI-TLV
        MACCABI-TLV 28 July 2016 17: 32
        0
        Quote: Skubudu
        Only now your companion lives 1-3 years,

        ofek May 5, 2002 to now.
        ofeq June 7, 11 to now.
        ofeq June 9, 22 to now.
        1. Skubudu
          Skubudu 28 July 2016 20: 42
          -1
          Quote: MACCABI-TLV
          Quote: Skubudu
          Only now your companion lives 1-3 years,

          ofek May 5, 2002 to now.
          ofeq June 7, 11 to now.
          ofeq June 9, 22 to now.

          According to Wikipedia, the life cycle is 1-3.
          300 kg is a satellite and cannot function longer, there is no fuel to correct the orbit, etc.
          So these satellites are nothing more than space junk
  7. PKTRL
    PKTRL 28 July 2016 14: 38
    0
    Quote: MACCABI-TLV
    www.km.ru/v-rossii/2013/04/10/ministerstvo-oborony-rf/708145-rossiya-kupi
    tu-izrailya-tekhnologii-dlya-sputnik

    Nonsense! Everything in the article got it wrong. And optoelectronic and radioelectronic .. All the info in the article is wrong! wink
  8. PKTRL
    PKTRL 28 July 2016 14: 43
    0
    Quote: MACCABI-TLV
    Quote: kirieeleyson
    Why not buy if you sell? We can afford to buy the necessary technology, unlike many other countries where, at the head of the military-industrial complex, one or two technological channels are tied to export.

    The satellites weren’t sold, for an unknown reason. For this, you’re doing it yourself now.
    Our satellite weighs 300kg, yours which will change 9ton.


    The so-called "your" satellite - a blank, without processing on board, throws off all information "garbage" and is not able to do something else .., therefore, 300 kg ... wink
    1. MACCABI-TLV
      MACCABI-TLV 28 July 2016 17: 34
      -3
      אופק 9 שוגר ב -22 ביוני 2010 מבסיס חיל האוויר בפלמחים [4] למסלול בגובה 311–600 קילומטרים וכעבור שלושה ימים החל ולשדר תממוי. משקלו כ -5 קילוגרם, אורכו 300 מטר, קוטרו 2.3 מטר והותקנה בו מצלמה משוכללת מתוצרת אל-אופ. אף הוא שוגר בטיל מסוג "שביט". מערכות הלוויין מבוססות על אלה שפותחו עבור הלוויין "אופק 1.2". לדברי מפתחיו, הלוויין מאפשר צילום תמונות בקצב מהיר יותר, בסריקה רבה יותר של השטח וברזולוציה טובה יותר. רזולוצית הצילום שלו היא בין חצי מטר ל -7 ס"מ. אופק 70 היה אמור לתפוס את מקומו של אופק 9, בשנת 5 אך נכון לשנתעד 2011 איי
      https://translate.google.ru/?hl=ru&tab=wT good
      1. Anglorussian
        Anglorussian 28 July 2016 23: 09
        +1
        ימים החל לשדר תמונות באיכות גבוהה.
        There is now an epidemic of heart attacks among the local livestock of patriots! Chinese characters will be harmless even ... Or is this your cunning plan belay ?
  9. Old26
    Old26 28 July 2016 17: 53
    +2
    Quote: PCTRL
    The so-called "your" satellite - a blank, without processing on board, throws off all information "garbage" and is not capable of doing something else .., therefore 300 kg ..

    All OER satellites "dump" information without on-board processing. Only at the first svetski was "processing" - developed the film and then dropped it in capsules. All satellites of the latest generations around the world transmit information over the radio channel. And then the Earth "processes". An article from the series, "But in 2022 ...."
    the problem of the satellite constellation is not that there are no satellites of the corresponding direction, but that there are too few of them. For example, only three "Persons" have been launched all the time: in July 2008, in June 2013 and in June 2015.
  10. bad
    bad 28 July 2016 19: 02
    +2
    Quote: BARKAS
    As the source noted, “in terms of its characteristics, Hrazdan will be head and shoulders above all its predecessors: a fundamentally new payload will appear

    Is there a bomb? wink

    soldering iron and pliers for "neighbors" laughing
    1. Yura
      Yura 28 July 2016 21: 22
      0
      Quote: bad
      soldering iron and pliers for "neighbors"

      yes and iron sad laughing
  11. asiat_61
    asiat_61 28 July 2016 22: 17
    0
    I read it literally today. Lyulyukaev proposes to reduce funding for space programs by 30%. GLONAS will undergo the greatest reduction.