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You do not bomb yet, but we will separate the "moderate" from the "unlimited"

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US Secretary of State John Kerry said on Tuesday that he expects to report in early August about plans for closer military cooperation with the Russian Federation regarding Syria. On the night of July 28, one more thing became known: American diplomats are asking to stop targeting militants in Syria for one week. During this period, the Americans hope to separate the forces of moderate opposition from terrorist groups.


You do not bomb yet, but we will separate the "moderate" from the "unlimited"


On the American attempt to separate the goats from the sheep's newspaper "News" told a source familiar with the negotiations on the Syrian issue.

Washington again stands up to defend those groups in Syria that the Kremlin identified as terrorist (“Ahrar al-Sham” and “Jaish al-Islam”). They in the States are trying to pass for moderate opposition, the newspaper notes.

The newspaper reminds that at the recent talks Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and his colleague John Kerry in Moscow (July 14-15), also at the ministerial meeting last July on the ASEAN ministerial meeting, the US delegation proposed a “silence mode” on 26 days. The purpose of the weekly “silence” is to dissociate the moderate opposition from terrorist groups.

The essence of the request of the State Department: the Air Force of the Russian Federation should stop air operations for a week; the forces of the international coalition led by Washington will do likewise.

“In this matter, the main thing is not to be out in the cold,” said Vladimir Komoyedov, chairman of the defense committee of the State Duma for Izvestia. - It should be understood that the silence mode can be used to redeploy terrorists and regroup forces. It’s already time to engage in a joint regime of silence, delivering coordinated strikes. The task we have with the United States is to achieve victory over ISIS. All of Europe suffers from them, and maybe half the globe. But America just woke up. We must address the fact that we have always been in relations with the Americans: the practice of 1945 of the year shows the expediency of coordinated actions. ”

Recall the ceasefire in Syria has been in effect since February 27. But there is no actual “silence”: firstly, this regime, according to the conditions, does not apply to terrorist groups; Secondly, in recent weeks, fierce fighting in Syria has led to the disruption of the cease-fire in practice. As a result, the strikes inflicted by either side of the conflict can be explained by the fight against terrorism. In this war, civilians are dying. The press wrote about the difficult situation in the Aleppo area and in other regions of Syria, where there is a fierce confrontation.

26 July it became known that Secretary Kerry hopes to present in early August a detailed plan for close cooperation and intelligence sharing with Russia on Syria. Reports about it RIA News" with reference to Reuters.

“I hope that approximately at the beginning of August we will be able to stand in front of you and tell you what we can do with the hope that this will change the course of the war and the situation of those who live in Syria,” the agency quotes Kerry.

According to the Secretary of State, during the meeting with Lavrov, the implementation phase of the plan was designated, including meetings at a technical level in order to "respond to the concerns of the American special services and the armed forces." Kerry noted that progress has been made on the plan.

The State Department’s plan suggests that Washington and Moscow will exchange intelligence information to coordinate air strikes against Dzhebhat an-Nusra’s militants, and the Syrian air force will prohibit striking “moderate rebel groups,” "Expert".

Expert Magazine also reports that John Kerry came out in defense of close cooperation with Russia on Syria, despite the skepticism of Pentagon officials and intelligence services, including Secretary of Defense Carter and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff of Dunford.

Against the background of the coming “close cooperation” in Washington, however, they make statements that can lead to the exact opposite of cooperation. From here and undisguised skepticism of many officials in the United States about the likely cooperation with the Russian Federation.

Journal "Politico" Recalls that recent statements about Moscow’s attempts to “influence” the election race in the United States through hacker attacks present new arguments to the critics of Barack Obama. The American president in the article is referred to as a person trying to bring peace to Syria. John Kerry is working with him in a pair, seeking to promote cooperation initiatives with the Russians. The overall goal of the new plan is to reduce the number of civilian casualties and finally create conditions for settlement.

Meanwhile, the plan promoted by Obama and Kerry drew harsh criticism within the government and in other circles. Opponents of the plan are confident that cooperation with Russians is a “slippery” path. Moreover, the plan looks like a "surrender to Russia." But those who believe that cooperating with Russia on Syria is not such a bad idea, there are few chances to defend their opinion in the United States. Those who wish to find common ground with Russia are confronted by a whole flurry of criticism from opponents accusing Russians of publishing thousands of emails from the National Committee of the Democratic Party. This was allegedly done by “hackers associated with Russia”. Opponents of cooperation with Moscow convince the public that the mail was hacked to help candidate Trump get through to the presidency: the latter speaks well of Putin.

The former high-ranking employee of the Pentagon, and now an expert on Russia Ivlin Farkas does not think that Moscow should be trusted. According to her, the Russians "have such goals that contradict ours" (American). Farkas admits that the Kremlin "intervenes ... in the electoral process" in the United States. As a result, the expert is skeptical about the idea of ​​cooperating with Moscow. In addition, she does not believe that any agreement with the Russians will subsequently lead to a positive impact on the lives of most Syrians.

Another person, a certain official from the administration of the White House, told the magazine that the US is well aware of all the dangers of making deals with Moscow. At the same time, this person assures that everything that is being done in Syria “does not require” American confidence and “is not built on it”. Integrity is not taken into account; we are talking about the fulfillment or non-compliance with the terms of the transaction: yes or no.

And another official, whose name is also not given, told the publication that, if Russia was involved in the hacker attack, Washington would take into account the influence of this event in other areas of cooperation.

Officially, Lisa Monaco, White House adviser on combating terrorism, spoke out recently about the hacker attacks and the likely reaction of Washington. True, she did not point specifically to Moscow.

Her words leads "Voice of America".

The United States will impose sanctions on those behind cyber attacks on transport and electricity systems. Sanctions will be applied, "when optimal conditions arise and when actions will promote the political interests of the United States," Monaco said at a conference on cyber security.

“Speaking frankly, we are experiencing a revolution of cyber threats that are becoming more and more constant, diverse, frequent and dangerous every day,” she said.

Monaco also introduced a new B. B. Obama directive, defining a “clear framework” for coordinating the actions of government agencies fighting in cyberspace.

Voice of America also broadcasts a statement by Deputy Press Secretary of the White House, Eric Schulz, which has already touched on the hacking of the systems of the National Committee of the Democratic Party. Mr. Schulz stressed that he would like to wait for the results of the FBI investigation: "We want it to be thoughtful, thorough and free."

Schulz spoke in connection with the earlier statement of the leader of the democratic minority in the House of Representatives Nancy Pelosi. She was categorical: “The Russians hacked (computer systems) of the National Committee of the Democratic Party. There is no question here. ”

Recall that in Russia such accusations were previously answered by Russia by Sergey Lavrov. Foreign Secretary saidthat he would not like to use foul language: "I would not like to use four-letter words."

Also recall that because of the scandal with the hacker attack and burglary of the head of the National Committee of the Democratic Party, Debbie Wasserman-Schulz had to leave his post. The dismissal, presumably, did not happen because of the hacking and the fact that the correspondence was published, but because the world public figured out from the published letters: the Democratic Party paraplay played up Hillary Clinton and interfered with Bernie Sanders. In short, it is very difficult to call the behavior of the top leaders of the Democratic Party democratic.

It is not surprising, therefore, that it will not be easy for democrats to build any relations with Russia (including in Syria), since they suspect that the Kremlin has relied on the Republican candidate - Trump.

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  1. parusnik
    parusnik 29 July 2016 06: 22
    +30
    Allah in heaven will figure out who is a moderate terrorist, who is not moderate .. Here with such a position of the United States .. these are good terrorists, these are bad .. it’s impressive ... what’s behind the terrorist attacks in France and Germany .. so spontaneous .. are the United States. . In the sense of skillfully guided ..
    1. inkass_98
      inkass_98 29 July 2016 07: 01
      +25
      Quote: parusnik
      Allah in heaven will understand

      "It's not good for God to shift what can be done by a good police" (C)
      He took the barmales in his arms, opposes the legitimate authorities - be kind enough to answer. He managed to throw the barrel and survive - well done, did not have time - the bear is not to blame, he warned.

      -And these here?
      - Everyone is here. - throwing back the ammunition Bear cheerfully rowed for a new batch, - Join. He himself said that jackals should be crushed.
      - Blacks. I said that only blacks can be crushed. In no case, no gray, brown or, God forbid, white.
      “First off, you're a racist.” Secondly, I do so.
      - What are you? - The tiger looked in surprise at the results of the bearish work, - Diagon? Color blind?
      - Firstly, I’ll give one hundred points to the odds on the towns. And my sticks are planed. Calibrated. Secondly - I told them in Russian: who attacks the Camel is black. The rest can be free.
      The tiger opened its mouth, and remained to sit digesting bear logic.
      “He wants to say that he’s not satisfied with the fact that you are figuring everyone in a row.” - The wolf, realizing that his friend looks stupid, tried to support him, - This is not by the rules.
      “Well, tell him when he sticks out that I don’t give a damn what he wants, and what he’s not happy with.” Who is he to set the rules? King of beasts or something?
      - Well, actually ...
      “Although, what the hell is the difference?” I have all the kings to one place - this is my hereditary one. Do you remember my dad how he treated the kings?
      - I remember.
      - It's good. Because now I am more a king — a king — less ... I feel such vigor in my body! Who else to screw?
      The bear looked back at the hillock, but found only swirling dust there. Grinning, he thrust two claws into his mouth and whistled through the bandits, lifting the raven from the tree.
      - Hare bastard, ogloed! You didn’t sunbathe here! Work! A goal for eleven hours and let no one go offended!
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 29 July 2016 07: 34
        +11
        It is hard to believe that the US Democratic Party - namely, the American globalist war party - really cares and is concerned about the salvation of some civilians there in Syria! For the "exceptional" Anglo-Saxons with their pirate "universal" values, the so-called of the American “Western democracy” all other peoples are nothing more than the natives given the “exclusive” property in the form of slaves, and nothing more. Moreover, historically, under the slave system in the United States, foreign slaves themselves, while they were worthless for the American slave traders, like game for hunters, were primitively cheap.
        Of course, the US proposal for 7 days of "silence" in the SAR is exclusively about American Machiavellianism on the part of the US "Democratic War Party" in the BV - the desire of its representatives not to let their grown-up terrorist groups in the BV be completely destroyed - and nothing more. ...
        1. Tatar 174
          Tatar 174 29 July 2016 08: 03
          +5
          “The Russians hacked (computer systems) the National Committee of the Democratic Party. There is no question. ”

          Now what? Russians are already everywhere! And what are those services that were supposed to prevent this and spend money on it? Where, in the end, do the US taxpayers' money go if these services do not fulfill their duties?
          Here they drove themselves into a trap.
          Quote: Tatiana
          It is hard to believe that the US Democratic Party - namely, the American globalist war party - really cares and is concerned about the salvation of some civilians there in Syria!

          For that they have reason to say before the election, that’s how good we are, we are worried about the Syrian people, and therefore vote for our candidate. And voters are not yet versed in the intricacies of what is happening in Syria and when and because of what it all started and confident that everything said is true, they will believe and will vote.
          1. iConst
            iConst 29 July 2016 11: 11
            +4
            Quote: Tatar 174
            Now what? Russians are already everywhere!

            Who doesn’t know:
            - In Bangladesh, hail was sprinkled - Putin is to blame.
            - The cat left the kittens - this is ... (in unison!)
            - The plague "mows" pigs - this is ... (in unison!)
            - A drought for five years in a row is ... (in unison!)
            - All galaxies fly - it's ... (in unison!)
            - and so on to infinity ... laughing
          2. Lord blacwood
            Lord blacwood 29 July 2016 12: 21
            +3
            “The Russians hacked (computer systems) the National Committee of the Democratic Party. There is no question. ”

            All these myths are specially invented so that US citizens do not vote for Trump in the elections (they say, "You see, Trump is for peace with Russia, and Russian hackers are hacking us"). Competition, and nothing more.
        2. iConst
          iConst 29 July 2016 11: 03
          +4
          Quote: Tatiana
          It is hard to believe that the US Democratic Party - namely, the American globalist war party - really cares and is concerned about the salvation of some civilians there in Syria! For the "exceptional" Anglo-Saxons with their pirate "universal" values, the so-called American "Western democracy" all other nations - this is nothing more than

          - You ask a strange rhetorical question, Tatyana.

          "Moderates" is a State Department synonym for "irreconcilable." The very (and only) ram they control against Assad.

          But, the priest crept up imperceptibly: for a long time without entertainment, these brothers cannot, so they "got excited" - they cut off the teenager's head. Now the pendocs are racking their brains how to explain this from the standpoint of the struggle for democratic "values". laughing
          1. faridg7
            faridg7 29 July 2016 16: 01
            +4
            So everything has already been invented. You don’t bomb there, the moderates are still being re-sorted, and the children are engaged in "rebranding" - I am not me, not mine.
      2. Nursultan
        Nursultan 29 July 2016 10: 15
        +2
        Good fable !! Where is it from?
    2. Dart2027
      Dart2027 29 July 2016 08: 01
      +4
      Quote: parusnik
      it’s impressive ... what’s behind the terrorist attacks in France and Germany .. so spontaneous .. are the United States

      Do you doubt it?
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 29 July 2016 09: 02
        +1
        Dart2027... Do not believe it ... not a bit of doubt ....
      2. guzik007
        guzik007 29 July 2016 09: 22
        +3
        ... to separate the goats from the lamb ...
        ... and give the lambs American and European passports.
        1. Amurets
          Amurets 29 July 2016 09: 51
          +7
          Quote: guzik007
          ... to separate the goats from the lamb ...
          ... and give the lambs American and European passports.

          A question for everyone? Why and for whom weapons are being transferred for $ 1.2 billion? You don’t know and I don’t know. But the fact that the Russian aerospace forces interfere with this is a no brainer. That's why a week-long respite in the aerospace flight is required to deliver and distribute these weapons .Something like that, but I think so.
          1. Tatar 174
            Tatar 174 29 July 2016 12: 22
            +1
            Quote: Amurets
            But the fact that the Russian aerospace forces hinder this, this is a no brainer. That's why it takes a week-long respite in the aerospace flight to deliver and distribute these weapons. Something like that, but I think so.

            You definitely noticed this, is it really so or is there anyone who objects?
            This is what our people in the Ministry of Defense understand and the Commander-in-Chief also understands, will they really give a week ??? If they give, it means that I and so many of us do not understand something at all ...
    3. siberalt
      siberalt 29 July 2016 20: 36
      +4
      Do not know how to divide the moderate from the immoderate? Yes, drop a bomb and see who runs in which direction. laughing
    4. DimYang
      DimYang 1 August 2016 00: 27
      0
      Quote: parusnik
      so spontaneous .. are USA.


      For the most part, Israel.
  2. aszzz888
    aszzz888 29 July 2016 06: 26
    +4
    During this period, Americans hope to separate the forces of moderate opposition from terrorist groups.

    I wonder which strainer they will be filtered through? laughing
    1. major071
      major071 29 July 2016 07: 12
      +11
      How to separate the moderate from the immoderate? Yes, very easy! There are differences!

      The terrorists have no coloring
      Their Kerry divides "according to the mind":
      On the forehead with a green bandage
      With the same armband, but on the forehead!
      wink drinks
      1. iConst
        iConst 29 July 2016 12: 24
        +4
        Quote: major071
        How to separate the moderate from the immoderate? Yes, very easy! There are differences!

        The terrorists have no coloring
        Their Kerry divides "according to the mind":
        On the forehead with a green bandage
        With a bandage of the same on the forehead!
        wink drinks

        - Greetings, categorically !!!

        The identity could not resist according to your example:

        The other is a sign of the temperate
        From rags knitted on the foreheads:
        Much slower and more mellow
        Victims are separated from the head
    2. BARKAS
      BARKAS 29 July 2016 07: 21
      +2
      Quote: aszzz888
      I wonder which strainer they will be filtered through?

      Yesterday, the article was launched, the planned renaming of terrorists is necessary; new flags must be drawn; change signs; new videos should be removed for all this and it takes time.
    3. Tusv
      Tusv 29 July 2016 08: 12
      +3
      Quote: aszzz888
      I wonder which strainer they will be filtered through?

      Yesterday, Shoigu said. 2 additional humanitarian corridors open. The first, for unarmed barmaley - they will be moderate, the second with weapons, for the descendants of the shaitan. Outside Alepo they are easier to wet
  3. VSZMK
    VSZMK 29 July 2016 06: 27
    +2
    “The Russians hacked (computer systems) the National Committee of the Democratic Party. There is no question. ”

    Guys, admit who did this?
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    3. fif21
      fif21 29 July 2016 14: 36
      +4
      Quote: VSZMK
      Guys, admit who did this?
      Ah, what am I? I don’t! I taught English crying
  4. viktor561
    viktor561 29 July 2016 06: 36
    +4
    And what did the USA lose on our continent? Raised the bastards of the East with their crap! For centuries, Russia has been establishing relations with such complex countries and understands better that the East is a delicate matter.
  5. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 29 July 2016 06: 39
    +4
    During this period the Americans hope to separate moderate opposition forces from terrorist groups.

    If I am not mistaken, the Americans have been separating everything since February, but they cannot. Now they diligently want to once again hang on to us "noodles" and help their fosterlings.
    Russian expert Evelyn Farkas does not think Moscow should be trusted. According to her, the Russians “There are goals that contradict ours” (American)

    Our goals are really different and contradict each other. Russia is fighting global evil, and the United States is not only supporting it, but is also trying to solve its global problems with it.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 29 July 2016 06: 49
      +2
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Now they diligently want to once again hang on to us "noodles" and help their fosterlings.

      Well, they also want Minsk 1, Minsk 2 ... only until they have chosen a country where to conduct negotiations.
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 29 July 2016 07: 19
        +1
        Yes, obviously they really liked the chip with Minsk. Twice helped APU, you look and slip into the third, only in Syria.
  6. B.T.V.
    B.T.V. 29 July 2016 06: 39
    +4
    Or maybe they, like Cinderella, send a "good Fairy" to help, so that it is easier and faster to separate the moderate from the rabid ?!
  7. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 29 July 2016 06: 48
    +10
    Oleg wrote a large article, in general, it can be narrowed down with a single statement by Kirby
    WASHINGTON, Jul 28 - RIA Novosti, Alexey Bogdanovsky. The United States fears that Russia's humanitarian operation in Aleppo is tantamount to requiring the militants to surrender, State Department spokesman John Kirby told reporters on Thursday.

    RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/syria/20160728/1473115874.html#ixzz4FlYTxfVk
    1. Wolka
      Wolka 29 July 2016 06: 53
      +1
      it is so ...
    2. Delink
      Delink 29 July 2016 07: 15
      +2
      There is another option, to bury everyone. This is the best option, and Americans will have less chance of managing someone.
      1. SMAKAROV49
        SMAKAROV49 29 July 2016 18: 33
        +1
        Your option is preferable. Leopard change his spots.
  8. Masya masya
    Masya masya 29 July 2016 06: 50
    +5
    I think the seven-day "regime of silence" will not be enough for them, if they have not yet determined xy from xy ...
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 29 July 2016 12: 04
      +2
      Quote: Masya Masya
      I think the seven-day "regime of silence" will not be enough for them, if they have not yet determined xy from xy ...

      For that, there will be enough time to distribute East European weapons and withdraw from the blows for reformation, battered parts of the militants.
  9. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 29 July 2016 06: 53
    +2
    The United States seeks to preserve the gangs they have nurtured for further struggle. And they did it. The war continues.
  10. nazar_0753
    nazar_0753 29 July 2016 07: 01
    +1
    Will cost. Completely fucked up
  11. Uncle Murzik
    Uncle Murzik 29 July 2016 07: 15
    +3
    the most important and largest terrorist group is the USA itself!
  12. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 29 July 2016 07: 25
    +1
    Quote: VSZMK
    Guys, admit who did this?
    Who cares who? I know how, but I won’t say it!
    1. gg.na
      gg.na 29 July 2016 08: 58
      +1
      Quote: avg-mgn
      I know how, but I won’t say it!

      You probably quite belay do not sleep??! belay If you know so much ?? lol
  13. sergeyzzz
    sergeyzzz 29 July 2016 07: 28
    +1
    The silence mode here is needed only for the rotation of gangs, their replenishment with recruits and ammunition, otherwise they themselves may run away.
  14. Arkan
    Arkan 29 July 2016 08: 14
    +1
    The cynicism of the request is astounding! Imaginary care for the lives of civilians, for the sake of saving the undead of cutting children, is in the American style. To bomb and solve the problem radically, that is, to destroy the cause of the request.
  15. Shadowcat
    Shadowcat 29 July 2016 08: 46
    +1
    Or maybe moderate to bomb moderate?
  16. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 29 July 2016 08: 56
    +2
    From the bible. The New Testament (Gospel of Matthew, ch. 13, vv. 24-30) tells how a man sowed good wheat seeds in his field, and his enemy scattered weed seeds in the same field at night. When the field turned green, the slaves said that weeds and weeds also came up with the wheat and offered to pull them out. The owner decided differently: “But he said: no, so that, choosing tares, you do not pull out wheat with them; let both grow together until the harvest; and during the harvest I will tell the reapers: first collect the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them, and take the wheat to my granary. "
  17. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 29 July 2016 09: 03
    +1
    Ameripedides in Syria what do they do? Who called them there?
    Who gave them powers? - These questions were publicly asked to mattresses? Answers received? And why should we look back at them? The main Assad in the country and the Syrian people. As they say - it will be so. Roll everyone indiscriminately into the sand, and only then talk and understand with the Americans - everything must be done exactly according to the Naglosakson scheme. Who will present them for the test tube now? And for everything else? Only in this way, nothing else - first to utilize ALL the barmalei, and then rub the graters with Amer's insoles.
    Well, if our politicians follow the lead of the striped geeks, then it turns out, as it were, not "ours", but the same henchmen of disgust and TNK.
  18. Azim77
    Azim77 29 July 2016 09: 22
    +1
    I wonder how the US wants to separate the moderate opposition from the immoderate one? By blood type, eyes, ears or skin color? Maybe the length of the beard? So both those and those motley. According to the documents? By the one who shouts "Alla to the bar" louder? How? And who will do it?
  19. Zubr
    Zubr 29 July 2016 09: 45
    +2
    smile Well, what can I say. State Dep. Now, trying to look like a kind of naive lump of feathers, they are buzzing at us like a transformer that is being blamed for our "non-sporting behavior". Nothing, Lavrov with V.V. with our head, they will come up with another trap. hi
    1. fif21
      fif21 29 July 2016 14: 43
      +2
      Quote: Zubr
      Well, what can I say. State Dep. Now, trying to look like a kind of naive lump of feathers, they are buzzing at us like a transformer that is being blamed for our "non-sporting behavior".
      Let them come out of NATO (their pay for our loyalty! For all the gentlemen you have to pay, for the requests too! wassat
  20. Zubr
    Zubr 29 July 2016 09: 53
    +1
    Quote: Azim77
    I wonder how the US wants to separate the moderate opposition from the immoderate one? By blood type, eyes, ears or skin color? Maybe the length of the beard? So both those and those motley. According to the documents? By the one who shouts "Alla to the bar" louder? How? And who will do it?


    They lose Alep, they need a break and regrouping.
  21. iliya87
    iliya87 29 July 2016 09: 57
    +1
    The people for Assad are already clear that there is no moderate opposition for a long time. Rather, it is in the South, but there is little of it and they are cooperating with ISIS. Only one way out is political. Everyone is handing over weapons who did not add up to wet it and that's it. Who is there to disassemble the moderate and non-moderate?
  22. Tambov Wolf
    Tambov Wolf 29 July 2016 10: 58
    +1
    We need to beat everyone who is against us and Assad. We will sort it out after that. This is the most acceptable option for us. There is nothing to slobber about.
  23. Lord blacwood
    Lord blacwood 29 July 2016 12: 27
    0
    The United States has had ample time to separate the “moderates” from the “exorbitant” ones. Moreover, the United States has been "separated" since 2013. There are only two conclusions from this:
    -or the United States has problems with coordination and communication with "its own" (which begs the question of the prestige of the US Army). Nor is it surprising then that the weapons allegedly supplied by the United States to the "moderate" ended up in the hands of terrorists.
    -or the US wants to give "its" a respite.
    The second conclusion is most likely likely, since the US Armed Forces in this region since 2003, and are well aware of everything that happens there.
    In any case, the United States should not be trusted, as it is an enemy.
  24. thinker
    thinker 29 July 2016 16: 39
    0
    Shoigu said well about these "moderate"
    I would also like to understand what the appearance of the moderate opposition units is, how many such units should have tanks, multiple launch rocket systems, artillery mortars, machine guns and other moderate weapons.

    https://www.gazeta.ru/army/news/8930759.shtml
  25. tiaman.76
    tiaman.76 29 July 2016 18: 52
    +1
    I don’t understand what kind of moderate terrorists are and not moderate .. surely in the West they think like someone who crushed people on a truck in a niche is not moderate, but to kill civilians and overthrow the legitimate government in Syria they are moderate, even not so good
  26. Phoenix_L'vov
    Phoenix_L'vov 30 July 2016 12: 46
    0
    In fact, everything is simple - he took up arms and began to fight against the government - a terrorist. Don't believe me? Do not agree? Ask the government of Ukraine, they will confirm! Any Ukrainian minister, the most recent deputy, will immediately say that the militias of the East of Ukraine are terrorists, because they, like Syrian rebels, took up arms, and also began to fight against the government. Well, maybe they will also add that they are not just "terrorists", but "terrorist separatists." And they have Syrian rebels - no, no, not terrorists, but "freedom fighters", because they are fighting against the pro-Russian government for pro-American power, with American weapons that America supplies them. At the same time, they also argue that it is illegal to supply weapons to a sovereign country bypassing the legitimate government - meaning, of course, not Syria, but the LPNR, which receive weapons not only from the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but also from Russia.
  27. Zubr
    Zubr 30 July 2016 21: 44
    +1
    Quote: fif21
    Quote: Zubr
    Well, what can I say. State Dep. Now, trying to look like a kind of naive lump of feathers, they are buzzing at us like a transformer that is being blamed for our "non-sporting behavior".
    Let them come out of NATO (their pay for our loyalty! For all the gentlemen you have to pay, for the requests too! wassat


    My friend, with your prayers, look and the golden age will come.) I remembered the novel "Virgin Soil Upturned", I quote Nagulnov "If with each blow from each fist a pood of grain flew out, I would only do this, that I walked and hit.") But in general very good offer, I join. hi
  28. wanderer_032
    wanderer_032 31 July 2016 15: 13
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    Washington again stands up to defend those groups in Syria that the Kremlin identified as terrorist (“Ahrar al-Sham” and “Jaish al-Islam”). They in the States are trying to pass for moderate opposition, the newspaper notes.

    Well, everything is correct. It didn't work with YKHYL and other slippers, so now they transferred their pawns from YKHYL under the names and banners of other Wahhabi bandit formations, which they are trying to label as "moderate political opposition."

    Just don’t hang any labels (stickers), the Wahhabis from this - they won’t stop being Wahhabis.
  29. DimYang
    DimYang 1 August 2016 00: 34
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    Judging by their logic, in the Patriotic War we also had to first ask the Germans or Romanians, well, the rest - did you come to this? AND? What are you saying? ..With a humanitarian mission. And we thought ...