Ukrainian "Aviakon" received the NATO quality certificate

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"Konotop Aviation Repair Plant" Aviakon "" (part of "Ukroboronprom") received a certificate of compliance with the quality system requirements of the NATO standard AQAР 2120, transfers RIA News message of the press service of the state corporation.

Ukrainian "Aviakon" received the NATO quality certificate


It is noted that the document of the directorate of the plant was presented by the head of the Aerospace Sector “Bureau Veritas Certification Ukraine” Alexander Karasev.

“The new technical standards will apply to all stages of the product life cycle governing the implementation of the management and quality assurance system - AQAP (Allied Quality Assurance Publications). The Ukrainian army should have modern and high-quality weapons. That is why the concern is implementing NATO standards and is working to ensure that the quality of production meets international standards, ”the press service of the Deputy General Director of Ukroboronprom Vladimir Kostritsky quotes.

The company recalled that Ukroboronprom enterprises had previously “gained access to the NATO Master Logistics Directory (NATO Master Catalog of References for Logistics)”, and “is also testing the functioning of NATO quality assurance standards (AQAP 2000 series)”.

The agency reminds that Aviacon is “a unique enterprise in terms of its production and technological capabilities, providing major overhaul and modernization of Mi-family helicopters.”
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  1. +5
    July 28 2016
    Soon, Aviakon will not be needed. At this rate, the collapse of the economy and the army will soon leave no enterprises at all.
    1. +24
      July 28 2016
      The collapse is understandable. It is unclear how NATO standards will fall on the Mi-8, 24 ???
      1. +4
        July 28 2016
        Quote: klaus16
        It is unclear how NATO standards will fall on the Mi-8, 24 ???
        - They received NATO standards. For such a "feat" and a reward must be presented - the cross of Judas-Mazepa - they are already being rewarded with this kind ...
        1. +7
          July 28 2016
          This is great, they will repair the F-16 for NATO. Or maybe Boeing.
          1. +5
            July 28 2016
            This is great, they will repair the F-16 for NATO. Or maybe Boeing.

            Rather, the aircraft of our production, and by and large are not so soon.
            hi
            Soon, Aviakon will not be needed.

            Russia will still need it, and Ukraine is a downed pilot.
            Yes
            1. +4
              July 28 2016
              Aviakon is "a company unique in its production and technological capabilities that provides overhaul and modernization of Mi family helicopters."

              A diploma can also be bought in the transition, inexpensively, and you, in principle, will also be considered as a specialist.
          2. +11
            July 28 2016
            Quote: captain
            This is great, they will repair the F-16 for NATO. Or maybe Boeing.

            They have already repaired the Croats in an instant)))
            Those are still in shock since of more than 10 repaired MIG-21s, only steam can rise into the air.
            Now let them upgrade the F-16 to maize)))
            1. +2
              July 28 2016
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              They have already repaired the Croats in an instant)))

              So I thought about the same thing, if the standards of Krajina = NATO standards - PPC kitten, will not live long.
            2. +2
              July 28 2016
              and who will let them repair them ??? the certificate was given so that the attendants would be asked for less, and given the state of production, all repairs should be made before the 1st take-off. and worked at the engine plant, so to get a certificate for the repair of our engines, it was necessary to turn inside out)))
            3. +1
              July 28 2016
              "further, file with a file"
          3. +1
            July 28 2016
            Quote: captain
            This is great, they will repair the F-16 for NATO. Or maybe Boeing.

            Ktozh will allow them. To cut the budget of the Ministry of Defense of the USA for those wishing in bulk without ukrov
          4. +1
            July 28 2016
            No, there is a simple standard there, as soon as all production ceases, you immediately receive a certificate!
          5. +2
            July 28 2016
            Do not steal the brain is not enough.
          6. 0
            July 28 2016
            They only know how to shoot down Boeing
        2. +3
          July 28 2016
          Quote: oldseaman1957
          the award must be presented - the cross of Judah-Mazepa - they are already being awarded with such might and main ...

          Order of the Sutuly ...
          Fucking standards at NATO, since the timeless, ruined and plundered fits them :)
          And how much is the diameter of the screw in the Mi8 in inches will be ... :) :) :)
      2. +1
        July 28 2016
        Understandably, understandably, with a stretch of the nose, and Ukrainians are good at it. Especially if you need it outside the puddle.
      3. +6
        July 28 2016
        Quote: klaus16
        The collapse is understandable. It is unclear how NATO standards will fall on the Mi-8, 24 ???

        I myself do not understand why the heck this certificate and the logistics catalog?
        "overhaul and modernization of helicopters of the Mi family."
        Overhaul, it’s donor in their conditions, from two, three very old, collect one younger ... request
      4. +3
        July 28 2016
        You know, I’m not kidding, NASO hasn’t seen only a lot of space, I have seen and attended a couple of times, studying the earth’s crust and geo platforms, NASO flies ONLY on MI 8. In such matters, Ukraine is a separate topic. Enti standards are definitely not suitable. Gentlemen, if there are helicopter pilots, confirm.
      5. +2
        July 28 2016
        They don’t lie down. Therefore, we received a piece of paper. There is no sense in it, but let it be at least some kind of rethinking. Pleased the poor fellow with a wrapper.
    2. 0
      July 28 2016
      NATO quality standards? laughing here in the Union, soap was quality and a quality mark in the form of a star in a polyhedron. This meant that the thing would work for decades
  2. 0
    July 28 2016
    Ukrainian "Aviakon" received the NATO quality certificate

    Now they will sculpt a swastika on their products? "Made by order of NATO".
  3. +1
    July 28 2016
    I think this enterprise will soon be overwhelmed ... financing and orders are needed ... and where will they get them ??? ...
    1. +4
      July 28 2016
      For example, there is an old MiGremont aircraft plant in Zaporozhye. Old MiGs and Sushki are pounded, one a year. The quality is at the level of the general condition in the country, that is, there are no spare parts, and everything is done from scrap materials. And this is in aviation! What are the NATO standards? But while the states give money for weapons and war, they will slowly poke around, cut the budget. Let them repair it, with such a repair and air defense is not necessary.
  4. +13
    July 28 2016
    “NATO's quality assurance standards are being tested (AQAP 2000 series).”


    Anybody! Translate it. I broke my head. They probably use a special generator of meaningless phrases.
    1. +10
      July 28 2016
      Quote: Monos
      “NATO's quality assurance standards are being tested (AQAP 2000 series).”

      Anybody! Translate it. I broke my head. They probably use a special generator of meaningless phrases.

      good Yes, despite the fact that they received certificate of conformity of the quality system to the requirements of the NATO standard AQAP 2120...
      1. +1
        July 28 2016
        I have natural waste of gorgeous quality, I want to require a certificate of conformity of the quality system to the requirements of the NATO AQAP 2120 standard .... What do you think will work out?
        1. +4
          July 28 2016
          Quote: olegkrava
          I have natural waste of gorgeous quality, I want to require a certificate of conformity of the quality system to the requirements of the NATO AQAP 2120 standard .... What do you think will work out?


          Who are we going to steam?
          1. +2
            July 28 2016
            You heard PSACS, the comments are EXCESSIVE.
          2. +1
            July 28 2016
            If they give, then we will be steaming into the andron colaider.
  5. +2
    July 28 2016
    The Ukrainian army should have modern and high-quality weapons. That is why the concern is implementing NATO standards.

    Must have - will have. Maybe. If the country falls apart into its component parts. In general, NATO standards are far from a panacea. Many, so to speak, "users" of NATO standards products, have very unpleasant and reasonable questions about these very standards ...
  6. +1
    July 28 2016
    the hands are the same, the heads are the same, the equipment is the same, everything is the same as it was before, but they received a certificate ... they paid, they gave a piece of paper, they did not pay, they did not give a piece of paper ... in short, another cut of money!
    1. +1
      July 28 2016
      Rather, they did it for free. Nata wants a hohland.
  7. 0
    July 28 2016
    all one ukprpromsdoh
  8. +1
    July 28 2016
    Paper (certificate) can be obtained even from the Martians if you bend in time. That's just the presence of a piece of paper, quality at the level of international standards will not appear by itself. In "Aviakon" probably all the ceilings are described (from the word to write) with joy. A year will celebrate this good news, another year will be hungover, and there may already be no country.
  9. +1
    July 28 2016
    Who-thread can explain how NATO standards can "lie" on the MI?
    1. +2
      July 28 2016
      Bramb
      Who-thread can explain how NATO standards can "lie" on the MI?


      Standards are not tied to a specific hardware. This is a set of general rules and instructions. How to draw up paper, in what condition is this piece of paper (in the sense of someone on the table). The cycle of this piece of paper is the life cycle. I handed over to the archive - the life cycle has ended. (To paint everything - a lecture for 3 hours).
  10. 0
    July 28 2016
    And the Milians gave permission for the repair of helicopters under the Mi brand. Or shall we forgive these goats, as well as the Bulgarians and Romanians, for the release of the "Ak"?
    1. +3
      July 28 2016
      victorsh
      Did the Milians give permission to repair helicopters under the Mi brand?


      if Aviakon does not have a contract with MI, then the Milians are no longer responsible for this helicopter (not dealer service).
      1. 0
        July 28 2016
        Quote: Alex_Tug
        victorsh
        Did the Milians give permission to repair helicopters under the Mi brand?


        if Aviakon does not have a contract with MI, then the Milians are no longer responsible for this helicopter (not dealer service).

        Probably already for the hundredth time I’m answering about Aviakon, former military unit 21653, where I worked for 15 years, it was at this rembase with the direct supervision of Miles that the repair technology was developed, not in Rostov, but in this military unit. And there is a di certificate for the right to repair,
  11. 0
    July 28 2016
    They should be given a referral to the house of hee hee and not a certificate.
  12. +2
    July 28 2016
    Now they will fall according to European standards
  13. 0
    July 28 2016

    The agency reminds that Aviacon is “a unique enterprise in terms of its production and technological capabilities, providing major overhaul and modernization of Mi-family helicopters.”
    And what are NATO helicopters MI. And what a major overhaul and restoration. In addition to the specialty, making pots of crap for the Europeans is not in demand at this time, there is no demand. A new specialty is shit. laughing
  14. 0
    July 28 2016
    Quote: klaus16
    The collapse is understandable. It is unclear how NATO standards will fall on the Mi-8, 24 ???


    In Ukraine, everything will fall through the ass.
  15. +2
    July 28 2016
    For the repair of all types of military equipment, for example, in India, China, North Korea, Vietnam and other countries, there are standards of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. I want to remind you that more than 5500 domestic aircraft are in operation and armament in 42 countries. There were no problems anywhere except Ukraine. Here is the result of the work of Gorbachev and the drunk of all Russia. I have the honor.
  16. SAA
    +2
    July 28 2016
    So what. I can give out at least a dozen such certificates. The main thing is orders and their payment. And there are no more crazy people giving them money, after stolen tanks and sawn planes.
  17. 0
    July 28 2016
    NATO competently breeds. Any beautiful papers, just not money.
  18. 0
    July 28 2016
    It would have burned so casually .... Although which one will be invested there? That is, if the West has thoughts to rebuild Ukraine for some project, then yes. But now the global crisis and nobody will give grandmas as a long loan. Ukraine taught us, and therefore we need to look at Belarus from a pragmatic point of view, our brothers have always betrayed us. And now in Belarus, the leader is a simple man who really wants to rule the country himself and make friends with the United States and the West, but he hasn’t come out with a snout. But what he is doing in the country is gradually moving Belarusians away from Russia.
  19. 0
    July 28 2016
    The server is buggy and all this certified logistics will be covered. Nothing about it. Bourgeois standards are not always useful.
  20. 0
    July 28 2016
    NATO competently breeds. Any beautiful papers, just not money.


    NATO makes money, in order to get these pieces of paper it is necessary to pass an audit. You have to pay for the audit.
  21. 0
    July 28 2016
    This is from the series "we will not give money and weapons, but we will morally help."
    They gave Filkin a letter saying that you have become closer to us. But no one will ever risk (and never will) repair anything there.
  22. +1
    July 28 2016
    Only the Mi family of helicopters is the intellectual property of Russia. And Russia did not issue a certificate of conformity for the repair of these machines. Mi-2, Mi-8 in / in Ukraine, in principle, can not upgrade and repair. For that, they rode on somewhere there (forgot a filthy word).
  23. +1
    July 28 2016
    Your deeds are miraculous, Lord, the remnants of Soviet planes, and the NATO certificate of conformity .....
  24. 0
    July 28 2016
    The Russian Helicopters Holding has an exclusive right to repair and modernize the entire line of Mil helicopters. Without his license, all works are essentially counterfeit, and Ukraine is unlikely to get a license. And what does the NATO certificate have to do with it?
    And without a license and manufacturer's guarantees, who would want to make repairs? These are not "Zhiguli" (and those of old models), which can be repaired in "Uncle Vasya's" garage.
  25. +1
    July 28 2016
    Military exclusivity does not exist. laughing
    Certificates and licenses are needed only for civil aircraft, without them operation on international airlines is impossible. In addition, this allows you to blame the manufacturer for accidents associated with design flaws.
    In the military sphere, all this does not matter. Military equipment is used only domestically or in theaters of operations where no regulations work.
    The only drawback of the lack of certificates in the military sphere - the company providing the repair will have to do everything at your own peril and risk - to look for it or to produce components and most importantly, be responsible for the possible consequences of the repair (you can no longer blame the manufacturer).
    Aviakon is a state-owned enterprise and by definition it cannot "want" or "not want" to do repairs. They will say - they will. They will say to remake - they will remake in accordance with the requirements of the Ministry of Defense. Certificates are not needed here, you can make any changes to the aircraft design, install any devices. But all at your own peril and risk.
    At the same time, you can search for the missing komplektuha anywhere, involving any suitable company. For example, for Ruslanov and the An-148 \ 178 line will be taken from Esterline CMC Electronics.
    1. 0
      July 28 2016
      ... Military exclusivity does not exist ...
      I assure you, you are mistaken. I myself worked for 18 years at the VP (though it’s a marine theme, but it doesn’t matter) and in addition to licenses, a lot of regulatory documents and regulations are needed to conclude a repair contract, agreed with the general developer or manufacturer. No self-respecting country will sign a contract with a counterfeit enterprise. Well, if Somalia only!
  26. 0
    July 28 2016
    Foreign practice refutes your words.
    Let us think from the contrary. Tell me how the manufacturer’s regulations (Mil) can prevent the Moscow Armed Forces of Ukraine from repairing and upgrading helicopters at Aviakon? They will fly only over Ukraine and do not obey the requirements of all MAKs and ICAO.
    The standards you specify only affect the overseas operation of civilian vehicles.
    But if a foreign customer turns to Aviakon, then yes, there may be problems. But only if he again intends to exploit the "aircrafts" as civilians and outside his country. Nothing gets in the way inside your country.
    Romanians and Georgians have upgraded their MiG-21 and Su-25 from the Israelis. NOBODY coordinated anything with anyone. Somalia? "Respect" works differently in this area ...
    Shl, Russia will have to just solve a similar problem of modernizing its fleet of Ruslans, who fly mainly abroad. Antonov does not agree to transfer full service and modernization of Russia to the IL design bureau and in response is going to stop the foreign operation of Ruslans modernized without agreement with the manufacturer. They simply will not be released outside the Russian Federation. This is how certificates and licenses "work".
  27. 0
    July 28 2016
    We already discussed here Croatian MiGs with broken numbers, after the Ukrainian repair. We got to the helicopters.

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