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Angolan military personnel injured at training ground in Kazakhstan

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The Ministry of Defense of Kazakhstan publishes a declaration on the state of emergency in preparation for the 2016 International Army Games. Press office The ministry reports that at the “Guards” military training ground in Otar, Zhambyl oblast, during a firing practice, there was a rupture of ammunition intended for firing from an 120-mm mortar.

Angolan military personnel injured at training ground in Kazakhstan


According to the latest data, the explosion of a mine occurred at the moment when the soldiers from the Angolan national team were doing the shooting firing. As a result of the rupture of a munition, several people were injured, and one is in serious condition. All the Angolan military personnel, injured and injured, were taken to the medical unit of the military base.

A preliminary analysis of what happened at the “Guards” test site revealed that the Angolan military personnel had grossly violated security measures when conducting firing with a mortar. They, without coordination with the command and the chief of shooting, tried to change their positions and left the trench. It is reported that the cause of the rupture of the munition could be the so-called dual loading. This is reported by the press service of the Ministry of Defense of the Republic of Kazakhstan.

A special intergovernmental commission works at the scene of the accident, which should make a final conclusion on the causes of the incident.

It is necessary to add that the incident occurred while preparing for the “Masters of Artillery Fire” competition, in which soldiers from 13 countries will take part. The Kazakhstani command declares that before the start of training, all the military personnel involved in the competitions passed the appropriate instructions.
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Dmitry Derevyankin
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  1. Corsair0304
    Corsair0304 27 July 2016 15: 57
    +6
    Sad of course, but .. it happens. As far as I remember, the 120-mm has a "double loading" system, so most likely the "human factor".

    The 120-mm mortar 2B11 "Sani" is a smooth-bore, muzzle-loading, rigid (without anti-recoil devices) system, consisting of the following main parts: a barrel, a two-legged carriage, a base plate, a double-loading safety device and an aiming device.
    http://www.burevestnik.com/products/2C12.html
    1. NIKNN
      NIKNN 27 July 2016 16: 08
      +11
      It's a pity guys, but "give the fool a glass ... not for long ...", the organizers (specifically the leader) of the shooting are also to blame. If only at the competitions, the state of emergency did not happen ugh, ugh, ugh ...
      1. sandrmur76
        sandrmur76 27 July 2016 20: 55
        0
        They tried but were not lucky. Pity Muzhikov. By the way, who knows the mortar on the beam of the VAZ 2108 I saw a disk stamp and looked closely and there ...
      2. Mister22408
        Mister22408 27 July 2016 23: 59
        0
        He answered himself for the leader ... you can’t follow there.
    2. Teberii
      Teberii 27 July 2016 16: 09
      +2
      Hurried and got into history, I hope everyone will stay alive.
      1. Kasym
        Kasym 27 July 2016 17: 45
        +5
        The international army games 2016, which Russia initiated several years ago, will be held among artillerymen and snipers, and will start on August 2. The countries of the Collective Security Treaty Organization, China, South Africa, Venezuela, Zimbabwe, Iran, Mongolia, and Angola arrived. It must be assumed that over time it will turn into the Army Olympics.
        It will be extremely unpleasant if the weapon or ammunition is to blame. Although the mortar must have been shot. The military base in Otar and the training ground are well known. Exercises are constantly held here, including among the SCO countries. There is a large storage base.
        One was seriously injured, others cost minor wounds. I do not think that the Angolans sent a weak calculation for such competitions. Let's hope that the fighter gets better (all delivered to the military hospital). hi
        1. Shurik70
          Shurik70 27 July 2016 22: 10
          +2
          Don't you think Angola bought the Ukrainian Hammer mortar?
          It is just 120mm and, judging by the photo, there is no protection against "double loading".
          Ukrainian guys on it were already blown up.
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    4. siberalt
      siberalt 27 July 2016 17: 36
      0
      Interesting of course. Is Angola nowhere to shoot? belay
      1. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 27 July 2016 17: 42
        +5
        Quote: siberalt
        Interesting of course. Is Angola nowhere to shoot?

        So the competition is international! Thirteen countries are involved.
        Angola also participated in the tank biathlon.
  2. Samen
    Samen 27 July 2016 15: 58
    +5
    Technogenesis: if a mortar exploded somewhere (a plane, a bus, etc. fell), wait for the mortar explosions in other places of the galaxy. Such a sad sign ((((
  3. Hunt
    Hunt 27 July 2016 15: 59
    +5
    Sorry guys! Weapons are not toys!
  4. hirurg
    hirurg 27 July 2016 15: 59
    -8
    It is dangerous to allow Angolans to compete.
    The level is low.
    And then a whole mortar.
    1. Pirogov
      Pirogov 27 July 2016 16: 21
      +11
      Quote: hirurg
      It is dangerous to allow Angolans to compete.
      The level is low.
      And then a whole mortar.

      This may be with everyone, I do not think that the leadership of Angola sent dummies.
      1. Verdun
        Verdun 27 July 2016 17: 29
        +7
        Quote: Pirogov
        It can be with everyone

        The mortar guard against double loading was developed by Nikolai Mikhailovich Afanasyev in 1943. They say, having learned that such a device was developed in the USSR, the Americans wanted to acquire a patent for its acquisition and filed an application with GAU. They were refused at the highest level - Stalin personally put the "Refuse" resolution on the document. To push two mines in a row into the barrel of a mortar, you need to deliberately remove or break this fuse. So this may not happen to everyone. However, to others, the brakes on the car seem like an unnecessary detail.
        1. Alex_Tug
          Alex_Tug 27 July 2016 17: 39
          -3
          the Americans wanted to acquire a patent for its acquisition and applied to GAU. They were refused at the highest level - Stalin personally put the "Refuse" resolution on the document.


          The short-sighted Stalin gave away for free.
          1. Alex_Tug
            Alex_Tug 28 July 2016 00: 04
            +1
            As a result, everyone put a fuse, but no one paid the USSR for a patent.
      2. sgazeev
        sgazeev 28 July 2016 10: 15
        0
        No matter how, their experience remained, along with the Cubans, the White Juarians were drunk.
    2. Berkut24
      Berkut24 27 July 2016 21: 02
      +5
      In 1982 he worked as a laboratory assistant at the Moscow Power Engineering Institute. The Lebanese, the Syrians, the Angolans and many others also studied with us. So Angola didn’t send anyone. All the guys were experienced in military operations. I remember the guy who was called "Colonel", they respected him very much. The guy was about 27 years old. He had a prosthetic right leg, and his arm was also severely injured. Angolans said that he had fought since he was 7 years old. A real jungle wolf, over 10 wounds. By the way, I learned Russian in a year, we had lectures only in Russian. In my third year in my laboratory, I was collecting radio circuits on the stand with one left.
      Believe me, these guys are very diligent, smart and very good fighters. They and Portugal gave a light and South Africa and UNITA. In addition, our specialists and Cubans fought in Angola.
      Anything can happen at the test site. In the army, almost all "children" play with dangerous toys.
  5. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 27 July 2016 16: 01
    -9
    Yeah, fools are beaten in the church too - they got used to sitting in palm trees with bananas in Angola, and this is a combat mine, and this is not a palm tree, but a fighting position, and the initiative can easily lead to fatal consequences. As the army deputy, who fought in Africa, including Angola, said in the army, discipline is completely absent there, and these officers (if they are from another tribe) are ignored, and this is still said mildly.
  6. black
    black 27 July 2016 16: 26
    +3
    Colonel Rozhkov (and he was an advisor in Angola) said correctly: "The equipment in the hands of the Ethiopian is a pile of iron."
    1. Verdun
      Verdun 27 July 2016 18: 12
      +3
      Quote: black
      Colonel Rozhkov (and he was an advisor in Angola) said correctly: "The equipment in the hands of the Ethiopian is a pile of iron."

      Are you sure that your friend was an adviser in Angola? repeat
      The main part of the people of Angola is made up of three ethnic groups: Ovimbundu (37%), Ambundu (Mbundu) (25%) and Bakongo (13%). The remaining Bantu-speaking peoples inhabiting the country are: Lunda, Chokwe, Gangela, Nyaneka Umbe, Ovambo, Herero and Shindonga. Non-Bantu-speaking peoples include the Bushmen. About 2% of the population are African-European mulattoes, 1% are white, mostly assimilated Portuguese. Ethno-Horonim - Angolans, Angolan and Angolan.
      And where are the Ethiopians? request
  7. Alex_Tug
    Alex_Tug 27 July 2016 16: 48
    +1
    black
    Colonel Rozhkov (and he was an advisor in Angola) said correctly: "The equipment in the hands of the Ethiopian is a pile of iron."


    Surely Ethiopian? And not a black man? Or combined in Ethiopia and did not overlook?
    1. Orionvit
      Orionvit 27 July 2016 18: 56
      -1
      Surely Ethiopian? And not a black man? Or combined in Ethiopia and did not overlook?
      Who cares? Or are Ethiopians not blacks? For me, are they all on one face, or have they forgotten about a monkey with a grenade? In my opinion this is really a lack of discipline and training, remember the recent explosion of the same grenade launcher in the Nikolaev region in Ukraine. Same.
      1. Verdun
        Verdun 27 July 2016 19: 10
        0
        Quote: Orionvit
        Who cares? Or are Ethiopians not blacks?

        I have one friend. He lived in various African countries for quite some time. So he is able to distinguish most of the ethnicities of black brothers by facial features and skin tones. smile
      2. Alex_Tug
        Alex_Tug 27 July 2016 19: 11
        +1
        Or are Ethiopians not blacks?


        Who is the national poet of Ethiopia? Alexander Sergeevich Pushkin.

        Mortar explosions? In Ukraine, it exploded. And in Kazakhstan? either exploded, or the Angolans were covered by friendly fire when they flooded somewhere. There is no reliable information.

        About Colonel Rozhkov. I joked, I had a lieutenant colonel as the curator of the group. He also worked as an adviser not in Angola, but in Ethiopia.
        1. Verdun
          Verdun 27 July 2016 21: 00
          +1
          Quote: Alex_Tug
          Mortar explosions? In Ukraine, it exploded. And in Kazakhstan?

          And no one knows, maybe from Ukraine there were deliveries of mortars to Angola or Kazakhstan? And the one here on the site the other day there was an article with photographs illustrating the high quality of the latest Ukrainian mortars ...
      3. Chisayna
        Chisayna 27 July 2016 19: 36
        0
        As for the smaller brothers with a grenade. An acquaintance was in Abkhazia, a volunteer in 1993, where the Georgians looted the monkey nursery. Well, the monkeys scattered around Sukhumi. He said, we’ll go along Sukhumi, a flock of trees on the trees. You throw them an orange, they catch this aflesun , fight and then eat. Here, and then says you throw them, RGD, they catch ...
  8. engineer74
    engineer74 27 July 2016 16: 49
    +3
    The Kazakhstani command declares that before the start of training, all the military personnel involved in the competitions underwent appropriate training.

    There is a suspicion that the briefing was in Kazakh ... smile I could not resist.
    The wounded - a speedy recovery! Mind already typed, probably ...
    1. Mowgli
      Mowgli 27 July 2016 19: 07
      +3
      There is a suspicion that the briefing was in Kazakh


      No, in Kazakhstan, the language interethnic communication is russian.
      Apparently, the instruction was conducted in Russian.
      Using untranslatable idiomatic expressions.
      The Angolans didn’t translate ...
  9. sabakina
    sabakina 27 July 2016 17: 07
    +3
    They are without coordination with the command and the chief of firing tried to change their positions and left the trench. Moreover, it is reported thatThe reason for the rupture of ammunition could be the so-called double loading. This was reported by the press service of the Ministry of Defense of the Republic of Kazakhstan.

    I can’t understand what is the reason and what is the consequence. In inconsistency or double loading?
    1. Alex_Tug
      Alex_Tug 27 July 2016 17: 44
      +2
      what is the reason and what is the consequence


      Reason - left the trench. Concussed by friendly fire.
      The reason is double loading. There is already a fatal outcome (cargo 200)
  10. Khariton
    Khariton 27 July 2016 17: 13
    +2
    Brothers Kazakhs, you are more careful there with "comrades from Africa", stay away from them ...)))))
  11. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 27 July 2016 17: 33
    +1
    Quote: Chariton
    Brothers Kazakhs, you are more careful there with "comrades from Africa", stay away from them ...)))))


    Oh, where are you Cubans? There were specific guys, and the Ethiopian Angolans did not mow for some reason ...
    1. Talgat
      Talgat 27 July 2016 18: 25
      +5
      Yes, the Cubans fought for Angola in their own way and fought "on a level". Cuba is not alone now - there are 9 or 10 countries in the Bolivarian Union. but there is no longer the USSR to send them somewhere and China is not yet mature enough to do the same
      1. Khariton
        Khariton 27 July 2016 20: 36
        +1
        Quote: Talgat
        but there is no longer the USSR to send them somewhere and so far China has not matured to do the same

        Well, it’s too early to discard Russia, we’ll deal with it on the continent and take care of the American continent ... We’ll have to do something for anyone, they put their nose in all our affairs, it’s time for us to answer something because we can! soldier
        1. Talgat
          Talgat 28 July 2016 16: 18
          +3
          Something I really fell into pessimism - you are actually right - Russia is the center of attraction of the peoples of the USSR and the probable core of the future Eurasian Union

          And such a Union - may well repeat the movements of the USSR and oppose the West and the USA playing all geopolitical games - including support for Cuba and all 10 Bolivarian countries
          That is, it is likely that not only China will become the main opponent of the West - but also the EAC

          Therefore, perhaps the United States and the West are so desperately trying to prevent Eurasian integration - Ukraine has already been torn off for a long time - they are trying to drive wedges between other peoples

          I don’t understand why you are put a minus for this idea
  12. kvv1969
    kvv1969 27 July 2016 20: 35
    0
    Disqualification stop Otherwise they will kill themselves and cripple others
  13. Sergey-72
    Sergey-72 27 July 2016 22: 54
    +2
    It happens ..., it's life.
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  15. Ferdinant
    Ferdinant 28 July 2016 06: 43
    0
    Mavpochok softly
  16. vadimtt
    vadimtt 28 July 2016 09: 48
    0
    No data. Judging by the severity - friendly fire. And if you worked at a rate of fire and there was a delay, then you could meet two mines above the pipe, but then the whole calculation is two hundredths.
  17. Orionvit
    Orionvit 28 July 2016 17: 33
    0
    Quote: Verdun
    Quote: Orionvit
    Who cares? Or are Ethiopians not blacks?

    I have one friend. He lived in various African countries for quite some time. So he is able to distinguish most of the ethnicities of black brothers by facial features and skin tones. smile

    But I have no such acquaintances, and I myself have not lived in Africa. If you are a dark-skinned "brother", then you are definitely not for him. Likewise, we, for blacks, Asians, other aborigines, are also indistinguishable. Anecdote in the subject. Two Japanese arrived in Moscow. They see in the hotel how they come out of the elevator - an Azerbaijani, an Armenian and a Georgian. One Japanese says to another, - "I told you that all Russians look the same."