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Media: Russia handed Su-24М2 bombers to the Syrian air force

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SAR Air Force received front-line bombers Su-24M2, which were transferred by the Russian side to strengthen the Syrian strike capabilities aviation, Said Military Informant.


Media: Russia handed Su-24М2 bombers to the Syrian air force


“The upgraded Su-24М2 front-line bombers were transferred from the presence of the Air Force of the Russian Federation as part of military-technical assistance to the Syrian Army in the fight against the Islamic State terrorist group”,
told the portal's own correspondent.

According to unconfirmed information, while the Syrian Air Force received the 2 of the aircraft, "further 8 combat vehicles will be transferred further," the article says.

According to the resource, “the Su-24М2 bomber is a further (after the Su-24M) modernization of the Russian Su-24 combat aircraft and is distinguished by an improved version of the AIR and the extended list of weapons used.”

It is noted that now in the composition of high-precision weapons aircraft "includes missiles X-31P and X-59M." Also Su-24М2 "can use free-falling bombs with a complex flight path."
Photos used:
Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation
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  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 27 July 2016 10: 51
    +21
    That is right. ISIS will now show what halva is.
    1. Sharapov
      Sharapov 27 July 2016 11: 54
      +5
      Of course, this is good, but I'm not sure that the Syrians will have the money to buy high-precision missiles for these aircraft.
      So there are 2 options: either we will give them these missiles, or they will only use free-falling bombs.
      1. Alekseev
        Alekseev 27 July 2016 12: 13
        +13
        Quote: Sharapov
        Of course it's good

        YES.
        Quote: Sharapov
        So there are 2 options: either we will give them these missiles, or they will only use free-falling bombs.

        Another option is that we ourselves will purchase rockets and bombs from ourselves and spend them in Syria. laughing
        But let the Syrians do it better themselves. With our help, of course. We need to teach and equip Assad's aviation so that it can effectively destroy the Barmalei by the thousands, but under our vigilant control.
        1. Temples
          Temples 27 July 2016 13: 21
          +22
          Now the Syrians themselves will be able to bombard American "secret" bases.

          And we will be indignant at the treacherous interference of foreigners in the internal affairs of the Syrians.
      2. Berkut24
        Berkut24 27 July 2016 12: 23
        +26
        1) It’s good that they transmitted, even if it’s free. On one side, the Syrians no longer have to crawl on their belly in the MANPADS zone on machines that are falling apart from old age.
        2) It’s okay to give ammunition. Now there is a war in which our problems are being resolved. We already have losses. If the Syrians have the means to strike in order to replace our pilots and planes, then this is only a plus. For our bookkeeping anyway, who is in the cockpit and whose plane. All the same, we almost completely pay for air support. But now we will risk less with our people.
      3. g1v2
        g1v2 27 July 2016 12: 51
        +31
        There is no one to shoot at with precision missiles so far, full load with old fabs is what you need. Well, the meaning of the transfer is simple. Firstly, the Babakhs and Blacks have now increased their MANPADS, as evidenced by the massive air fall of the Syrians. The Syrians are bombing from old aircraft that are not imprisoned under the ground (L39, Migi, etc.) and therefore seem to work from not too high altitudes. These su24m2 will give the Syrians the opportunity to work from heights above 5 thousand, where the homeless people can no longer get them.
        Secondly, the Su24 will still be decommissioned until 2020 as it is replaced with the Su34, which is better than cutting the Syrians in a couple of years.
        In general, it’s good for us - we don’t have to bother with recycling, and we’ll get something for them, and the Syrians are good — they will be able to work from a safe height and not lose pilots in such numbers. soldier
        1. alexmach
          alexmach 27 July 2016 23: 07
          +1
          Secondly, the Su24 will still be decommissioned until 2020 as it is replaced with the Su34, which is better than cutting the Syrians in a couple of years.


          It’s not a fact that until 2020 they can be replaced by 34. It’s certainly not in a 1: 1 ratio. Although there are not so many of them modernized + resource development + the Syrians still need them like air.
      4. sharp-lad
        sharp-lad 27 July 2016 13: 19
        +4
        The ability to bomb from complex trajectories alone is worth a lot.
      5. Alex_Tug
        Alex_Tug 27 July 2016 13: 27
        +6
        Sharapov
        2 options: either we will give these missiles to them, or they will only use free-falling bombs.


        The videoconferencing system also uses mostly free-falling bombs in Syria. Rather, the problem is different. In Syria, bombs are already being produced in a makeshift way. Does the aiming complex take into account the size of bombs? aerodynamics has not been canceled. Those. and they will have to plant bombs.
      6. Koshak
        Koshak 27 July 2016 13: 30
        +9
        Quote: Sharapov
        Of course, this is good, but I'm not sure that the Syrians will have the money to buy high-precision missiles for these aircraft.
        So there are 2 options: either we will give them these missiles, or they will only use free-falling bombs.

        Ours also in the vast majority of attacks use free-falling bombs. Thanks to the use of specialized computing subsystems SVP-24 "Hephaestus", they have become comparable in accuracy with correctable batteries.
      7. gladcu2
        gladcu2 27 July 2016 14: 45
        +7
        Sharapov

        High-precision missiles do not need to be bought. Enough free-falling bombs.

        At VO, there was an article about SU-24 guidance systems, when automatically according to GLONASS, the plane is displayed at the point of bombing. Automation itself drops a bomb, taking into account all the attendant factors.
      8. Idiot
        Idiot 27 July 2016 18: 16
        +4
        High-precision weapon systems will also be transferred as consumables. And why not, if the goals remained the same? What is the difference of what nationality will the pilot be if he is sufficiently effective? At least our pilots will not risk their lives ...
      9. mr.redpartizan
        mr.redpartizan 27 July 2016 18: 56
        +1
        Expired missiles will be used. Their disposal costs money.
      10. weksha50
        weksha50 27 July 2016 19: 43
        0
        Quote: Sharapov
        or we will give them these missiles, or they will only use free-falling bombs.


        In fact, many sources talked about transferring dryers to the safe use of free-falling bombs ...
        Not a word about rockets ...
    2. vodolaz
      vodolaz 27 July 2016 14: 11
      +5
      They did the right thing, otherwise the Syrians will soon have nothing to fly on, again we must put the 24th somewhere, because the machines are not of the first freshness and they still have to be removed from service.
  2. cosmos-PS
    cosmos-PS 27 July 2016 10: 53
    +3
    Correct the title, but somehow it is not very understood .....
    1. Koshak
      Koshak 27 July 2016 14: 13
      0
      Quote: cosmos-PS
      Correct the title, but somehow it is not very understood .....

      What is incomprehensible? "Russia handed over Su-24M2 bombers to the Syrian Air Force." Everything is clear, but if you don't understand why, read the article.
  3. Skubudu
    Skubudu 27 July 2016 10: 54
    +8
    It would be nice to train the Syrian pilots to correctly and efficiently apply and maintain the SU-24 so that there are no losses.
    1. jjj
      jjj 27 July 2016 11: 28
      +13
      I believe that at first they trained, and then the cars were transferred
    2. Turkestan
      Turkestan 27 July 2016 11: 45
      +3
      Indeed, the SU-24 is a very complex aircraft. You can’t do without retraining
    3. ProkletyiPirat
      ProkletyiPirat 27 July 2016 11: 54
      +2
      yes already trained, in haste, though only the crew, all our techniques ...
      1. Koshak
        Koshak 27 July 2016 14: 24
        +4
        Quote: ProkletyiPirat
        yes already trained, in haste, though only the crew, all our techniques ...

        Where does this information come from? The Su-24 in the Syrian Air Force operated since 1989. And what, all this time with untrained pilots and technicians? Nonsense.
    4. vv3
      vv3 27 July 2016 13: 07
      -1
      I serviced this aircraft, and I affirm that only ours can service and efficiently use this aircraft. The V-1x is a front-line bomber and there are few goals for it in Syria. These are only oil refineries, bearded stationary headquarters and warehouses. In 2, it’s a very expensive and old plane to maintain, it is not needed in Syria, there is simply nothing more. If its Syrians will be used as an attack aircraft, then for a very short time ... There will be losses ... It’s better to take it back, honestly .. It very much resembles Chinese help or in Russian that they don’t look in the teeth of a gifted horse .... We don’t have light bombers at all ...., the niche is empty ... We must give attack helicopters with unguided weapons ...
      1. gladcu2
        gladcu2 27 July 2016 14: 51
        +4
        vv3

        They will not be used as an attack aircraft. There are no fools.
        1. vv3
          vv3 27 July 2016 15: 07
          +1
          And how do they use SU-22M4? Like an attack aircraft. They cannot explain why for a long time, but they cannot do otherwise. And the SU-24M2 can only be used that way, because they are not fools. Clear. And you have a question, what is the SU-24M2? Is it modified by the Sukhoi SU-24M firm, or also with the Hephaestus system? Are you in the subject, or drink tea like that? ...
          1. gladcu2
            gladcu2 27 July 2016 18: 19
            0
            Watching how to understand. I am not a narrow specialist. I’m also sitting in VO, I read various information for 8 hours a day. Therefore, I have a confident point of view.

            Just logic says that the Su-24M does not have, should not have weapons for a direct attack of ground targets at direct range shots. Attack aircraft. It has a different specificity. And use so suicidally.
            1. vv3
              vv3 27 July 2016 19: 05
              -5
              Well, then you were in the piggy bank when the SU-24 was being developed, then you considered it an attack aircraft, and the MIS-P inertial system is on this plane, probably a lightweight ship version. The full exhibition mode before the flight in the double gyrocompassing mode is 1 hour and 20 minutes. There is no logic in our airplanes.
              1. vv3
                vv3 30 July 2016 11: 02
                +1
                What, for the "logic" minus me? Everything else is facts. It is difficult to understand the logic of amateurs.
      2. alexmach
        alexmach 27 July 2016 23: 10
        0
        Well, they still use Albatrosses for air strikes now.
      3. Simpsonian
        Simpsonian 30 July 2016 11: 10
        0
        We must give everything before it is too late ...

        There is so much slipped that not only for the Su-24, even for the Tu-22 there are enough goals.
    5. tomket
      tomket 27 July 2016 14: 19
      +2
      Quote: Skubudu
      It would be nice to train the Syrian pilots to correctly and efficiently apply and maintain the SU-24 so that there are no losses.

      Syria had its own Su-Xnumx. Not for the first time they are seen.
  4. Grach710
    Grach710 27 July 2016 10: 54
    +3
    Probably passed, but not betrayed hi
    1. Alex777
      Alex777 27 July 2016 10: 57
      +7
      It would be even better: sold.
      1. My doctor
        My doctor 27 July 2016 11: 23
        +5
        Quote: Alex777
        It would be even better: sold.

        So then it is, but about 30 aircraft, and wear and tear probably already affects. Apparently they considered that it was no longer safe for them to work at maximum with due opposition from the enemy air forces and air defense. So they pass to the Syrians so that they can calmly refine their century, since terrorists do not have the means to destroy aircraft of this class.
        1. maiman61
          maiman61 27 July 2016 12: 16
          +3
          Modernization implies that the aircraft is as good as new!
          1. sharp-lad
            sharp-lad 27 July 2016 13: 21
            +1
            Glider as good as new only immediately after construction.
        2. Alex777
          Alex777 27 July 2016 16: 49
          +1
          Quote: MyVrach
          Quote: Alex777
          It would be even better: sold.

          So then it is, but about 30 aircraft, and wear and tear probably already affects. Apparently they considered that it was no longer safe for them to work at maximum with due opposition from the enemy air forces and air defense. So they pass to the Syrians so that they can calmly refine their century, since terrorists do not have the means to destroy aircraft of this class.

          For the Syrians with the MIG-21, the SU-24M2 is a great progress.
      2. gray smeet
        gray smeet 27 July 2016 11: 25
        -6
        Quote: Alex777
        It would be even better: sold.


        Wok like you ... minus! Interesting patriotism in VO! wassat

        The logic is terrible - to transfer to Armata, it is possible to transfer the nuclear submarines, even one, from us.
        But, inside the country ... - There is no money, all the best!
  5. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 27 July 2016 10: 59
    +13
    At last.
    I was surprised that so far the Syrians have not been given
    new planes. And then they fly already half-ruins.
    1. avt
      avt 27 July 2016 11: 05
      +11
      Quote: voyaka uh
      At last.
      I was surprised that so far the Syrians have not been given
      new planes. And then they fly already half-ruins.

      request Well, at least it was necessary to retrain for a new type of crew, then again to train the application as part of a group of troops. Well, I suppose with Israel it was not one day that we agreed. I won’t believe for anything that the Jews just waved their hands - it’s not our business; fly Assad falcons whatever you want. bully
      1. ssdfrf
        ssdfrf 27 July 2016 11: 41
        .
        Quote: avt
        Quote: voyaka uh
        At last.
        I was surprised that so far the Syrians have not been given
        new planes. And then they fly already half-ruins.

        request Well, at least it was necessary to retrain for a new type of crew, then again to train the application as part of a group of troops. Well, I suppose with Israel it was not one day that we agreed. I won’t believe for anything that the Jews just waved their hands - it’s not our business; fly Assad falcons whatever you want. bully

        It’s very strange, Shark, it turns out that Russia takes into account the interests of Israel in Syria and coordinates with him the transfer of planes to the Syrians, and it, Russia, does not take into account the interests of its CSTO ally, since the Armenian leadership has repeatedly begged the Russian leadership not to sell weapons to Azerbaijan, what got the answer:
        "We sold and we will sell!", Which is not surprising, because Armenia is not an ally for Russia, but a cheap six, with which you can not stand on ceremony, and you should not behave like that with Israel, he may be offended, isn't it, Shark. What do you say, I want to hear your smart arguments.
        1. ssdfrf
          ssdfrf 27 July 2016 12: 07
          -9
          Shark, why put a quiet minus, justify your minus. Once again I will write, I do not care about your minuses, do you think that Russia takes into account the interests of Israel more than its ally, right?
        2. g1v2
          g1v2 27 July 2016 13: 06
          +22
          Both Armenia and Azerbaijan are former republics of the USSR and both of us are equally interesting in principle. In Armenia, the base, in Azerbaijan, the radar again agreed to build. We do not need Azerbaijan’s departure for the Turks, and if the Turks supply weapons there, it will be inevitable. recourse
          Getting involved in dividing the land between the two former republics is completely uninteresting to us, since we have nothing to do with this. If you want to consolidate the territory deprived of Azeri - for God's sake, Azeri want to return it - the same thing. What are we doing? We deliver weapons to you at a discount, on credit, etc., and Azeri for hard currency. In my opinion, the more we sell, the better our VPK. Want to have more weapons - buy, sell at a discount. wink
          Well, about the six. At one time, the Armenians so wanted independence that they even refused to hold a referendum on preserving the USSR, and Azerbaijan, by the way, held and voted to preserve the union. Forgot? Well, now you are super-incumbent and should not obey Moscow. But Moscow is also not obliged to take care of you. What, the economy of Armenia fell ill with independence? Well, they themselves wanted a better life - here it is. Who the hell is not to hell with us taking care of our economy - this is no longer our concern. Stir yourself.
          Well, as for the ally - let's not grimace. We are allies because Armenia has no other choice. Let's leave - the Turks will come. Erdogan loves Armenians very much and without our protection the Armenians will quickly get to know his love. hi
          1. ssdfrf
            ssdfrf 27 July 2016 13: 41
            0
            Firstly, Azerbaijan cooperates with the Turks in the military sphere and Turkey supplies a large range of weapons there, so your thesis is that if we do not supply weapons there, Azerbaijan will go to Turkey - it does not work.
            Secondly, no construction of a new radar is provided, unless, of course, my interlocutor is not from the General Staff and does not have insider information. The construction of a new radar in Azerbaijan is pointless, because the Armavir radar completely fulfills the functions of the closed Gabala radar.
            As for the supply of weapons to Armenia, I was already tortured to write that Russia has not supplied Armenia with a single cartridge over the past 3 years, either at a discount or without. At the same time, it was repeatedly written at the military administration that Ukraine received hundreds of millions of weapons from the USA dollars in the form of free military assistance.
            As for the referendum, if Azerbaijan voted to preserve the USSR, then where is it. It’s you yourself, the Russians, together with the Ukrainians and Belarusians who have ruined the Union, it’s not good to engage in demagogy and present the situation in such a way that the Armenians have ruined the USSR.
            If you imagine that the Armenians have nowhere to go and the Turks will "kill" us, then you will recall the comments on VO three years ago, when you wrote: "Where are these Ukrainians going from us!" You perfectly understand that any people have something to do with and with Azerbaijan, the Armenians can make peace and you will not be present in the region, that is why you, Russians, so zealously support the cannibalistic regime of the current "president" of Armenia. I have nothing to add, I am everything said.
            1. g1v2
              g1v2 27 July 2016 21: 01
              +4
              Collaborates, of course, but to certain limits, PRESERVING INDEPENDENCE. If I quarrel with them, they will completely go under the Turks, which is disadvantageous to us. The construction of a new radar station was announced after negotiations between Putin and Aliyev a few months ago. There is no insider here. This is not about restoring the Gabala radar station, but about a completely new station. As for deliveries to Armenia, there were several agreements on providing weapons on credit. I don’t follow the dispatch of armaments, if something is delivered or not, I don’t know.
              As for the collapse, they all correctly collapsed themselves, but you demanded independence even earlier, and you refused the referendum, believing that only evil Russians prevent you from living. Well, rejoice - you are an independent. You are not comparing yourself with Ukraine in vain - Ukraine did not have such a situation.
              As for disappearing - in the Caucasus, only two countries decide everything - Russia and Turkey. Only they can guarantee you something - protection there or preferences in trade. Do you want in NATO under Uncle Sam after the Georgians? Go ahead and with the song. But only a lot of Georgians helped NATO? I repeat - Russia or Turkey, you have no other real options. Agree with Azerbaijan? That is, give the NKR and the occupied areas? So what is the problem then? And there will be no war. I doubt something. belay We will be present in the region anyway, as it is planned that South Ossetia will become part of the Russian Federation. We already have a base there, in Abkhazia, too, moving property from Gyumri there is not a problem. Or even with Azeri we’ll agree on a base. wink Again, there is a base in Syria - we will not be lost. The base in Gyumri is needed first of all not for us, but for you so that in case of what you could hold out under the Turkish strike while we and Georgia agree on the passage. Need not? Yes, for God's sake - not scared. As for the cannibalistic regime in Armenia, he smiled. belay I used to think. that cannibals rule only in Africa, but it turns out that Armenia and Africa are somewhere nearby. lol I’ll honestly say - to us on the drum who rules you. Whom you choose, we will work with that. Although I would advise you to recall the cannibalistic regime of Yanukovych, which Ukraine now needs to strive for as a dream. request
              Well, in general, I read several translated articles from Armenian newspapers and they smelled great from the Maidan. If you do not understand that you are bred as suckers, and after the Maidan you will begin to live only worse - Maidan as much as you like. Stock up on popcorn. hi
        3. sharp-lad
          sharp-lad 27 July 2016 13: 24
          +7
          Or maybe it would be nice for Armenia itself to completely decide who it is with? And at times it begins to resemble Ukraine before the Maidan corruption!
        4. avt
          avt 27 July 2016 13: 28
          +8
          Quote: ssdfrf
          Very strange, Shark, it turns out, Russia takes into account

          Why is that strange? Israel is in fact the strongest and most nuclear state in the region, abruptly Turkey however, but why go into the counter? Enough adventurous ala Darago Nykyta Serneevich with his socialism-communism in the region. It is a completely pragmatic approach to achieve the result of the right Russia, without undue stress and excesses and to the benefit of Syria.
          Quote: ssdfrf
          Shark, why quietly put minus, justify your minus

          Wai Mae ! Listen! And how do you determine who puts you a minus? fool Uhhhh! Teach, huh? wassat
          Quote: ssdfrf
          it turns out that Russia takes into account the interests of Israel more than its ally, so what?

          Wai Mae ! Who else can moan, but not the Armenians who receive weapons on credit and the Russian one. Again, you keep the Turkish border yourself? Here is what Erdogan Pasha Crazy would have prescribed if there were no Russian bases with aviation and air defense? Think mana weasel reluctance? Like it's not our business to think, our business to be proud of the dreanism of the family from Noah? Again, personally, I am a sinner here on the site always quoted the king - father Sasha # 3 - "Russia has TWO loyal allies, its Army and Navy ..."
          1. ssdfrf
            ssdfrf 27 July 2016 14: 09
            -9
            And, the Shark appeared in person, the pride of the site and the defender of the course of the party and government. I see no reason to answer you, since I already answered with a comment above, I will only say that I speak excellent Russian and your distortion of the Russian language is out of place.
            I apologize for thinking that you are a minus signer, but, dear, Russia will not be able to help my country with anything, there aren’t any people left in it, at such a pace, after ten years, Azerbaijan will calmly enter and take the whole country, and you keep the bases, in order to support his six sergeik, for this s.uka will leave, the new government will make peace with Azerbaijan and Turkey, and you will leave here. You even came up with the Armenian genocide to keep Armenians in fear.
            1. avt
              avt 27 July 2016 15: 50
              +8
              Quote: ssdfrf
              And, the Shark appeared in person, the pride of the site and the defender of the course of the party and government. I see no reason to answer you,

              wassat and with some fright, then we’ll burst out with a comment !? Ahhhhhhhh! I don’t see any sense in answering, but I can’t keep silent! In the sense of meaning I do not see. laughing
              Quote: ssdfrf
              .You even came up with the Armenian Genocide to keep Armenians in fear.

              And then, on the ruins of the chapel .... Excuse me, but did we also ruin the chapel? laughing And right EVERYTHING in the world makes him recognize, even the Turks!
              Quote: ssdfrf
              , the new government will conclude a world with Azerbaijan and Turkey and you will leave here.

              Yes, no question! That's how they left Georgia, and we’ll leave Armenia. Do yours leave Russia for the vacated place? Well, to prove to the Turks the lack of genocide invented by the Russianswassat
              Quote: ssdfrf
              Why should Armenia be hung up on recognizing South Ossetia and Abkhazia as "independent" if Russia did not act similarly with Karabakh?

              good laughing Did Armenia itself recognize Karabakh? I’m not in a fucking class. Honestly - I need your graters to the lamp, do you want to cut each other in the civil war? Wellcome that Hell, current as the great Ukrainians will again dump your stupidity on us, well, we are used to all of you so ancient, powerful, proud.
            2. Idiot
              Idiot 27 July 2016 18: 28
              +3
              Quote: ssdfrf
              You even came up with the Armenian Genocide to keep Armenians in fear.


              Not yourself! As a respected Lavrov, I would like to answer, but I do not accept plagiarism ...
            3. weksha50
              weksha50 27 July 2016 19: 53
              +1
              Quote: ssdfrf
              You even came up with the Armenian Genocide to keep Armenians in fear.



              Ahem ... Well, this is already too much ... belay

              Anyway, should Armenia (from many republics of the USSR) be offended by the USSR-Russia?
              Maybe - calm down, throw your emotions aside, think soberly?
        5. SeregaBoss
          SeregaBoss 27 July 2016 13: 41
          +5
          Well, to put it mildly, Armenia is such an ally with a hut on the edge, where was the hot southern ally when South Ossetia, Abkhazia was recognized by the Russian Federation? And in the Crimea?
          On the sale of weapons: will not sell the Russian Federation - will sell another, so why should the Russian Federation lose the revenue item?
          So your grievances are your problems! (From arshavin you hot pruvet)
          1. ssdfrf
            ssdfrf 27 July 2016 14: 00
            -4
            Quote: Serge Boss
            Well, to put it mildly, Armenia is such an ally with a hut on the edge, where was the hot southern ally when South Ossetia, Abkhazia was recognized by the Russian Federation? And in the Crimea?
            On the sale of weapons: will not sell the Russian Federation - will sell another, so why should the Russian Federation lose the revenue item?
            So your grievances are your problems! (From arshavin you hot pruvet)

            Why should Armenia be hung up on recognizing South Ossetia and Abkhazia as "independent" if Russia did not act similarly with Karabakh?
            1. Alex_Tug
              Alex_Tug 27 July 2016 14: 53
              +4
              ssdfrf
              Why should Armenia be hung up on recognizing South Ossetia and Abkhazia as "independent" if Russia did not act similarly with Karabakh?


              - South Ossetia and Abkhazia are your neighbors. If you do not have common interests with them, then you may not recognize it. If recognized, then most likely your task in Karabakh has been facilitated. (personal opinion)
              - Russia still has not recognized Kosovo. (geopolitics)
            2. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky 27 July 2016 18: 19
              +3
              Quote: ssdfrf
              Why should Armenia be hung up on recognizing South Ossetia and Abkhazia as "independent" if Russia did not act similarly with Karabakh?

              It seems that this is none other than "razmik".
              With reincarnation)))
              Why are doctors taken hostage?
              1. avt
                avt 27 July 2016 19: 03
                +2
                Quote: Nyrobsky
                Why are doctors taken hostage?

                Uh-uh-uh! These are the wrong doctors of Sargsyan, and therefore they are not doctors at all - you can take hostages to "respected people" with a gun. wassat
        6. Alex_Tug
          Alex_Tug 27 July 2016 13: 42
          +2
          ssdfrf
          "We sold and we will sell!", Which is not surprising, because Armenia is not an ally for Russia


          - "We have sold and we will sell!" Nobody canceled commerce.
          - Armenia is not an ally? Then why is the Russian base in Armenia?
    2. DMB_95
      DMB_95 27 July 2016 11: 08
      +4
      Quote: voyaka uh
      At last.
      I was surprised that so far the Syrians have not been given
      new planes. And then they fly already half-ruins.

      Training probably went on. Su-shki modernized, new (for Syrians) means of destruction, avionics ..
    3. mr.Evil
      mr.Evil 27 July 2016 12: 02
      +1
      +1 It’s high time. Everything was planned to be written off by the year 20. The problem I think in the training of staff was a very moody plane.
  6. Arkan
    Arkan 27 July 2016 10: 59
    +4
    Fine! There will be something to iron Syria scumbags.
  7. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 27 July 2016 11: 01
    +4
    Exactly. Themselves must free themselves. SAMI. And then they are used to hoping for an uncle.
    1. rabbi's pais
      rabbi's pais 27 July 2016 11: 29
      +1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Exactly. Themselves must free themselves. SAMI. And then they are used to hoping for an uncle.

      Here, here, here. And yet ALL IMPORT COUNTRIES they must, at their own expense, pay all sorts of different things. And then they’re used to getting everything for free from their uncle.
  8. Skifotavr
    Skifotavr 27 July 2016 11: 02
    +5
    I have never heard of such generosity from the United States.
    1. Dimy4
      Dimy4 27 July 2016 11: 07
      +14
      To be generous, you need to have a soul, and there its place is filled with money. Since the formation of the state.
    2. sgazeev
      sgazeev 27 July 2016 11: 20
      0
      Quote: Skifotavr
      I have never heard of such generosity from the United States.

      What about Snowden? They sent them, we do not give out our own.
      1. Idiot
        Idiot 27 July 2016 18: 32
        0
        Snowden is somehow muddy, like Assange. Both look like part of some sort of multi-way ...
    3. Anatole Klim
      Anatole Klim 27 July 2016 11: 23
      +1
      Quote: Skifotavr
      I have never heard of such generosity from the United States.


      According to the new official report of the US government on assistance to foreign countries (US State Government 2013-2015 Foreign Assistance), about $ 5,9 billion was spent in 2014 only on military financing of other countries.
      This amount is equivalent to 17% of the $ 35 billion of all allocated funds to help other countries.
      At the same time, the amount of military assistance allocated by the United States varies from $ 200 thousand to $ 3,1 billion.
      The 10 largest recipients look like this:
      Country Amount
      Israel $ 3,1 billion
      Egypt $ 1,3 billion
      Iraq $ 300 million
      Jordan $ 300 million
      Pakistan $ 280 million
      Lebanon $ 75 million
      Philippines $ 50 million
      Colombia $ 29 million
      Tunisia $ 20 million
      http://yvision.kz/post/637612
      1. Muvka
        Muvka 27 July 2016 11: 34
        +3
        Quote: Anatole Klim
        Quote: Skifotavr
        I have never heard of such generosity from the United States.


        According to the new official report of the US government on assistance to foreign countries (US State Government 2013-2015 Foreign Assistance), about $ 5,9 billion was spent in 2014 only on military financing of other countries.
        This amount is equivalent to 17% of the $ 35 billion of all allocated funds to help other countries.
        At the same time, the amount of military assistance allocated by the United States varies from $ 200 thousand to $ 3,1 billion.
        The 10 largest recipients look like this:
        Country Amount
        Israel $ 3,1 billion
        Egypt $ 1,3 billion
        Iraq $ 300 million
        Jordan $ 300 million
        Pakistan $ 280 million
        Lebanon $ 75 million
        Philippines $ 50 million
        Colombia $ 29 million
        Tunisia $ 20 million
        http://yvision.kz/post/637612

        Are loan amounts allocated so that they buy old trash for the same money? Example Ukraine. Cool!
        1. Anatole Klim
          Anatole Klim 27 July 2016 11: 45
          +1
          Quote: Muvka
          Are loan amounts allocated so that they buy old trash for the same money? Example Ukraine.

          It’s not a loan, it’s military aid, they don’t deliver trash to Israel, Egypt, Pakistan, because it’s not Ukraine or Uzbekistan.
      2. Idiot
        Idiot 27 July 2016 18: 36
        +1
        And what not to allocate something? He turned on the machine, turned it a couple of times - one hundred billion at the exit. The paper was cut and handed out to the afflicted. And lately, they have not spent money on paper, - they draw zeros in a calculator. They’ll shove their old rubbish for this amount, and here’s a cash supply for you ...
    4. My doctor
      My doctor 27 July 2016 11: 49
      0
      Quote: Skifotavr
      I have never heard of such generosity from the United States.

      Really YOU are not tired of opposing yourself to this and in everything? Transfer of used equipment to the country on which it was based is the usual practice, but there are also cases of transfer from the United States with a refund for the delivery by the recipient of the "gift".
    5. ssdfrf
      ssdfrf 27 July 2016 11: 51
      -3
      Quote: Skifotavr
      I have never heard of such generosity from the United States.

      The United States transfers hundreds of millions of dollars worth of arms to your Ukraine, if you haven’t heard, then you have hearing problems. I’ve heard about this in Armenia. Unmanned aerial vehicles, jeeps for patrolling, radar for detecting artillery fire, uniforms are all free US aid to Ukraine. hi
      1. Skifotavr
        Skifotavr 27 July 2016 14: 21
        +4
        It’s a pity that nothing fell into your Armenia sad
    6. maiman61
      maiman61 27 July 2016 12: 22
      +4
      If memory serves, $ 2 billion in annual aid to Egypt, a few lards to Israel, paid for dozens of Mi-8 helicopters for Afghanistan, etc.!
      1. ssdfrf
        ssdfrf 27 July 2016 12: 30
        0
        Quote: maiman61
        If memory serves, $ 2 billion in annual aid to Egypt, a few lards to Israel, paid for dozens of Mi-8 helicopters for Afghanistan, etc.!

        Sorry, friend, I wanted to put a plus for your comment on the point, but today I registered and so far I can’t hi .
    7. Alex_Tug
      Alex_Tug 27 July 2016 13: 47
      0
      I have never heard of such generosity from the United States


      Just did not hear. As a fact there is. Money is received for technical support.
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  10. iliya87
    iliya87 27 July 2016 11: 11
    +1
    Is there a place for generosity in such a big game? Certainly cold and accurate calculation. Faster would be this disgrace in Syria and began to invest there, the return will be colossal.
    1. ssdfrf
      ssdfrf 27 July 2016 12: 01
      -2
      Quote: iliya87
      Is there a place for generosity in such a big game? Certainly cold and accurate calculation. Faster would be this disgrace in Syria and began to invest there, the return will be colossal.

      If the "hot" phase of the civil war in Syria ends, then a "cold" civil war will smolder there for many decades, no one in their right mind will make investments in this country, instead of profit from investments, the investor risks getting a bullet in the forehead.
      1. Idiot
        Idiot 27 July 2016 18: 45
        +1
        The main investment in Syria has already been made - the country has been preserved as a state, although it is still not quite in the form it was before the civil war, but the restoration process has been launched, and the presence of Russian bases is a guarantee of its irreversibility. The main goal of our presence there is geopolitical dominance in the region and, as a result, is to prevent the traffic of Middle Eastern energy resources to Europe ...
  11. RuslanNN
    RuslanNN 27 July 2016 11: 21
    +3
    Quote: Skifotavr
    I have never heard of such generosity from the United States.

    Why, they don’t give so many weapons for free.
  12. black
    black 27 July 2016 11: 21
    0
    If only it did not work out as in that proverb, about technology and Ethiopian. And with a microscope, you can hammer nails.
  13. drunkram
    drunkram 27 July 2016 11: 32
    +1
    It is interesting to know from a knowledgeable person, does the Su-24M2 have the ability to place air-to-air missiles on the suspensions? for protection from partners
    1. Alex_Tug
      Alex_Tug 27 July 2016 13: 53
      +1
      drunkram
      Does the Su-24M2 have the ability to place air-to-air missiles on suspensions? for protection from partners


      Pendants are not unified? Rather, the question of the aiming system, i.e. to avionics. (As an option, I don’t understand something)
    2. mr.redpartizan
      mr.redpartizan 27 July 2016 19: 11
      0
      Can carry missiles for close combat R-60 with IR seeker. The Su-24 is practically useless against the aircraft of its "partners". An escort of fighters is required.
  14. evge-malyshev
    evge-malyshev 27 July 2016 11: 37
    0
    I would like the Syrians to use them effectively in practice. I hope that they were taught this.
  15. uskrabut
    uskrabut 27 July 2016 11: 50
    +1
    After a couple of years, these planes would still have to be decommissioned and disposed of, which is money. So also the savings are obtained. And so the Syrians are pleased, and it costs us nothing.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 27 July 2016 12: 31
      +3
      Somewhere they wrote that the Su-24 turned out to be successful on the scale of impact efficiency /
      the cost of flight and operation, and the Su-34 on the contrary turned out to be extremely expensive
      in maintenance, kerosene consumption. Therefore, they were recalled from Syria.
      1. g1v2
        g1v2 27 July 2016 13: 12
        +4
        As for cheapness, this is true, because the su24 are featured by ordinary fabs and other unadjustable ammunition, and the su34 usually work corrected for important purposes. However, the su 34 was only partially removed when they halved our air group. 5-6 su34 is still in Syria. By the way, the grouping can increase. In my opinion, ITS was cut not only because the main tasks were solved, but also because we were balancing on the brink of war with the Turks and the planes were being taken out of a possible strike. Now everything is working out with the Turks and no war is foreseen, because some of the planes can be returned if that.
        1. Alex_Tug
          Alex_Tug 27 July 2016 14: 10
          0
          g1v2
          5-6 su34 is still in Syria.


          They need to be run into reality and to correct some miscalculations in the design.
      2. tomket
        tomket 27 July 2016 14: 22
        +1
        Quote: voyaka uh
        and Su-34, on the contrary, turned out to be extremely expensive
        in maintenance, kerosene consumption. Therefore, they were recalled from Syria.

        So what did the skeptics say there that the MiG-35 does not need the Air Force for nothing, and is it better to rivet more and more different kinds of sushi?
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 27 July 2016 18: 22
          +1
          Fighters were compared: heavy Su-30/35 and light MiG-35.
          Heavy can be bombers (fighter-bombers), therefore
          more useful.
          By the way, they could replace the Su-34. Why have an armored
          cockpit, if you bomb from 5 km, like in Syria? Only overweight and overweight
          kerosene consumption.
        2. g1v2
          g1v2 27 July 2016 20: 36
          +1
          Well, instantly what does it have to do with35? Yes, and I agree with those generals who believe that the su30cm made the instant35 essentially unnecessary. A regiment of 36 units mig35 will be purchased so that the aircraft has an export perspective and most likely. request
  16. Machete
    Machete 27 July 2016 11: 54
    +2
    I doubt that everything goes there for free.
    Surely, everything for future contracts, resource development, and more.
    There is little money and Assad now, it will be spent later. If you stand it.
    1. ssdfrf
      ssdfrf 27 July 2016 12: 02
      0
      Quote: Machete
      I doubt that everything goes there for free.
      Surely, everything for future contracts, resource development, and more.
      There is little money and Assad now, it will be spent later. If you stand it.

      The main semantic load in your comment is the word "if!"
      1. Idiot
        Idiot 27 July 2016 18: 51
        0
        Undoubtedly stand. This issue is not even discussed anymore in the Kremlin. And he decides exclusively there, while the Russians in Syria ...
  17. Rossiyanin
    Rossiyanin 27 July 2016 12: 45
    +1
    Quote: Mavrikiy
    That is right. ISIS will now show what halva is.

    The main thing is that not our guys die, God forbid, as is the case with the Turks.
  18. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 27 July 2016 13: 36
    0
    Not those problems, Dear! The problem is the human resource, ready to work on these machines. It’s clear that a dozen or two Syrian crews underwent our training, and tomorrow?
    1. Idiot
      Idiot 27 July 2016 18: 53
      +1
      And tomorrow there will be more, and after tomorrow there will be more than tomorrow. The coaches haven’t left anywhere ...
  19. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 27 July 2016 13: 43
    +1
    Quote: voyaka uh
    Somewhere they wrote that the Su-24 turned out to be successful on the scale of impact efficiency /

    Well, at least one did at least primitive (sorry, this is +), but analysis! Fly swatter beat, cockroaches poisoned with dust, while everyone had the mind to count 5cop. + 6cop. = 11cop.
  20. DmitryK
    DmitryK 27 July 2016 14: 01
    0
    As our pilots flew, they will fly on them, they will service our technicians, they will redraw the identification marks, and write off the planes. It will be possible to act bolder and bolder as in the case of a strike on the American base in Syria.
    1. Idiot
      Idiot 27 July 2016 18: 56
      0
      An interesting blow of some kind happened: yesterday the British moved out - today they bombed the base. There are no victims, there is no base either, although it is not there anyway - it is secret. Unprofessional Russian pilots bombed the sand, but ended up in some kind of base ...
  21. Thompson
    Thompson 27 July 2016 17: 11
    +1
    Quote: Sharapov
    Of course, this is good, but I'm not sure that the Syrians will have the money to buy high-precision missiles for these aircraft.
    So there are 2 options: either we will give them these missiles, or they will only use free-falling bombs.

    It's still better than our pilots at the helm
  22. asbaev
    asbaev 27 July 2016 17: 30
    +1
    That's right, we can’t bomb everyone in a row, our partners are offended, and the Syrians can, so now it’s not only possible, but there is something.
  23. Sasha75
    Sasha75 27 July 2016 18: 21
    +1
    The freshest bombs that were used in Syria were 80 years old, specially set freeze frames, like cartridges, we transfer 75-80 bastards all this soon or to be disposed of, so that we almost do not lose only transportation costs.
  24. MACCABI-TLV
    MACCABI-TLV 28 July 2016 12: 02
    0
    I didn’t find a single article on this subject in our office. And so, they say little, but nothing at all. It seems that our highest establishment does not see Syria itself in Syria.
    - "They know something, but they don't tell us"! (C) smile
  25. Maxim73
    Maxim73 28 July 2016 12: 12
    0
    Here the main question is, will Syria pull these "gifts" ?!
    1. Atl
      Atl 28 July 2016 14: 03
      0
      Will pull. Why then give?
  26. Aristide
    Aristide 28 July 2016 15: 18
    0
    Great fraternal help to Russia. It must be assumed that these swallows are not only for the fight against ISIS. Near Syria are her sworn friends who sleep and see the overthrow of B. Assad. Well, wait and see!
  27. su163
    su163 28 July 2016 15: 35
    +1
    Aviators and pilots in Syria are hereditary, and our pilot instructors trained them for real goals. So let the comrades work.
  28. Eustace
    Eustace 29 July 2016 12: 26
    0
    An interesting article about how our UAV got away from the Patriot fighter and missiles: http: //rusvesna.su/news/1469634527