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Import substitution matrix

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Enterprises are suffocating without available loans, the budget deficit is growing. The Ministry of Finance has already proposed to cut funding for the HPV-2025. How does OPK work in these conditions? How far are we in import substitution?


In general, the situation is not as bad as in some other industries. In the second quarter, a number of new and modern types of weapons and military equipment were adopted at the defense industry enterprises. Despite the sanctions and difficult financial situation, plans for deliveries to the troops are carried out.

Votkinsk alignment

In accordance with the instructions of the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation, emphasis in the implementation of the state defense order is placed on long-term contracts, ensuring quarterly deliveries of weapons and military equipment and advancing work, and introducing a daily monitoring system. The implementation of the plan for the new main models of weapons and military equipment on 15 July was about 40 percent, and for the repair of equipment - 30 percent, which is higher than the previous years. In general, the level of equipment of troops with modern and advanced weapons has increased by 0,7 percent and today is equal to 48 percent.

For the past quarter, parts of the Yars mobile ground-based missile complex were delivered to the Strategic Missile Forces, including:

six autonomous launchers;
12 combat duty support vehicles;
three engineering and camouflage vehicles;
seven ballistic missiles of strategic purpose.


In the 29 th missile division of the Strategic Missile Forces, their acceptance and commissioning are carried out. The rearmament of the Yars PGRK is in full swing, said the commander of the formation, Colonel Yuri Sytnik. On the Unified Day of Military Acceptance, held on July 15 in the Ministry of Defense, it was noted that joint calculations of personnel and industry representatives carried out re-opening, autonomous testing and commissioning of individual systems of the RK units in the first unit of the 92 rocket regiment. In December, 2016, the complex will take up combat duty.

Import substitution matrix


According to the director general of the Votkinsk plant, Viktor Tolmachyov, the enterprise will supply 2016 products for the Yars RC in 19. Already accepted by the military mission and prepared for shipment are three more products, at the final stage four ballistic missiles. No problem. GOZ-2016 will be completed on time.

The ground and airborne troops received:

brigade set of operational-tactical missile complex "Iskander-M";
249 new and 154 overhauled tanks and armored combat vehicles;
1547 new and 190 refurbished cars;
18 multiple rocket launcher combat vehicles;
133 anti-aircraft guided missiles.


"The Scientific Engineering Industrial Corporation" Engineering Design Bureau "supplied 51 weapons and military equipment for Iskander-M OTRK," commander of the 20 rocket brigade of the 5 Army of the Eastern Military District, Colonel Alexander Peshkov reported.

According to Alexander Krasovitsky, Director General of the Military Industrial Company, a three-year government contract for the supply of BTR-82А was completed ahead of schedule. From 153 units already transferred to military units of the Western Military District 130. 22 armored personnel carrier ready for shipment, one is being tested. At 60 percent, a state contract was made for the supply of special-purpose vehicles "Tigr-M". From 82 units to military units already gone 30, 20 ready for shipment. MIC has begun to implement additional government contracts for 68 BTR-82A. Obligations will be met on time.

In turn, the director of the structural unit Volgograd Machine-Building Company Kurganmashzavod Fizuli Seyfedov announced the delivery of the BMD-4М. In 2016, 18 vehicles were shipped in the airborne unit. Another 15 waiting in line.

For the Aerospace Forces (in terms of providing the Air Force and Air Defense) the following have been adopted:

anti-aircraft missile system C-400;
four new and 54 past repairs with aircraft upgrades;
23 new and 11 past helicopter repairs;
15 BLA;
more than 8000 units aviation means of destruction.


Concern VKO "Almaz-Antey" manufactured for the 18-th anti-aircraft missile regiment of the 31-th division of the air defense system, a C-400 "Triumph" anti-aircraft missile system. As the chief of staff said, the deputy commander of the regiment, lieutenant colonel Yevgeny Oleynikov, the personnel successfully completed training at the Gatchina Training Center of the Military Academy of Aerospace Defense. In August, upon completion of the initial combat firing at the base of the research and development test center of air defense systems of the 4 State Central Interspecific test site, it is planned to ship the adopted equipment to the place of permanent deployment - the 85388 military unit in Feodosia. That is, the C-400 SAMS will be located in the Crimea.

For naval fleet accepted:

11356 “Admiral Essen” patrol ship;
Gamma-С1М radar;
72 SUR;
47 Caliber ship missiles.


In May, the submarine “Kolpino” (“New Varshavyanka”) and the icebreaker of the 21180 project “Ilya Muromets” (“Thunder of the chains”) were launched at the Admiralty shipyards. The vessel of this class was built for the first time in 45 years. At the end of the test, the icebreaker will be part of the Northern Fleet.

For the Space Forces, a three-stage Soyuz-2.1b medium-class launch vehicle was installed, eight mobile three-dimensional radar systems of medium and high altitudes. The calculations of the videoconferencing system in the interests of the 24 March and 4 June Defense Ministry put the Bars-M and Geo-IC satellites into specified orbits. The Soyuz-2.1 and Rokot were used. Three more launches are scheduled for the end of 2016. As the general director of the RCC Progress, Alexander Kirilin, said, in accordance with GOZ-2016, it is planned to produce seven rocket launchers of the Soyuz family. Two of them are designed for the ROC "Rus". Today, three rocket launchers of the Soyuz family have been manufactured. Four Soyuz-2.1b are in production in varying degrees of readiness. Products will be delivered by November 2016.

Leonid Belykh, Managing Director of the Ulan-Ude Aviation Plant, said that this year eight military transport helicopters Mi-8AMTSH were manufactured and transferred to the Defense Ministry ahead of time. Until the end of the year, six more will be sent to the troops.

In addition, the company manufactured and started to conduct flight presenter tests of two Mi-8AMTSH-VA in the northern version. According to state contracts, three Mi-8 in the Arctic version will be delivered in 2016 and two in 2017.

June 4 carried out a flight of four Su-34 from Novosibirsk to the home airfield. Completed repairs with the modernization of seven IL-76MD, which will soon be transferred to military units. In the branch of PJSC "Tupolev" on the Zhukovskaya flight test and development base, work was carried out to modernize the long-range Tu-95MS bomber-bomber. Under the terms of government contracts, another seven modernized Tu-95MS aircraft will transfer to the Ministry of Defense.

Mines of new technology

How in the defense industry with know-how? After all, the equipment with high-quality and efficient weapons largely depends on the level of promising developments. Here, as they say, not a lot, but there is progress.

In particular, as Pavel Izmailov, Chief Designer of the Signal Research Institute, told, in 2016, in the interests of the engineering troops, state tests of the remote-controlled robotic demining complex “Pass-1” were conducted. It provides for the passage of passages up to 4,5 meters in combat conditions for the movement of military convoys in mined areas of the terrain, both in crew and in automatic modes of operation. Technical capabilities allow trawling mines installed in snow or soil to neutralize those lying on the surface, as well as those equipped with radio fuses. Automatic control mode allows you to perform a combat mission on a given route without operator intervention. Signal JSC is ready to fulfill the tasks of the state defense order for serial production of the Pass-1 complexes.

Trial operation of the automated system of electronic registration and use of personal data of servicemen “Passport” is being carried out. It allows you to control access to protected objects and information resources, confirm rights and keep records of social, financial and other services. As the General Director of JSC “Angstrem” Alexey Bocharov said, technical and operational documentation has been developed, currently being implemented in military units and military registration and enlistment offices. The necessary equipment in full has already been delivered, commissioning and technical acceptance are underway. Thousands of electronic cards of a soldier entered 651 collection points of the Russian Defense Ministry, of which more than 89 000 has already been personalized. In September, their mass production at the domestic base will be mastered. But for now, it is not possible to completely end import.

Dependence on supplies from Ukraine remains. The analysis of the implementation of the plan for the import substitution of components in the first half of the year shows an insufficient level of organization, Lieutenant-General Anatoly Gulyaev, head of the Main Weapons Directorate, stressed at the Unified Day of Acceptance of Military Products. He drew the attention of the heads of integrated structures and enterprises to the inadmissibility of the disruption of the deliveries provided for in 2016 due to the failure to comply with plans for replacing products from abroad with domestic ones. Performers will have to report on work in this direction at the next Unified Day of Acceptance of Military Products.

Have a positive experience. Alexander Borisov, General Director of JSC Cyclone, spoke about the development of bolometric arrays for thermal imaging systems under the import substitution program. Obtained prototypes uncooled matrix receivers. They correspond to the world level. We are the fourth, after the USA, France and China, who have mastered the unique technology. The production of microdisplays with a production volume of up to 10 000 pieces per year was created. Let us clarify that they, like uncooled matrix microbolometer receivers, are the basis of thermal imaging devices that are planned to be used for the acquisition of armored vehicles "Kurganets", "Armata", "Steamboat", the base minesweeper of the 12700 project, the Igla, Verba and sights for rifle weapons. It is the creation of modern mass production of microbolometric matrices.

Conversation with penalty box

According to the main models of weapons and military equipment GOZ-2016 is performed. However, a number of enterprises in the second quarter lagged behind schedules. For example, Motovilikhinskiye Zavody disrupted government contracts for the supply and modernization of Tornado-S MLRS and the automatic control system 2С9 and 2С1, despite the fact that these contracts have already been rescheduled from 2015. The company “Torch” on the topic “Polymer-Redut” has not yet received a positive result from the use of anti-aircraft guided missiles designed to equip 20380 corvettes and 22350 frigates. This directly affects the transfer of the Admiral Gorshkov fleet. Although the Supreme Commander is set deadline: November 2016 of the year.

Due to the late delivery of the armor sheet and the weak organization of work on the production, there were a lag behind the technological cycle of manufacturing the BTR-MDM Rakushka armored personnel carriers for the Airborne Forces (supplier - Kurganmashzavod).

The backlog of repair schedules continues with the modernization of long-range aviation aircraft of PJSC "Tupolev".

Concern "Constellation" breaks already transferred from the 2015-th timing of the delivery of communications and automated control systems.

In June, the leaders of these enterprises were heard, it was determined how to eliminate the shortcomings, and measures were taken to complete the contracts before November 2016. Other extraordinary decisions have allowed to reduce overdue receivables of enterprises by 174,5 billion rubles, but its level is still high - more than 190 billion rubles. There are also such debtors with whom judicial and claim work is carried out.

Today, debt repayment schedules are more tightly controlled. Penalties are advanced by no more than 10 percent. The system of financial monitoring of budget spending has been introduced. Putting the allocated funds on the side is becoming increasingly difficult.

Anatoly Gulyaev drew the attention of managers to the fact that these government contracts and the timely repayment of overdue receivables are taken under special control. This means that there will be a tighter demand, in whose ownership enterprises are located.

Summing up, the First Deputy Minister of Defense - Chief of the General Staff, Army General Valery Gerasimov noted that the planned volumes of the GOZ were generally implemented. But part of government contracts remains unfulfilled. In the course of a special operation in Syria, certain shortcomings of modern weapons and military equipment models were revealed. Before the end of the year it is necessary to take measures to correct the situation. The time of exhortation is over. The Ministry of Defense will speak with debtors in the language of sanctions and fines.
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  1. Khariton
    Khariton 29 July 2016 18: 37
    +32
    Always lived and developed under the sanctions of the West .. You need to work!
    1. bubalik
      bubalik 29 July 2016 18: 49
      +16
      Khariton (3) RU  Today, 18: 37
      ,, laughing
      1. Khariton
        Khariton 29 July 2016 18: 51
        +10
        Pinned up badly ... But I’ll put a plus! bully
        1. bubalik
          bubalik 29 July 2016 19: 19
          +2
          Khariton (3) RU  Today, 18: 51
          ,,, in you with humor laughing ,,, (+) ,,
    2. The comment was deleted.
    3. cniza
      cniza 29 July 2016 18: 52
      +22
      Not the Ministry of Finance should dictate what and how to finance, but the industries and the Ministry of Finance - the accountant must execute. Until this principle is maintained, development will be hindered.
      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 29 July 2016 19: 12
        +5
        Quote: cniza
        Not the Ministry of Finance should dictate what and how to finance, but the industries and the Ministry of Finance - the accountant must execute. Until this principle is maintained, development will be hindered.

        Ministry of Finance to the wall, as enemies of the people. Put the new Ministry of Finance near the wall so that they carefully look and remember what happens to the spies of Estonia and Paraguay.
        1. samoletil18
          samoletil18 29 July 2016 22: 09
          +5
          Paraguay is guilty of something. Clearly Ukrainian and Polish spies, Swaziland intelligence agents are worrying.
          By the way, the dollar went down in world markets. And oil. At the same time, the ruble is also down. In the process, Nabiulina will again become the best central banker in the world. After that, again, some wise guy will talk about the inefficiency of the Soviet economic system? Although, these wise men received a ton of gold in their hands and turn it into a thousand tons of manure. Something Yasin, for example, has not been seen or heard for a long time ...
      2. Khariton
        Khariton 29 July 2016 19: 22
        +9
        Quote: cniza
        Not the Ministry of Finance should dictate what and how to finance, but the industries and the Ministry of Finance - the accountant must execute. Until this principle is maintained, development will be hindered.

        A planned economy should be ... How much and where! And most importantly, control ... But it is not, almost! We are able to distribute money, but there is NO control over their spending! Auditors from the Accounts Chamber must go with machine gunners to check the spending of budget funds! And with huge powers ... Otherwise, there will be no order .. If the auditors did not find anything ... them immediately and a full check of all relatives ..
        1. Comrade Glebov
          Comrade Glebov 29 July 2016 19: 55
          +12
          This is for sure, without a planned economy such a huge ship as Russia will not be able to "go", even "floats" with difficulty. The defense industry complex is good, it is very necessary, and this is not about the profit from sales, but about how to cover your fifth point with something. But we have replaced meat from the EU (or are planning to replace it) with meat from either South America or Africa. If this is import substitution, then I am not just a ballerina, but the prima of the Mariinsky Theater. He wants domestic products (inexpensive and high-quality, as in the USSR), domestic computers, operating systems and progs, his own phone and a car (and not a cross between a chainsaw and a baby carriage named "Lada Kalina"). Another thing is that Russian officials and the government take advantage of what they receive from their home countries (EU and SGA) and there is no reason for them to spend money on the development of Russian production.
          1. Inok10
            Inok10 29 July 2016 21: 12
            +2
            Quote: Comrade Glebov
            This is for sure, without a planned economy such a huge ship as Russia will not be able to "go", even "floats" with difficulty.

            ... something is floating in the hole ... The cruiser Russia is on an economical move and on the right course under the command of Admiral V.V. Putin ...
            Quote: Comrade Glebov
            The defense industry is good, it is very necessary and it’s not about the profit from sales, but about how to cover your fifth point.

            ... the traditional "ship rats" were worried ... laughing
            Quote: Comrade Glebov
            But we replaced meat from the EU (or plan to replace it) with meat from either South America or Africa.

            ... in general, with my own ... well, in any case, in my Kaliningrad province, my pork is fresh, not even chilled ... goulash - 250 rubles / kg, meat ribs - 180 rubles / kg, steak (pork chop with ribs ) - 270 rubles / kg. ... beef - 360 rubles / kg, lamb - 380 rubles / kg ... hi ... within a radius of 0,5 km. from the house 3 outlets, the difference in price is +/- 7-10 rubles. depends on the patency of the place ... hi
            Quote: Comrade Glebov
            If this is import substitution, then I'm not just a ballerina, but the prima Mariinsky Theater.
            ... banal troll ... laughing
            Quote: Comrade Glebov
            He wants domestic products (inexpensive and high-quality, as in the USSR), domestic computers, operating systems and progs, his own phone and a car (and not a cross between a chainsaw and a baby carriage named "Lada Kalina").

            ... Communist Party - Goodbye! ... hi
            Quote: Comrade Glebov
            It’s another matter that Russian officials and the government take advantage of the fact that they are sent from their home countries (EU and SGA) and they don’t have any reason to spend on the development of Russian production.

            ... you can’t even comment on it ... it’s a diagnosis ... laughing
            P.S. ... a new Kaliningrad joke, after yesterday's "voluntarily compulsory promotion" of Tsukanov ... well, finally we now have a real governor, a real governor-general ... the people are in high spirits ... wink
            1. Comrade Glebov
              Comrade Glebov 30 July 2016 03: 13
              +2
              Quote: Inok10
              The cruiser Russia is moving economically and on the right course under the command of Admiral V.V. Putin's

              ABOUT! Well, well ... You are going the right course, tovarischi ... just not there))) At the best of times, your "admyral" would not even be taken to the cabin.
              Quote: Inok10
              ... the traditional "ship rats" were worried ...

              You do not worry yourself the main thing)))) Fortunately, I can not be attributed to the "ship rats", because I stand on land somewhat at a distance from your ship and wave my handkerchief (I am a foreigner, if you suddenly did not understand, an agent of the State Department, since I am not putinoid)
              Quote: Inok10
              . actually by my own ... well, in any case, in my Kaliningrad province, my pork is fresh, not even chilled ... goulash - 250 rub / kg, meat ribs - 180 rub / kg, steak (pork chop with ribs) - 270 rub / kg ... beef - 360 rub / kg, lamb - 380 rub / kg ... ... within a radius of 0,5 km. from home 3 outlets, price difference +/- 7-10 rub. depends on the patency of the place ...

              The "mainland" part of Russia does not particularly boast of this. I have been to different parts of the world (not too many, to be honest), but I have never eaten more tasteless meat than in Moscow and the European part of Russia. I am silent about vegetables and fruits. By the way, Belarusian meat is very good.
              Quote: Inok10
              ... banal troll ...

              I’m far from you, my friend fellow You have a special troll, a Putinist-uryapatriotic bottling.
              Quote: Inok10
              Communist Party - Goodbye! ...

              I am a member of the Communist Party. You have no other choice but to feed the entire Edrosovskaya gang-watering can. However, I think you are happy to feed all the "chiefs" of your "admyral".

              Quote: Inok10
              ... you can’t even comment on it ... it’s a diagnosis ...
              P.S. ... a new Kaliningrad joke, after yesterday's "voluntarily compulsory promotion" of Tsukanov ... well, finally we now have a real governor, a real governor-general ... the people are in high spirits ...

              I remember, I heard something like that about Sobyanin ... Now they dream of feeding him his own fecal tile. He is certainly not the governor, but still)
              Py.Sy.: And what kind of medical academy did you graduate in order to diagnose me? Or do you think that you know better from your house?
        2. Slarch
          Slarch 30 July 2016 00: 00
          +1
          Quote: Chariton
          Quote: cniza
          Not the Ministry of Finance should dictate what and how to finance, but the industries and the Ministry of Finance - the accountant must execute. Until this principle is maintained, development will be hindered.

          A planned economy should be ... How much and where! And most importantly, control ... But it is not, almost! We are able to distribute money, but there is NO control over their spending! Auditors from the Accounts Chamber must go with machine gunners to check the spending of budget funds! And with huge powers ... Otherwise, there will be no order .. If the auditors did not find anything ... them immediately and a full check of all relatives ..


          I beg you ... For a long time (already, since the beginning of 2015) the Ministry of Finance through the tax office obliged all offices (in general, all and even "five" and the like ... and not only ... even bars) to submit declarations - what exactly is being sold and at what prices ... They have already taken a pencil.) The funniest thing, the Ministry of Finance already knows exactly how many packs of cigarettes, soap, bread, sugar, etc. you buy. per month
      3. Albert1988
        Albert1988 30 July 2016 08: 43
        0
        Quote: cniza
        Not the Ministry of Finance should dictate what and how to finance, but the industries and the Ministry of Finance - the accountant must execute.

        The problem, unfortunately, is that most of our officials are financiers. and they think like financiers. that is, not in terms of the need for a particular production. but solely questions of profitability, profitability / loss ratio, etc. That is, as you rightly noted, it is just "bulgakters" who have only "debit and lie" in their heads, naturally, that they will not be able to develop the industry normally, not only because they are almost all thieves there, but because banally limited financial thinking physically does not allow them to do this, they do not know how, you know ...
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    5. GYGOLA
      GYGOLA 29 July 2016 21: 49
      0
      You need to work!
      Fact: But depending on which direction ... The right direction (country, citizens, well-being) is a component of a strong state. About the current work in the state, the proverb: work will not ... stand for 100 years. Thanks to the sanctions, they help to determine the right direction for work, stirring. On one "national property" you will never be full.
    6. geroirossii
      geroirossii 29 July 2016 21: 54
      -31%
      You need to work!
      1. dmi.pris
        dmi.pris 30 July 2016 07: 00
        +1
        Why are you so Moldovans blackened ...
        Quote: geroirossii
        You need to work!
      2. Rust0626
        Rust0626 30 July 2016 07: 53
        +3
        40 million, even though you yourself believe in these numbers?
        1. Albert1988
          Albert1988 30 July 2016 08: 47
          0
          Quote: Rust0626
          40 million, even though you yourself believe in these numbers?

          Let us call a bunch of liberals and they will begin to compete who will name the largest number of repressed - while the record is "fifteen hundred million" (sounded several years ago on the radio "ear of matzo") ...
      3. Albert1988
        Albert1988 30 July 2016 08: 52
        +3
        Ugum - howling Hitler destroyed more than 27 million Soviet citizens, and secondly, why then did Stalin destroy only 40 million? Let's get 400! So it will be more solid, more monster, so to speak! And after 400 million it will be possible to gradually raise the figure to 4 billion! Just imagine a krrrrrovy dictator and executioner who killed every Soviet citizen 20 times somewhere! (probably from this ukroevrointegrators call us "zombies" !!!)
        Post it on all sorts of liberal sites (and do not forget the censor) and immediately just a mega-hyper-quasi-ultra-meta fighter for freedom / truth / rights-USA-bomb-anyone-want

        yat become!)))))
      4. geroirossii
        geroirossii 30 July 2016 09: 52
        -9
        Stalin can be whitewashed only by traitors to the motherland who want the death of Russia!
        [media = http: //maxpark.com/community/129/content/2029250]
    7. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 29 July 2016 22: 45
      +2
      Enterprises are suffocating from the `` bosses '' who plundered them, whose production is unprofitable, but their loved ones regularly receive bonuses, but what kind ... But to modernize production and pay the workers normally, this is a `` toad ''
  2. SMAKAROV49
    SMAKAROV49 29 July 2016 18: 42
    +7
    Control is needed all the time. Too important things do. Fines for enterprises are certainly good, but I would like to prosecute specific officials for sabotage for their own benefit.
  3. Flinky
    Flinky 29 July 2016 18: 42
    +16
    The defense industry must be nationalized, all without exception. Then control will be, and not as it is now - with the gentlemen the owners will clatter! And financing should be direct, and not through banks that want to earn.
    1. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 29 July 2016 19: 54
      +7
      The thing is that under the current system you don't really bother with "gentlemen, owners and bankers." They will always have untouchables and the like. Here I agree with Khariton, only the nationalization of the military-industrial complex and full control ... And the articles in the Criminal Code on confiscation and supremely ..
  4. marshes
    marshes 29 July 2016 18: 47
    +3
    I recall, my brother in the mid-80s, studied basic and then I promoted the turbo basic version, there is something like rambler and pascal, and so on ... programming languages ​​and studied in Perm. laughing Who knows, it will understand. Now "business" is doing at the stations. Yes, they showed interest in NZ. laughing Where the Khobit was shot. -This is due to the training of cadets of the Strategic Missile Forces. laughing in those times.
    About these ali an entire era and people. smile
    1. marshes
      marshes 29 July 2016 19: 08
      +3
      Quote: marshes
      About et ali an entire era and people

      I myself wonder what D3 milling cutters and D3 printers were made of, your work and money is brought.
      This is what I was talking about, about the education that was given during the USSR period and then that the World Wide Web gave us-INTERNET. laughing
    2. Khariton
      Khariton 29 July 2016 19: 09
      +16
      Quote: marshes
      I recall, my brother in the mid-80s, studied basic and then I promoted the turbo basic version, there is something like rambler and pascal, and so on ... programming languages ​​and studied in Perm. laughing Who knows, it will understand. Now "business" is doing at the stations. Yes, they showed interest in NZ. laughing Where the Khobit was shot. -This is due to the training of cadets of the Strategic Missile Forces. laughing in those times.
      About these ali an entire era and people. smile

      I tried in the 90s .. But time was running out! There were no holidays, no sick leave .. WORK was ..! hi Now a run over to Russia is coming and sanctions are in our favor .. Muscovites certainly feel sorry for so much dough to lose from foreign investors .. But the outback in Russia took a deep breath, there are no more huge apples, cucumbers, chicken legs ... etc. then there was a horror! Still to deal with the sausage, so that there were five grades and EVERYTHING! We have already eaten ..... It is time to restore the industry ... I want the needles not to break (there is nothing to sew up the socks ..)))) Mixer taps, remember the eternal brass ... Well, I won’t continue to list and don’t want to ... heart begins to beat alarmingly! hi
      1. marshes
        marshes 29 July 2016 19: 16
        +4
        Quote: Chariton
        I tried in the 90s .. But time was running out! There were no holidays, no sick leave .. WORK was ..! Now a run over to Russia is coming and sanctions are in our favor .. Muscovites certainly feel sorry for so much dough to lose from foreign investors .. But the outback in Russia took a deep breath, there are no more huge apples, cucumbers, chicken legs ... etc. then there was a horror! Still to deal with the sausage, so that there were five grades and EVERYTHING! We have already eaten ..... It is time to restore the industry ... I want the needles not to break (there is nothing to sew up the socks ..)))) Mixer taps, remember the eternal brass ... Well, I won’t continue to list and don’t want to ... heart begins to beat alarmingly!

        The elder Green Card was offered, where is the name of the valley. No matter how four rats. proposals rather in the patent.
        And so, Muscovites have been eating from our base for more than a year, they say they invested 1.2 lard in the Moscow Region. laughing
        I advise you not to eat your sausage, there is not much meat and chemistry. Take Kazy, horse-drawn fresh before my eyes. laughing
        Vodka Aktyubinskaya, White Horse is not Che, drank yours. At first it was not bad, and then they started to drive garbage.
        Fishing, on the lakes garbage-fish is smelly, it is necessary purely in the Urals or the Volga. smile
        1. Khariton
          Khariton 29 July 2016 19: 54
          +2
          Quote: marshes
          Quote: Chariton
          I tried in the 90s .. But time was running out! There were no holidays, no sick leave .. WORK was ..! Now a run over to Russia is coming and sanctions are in our favor .. Muscovites certainly feel sorry for so much dough to lose from foreign investors .. But the outback in Russia took a deep breath, there are no more huge apples, cucumbers, chicken legs ... etc. then there was a horror! Still to deal with the sausage, so that there were five grades and EVERYTHING! We have already eaten ..... It is time to restore the industry ... I want the needles not to break (there is nothing to sew up the socks ..)))) Mixer taps, remember the eternal brass ... Well, I won’t continue to list and don’t want to ... heart begins to beat alarmingly!

          The elder Green Card was offered, where is the name of the valley. No matter how four rats. proposals rather in the patent.
          And so, Muscovites have been eating from our base for more than a year, they say they invested 1.2 lard in the Moscow Region. laughing
          I advise you not to eat your sausage, there is not much meat and chemistry. Take Kazy, horse-drawn fresh before my eyes. laughing
          Vodka Aktyubinskaya, White Horse is not Che, drank yours. At first it was not bad, and then they started to drive garbage.
          Fishing, on the lakes garbage-fish is smelly, it is necessary purely in the Urals or the Volga. smile

          Ah Brother Bolot. SO AND DOING BASICALLY! I always take tea in Kazakh packaging! Well, I used to love Kazakh vodka, now I can’t ... Well, Konin is on sale, but I haven’t eaten anything yet ..)))) I like pork, fried ribs and vzhigry, with potatoes, salad and vodka cold! And sincere conversations ... Eh ..
          1. marshes
            marshes 29 July 2016 20: 05
            +4
            Quote: Chariton
            Ah Brother Bolot. SO AND DOING BASICALLY! I always take tea in Kazakh packaging! Well, I used to love Kazakh vodka, now I can’t ... Well, Konin is on sale, but I haven’t eaten anything yet ..)))) I like pork, fried ribs and vzhigry, with potatoes, salad and vodka cold! And sincere conversations ... Eh ..

            I advise you to take tea as well.
            Aktyubinskaya vodka, drank at the beginning your whitewash, talka, green brand-garbage, then they started to drive, alcohol was seen from sawdust. I switched to ours.
            I advise Konin to eat, there will be more health.
            And with Kartofan-Recipe.
            Karasi or not big carp.
            Put the potatoes in a pan, then fish and top the potatoes, pour a solution of sour cream or mayonnaise, and cook until the potatoes are edible.
            laughing
            He cooked this dish a little over a week ago in MARI Ele laughing
            So note in Orenburg, laughing A new relative of the district police officer and another in the Organized Crime Control Department is working, we are surrounded. laughing
            1. Khariton
              Khariton 29 July 2016 20: 18
              -2
              Quote: marshes
              So note in Orenburg, laughing A new relative of the district police officer and another in the Organized Crime Control Department is working, we are surrounded. laughing

              Well, if anything, we don’t care about the relatives ... We’ll shoot! Juzes and clans in Russia, swamps are not quoted ...! We shot our noblemen, and how many Basmachi were chopped ...)))) We can repeat it! wassat )))) In vain boast of swamps! Keep my advice better ... Relatives will be goals! drinks
              1. marshes
                marshes 29 July 2016 20: 35
                -2
                Quote: Chariton
                Well, if that, we do not care relatives ...

                It is impossible to live like that, if someone can "fit in", only relatives, even a "dandy".
                Looks like life was "rainbow". laughing And we had to fight for the "piece." Yes, with the advice.
                Quote: Chariton
                .Will shoot! Juzes and clans in Russia, swamps are not quoted ..

                Oh, don’t star. The shops are holding you. A friend in Peter left to meet with Uncle. laughing ARYSBAY laughing
                Quote: Chariton
                .! We shot down our noblemen, and we chopped up how many Basmachi ...))))

                It’s not everyone, the Mikhalkovs from the Nobles. laughing
                Quote: Chariton
                In vain boast of swamps! Keep my advice better ... Relatives will be goals!

                Well, for this reason, some in New Zealand, others in Germany or Israel, we know what people can do.
        2. Yura
          Yura 29 July 2016 20: 19
          +1
          Quote: marshes
          I advise you not to eat your sausage, there is not much meat and chemistry. Take Kazy, horse-drawn fresh before my eyes.

          "swamps" ...., sadiuga, have pity, where I will take this Kazy cooked in the Novgorod region before my eyes, I have never tried it, crying however, it’s necessary to go to Kakhakhstan, for a long time I have not been there since 65, I already remember almost nothing except the taste of barbecue and Christmas trees with Santa Clauses and Snow Maidens in store windows, and before that I was there in the summer, I still remember Alma fountains -Aty and all this is ghostly, while it is like an argamak that cannot be kept up with it. hi
          1. marshes
            marshes 29 July 2016 20: 38
            +1
            Quote: Jura
            "swamps" ...., sadiuga, have pity, where I will take this Kazy cooked in the Novgorod region before my eyes, I have never tried it,

            Tatars, however, will not be very greasy. You can canned by visiting KUBLEI, Ukrainians eat gum. help. And so the thing is expensive.
            Quote: Jura
            however, it’s necessary to go to Kakhakhstan, for a long time I have not been there since 65, I already remember almost nothing except the taste of barbecue and Christmas trees with Santa Clauses and Snow Maidens in store windows, and before that I was there in the summer, I still remember Alma fountains -Aty and all this is ghostly, while it is like an argamak that cannot be kept up with it.

            In Moscow, a company store was opened, and so what if the Tatars or Bashkirs ...
            1. Chisayna
              Chisayna 29 July 2016 20: 45
              0
              And what kind of horse goes to Kazy, a decrepit bed, probably. No one can give a good horse or foal to sausage.
              1. marshes
                marshes 29 July 2016 20: 58
                0
                Quote: Chisain
                And what kind of horse goes to Kazy, a decrepit bed, probably. No one can give a good horse or foal to sausage.

                A horse, a horse from a foal, the knowledgeable determine. Two or three years of intensive feeding, even the horse's gaze becomes "greasy" - not pleasant, but don't mind putting it under the knife, this is not a racehorse.
                Т
          2. ty60
            ty60 29 July 2016 21: 04
            +2
            Tatars mentally prepare kazy in Saratov. Not necessarily to Kazakhstan. hi
            1. marshes
              marshes 29 July 2016 21: 10
              +1
              Quote: ty60
              Tatars mentally prepare kazy in Saratov. Not necessarily - in Kazakhstan

              They do not report horse fat. Purely bespontovy KAZY, SHUJUK-the same horse sausage.
              They do not know how. Normal KAZY can be prepared only in Almaty, and in Central Kazakhstan.
        3. ty60
          ty60 29 July 2016 20: 58
          +1
          Does fish from the Ural lakes stink? Or, except sturgeons, is the rest not fish? By the way, in Kazakhstan the best vodka was ULVZ. Now it is gone. WATER was different. Only Kokchetavskaya is brought to Russia
          1. marshes
            marshes 29 July 2016 21: 06
            -1
            Quote: ty60
            Fish from the Ural lakes stinks

            Any of the small lakes.
            Quote: ty60
            ? By the way, in Kazakhstan, the best vodka was ULVZ.

            Aktobe or Almaty.
            Quote: ty60
            .Only Kokchetavskaya transported to Russia

            What's next. laughing
            According to Stew, this is the best KUBLEI, beef or horse meat, plus KAZA and canned fish.
            1. Trick shot
              Trick shot 30 July 2016 07: 25
              0
              And on the subject there is something to comment on?
              And if the topic "kazylyk" (as the Tatars call horse sausage) fell after the clip was placed by Mikhan, then under the words "I will go out into the field with a horse at night," the horse was meant as a friend and "interlocutor", and not as a gastronomic delicacy.
              Your calls look somewhat inappropriate.
              In the old days, because of the importance of horses in everyday life and military operations in many cultures, there is a taboo on the use of horse meat.
              In Northern Europe, the use of horse meat was part of the pagan cult associated with the god Odin. Therefore, the German archbishop Boniface issued a special edict on the health hazards of horse meat; Following him, the consumption of horse meat and the Roman pope Gregory also banned (7). The demand to abandon horsemeat with the adoption of Christianity became a stumbling block for many Europeans.
              The Code of Food Standards in MANY countries does not include horse meat in the definition of “meat”.
              Horse meat is forbidden by Jewish law because horses do not have cloven hooves and horses are not ruminants.
      2. D. Dan
        D. Dan 29 July 2016 20: 12
        +1
        I want, oh, how I want my own, and inexpensively ,!
      3. dmi.pris
        dmi.pris 30 July 2016 07: 04
        0
        Khariton, and socks, too, need to be replaced by import ... Because you can’t sew bamboo .. Although who is sewing it now? Even we, a large family do not do this ..
  5. Monos
    Monos 29 July 2016 18: 47
    +5
    How easy it was to destroy everything. And how hard it is to create everything anew. Titanic labor. I take off my hat to those who shouldered this load. hi
  6. pts-m
    pts-m 29 July 2016 18: 50
    +2
    It’s interesting how enterprises suffocate from the lack of loans. And banks, on the contrary, gundos that people began to spend little money and do not want to take loans from banks. Or only dollar money is recognized, but what about our Ruble. It’s immediately clear who is a patriot and who is only mows under it.
    ,
    1. Suhov
      Suhov 29 July 2016 19: 29
      0
      Quote: PTS-m
      our ruble

      You or flag change,
      or the claim that the ruble is ours, correct ... wassat
      What is it like ours, if it is in its pure form a derivative of eternally green,
      and not the best quality.
      hi
      There were three brothers
      Two smart, they worked for the money,
      and the third ... for rubles. smile
      1. dvina71
        dvina71 29 July 2016 20: 20
        +2
        Quote: Sukhov
        What is it like ours, if it is in its pure form a derivative of eternally green,
        and not the best quality.

        And to prove this postulate is weak? Or balabol?
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        2. Suhov
          Suhov 29 July 2016 22: 16
          +2
          Quote: Sukhov
          What is it like ours, if it is in its pure form a derivative of eternally green,
          and not the best quality.


          Quote: dvina71
          And to prove this postulate is weak? Or balabol?


          Let Fedorov prove:

          https://youtu.be/8QXBvCgzTJU



          Well, who do we have balabol? smile
          hi
          1. Cat man null
            Cat man null 29 July 2016 23: 52
            +1
            Quote: Sukhov
            Let Fedorov prove:

            - well, to call this set of words "proof" is a matter of taste
            - for me, for example, a fivefold repetition (within 3 minutes) that "the ruble is not the national currency" is not evidence
            - with the same success you can replace the word "ruble" with the word "yuan", for example ... or still not? "What is the difference?" (c) Brother, who is Bagrov?
          2. dvina71
            dvina71 30 July 2016 02: 20
            0
            Quote: Sukhov
            Well, who do we have balabol? smile

            Well ... I don’t know ... it’s difficult to determine what Fedorov looks like, but since you’re bringing this as evidence ... then he’s not.
            I would like something substantial, rather than spatial reasoning on the topic.
            For example .. how is the ruble pegged to the dollar? What about the yuan? Or Jordanian dinar?
        3. Suhov
          Suhov 29 July 2016 23: 09
          0
          Quote: dvina71
          And to prove this postulate is weak?


          The ruble is a derivative of the American dollar:
          https://youtu.be/2VwQ7MXNqEY

          1. Cat man null
            Cat man null 30 July 2016 00: 23
            +1
            Quote: Sukhov
            The ruble is a derivative of the American dollar

            - horses, people, and volleys of thousands of guns mixed in a heap ...
            - amused "if our banks receive loans from the Central Bank not at 8, but at 3 percent, they will start building enterprises in our country" ... from what, excuse me, a change? belay
            - There is "long money" in the country. Only they are allocated according to targeted state programs. With the maximum guarantee that this money will not go to the exchange, but will be invested in exactly what it was received for
            - oil trading for rubles is a process, as the video says, desirable, but not easy. Nevertheless, there is movement in this direction (see SPIMEX)


            But actually - the movie is 2 years old already. Is there nothing newer? Nekomilfo somehow sturgeon of the third freshness to trade ...
            1. Suhov
              Suhov 30 July 2016 12: 11
              +1
              Quote: Cat Man Null
              mixed in a bunch of horses, people, and volleys of thousands of guns.

              State Bank, the issue of the ruble and the Stabilization Fund
              The issue of the ruble, according to the law, is carried out only by the Bank of Russia. And he, according to the same law, cannot give loans to the state. How is this issue carried out, how are rubles put into circulation? Very simple - by buying foreign currency on the exchange.
              This system works like this;
              * Russia sold some goods on the world market;
              * The country received 100 dollars;
              * The central bank buys these dollars on the exchange;
              * dollars fall into the gold and currency reserves of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation;
              * 3000 rubles enter the economy.

              In other words, a foreign currency enters a country only through an exchange. And there they sell it, and the corresponding amount of rubles is “injected” into the Russian economy. There is a certain tacit parity for the population.
              Parity between the number of dollars in gold reserves and the number of rubles in the economy. Here the price of oil went up. For the same product, Russia receives not 100, but 110 dollars. Parity is violated, and the Central Bank corrects it.
              He lowers the dollar, buys them cheaper and injects a smaller amount of rubles into one country's economy for one dollar that has come into the country.
              With a decrease in oil prices, the opposite process occurs: the Central Bank increases the dollar. Now for one dollar that comes in, a smaller amount of our currency is issued. The Central Bank is closely monitoring the total ruble mass.
              Indeed, according to the law on the Central Bank, it is the governing body of the Central Bank - the Board of Directors - that makes the decision “on the total amount of cash issued” (Chapter III, Article 16)
              In other words, there is a dependency and tight binding of the money supply inside Russia and the dollar supply that Russia receives from the outside.
              And that means that we are vulnerable. We are not completely independent.
              Why does the Central Bank maintain parity between the number of dollars in gold reserves and the total issue of rubles? Because the Central Bank manages the ruble issue in the “currency board” mode (V. Yakunin. New technologies for combating Russian statehood. Scientific Expert Publishing House, 2009).
              This is necessary because any country - an IMF member is obliged to provide a one-time exchange of the entire volume of its national currency for dollars and pounds from its own foreign exchange reserves. This rule must be respected at any time.
              Without this, they will not be taken to the IMF. Without this, they will not be accepted into “civilized humanity”.
              But in the end ... there is not so much money in the Russian economy as is necessary for its normal functioning, but as much as dollars is in the Central Bank’s pillbox. How many dollars were earned for the oil and gas sold, how much you can print your own Russian rubles.
              That is, Russia's entire economy is artificially directly dependent on the export of natural resources. That is why, with falling oil prices, everything and everything collapses. The point is not the shortage of taxes on the sale of oil itself.
              Taken from here:
              http://www.danilidi.ru/books/publicistika/Nationalization-of-ruble_Starikov-05.h
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              2. Cat man null
                Cat man null 30 July 2016 20: 38
                +1
                So... what

                Quote: Sukhov
                The issue of the ruble, according to the law, is carried out only by the Bank of Russia

                - This is true

                Quote: Sukhov
                he, according to the same law, can not give loans to the state

                - this is not true

                Quote: Chapter IV. RELATIONSHIP BANK OF RUSSIA WITH BODIES
                STATE AUTHORITY AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT BODIES, Article 22
                The Bank of Russia shall not be entitled to provide loans to the Government of the Russian Federation to finance the federal budget deficit ... unless it is provided for by the federal law on the federal budget ...

                - no more
                - In addition, no one prohibits the CBR from lending to commercial banks. What is he doing successfully?

                This is how rubles "enter the economy."

                Quote: Sukhov
                Indeed, according to the law on the Central Bank, it is the governing body of the Central Bank - the Board of Directors - that makes the decision “on the total amount of cash issued” (Chapter III, Article 16)

                - um ...

                Quote: Chapter III. NATIONAL FINANCIAL COUNCIL AND BODIES
                MANAGEMENT OF THE BANK OF RUSSIA, Article 16
                The Chairman of the Bank of Russia presides at meetings of the Board of Directors, and in case of his absence - the person replacing him from among the members of the Board of Directors.
                Decisions of the Board of Directors are adopted by a majority vote of the number of members of the Board of Directors present at the meeting with a quorum of eight people and the mandatory presence of the Chairman of the Bank of Russia or his deputy ...

                - that is, Article 16 to what you have stated ... is irrelevant
                - what you spoke of falls within the competence of the National Financial Council (Chapter III, Article 13)

                Quote: Sukhov
                The central bank manages the ruble issue in the currency board mode ... Without this, they will not be taken to the IMF. Without this, they will not be accepted into “civilized humanity”

                - about the "currency board": the Russian Federation is not among the countries whose currency is tied to USD
                - there was some kind of legislative quotation (I read, even wrote about it before, but I forgot what her name is) that the debtor countries of the IMF are obliged to adhere to the same currency board policy.
                - the debt of the Russian Federation to the IMF was repaid in January 2005 ahead of schedule and in full

                Thus:

                - The CBR is not required to follow the rules described by you
                - he follows them or not - neither you nor I know, agree

                That, in fact, is how things are yes
  7. Rostislav
    Rostislav 29 July 2016 18: 55
    +2
    I would read and read such dry reports!
    1. vv3
      vv3 29 July 2016 23: 56
      +1
      One must not only read, one must think. All comments are out of topic, just talk. This is the second article on this topic, and again for fools. We do not have combat information systems and therefore, we do not know how to conduct a modern non-nuclear war. The article mentions the Constellation concern, which does not fulfill its plans. So he releases such systems, or rather should release. Their ESU TK sucks, sorry for the slang. But they were accepted by the uncle in the photo. He was the chairman of the State Commission. The second such miracle of the Andromeda-D ACCS for the Airborne Forces is no better than the ESU TK. Not a word about them in the article. Not a word about drones and other reconnaissance devices, which are the eyes of such systems. Let me remind you that such systems, which we do not have, control everything in the conduct of hostilities, or rather, provide target designation for all conventional weapons. Without these systems, everything turns into a set of useless technical devices. Gentlemen, crack further, our army is in full ... ass. And no one wants to see this ...
      1. dvina71
        dvina71 30 July 2016 02: 23
        0
        Quote: vv3
        ado not only read, one must think. The second similar miracle of the Andromeda-D ACCS for the Airborne Forces is no better than the ESU TZ. Not a word about them in the article. Not a word about drones and other reconnaissance devices, which are the eyes of such systems. Let me remind you that such systems, which we do not have, control everything in the conduct of hostilities, or rather, provide target designation for all conventional weapons. Without these systems, everything turns into a set of useless technical devices. Gentlemen, crack further, our army is in full ... ass. And no one wants to see this ...

        A valid stream of consciousness .. Well, at least some facts, figures will come from you?
  8. Bramb
    Bramb 29 July 2016 18: 55
    -1
    Choking enterprises without loans ...
    Boy, did you study economics at all? Do you want me to give hundreds of thousands of examples when enterprises do not need loans from the word at all? If it’s good, then a well-functioning enterprise does not need loans.
    Well, for reference: today 350 million are allocated for the production of polyamide fibers. Well, there’s a little bit more on the bronics ...
    The author needs to wrap a blanket over his head and lower it into the water. 5 minutes.

    The administration, when you stop publishing the frank I.D.I.O.T.O.V. ?!
  9. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 29 July 2016 18: 56
    0
    Well, not so bad. Most of the SDO is carried out on time, and even ahead of schedule. But those who "do not fit into the standard" are visible, not too numerous and their problems are surmountable.
  10. Million
    Million 29 July 2016 19: 04
    +4
    I really thought that it would be about economics, but economics at VO without comment. Apparently, everything is good in this industry
    1. Muvka
      Muvka 29 July 2016 19: 10
      0
      Quote: Million
      I really thought that it would be about economics, but economics at VO without comment. Apparently, everything is good in this industry

      Yes, not so bad. Already in plus the second month we go: http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/80954/
    2. Suhov
      Suhov 29 July 2016 19: 23
      +2
      Quote: Million
      but the economy on VO is without comment. Apparently, everything is good in this industry

      If the enterprise succeeds, the army will receive the products,
      If not, then banknotes, and with interest in the form fines. wassat
      The Department of Defense will speak with debtors in the language of sanctions and fines.

      One thing is annoying, lest this moment be missed by the "managers" from the army,
      and how banks will start making money out of thin air at the expense of real production.
  11. RuslanNN
    RuslanNN 29 July 2016 19: 16
    0
    Well, given our individual achievements: Import substitution is moving around the country. One of the domestic developments, which is amazing, was an external drive weighing 25 kg and costing almost 4 million rubles. At the same time, its capacity is only 50 MB
    1. marshes
      marshes 29 July 2016 19: 29
      0
      Well, the brother said that the computers were like Sparks. laughing THERE. laughing
      1. evil partisan
        evil partisan 29 July 2016 20: 35
        +6
        Quote: marshes
        computers were Tipo Sparks

        Don't run into Iskra 1256! stop Beautiful was for its time comp. Especially for ACS. Almost not killed. I did the most complicated mathematical calculations on it. She puffed, smoked, but counted. I still miss her. yes
        1. marshes
          marshes 29 July 2016 21: 02
          +1
          Quote: Angry Guerrilla
          Don't run into Iskra 1256!

          I didn’t go, it was in 86-91, which my elder brother told me about.
          And will you believe me that the Dagestani in his "head" tragimetric and other equations were deciding which chock left for the USA. laughing
          1. Parsec
            Parsec 29 July 2016 21: 35
            +3
            Quote: marshes
            Would you believe me that the Dagestani in his "head" solved tragimetric and other equations


            Tragic? Of course we will.

            Now, if comedic, or for example elegant-farcical on an indefinite epos with a grotesque, then yes - doubts whether swamps are lying.

            And tragimetry is easy.
            1. marshes
              marshes 29 July 2016 21: 43
              -2
              Quote: Parsec
              And tragimetry is easy.

              Why don’t you believe that a resident of Dagestan could calculate this? laughing Previously, the Strategic Missile Forces' PVVKU was isolated, not "rusyi" did not accept. Just don’t star that everything is for everyone, but the nationality was forgotten about the column.
              Quote: Parsec
              Now, if comedic, or for example elegant-farcical on an indefinite epos with a grotesque, then yes - doubts whether swamps are lying.

              I have a familiar Avatar, here is a clever girl, especially in boogalteria.
              You managed to. There are a lot of people in Kazakhstan, to exile. smile
              1. dauria
                dauria 30 July 2016 00: 22
                +2
                What do not believe that a resident of Dagestan could it calculate


                Are tragimetric equations? belay I believe, we decided from the Caucasus. Maybe there was a Dagestani, then they didn't sort it out, didn't give a damn about that .. And not only trigonometry, but also "diffuses" and Laplace's transformations were done with a pencil on a piece of paper. However, like everyone else ... It's a pity you, in your fervor, did not even bother to "google" ... You expose yourself to ridicule, so at least don't drag your people in. They blush for you.
    2. Shadowcat
      Shadowcat 29 July 2016 19: 29
      +2
      https://politics.dirty.ru/vnd-m2-05-1141406/
      You would at least have done an educational program for a start
    3. Suhov
      Suhov 29 July 2016 19: 43
      +8
      Quote: RuslanNN
      became an external drive weight 25 kg and worth almost 4 million rubles

      This is genes:
      Soviet microprocessors - had 16 legs and ... two handles - for carrying smile
    4. Vadim237
      Vadim237 29 July 2016 21: 33
      -1
      Maybe 50 terabytes.
    5. dauria
      dauria 30 July 2016 00: 09
      +2
      drive weighing 25 kg and costing almost 4 million rubles. However, its capacity is only 50 MB


      They would be ashamed to attract nonsense by the ears. When it was (29 MBB packet drive for PDP-11 or our cm-1420). So the mid-80s, and the price from the ceiling, then 4 million rubles could be bought 4 Mi-24 helicopters or MiG-31.
    6. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 30 July 2016 01: 49
      +2
      "One of the domestic developments that boggles the imagination is an external drive weighing 25 kg and costing almost 4 million rubles. At the same time, its capacity is only 50 MB" //////

      I think this is not an external drive, but an internal one. That is a fireproof safe. Then the weight is clear.
      And in it you can store (accumulate) a lot of hard drives and flash drives.
      1. Blackmokona
        Blackmokona 30 July 2016 12: 28
        0
        No, this is exactly the hard drive. There are already articles on the Internet with an analysis of all the subtleties.
  12. Shadowcat
    Shadowcat 29 July 2016 19: 27
    +3
    I sometimes wonder. Somehow we took ourselves for an ass about a year ago. But so with laziness.
    But let's look at the story, because we have experience. For example, the time of Peter the Great, or the time of Joseph Visarionovich Stalin. In both cases, equipment and technology of specialists were dragged from behind a hill (yes, and even I.V. Stalin took plants and built them with us. STZ (now the Volgograd Tractor Plant) for example, by whose technologies was it built?). How much time did they need for perestroika? Duc both can not forgive - burns. Since the latter, it’s so general that even if you create a reactor, there will be enough energy for two hundred years.
    And here in a year they demand world records. Here it’s either necessary that TopVar and many other resources become empty because in the morning in the field, at lunch at the factory, in the evening, load / unload a couple of trains, or as it is now, at least somehow, is done.
  13. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 29 July 2016 19: 38
    +6
    Quote: RuslanNN
    Well, given our individual achievements: Import substitution is moving around the country. One of the domestic developments, which is amazing, was an external drive weighing 25 kg and costing almost 4 million rubles. At the same time, its capacity is only 50 MB

    Vladimir Andreev, an employee of the Penza enterprise NIIFI and VT, explained the reason for the high price and strange dimensions of the hard drive on 50 MB, which is produced at his enterprise. Comments of the employee are given on the Facebook of the company “MyOffice”.

    «This is the development of 2000 of the year, used in special complexes of control systems. Then it was necessary to make an external non-volatile data storage device exclusively on domestic components, for military acceptance. Solid state memory modules were not produced in Russia at that time, and such a drive was created for that generation of computer technology, ”said Andreev.
    The employee also explained that special equipment for military purposes must necessarily be on the domestic element base.
    Earlier, the media drew attention to public procurement, which included an external drive, called VND-M2.05, for 3,7 million rubles. The hard drive is intended for use as an external memory device of a computer complex. Information is transmitted via the Manchester-2 interface, which was created according to GOST 26765.52-87, dated 1987 year.
    The manufacturer of the storage device is the NIIFI and VT enterprise, which is engaged in the research and development of electronic equipment.

    https://www.gazeta.ru/tech/news/2016/07/29/n_8936471.shtml
  14. Sergey333
    Sergey333 29 July 2016 20: 24
    +1
    Yeah, that’s where the klondike for spies is, you don’t need to look for anything, you just need to listen to the commander-in-chief on TV and listen to it, it will be clear how many weapons were fired and what caliber am
  15. Igor V
    Igor V 29 July 2016 20: 40
    +2
    "The Ministry of Defense will talk to debtors in the language of fines and sanctions."
    But the banks are always on horseback! Under usurious capitalism, one does not even have to think. Or maybe you need to make a state. bank for defense enterprises? And then others will catch up.
  16. japs
    japs 29 July 2016 21: 15
    +5
    The report is correct, dry and detailed.
    Only one can not give rest - a mention of the owners. The military-industrial complex can have only ONE owner - the people, those are - the state. No Shmuley Vaksbergs and Abramovichs. Only the state.
  17. Kudrevkn
    Kudrevkn 29 July 2016 21: 30
    +1
    The Vostochny cosmodrome is in trouble again: not only have they turned off the power (Amurenergo RAO UES), have they stolen almost 14 yards out of the 84 allocated? That is, almost a sixth part - to steal so on a large scale !? Apparently, the fate of Mr. Rogozin has been decided - the second "stricter" - "wick" from the President as the last Chinese warning! Yes, and on "Zvezda" (B. Kamen) again seems like a change of leadership, all for the same "Russian disease" (article)? And then, at the end of the year, as usual, Borisov will announce "the target figures for the fulfillment (underperformance) of the state defense order? Will there again be" someone "to blame? Delay of delivery?" Where is the money for tanks, Zin "? The same" rake "from year to year ! Aren't you tired of "crushing tits"?
  18. PN
    PN 29 July 2016 21: 52
    +1
    This article should be read in the voice of Igor Leonidovich Kirillov
  19. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 29 July 2016 22: 46
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    That's right, you need a simple control over the use of finances allocated in a targeted way to a specific object. At the same time, one does not need to immediately give more money than is required for planned work. Therefore, it is necessary to demand the execution of any operations on time. We are used to tearing part of the money from state orders and letting them do their side things
  20. denker1945
    denker1945 30 July 2016 08: 33
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    in half a year 47 missiles Caliber ... launches for 4 minutes ... each fleet has one caliber
  21. Retvizan
    Retvizan 30 July 2016 11: 35
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    And what is included in the "dependence of supplies from Ukraine"? It seems that they have reported long ago that everything is their own (although they are shipping as well). They did not reveal the secret, although it is understandable. In this way, you can damage 2 sides.
  22. cedar
    cedar 30 July 2016 16: 16
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    "The time for admonitions is over. The Ministry of Defense will talk to debtors in the language of sanctions and fines."

    It seems that this time of talking in the language of sanctions and fines is also passing. Gentlemen, Erdogan is coming to us, with a very valuable experience of intimate conversations with opponents ... "Turkish" and other streams. Putin also has enough opponents. You see for yourself. They cut off the energy on the "Vostochny", and for one and robbed. Harm as they can. There are elections ahead, how to be, how to live, whose and where corpses to lay, oh, to lay down the pipes ... There will be something to decide. After all, it was not thanks to Erdogan that they dragged him out of the afterlife. War is on, hybrid war.
  23. Aldobr
    Aldobr 30 July 2016 19: 04
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    Quote: geroirossii
    You need to work!


    And why not in the bathhouse, according to the profile picture, it's high time.
  24. isker
    isker 30 July 2016 20: 15
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    Yes, at least work hard!
    As long as there is a "private pocket" the size of an entire enterprise, there is no need to stutter about a planned economy! ..
    To paraphrase - Do not confuse the Moscow Ring Road with the rest of Russia ...
  25. Cobra77
    Cobra77 31 July 2016 03: 31
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    So I apparently don’t understand something in the current liberal market efficient economy. There is a defense order, there is a failure to meet deadlines, and not one-time, but systematic. That we have, in the best case, fines for enterprises that allowed this. How does this affect the owners and management personnel thereof? Minimally.
    Losses will be written off to workers by reducing wages, social conditions, etc., talking about the crisis, and the rest of the shnyaga. If some of the workers do it with a pen after that (for example, I did just that, in due time, because we also want to eat capitalism and the family too), the situation will be aggravated with the execution of work on orders, because the worker can be on the assembly line and can be replaced by a couple of months, but an engineer digging a topic for many years and knowing dofig and more, it will be necessary to replace at least a year or more. And even those who want to go for less money on the market are few (unfortunately, working in the defense industry is still not very profitable for qualified personnel, I would be happy to work on defense again, but I’m not ready to lose at least one and a half times or more for money) and who goes mostly poorly qualified, yesterday’s students. Those. It was not the management of the enterprise and its owners who were really to blame for the disruption of the work, but ordinary performers and along the way worsened the work of the already poorly functioning enterprise.
    For some reason, it seems to me intuitively that the personal responsibility of the directorate, leading engineers, owners, right up to the criminal (I liked the terms a couple of times, I sat down to the top five), for .. in the state. orders, especially in defense, will greatly accelerate work, improve quality and reduce disruptions to acceptable values. It was by looking at things inside the defense industry in the zero years that I understood why, during the time of Stalin, it was not uncommon for people to send down a forest, for disrupting work, that’s why they were very right. It’s not otherwise treated.