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Battle of history

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A series of statements by the Polish Minister of Defense alone, Anthony (Anthony) Macherevich, gives rise to talk about the clear need for protection historical the truth and how important such protection is in the face of tremendous pressure from both inside and outside on Russian politics to defend their interests. To begin with, it is worth recalling that the Polish Minister of Defense has recently become, so to speak, a pseudo-historical newsmaker who re-writes history worse than Rezun-Suvorov. Of the last pearls of Macherevich, one can single out his statement that the Soviet special services at one time provoked the massacre of the OUN-UPA by the Nazis in Volyn, as well as a statement about the Warsaw Uprising as the largest battle of the Second World War, which in addition allowed to prevent the Red Army from moving west .

One could not pay any attention to these ministerial ravings. However, it is not too often that we are accustomed to ignore such heresy, which has nothing to do with real historical facts. After all, if we miss one, two, three, then then those before whom the goal is set up to spoil, even in a historical retrospective, there is a chance to refer to each other. As a result, statements such as those that make all sorts of "macheseviches" may very well be in documents that pretend to historical essays and references. Years through 10 in the same Poland, they will safely forget that Pan Macieczewicz was at the helm of the Defense Ministry, but his words about the Warsaw Uprising could well become the basis for regular interpretations of the history of the Second World War and, as a result, her soviet people.

What really bothers you? It’s not even the fact that speaking heads in the governments of the countries of the former socialist camp more and more often have a desire to spew out a lie more like a blatant provocation. In the end, it is a foreign state that live with it. It is disturbing that we ourselves - at home - cannot in any way decide on a certain kind of measure, conclude a theory of social contract, perhaps to at least try to offer our children a single history textbook.

It is quite clear that the very idea of ​​a single line of history textbooks (as well as a single line of textbooks on other disciplines) strikes at a business system that in recent years has perfectly learned how to make money on numerous reprints of school and university literature. Moreover, these reprints from each other are often distinguished by diametrically opposite interpretations of the same event. If with the exact sciences such an opposite interpretation is impossible by definition (although there are creative “managers” there as well), then with the same story is actually complete freedom for any authors. For some time now, the freemen, it seems, have been hit in the form of a more detailed definition of the historical concept at the state level, but this does not prevent individual representatives of the business community employed in the system to push such “scientific” instances into the education system that place really in the trash - no more. Not Rezun and Zubov, so the new delicacy is edited by the HSE, which we, it turns out, is often behind the concept of textbooks ...

Only at the moment more than a dozen history textbooks are offered to senior schoolchildren in our country (depending on the region, municipality, school, director, teacher). Here is a list for the high school 11 class: a textbook by A.A. Levandovsky, a textbook by O.V. Volobuev and M.V. Ponomarev, a textbook by V.A. Shestakova and A.N. Sakharova, a textbook by V.S. Izmozika and S. N. Rudnik, textbook V.P.Dmitrenko, V.D. Esakov and again V.A. Shestakova, textbook by A.O. Chubaryan, textbook by S.V. Kuleshov and O.V. Volobueva, textbook by V.A. Klokova and again O.V. Volobueva, textbook by O.Yu.Plenkova, TP Andreevskaya and SV Shevchenko, textbook by A.N. Aleksashkin, textbook by A.F. Kisilev and V.P.Popov, textbook by A.A. Danilov and A.I. Utkin, textbook O.S. Sokol-Züp, textbook N.V. Zagladin. Wow list for the younger generation of their own opinions about history ...

Battle of history


It is clear that a normal teacher himself will select for his children suitable educational literature, which would more or less clearly tell about the historical upheavals in the life of our country and not only. But where is the guarantee that a) there are not quite normal ones and, excuse me, not at all normal, b) for the sake of "enhanced preparation for the exam," the students themselves will not plunge into a pile of textbooks with mutually exclusive interpretations that can wreak havoc in the young head?

The question is not so much the creation of a single textbook, which the Ministry of Education and Science still refuses, waving its hands, but in a single concept of material presentation. And - the concept of unambiguous - without the fact that would pour water on the mill "macherevich" and the like. A question and in experts. After all, today teachers come to schools who received their pedagogical education in 90, when “everything was mixed up in the Oblonskys' house”. And it is not the teachers' fault that the very process of their preparation was going on in times of dashing changes. Are there many teachers in our country who, what are called, respond to destructive challenges, and also taking into account the fact that the Ministry of Education and Science does not always respond to the challenges, to put it mildly.

By the way, not so long ago I had to face the “documentary” film of the British “experts”, broadcast in the Russian Federation, in which the “information” had been heard. The host, traveling in Russia, quite seriously asserts that he is now visiting a church in Moscow, built by Ivan the Terrible, who executed about 10 millions of people! 10 MILLION PEOPLE ... And this was in the time of John IV, when the population of all Russia hardly reached that value. But this program was looked at both in the West and in Russia, and everyone who, in principle, did not think about this nonsense, took seriously how bloodthirsty this Ivan the Terrible was. But have you heard something similar about the bloodthirstiness of Maria de Medici? Despite the fact that this lady provoked a large-scale massacre, in which, according to the most conservative estimates of historians, only overnight (St. Bartholomew) killed more than thirty thousand French Huguenots, Western history tractors do not speak about the bloody disposition of this historical persona. It is understandable: is it possible to compare "10 millions" (still few people check ...) in Russia and "some 30 thousands" in France ... And after all, all this is reflected in textbooks and hanging noodles on modern ears schoolchildren.

As a result, pearls appear about the release by the “Ukrainians” of Auschwitz prisoners, that Stalin had to abandon the confrontation near Leningrad in order to “save lives”, that the USSR was supposedly going to attack Germany in 1941, o “Soviet occupiers” in Ukraine, in the Baltic States and everywhere else — and without reports that factories, universities, schools, hospitals, theaters remained after these “occupants” and that the “occupied” economically often lived better than the “occupiers”.

All this pseudo-historical heresy must be burned at the root. And the best tool for this is a unified approach to reporting on historical events in state educational institutions. No one is going to forbid schoolchildren to independently get acquainted with other “interpretations”, please ... but only outside the framework of the program. At least about 10 million "killed by Ivan the Terrible", at least about the "Cossack underwater navy and digging of the Black Sea with protoucra. ” At least to assess the inadequacy of the authors of these statements ...

The state and the people have repeatedly come across the fact that it usually pours porridge brewed on historical distortions and outright lies.
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  1. Tatar 174
    Tatar 174 27 July 2016 06: 21
    +27
    And it seems to me that at the beginning in the Russian history textbook everything that was in the History of the USSR textbook should be unchanged, and then information about the collapse of the USSR and beyond should be added to it. We grew up and studied according to Soviet textbooks, and normal ones grew up, patriots, almost everything, and why something needs to be changed, because this is our History - it is what it was.
    1. inkass_98
      inkass_98 27 July 2016 06: 58
      +11
      It does not seem to you, it should be so, as in the USSR. A single curriculum, only with a different degree of saturation, depending on the age of the student. Yes, there were slightly different approaches to teaching, but there were different textbooks for schools, universities of an unhistorical orientation and separate historical faculties.
      Cast aside ideology, give facts. The interpretation of the facts can and should be done by the student himself.
      1. nadezhiva
        nadezhiva 27 July 2016 08: 12
        +3
        Quote: inkass_98
        .... the way it should be, as in the USSR. A single curriculum, only with a different degree of saturation, depending on the age of the student.
        When there will be a single textbook on history, no one is taken to predict.
        To date, we do not even have a single program in the Russian language (starting from elementary school), where the endless struggle of the St. Petersburg and Moscow schools of teaching no longer causes bewilderment.
        1. jjj
          jjj 27 July 2016 09: 44
          0
          Quote: nadezhiva
          the endless struggle of the St. Petersburg and Moscow schools of teaching

          Spelling in Russian - according to Rosenthal since the time of Ono. In the ranks of the Romanian Kasseriu. And discrepancies in orthoepy. Pronunciation schools - four. Staromoskovskaya, Novomoskovskaya, St. Petersburg and Prague. What to do about the country is huge, people say differently. By the way, in the same Germany, few people understand
          1. Temples
            Temples 27 July 2016 14: 07
            0
            And it seems to me that at the beginning in the Russian history textbook everything that was in the USSR history textbook should be unchanged


            Well, you don’t draw an icon.
            The textbooks of the USSR were full of crap.
            Everything related to the collapse of the Empire is a blatant lie.
            World War I is the same crap.

            Need a real story.
            In fact, the chronology of events without political order, but through the eyes of a Russian person.

            And the West ALWAYS lied.
            And now he continues to lie.

            And do you see it politically incorrect for our "historians" to talk about a victory over the French?
            Authorities canceled the celebration of the victory of that war. (This was done by Romanov, but he was the power of that time)

            Now it’s politically incorrect to say that they fought with the Germans.
            The Germans replace the word with "Hitlerites" and similar nonsense.

            To the Finns who fought against us in general, thank-you boards are molded. negative

            So there are a lot of questions.

            It would be time for the "historians" to decide who they serve - the homeland or politicians.
        2. Volzhanin
          Volzhanin 27 July 2016 10: 00
          +1
          The order was given long ago, only the liberalists put it on him with the device.
          1. Alena Frolovna
            Alena Frolovna 27 July 2016 11: 23
            +3
            HISTORY - the treasury of our deeds, witness to the past,
            example and lesson for the present, a warning for the future.

            Miguel de Cervantes
          2. Reserve officer
            Reserve officer 27 July 2016 19: 14
            +2
            "All this pseudo-historical heresy should be burned out in the bud. And the best tool for this is a unified approach to the coverage of historical events in state educational institutions."


            Well, what's the matter? I remember that even the president spoke of a single history textbook. And already five years have passed after that. And where is this creation, huh? Comrades historians with advanced degrees, well, where is the historical truth on the pages of the textbook?
      2. Mareman Vasilich
        Mareman Vasilich 27 July 2016 09: 01
        +10
        Quote: inkass_98
        Cast aside ideology, give facts.


        Soviet ideology has already been discarded, replaced today with anti-Soviet, religious - as a result, we are in the ass. I mean, ideology is needed, but a healthy and correct ideology is needed, no worse than the one that was during the USSR.
        1. tatra
          tatra 27 July 2016 09: 17
          +3
          Quote: Mareman Vasilich
          Soviet ideology has already been discarded, replaced today with anti-Soviet, religious

          But the enemies of the Communists in the USSR have nothing of their own.
          If the USSR was a natural cultural, historical continuation of centuries-old Russia, the communists were very careful about the history of pre-revolutionary Russia, and created their own positive, creative, truly patriotic ideology, then the enemies of the communists have nothing but their anti-Soviet-Russophobic "historical truth" with a complex of "eternal victims" and their "heroes" against the Soviet / Russian / Russian people.
      3. grandfather Mih
        grandfather Mih 27 July 2016 09: 49
        0
        Quote: inkass_98
        Cast aside ideology, give facts.

        Well, then brings some to the side and in parallel. Fortunately, you can think of an outlet. "Mental stash" What to talk about at work: Lived in ancient times Abderets. "I did not take seriously what was being done seriously." Here is a small step towards understanding the “laughing philosopher”. So 30 years ago, I went beyond the "serious". Imagined the movement of a photon along the Mobius loop. I spread the resulting "portion" in a straight line. The first thing I saw: the planets of the solar system gathered in groups. In the group, I drew attention to the axis of rotation of the planets. It is known that: the Sun was formed inside the nebula, the planets were "collected" from the nebula's substance ("planetesimals" in a row), inside the Sun - nuclear reactions, each type of reaction - a group of planets, etc. Further, even funnier. Mass has (according to Einstein) its own time, time is “one-dimensional” (there is no past), galaxies “scatter” ... Something ran away by itself ... Yes, energy is “thrown out” in portions (vector in time) and in Kepler's orbits is collected in three-dimensional coordinates ( you can draw petals on the axes (for clarity, the "gimbal rule")) ... Mndeleev's table ... Mountain of work. Data. Here is about "sideways and parallel." And then the meaning is lost. Yes, and also Roman in 30 years.
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    3. siberalt
      siberalt 27 July 2016 07: 06
      +4
      And how can we fight for our history if we are forbidden to have our own ideology? am The winners write the story. But without a common idea, it is impossible to win.
    4. Mareman Vasilich
      Mareman Vasilich 27 July 2016 08: 58
      +3
      There will be no such thing in the country of capitalism and anti-Sovietism.
    5. Vend
      Vend 27 July 2016 09: 54
      +1
      a normal teacher will choose the appropriate educational literature for his children
      Not certainly in that way. There is an approved program for teachers to work on. And everything else goes into additional classes.
    6. Cat
      Cat 27 July 2016 10: 10
      +4
      Historical science does not stand still, but also develops. If textbooks on antique (ancient) history and the history of the Middle Ages are classics and they are still relevant today. That is not so simple in Russian history. In Soviet textbooks there are a lot of cliches and omissions. They are very odious, that it is not a popular uprising, that it is not a war, it is a "small land", etc. in defense of modern textbooks, I want to give an example. At one time he was fond of the Kasimov Khanate and about its role in the history of Russia. In 2005, he took the 6th grade textbook of his wife's brother and, surprisingly, found a brief mention of the Kasimov Khanate.
      My opinion is the best textbook has not been written yet.
      Ps a life example. I finished school in 1995. In 11th grade, I witnessed how a history teacher refused to conduct a lesson on the events of 1993, I quote: the teacher put aside the guidelines and quietly told us - the girls and boys don’t know what to say either what is written here and showed us the manual or what tells a heart. Was silent for a while. History will put everything in its place. Let's get ready for the exam.
      End of quote.
      1. Donhapa
        Donhapa 27 July 2016 12: 39
        +7
        Quote: Kotischa

        ... I witnessed how a history teacher refused to give a lesson on the events of 1993, I quote: the teacher put aside the guidelines and quietly told us - the girls and boys don’t know what to say either what is written here and showed us the manual or what the heart tells . Was silent for a while. History will put everything in its place. Let's get ready for the exam.
        End of quote.

        The teacher seems to be decent, in contrast to the leadership of the Ministry of Education
    7. fennekRUS
      fennekRUS 27 July 2016 12: 49
      0
      just, since they remembered Ivan 4
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    8. Vend
      Vend 27 July 2016 17: 38
      +1
      Quote: Tartar 174
      But it seems to me that at the beginning in the textbook of Russian history everything that was in the textbook History of the USSR without changes should
      That is, the Slavs appeared from the V-VII centuries? Well, the pipes. A sufficient number of sources confirms that Slavic tribes appeared much earlier. So you should talk about this in schools.
  2. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 27 July 2016 06: 25
    +12
    pseudo-historical heresy should be burned at the root. And the best tool for this is a unified approach to reporting on historical events in state educational institutions.

    I completely agree with the author, especially since the issue has been raised very painful for our country at present. And the point is not only in a single history textbooks. Just look who teaches students at universities. These people often flash on political talk shows and enjoy pouring out all their hatred for the country in which they were born and received education. But they teach students, and they teach that, as a result, it will result in hatred of the country.
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 27 July 2016 08: 28
      +3
      That is precisely what such treacherous tendencies lay in Higher Education ---- future doctors, teachers and other specialists who will later come to management ---- from district to state ones. Then, most Russophobic actions will probably take place. due to today's events. If not changed dramatically.
      1. Mareman Vasilich
        Mareman Vasilich 27 July 2016 09: 02
        +2
        This is all done on purpose, capitalism needs.
      2. ver_
        ver_ 28 July 2016 03: 36
        0
        If you teach history "on garlic" - it will hit the Church, and the State cannot decide on this ... This could have been done only during the times of "militant atheism" .. Atheism is now in the pen. The elites are now all crazy about religion - they think they will forgive their sins and go straight to Paradise.
  3. parusnik
    parusnik 27 July 2016 06: 27
    +5
    All this pseudo-historical heresy must be burned at the root. ... Pravdyuk, on the TV channel 365 days, it cuts such a truth .. and try to burn it out ... And the truth is he .. is so interesting .. with a smell ...
    1. Donhapa
      Donhapa 27 July 2016 12: 44
      +3
      Quote: parusnik
      All this pseudo-historical heresy must be burned at the root. ... Pravdyuk, on the TV channel 365 days, it cuts such a truth .. and try to burn it out ... And the truth is he .. is so interesting .. with a smell ...

      The surname of this, truly, must be appropriate, also with a reserve ...
  4. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 27 July 2016 06: 34
    +9
    We will be friends with pshek when we regularly weigh them. Historical fact however.
    1. victorsh
      victorsh 27 July 2016 08: 45
      +10
      I support !!! I, as a shy Ukrainian, Little Russian, crest (not to be confused with the modern-grandfathers were from the Cossacks and defended Russia) DO NOT UNDERSTAND the bending of MY Russia to the cannibals pshek (the historical fact of their sitting in the Moscow Kremlin) !.
      Want to be honest. Great. open the archives. And let the Psheks open the archives. AND WHEN THEY WILL ASK FOR AN Apology for tens of thousands of killed Russians (Tatars, etc., etc. and Jews by the way) in the concentration camps, who will answer for this?
      The residents of Smolensk region. they asked, do they need a monument to the Polish murderers of their relatives?
      Ale Smolyan!
      1. KBR109
        KBR109 27 July 2016 16: 33
        +5
        You, crest, you can throw a lot of such examples. Do you need a board for the Leningrad executioner in St. Petersburg? And the Yeltsin Center is a monument to the grave digger of a great country for crazy money. And the preservation of the country's money at a meager percentage in amerskie securities, and at the same time, they have loans at a completely different interest. This is not bending Russia ???
  5. koksalek
    koksalek 27 July 2016 06: 51
    +9
    We can’t undo some rotten USE, to say nothing of bringing the truth to the masses. Rullers of education themselves dance to someone’s pipes that their wrong policy is visible even to the laziest
  6. Arkan
    Arkan 27 July 2016 06: 55
    +8
    Russophobia is the only thing that the "Romance" can oppose to the self-sufficient Slavic Civilization, because under the mask of the Western world, the face of a savage Neanderthal is clearly visible. We must teach our children the real history of our ancestors and not allow Russophobic stuffing into our information and educational space. Our children should be proud of our glorious history.
  7. Fei_Wong
    Fei_Wong 27 July 2016 06: 58
    +5
    Quote: Dmitry Potapov
    We will be friends with pshek when we regularly weigh them. Historical fact however.

    1936 W. Churchill: "Poland - the hyena of Europe".
    She was, she remains. But this was said not by some bloodthirsty evil Stalin, but by the bright uncle elf Churchill!
    But I would rephrase it more urgently: "Poland is the world goldsmith (Mr. Vnovoz, who does not know the meaning) of the West."
  8. Mangel olys
    Mangel olys 27 July 2016 07: 06
    +4
    There would be no such battles around a single history textbook if there were a whole ideology recognized by all peoples in the country. Today, in the absence of common value guidelines and the dominance of opinions about the need for deideologization, history is becoming the subject of conceptual debate about crucial issues. The best way to reach a consensus is to take the point of view of the maximum objectivity of history that scientists, not politicians, can provide.
  9. moskowit
    moskowit 27 July 2016 07: 40
    +5
    The article is very timely and correct. It is necessary to speak about the problems raised by the Author at the state level ... Television broadcasts on leading channels are needed.

    "... there is a chance to refer to each other. As a result, statements similar to those made by all sorts of" stepchiefs "may calmly end up in documents claiming to be historical essays and references ..."

    There are already many examples in the interpretation of events and from our history. Especially the 20 century ...
    I have already seen and read references to Rezun (Suvorov), to Solonin, to Svanidze.
    There is a group of historians aggressively promoting their views, ignoring any facts of recent history. Svanidze, Pivovarov, publicist Mlechin and several others. But they also teach history courses at universities ...
  10. tatra
    tatra 27 July 2016 07: 46
    +2
    All this is good, but anti-Sovietism / Russophobia is a consequence of the mentality of the enemies of the Communists who seized the USSR and the socialist countries of Eastern Europe, there is no escape from this.
  11. cap
    cap 27 July 2016 07: 49
    +4
    "All this pseudo-historical heresy should be burned out in the bud. And the best tool for this is a unified approach to the coverage of historical events in state educational institutions. Volodin Aleksey"

    As long as "cash" in science will rule in the absence of ideological attitudes, nothing will change.
    Here, one minister is not enough. This is a question for lawmakers, a question of history is a question of ideology.

    The slogan "if you are so smart, why are you so poor" was not launched in vain, so we will hardly wait for the second Perelman in the near future.
    1. ver_
      ver_ 28 July 2016 05: 26
      +1
      ..there is no greater harm than ideological attitudes in history. This is how history is falsified for the sake of momentary benefits in political issues. What is written with a pen cannot be knocked out with an ax .., in any case, "eradicating the Jews" in history will be very difficult ..
  12. then
    then 27 July 2016 07: 51
    +2
    There is a lie, a deceit, a forgery and further history. How to handle this? Facts, only facts and nothing but facts. We reject the extreme points of view (as in mathematics).
  13. Sidel45
    Sidel45 27 July 2016 08: 09
    +4
    The article is good, there is no dispute, and I generally agree with it - a poor history in each era is faked for the interests of that era, or rather, the ruling regime of the era. But the author in one place did exactly the same as the "macerevichi" criticized by him. The massacre of the Huguenots in the 16th century in France ("St. Bartholomew's Night") was perpetrated not by the second wife of King Henry IV, MARIA Medici, but by her relative and mother of King Charles IX, during whose reign this night took place, EKATERINA Medici, who was a generation older.
    1. ver_
      ver_ 28 July 2016 05: 55
      0
      ..Maria Medici - a cast from Sophia Paleologus-wife of John the Terrible ..
  14. EvgNik
    EvgNik 27 July 2016 08: 16
    +1
    All politics is one big lie. And for the sake of this policy, history is redrawn:
  15. engineer74
    engineer74 27 July 2016 08: 17
    +8
    This is not the first article on history in education. And all the authors have one mega idea: "Let's hit with the truth on a lie!" This approach is, to put it mildly, very naive and counterproductive! There is an information war going on and we must fight, not make excuses! In the first place should be ideology, in the second place history - any actions of Russia, the USSR, the Russian Federation should be covered from the positive side. It is also necessary to bring negativity to the masses about opponents: the genocide of the Indians, the gloomor in the USA (30s), the massive repression of the Japanese (41-45), the setup in Pearl Harbor, the genocide of the UPA Poles, the genocide of the Ukrainians by the army of Craiova, the Ukrainians themselves and etc. We must carry this to the masses! Support Western "historians" pouring slop on their countries, organize "societies of victims of St. Bartholomew's Night", etc.
    IMHO
    1. WINovikov
      WINovikov 27 July 2016 08: 43
      +1
      IMHO: The most adequate answer!
    2. stivev
      stivev 27 July 2016 10: 44
      +2
      I fully support
    3. Gardamir
      Gardamir 27 July 2016 13: 54
      +3
      any actions of Russia, the USSR, the Russian Federation should be covered from a positive side. It is also necessary to bring to the masses the negative about the opponents: the genocide of the Indians, the Glodomor in the USA (30th), the mass repressions of the Japanese (41-45), the setup in Pearl Harbor, the genocide of the Poles of the UPA, the genocide of the Ukrainians by the Craiova army, the Ukrainians themselves made the glodomor and etc. It must be carried to the masses!
      all residents of the country, from hard workers to the president, should learn this, those who disagree should be told "who is not with us is against us"!
  16. antivirus
    antivirus 27 July 2016 08: 22
    +2
    No one wants to say to the Minister of Defense of Poland: Grow a thick, long beard to keep warm in the winter in Kolyma.
  17. drop
    drop 27 July 2016 08: 22
    +2
    Dear Aleksey, the trouble here is that when interviewing students at the universities, students dramatically answer the questions of the teacher and are subject to dropouts. A single history textbook aimed at patriotism is the only way. Look at Ukraine what Gorbachev and Yeltsin did with the youth of this country. It could also be with us on Bolotnaya Square. But glory to God is rotten. I have the honor.
    1. Was mammoth
      Was mammoth 27 July 2016 08: 48
      0
      Quote: Drop
      A single history textbook aimed at patriotism is the only way. Look at Ukraine what Gorbachev and Yeltsin did with the youth of this country. Could it be with us on Bolotnaya Square

      The textbook alone is not enough, even more so if it contains one version. Moreover, in writing it under patriotism, you can write anything you want. And who will write? One of the professionals who also checked in on "VO"? And with this textbook to continue zombifying the youth. Do you think that only in Ukraine they succeeded? An illustrative article with a photo on "Echo" - "Infection with Pokémon has seized Moscow."
      http://echo.msk.ru/blog/varlamov_i/1808604-echo/
      Do these hunters need a true story? I recommend, s.
      1. Koshak
        Koshak 27 July 2016 15: 55
        0
        Quote: There was a mammoth
        Do these hunters need a true story?

        Can normal people focus on these fool hunters? Let them learn, instead of catching Pokemon, or maybe someone will keep them for life ... wassat
        Here is the picture: gray-haired, decrepit hunters are wandering for Pokemon ... laughing
        1. Was mammoth
          Was mammoth 27 July 2016 16: 57
          +2
          Quote: Koshak
          Is it possible for normal people to focus on these fool hunters?

          Most of these "hunters" are young people, the future of the country. Any "truth" of history will suit such people. And any guide. Do you need such a future?
  18. 1536
    1536 27 July 2016 08: 22
    +3
    I fully support the opinion expressed in the article about repelling all sorts of crooks, who received the rostrum and the opportunity to bear any nonsense from it. Them
    must be stopped. For this, it is customary in the scientific world to organize open conferences, hearings, congresses, and finally, where competent scientists speak the truth, surviving from their ranks as thugs and liars. Why not take advantage of this experience? We have outstanding scientists-historians, whom the whole world knows, in the West not everyone has gone mad and not everyone has been bitten by Brzezinski. They must say their weighty word, stop Polish fascism!
    Actually, it seems that the great American idea has triumphed in Poland: "So what, that we have m ... ki in the White House, we are normal and we feel good!" A dangerous tendency, a delusion that ends with the coming to power of outright fascists.
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  20. WINovikov
    WINovikov 27 July 2016 08: 39
    +5
    Or maybe disperse the pseudo-historians from the HSE? They each have their own "most objective" vision of history. Under Peter I, there were already such historians, but at least they were foreigners. And these, for the deduction of interest from the sale of textbooks, for copyright profits, are producing more and more textbooks.
  21. s30461
    s30461 27 July 2016 08: 47
    +5
    It is not necessary to start with itorics and textbooks, but with the Minister of Education and the ministry itself. First they need to be multiplied by zero, and then deal with the authors of the textbooks and their opuses. The question of creating a single textbook is not worth a damn: you just want to. But with the Wishlist, our liberal government somehow does not all work out - for some reason they want something completely different from what the people want. And at the same time, they are convincing us in every possible way that this is exactly what we want, but we have no idea. Vladimir Vladimirovich, when will the people be heard ??? How many letters do you need to write so that you understand how disastrous is the path imposed by the USA on our country ????????
    1. Vasily Krylov
      Vasily Krylov 27 July 2016 10: 10
      +1
      Yes, yes and yes again. Carthage must be destroyed. The international government must resign. Respectfully Krylov.
  22. mikh-korsakov
    mikh-korsakov 27 July 2016 09: 17
    +5
    You cannot fight for the truth about Russia if the state ideology is banned. In addition, if we want to educate young people so that they are engaged in work, study and sports, and not engage in catching Pokemon, we need to stop getting up in front of young people in a bashful pose, they say, Stalin "on the one hand is a great statesman, and on the other hand is a bloody tyrant". Young people must understand the mainstream and understand that in order to achieve success in life, they must achieve success in work, science or sports, and not in speculation on the stock exchange. It is necessary to understand that the incomes of youth idols are excessive, but they will be a beacon for youth. not stories of a glorious past. The past is glorious, but in modern times great business is not visible, or rather they are, for example, reunification with the Crimea, or for example, albeit clumsy, but participation in the Olympics. However, these achievements are being successfully blamed. as if in the interests of truth. and no one says what kind of stress was required from our officials in order to somehow participate in the Olympics under the influence of a squall of barking "our friends and partners". Instead, they diligently emphasize the negative sides of the compromise for us.
  23. atamankko
    atamankko 27 July 2016 09: 20
    +4
    Ruined a good education system,
    and "pride" does not allow to return to it.
  24. Dimy4
    Dimy4 27 July 2016 09: 22
    0
    ... with a "documentary" film by British "experts" ...

    Likely to be shot directly from nature, traveling by time machine. So Ivan Vasilyevich really changed his profession.
  25. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 27 July 2016 11: 13
    +7
    Here they are, Macachevechi. laughing
  26. iouris
    iouris 27 July 2016 11: 22
    +1
    Textbooks and film scripts for the peoples of the "third world" (third party) are written by order of well-known structures in the United States (no matter where). These textbooks and films are part of the empire's software (and each element of the empire must know its own maneuver).
  27. Turkir
    Turkir 27 July 2016 11: 47
    +2
    Articles of this kind are simply necessary.
    The correct title of the article.
  28. Zulu_S
    Zulu_S 27 July 2016 12: 53
    +1
    *** "a unified approach to the coverage of historical events in state educational institutions." ***
    There is not and cannot be the "only correct" approach. The task of the state is to ensure not a uniform interpretation, but the prevention of FALSE FACTS, Fiction, passed off as facts, in school textbooks. Otherwise, HISTORICAL SCIENCE in our country will cease to exist, and the subject at school will have to be called "state mythology". It's like "History of the CPSU" - there was a scientific discipline, professors, doctors and candidates of science, departments in every university were, but there was no science.
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 27 July 2016 17: 12
      +1
      Quote: Zulu_S
      The task of the state is to ensure not a uniform interpretation, but the prevention of FALSE FACTS, Fiction, passed off as facts, in school textbooks. Otherwise, HISTORICAL SCIENCE in our country will cease to exist, and the subject at school will have to be called "state mythology".

      "Facts do not exist, there are only interpretations of the facts" Nietzsche.

      Historians do not sow and do not plow. They are on the content of those in power and do not dare to bite the giving hand. A good example is the former republics of the USSR. As soon as the power changed, so did the outlook on history.

      How many times in the history of Russia, Russia, the USSR, and again Russia, has the social system changed, and how many rulers have changed? How many fairy tales have been written and rewritten to please those in power? Historians themselves no longer know where the truth is, but where is the fiction.

      My attitude to this issue. If we want to save Russia - there should be only one history textbook, it must educate young people in the spirit of patriotism and love for the motherland. For independent study - all that anyone wants, but not at school.
      1. tatra
        tatra 27 July 2016 17: 29
        +3
        Quote: Boris55
        educate young people in the spirit of patriotism and love for the homeland.

        You need to educate on specific EXAMPLES. The Communists educated the people on the examples of labor and military exploits of the Soviet people, on the examples of true love, friendship, on the examples of patriotism.
        And on what will the enemies of the Communists bring up youth?
        They slandered the Soviet period, they have nothing to be proud of in the post-Soviet period, and they don’t remember the history of pre-revolutionary Russia, except for what they need in anti-Soviet propaganda.
  29. Prutkov
    Prutkov 27 July 2016 12: 57
    +3
    Not just that. If you recall the 91st year, then people who studied in the Soviet school destroyed the country. The first to "repaint" in zhovto-blakytni paints in our VUZE, namely, representatives of the department of history of the CPSU. The main resource of volunteers and Terbats now in Ukraine are people aged 40 and over, i.e. taught history from Soviet textbooks. It is important, first of all, to make it clear to the students why they are learning history.
  30. pl675
    pl675 27 July 2016 13: 06
    +1
    Quote: victorsh
    I support !!! I, as a shy Ukrainian, Little Russian, crest (not to be confused with the modern-grandfathers were from the Cossacks and defended Russia) DO NOT UNDERSTAND the bending of MY Russia to the cannibals pshek (the historical fact of their sitting in the Moscow Kremlin) !.
    Want to be honest. Great. open the archives. And let the Psheks open the archives. AND WHEN THEY WILL ASK FOR AN Apology for tens of thousands of killed Russians (Tatars, etc., etc. and Jews by the way) in the concentration camps, who will answer for this?
    The residents of Smolensk region. they asked, do they need a monument to the Polish murderers of their relatives?
    Ale Smolyan!
    у

    that is precisely why history cannot be called a science - with the archives closed from all sides, the secrecy regime, the destruction of "unwanted" documents, history will never be true for everyone.
    everyone has their own truth.
  31. antivirus
    antivirus 27 July 2016 13: 16
    +1
    Quote: Mareman Vasilich
    Quote: inkass_98
    Cast aside ideology, give facts.


    Soviet ideology has already been discarded, replaced today with anti-Soviet, religious - as a result, we are in the ass. I mean, ideology is needed, but a healthy and correct ideology is needed, no worse than the one that was during the USSR.

    as a result we are in full ass.
  32. kig
    kig 27 July 2016 17: 43
    +1
    History is the most unpredictable science. Everyone wants a historical truth, but no one has yet been able to articulate the definition of such a "truth". It turns out that everyone has their own.
    1. Lyubopyatov
      Lyubopyatov 27 July 2016 19: 26
      +2
      Nothing like this. The truth is one. But we live under occupational power.
      1. kig
        kig 28 July 2016 10: 35
        0
        Yeah, try talking to the Poles and Ukrainians about the historical truth about the Volyn events.
  33. Dal arya
    Dal arya 27 July 2016 23: 25
    0
    Of course we have a dozen history textbooks. This is quite logical under liberal power. We are tolerant, everyone has the right to self-expression .... everyone has the right to write their own history book. And everyone has the right to choose, we are the same in Europe. that any minor problems will surely run into a big one. But across the ocean, I think our layouts are very comfortable for everyone. If only Kudrin’s presidency and the Yankees would generally sleep peacefully.