The date and place of meeting of the presidents of Russia and Turkey are determined.

It became known about when and where the President of Turkey Recep Tayyip Erdogan will hold a meeting with President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin. The fact that this meeting will take place, and it will be held in Russia, was previously reported by the press service of both presidents. Now there is a specifics in this question.

Turkish Deputy Prime Minister Mehmet Shimshek said that the leaders of the two countries will meet on August 9 in St. Petersburg. This is reported by the news agencies of the two countries.

Political scientists, "pushing each other", rushed to make predictions about how much the foreign policy of the Russian Federation and Turkey will change in relation to each other after the St. Petersburg meeting of Putin and Erdogan.

Recall that earlier information appeared about the meeting of Vladimir Putin and Erdogan not earlier than in September on the margins of the G-20 summit.

Against this background, the reaction to the attempted coup d'etat continues in Turkey. Thus, the Turkish authorities have published materials that, in their opinion, are evidence of involvement in the attempted coup by preacher Fethullah Gulen. These "evidence" in the form of infographics published on the website of the information agency Anadolu:

This and other information obtained by the Turkish secret services after interrogation of arrested soldiers of the Turkish army. Meanwhile, supporters of Gülen claim that the testimony of those arrested was knocked out "under torture."

Comments

[jjj]

Sultan asks for patronage of the president of Russia?

[Dimontius]

The main thing is to know when to stop in "friendship No. 2" with Turkey, and in time it will stop. And in no case should large investments be directed there without short-term returns. For Erdogan is changeable and not constant, and now he makes decisions against the background of unprecedented pressure on all fronts on his sultanate. And here we need to knock out and secure the most profitable deals for ourselves. And it would not be a bad idea to pull up Iran, so to speak, "third."

[Temples]

We live in an interesting time.

To give advice, and to guess - toil with foolishness.

It's much more interesting to just watch what is happening.
Moreover, both presidents have advisers.
Yes, and they have more information and knowledge than ours

[siberalt]

Will be requested in the EAEU. But for this you need to get out of NATO

[avt]

Quote: jjj

Sultan asks for patronage of the president of Russia?

And in Livadia it would be a good practice to accept him.

Quote: V.ic

The tatami is prepared for the meeting. Let the "sultan" not forget to grab a kimono,

And skiing.

Quote: Dimontius

The main thing is to know when to stop in "friendship No. 2" with Turkey,

More precisely - to think carefully about this move in the Big Game, with a view to preparing at least the next two at least in the medium term.

Quote: Temples

To give advice, and to guess - toil with foolishness.

since

Quote: Temples

Yes, and they have more information and knowledge than ours

Well, at the expense of knowledge - sometimes a debatable question for some representatives of the elite, over there, at the governor of Orlovsky, Vanya No. 4, he turns out to have lost his son due to illness while traveling from Moscow to .... Petersburg , and according to the information, yes. Naturally more.

[faridg7]

Quote: avt

And in Livadia it would be a good practice to accept him.

Oh, I would have received him in my basement for a short time, but I won’t go. Of course Putin will agree with this freak and there will be silverware, but the bitch on my birthday was shot down and shot RUSSIAN PILOT !!!!
I shot my Turk, but somehow it didn’t help. The only thing that calms me down a bit is that purges are now under way in the Turkish army, which will undoubtedly weaken it, it is only a pity that with all this the Turkish pack did not arrange for the massacre of each other. They are all and Peshkov’s toe is not standing

[subbtin.725]

Political scientists, "pushing each other", rushed to make predictions

I think that our president made the right conclusions ...

[siberalt]

And who in Europe did not betray Russia? Do not betray - not European!
Let's look from the other side. And which of the European countries has Russia betrayed? This is where the boom is - the boom in the brains of Europeans. Maybe it’s enough to live in a European way, and live your own mind and knowledge, bequeathed to us by our ancestors?

[V.ic]

The tatami is prepared for the meeting. Let the "sultan" not forget to grab a kimono, something anesthetic and foundation with powder to mask possible bruises.

[maxim1987]

Let Peshkov’s mother at the same time invite her to look this sheep’s eyes (and ours at the same time).

[Sashka]

Do not interfere with politics with people's feelings. The mother who raised the Hero herself would have approved this meeting if she had benefited the Motherland. If all these twists and turns will benefit the country, then the death of the Hero of Russia will be even more vain!
And before you claim that the President is betraying someone, become the President yourself. This is politics, and politics is like chess: you can sacrifice the Queen to win the game.
Do not think that you are smarter than GDP.
Good day to all!

[Machete]

Let's be friends with the Turks against everyone, hike ...

[stabskapitan]

I would make an appointment in Yalta or Simferopol, to consolidate, so to speak.

[Temples]

So assign.
What is it up to?

[Mountain shooter]

I think (hope) that in a personal meeting, VVP "kicks off" the Sultan as it should, so that it will not be common in the future. The Sultan has already understood that both the EU and NATO will "surrender" him for a sniff of tobacco, and to quarrel with Russia is more expensive for themselves.

[BARKAS]

We found out that the Gulen organization is one of the largest criminal organizations.
Well, if along with the CIA, then that's right.

[isker]

they will meet, they will not meet, but they did not give a damn about the well ...

[nemec55]

How can you not believe in God, fate or matrix, or something else, the last name Peshkov is a hero for us, from the word pawn - pawn in the global war for peace and the queen for Russia, how chess lost a pawn, God forbid, let's get PEACE.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: nemec55

last name Peshkov is a hero to us, from the word pawn - pawn in the global war for peace

Lt. Col. Peshkov - a soldier in RUSSIA! A hero, not a pawn!
You can not cynically compare people with pawns ... Each person is a unique world! There is no other such and will never be!

There are no uninteresting people in the world
Their fates like planetary stories
Each has its own special
And there are no planets like her ...

[Leto]

Now we will be friends with a murderer, a thief, a sponsor of terrorists and an Islamist Erdogan ... What are the grimmasses of politics ...
Hey, Kiselev! Turn the barrel organ to the other side, otherwise your poems are out of date, he is now a friend!

[stas]

Summer is not a hunchback, but what does friendship have to do with it?
As Putin said, Russia has no friends in Europe, it has only Russia's interests.
If we manage to turn Turkey away from NATO, it will be all the way.

Much will change in the Middle East and Europe.

[g1v2]

Question. Are you tired of looking for bros? Serbs, Montenegrins, Armenians, Bulgarians, Syrians, Assad, Erdogan and so on? It seems that all adults are already. The country has no friends and enemies - there are interests. Strategic pipelines, trade routes, markets for their goods, sources of valuable raw materials. For example, the African country of Tanzania is much more valuable to us than Serbia. Why? Because Russia extracts uranium there practically from the surface, and not from a depth of a kilometer at home. That’s enough for my bros to look constantly. Now we are friends with Assad, and tomorrow, if we choose between him and Erdogan, we will choose the second, today we are fighting with Iran in Syria, and tomorrow we will bomb him.
Turkey is not Erdogan or PSR, but the straits, the market for our products and gas, the possibility of diversifying gas transit to southern Europe, the army - the basis of NATO’s southern flank and one of the largest nuclear weapons storage facilities in the USA and so on. These things are important for the country, and fairy tales about little brothers go through the woods.

[garnik64]

In a word, a disaster. That's what your conversations lead to. But in general it doesn’t matter anyway. Turkey will once again throw Russia. Already suspicions lie on VV Putin ...

[Boa kaa]

Quote: garnik64

The Turk will once again throw Russia.

You might think Russia is an institute on her first date in life with Lieutenant Rzhevsky! And our diplomatic wolves Lavrov and K * are just waiting for their simpletons to circle around a finger ... Completeness, my friend! Not those attacked! This Erdogan crawled to us like a beaten dog, fleeing the fate prepared for him ...

Quote: garnik64

Suspicions already lie on V.V. Putin ....

Why would it suddenly?
Or what, so quickly disbelieved that GDP acts exclusively in the interests of Russia?
Well, you, brother, be firm in your principles, otherwise the liberal "wind of change" can easily carry you to the opposite camp! And you yourself will not notice how you begin to hait the "guarantor" and "the hand that feeds you"!

[garnik64]

Good proverb (Turkish), if you can’t chop off the enemy’s hand, then kiss and put it on your forehead. This is the mentality of a Turk. I do not call for negative relations. It’s just that you don’t have to invest in a potential enemy. About the history of the nuclear power plant in Akkuyu, read or listen from Satanovsky. About the gas hub is suicide. Turkey will dictate prices, do not even hesitate. Don’t forget about Syria. Unfortunately, Russia is not able to preserve the integrity of Syria. (Thanks to Turkey.) You can list a lot. I think you know no worse than me.

You have not wondered why Putin has surrounded himself with oligarchs and holds on to them tightly? Thanks to a dozen billionaires, Putin came to power. Another thing on the "horizon" is no replacement or worthy.

[Boa kaa]

I allow myself to disagree with your judgments

Quote: garnik64

You just don’t have to invest in a potential enemy

Invest - no need. And to tie economically is the aerobatics of diplomacy. Therefore, the States, when they saw that Europe lay under Gazprom, did everything in its power to excommunicate the bad child from the gas nipple.

Quote: garnik64

About the history of the Akkuyu NPP ...

I really respect Yevgeny Yanovich. But Rosatom considered it possible to build a nuclear plant on credit. Why? To conquer the market, supply nuclear fuel assemblies, after-sales service, and so on. I think this is a job for the future. It is better to have a neighbor dependent on you than a militant southern member of NATO.

Quote: garnik64

About the gas hub is suicide. Turkey will dictate prices, do not even hesitate.

After she buys it from us, it will be her gas. Further her business ... And the prices are formed by the market. We will even "influence" them with Nord Stream 2.

Quote: garnik64

Don’t forget about Syria. Unfortunately, Russia cannot maintain the integrity of Syria.

This is Assad's problem. There will be elections, there will be a topic for discussion. Kurds also have the right to their own state.

Quote: garnik64

Why is Putin surrounding himself with oligarchs and holding on to them? Thanks to a dozen billionaires, Putin came to power. Another thing on the "horizon" is no replacement or worthy.

Then what to talk about?

[RuslanNN]

Erdogan is coming back.

[stas]

Another oil painting may appear soon - "Returning home of the raped khokhlushka".

[ando_bor]

I wouldn’t let him go further to Sochi, on the last - Rostov, and it would be better to go to Crimea in general - to troll Ukraine.
“But I am not a slave in the galleys, so that they would have such questions.
It is high and honorable, and somewhere informal.
- Something serious. - Will watch.
It’s just meeting Sochi.

[cheburator]

We will see! Turkey is still one of the key members of NATO! ..

[tehnokrat]

Quote: Temples

We live in an interesting time.

That's right!..
Although everything is logical: Erdogan threw all his allies, and NATO, and the EU, and Obama. You can’t count on the Saudis - they have enough of their problems. Iran is growing stronger at its side, the S-300 is acquiring itself, Assad has not gone anywhere, and indeed the whole Washington coalition has waved its hand to Syria. O Allah! wherever you throw - everywhere a wedge!
So he will have to put up with us somehow ...
But we would not have spoiled our own interests, squeeze more out of it!

[SibRUS]

In the hometown of the Darkest? It reminds arrivals of Yanukovych in 2013. Conclusions on the surface - then and now star-striped ears stick out in the change of power. Will come to ask for advice.

[prior]

Everything is natural.
Both the tankers and the military must sail through the Bosphorus.
Erdogan is no better than Saddam or Gaddafi.
But such a "friend" is better to have in partners than in opponents.

[kepmor]

Comrades forum users! Let's moderate our "warlike" ardor and put aside emotions and remember the most ancient wisdom - "keep your friends away from you, and enemies closer to you."
Russia now has plenty of "enemies-friends" without the Turks.
Butting with everyone - no horns will be enough, however ...

[ghby]

Quote: siberalt

Will be requested in the EAEU. But for this you need to get out of NATO

Maybe right away in the CSTO? although what the hell is not joking.

[mitya24]

Fuck not get up. What is it that turns out? The commander in chief of the 2nd steepest army in NATO immediately after the failed coup rushes to meet with the most important rival of this very NATO. Is this not a harbinger of an approaching split in a gang of gangs?

[Cry]

A thin world is better than a good war. The meeting of the two leaders will attract the attention of the whole planet, since they have been determining the history of Eurasia for several centuries. Will they strain the centuries-old experience of Russian-Turkish relations to create a new world order in Eurasia?

[askort154]

Naturally, humanly, it’s hard to make contact again with the person who once betrayed you.
But the president of the state, holding his personal emotions in a fist, is obliged to think first of all about the interests of the state. What is forced to do and GDP.

[win]

But the president of the state, holding his personal emotions in a fist, is obliged to think first of all about the interests of the state. What is forced to do and GDP.

You're heavy, Cap of Monomakh!

[xant]

In politics, there are no categories of betrayed or not betrayed. The policy is done only taking into account what is profitable and what is not i.e. as they say it corresponds to national interests or not. And what about the Sultan? there was an opportunity to pull Turkey out of NATO (and this is the closure of bases on the territory of both the straits and Syria) or at least sow distrust among them so that they did not particularly count on Turkey and much more in their plans. So is it beneficial to Russia? It is very beneficial, then what is the conversation about. You need to strongly support this desire of Erdogan to end the conspirators. you can even open some kind of center to coordinate actions like in Iraq; in general, there are a lot of opportunities.

[ML-334]

It seems to me that the main topic will be "Turkish Stream" - to reason with the Europeans and cut off Ukraine, this is beneficial for us, first of all, for the Turks.

[garnik64]

And Turks are better than Ukrainians. Then there will be no chance to return Ukraine to its sphere of influence. The percentage that the Turks promised would be offered to Ukraine, and there is no need to build an oil pipeline. I think Turkey will blackmail Russia even tighter than Ukraine. Everything is going as it should shtatovtsam. Americans have sufficient influence on the Turks.

Russia, or rather Putin, is driving the country into a trap. If Russia turns its back on STRATEGIC allies, then the allies will have to look for other alliances.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: garnik64

Russia, or rather Putin drives the country into a trap.

My dearest! Why do you think so? Ali grandmother whispered in the full moon after a fly agaric?
In more difficult circumstances, Putin managed to pull the camp out of the seven-bankers, raise the Army from the defeat of perestroika, feed it, give the people work ... restore the country's military power.
And here you are with your groundless suspicions ... well, just like in that movie: - "And the compote !?" (from)

[garnik64]

When I talk about Putin, I mean his environment.
But did you want the chaos in Russia to continue? If Yeltsin had not resigned in time, the people would have risen. Something had to be done. Maybe Putin was chosen? No, he was imprisoned. I want to believe in him, but .... His advantages, the Army (and even then.), Chechnya (in doubt), Crimea, Syria (in doubt).