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NI modeled a sea battle between the “titans” of the Russian and American fleets

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An expert of The National Interest magazine Kyle Mizokami modeled “the largest naval battle since World War II between the Russian heavy nuclear-powered missile cruiser Kirov (now Admiral Ushakov) and the American battleship Iowa (USS Iowa, BB-61) ".


NI modeled a sea battle between the “titans” of the Russian and American fleets


"The heavy cruiser Kirov is armed with twenty-winged P-700 anti-ship missiles of the Granit complex and equipped with a multi-layer anti-missile defense system. Weapon "Iowa" - three missile turrets and 16 anti-ship harpoon missiles. In addition, the advantage of the American battleship is heavy armor to protect the ship, crew and arsenal of weapons ", - leads the article RIA News.

According to the scenario, "the crews of both ships know the location of the enemy at a distance of about 500 km." The author notes that "at this distance, the main advantage of Iowa is leveled - its Tomahawka long-range missiles, against Kirov, are useless in this case."

“The cruiser launches all twenty Granites on target and begins to retreat, since it has already spent the entire stock of offensive weapons, with the exception of a pair of 130 millimeter cannons that are dangerous for the enemy in melee, but it would be for” Kirov is “too risky,” the expert writes.

Further, it is assumed that 2 Russian rockets fell into the sea, but Iowa is no better: “in order to shoot down the Granites, the battleship has only two Phalanx CIWS anti-aircraft artillery complexes, an EW SLQ-32 system and a dipole shooting system reflectors and create infrared interference Mark 36 SRBOC. "

“It’s impossible to predict how many missiles will pass through these missile defense systems,” the expert notes. But within the framework of the scenario, goals reached nine “Granites”.

“Suppose that one of the two main turrets is rendered harmless, but one more remains, and the engines are not damaged. Three 406-millimeter cannons are enough to destroy the Kirov, but even under the most favorable circumstances, the Iowa is only half a knot faster than the Russian cruiser, so it will be impossible to catch up with it from a distance of about 500 kilometers, ”the article says.

The battleship's chances are unlikely to increase when approaching the Russian ship: “Iowa needs to get close to Kirov a minimum of 107 kilometers in order to launch 16 of Harpoon anti-ship missiles, however, so few projectiles will have a hard time getting to the target through a three-layer missile defense system” .

According to the expert, "the only distance at which Iowa will destroy Kirov is 32 kilometers, but it is unlikely that the crew of the cruiser will let the enemy so close."
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  1. Putinets
    Putinets 25 July 2016 09: 32
    +110
    “There is nothing surprising in the foulness of Americans. What will come of them over time is hard to imagine. America is where the Antichrist comes from. There is Europe naked, naked, unbridled and fat. Wolf Republic. Something like primitive Rome ... Some kind of rotten-born rabble, centuries-old vomit of Europe ...
    One of the stupid absurdities of our policy is our “friendship” with America ... Our fleet should be designed for a war with America ... Now, events and American appetites that have played out should open their eyes to everyone. Even with America we will have to reckon, mark my word. Vile Europe for Russian people, but America is the scum of Europe. The connivance of the American takeover is vile to the Russian people ...
    These phrases belong to a world-famous scientist, poet and critic Boris Vladimirovich Nikolsky and were written back in 1898

    More relevant than ever
    1. Bdeshh
      Bdeshh 25 July 2016 09: 48
      +32
      The battleship "Iowa" has long been withdrawn from the US Navy, the author of the article is not engaged in business.
      1. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 25 July 2016 09: 54
        +41
        Quote: Bdeshh
        The battleship "Iowa" has long been withdrawn from the US Navy, the author of the article is not engaged in business.

        since Kirov has also been in a sump since 91, the name of Ushakov has long been with the destroyer. They would have compared armadillos since the beginning of the 20th century
        1. Temples
          Temples 25 July 2016 10: 11
          +63
          The expert is bored.
          It is necessary to get hooked on "Tanks".
          Will "fight" and then write articles! laughing
          Life will get better, meaning will appear ... wassat
          1. potroshenko
            potroshenko 25 July 2016 12: 13
            +3
            "The crews of both ships know the enemy's location at a distance of about 500 km." The author notes that "at such a distance, the main advantage of the Iowa is leveled - its long-range Tomahawk missiles, against the Kirov they are useless in this case"

            Even iksperd did not explain why he so wanted.
        2. Now we are free
          Now we are free 25 July 2016 10: 19
          +40
          Expert of The National Interest magazine Kyle Mizokami ...
          Oh, and I love Japanese anime! .. My wife and I watched all of Hayao Miyazaki's cartoons (honestly, by the way), and were sad that after "The Wind Rises" Master Miyazaki stopped filming his masterpieces. But it was not there! It turns out that Kyle Mizokami is shooting masterpieces (in any case, a hypothetical scenario for a future hit I just read in the article) worthy of Miyazaki himself ...

          PS
          Announcement from the film company- "The National Interest"
          In the second series, the recharged Kirov will cram the Aircraft Carrier Ronald Reagan laughing laughing laughing

          P.P.S. Give Bl! Trickwell !!! In the third episode, the Zumvolt will be taken away from Kirov! .. laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing
          1. Altona
            Altona 25 July 2016 10: 51
            +7
            Quote: Now we are free
            Announcement from the film company- "The National Interest"
            In the second series, the recharged Kirov will cram the Aircraft Carrier Ronald Reagan

            --------------------------
            As a scenario of a computer game, Battle on the Sea or War ship will roll. Only it was necessary to give the developers, not here. laughing
            1. shuhartred
              shuhartred 25 July 2016 11: 23
              +17
              Quote: Altona
              As a scenario of a computer game, Battle on the Sea or War ship will roll.

              Or World of WarShip. And in the end, when both of them have 10xp each, the "Aurora" will fit and sink both wassat
          2. arane
            arane 25 July 2016 13: 35
            +8
            Quote: Now we are free
            Expert of The National Interest magazine Kyle Mizokami ...
            Oh, and I love Japanese anime! .. My wife and I watched all of Hayao Miyazaki's cartoons (honestly, by the way), and were sad that after "The Wind Rises" Master Miyazaki stopped filming his masterpieces. But it was not there! It turns out that Kyle Mizokami is shooting masterpieces (in any case, a hypothetical scenario for a future hit I just read in the article) worthy of Miyazaki himself ...

            PS
            Announcement from the film company- "The National Interest"
            In the second series, the recharged Kirov will cram the Aircraft Carrier Ronald Reagan laughing laughing laughing

            P.P.S. Give Bl! Trickwell !!! In the third episode, the Zumvolt will be taken away from Kirov! .. laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing


            No, it's still not our movie ......
            Therefore, at the end, Officer Raibek, a cook with a zumvolt, will drown the Kirov with a knife!
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        4. Lord_Bran
          Lord_Bran 25 July 2016 11: 59
          +1
          Revive zombies from the world of the Navy)
        5. g1v2
          g1v2 25 July 2016 17: 52
          +8
          It’s hard to come up with more idiocy - to compare the heavy missile cruiser of the late 20th century with the battleship of the Second World War. Why then NOT compare any ticonderogen with Aurora? BOTH THE CRUISER. request
          1. Two handed
            Two handed 26 July 2016 05: 10
            +2
            They are of the same era, after the appearance of Soviet missile cruisers, the Americans returned the battleships of this series to the system, completely refitted and equipped them with modern missiles. They total date back to about the same era and were written off at about the same time, although Ushakov stood for a very long time in the sump while they decided to dispose of it. Iowa turned into museums.
      2. sgazeev
        sgazeev 25 July 2016 10: 13
        +7
        Quote: Bdeshh
        The battleship "Iowa" has long been withdrawn from the US Navy, the author of the article is not engaged in business.

        The Yankee itch does not go away. Even if this battleship is decommissioned, they are "confident" of their superiority, putting Kirov a lower rank. Self-confidence, show-off will ultimately lead to the death of the Yankees. recourse
        1. Alex777
          Alex777 25 July 2016 12: 27
          +6
          The Yankees itch does not go away. Even if this battleship is decommissioned, they are "confident" in their superiority, putting the Kirov a lower rank. Self-confidence, show-off will ultimately lead to the death of the Yankees. recourse

          "... within the scenario, nine Granites will reach the target."
          After this, there will be nothing to talk about.
          This is enough for the aircraft carrier with a margin. Armor won't help a battleship.
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 25 July 2016 13: 06
            +6
            Quote: Alex777
            "... within the scenario, nine Granites will reach the target."
            After this, there will be nothing to talk about.
            This is enough for the aircraft carrier with a margin. Armor won't help a battleship.

            Even if 9 Granites get into a modern cruiser, there’s not much left of him ... and expertD still says that after the hit, Iowa will try to catch up with Kirov. By the way, Iowa missile defense is unlikely to destroy such a number of Granites, given that in the final section our the rocket flies at a speed near the surface of the water to Mach 1,5. I don’t think that the Phalanges will have time to react in such a way as to destroy 20 of them in a volley of 9 Granites ...
      3. Ze Kot
        Ze Kot 25 July 2016 22: 08
        +4
        Quote: Bdeshh
        The battleship "Iowa" has long been withdrawn from the US Navy, the author of the article is not engaged in business.



        It is strange that the author did not foresee her ramming ...
    2. Kostyar
      Kostyar 25 July 2016 09: 55
      +7
      NI modeled a sea battle between the “titans” of the Russian and American fleets

      There is nothing for the cat to do, he licks the eggs ....., modulators are figs !!!
      1. gray smeet
        gray smeet 25 July 2016 10: 02
        +17
        Quote: Bone


        There is nothing for the cat to do, he licks the eggs ....., modulators are figs !!!
        1. sandrmur76
          sandrmur76 25 July 2016 10: 25
          +6
          To Iowa, Kirov to spend the entire ammunition laughing Bullshit. Still, a mine-layer was entered into the script. Terminator against a predator I still understand BUT a missile cruiser against a trumpeter laughing Stupidity !!!
    3. vkl.47
      vkl.47 25 July 2016 10: 24
      +8
      Two Russian rockets fell into the sea ..... after this nonsense I stopped reading. Just game
      1. Kimimilk
        Kimimilk 25 July 2016 10: 35
        -11%
        Again the site breeds sofa geniuses so that someone thread yes blurted out a secret info

        Comrade, be careful this site belongs to am)))))))))))))) 0
      2. shuhartred
        shuhartred 25 July 2016 11: 25
        +2
        Quote: vkl.47
        Two Russian rockets fell into the sea ..... after this nonsense I stopped reading. Just game

        Yes, if only so! Nine "Granites" you never know? The Hood was sunk by one hit (a damn good one, though).
    4. demchuk.ig
      demchuk.ig 26 July 2016 17: 06
      +1
      Quote: Putin
      . Even with America we have to reckon, mark my word. Vile Europe for a Russian person, but America is the scum of Europe. The connivance of the American conquests is disgusting to the Russian people ... "
      These phrases belong to a world-famous scientist, poet and critic Boris Vladimirovich Nikolsky and were written back in 1898

      The whole story goes in a spiral and events repeat at some periodicity. I hope that we break this spiral!
    5. Igor Olegovich
      Igor Olegovich 26 July 2016 21: 50
      +1
      And what you wanted, mainly criminals, losers and a small part of enthusiastic adventurers who hoped for luck emigrated to America.
  2. maxim1987
    maxim1987 25 July 2016 09: 33
    +4
    I don’t understand something. request
    1. BARKAS
      BARKAS 25 July 2016 09: 36
      +7
      A gamer is somehow carried away and modeled!
      1. avt
        avt 25 July 2016 09: 51
        +9
        Quote: BARKAS
        A gamer is somehow carried away and modeled!

        No. I didn’t model it, but really fought for both sides on the World of Warsaw and shared the experience of battles. In general, it’s even a shame for the site request , well, why should articles of comic book level "Funny Pictures" be published on the site. negative Now look for some Mitrofanushka-gamer, so that he would share his experience with you - he painted about stealth technologies in comparison with 22800, Steregushego "with sailing" Goto Predestination ", or" Ingermanland "Petrovsky.
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 25 July 2016 10: 43
          +3
          Quote: avt
          I didn’t model it, but really fought for both sides on the World of Warsaw and shared the experience of battles

          It is rather not WoWS, but Dangerous Waters.
          I saw videos on YouTube with simulations of fights like "Tika" against "Kirov" or Tika vs Glory. smile
          1. Rurikovich
            Rurikovich 25 July 2016 17: 50
            +3
            Quote: Alexey RA
            It is rather not WoWS, but Dangerous Waters.
            I saw videos on YouTube with simulated battles like "Tik" against "Kirov" or "Tik" against "Glory".

            Now it’s clear where American analysts get their inspiration fellow laughing
            But miserable, probably, really believe in their own nonsense ... what request winked
    2. sub307
      sub307 25 July 2016 10: 06
      +2
      It is obvious that the "author of the study" has nothing more (or "something like that") to do. The question remains, why "serve" THIS HERE?
  3. 13 warrior
    13 warrior 25 July 2016 09: 34
    +3
    Putin, what does your monologue have to do with the content of the article?
    1. potroshenko
      potroshenko 25 July 2016 12: 04
      +2
      Quote: 13 warrior
      Putin, what does your monologue have to do with the content of the article?

      Look how many pluses I gathered for the first comment about the Antichrists of the Americans laughing and all the same, that flood and offtopic
  4. Hunt
    Hunt 25 July 2016 09: 35
    +4
    Is THAT what simulation-based analysis is? And what is the variable "assumed"? Are they there really fucking mathematicians?
  5. weksha50
    weksha50 25 July 2016 09: 35
    +3
    Wacky toys ...

    Now it is not 17-18-19, and not even the 20th century ... And "Iowa" and "Kirov" ("Admiral Ushakov") are not medieval knights ... No one will converge in a direct and sole battle .. ...
  6. berezin1987
    berezin1987 25 July 2016 09: 36
    +11
    The battle will end with the hit of a p-700 granite rocket with a nuclear power of 500 ct. An explosion of granite at a distance of 2-3 km is unlikely to sink the battleship instantly, but it will be destroyed without a guarantee.
    1. i80186
      i80186 25 July 2016 10: 42
      +19
      Quote: berezin1987
      The battle will end with the hit of a p-700 granite rocket with a nuclear power of 500 ct. An explosion of granite at a distance of 2-3 km is unlikely to sink the battleship instantly, but it will be destroyed without a guarantee.


      (Admiral) - I give an introductory: atomic bomb explosion on a forecastle! Lieutenant, your actions?
      “I evaporate, Comrade Admiral.” laughing
  7. 13 warrior
    13 warrior 25 July 2016 09: 37
    +4
    My impression of the article is negative. Compare ships, as well as compare tanks, simulating a one-on-one battle - a thankless and utopian thing.
  8. berezin1987
    berezin1987 25 July 2016 09: 46
    +4
    Battleships were good in the pre-nuclear era. With missiles like the Chinese DF-15B, no armor will save the ship from a close nuclear explosion. But this does not eliminate the need to have a reservation on the ship to protect against light anti-ship missiles and medium-caliber shells. Armor thickness 300-450 mm is a thing of the past forever.
    1. Rurikovich
      Rurikovich 25 July 2016 17: 52
      +3
      Quote: berezin1987
      Battleships were good in the pre-nuclear era. With missiles like the Chinese DF-15B, no armor will save the ship from a close nuclear explosion. But this does not eliminate the need to have a reservation on the ship to protect against light anti-ship missiles and medium-caliber shells. Armor thickness 300-450 mm is a thing of the past forever.

      You tell our "armored guru" O. Kaptsov lol
  9. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 25 July 2016 09: 51
    +6
    The author had to write that at the sight of a mattress rag on the flagpole, the Kirov's crew would instantly surrender! fool
  10. Krsk
    Krsk 25 July 2016 09: 51
    +5
    again "oracles" gush with forecasts ... goals will reach 9 granites ... and then common sense went into the astral plane, the first thought of the Iowa scraps would be: should we not rush in pursuit? rave
  11. Kudrevkn
    Kudrevkn 25 July 2016 09: 52
    +5
    "Storytellers"! I directly remembered the program "Radio Nanny" from childhood: as Karabas Barabas said, playing the trumpet: "Is this just a holiday of some sort?" This is truly a "feast" for the eyes - even our "analytical accountant" Sivkov cannot afford such nonsense !? However, this "imported" author - expert should revise or re-read the film - the novel "Pearl Harbor": are there such "Iowas" belly upside down after being hit by Japanese air bombs of much lower power than "Granites" were "popping up"? Yes, make fun, make people laugh, "Brother Grimm"?
  12. RomanS
    RomanS 25 July 2016 09: 54
    +2
    Another tranche of information waste. As a child, boys compare weapons, aircraft and equipment. In the game, this "analytics" matters.
  13. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 25 July 2016 09: 54
    +5
    What a crazy idea, to knock together ships from DIFFERENT Epochs in battle? We already know that our "Granites" are dangerous for any ship. Well, for such a purpose as a battleship, you can spend special ammunition, so no armor will save you.
    1. Two handed
      Two handed 26 July 2016 05: 04
      +1
      For some reason, after the appearance of Soviet missile cruisers, the Americans returned the Iowa to service, completely refitted it and armed it with modern missiles. They all belong to approximately the same era, the difference may be that Iowa has an ancient heavily armored platform, but I don't see a minus in this.
  14. iskander491
    iskander491 25 July 2016 09: 55
    +4
    Spam damn !!!!
    It is unclear how many of our missiles will get on board Iowa. Neither is all for sure. The interception of our missiles is possible unequivocally but not all. On YouTube there is a film about anti-ship missiles, and so the interception of our missiles by the Americans has a failure there, let's say on the fifth, ninth, fifteenth. In short, their battleship is guaranteed to capture at least 3 of our anti-ship missiles. What will happen to him after that is not clear. It’s not just to catch up, it’s just going to the bottom. Their battleship from a past life for artillery combat, and ours in order to drown their rarities without bothering.
    1. berezin1987
      berezin1987 25 July 2016 10: 22
      +3
      Kirov is a missile battleship. The interception of granite when flying at low altitude is a difficult task. True, this decreases the flight range of the rocket, but still it significantly exceeds the firing range of 416 mm Iowa guns.
      1. Leto
        Leto 25 July 2016 11: 04
        +1
        Quote: berezin1987
        but still it significantly exceeds the firing range of 416 mm Iowa guns.

        In addition to artillery, Iowa had 32 anti-ship missiles Tomahawk with a launch range of 500 km. 32 Tomahawk vs 20 Granites, you can relax ...
        1. berezin1987
          berezin1987 25 July 2016 12: 06
          +4
          Tomahawk shit. Subsonic speed, anti-missile maneuvers are not made, there is no exchange of information with missiles in the flock. Granite creates its double on the radar by reflecting radio waves from water, has a speed of 2,6M and warhead 1000 kg or 500 ct.
  15. Drzog
    Drzog 25 July 2016 09: 57
    +4
    URGENTLY increase funding for the US Navy !!!
    1. Thomas 1989
      Thomas 1989 25 July 2016 11: 48
      +1
      Quote: DrZOG
      URGENTLY increase funding for the US Navy !!!

      the article is written for that.
  16. Watchdog
    Watchdog 25 July 2016 09: 58
    +3
    Nonsense. Like the near-sandbox programs on famous channels - who will defeat a ninja with shurikens or a legionnaire with a shield and a gladius? A Spartan with Mahaira, or a Sun Tzu warrior with a dadao? A fun for brainless dullie with a cormorant of beer and chips in front of a blue screen. Who gave this guy a column in NI ??? what
  17. Verdun
    Verdun 25 July 2016 10: 00
    +5
    An expert of The National Interest magazine Kyle Mizokami modeled “the largest naval battle since World War II between the Russian heavy nuclear-powered missile cruiser Kirov (now Admiral Ushakov) and the American battleship Iowa (USS Iowa, BB-61) ".
    Do not die with laughter! I even know why this simulation was done. There is such a computer game - Harpoon Commander. In fact, a good tactical simulator. But even in this simulator, neither Kirov nor Iowa swim alone. Modern naval combat is a confrontation of various types of weapons. Ships, missiles, aircraft, air defense systems. By the way, it is weak air defense that will not allow obsolete Iowa to approach Kirov at a distance of artillery fire. Although it will sink longer than smaller, less tonnage and armored modern ships. At the same time, it is completely incomprehensible why Iowa was chosen as a symbol of the power of the US Navy. After all, the XNUMXst century is in the yard. It was possible, if not Zamvolt, then at least Virginia to take as an example. In general, laughter, and only that. The next time, apparently, you will have to read an article on computer simulation of a battle between gnomes and orcs ...
  18. triglav
    triglav 25 July 2016 10: 02
    +4
    And that the author did not compare the F-35 with the Po-2?
    1. Simpsonian
      Simpsonian 25 July 2016 10: 09
      +5
      something surrenders the comparison will not be in favor of the first - both stealth, and in general "now all missiles decide" ... laughing
      1. shuhartred
        shuhartred 25 July 2016 11: 38
        +4
        Quote: Simpsonian
        Something seems like a comparison will not be in favor of the first - both of them are stealth,

        Only Po-2 abruptly stealth. Radio waves just fly through it, there’s nothing to be reflected from.
    2. shuhartred
      shuhartred 25 July 2016 11: 35
      +2
      Quote: triglav
      And that the author did not compare the F-35 with the Po-2?

      The answer is obvious !!! The F-35 has no chance, the Po-2 will destroy it with a grenade right at the airport. In Korea, the Americans were no less afraid of these airplanes than the Germans.
  19. nivander
    nivander 25 July 2016 10: 02
    +3
    now, if they put Harpoon on the "Monitor", and on the "Merrimack" Granite axis, then it would be more fun
  20. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 25 July 2016 10: 04
    +2
    20 Granites ... even if the goal reaches 10 - it is guaranteed to send the Iowa to the bottom.
  21. PROXOR
    PROXOR 25 July 2016 10: 05
    +7
    9 granites went on board Iowa and she will swim? !!! I beg of you. There, from the Iowa side, even with a reservation of rags, they will remain !!!! 550 kg of explosive !!! Yes, there all the bulkheads will be damaged even by a couple of explosions of such missiles!

    And it’s completely incomprehensible to me to compare the battleship of the times of the Second World War and the modern cruiser.
    1. berezin1987
      berezin1987 25 July 2016 10: 24
      +2
      There 500 CT thermonuclear warhead. Enough of a close explosion of one rocket and the battleship will turn into a molten pile of scrap metal. No armor will save.
      1. PROXOR
        PROXOR 25 July 2016 11: 37
        +2
        Quote: berezin1987
        There 500 CT thermonuclear warhead. Enough of a close explosion of one rocket and the battleship will turn into a molten pile of scrap metal. No armor will save.

        This is a tactical charge. And the project 1144 did not carry the full ammunition of Granites with nuclear warheads. We proceed from the conditions of an ordinary warhead. And there the numbers vary from 510 to 750 kg. I took a little less than half the weight.
    2. Leto
      Leto 25 July 2016 10: 48
      -2
      Quote: PROXOR
      There, from the Iowa side, even with the reservation of rags they will remain !!!! 550 kg of explosive !!!

      Are there less torpedoes? Remind me how many torpedoes it took for Musashi to sink? And this is not in the armored belt, but below the waterline. So at the expense of rags you went too far.
      1. PROXOR
        PROXOR 25 July 2016 11: 35
        +1
        Quote: Leto
        Are there less torpedoes? Remind me how many torpedoes it took for Musashi to sink? And this is not in the armored belt, but below the waterline. So at the expense of rags you went too far.

        And now we open the physics textbook section "Inertia". And we look. Let's remember what the approach part of the torda and the head of the P-700 Granite is.
        Well ik ak the last nail in your theory. Do not compare Musashi with Iowa. Musashi was much more powerful and thoughtful.
      2. shuhartred
        shuhartred 25 July 2016 11: 42
        +2
        Quote: Leto
        Are there less torpedoes? Remind me how many torpedoes it took for Musashi to sink?

        So it is necessary to compare in TNT equivalent. 500 kg dynamite and 500kg. is hexogen the same thing?
  22. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 25 July 2016 10: 06
    +5
    They, in the National Interest, definitely have nothing to do. Periodically issue any nonsense.

    Compare two decommissioned ships. Soon they will begin to compare not created weapons - such as the Death Star against Black Holes. laughing
    1. x.andvlad
      x.andvlad 25 July 2016 10: 38
      +5
      The author of this fantasy is an American. Why be surprised? They are like small children who are sick with computer shooters. True, one must bear in mind that such "kids" sometimes "go off the rails", and sometimes with consequences, and they need to be treated.
      1. Gormenghast
        Gormenghast 25 July 2016 11: 05
        0
        Yeah, that's right. We recall the "Sea Battle", where the museum battleship wets the technological aliens. laughing
  23. RUSIVAN
    RUSIVAN 25 July 2016 10: 17
    +2
    NI modeled a sea battle between the “titans” of the Russian and American fleets
    Well, it's just AWESOME modeling, really only "SPECIALS" for modeling, it looks more like a fifth grader's essay ...
  24. AlexTires
    AlexTires 25 July 2016 10: 26
    +2
    Did Mizoyaki decide to play the World of Warships on the magazine page? belay
  25. MATROSKIN-53
    MATROSKIN-53 25 July 2016 10: 29
    +2
    They fought cool on paper, but in reality they crap ...
  26. imugn
    imugn 25 July 2016 10: 30
    +2
    And why did the author allow two rockets to fall into the water? Do we have such a large percentage of marriage?
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 25 July 2016 14: 39
      +2
      Quote: imugn
      And why did the author allow two rockets to fall into the water? Do we have such a large percentage of marriage?

      No, it’s the mattress experts ’so much idiocy. fool
      It is surprising that only two Granites "dropped" into the water, and not the entire volley.
  27. Arkan
    Arkan 25 July 2016 10: 31
    +3
    What does this "expert" smoke?
  28. Tatar-in
    Tatar-in 25 July 2016 10: 42
    +3
    You guys don’t understand anything, an article / report will soon be released how the Russian barbarians ruined the mastodon of the American state “Iowa”, you don’t need to let them go to the Olympics.
  29. vanavatny
    vanavatny 25 July 2016 10: 44
    +11
    I was also always interested in identities of whom: Godzila or Kin Kong-aglitsky scientists still will not give birth in any way with an answer with scientific justification fool
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 25 July 2016 15: 19
      +1
      Vanyavatny, finally, welcome! hi
  30. Yarik
    Yarik 25 July 2016 10: 46
    +7
    A funny little article. I quit my job, doing the analysis of Iowa against Tsarevich. From a distance of 500 km. recourse
  31. gorez.69
    gorez.69 25 July 2016 10: 47
    0
    Bullshit. For whom is it written?
  32. Verdun
    Verdun 25 July 2016 10: 52
    +4
    The battleship's chances will hardly increase when approaching a Russian ship: “Iowa needs to approach Kirov at least 107 kilometers in order to launch 16 Harpoon anti-ship missiles
    NI is openly cunning. On the battleships of the Iowa class, as a result of the latest modernization, launchers for the Tomahawk CD were installed. If the scribblers from NI were too lazy to look into serious sources, they could at least watch the first "Capture" with Seagal. True, this does not make the old battleships a superweapon. A weak set of radars does not allow them to detect targets at long range. So, most likely, Iowa will find out that Kirov is somewhere nearby only when his missiles hit her side.
    1. Leto
      Leto 25 July 2016 11: 06
      +3
      Quote: Verdun
      A weak set of radars does not allow them to detect targets at long range.

      Like in Kirov, the radar could see Iowa at 500km.? They are both blind outside the horizon.
      1. Verdun
        Verdun 25 July 2016 11: 35
        +3
        Quote: Leto
        They are both blind outside the horizon.

        The radar equipment of the Kirov-class cruisers, even in the early versions, was superior to that of the Iowa battleships after modernization. At the same time, the speed of Granite anti-ship missiles in the worst case is twice as high as that of Tomahawks and Harpoons, so if the ships detect each other at the same time and at the same distance, Iowa will arrive earlier anyway. At the same time, the Americans themselves perfectly understood the vulnerability of the modernized battleships and used them only as part of squadrons and only for carrying out punitive operations in third countries.
        1. Leto
          Leto 25 July 2016 12: 57
          +1
          Quote: Verdun
          The radar equipment of the Kirov-class cruisers, even in the early versions, was superior to that of the Iowa battleships after modernization.

          What does it matter? The radio horizon equally affects the detection range of surface targets, whether it is a new radar or an older one.
          1. Verdun
            Verdun 26 July 2016 00: 31
            0
            Quote: Leto
            What does it matter?

            In addition to range, the radar has many other characteristics.
            The main tactical characteristics of ship radar are:

            maximum and minimum detection ranges of objects;

            range resolution;

            Angle Resolution

            accuracy in determining ranges and directions.
            To this are added: ensuring the detection of targets in case of active interference, the number of simultaneously tracked targets, the rate of data updating, the suppression coefficient ... This is so, as an educational program.
  33. sgr291158
    sgr291158 25 July 2016 10: 52
    +1
    Yes, even if you are modeling, there is nothing for the Americans to catch.
  34. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 25 July 2016 10: 56
    +2
    These pokatushki always amused in a spherical vacuum.
  35. Leto
    Leto 25 July 2016 10: 59
    +8
    Iowa's weapons are three missile turrets and 16 Harpoon anti-ship missiles.

    What are "three rocket turrets"?
    The battleship's chances will hardly increase when approaching a Russian ship: “Iowa needs to approach Kirov at least 107 kilometers in order to launch 16 Harpoon anti-ship missiles

    The illiteracy and utter ignorance of the NI journalists (or bloggers) is simply limitless. AS! LIKE Karl! could we forget about the BGM-109 Tomahawk anti-ship missiles of which there were 61 missiles on the USS Iowa BB-32? 32 anti-ship missiles with a range of 500 km! After all, "Iowa" is not sawn for scrap, but stands in the form of a museum and at the stern Mk.143 launchers are very clearly visible.
    Horror ... and such spread on VO ...

  36. Sodom897
    Sodom897 25 July 2016 10: 59
    0
    This makes no sense
  37. exo
    exo 25 July 2016 11: 08
    +1
    Bullshit, not an article
  38. Fei_Wong
    Fei_Wong 25 July 2016 11: 12
    +1
    Quote: Leto
    The illiteracy and utter ignorance of the NI journalists (or bloggers) is simply limitless. AS! LIKE Karl! could we forget about the BGM-109 Tomahawk anti-ship missiles of which there were 61 missiles on the USS Iowa BB-32? 32 anti-ship missiles with a range of 500 km! After all, "Iowa" is not sawn for scrap, but stands in the form of a museum and at the stern Mk.143 launchers are very clearly visible.
    Horror ... and such spread on VO ...

    You are not indignant about business. Nobody forgot about the "Tomahawks". You'd better read the article more closely:
    According to the scenario, "the crews of both ships know the location of the enemy at a distance of about 500 km." The author notes that "at this distance, the main advantage of Iowa is leveled - its Tomahawka long-range missiles, against Kirov, are useless in this case."
  39. ghby
    ghby 25 July 2016 11: 18
    +1
    Quote: gorez.69
    Bullshit. For whom is it written?

    for gray gelding?
  40. iliya87
    iliya87 25 July 2016 11: 29
    0
    I never believed in modeling.
  41. Const
    Const 25 July 2016 11: 52
    +1
    It was a battle from "Warld of Warships", and the expert, the journalist's nephew, was on the way. laughing
  42. berezin1987
    berezin1987 25 July 2016 12: 09
    +2
    Vulcan-Falanx is not very suitable for hitting the P-700 Granit missile "head-on". Granite has an armor plate on the nose that can withstand a burst of 20mm rounds or two hits from a Sidewinder missile. There were no SM-2/6 missiles on Iowa.
  43. iouris
    iouris 25 July 2016 12: 12
    +1
    Again a duel. Goliath kills David.
  44. Burmistr
    Burmistr 25 July 2016 12: 42
    +1
    I would say something like:

    "author kill yourself against the wall"

    but I will not
    still a respected portal !!!
    1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
      Andrei from Chelyabinsk 25 July 2016 22: 54
      +2
      Quote: Burmeister
      I would say something like:

      "author kill yourself against the wall"

      but I will not

      And rightly so. You are a cultured person, and express your thoughts culturally. For example, like this:
      "You, oh ridiculous creature,
      What fills the world with terrible evil
      Save yourself! On the wall of the universe
      Kill yourself with an abominable brow ... "
  45. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 25 July 2016 13: 26
    +1
    Something I misunderstood:
    “It’s impossible to predict how many missiles will pass through these missile defense systems,” the expert notes. But within the framework of the scenario, goals reached nine “Granites”.

    “Suppose that one of the two main turrets is neutralized, but one remains, and the engines are not damaged.
    (Granite is 9X300kg)
    Someone else going to swim somewhere?
  46. faiver
    faiver 25 July 2016 14: 32
    +1
    As I understand it, here soon and jokes will begin to post? after reading all this nonsense laughed to tears wassat
  47. Taoist
    Taoist 25 July 2016 15: 06
    +3
    Even if we admit this "spherical horse in a vacuum", then after hitting 9 granites Iowa will not pursue Kirov, but will lead a feverish struggle for survivability ... wassat
    1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
      Andrei from Chelyabinsk 25 July 2016 15: 26
      +3
      If we simulate, it will turn out like this - we’ll write off 2 missiles for technical reasons, two more rejected by electronic warfare, the remaining 16 - on board, after which the best (but extremely doubtful) option for Iowa is the remains of the hull that were burnt by the citadel in tow
  48. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 25 July 2016 15: 17
    +1
    Somewhere they even wrote about how many "granites" are needed to neutralize the Aircraft Carrier as part of the AUG. After 9 hits and the aircraft carrier will not function.
  49. gameover_65
    gameover_65 25 July 2016 16: 22
    +2
    in 98, in the game Harpoon Classic 97, he modeled the battle of Iowa with Peter the Great.
    approached the distance of launching harpoons. Iowa ball volley, air defense worked, hits zero. maneuvering, I’m not shooting myself. second volley, air defense worked, hits zero. I wait further. third volley. I also give a volley of 6 missiles. mine has already arrived, the iowa is burning and gathering water, and his harpoons just flew up, the air defense worked. an hour later, Iowa drowned.

    another time I tried to beat with gun mounts. the harpoons defused the air defense and I went for rapprochement.
    from 18 miles as I flew in, I barely took my feet and somehow got to the port.
  50. Avega
    Avega 25 July 2016 16: 33
    0
    Quote: Bdeshh
    The battleship "Iowa" has long been withdrawn from the US Navy, the author of the article is not engaged in business.

    What is this article? for whom is it written? in my opinion water .... no specifics ...