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Pure american look

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I wanted to look at our Ukrainian and Belarusian friends from another (unexpected), namely the American point of view. I agree, "unexpected", and yet. They are very, very, very dreaming about the “turn to the West”? So, why not. To try, so to speak, to cast a glance at these peoples and states from the American position, the benefit of the foundations of American culture is not a secret to anyone.

The essence of American culture and psychology is possible, for example, express in a short, tough and well-known phrase to all of us: “If you are so clever, then why are you so poor?” This slogan is very popular in the USA and is found even in poor eateries with a small American flag. Indeed, if you are so smart, then why?

The thing is: I met an infinite number of infinitely intelligent discourses from both Belarusians and Ukrainians. About how the galaxy and the world economy, how to live and how to live is not necessary. All this is cool, guys, just great. Only one key remains, American question. If you're so smart ... then why? Ukraine and Belarus are very, very poor countries. This is a fact, a medical fact. You can not argue. And their economy is weak and backward. And the folk almost laid out "teeth on the shelf."

So, from the point of view of the "scoop" - this is trouble, from the point of view of the American - this a shame. Such things, gentlemen, no matter how “smart” you are, it matters how much money you have. "How much does it cost?" - this is also very American question. Being poor is shameful. Poor means loser, loser. A creature worthy of contempt and blame. The social and legal status of a person in the United States directly depends on the amount of money in his bank account. it not Soviet propaganda is the essence of free America.

American Protestant God loves successful. If you are successful in business, then this means that God loves you. America is a truly great country, for money there you can buy literally everything, even the love of God (and each The one hundred dollar bill you earned is a small step into the heavenly forest). All this is beautiful and even sublime, only why you such beggars? How can you, with your empty pockets, claim a pragmatic Protestant paradise based on a strong financial position?

No matter who your parents are (in theory), no matter what your skin color (in theory), it is important how much money you have (this is practice). That's what's important in their culture. How much money do you guys have? That's just this question and matters. In the US, the degree of respect for a person depends on his financial well-being, Americans defy it and never made a secret of it.

What the hell are “democratic values”? Saudi princes are theirs in the USA, even after 11 September. Cause? You will see the reason by looking at the amount of their bank accounts (you not show, of course). This is the "Big Money International" comrades. But youwhere is it? Until the second Maidan, Ukrainian businessmen and politicians have repeatedly stated that billions of dollars from Russia is a simple loot ... And they share the values ​​exclusively of the West. So, gentlemen, you do not understand a damn thing. Simple loot - this is main and main american value The essence of the American dream is to make a lot of money. Freedom? And this is so that no one bothers to make a lot of money, by the way, where can I see the “difficult loot”?

No matter what you earn, it is important how. This is the first, last and main American value. So who are you after with your empty pockets? You not meet the standards of the "American Dream". You are losers. From the American point of view. But they are not friendly with losers, they do not invite losers, they try to stay away from losers. With whom, for example, does Mr. Kerry meet more often: with Putin or with Poroshenko? And why? And because Putin is associated by the world community with money and power. And Mr. Poroshenko with a mess, poverty and civil war. And decent people try not to appear in his society. In order not to compromise yourself. Did not notice? In vain. What do successful people do in their free time? Sports. What do losers do at the same time? That's it, Peter. That's what it is ... You do not match the image of a "successful American."

No, officially everybody scolds bad Putin and supports a good Ukraine, but you should look at official meetings, and you will be amazed ... They just “are friends” with those who benefit. And this is not Poroshenko and not Lukashenko, and not even Grybauskaite. It's a shame of course, but such is life. Alas and ah. Putin is one of the most influential people in the world, so they are trying to get a shot. And with Poroshenko no one in Europe wants to meet. For the same reasons.

Although it seems to be "democratic values." But. I know what you say: it's not you who is to blame, but the wrong one. история, corrupt rulers, hard "hand of Moscow" and so on and so forth ... You are just a "victim of circumstances", aren't you? So, here we have the second "unexpected": from the American point of view, each person is responsible for himself, there are no "external circumstances".

Everyone for himself and everyone solves their own and only their own problems. And if you have a lot of unsolved problems and little money, then only you are to blame. None excuses are not accepted here (you can buy them in bulk and with a big discount!), stop whining and go to work. The problems of Belarus are to blame only and exclusively Belarusians. Ukraine’s problems are to blame only and exclusively Ukrainians. Just an American view of things: no more, no less. No Orthodoxy or Bolshevism, everything is hard and concrete, as in Chicago. Something is wrong? Are you unhappy about something?

You, probably, waited that they would give you “to cry on the waistcoat” and give you a few pennies for pocket expenses? Seriously? But it just there is a "scoop" and Orthodoxy in one bottle. You need urgently forget about it: never complain about anything and do not beg for anything from anyone, otherwise you will be despised. In the Free World it is not customary to help the weak, it is customary to trample them into the mud. And deeper. This is called competition if you didn't know. That is, in the Free World, in order to be respected, it is not enough to make a lot of money, you need to drown someone, someone who is weak ...

Therefore, in no case can you demonstrate your weakness and your problems. You will not be spared and you will not be helped. In American culture, this is not accepted. Why do you think everyone there is literally smiling widely? From the kindness of soul and good mood? No matter how wrong! In order not to suspect you a loser and not trampled! That's all and screaming in the mouth (mowed under the winners) ... So stop crying for poverty and start smiling and telling how everything is great.

And yes, that many Ukrainians are unhappy with the Crimean situation / situation in the Donbas and express bewilderment in this regard. Guys, now I will explain everything from a purely American point of view, and you will understand that you were completely wrong. And this not joke and not draw Absolutely serious. Just remember: is the figure in 150 of the billions of dollars that Russia has plunged into Ukraine? No, do you remember? And, you want to say that you should not remember about this money? Are you seriously?

In vain you are so, oh, in vain ... Try to “put down” the Americans on the 150 “Lard”, and then say that it was. Soon you will have a “romantic meeting” with a mop handle. No, gentlemen, we just do not disperse. Alas, such money is not so easy to part with. So Putin’s actions are investment protection. Neither more nor less. Orthodoxy ... Kiev domes ... Do not carry a blizzard, by God shame. You took the money, and just so we will not part. Pure business, no Bolshevism.

Someone shouts that Putin is pulling Ukraine and Belarus into a scoop. Gentlemen - it's funny, you're all mixed up! Putin pulls you into a “bright capitalist tomorrow”, where the “smart loan” you have taken out of you will then be taken out even with internal organs ... After all, you really wanted this ?! So enjoy! What's wrong? The same America that you have dreamed of for so long has come to visit you!

I even know what you will say in response: it was all before and it was all wrong, but now. Now we will live in a new way (Life in a new way! Vote for the block of Petro Poroshenko.) And again you are wrong, and not right again from a purely American point of view: time is money, time with money in your pocket is money in a square, time with money in your pocket and no debt - money in a cube. Ukraine and Belarus became independent a quarter of a century ago without debt and with a very good economy ... And what did you spend this quarter of a century on?

Judging by your "credit history" you already never nothing will not be. You didn’t show yourself properly: they killed the economy, scored debts and, most importantly, inefficiently squandered the most important resource - time. Who will believe in you after that? Anyone, but not adequate American investors.

No propaganda, no “scoop” that you hate so much, a clean analysis of your “financial activity”. And you sincerely believe that after all this, someone will come to you and give you lots and lots of money? No interest, no receipt and no refund? Maybe pink ponies with such funny, glamorous bangs?
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  1. svp67
    svp67 26 July 2016 10: 59
    +78
    Unfortunately, the former countries of the USSR still treat Russia as a "feeding trough", and begin to get very offended when they begin to say that I'm sorry, but friendship is friendship, and the capitalist tobacco is apart.
    1. berezin1987
      berezin1987 26 July 2016 11: 02
      +45
      These are their problems. Let them say thanks that Russia does not like to carry winged democracy like the United States. Although some are very obvious.
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 26 July 2016 11: 22
        +38
        Paradox - they are more willing to give to the rich than to lend to the poor. (Jean Petit Senn)
        1. bulvas
          bulvas 26 July 2016 12: 10
          +16
          The funny thing is - most in the republics need only one thing:

          the opportunity to work freely in the West, what will happen to the country - they are least concerned about it.

          Go wild, especially as the young Europeans trample from the British Isles and grab their heads

        2. Yura
          Yura 26 July 2016 12: 42
          +16
          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          Paradox - they are more willing to give to the rich than to lend to the poor. (Jean Petit Senn)

          Well, maybe not a paradox, the rich will give away, the poor will again ask for a loan.
      2. Akuzenka
        Akuzenka 28 July 2016 09: 50
        +3
        Do not worry, they will many times blame Russia for all their troubles.
    2. Berkut24
      Berkut24 26 July 2016 11: 22
      +86
      They can treat as they want. Pay attention - to their "and we will go to the west" Russia is now calmly saying - well, go ... after a while, the neighbors realize that they are not needed anywhere. And no one gives guarantees to the local kings. Meanwhile, the remaining assets are gradually losing their value, such as the Ukrainian gas transportation system.
      Russia is waiting for the moment when there will be nothing to bargain about. He will simply present bills for payment and state the conditions for their preferential repayment. The trouble is that in none of the CIS countries there is a long-term elite formed. All temporary workers. There are criminal and economic groups, there are family clans, but there are no elites with firm rules of the game. Actually, there is no one to talk to Ukraine either. Therefore, the situation matures on its own.
      With dad, the story is similar. Orchestra Man. No matter what he is building out of himself, but the leash is short, and his "elite" is simply recruited from officials based solely on the principles of obedience. But if something happens, no one will hold on to "Kolya", everyone will start their own game. And Belarus, too, will gradually reach its "condition". It is important for Russia not to pedal processes in these countries, but to observe a certain "technological cycle of baking" characteristic of each country separately, regulating the state of affairs, where with money, where with military bases, where with restrictions on trade, etc. And in this regard, I do not think that Russia had a failure in Ukraine. There is simply a ripening time for the situation and this process does not need to be pressured. Everything has its time.
      1. You Vlad
        You Vlad 26 July 2016 12: 49
        +2
        Deeply! But Chernomyrdin disagrees with Ukraine, there everything was possible, we had to work with the population just like the Americans and there would be no blood.
        1. sgazeev
          sgazeev 26 July 2016 15: 34
          +1
          Quote: you Vlad
          Deeply! But Chernomyrdin disagrees with Ukraine, there everything was possible, we had to work with the population just like the Americans and there would be no blood.

          Chernomordin was watching over the pipe, he was on the side of the state. If you put a priest on him, even put him in a different position, there’s no sense anyway! All this is so straightforward and perpendicular that it’s unpleasant for me. lol
          1. You Vlad
            You Vlad 26 July 2016 16: 33
            +1
            Do you understand what you wrote?
            1. Monarchist
              Monarchist 26 July 2016 21: 05
              0
              Nafig understand: the main thing is to stick out, but how it turns out perpendicular or spiral is not important
          2. You Vlad
            You Vlad 26 July 2016 16: 52
            +2
            I am amazed by adults and behave like children! Read what I wrote and look at the flag next to the nickname! And as for the Ukrainians, they learned our positions from us like that, in a straightforward and perpendicular way! The president and I were lucky and that’s not your merit joke on people! We are specially pitted and people not far away have no understanding of what can be written and what is not necessary!
            1. BARKHAN
              BARKHAN 27 July 2016 20: 17
              +9
              Quote: You Vlad
              The president and I were lucky and there is no merit in yours to joke on people!

              Well yes laughing lucky ... And so the whole story. That with Rurik, then with Ivan the Terrible, then with Potemkin and Catherine the Great, then with Stalin ... now here with Putin. Or maybe the Russians, unlike their neighbors, are just the imperial people? People of achievements and construction. For example, Ukrainians (who used to scream that they feed Russia), as it turned out, the Russians were needed for the economy and the production of weapons ... But without the Russians there is no shit, even on beautiful land and climate.
              And now the time has come for protoucrams to constantly remind -Ukraine tse Europe! Go to ... Europe!
              Fight there with the Arabs for the right to wash the burgher seat ...
              1. Aspid 86
                Aspid 86 28 July 2016 08: 11
                +4
                It’s just that Russia has centuries-old experience in public administration, planning and foreign policy relations, while in the republics this scale has been narrowed to the regional executive committee. There is no national elite.
        2. Orionvit
          Orionvit 26 July 2016 16: 01
          +13
          Only and exclusively Ukrainians are to blame for the problems of Ukraine.
          It is clear that they rode on the Maidan DB. Okay, let's do it differently. What to do for an ordinary hard worker who does not get into politics, does not go into the business of corpses, but just knows how to work. On people who just know how to work well, any state keeps. So what? Factories were shut down, agriculture was destroyed, the economy was in decline, the country was in war and devastation. Who is to blame for this? Locksmith Uncle Grisha? Or maybe the weaver Aunt Glasha? I'm already tired of this nonsense, about the fact that people are to blame for the fact that the country is a mess. I understand that stubborn Ukrainians are still the same creatures, but if a person did not go to the Maidan, realizing all the abomination of this venture, he would be asked what he wants? The Ukrainians are to blame, and the fact that there are almost a quarter of Russians in Ukraine, why should they suffer from someone else's de.bi.i.ism. No one ever asked ordinary people, they can be used, but the opinion of an ordinary person, those in power, do not care deeply. The quality of life in the country depends primarily on the quality of the national "elite", and such concepts as social policy and social security. These conditions will be met, and ordinary people will catch up.
          1. woron333444
            woron333444 27 July 2016 09: 37
            +3
            My neighbors in Dnepropetrovsk have a sister with my husband - Russians, a daughter with a son-in-law - Russians, and grandchildren - Bandera.
            1. Mavrikiy
              Mavrikiy 27 July 2016 16: 47
              0
              Quote: woron333444
              My neighbors in Dnepropetrovsk have a sister with my husband - Russians, a daughter with a son-in-law - Russians, and grandchildren - Bandera.

              Correctly. Mom-folder bore. At school - you are great, Inter - you are great, friends - We will tear everyone. This is already 20 years without the right to correspondence. It is not treated differently. Although to be honest, thanks to Khrushchev, we still don’t know whether it is possible to identify or add in 20 years.
        3. Dart2027
          Dart2027 26 July 2016 23: 10
          +2
          Quote: You Vlad
          We had to work with the population just like the Americans and there would be no blood

          And how do you imagine this? The USA did not have perestroika and seven-bankers.
          1. You Vlad
            You Vlad 27 July 2016 09: 21
            0
            That's what we are all victims of that time!
          2. You Vlad
            You Vlad 27 July 2016 10: 16
            +3
            They didn’t succeed in dividing Russia because Putin got out of the snuffbox! But they did a lot of other things, because so far 90% of our business is not in our jurisdiction in fact it’s not our business and the same parsley with our money! we feed the United States is their interests! What are the interests of the United States now in Ukraine? To poison our peoples to wage war, build a base in Odessa! And they have been systematically moving towards this for 20 years. Whose interests are fulfilled by elites
            Russia and Ukraine? The United States! Why? Because when the USSR was divided there was no one to give the money, privatization was given to them by Western bankers at interest! In fact, they are laying between bankers and assets.
          3. Mikhail3
            Mikhail3 27 July 2016 20: 23
            +2
            Quote: Dart2027
            Quote: You Vlad
            We had to work with the population just like the Americans and there would be no blood

            And how do you imagine this? The USA did not have perestroika and seven-bankers.

            There were. They still have a semi-bankerschina (there are less than seven banks of only the corresponding level), and perestroika ... they call them the War of the North and South. quite similar, only in the role of the USSR they did not have the whole country but only the south.
            True, to work with the population in the American way is to shoot those who stood in the way without fear. At least hundreds, even thousands. Calmly starve those who are not lucky. You can be in the millions. Use those who are needed, and ruthlessly throw them away when need has passed.
            If you have a lot of extra money, you can fill the feeder to the top, and let them eat until they are choked. That is still a recipe for "dealing with the people."
        4. Mavrikiy
          Mavrikiy 27 July 2016 16: 40
          +2
          Quote: you Vlad
          Deeply! But Chernomyrdin disagrees with Ukraine, there everything was possible, we had to work with the population just like the Americans and there would be no blood.

          1. The role of personality in history. This is understandable, but personalities with a capital L, and not the individual. You have these concepts confused.
          2. A person who has lost their money on the Ruin not by the letter H, but by the letter X. Guess once. Khrushchev, right. Far and deep? No, it was yesterday. 50 years for history ... Get to the point. N.S. Having come to power, he immediately began to brand Stalin and naturally put restoration of justice on the conveyor. Naturally, all Bendera who received 20 years were released, not having served even half. Naturally, in the comfortable conditions of the camps, their ranks would have thinned out, the time for brainwashing the young, even decreased by 10 years. And N.S. caressed these victims of arbitrariness, lifting, how not to give?
          3. You generally talk with those who spoke with zapadentsev. In the army, at work, random meetings in Soviet times. And then there will be no illusions that all dill are brothers to us.
          4. Chernomyrdin against Khrushchev, like a plantain against corn, at least on the trail in history.
          1. You Vlad
            You Vlad 27 July 2016 17: 03
            +1
            I know the zapadents are completely alien to us! Khrushchev himself was a Ukrainian, and he caressed his little homeland from the lordly table to a great extent to the detriment of other nations, and we remember Crimea! But the Nazis were chosen as a weapon in another way, they sharpened it and cleaned it for battle! I I didn’t hear the cries of Chernomyrdin, everything was gone here! I sat there like a groundhog, hearing no spirit.
          2. Dmitriy66
            Dmitriy66 28 July 2016 14: 35
            +3
            1988, Uzhgorod, tour package. Guide's voice: do not go one at a time, do not meditate in the city in the evening under any circumstances.
            1986 Estonia, the commandant's office of the alternate airfield "Rutya", two kilometers from it a farm and a library. The conscripts went to get books, a librarian of about 55 wrote to them in the card-ACCUMENT. With a capital letter. And you say ...
        5. Mavrikiy
          Mavrikiy 27 July 2016 16: 56
          0
          Quote: you Vlad
          Deeply! But Chernomyrdin disagrees with Ukraine, there everything was possible, we had to work with the population just like the Americans and there would be no blood.

          "Did you understand what you wrote yourself?"
          Americans did not work with the population. There is a government and the media for this. Question: who will let you go there? No, they’ll take the money, it’s sacred, and then .... Understand, young man, Bendera did not appear 20 years ago, but 70 years ago.
          1. You Vlad
            You Vlad 27 July 2016 17: 56
            +1
            The Americans do not hesitate to say that they spent $ 5 billion on the revolution in Ukraine! Money went to both Nko and to bribe politicians and promote their tame politicians! And of course, to cover events in the right light! I know that this Austro-Hungarian project I was not born yesterday, but was used to further tear myself away from Russia. For myself, I realized that I wrote ashamedly could not restrain myself.
      2. gladcu2
        gladcu2 26 July 2016 16: 02
        +1
        Berkut24

        Under capitalism, there can be no elite in principle. Your point of application of reasoning is not correct.

        The concept of elite has gone down in history with the concept of monarchism. Only monarchies are based on the elite. Under capitalism, competition will kill any elite.

        The author very correctly described the values ​​of America. But at the same time, the author is well versed in economic systems. He is ironic over the Americans, for those who are on the brakes and did not understand.
        1. lablizn
          lablizn 26 July 2016 16: 45
          +4
          Who told you that there are no "elites" under capitalism?
          Open any textbook on macroeconomics. Maybe there is no word "elite" as such, but what is meant by this is written in black and white everywhere.
          1. gladcu2
            gladcu2 26 July 2016 18: 22
            +5
            Lablizin

            You will first understand what you mean by the word elite. Or what the authors of your textbooks mean.

            Under capitalism, there is nothing stable. Elites must be values. Moral or material. But under capitalism, the rich can be poor for several years, and there can be no talk of other values.

            Therefore, the elite is nonsense.
            1. You Vlad
              You Vlad 26 July 2016 23: 09
              +5
              And how can you name those people who are not in the Forbes magazine in the lists of the richest people in the world, their families from generation to generation multiplied their capital, which amounts to trillions of dollars? Of course they have different values ​​but still? And there are hundreds of such families.
              1. gladcu2
                gladcu2 27 July 2016 01: 01
                +4
                You Vlad

                These people from Forbes can be called only or also major scammers.

                Call the elite? Make friends with the logic.

                What did these people make outstanding that could create the basis for the development of society?

                The elite is the foundations, the beginnings of the state, these are people who are on guard of the implementation of laws. So at least it was under the monarchy.

                Well, call Mavrodi an elite so that you feel completely sick.
            2. AllXVahhaB
              AllXVahhaB 27 July 2016 19: 11
              +2
              Quote: gladcu2
              Under capitalism, there is nothing stable. Elites must be values. Moral or material. But under capitalism, the rich can be poor for several years, and there can be no talk of other values.

              The dynasty was founded by John Davison Rockefeller, who, together with his brother William and other partners, created the Standard Oil oil company in 1870. John Rockefeller was the first dollar billionaire in the history of the planet.
              Mayer Amschel Rothschild (1744-1812) founded a bank in Frankfurt. The case was continued by his five sons: Amschel Mayer, Solomon Mayer, Nathan Mayer, Kalman Mayer, James Mayer. The brothers controlled five banks in the largest cities in Europe: Paris, London, Vienna, Naples, Frankfurt. Two branches of the Rothschilds - the English (from Nathan) and the French (from James) - trace their history to our time.
              No stability, no elite)))
        2. tracer
          tracer 27 July 2016 02: 49
          0
          Thank you for the many comments. But, with this conclusion, of cosmic importance and the same stupidity, you dumbfounded me ... I want to ask .. WHAT THE TRUTH ?????
          1. You Vlad
            You Vlad 27 July 2016 10: 32
            0
            But in fact? Can you say something?
        3. MihMikh
          MihMikh 27 July 2016 08: 33
          0
          It depends on what is meant by the word "elite"
        4. You Vlad
          You Vlad 27 July 2016 13: 18
          0
          In fact, you are right. The elite are those who carry and preserve moral and state values.
          1. Timmer
            Timmer 27 July 2016 15: 51
            +3
            Not moral, but certain values. The elite is primarily a matter of power, not carriers of morality. And in terms of educating the elites, the West has outplayed us. The elites have been brought up since childhood. And the statehood of the elite has nothing to do with it. The elite are those who can decide and influence the systemic issues of the civilizational development of society in a separate state or on a global level. And the fact that they should be deeply moral people is an error. The elite is not the most moral, the elite is primarily the strongest, regardless of the assessment of their actions in terms of morality.
        5. Mavrikiy
          Mavrikiy 27 July 2016 17: 12
          +1
          Berkut24
          Do not stir up water. The elite is and will be.
          1. The elite are the clans of the powerful. Dot.
          2. Capitalism has been a thousand years old and power remains in the hands of these clans. (Yes, yes, 1000 years. Banking capital was in ancient Rome).
          3. Monarchism? It is clear that Canada is an island (of course + the USA, send geography to teach), the consequence is the lack of information. I will rejoice: ".... But our Soviet scientists recently proved" that for 1000 years the power and capital have not left their clans.
          4. Why should capitalism kill the elites? Is Khodarkovsky or Berezovsky an elite? You are raving. Money to the elite is not directly related. The elite is power and strangers with money without whether there is no need.
          5. Yes, the author is humorous, but you do not understand what.
        6. BARKHAN
          BARKHAN 27 July 2016 20: 30
          +2
          Quote: gladcu2
          Under capitalism, the elite in principle cannot be

          Let’s dear, I quickly offhand just clans the United States ....
          Rockefellers, Dupons, Vanderbilt, Lauders, Walton, Bushes, Keri, Mannings, Rives, Murdochs,
          Mellons, Fanjuls, Hirsts, Flaglers, Sulzberger, Getty, Wainwright, Kennedy ... etc. All the children are attached ... Now the world is divided. hi
      3. exalibor
        exalibor 26 July 2016 17: 37
        0
        They can treat as they want. Pay attention - to their "and we will go to the west" Russia is now calmly saying - well, go ...
        - oh? does it say so? Do you think the time is scattered by the allies (I mean RB)? because the fact that the mustachioed balabol is not the thoughts of the rest of the people. If desired, Putin could have removed the dad from his place for a long time, but he kept it, so he was needed and is now needed ...
        The trouble is that in none of the CIS countries there is a formed long-term elite
        Are you sure that it is in the Russian Federation? Judging by the withdrawal of capital from Russia by its officials? If the elite is there, then why didn’t the capital that it keeps over the hill go back to the country during the crisis?
        observe a certain "technological cycle of baking" peculiar to each country individually, regulating the state of affairs where with money, where with military bases, where with restrictions on trade
        You yourself answered your question - they consider the Russian Federation a feeding trough ... that’s precisely because it thus regulates the processes necessary for it both in Ukraine and in Belarus
    3. X Y Z
      X Y Z 26 July 2016 11: 30
      +24
      The main thing is not how they relate, but how we react to it. If we continue to feed and give away free, expecting love and gratitude, then all the worst that happened in our relationship will inevitably happen again. It will be like supplying Ukraine with gas. We all will always owe everything. Everyone who receives our help should know that they will have to report for every vitamin, but I don’t even speak about loyalty, this is implied by itself. And every spit or even displeasure against us should be punished by excommunication from the feeder for a long period, until admonition.
      1. gladcu2
        gladcu2 26 July 2016 16: 05
        -1
        X Y Z

        For people like you. I’ll correct you a little.

        GDP does not distribute. GDP has the right policies. Everything that GDP does so far is not subject to condemnation.
        1. gladcu2
          gladcu2 26 July 2016 16: 19
          +4
          Auto RU.

          Great ironic article with a good share of sarcasm.

          You are well versed in economic systems.
    4. Pavel1
      Pavel1 26 July 2016 12: 02
      +2
      Well, why this dump in one heap of ukrov and Belarus? If Ukrainians want to Europe and are rebuilding their standards for it, Belarus’s exports are largely oriented to Russia, and imports are even more tied to Russia.

      International trade
      Exports of $ 21,304 billion (2009) [9]
      Export partners Russia (38,9%), Netherlands (11%), Ukraine (10,2%), United Kingdom (3,9%), Latvia (3,7%), Poland (3,5%) [10 ]
      Import of $ 28,569 billion (2009) [9]
      Import partners Russia (51,8%), Germany (6,8%), Ukraine (5,4%), China (4,8%), Venezuela (3,3%), Poland (3,1%) [10]
      1. You Vlad
        You Vlad 26 July 2016 12: 14
        +6
        So Ukraine was so but ... Old Man began to flirt with the West! And the article is about making people start to think and draw conclusions.
        1. exalibor
          exalibor 26 July 2016 17: 45
          +1
          it’s not so ... we don’t have any Western propaganda, and events in Hohland became possible because such propaganda was conducted at the state level, so this is not the same ...
          1. Monarchist
            Monarchist 26 July 2016 21: 11
            +2
            Lieutenant, you are right: there propaganda fell on "fertilized soil" and Maidan blossomed
      2. Berkut24
        Berkut24 26 July 2016 12: 17
        +6
        Surprisingly, the same situation was with Ukraine, but this did not stop the farm Napoleons. Another thing is that Gunpowder has clearly shown everyone what happens in this case. The main thing is not to get in touch with us as long as possible. For even greater clarity. This territory is still not started to divide the Poles, Hungarians and Romanians.
    5. russkiy redut
      russkiy redut 26 July 2016 21: 07
      -1
      What are you, we must interact with neighbors on certain conditions. To be beneficial to both them and us. We are divided and dominated.
    6. m262
      m262 26 July 2016 21: 29
      +10
      Pancake! Well, why the hell do you identify the Belarusian people and Lukashenko? He’s in insanity, and the whole republic knows about it, knows, but can’t do anything, I see you have removed Medvedev and Chubais from power ... Our cunning man is far from all Belarus!
    7. desyatka
      desyatka 27 July 2016 09: 23
      +1
      as M. Zadornov said - it's all about the money.
  2. demiurg
    demiurg 26 July 2016 11: 01
    +23
    Cynical of course, but very intelligible.
    1. guzik007
      guzik007 26 July 2016 11: 26
      +12
      Comrade very logically outlined the American view of the situation. But ... that is why (including) we are so hated in the world that we look at these things from a different angle. And no one will "strangle" Ukrainians for this gigantic debt (maybe unfortunately). And most likely, in the event of radical changes in relations between our countries, they can forgive, guided by the principle - what will you take from the beggar?
      ..there are so many of them who have gone into this abyss ...
      Called "Forgiven Debts"
      1. gladcu2
        gladcu2 26 July 2016 16: 15
        -1
        button

        You are of course right about the debt account. Forgiving them is somehow wrong, but not forgiving is also not very. Here the only logic justifies. The Russian empire is precisely preserved in relative integrity under conditions of reconciliation and adaptation. Maybe so.
      2. exalibor
        exalibor 26 July 2016 17: 48
        +2
        what debt Is he officially registered somewhere? and you can say anything ... for example, let’s say 3 billion are officially registered, and they’re cowards ... and I think they won’t get off until they
      3. Monarchist
        Monarchist 26 July 2016 21: 18
        +1
        Yes, but forgive in order to get more benefit: make the leash shorter and “tease the bear so that he doesn't feed on fat.” So that Russia cannot get stronger.
    2. 34 region
      34 region 26 July 2016 11: 30
      +9
      Demiurge! 11.01. Sounded like cynical. But everything is right! We even look at the world here in VO and reason from our point of view. The author simply very clearly explained the psychology of the Western world. And we do not coincide with it at all. Therefore, speaking of the West, one must at least have a little understanding of their thoughts. And understanding the course of their thoughts, we must look for counter options. On their logic, if you are so smart why so poor, there was no discussion at the VO (although I may be wrong). Even today, no one has dared to answer this frontal question. so what? Missed a hit or have something to answer?
      1. demiurg
        demiurg 26 July 2016 11: 40
        +5
        I absolutely agree with the author. This used to be given by the state. And now it gives a specific bank, or concern. And he will not forget about this duty. And about 150 billion will not be forgotten especially.
        I really like doctors who tell the truth. When I got into an injury with a hole in my leg, a cynical surgeon said that he didn’t like amputation when I tried to get home. I stayed.
        1. gladcu2
          gladcu2 26 July 2016 16: 24
          +2
          demiurg

          The state does not give money, but distributes resources. As a movement takes place in a large corporation, there, after all, recalculation takes place outside of banking attention.
          In such circumstances, a commercial bank is an extra expense.
      2. matross
        matross 26 July 2016 12: 09
        +3
        The simple answer about the smart poor did not occur to us that in our country, in contrast to the West, people of intellectual labor are often offended by budget financing?
        1. pimen
          pimen 26 July 2016 12: 37
          +1
          Quote: matRoss
          Demiurge! 11.01. Sounded like cynical. But everything is right! We even look at the world here in VO and reason from our point of view. The author simply very clearly explained the psychology of the Western world. And we do not coincide with it at all. Therefore, speaking of the West, one must at least have a little understanding of their thoughts. And understanding the course of their thoughts, we must look for counter options. On their logic, if you are so smart why so poor, there was no discussion at the VO (although I may be wrong). Even today, no one has dared to answer this frontal question. so what? Missed a hit or have something to answer?

          Well, why not use such a resource as physical elimination (hunting !?) is especially cool?
      3. EvgNik
        EvgNik 26 July 2016 12: 31
        +7
        Quote: Region 34
        The author simply very clearly explained the psychology of the Western world.

        Regi, good afternoon. Not just intelligible, just great. I have not received such pleasure from the article for a long time.
      4. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 26 July 2016 12: 56
        +12
        Quote: Region 34
        The author simply very clearly explained the psychology of the Western world. And we do not coincide with it at all. Therefore, speaking of the West, one must at least have a little understanding of their thoughts. And understanding the course of their thoughts, we must look for counter options.
  3. A-Sim
    A-Sim 26 July 2016 11: 04
    +4
    It is logical. Cynically. "Praise."
  4. pavelty
    pavelty 26 July 2016 11: 04
    +8
    The author attached the neighbors, these are all right, but for what?
    1. svp67
      svp67 26 July 2016 11: 11
      +18
      Quote: pavlentiy
      and Belarusians for what?

      You probably still do not know, but in Belarus, the Ukrainian scenario is becoming more popular. it is worth watching their telecasts, where the role of Belarusians in history is magnified, moreover western, and often in the confrontation with Russia. So, for what.
      I have a lot of respect for "syabrov", but sometimes I just don't understand their attempts to repeat the Ukrainian scenario.
      And can anyone explain why the Belarusians in the ukronatsbats are almost the largest number, maybe because Lukashenko openly calls for the destruction of the DPR and LPR?
      1. Eragon
        Eragon 26 July 2016 11: 51
        +14
        Quote: svp67
        You probably still do not know, but in Belarus, the Ukrainian scenario is becoming more popular

        Please examples. I will give an anti-example - the dispersal of the "Maidan" attempt in Minka in 2006, 2010.
        Quote: svp67
        it’s worth watching their telecasts, where the role of Belarusians in history, and the western one, is magnified

        An example of exaltation, imagine. For reference: geographically, Belarus for 650 years was part of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania and the Commonwealth and 200 years of the Russian Empire and the USSR. And yes, in your opinion, the history of Belarus is predominantly Western, here excuse me, but you can’t redo the story.
        Quote: svp67
        And can someone explain why Belarusians in ukronatsbats are almost the largest

        They themselves believed, or who prompted? And what language do they speak in these ukronatsbats, didn’t listen? Oh, in Russian. Ahh, I realized there are ALL Belarusians, not a single Ukrainian or Russian. Hmmm ... True, we all who fight in Ukraine, it does not matter on whose side, if they come across, then they immediately catch 5 for mercenaries. Neutrality.
        Quote: svp67
        Lukashenko openly calls for the destruction of the DNI and LC

        Do not lie. Here is a quote: "The militants who are fighting against the Ukrainians need to be destroyed. But first sort it out, otherwise you will shoot your own." You read this quote, and you simply did not look for the continuation or did not find it necessary. And then there was a question: "Do you support the policy of the Ukrainian state in the East?" Answer: "Do you have it, this policy in the East?" More details: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qD0ripbxHxc
        1. You Vlad
          You Vlad 26 July 2016 12: 05
          +4
          Well, how to believe, huh?)) Any information needs to be double-checked like our (friends) throw words out of context.
          1. svp67
            svp67 26 July 2016 15: 19
            +3
            Quote: You Vlad
            An example of exaltation, imagine. For reference: geographically, Belarus for 650 years was part of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania and the Commonwealth and 200 years of the Russian Empire and the USSR. And yes, in your opinion, the history of Belarus is predominantly Western, here excuse me, but you can’t redo the story.

            That is, in your 850 years before the collapse of the USSR, we have 1991-850, we have 1141. Now we already have the fact of a change in history, you cheat on at least the CENTURY in favor of ON. History, as modernity shows, can be redone, alas.
            As an example of exaltation - the history of the Christian monastery in Polotsk, as a symbol of the ARRIVAL of Christianity in Russia, but nothing that Christianity was already known in Russia at that time, moreover, Kiev Princess Olga was a Christian. Fact, fact, but why so give out?
            Quote: Eragon
            They themselves believed, or who prompted?

            I can tell you one little secret, they consider everyone and keep lists, with great hope that the time will come when they will lay down on the table to issue arrest warrants. Moreover, they are not particularly hiding:


            Azov’s intelligence chief, your compatriot, Sergey Korotkikh. By the way, a good friend of the recently deceased P. Sheremet.

            Killed on the Maidan Mikhail Zhizhevsky
            1. Dr. Sorge
              Dr. Sorge 27 July 2016 09: 30
              +2
              If you still know the secrets, about the citizenship of these ushlopkov, with whom the medal and handed Roshen, were not interested? :)
        2. nemec55
          nemec55 26 July 2016 12: 38
          -1
          No need to fuck. I quote:

          svp67 the campaign sits quietly and vomiting looking at those d, fishing who plus it
        3. woron333444
          woron333444 27 July 2016 09: 46
          +2
          Firstly, in Ukraine, even the government speaks Russian
      2. nemec55
        nemec55 26 July 2016 12: 26
        +3
        Militants who is this ???? And who is Ukrainians ????? I didn’t understand in this video about whom Lukashenko meant. Who is fighting against the Ukrainians ?????? it’s already clear to the ram that these are the current Ukrainian authorities who live in the Donbass. The DPR and LPR are not at war with the inhabitants of Ukraine, and Lukashenko knows for sure.
        You minus for delusional video
    2. Denis DV
      Denis DV 26 July 2016 11: 22
      +3
      For a joint of one platoon in sweat and calluses, this is a classic laughing
      1. Yuri Y.
        Yuri Y. 26 July 2016 12: 09
        +1
        Platoon on anyone in sweat and calluses. Correct remark.
    3. dauria
      dauria 26 July 2016 11: 22
      +8
      , all right, but Belarusians for what?


      Well, between us, girls, the author also "attached" the Russians, not everyone saw them. Tfu you, we have a mortgage and loans "Christian" ... I forgot, litter ... laughing

      By the way, the author is not right, his "losers" (and there are 90% of them in the US) still inspire "high feelings" with justice, duty, protection of the offended. All kinds of Rambs, tough nuts, poor commandos and policemen. There is only one millionaire in the cinema, the one who married a prostitute ("Pretty Woman") laughing No, not these simpletons these Americans ...
      1. You Vlad
        You Vlad 26 July 2016 11: 41
        +1
        It was a question of countries, and we have one of the lowest debt in relation to economic growth in the world!
      2. bardadym
        bardadym 26 July 2016 11: 59
        +6
        Ilf and Petrov. "One-story America".

        Even then, it was directly spoken about how in Hollywood (and other media, of course), an order was being worked out to create a positive image of bankers, lawyers, and other various millionaires.
        And this order has been worked out one hundred percent. Films with the "good rich" American production are not just a lot, but a LOT. Up to children's (remember "Richie Rich").
        Fresh and bright - Tony Stark and Batman, for example. And pay attention - Tony is the only comic book hero who "opened his face". All polls American "fighters for justice" wear masks. Looks like they are afraid of people's love ...
        1. Yuri Y.
          Yuri Y. 26 July 2016 12: 51
          +2
          Quote: dauria
          No, not these simpletons these Americans ...

          C'mon, no one counts them as fools. But shameful. We don't love them, shameful.
        2. BARKHAN
          BARKHAN 27 July 2016 20: 42
          0
          Thanks to the author. Good article. good
          About American capitalism, the Americans themselves are best told. For example, Michael Moore. I recommend those who have not watched his films about the United States.
          [media = [media = https: //www.youtube.com/watch? v = DBHY-TaIJds]]
          1. BARKHAN
            BARKHAN 27 July 2016 20: 45
            0
            Well and the best from Michael
            ]]
    4. weksha50
      weksha50 26 July 2016 12: 47
      +7
      Quote: pavlentiy
      The author attached the neighbors, these are all right, and Belarusians for what?


      Actually, not the Belarusians themselves, as a nation, but Lukashenko and his retinue ...
      Many are mistaken in believing that Lukashenko is a friend of Russia ...
      At this stage - he is simply NOT AN ENEMY yet ...
      But his individual actions suggest that tomorrow or the day after tomorrow he may become a friend of the West, and then the proverb will already work: "tell me who your friend is, and I will tell you who you are" ...
      1. BARKHAN
        BARKHAN 28 July 2016 12: 38
        0
        Quote: weksha50
        Many are mistaken in believing that Lukashenko is a friend of Russia ...
        At this stage - he is simply NOT AN ENEMY yet ...

        He is disgusting to me personally for the attitude towards LDNR and Belarusian volunteers. But it’s the choice of Belarusians and they to live with it ... I respect the choice of others, even if I don’t like it.
  5. Arkan
    Arkan 26 July 2016 11: 11
    +1
    Maybe pink ponies with such funny, glamorous bangs?


    Judging by the behavior, some continue to shave or shave in pink ponies.
  6. dumpy15
    dumpy15 26 July 2016 11: 13
    0
    / Mute on the light of anything greater, less that idiotic Galichina / Yaroslav Hasek
  7. antiexpert
    antiexpert 26 July 2016 11: 14
    +2
    The essence of American culture and psychology can, for example, be expressed in a short, harsh and familiar phrase to all of us: "If you are so smart, why are you so poor?" This slogan is very popular in the USA and is found even in impoverished eateries along with a small American flag. Indeed, if you are so smart, then why? The answer is very simple: modern money owners prefer smart rotting, and the US is on guard of this order.
    BUT everything once comes to an end)))
  8. Leto
    Leto 26 July 2016 11: 20
    -7
    If you are so smart ... then why? Ukraine and Belarus are very, very poor countries. This is a medical fact. There is no arguing. And their economy is weak and backward. And the people practically laid out "teeth on the shelf."

    The author, you are terribly right, stupid Belarusians and Ukrainians do not understand that you need to sell oil, gas, timber, diamonds and then they will be rich as Russians. And since we are rich, we are very smart, because we guessed to sell it all, but they are not .... well, stupid ...
    1. You Vlad
      You Vlad 26 July 2016 11: 49
      +5
      You so at your leisure take an interest in what Russia sells abroad! And you will stop writing librarians!
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    4. dali
      dali 26 July 2016 12: 28
      +7
      Quote: Leto
      The author, you are terribly right, stupid Belarusians and Ukrainians do not understand that you need to sell oil, gas, timber, diamonds and then they will be rich as Russians. And since we are rich, we are very smart, because we guessed to sell it all, but they are not .... well, stupid ...

      There was all sorts of things, but ... "Not everything for the (enlightened Western) cat" is Shrovetide, time is changing, although not as quickly as we would like.

      By the way, there was already a reference to VO that Russia already has 80% of the market for carbon nanotubes (wall thickness of one carbon atom), and soon, having built six more lines, they also want to reduce the cost by almost 35p per gram (200 times, Now 7000r per gram), and then ...

      And this is just one example ...
      Well, okay, the question is not so much about us, although we have a lesson of course. For example, Sweden itself is not so rich in resources even in contrast to Belarus, and with Ukraine, in general, does not make any comparison ...

      And the presence of huge resources and their sale does not guarantee to be rich, to have a lot of money.

      The presence of huge resources rather provokes all kinds of creatures to send you to another world, and to exploit these resources themselves. This is what the "enlightened west" has been doing successfully for centuries. Because it was the robbery of the whole world that first of all made them rich, and only then the ability to use the loot !!!

      How Belarusians are ready-they can rob the whole world, or at least half the world ... well, damn it or neighbors at least ?!

      Ukrainians, in principle, are ready, but they cannot ...
      Belarusians are not ready and cannot ...

      Of course you can live with your own labor, not so richly, but quite acceptable. But then again, you need to be smart. In the meantime, the minds of Ukrainians have almost left, and the Belarusians ... something is a little feverish ...
      1. Leto
        Leto 27 July 2016 07: 54
        -2
        Quote: Dali
        By the way, there was already a reference to VO that Russia already has 80% of the market for carbon nanotubes (wall thickness of one carbon atom), and soon, having built six more lines, they also want to reduce the cost by almost 35p per gram (200 times, Now 7000r per gram), and then ...

        You better give data on the export of the Russian Federation in shares, maybe then enlightenment will come.
        1. dali
          dali 27 July 2016 12: 51
          +1
          Quote: Leto
          You better give data on the export of the Russian Federation in shares, maybe then enlightenment will come.

          Have you provided export data ?! belay
          Just give the data, and maybe your enlightenment will come and preferably in dynamics, for example, from 2000.

          Yes, it’s clear that they sell a lot of resources ... but Ukraine, for example, could almost fill up the whole world with wheat, and so what? And why then ... Ukraine can not? belay

          And again I repeat, the availability of resources is not an indicator - look at Africa ... is there everything there and what ?!

          By the way, cereal is a resource or a product ... and who in the first place about the export of wheat in the world does not know?
    5. Olezhek
      26 July 2016 14: 53
      +3
      The author, you are terribly right, stupid Belarusians and Ukrainians do not understand that you need to sell oil, gas, timber, diamonds, and then they will be rich as Russians.


      Congo is much richer with all sorts of valuable resources (pantry) ... and does Azerbaijan have more oil and SHO per capita?
  9. Selevc
    Selevc 26 July 2016 11: 27
    +11
    And who are the poor? And who are the rich? Yanukovych poor? Medvedchuk, Poroshenko, Klitschko, Tymoshenko, Azarov, Kuchma, Yushchenko, Pinchuk, Kolomoisky and others like them poor?
    It seems to me that the main problem of Ukraine (and Russia, by the way, too) is the redneck generation ... The word redneck in this context is not abuse, but simply expresses an extreme degree of greed. Goons are those who are outwardly modest - at the same time they bathe themselves in gold and their faces are so sad and sad and their eyes are so honest and honest ....
    The difference between Russia and Ukraine is that this generation left the government in the early 00s and came after the 2nd Maidan !!!
    Such people in politics are ready for anything for the sake of money - at least let the economy go to waste, at least trample traditions, at least start a war - that is, such utter thugs ...
    By the way, there is a look at Kiev - it has long overtaken many European capitals by the number of luxury cars ... Are people on Porsche and Mercedes poor? Our millionaires are simply very modest and therefore invisible in the photo of the Maidan gopota ...
    It is not a matter of poverty or wealth - the fact is that the enrichment of some comes at the expense of the impoverishment of others and over time it becomes more noticeable. Naturally, there are much more second ones and they are much more noticeable. And another thing is the lack of laws for the rich. That is, there are laws of the type, but if you are rich, then you can’t comply with them ... This, incidentally, is the fundamental difference between Ukraine and Germany or Britain ...
    What has been happening in Ukraine for the past 25 years is called a feast during the plague - now it just took on extreme forms !!!
    1. dauria
      dauria 26 July 2016 12: 23
      +1
      The difference between Russia and Ukraine is that this generation left the government in the early 00s, and after the 2nd Maidan, it came to us


      There is only one difference - the Russian oligarchs have already gnawed those who are weaker and now only vigilantly guard the feeding trough from strangers and look at strangers. Belarusians too. But in Ukraine they were late with this. Well, a couple of years, a couple of shoots, landings and runs with the stolen over the hill and "people" will become. You will start working and trading - with Russia first of all. You still have to live.
      1. andrew42
        andrew42 27 July 2016 15: 55
        0
        Do not start. The Ukrainian oligarchs will no longer have a feeding trough. Only crumbs for local evil clowns from the table of overseas Jews.
    2. Volzhanin
      Volzhanin 26 July 2016 13: 23
      +6
      Holy naivety! laughing
      In Russia in the years 92-93 there was a Jewish coup. Coup! Committed at powerful support of the West and America in particular! The ingenious historian and scientist A.I. Fursov’s about this coup is all set out lucidly with figures and facts. The material is suitable for perception by almost any audience, except for frank downs and imbitsilov. So welcome to study. Two hours will be enough. And a couple more to verify the facts.

      Oddly enough, on the outskirts of the Russian Empire, a Jewish coup d'etat also occurred huge support of the west and striped gopnik. Does anyone argue with this sane people?

      Ameripedos after coups help gain a foothold in the power of frank scumbags, such as our ebna and crest. Otherwise, they would not have started this mess if the gesheft is doubtful.
      So there is no need to stir up the generations ... Such thugs are spinning in power.
      Some bastards are being taken to power, and so, during coups, scum of society, marginals and scoundrels are piled up in bulk. An example is Russia in the 21st century. How many left after this dirty trick - ebna? And so they settled in the Kremlin and clung like vampires. Until they take them forward with their feet, they will hang there and openly mischief the country for the sake of their pockets.
      1. weksha50
        weksha50 26 July 2016 16: 11
        +1
        Quote: Volzhanin
        In Russia in the years 92-93 there was a Jewish coup. Coup! Deed with the powerful support of the West and America in particular!

        On the outskirts of the Russian Empire, strangely enough, a Jewish coup also took place with the enormous support of the west and striped gopniks. Does anyone argue with this sane people?


        hM ... Just like in Ukraine ... East and West ... Western Jews organized it, and in Russia - Eastern ... Or - vice versa ... laughing hi

        PS The result is different ...
      2. You Vlad
        You Vlad 26 July 2016 18: 56
        +1
        Yes Fursov all out of the shadows who displays the homeland for a jar of jam and a basket of cookies sold am
    3. gladcu2
      gladcu2 26 July 2016 19: 17
      +2
      Selvec

      Well, you wondered why there are poor and rich.

      At the heart of any relationship is MORAL. At the heart of the device of any state is MORAL.

      The Bible is a set of rules, a description of the life and behavior of saints is the source of MORAL.

      MORAL is not a state law. This is just a system of relationship or understanding.

      If someone violates morality, he often gets an advantage. For example, promise and deceive.

      That is why you called your Ukrainian "elite" cattle.

      IN USA. Morality under the motto: "If you are smart, then why not rich." This is to hang the "carrot in front of the donkey". In fact, the United States is a police state. With the world's largest prison population. Because picking up a shotgun, you can easily shoot a neighbor's family overnight, becoming the smartest and richest. In the United States, the smart and wealthy are only those who, with the help of money, can influence state laws, adjusting their gender. All others are food for the first.
      1. andrew42
        andrew42 27 July 2016 15: 50
        +1
        The Bible is easier, colleague. There is SUCH morality that in some places a complete immorality. :) The story of one particular tribe with very ugly deeds. The current "Protestant paradise" (in the words of the author of the article) with money-lovers "pleasing to the Lord" - this "paradise" grew out of the Bible. Not to be confused with the Gospel, - historical notes about the spiritual feat of a particular character.
  10. grandfather Mih
    grandfather Mih 26 July 2016 11: 27
    +4
    The article is smart, intelligible, without distortions.
  11. BARKAS
    BARKAS 26 July 2016 11: 28
    +4
    “If you are so smart, why so poor?”

    Immediately I remembered "If you are civilians so smart, why don't you march in formation?"
  12. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 26 July 2016 11: 29
    +14
    The world, in general, is rich. Even if pruning non-baked derivatives and futures; to pierce the fake bubbles of the value of all Google, etc. - he will still be rich.

    The problem is that this wealth is completely in unknown ways, redistributed, and continues to be redistributed in favor of the exceptional. For this, an appropriate robbery system has been created.

    Everything flows from this. Militarism - because many people intuitively understand that something is wrong here; and many weapons are needed to convince doubters; and even some "voynushki" - to convince completely oversized.
    Russophobia - since to some the wealth of Russia (land, water, forest, etc.) seems unfair. After all, no one doubts that if you calculate the cost of all real wealth (not records on computer monitors, or even cash wagons in bank vaults), it turns out that Russia is richer than all; understand - but do not speak.
    Globalization is such an ennobled occupation with respect to the loyal ones - there is no need to annex anything (if the countries are led by compradors); just let TNCs. And infringe them - no, no; otherwise, the above democrats will appear.
    Multiculturalism - yes, globalists need a dumb consumer standard; In all countries; and what prevents it - patriotism, family, faith, national characteristics and differences - all this must be destroyed.

    I want to believe that sooner or later the realization of this will reach the majority; The UN should not deal with the rights of homosexuals, but with the problem of inequality. It’s not even necessary to requisition anything; you just need to put everyone on an equal footing; and then redistribution, over time, will happen by itself.

    And the situation when robber sets robbed question "why are you so poor"I consider it immoral and blasphemous.
    1. You Vlad
      You Vlad 26 July 2016 11: 59
      +2
      For myself, I associated the Western economy with a vacuum cleaner that sucks out wealth from everyone, but if it doesn’t suck from where it will explode! So the system is built.
    2. Alisher
      Alisher 26 July 2016 15: 54
      +2
      Quote: Gormengast
      when the robber asks the robbed the question "why are you so poor"
      then the real answer: because you are so rich. The wealth of some, as a rule, leads to the poverty of others.
    3. andrew42
      andrew42 27 July 2016 15: 52
      0
      About the question from the robber, to the very point.
  13. Dr. Stein
    Dr. Stein 26 July 2016 11: 32
    +2
    The dog sets out well, everything is the case and as it really is.
  14. Bulrumeb
    Bulrumeb 26 July 2016 11: 33
    +8
    What the hell are “democratic values”? Saudi princes in the US, even after September 11

    We, too, are slowly but surely being rebuilt, there are also many who, as soon as it became possible, put a roshenka by the cheek and into Turkey
  15. berezin1987
    berezin1987 26 July 2016 11: 36
    +1
    The photo in the title immediately revealed the essence of the article. And the film is of course credible.
  16. You Vlad
    You Vlad 26 July 2016 11: 37
    +1
    Yes, the truth is easy and pleasant to read! A big plus for the article! The Dollar is the God of America! And the right of a strong politician!
  17. bardadym
    bardadym 26 July 2016 11: 43
    +2
    Some kind of zonal concepts.
    Is the USA a country of prison laws? It is interestingly combined with "freedom and democracy".
  18. olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 26 July 2016 11: 50
    +9
    The author intelligently explained the situation with American values.
    And he gave good advice to Ukrainians, smile wider to new friends, gentlemen!
    Remove empty pots from your head, fill with borscht plaster casts and place in a prominent place in the kitchen. Of course, there is no borsch, but with an empty stomach and the appearance of well-being, you already correspond to American values.
    The ideals of the Maidan won, it is time to rejoice, about an empty stomach, just forget it is so American.

    PS The term "earned" cuts the ear when it comes to large amounts.
    Such funds are owned, disposed of, but no one ever earns, if you understand that the words "earn" and "work" are the same roots.
    Big capital is always the appropriation of what is earned by others, and the capitalist is the one who comes up with the methods of appropriation, and does not work.
    Fraudsters and thieves also come up with ways to seize and appropriate other people's values.
    The only difference between capitalists and thieves is that capitalists lobby for laws to control the result of the labor of others, and thieves do not write a criminal code.
    Somehow the concepts of "earning" and "being rich" are related.
    1. Yuri Y.
      Yuri Y. 26 July 2016 17: 56
      +1
      You are not quite right. My son organized a pizzeria, work above the roof. Organizing a business is worth a lot. Laughs, they all have with me (workers, suppliers, the state).
      1. olimpiada15
        olimpiada15 26 July 2016 21: 57
        +1
        I will clarify my commentary - this is about large capitals acquired by "back-breaking labor" of seizure, redistribution, etc., as well as exchange manipulations, lobbying laws leading to the robbery of the population.
        Persons organizing and managing enterprises that produce goods, provide services, work, do the right thing. They are not owners of large capital, although these are wealthy people.
        I am not against private enterprises, I am against those who profit by manipulation. The population is forced to contain clusters of parasites that are looking for ways to integrate into the chain of exactions — what this category does is not work.
        Your son created a pizzeria, that's wonderful.
  19. Berber
    Berber 26 July 2016 11: 55
    +4
    To the author +. Briefly, Tightly Lucidly.
  20. nemec55
    nemec55 26 July 2016 12: 07
    -1
    And you sincerely believe that after all this someone will come to you and give a lot, a lot of money? No interest, no receipt and no refund? Maybe pink ponies with such funny, glamorous bangs?

    Stupid, Russia will reimburse everything.
  21. Basil50
    Basil50 26 July 2016 12: 14
    +2
    Bravo AUTHOR! It is intelligible and without lately obligatory reverence towards pride * to brothers ... *. Modern America, with a generous hand, measures dollars to anyone who is willing to sell the interests of their country. And why should they spare the dollars, they will draw, just like Popandopolo, themselves.
    1. Basil50
      Basil50 27 July 2016 22: 59
      0
      I read the comments of Belarusians and made sure once again that the author of the Rights is completely. When infrastructure was built at the expense of RUSSIA for the backward suburbs, everything was fine. When they separated with everything that was rebuilt, and pride in advanced production overwhelmed the proud and aspiring to the independence of the outskirts.
      Today, claims to RUSSIA by such independent and such proud peoples that Russia has not forgotten at the expense of whom the entire infrastructure of these states was rebuilt from scratch.
      And of course, the requirements for supplying strategic resources and of course redeeming everything that was * collected * at an inflated price. At the same time, they try to convince themselves, including, that RUSSIA is obliged to do all this, and if it doesn’t work, then RUSSIANs are to blame for everything, and there are very different justifications for their claims.
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  22. VladimS
    VladimS 26 July 2016 12: 23
    +5
    Quote: guzik007
    And most likely, in the event of dramatic changes in the relations between our countries, they can forgive, guided by the principle, what can you take from a beggar?

    That's bad, you can even say very bad! The USSR and then Russia repaid the loans of the tsarist government, the so-called French club. Finally settled only under V. Putin. Although they themselves were not very densely, at all. Nobody forgave us a penny spent.
    1. weksha50
      weksha50 26 July 2016 16: 14
      +4
      Quote: VladimS
      The USSR and then Russia repaid the loans of the tsarist government, the so-called French club. Finally settled only under V. Putin. Although they themselves were not very densely, at all. Nobody forgave us a penny spent.


      Many have not returned to us ... I will not cite the countries of Africa and Asia as an example ...

      The vaunted Swiss banking system has risen to Russian, tsarist money, which Switzerland has never returned since then ... I don’t remember exactly, but in gold pieces, and at that time - huge ... And Switzerland, as such, in that time was absolutely nothing ... So, a rural ulus ...

      It’s a pity that there is no material or link at hand ...
  23. Mestny
    Mestny 26 July 2016 12: 36
    -1
    Quote: olimpiada15
    Big business is always the appropriation of what is earned by others, and a capitalist is one who comes up with ways of appropriation, and does not work.

    To come up with an effective way of appropriation is the hardest job. It’s not enough to think up, it’s also necessary to realize it so that you would not only have nothing for it, but on the contrary, you would acquire power and an unsinkable platform for generations to come.
    The ability to find comprehensive solutions to the most unexpected problems, the very ability to choose the right goal, and the ways to achieve it - this is the real American mind, which also brings the very money as a result. For which such a question was born - if you are smart, then why poor.
    Well, that is, the mind in the American way cannot be a narrowly targeted phenomenon.
    That is: a person who is able to come up with a solution to a complex mathematical problem, but who is not able to correctly convey this solution to anyone, is not smart. And the poor, in worn sweatpants and in a rented apartment.
    1. olimpiada15
      olimpiada15 26 July 2016 14: 16
      +7
      Mestny
      I can not agree. The result of the work is a product. Those who produce it and those who provide the work process, i.e. not only the machine operator, but also the cook who cooks dinner, otherwise the machine operator will not have the strength to work and the teacher in the kindergarten, the child under supervision, develops while his parents are at work, etc.
      And the capitalist is superfluous in this process. There is none, and thank God it’s easier to live. He has nothing to do with work. He only thinks about how to select the results of the labor of others.
      Enterprises in the USSR grew and developed, because the profit from production remained at the enterprise, there was enough money both for the purchase of raw materials and components and for the construction of new workshops and the repair and modernization of equipment, for the construction of housing, kindergartens, dispensaries and recreation centers, and wages were paid 8 and the 23rd is always on time. While I was growing, the plant became the basic enterprise in the industry, the residential village grew out of comfortable houses, and the barracks built during the war in connection with the transfer of production of military products were broken.
      Then the capitalists came, and the enterprise ceased to exist, not because production was not needed, but because it was so profitable for the capitalist.
      The capitalist has nothing to do with work, he rather resembles a thief or a fraudster: these people also think, and even do something, such as a master key, but no one considers their occupation to be work.
      1. igor.borov775
        igor.borov775 26 July 2016 18: 18
        +2
        You are late. Now they make even more money out of money. And the Product is money. The ingenious system applied by the USA.
        1. olimpiada15
          olimpiada15 26 July 2016 22: 09
          0
          Quote: igor.borov775
          You are late. Now they make even more money out of money. And the Product is money. The ingenious system applied by the USA.

          I do not agree.
          Making money out of money is inherently fraud, not proven, perhaps not provable due to the lack of the necessary laws, but fraud, not work.
          And the US in terms of scams, deception and fraud is indeed the hegemon of the whole planet.
  24. Nelepost
    Nelepost 26 July 2016 12: 38
    +1
    I would very much like to see in the article the phrase in the original "If you are so smart, then why so poor?" Possibly the translation to "poor" is not correct. For some reason, many people identify the poor and the rich with money, although the etymology of words is associated with God and trouble :). It turns out that there is a dispute between the participants who did not even understand the essence of "what is happening". You can be rich and happy without money.
  25. Tusv
    Tusv 26 July 2016 12: 38
    +2
    If you're so smart, why so poor

    Interesting questions. I will set my own
    -I have a Jewish mom. Why am I so Russian?
    - We have Ukrainians in relatives-Why are they losers
  26. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 26 July 2016 12: 42
    +1
    I can advise (just hear?) The leaders of ALL FORMER REPUBLIC AND COUNTRIES OF THE WARSAW CONTRACT - if you want to be independent and wealthy - take the example of GREAT NON-GRAVING and there will be HAPPINESS to you !!!
  27. Wolka
    Wolka 26 July 2016 12: 42
    0
    on the whole, the author’s conclusions are correct, quite adequate, no matter how bitter and insulting they are, they say they didn’t understand me correctly, but in the modern world this is exactly what happens, money rules the world, if you do not believe me, read the second, third and so many articles time to infinity, until you understand, and in general it is better to do than to seem ...
    1. Olezhek
      26 July 2016 13: 06
      +2
      read the article two, three and so many times ad infinitum


      But this is not necessary! Do not Schaub people reached madness ... belay I didn’t want to harm them ...
  28. Alex_59
    Alex_59 26 July 2016 12: 47
    0
    Although this is not a Russian model of behavior, but from her point of view everything is clearly defined. Article plus. Maybe with the exception of this:
    That is, in the Free World, to be respected, it is not enough to earn a lot of money, you have to drown someone while drowning someone weak ...
    It seems to me that it is not necessary to "drown" someone. Drowning is a deliberate negative action, and in the West, competition rules everything, so that unsuccessful competitors drown themselves, they are rarely deliberately drowned directly.
    In fact, it turns out that the Ukrainian Maidan model is vicious from the point of view of all world development ideas. From the point of view of American capitalism, from the point of view of Russian collegiality, from the point of view of Chinese hardworking, etc.
    1. Olezhek
      26 July 2016 12: 59
      +3
      It seems to me that it is not necessary to "drown" someone. Drowning is a deliberate negative action, and in the west, competition rules everything, so unsuccessful competitors


      I never wondered why there are tramps and blacks defiantly shoot out?
      1. Alex_59
        Alex_59 26 July 2016 13: 19
        0
        Quote: Olezhek
        Ever wondered why there are tramps and blacks defiantly shot?

        I don't think they are being shot there DEMONSTRATIVELY. I think that they will shoot the oligarch there, if, instead of sitting straight with his hands on the steering wheel, he jumps out of the car and starts waving these hands. In any case, film and music stars who are far from being in poverty are easily imprisoned there as ordinary proletarians (as opposed to "here").
      2. EvgNik
        EvgNik 26 July 2016 13: 49
        +2
        Quote: Olezhek
        Ever wondered why there are tramps and blacks defiantly shot?

        And now the police started to shoot. Demonstratively. Fun!
    2. Corsair
      Corsair 26 July 2016 13: 33
      +1
      Quote: Alex_59
      It seems to me that it is not necessary to "drown" someone. Drowning is a deliberate negative action, and in the West, competition rules everything, so that unsuccessful competitors drown themselves, they are rarely deliberately drowned directly.

      what If we take it as an axiom - maintaining a constant certain amount of money or other resources, then we get the following:
      1. In order to get in one place a lot of some resource with a constant common component - you need to take this resource somewhere / reduce its quantity.
      2. If we assume that some large amount of the resource has fallen from the first and arrived at the second without any compensation, then we can assume that the first drowned the second.
      When kapstroy constantly redistributes resources from one hand to another, often this is not a commodity circulation, but a direct robbery in a particular shell.
      1. Alex_59
        Alex_59 26 July 2016 14: 29
        +1
        Quote: Corsair
        If we take it as an axiom - maintaining a constant certain amount of money or other resources, then we get the following:

        Okay, let it be "it is necessary to drown the weak." It doesn't matter. smile
  29. bk316
    bk316 26 July 2016 12: 52
    +6
    Article +.
    Another comment about Ukraine and the USA.

    In the American mentality, it is considered correct to never blame others if you have failed. Of course, people are so arranged that not everyone can do it, but such behavior is considered loser.

    But Ukraine seems to have found its national idea: all that is bad is happening, is happening and will happen with Ukraine, the blame is exclusively on those around it, and therefore Ukraine must all.

    Such a combination would inevitably lead and has already led to the contempt of Ukraine. Ukraine in the eyes of the United States is a hopeless loser.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 27 July 2016 00: 19
      +1
      , "what is happening and will continue to happen with Ukraine is exclusively the fault of those around it" /////

      This is true, but this is a problem not only in Ukraine.
      To admit that "the crocodile is not caught and the coconut does not grow" is its own problem,
      but not the intrigues of enemies, international conspiracies, etc. not everyone can.
  30. ava09
    ava09 26 July 2016 13: 12
    -1
    Quote: weksha50
    Many are mistaken in believing that Lukashenko is a friend of Russia ...
    At this stage - he is simply NOT AN ENEMY yet ...

    The comrade thinks in the wrong categories.) One should not consider Lukashenko as a politician, at the same time tearing him out of the context of this very policy. Even in the elementary relations of the Two, these Both affect them to one degree or another. And the position of the Russian Federation is formed by many, from this not everything is decided by the Old Man, as it seems to some ...
  31. ork_333
    ork_333 26 July 2016 13: 40
    0
    Fuck all the "experts" on the life and thoughts of Belarusians, as well as all the singers and cheers-patriots. This is my personal opinion and desire as a resident and citizen of Belarus.
    1. Olezhek
      26 July 2016 14: 35
      +1
      Have you read the title of the article? belay
  32. AID.S
    AID.S 26 July 2016 14: 24
    +1
    I read the article and for some reason I remembered:
    "- An original design," one of them finally said, "the dawn of motorism. You see, Balaganov, what can be done from a simple Singer sewing machine? A small device, and you got a lovely collective farm binder."
    Long, tedious, sometimes (about Putin) either ambiguously or drawn out.
    Similarly, one can reason from the saying "It is better to be rich and healthy than poor and sick"
  33. Mestny
    Mestny 26 July 2016 15: 44
    -1
    Quote: olimpiada15
    I can not agree. The result of the work is a product. Those who produce it and those who provide the work process, i.e. not only the machine operator, but also the cook who cooks dinner, otherwise the machine operator will not have the strength to work and the teacher in the kindergarten, the child under supervision, develops while his parents are at work, etc.

    It is the product. And I say - the ability to choose a goal and successfully achieve it. Money and power are also a goal. Or, if you like, a product, in this case.
    All cooks, machine operators, educators need to find, motivate, organize interaction so that they jointly obtain for the author of all of the above the "product" that he needs, in this case money - isn't this task more difficult than a task, for example, just a cook, even if talented?
  34. v.yegorov
    v.yegorov 26 July 2016 18: 05
    -1
    You probably expected that they would give you a “cry in a vest” and give out a few pennies for pocket expenses? Seriously? But this is precisely the “scoop” and Orthodoxy in one bottle. You urgently need to forget about it: never complain about anything and do not beg for anything from anyone, otherwise they will despise you. In the Free World it is not customary to help the weak, they are usually trampled into the mud. And deeper. This is called competition if you did not know.

    It is only in the Russian world - sympathy and empathy, but you deleted yourself from it. And the American world - how are you? and went fucking and no one
    not interested, really like you.
  35. Krsk
    Krsk 26 July 2016 19: 49
    +2
    paraphrasing their proverb, the question arose: if you are so rich why are you so stupid ah?
  36. kombat729
    kombat729 26 July 2016 20: 41
    +1
    The article, although correct, is cynical. the author should write to the Russians. But one thing can be said about the Russians, that they have not been waiting for freebies for a long time from anyone, including their state, and they are expecting more and more rip-off from their state.
  37. japs
    japs 26 July 2016 23: 00
    +6
    The author drew the American dream. But why is Belarus here? The mustachioed uncle who is not a thug in the economy should not be compared with ordinary citizens. Nothing depends on them. Thieving officials who profit from kickbacks are fattening in Belarus. Industry is expressed in the construction of new shopping centers - "Euroept", "Krona", etc. Why, why ...
    I get the impression that the main production force of the Republic of Belarus is officials. So fuck them.
  38. Dr. Sorge
    Dr. Sorge 27 July 2016 09: 27
    +3
    Soros probably ordered this article :)
    For the sake of objectivity - are few young people from Russia eager for a European?
    This is a global problem in our countries. The problem of cultural decline.
    1. Olezhek
      27 July 2016 21: 57
      +2
      For the sake of objectivity - are few young people from Russia eager for a European?


      It’s not enough, since all the places of plumbers and dishwashers are, unfortunately, already occupied by East Europeans.
  39. hound
    hound 27 July 2016 09: 43
    0
    The author overeating on%. If you want to know the opinion of Belarusians, drive through Belarus and have a drink with random people every hundred kilometers. Lukashenko is one thing, and the people is another. And if someone wants to think that there are only enemies around you, then he is just a shame and Russian shame.
    1. Olezhek
      27 July 2016 21: 51
      -1
      If the author begins to plump random 100 km with random people, then he will not be able to write articles.
  40. vit357
    vit357 27 July 2016 18: 46
    -2
    Aftyr))) you got hurt in at least two things:
    1) you wrote down all the Belarusians as enemies of Russia, and not just the pro-Mongolian marginal minority, whose opinion the people of Belarus have nothing to do, but don’t think that I’ll be like brothers like you, I don’t need such friends for money.
    2) Geopolitics, the boy is worth the money, put up with it, since you and I are not brothers.
  41. nezvaniy_gost
    nezvaniy_gost 27 July 2016 20: 20
    -2
    In Russia, doher oil, gas, forests and other resources.
    Oil to Asia, gas to Europe, round timber, also over the hill. Raw materials are shorter.
    Even with a reduction in revenues from this sale of bare raw materials, all the same, 50% of revenues to the treasury is precisely due to oil and gas.
    Well, Belarus does not have so much oil in the earth, but there are only skilled hands. Due to this, they live.

    And the availability of natural resources is not a sign of the mind. Just lucky. Like the Bedouins in Arabia. They were preparing to eat on a camel, but oil was suddenly pouring in. As their experience shows, pumping oil and selling it as raw material does not require much intelligence. Also cut the forest and push the round timber. This is akin to gathering that practiced homosapenses at the dawn of mankind. But the Bedouins have at least cheap gas))) Why can't you overtake your oil in gas?

    In comparison, look at Blagoveshchensk and that Chinese city on the opposite bank, which has risen due to Russian raw materials (mainly timber). This is the same China, where 30 years ago they worked for "a cup of rice a day"
    And the question is: who is smart here? The average salary in China and Russia is already equal.
    1. slimp
      slimp 28 July 2016 10: 02
      0
      A lot of people gave their lives for this ...
      What is still a mess now - say thank you dashing 90m, when we were dragged through the analogue of the Hohlyatsky Maidan
  42. Laane7
    Laane7 27 July 2016 20: 54
    0
    Tough, maybe too, but fair ...
  43. lexa333
    lexa333 28 July 2016 07: 12
    -1
    Well said
  44. MAD_SERGANT
    MAD_SERGANT 28 July 2016 09: 34
    +1
    I agree on all points. I myself live in "great, invincible and independent" Estonia, which has torn all that is possible from the legacy of the USSR, and now I am surprised
    1. vit357
      vit357 28 July 2016 21: 31
      0
      but I just apologize))) who is surprised? The people or those who did this?
  45. slimp
    slimp 28 July 2016 09: 55
    0
    Principle "If you are so smart, why so poor?" not American, but Jewish. And it existed thousands of years before the discovery of America. Although I will not argue, they adopted (or moved to a new continent) they fully.
  46. prosto_rgb
    prosto_rgb 28 July 2016 10: 50
    +1
    Great article !!!
    Everything about the case !!!
    Some people need to read it 3 times a day, or even more.
    And then everything is waiting for gas and oil for free.
    How old is he in practice explaining that $ and nothing personal.
    He doesn’t believe everything, either about the trenches, or about the hennarot.
    1. vit357
      vit357 28 July 2016 13: 06
      -1
      Count on, one artificially divided people, and if not in the subject - go seek happiness in Europe.
      1. prosto_rgb
        prosto_rgb 28 July 2016 16: 23
        -1
        you have 2 errors in the sentence
        first artificially created, but not created
        secondly, I myself know where to go and in what topics
        1. vit357
          vit357 28 July 2016 21: 24
          -1
          teach a story to your son, you don’t like it - with a tablecloth the road to the geyropu, where the cunning and wise pro-ballet has already left))) you’re bnfovsky.