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Turkish Foreign Minister: Russia provided the greatest assistance to Turkey

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Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlüt авavuşoавlu, commenting on the situation in the country after the attempted military coup, said that "the greatest support to Turkey from among foreign states was provided by Russia." This is reported by the Turkish News Agency. Anadolu. At the same time, Cavusoglu declined to comment on what exactly Russian support consisted of.


Turkish Foreign Minister: Russia provided the greatest assistance to Turkey


Recall that the other day the Iranian news agency FARSNews published a material stating that the Russian military intercepted the coded information of those who were preparing a coup d'état in Turkey. This information was transmitted to the Turkish authorities, and Erdogan managed to escape from the hotel in the resort of Marmaris.

Against this background, Cavusoglu criticized the actions of the Turkish special services, which, according to him, "having fragmentary information about a possible attempt at insurrection, should have been done so that the president knew about it."

A spokesman for the President of Turkey, Ibrahim Kalyn, said that at this stage, work is underway to "identify gaps in the intelligence system." According to Kalin, this should make Turkey "even stronger." It should be recalled that in Turkey, after a coup attempt, the presidential guard was dissolved.

The head of the Turkish Foreign Ministry, Cavusoglu, said that he hoped that 8 would be issued to the Turkish military, who are now in Greece. Now their fate is being considered by a Greek court.

The presidential decree 15 July in Turkey declared the "Day of democracy and the memory of the Martyrs."
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  1. oleg-gr
    oleg-gr 24 July 2016 12: 13
    +10
    The support was recognized. Will the "sultan" be able to understand the impossibility of creating a new Ottoman Empire? That is the question. All actions are aimed at strengthening the regime of personal power. Then a new coup attempt or color revolution will be inevitable.
    1. NIKNN
      NIKNN 24 July 2016 12: 23
      +17
      Big politics damn, it’s possible to explain everything, but anyway, the brain drives us into a dead end
      1. Karasik
        Karasik 24 July 2016 13: 23
        +26
        Quote: NIKNN
        Big politics damn, it’s possible to explain everything, but anyway, the brain drives us into a dead end

        Indeed, it seems everything can be explained. Russia does not need a bloody massacre in Turkey, and the fact that it would have happened is beyond doubt. All the same, let's be objective - Erdogan has serious support from the people. Many in Turkey like his neo-Ottoman views. Maybe we do not need this carnage yet (as it does not sound cynical). But for sure - they saved Erdogan, not counting on his favor, and even greater strengthening of Russian-Turkish relations, but putting political expediency at the forefront. We may not know all aspects - but time will tell.
        And in Ukraine, they generally hide such information. How is it, they were friends with Turkey against Russia - and here is such Zrada! "Bloody dictator" Putin rescues our dumb sidekick, Erdogash. Brain rupture - toli zrada, toli peremog ?!
        1. Kars
          Kars 24 July 2016 13: 34
          +12
          I think the sincerity of gratitude to Erdogan and Turkey could be appreciated if he recognized Crimea for the Russian Federation. And he seems to want to get off with the pilots who shot down the Su-24.
          1. Koshak
            Koshak 24 July 2016 14: 47
            +9
            Quote: Kars
            I think the sincerity of gratitude to Erdogan and Turkey could be appreciated if he recognized Crimea for the Russian Federation. And he seems to want to get off with the pilots who shot down the Su-24.

            You want everything at once. This does not happen in politics. There, the principle "the chicken pecks by the grain - as a result - the whole yard is in shit."
            1. Himalayan
              Himalayan 24 July 2016 15: 33
              +5
              Yes. All alone, I personally have such a conclusion - everything is in the hands of the supreme power of Russia. Little depends on us in such a contradictory information field. It just doesn’t work out. And I would like to have an integrated system of outlook on what is happening.
              1. Nyrobsky
                Nyrobsky 24 July 2016 19: 05
                +9
                Quote: Himalayan
                Yes. All alone, I personally have such a conclusion - everything is in the hands of the supreme power of Russia. Little depends on us in such a contradictory information field. It just doesn’t work out. And I would like to have an integrated system of outlook on what is happening.

                The whole picture is unlikely)))
                In short, the mattresses were very unhappy with the fact that Erdogan "stalled" on the Syrian issue in terms of participation in the ground operation against Assad due to the appearance of Russia there. Having arranged a provocation with our plane, the mattresses hoped that a hot phase of relations between Russia and 80 million Turkey would begin, right up to military operations. That will make it possible to block the Bosphorus and the Dardanelles for the Russian Navy, and at the same time launch the clause of the NATO collective security treaty and actually start a war with Russia by the forces of the bloc, in the hope that the Russian Federation will not pull the war on two fronts by dropping Syria. But it did not work out - they hit tomatoes and tourism, which, as we can see, was quite enough to start Erdogan's movement towards Russia, which finally unbalanced the United States and prompted the beginning of the use of force to remove Erdogan through a coup. If this succeeded, then a puppet fully controlled by mattresses would be seated on the Turkish throne, which would revive the scenario of involving the Russian Federation in the war. But as we can see, it did not grow together here either, due to the intervention of Russia.
                Perhaps this was the reason for this form of revenge, as the removal of the Russian Olympic team and a series of provocations in neighboring regions. Small, disgusting but quite American-style. It seems that soon the mattresses will try to recoup on a large scale.
                I won’t be surprised if something smells loud in Rio and Russia is traditionally accused of this with the sauce that it was revenge for excommunication of the national team from the competition. Well, in general, we can expect the resumption of frozen conflicts and the emergence of new ones in the zone of interests of Russia.
                1. g1v2
                  g1v2 24 July 2016 20: 30
                  +3
                  Partly agree, but not with everything. Independent Erdogan with his ambitions and the dream of the Ottoman Empire did not need mattresses in FIGs - they need sixes, not players. Therefore, they tried to pit us so that we removed Erdogan for them and weakened themselves. NATO would not declare war on us - they would simply feed the Turkish military.
                  Erdogan apologized, of course, not because of tomatoes and tourism, although they also worked, since thousands of Turkish voters, who were clearly unhappy, suffered from this. The main blow for Erdogan was the offensive of the Kurds in Syria and Western special forces with stripes of Kurds. If the Kurds are united, then Turkey will for a long time have a hostile enclave on the southern border, where their Kurds will be based, and the participation of the United States in the operation suggests that independent Kurdistan is not excluded. Here the Kurds then became the main pain point, and then the GDP hints through Nazarbayev and Aliyev - Erdik, return to the family and I will forgive everything. The main thing is to apologize publicly and go to the right side of the force.
                  So the Sultan ran the letter and wrote, than he already frightened the mattresses and they gave the Turkish military the go-ahead for a coup. Well, we are purely by chance wink they were interrupted - it happens. Well, for this ripped off coup, the answer came to us in the form of a doping scandal. Something like that in a nutshell. hi
          2. Vadivak
            Vadivak 24 July 2016 14: 49
            +11
            Quote: Kars
            I think the sincerity of gratitude to Erdogan and Turkey could be appreciated if he recognized Crimea for the Russian Federation. And he seems to want to get off with the pilots who shot down the Su-24.

            Andrei, you are aware that the Black Sea used to be Turkish, they called him the inner lake, what thanks? They have a grudge against us from time immemorial and no one is deceived regarding these guys
            1. wolk71
              wolk71 24 July 2016 16: 51
              +5
              Quote: Vadivak
              Quote: Kars
              I think the sincerity of gratitude to Erdogan and Turkey could be appreciated if he recognized Crimea for the Russian Federation. And he seems to want to get off with the pilots who shot down the Su-24.

              Andrei, you are aware that the Black Sea used to be Turkish, they called him the inner lake, what thanks? They have a grudge against us from time immemorial and no one is deceived regarding these guys

              In fact, the Black Sea in ancient years was called the Russian Sea.
              1. Vadivak
                Vadivak 24 July 2016 19: 39
                +2
                Quote: wolk71
                In fact, the Black Sea in ancient years was called the Russian Sea.

                IT SAME Pont Aksinsky, Scythian Sea, Pontus Euxinus Amshyn E ЕқәA AND OTHER
            2. ver_
              ver_ 24 July 2016 17: 10
              +2
              Previously, both the Black and Baltic Sea were called Russian ..
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        3. alexmach
          alexmach 24 July 2016 22: 00
          +4
          Russia does not need a bloody massacre in Turkey


          Well, and one more thing - it is better to deal with the authorities leading at least some sort of independent policy than with American puppets. It is possible, in principle, to reach agreement with the former about something even where there is a conflict of interests; it is even useless to speak with the latter.
          1. Signore Tomato
            Signore Tomato 26 July 2016 22: 10
            0
            Quote: alexmach


            Well, and one more thing - it is better to deal with the authorities leading at least some sort of independent policy than with American puppets. It is possible, in principle, to reach agreement with the former about something even where there is a conflict of interests; it is even useless to speak with the latter.



            That's right!
            As an example, Eastern European microstates.
        4. Drzed
          Drzed 25 July 2016 03: 45
          0
          ours did everything right, especially taking into account the possibility of capturing the American arsenal of arsenal, but this is unlikely to be a lesson for penguins
      2. Reserve officer
        Reserve officer 24 July 2016 13: 44
        +14
        Simply, Russia did not need another Maidan, now in Turkey. Erdogan, with all disrespect for him, is a legitimate ruler. And coups d'etat are always fraught with very unpleasant surprises with regard to international treaties. And do not forget about the American nuclear weapons in Turkey.
        1. novobranets
          novobranets 24 July 2016 14: 30
          +4
          Quote: Reserve officer
          Erdogan, with all disrespect for him, a legitimate ruler .... And do not forget about the American nuclear weapons in Turkey.
          Add my five cents. And who were these putschists? What did they really want, and if they were in power, would they not be worse than Edorgan?
        2. ver_
          ver_ 24 July 2016 17: 23
          +3
          .. but it's not about legitimacy .. All options have long been calculated, as well as the consequences. We only know what the "pig" knows, and until the end of this "party" is not yet close - Europa has not yet "gorged" and Ukraine has not jumped up to condition ..
        3. cheap trick
          cheap trick 25 July 2016 07: 01
          0
          It seems to me that the Americans will already take him out of harm's way)))
      3. 222222
        222222 24 July 2016 16: 54
        +1
        Again GDP is to blame ...
        Putin-Erdogan’s plan ...
        ... The answer to America .. and ... "Abductions of Europe" ... laughing
      4. Alexey-74
        Alexey-74 25 July 2016 09: 42
        0
        It is necessary to change the regime in Turkey, and Turkey itself should slowly be pulled into the zone of influence of Russia and pushed away from the United States - this will be a long and difficult political game, and if it does not work out, create conditions so that Turkey can’t even think about provocation against Russia
    2. Andrey K
      Andrey K 24 July 2016 12: 36
      +11
      At the same time, Chavushoglu declined to comment on what exactly was the Russian support.

      Information slipped through that they shared radio intercepts with Erdogan about the impending coup and the assault on Marmaris in time ...
      In fact, they saved Erdogan's skin, and Turkey from the bloody massacre ...
      1. Khariton
        Khariton 24 July 2016 12: 49
        -2
        Yes, there is nothing to thank ....! A good bite was just ... bully
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 24 July 2016 14: 51
          +2
          Quote: Chariton
          Yes, there is nothing to thank ....! A good bite was just

          Good photo, envy white envy
      2. captain
        captain 24 July 2016 14: 15
        +3
        If our intelligence helped, then this is probably right, if only sideways help would not come to us.
        1. guzik007
          guzik007 24 July 2016 18: 34
          +2
          I don’t remember in which film, but the meaning of the dialogue between the cop and the journalist was as follows:
          J.-So you say that you know everything and everyone about the gang, so why don’t you arrest everyone
          M.-That's exactly why. After all, they are under our control. And we liquidate the gang, others will come and it’s not the fact that we will immediately know and control everything about them
          : =))
        2. Dam
          Dam 24 July 2016 19: 51
          +2
          I don’t know what will happen later, but now Turkey, as a result of our help, has ended the army for some reason. And all this is with their own hands. I think the calculation is correct.
      3. Ze Kot
        Ze Kot 24 July 2016 17: 46
        +2
        Quote: Andrey K
        on time shared with Erdogan radio intercepts



        Now the Turks and Americans know that the Russians are listening to them and will change the encoding.
        1. samoletil18
          samoletil18 24 July 2016 20: 41
          +1
          Quote: The Cat
          Quote: Andrey K
          on time shared with Erdogan radio intercepts



          Now the Turks and Americans know that the Russians are listening to them and will change the encoding.

          You want to say that the putschists and pro-government forces have the same ciphers? Then, the author of the putsch Erdogan recourse
          In any case, Erdogan is not Yanukovych. Intelligence works for us. One Maidan, at least, has not yet taken place. Bosphorus and Dardanelles are not closed. Russia has a chance to strengthen the influence of ha BV. Well, with olympic hopes for us, of course, as with the elements of the Cold War against us as a whole, we are waiting for great tensions (and not figs were to restore sovereignty, we will have to take revenge for the collapse of the Union, otherwise they will gobble up).
    3. Altona
      Altona 24 July 2016 12: 54
      +4
      Quote: oleg-gr
      Support recognized.

      ---------------------
      So our warning Erdogan about the mutiny was true. Apparently an unsuccessful attempt to eliminate Erdogan led to an unsuccessful development of events for the rebels. They failed to deprive the Turkish subjects of the legitimate ruler. Well, further "something went wrong", the rebels did not have a plan "B".
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 24 July 2016 13: 06
        +6
        Quote: Altona
        So the truth was our warning to Erdogan about the rebellion.

        Not just because our tourists traveled. smile
      2. lelikas
        lelikas 24 July 2016 14: 26
        +1
        Quote: Altona
        ... Well, further "something went wrong", the rebels did not have a plan "B".

        Plan B is to run.
    4. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 24 July 2016 13: 34
      +12
      Turkish Foreign Minister: Russia provided the greatest assistance to Turkey
      yes choke ...
      1. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 24 July 2016 14: 04
        +4
        Quote: NIKNN
        Big politics damn, it’s possible to explain everything, but anyway, the brain drives us into a dead end


        Speak the truth! One name of the holiday is worth what! Where is democracy, and where is Erdogan!
        Of course, there is no need for unrest in the border state, “only politics, nothing personal.” However, how many times our country was betrayed by those whom she helped.
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    6. Rezident007
      Rezident007 24 July 2016 14: 08
      +19
      Anyway, I don’t understand very many Russians who went to Turkey to rest after such a relationship with us - Russians. After all, it was not only at the political top of the Turkish government, most Turks (ordinary people) supported the fact that our plane was shot down. What insults and mockery were in our direction .. and how did you meet the volleyball team in Turkey? and a football club? and the ships passing through the Bosphorus as passed ??? Have you forgotten something? And then we want to be respected ...
      1. Rom14
        Rom14 24 July 2016 14: 39
        +10
        For many of the 90s and fat children in Russia, yes, conscience, honor for them, the main thing is a candy wrapper in your pocket and the slogan - take everything from life. They are not many, but they are so crap!
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 24 July 2016 15: 25
          +5
          According to their capabilities, they do what they see above.
          The artists went to Vaikula for a holiday, had fun, sang where monuments are being demolished and insulting our country, or this plaque in St. Petersburg. They, those who went, believe that they are right, this is how brains are arranged, apparently from glue. And cannot be explained. ukrov: "what about us?"
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      3. Amurskiy
        Amurskiy 24 July 2016 16: 10
        +1
        idiocy and wism cannot be cured. He, neither his own and his children, nor pride in his country, as in some athletes who, if they do not let us go to Rio, are ready to go mercenaries under the wrong flag, in a word. KNOWLEDGE TO VISIT TURACHECN, OTHER BASIC SPORTS THAT, PROFESSIONAL.
        1. ver_
          ver_ 24 July 2016 17: 31
          +1
          ... Duc, not everyone who has a Russian passport is worthy people ..- there are enough different foams ..
      4. asiat_61
        asiat_61 24 July 2016 22: 12
        0
        I agree with you. The idiots are complete. However, the DAM example itself, ordered the restoration of charter flights. How is it?
      5. alexmach
        alexmach 24 July 2016 22: 39
        0
        This is just some kind of nonsense.
        Okay, the hotels there are good and cheap.
        Okay, do not care about security - we will break through somehow.
        But how can I just close my eyes to insults, I do not understand.
      6. sharp-lad
        sharp-lad 24 July 2016 22: 53
        0
        Yes, quite a few "non-Russians" have appeared among the Russians thanks to the pernicious influence of the West.
    7. avva2012
      avva2012 24 July 2016 15: 56
      +2
      Quote: oleg-gr Will the "sultan" be able to understand the impossibility of creating a new Ottoman Empire?

      I think so, the "Ottoman Empire" at the present time is not the actual return of the territories lost by Turkey. A new "Ottoman Empire", if created, will be based on a new ideology, like the "democratic values" of the West. Count the territories that, with the help of propaganda, were able to annex to themselves, without any war, Western civilizers. "Today you listen, you are jazz, and tomorrow you will sell your homeland."
      Is it so funny, in the conditions of hybrid wars, is this perceived now?
      1. sergeybulkin
        sergeybulkin 24 July 2016 17: 09
        +1
        "Today you listen, you are jazz, and tomorrow you will sell your homeland."
        Is it so funny, in the conditions of hybrid wars, is this perceived now?

        In, in, with this, it all begins ... although jazz has nothing to do with it (although it is difficult to call it music), but it is with the refining of ideology that it all begins. First, the flared pants, then the cock-colored crest on the head, then in all the grave and complete mess, why there they can and I can’t, I stole a wallet from a passerby for a dose - a zone and after two square meters to the cemetery (and then if you're lucky). .. negative
        1. Ruslan67
          Ruslan67 24 July 2016 17: 35
          +1
          Quote: sergeybulkin
          . although jazz has nothing to do with it (although it’s hard to call it music),

          recourse Have you heard Gershwin's lullaby?
  2. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 24 July 2016 12: 14
    +7
    Somewhere the Turks sat in a puddle, and ours, out of kindness of heart, not only pulled them out of there, but also covered their ass. Only now should I help ???
    1. corporal
      corporal 24 July 2016 12: 25
      +3
      Quote: Exorcist Liberoids
      Only now should I help ???

      And hell knows what our hopes are there. request

      But in fact, even in street fights, a slipping enemy is scored to the end.

      ==============================================
      Turkish Foreign Minister: Russia provided the greatest assistance to Turkey
      The head of the Turkish special services: "And for this we will do you the greatest mischief in the future."
      bully
    2. jovanni
      jovanni 24 July 2016 12: 46
      +5
      Apparently of the two evils I had to choose the least. There generally mattress would be flooded ...
      1. DIVAN SOLDIER
        DIVAN SOLDIER 24 July 2016 16: 45
        0
        Well, now again, friendship with Turkey, until the next downed plane ...
    3. ando_bor
      ando_bor 24 July 2016 20: 43
      0
      Who thinks that the leader of a NATO member country can afford not to join the anti-Russian sanctions, and he will get nothing for it? if it were so - the entire American system of domination would have collapsed long ago - or the Europeans are delighted with sanctions, who disobey in such matters - that is the end. And here is an exception, a precedent. What will happen next - we'll see. And enough in politics "to be friends", in politics there is no friendship - there are interests.
  3. svp67
    svp67 24 July 2016 12: 14
    -4
    So I understand that our denied refuge to the coup. I do not see any other BIG support.
    1. Blackgrifon
      Blackgrifon 24 July 2016 12: 39
      +3
      In fact, Erdogan was warned through official channels a few hours before the coup, which allowed him to leave the hotel.
      1. svp67
        svp67 24 July 2016 17: 44
        0
        Quote: Blackgrifon
        In fact, Erdogan was warned through official channels a few hours before the coup, which allowed him to leave the hotel.

        And they revealed the source of information, that is, they failed the intelligence officer. And without this, that is, without specifying a specific source, I do not think that Erdogan would have believed. Something I honestly do not understand our "love" for Erdogan. Something is wrong here.
        1. ando_bor
          ando_bor 24 July 2016 20: 53
          +1
          Erdogan disobeyed the "owner" even when he had not imposed sanctions against Russia, they do not forgive this, especially to the leader of a NATO member country, the fact that Erdogan is now "knitting" is a classic American sphere of influence, in Ukraine it has seized power, the elections to power leads, but here it has not passed, this is a precedent.
    2. stas
      stas 24 July 2016 13: 30
      +8
      In today's world, information is expensive.
      And the fact of recognition is a positive moment, especially the NATO countries.
  4. pv1005
    pv1005 24 July 2016 12: 20
    +19
    To whom only Russia in its history of existence has not provided support and saved more than once. That's just in response to all this, all the saved and supported are turning back to Russia.
  5. corporal
    corporal 24 July 2016 12: 33
    -1
    The Russian military intercepted the coded information of those preparing the coup in Turkey. This information was transferred to the Turkish authorities, and Erdogan managed to escape from the hotel in the resort of Marmaris.
    Relatives and friends of Peshkov and Pozynich are delighted. am am am
    1. Blackgrifon
      Blackgrifon 24 July 2016 12: 46
      +27
      Would it be calmer for you if a group of completely pro-American puppets seized power in Turkey, with the full support of the army, instead of a nationalist who is now, to our delight, "cleansing" our own armed forces and officer corps? How many years will it take for the Turks to raise new colonels, generals and admirals? Please note that an officer (even a junior one) is a very expensive specialist and his "cost", like that of an elite wine, grows over the years. The loss of even 1/3 of senior and middle officers - Erdogan's opponents - will throw Turkey and its ability to influence the Kurds and, accordingly, Syria by direct armed means, several years ago.

      PS: Our troops are fighting for our security and for the national interests of their homeland - do not confuse their feat and your attitude to the situation.
      1. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 24 July 2016 14: 15
        +1
        Quote: Blackgrifon
        Would it be calmer for you if a group of completely pro-American puppets seized power in Turkey, with the full support of the army, instead of a nationalist who is now "cleansing" our own Armed Forces and the officer corps to our delight?

        PS: Our troops are fighting for our security and for the national interests of their homeland - do not confuse their feat and your attitude to the situation.

        Wacky emoticons are generally inappropriate.
        And the States would have achieved greater benefits in this case than with the Ukrainians, the Crimea. continue to dig under us in one way or another
  6. weksha50
    weksha50 24 July 2016 12: 36
    +6
    "in Turkey after the attempted coup dismissed the presidential guard"...

    Hmm ... Not always the presidential guard is the stronghold of the president ...
    Now Erdogan will be afraid of his own shadow ...

    And the fact that ours was warned about the upcoming coup - I don’t even know, frankly, how to react ...

    Most likely, they went along the path: it is better to have the president of Turkey have already studied the lap under the supervision of his intelligence and diplomats, than to let someone unknown to power ...

    And to save Erdogan, taking over - so the spirit is not needed ...
    There, they saved Yanyka - but what's the point? They could not use it with utility ... More precisely, they did not want to ...
    1. Muvka
      Muvka 24 July 2016 13: 36
      0
      Quote: weksha50
      "in Turkey after the attempted coup dismissed the presidential guard"...

      Hmm ... Not always the presidential guard is the stronghold of the president ...
      Now Erdogan will be afraid of his own shadow ...

      And the fact that ours was warned about the upcoming coup - I don’t even know, frankly, how to react ...

      Most likely, they went along the path: it is better to have the president of Turkey have already studied the lap under the supervision of his intelligence and diplomats, than to let someone unknown to power ...

      And to save Erdogan, taking over - so the spirit is not needed ...
      There, they saved Yanyka - but what's the point? They could not use it with utility ... More precisely, they did not want to ...

      But what about the Crimea? He seems to have signed papers recognizing the referendum or something like that. I was still in office. Although maybe I'm confusing the chronology ...
    2. cedar
      cedar 24 July 2016 14: 32
      +4
      There, they saved Yanyka - but what's the point? They could not use it with utility ... More precisely, they did not want to ...

      Not yet evening...
    3. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 24 July 2016 14: 53
      +4
      Quote: weksha50
      Hmm ... Not always the presidential guard is the stronghold of the president ...

      Well, Duc, fifty-fifty. And the Praetorians "endured" the Caesars, there was a whole series of "soldier" emperors. They came for Peter III ... Yes, and Nicholas II was somehow not very "protected" ... And among the Ottomans themselves, they often came to power "on scimitars". In principle, such a "personal guard", in addition to security, also performs control functions in relation to the "first body". So, just in case ... There are different cases ... yes
    4. voronbel53
      voronbel53 24 July 2016 14: 55
      +2
      Quote: weksha50
      There, they saved Yanyka - but what's the point? They could not use it with utility ... More precisely, they did not want to ...

      They simply saved Yanukovych from reprisal, saved a person’s life, and we don’t need him for nothing (we used, maybe, some secret data). To use it a second time, anyway, to use toilet paper again ... But Prime Minister Azarov can still be attached to the future government of the outskirts.
      1. ver_
        ver_ 24 July 2016 17: 38
        +2
        ... in any case, he is today a legitimate president yet ... in exile ...
    5. BARKHAN
      BARKHAN 24 July 2016 15: 26
      +5
      Quote: weksha50
      There, they saved Yanyka - but what's the point?

      Five more years of similar democratic reforms and they will transfer Yanyka in their arms back to themselves across the border for another five years ... laughing
      1. V.ic
        V.ic 24 July 2016 15: 59
        0
        Quote: Barkhan
        Five more years of similar democratic reforms and they

        Do you know that Brezhnev is buried with his back to the top? / This is according to the joke.
        1. BARKHAN
          BARKHAN 24 July 2016 17: 23
          0
          Quote: V.ic
          Do you know that Brezhnev is buried with his back to the top?

          belay I would be grateful if you tell me why I did not hear request
          I hope this is not connected with protoukry?
    6. avva2012
      avva2012 24 July 2016 15: 49
      +3
      Quote: weksha50 Most likely, they went along the path: it is better to have the president of Turkey have already studied the lap under the supervision of his intelligence and diplomats, than to let someone unknown to power ...

      In my unenlightened view, if we can intercept, and most importantly, read someone else's encrypted negotiations, then we certainly know about which printers will come to power as a result of the coup in Turkey.
  7. rruvim
    rruvim 24 July 2016 12: 43
    0
    It's not "evening" yet ... We are waiting for the "color revolution". If Erdogan's supporters took to the streets, this does not mean that his opponents did not come out. VVP at a meeting in August in Sochi, it is necessary to enlighten the "non-system" Erdogan.
  8. askort154
    askort154 24 July 2016 12: 48
    +2
    Generosity! Here is the criterion that distinguishes Russians from other nations.
    They returned Napolion to Paris, Hitler to Berlin, we do not hold evil against their peoples and do not suffer a national phobia against them. Only the strong is capable of generosity! Now mass Western Russophobia from its powerlessness. Even the Turks began to understand this.
    1. Khariton
      Khariton 24 July 2016 12: 53
      -1
      Quote: askort154
      Generosity! Here is the criterion that distinguishes Russians from other nations.
      They returned Napolion to Paris, Hitler to Berlin, we do not hold evil against their peoples and do not suffer a national phobia against them. Only the strong is capable of generosity! Even the Turks began to understand this.

      Russia is a generous soul and generous, but if you piss it off ...! Breaks the ridges, indiscriminately to everyone .. Contact! We will help ...
    2. rruvim
      rruvim 24 July 2016 13: 03
      -2
      There is no generosity. The foreman understands that our aircraft are capable of something. Remember 1991
      Therefore: the head of the Ministry of Defense - "combat" General Shoigu. And he sympathized with Erdogan, as a president and a charismatic. And the future putschists shot down our Su-shka. Then commanded the General Staff, specifically the chief of the Turkish Air Force (the main putschist). Erdogan turned out to have nothing to do with it.
      1. Muvka
        Muvka 24 July 2016 13: 38
        +1
        Quote: rruvim
        There is no generosity. The foreman understands that our aircraft are capable of something. Remember 1991
        Therefore: the head of the Ministry of Defense - "combat" General Shoigu. And he sympathized with Erdogan, as a president and a charismatic. And the future putschists shot down our Su-shka. Then commanded the General Staff, specifically the chief of the Turkish Air Force (the main putschist). Erdogan turned out to have nothing to do with it.

        I can not agree with you at all. Well, the putschists shot down. But why did Erdogan not apologize and betray all those involved in ours? And I remember his speeches that they do not owe us anything, etc. Although it may have been embellished by our media, xs.
        1. rruvim
          rruvim 24 July 2016 14: 55
          +1
          The answer is simple. Erdogan already considered himself the commander-in-chief. Although Turkey is not a presidential republic, but a parliamentary one. BY LAW, at that time, he could not give the order to shoot down our plane. I just couldn't! The question could only be accepted by the Air Force Commander and the General Staff. His opinion was, only. as a politician "For", but he could not give an order to destroy the plane according to the Turkish constitution ...
    3. SPACE
      SPACE 24 July 2016 13: 47
      +3
      Quote: askort154
      Generosity! Here is the criterion that distinguishes Russians from other nations.

      Generosity, I think in this case this is a secondary criterion. Pragmatism is ordinary. In Turkey, where the presidential party’s influence and control was strong, there could be no serious, internal organizational forces to carry out a coup, it apparently happened under the secret leadership of the CIA and the State Department, which is indirectly confirmed by some of Erdogan’s indirect indirect claims to the United States. And if the FSB was aware of the plans of the American special services and what is beyond doubt, the Kremlin could have reasonably acted, having leaked information about the upcoming coup to Erdogan, thereby classically drive a wedge between the former allies ...
      1. rruvim
        rruvim 24 July 2016 16: 26
        +3
        Most likely the FSB and leaked information, Erdogan escaped from the Hotel 25 minutes before his capture.
      2. ando_bor
        ando_bor 24 July 2016 21: 02
        0
        The State Department could not simply forgive Turkey’s non-alignment with the sanctions - is this the collapse of the American dominance system, Erdogan was punished - by a coup, or did it all start with a downed plane?
    4. V.ic
      V.ic 24 July 2016 16: 37
      +4
      Quote: askort154
      Returned Napolиshe’s in Paris, Hitler’s in Berlin,

      Did you have any interesting textbooks, probably edited by "FomenkoNosovsky"?
      Buonaparte on the island of St. Helena died, and Schicklgruber seems to be in Argentina.
      But a good topic was raised:
      1. Catherine 1 refused the British to send Russian troops against the rebels of George Washington - in 1775
      2. Alexander 2 sent two squadrons to America in 1863 in New York and San Francisco, speaking on the side of the northerners.
      As a result: all Russians are "commies". A good commie is a dead commie.
      3. Nicholas 1 sent in 1849 to help Osterreich, against the rebellious Magyars, troops led by Field Marshal Paskevich-Erivansky. The Austrians, who promised to supply the Russian warriors with food, as always did not fulfill their promises. The rebellion is suppressed within three months. Losses of Russian warriors 709 people.
      As a result: Franz Josef 1 answered with black ingratitude, having advanced troops to the borders of the Republic of Ingushetia during the Crimean War, forcing Alexander 2 to end the war.
      4. In the Franco-Prussian War of 1870-1871, RI helped Prussia with its neutrality. As a result: the San Stefano Peace Treaty between Russia and Turkey was revised at the Berlin Congress. Audited in favor of Austria /no side at all in that war/ (at that time already an ally of Germany).
      5. The help of the Bolsheviks in establishing the regime of Mustafa Kemal Pasha has already been said many times.
  9. HAM
    HAM 24 July 2016 13: 20
    +4
    I believe that even if a warning was made, it was not from a generous Russian soul. Rather, the ears of “lovers of color revolutions” peeped out in the coup, so a famous ... better than an unknown smart guy. In this particular case.
    1. ando_bor
      ando_bor 24 July 2016 21: 05
      +2
      The ears there are clearly sticking out, non-alignment with sanctions - they don’t forgive such a thing.
  10. erased
    erased 24 July 2016 13: 23
    -1
    Ass licking the Turks - the top of the asymmetric response for our guys who died in Syria. And a couple of planes will be shot down - and generally taken forever.
    1. rruvim
      rruvim 24 July 2016 15: 01
      +1
      Nobody is going to lick the ass of the Turks, but you have to understand. that we have always agreed with the Ottomans (I will not say the number of peace treaties between Russia and Turkey). Yes! They are enemies. But how much? The Ottoman Empire no longer exists, Turkey is a "complexed" country, moreover, it is surrounded by enemies. One "Armenia" is worth something. And not to give her a "hand"?
  11. pofigisst74
    pofigisst74 24 July 2016 13: 24
    0
    Like this ... They bring down our planes, and we help them. request
    1. rruvim
      rruvim 24 July 2016 15: 06
      -1
      And we shot down a South Korean Boeing in 1982, and now I have a SAMSUNG TV. So what?
      1. V.ic
        V.ic 24 July 2016 16: 47
        +2
        Quote: rruvim
        And we shot down a South Korean Boeing in 1982, and now I have a SAMSUNG TV. So what?

        What? Another? By the way, did they tell you about "this" on "TV"? Come on, come on: tell me in more detail, day, month (you have already designated the year = 1982) ... From 1980 to 1985 he served in Primorye, KDVO and I know nothing about the incident in 1982! Oh, what a pity!
        1. rruvim
          rruvim 25 July 2016 00: 12
          0
          April 20, 1978 I didn’t mean. I checked myself, 1983 over Sakhalin. I served in 1987 at the Sary-Shagan training ground, on the POST-3M Product, the officers told how this "station" discovered a RES aircraft flying with Boeing. Although they "led" him, "their" 2000 km., Have not yet mocked. We all know the consequences.
          1. Simpsonian
            Simpsonian 25 July 2016 00: 41
            0
            The consequences were such that they didn’t find a single corpse, simply because KAL007 flew without passengers ... After the Americans shot down Iran Air 655 they found everyone, the captain and ship’s commander were awarded.
            They also shot down with MN-17 and hung it on Russia ...
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    2. ando_bor
      ando_bor 24 July 2016 21: 08
      0
      And the fact that the plane, and then the coup, this punishment for not joining the sanctions does not occur?
  12. v02000
    v02000 24 July 2016 13: 35
    -4
    Yanukovych was also provided - wait for the answer.
  13. isker
    isker 24 July 2016 13: 37
    +1
    Even well-boiled slops - still remain slops! (with)
  14. cedar
    cedar 24 July 2016 14: 51
    +2
    Without the knowledge of the Anglo-Saxons, a coup would not have been possible. Given the fact that, among others, the Turks who fought in Syria in the ranks of the American ISIS, were attracted to the rebellion, especially. Erdogan (and the group of the doomed behind him) this American trace, in its political and physical elimination, will unwind one, two, three, and will not say thanks to its puppeteers.
    "The enemy of my enemy, my friend." Well, not a friend, so a stable partner .., perhaps this was our calculation.
  15. Orionvit
    Orionvit 24 July 2016 15: 34
    0
    . At the same time, Cavusoglu declined to comment on what exactly Russian support consisted of.
    Why then generally speak language.
  16. Berkut24
    Berkut24 24 July 2016 15: 58
    +1
    Well ... somehow ... Since 2000, Russia has not provided services for a simple thank you. Now, after communicating with Europe and the USA, we also have a notebook.
  17. Darth Revan
    Darth Revan 24 July 2016 16: 23
    0
    Be that as it may, Erdogan is better than no one to understand.
  18. akudr48
    akudr48 24 July 2016 16: 58
    +2
    Brother will always help brother, let me just pull the knife from the back
  19. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 24 July 2016 17: 37
    +1
    Well, that's all settled drinks . I was from the very beginning of Russian-Turkish
    Conflict sure that two people's leaders reconcile after demonstrations to each other
    muscles.
    Both have problems. Putin has economic, Erdogan has political.
    Together will be easier for both.
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 24 July 2016 22: 29
      0
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Both have problems. At Fishing season - economic, Erdogan - political.

      And Beni Netanyahu family? / The song "Lemons" /.
  20. grandfather Mih
    grandfather Mih 24 July 2016 17: 39
    +2
    You need to be friends with a neighbor. And there is no partnership for thanks. Sustainable government is part of the small. If they understand.
  21. fa2998
    fa2998 24 July 2016 18: 00
    +4
    Quote: Kars
    And he seems to want to get off the pilots who shot down the Su-24.

    Well, it should be noted that the pilot was taken for involvement in the coup, and they did not blame him for the downing of the plane. He executed the order of the highest command (and the president is the commander in chief).
    Really quickly made friends with Turkey, forgot all the insults. They saved dozens of epitaphs from the conspirators - "terrorists' accomplice, smuggler" and dozens of epitaphs with which our media and leaders regaled Erdogan for six months. Not only "got off with tomatoes", but also retained power thanks to the help of Russia. request recourse hi
    1. ando_bor
      ando_bor 24 July 2016 21: 11
      0
      Turkey did not join the sanctions, such America does not forgive, otherwise its entire system of domination would have collapsed long ago.