New rate on the agricultural locomotive of the Russian economy

Recently, Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a decree on the need to develop and approve a federal science and technology program for the development of agriculture for the next decade. Several ministries and departments will be involved in the development, including the Ministry of Agriculture, the Ministry of Education and Science, the Ministry of Industry and Trade, the Ministry of Communications and Mass Communications, the Federal Agency for Scientific Organizations. In addition, active participation in the creation of a program of agroindustrial, as well as scientific institutions dealing with problems of agriculture is expected. In particular, the potential of the RAS (Russian Academy of Sciences) will be involved.
The program involves the creation of so-called interdisciplinary research centers in the field of agriculture. Within such centers, the main ideas of the development of the agricultural sector in the country will be accumulated with the aim of increasing its share in the system of forming the state budget.

According to Russian President Vladimir Putin, it is necessary to attend to the creation and implementation of competitive technologies that would be based on the latest scientific achievements. This is a whole list of software and technical components that need to be implemented before 2026.

In particular, this is the development of its own seed fund, which, after the collapse of the USSR, was actually reduced to nothing, and the lion’s share of seed banks today is purchases from foreign "partners". In addition, it implies the creation of a domestic breeding material for the animal breeding complex, which also degraded after the announcement in 1991 that "we have achieved freedom".
Research centers are tasked to create high-quality feed, feed elements and additives, to create a system for checking genetic material for its high quality. Profile ministries should organize work on the creation of objects for processing and storage of agricultural products with the aim that it did not happen that a record crop was harvested, but a considerable part of it simply rots under the open sky.

The need to study the organization of markets for agricultural products, as well as food obtained from the processing of agricultural production, is noted. The program has a point on ensuring the safety of the development of the livestock complex. In particular, it points to the need to take measures to create veterinary drugs of their own nature, which allow to prevent the spread of such diseases among animals, which in some cases simply mow the livestock in a number of Russian regions.

As one of the forms allowing a substantive analysis of the state of affairs in the Russian agro-industrial complex, the All-Russian Agricultural Census is determined, which will end on August 15 in most parts of Russia, and in a number of remote subjects it will be held from September to November 15. Conducting this kind of census will determine the number of large agro-industrial holdings, peasant farms, individual entrepreneurs engaged in the field of agriculture, the volume of the park of agricultural equipment and the percentage distribution of Russian-made equipment in it. This will make it possible to determine the volumes and rates of state subsidies in the context of the ongoing sanctions and counter-sanctions epic, and also taking into account the fact that Russia is “like” in the WTO (World Trade Organization).

The previous agricultural census, which took place exactly 10 years ago in our country, allowed us to prepare the basis for the adoption and implementation of the priority national project “Development of the AIC” and the state program for the development of agriculture and regulation of agricultural products, raw materials and food markets. The complex of measures operated during the entire previous crisis period in the Russian and world economy: from 2008 to 2012. The success of the program is hardly to dispute.

So, thanks to the program's operation, the acreage in Russia from 2008 to 2010 increased by almost 4 million hectares (from 75 to 79 million hectares, respectively). The unfavorable climatic conditions in 2010 made a negative contribution to this process, however, the groundwork was made, and after the decrease in acreage in 2010, since 2011, their growth is again observed. In a number of regions, yield records were broken. And we are talking not only about the south of Russia, but also the regions of Siberia. In the Stavropol and Krasnodar Territories, the Voronezh Region, the Republic of Adygea, in the Altai, the yield by 25-50% exceeded the world average. Thus, wheat yields in Canada in 2012 were about 29 t per hectare, and yields in Krasnodar Krai in the same year (according to Rosstat) reached 47 t / ha. In fairness it should be noted that the average percentage of yields in Russia in 2008-2012 was inferior to Canadian and American, but the percentage of lag was decreasing from year to year. Similar trends continue today.

Reporting ministries of agricultureheaded by ex-governor of the Kuban Alexander Tkachev, looks more than convincing. According to the reporting documentation provided by the Ministry, as of 21 July, more than 26 million tons of wheat had already been harvested in the country, which is 39% more than the previous year. Productivity at the same time increased by more than 11 percent. This is an absolute record for all recent years. Average yields in the Southern Federal District - 44,9 centners per hectare (in 2015 - 40 centners per hectare); in the North Caucasus Federal District (North Caucasus Federal District) - 41,7 c / ha (2015 - 37,9 c / ha); Crimean Federal District - 28,6 t / ha (2015 - 26,5); The Volga Federal District demonstrates the most impressive growth in yield indicators - 27,3 centners / ha in 2016 in comparison with 13,9 centners / hectare last year; TSFO - 39,8 d / ha (2015 - 32,5).

There is an increase in yields and harvests in a number of other crops: barley yields rose by 5% compared to the same period last year, potatoes - by 16,4%, and winter rape - by 27,5%.

On 18 of July of the current year, greenhouse vegetables in the country were collected by 21,5% more than in the same period of 2015 of the year, which made it possible to increase the percentage of domestic products on the Russian market by about the same figures.

The production of domestic poultry for slaughter increased by about 5% in live weight.

The most important work is underway to improve the domestic system of agricultural insurance, which allows farmers to receive compensation for losses in the event of, for example, adverse weather conditions affecting the crop.

Experts expect growth in the agricultural industry in the current year. While maintaining the current pace, we can hope for growth rates in 4,5-5%.

If the federal science and technology program for the development of agriculture also works in the same vein, then we can expect truly radical changes in the AIC system. Plans, as they say, hulk. And the realization of this “hulk” will enable Russia to realize the most powerful agricultural potential, which few can afford to compete with on the world market even with the remaining sanctioning tendencies. When taking into account recent achievements in agriculture (the point of growth for which was given not only by counter sanctions, but also by the work of a number of state programs), there is reason for optimism. The main thing is to do without the influence of the “genius” of eKhvektivnyh managers, who consider any kind of security (including food) from the point of view of the likelihood of exclusively personal enrichment ...

Comments

[Andrey Yuryevich]

life, taught us to be careful about “decrees”, “decrees” and “orders”, often the words of the Head shake the air, from the fluctuations of which, the officials “on the ground” are neither cold nor hot, but simply put, they the task is to get more for yourself, "lose" the next elections, and disappear from the field of vision of the state, "like in Bermuda, forever" (C).

[Art777]

Well, yes .. The commission, with a bunch of committees and subcommittees, with directors and managers, with the purchase of real estate and "equipment", with a bloated staff of secretaries, assistants, drivers, and a bunch of official cars, will probably be created in Moscow, or at the extreme in St. Petersburg. They will spend a certain amount of billions on this. And on earth, as agricultural holdings ruled the ball with Western technologies, seed and breeding fund, and will rule.

[Aleksander]

Quote: Art777

. And on earth, as agricultural holdings with western technologies, a seed and tribal fund ruled the ball, they will rule.

The purpose of the program is to fix it.
Such a program, I hope, is evidence that the authorities, nevertheless, realized that the sanctions were in place for a long time and ceased to hope that through humiliating concessions they would be able to cancel them.

[Temples]

While retail is in the hands of networks, all efforts are down the drain.

Yes, we will sell grain.

And let’s continue to buy tomatoes and potatoes over the hill.
This, as they say, do not go to the grandmother.

The approach should be comprehensive.
From production to sales, not forgetting about recycling.
If all this is returned to the inhabitants of the village, then there will be good.
And if the bureaucrats (as is happening now) build up regular farms for their state money or continue to hand over land to the Chinese, then all this garbage.


Ali who doesn’t eat Chinese mushrooms and gherkins now?

How lowered Russia !!!

[g1v2]

The doctrine of food security, adopted in 2010, has not been canceled. Quote.
8. To assess the state of food security as a criterion, the specific gravity of domestic agricultural, fishery products and food in the total volume of commodity resources (taking into account carry-over stocks) of the domestic market of relevant products is determined, which has threshold values ​​in relation to:
grains - not less than 95 percent;
sugar - not less than 80 percent;
vegetable oil - at least 80 percent;
meat and meat products (in terms of meat) - at least 85 percent;
milk and dairy products (in terms of milk) - not less than 90 percent;
fish products - at least 80 percent;
potatoes - not less than 95 percent;
food salt - not less than 85 percent.
For vegetables - currently 170 greenhouse complexes are being built in the country with an investment volume of approximately 24 billion rubles. In the next five years, about 2 thousand hectares of new greenhouses should appear in Russia. Alexander Tkachev estimates the volume of investments in such areas at 200 billion rubles.
The share of imports of greenhouse vegetables is now 45 percent, in 2012 it was 67 percent, by 2020 the goal is to reach 10 percent of imports of greenhouse vegetables. By the way, we not only import the same potatoes, but also export them.

[PHANTOM-AS]

Quote: g1v2

The doctrine of food security, adopted in 2010, has not been canceled.

Nobody did it!
I have been hearing these blahs for 16 years, like "we need to increase", "we need to increase", "we need to fight", "we need to act", "we need to raise", "improve", "get up from our knees" and so on. etc.
and the tomatoes are again Turkish, the potatoes from Egypt, the Jewish carrots, and the airbasses and the Boeings in the sky.

[g1v2]

And statistics show what is being done. If you believe the question or statistics, then the choice is obvious to me. Well, what do you hear there, as a rule this is due to the fact that you take any chatter of any official at face value. To see the picture, one should not listen to idle chatter, even officials, but look at documents and figures, since there is a blessing.

[PHANTOM-AS]

Quote: g1v2

To see the picture, one should not listen to idle chatter, even officials, but look at documents and figures, since there is a blessing.

To see the big picture, you just need to drive around the country and you will see the "big picture".

Quote: g1v2

Well, what do you hear there, as a rule this is due to the fact that you take any chatter of any official at face value

Heh, you confused me with someone, I can not trust (never at all) the "thimblers" who have 5 aces in their sleeve and a marked deck.
To analyze the situation, I have eyes, ears, a bit of education and a Marxist-Leninist theory

Quote: Bramb

Where do you manage to find a foreign ?!

In chain stores, but I don’t buy everything that you listed, but I get from my mother-in-law from the garden

[dmi.pris1]

Are you living with statistics? Don’t go to the stores? And I work at an enterprise processing agricultural products (imported). Iranian tomato paste, ketchups are doing. Vegetables for freezing are Israel, Turkey .. Eat further figures that the same officials will roll over to you.

Quote: g1v2

And statistics show what is being done. If you believe the question or statistics, then the choice is obvious to me. Well, what do you hear there, as a rule this is due to the fact that you take any chatter of any official at face value. To see the picture, one should not listen to idle chatter, even officials, but look at documents and figures, since there is a blessing.

[Bramb]

Quote: PHANTOM-AS

and the tomatoes are Turkish again, Egyptian potatoes, Jewish carrots.

Only yesterday I stocked up for a week. Our young potato, our tomatoes, carrots. greens, cucumbers, cherries, milk, cheese, meat - all of ours!
Where do you manage to find a foreign ?!

[atalef]

Quote: Bramb

Only yesterday I stocked up for a week. Our young potato, our tomatoes, carrots. greens, cucumbers, cherries, milk, cheese, meat - all our

[bk316]

Quote: Bramb

Where do you manage to find a foreign ?!

One out of two
or scribbling over a hill
or just tryndit


but in general I don’t even want to write, agriculture is an immense topic and our country is huge and we need to write professionally in this and with numbers in hand, and not like here now.

[Aleks76]

And it’s expensive for us to buy OUR! The people feed on what is cheaper, and this is (albeit strange) import.

[weksha50]

Quote: PHANTOM-AS

and the tomatoes are again Turkish, potatoes from Egypt, Jewish carrots

Not only...

Somewhere in 2006-2010 (I don’t remember exactly now) there was a program for the development of the agro-industrial complex, according to which credits were allocated for the development of large-horned livestock farming at meager interest ...

However, until now, most of the milk purchased in stores is made from dried milk purchased in the Netherlands, in Belarus ... Paradox ???

Agricultural lands are bought up in private hands and, in violation of Russian law, are not developed according to their purpose ... Paradox ??? But, according to the same Land Code and the Law on the use of agricultural lands, if they are not used for their intended purpose, their state must return to their property !!! This is - the golden fund of the country! The golden land that should feed the state and its population!

There is no control ... There is corruption on a universal scale ...

Therefore, I am somewhat wary of all plans and programs ... Do - and then - talk about the results ... Or keep quiet bashfully ...

[PHANTOM-AS]

Quote: weksha50

However, until now, most of the milk purchased in stores is made from milk powder purchased in the Netherlands, in Belarus ...

it’s still good if in these countries, and mainly in the tea house.
And our producers also extract milk from palm oil by making a profitable blow! import substitution, so to speak.

Quote: weksha50

Paradox ???

No paradoxes!
Does the hidden person have a "small" house in storage?
There!
A couple of bankers in London Got it!
Well and so on trifles to pocket money.

Quote: weksha50

This is - the golden fund of the country! The golden land that should feed the state and its population!

We will soon be extracting birch sap from this fund, and weaving from bast bast shoes.

Quote: weksha50

There is no control ... There is corruption on a universal scale ...

Non-current control is the same corruption, but, in fact, embezzlement!

[weksha50]

Quote: PHANTOM-AS

Non-current control is the same corruption, but, in fact, embezzlement!

Alas ... I agree ...

[potroshenko]

Quote: PHANTOM-AS

Non-current control is the same corruption, but, in fact, embezzlement!

Everything is muddy somehow. Issue a decree to issue a decree, to create an apparatus that will publish a program on how to come up with improvements in agriculture.
Are there really no research institutes in the whole country in which these issues are investigated, foreign experience is studied, and their own developments are tested in laboratories? Summon them to a meeting with the minister and let them put on the table different options for development, with their own pros and cons. Study them, or even better open them for public discussion, so that people also have their say and participate in the discussion. Let the well-known "experts" be invited to political talk shows and everyone will see if they can say something clever not about the decaying West, but on the case for the people to solve an important issue.
Perhaps this way people will see someone new smart in the political and economic orbit of the country and here on the site there will be interesting discussions.

[atalef]

Quote: potroshenko

Are there really no research institutes in the whole country that study these issues, study foreign experience, and experience their own developments in laboratories? Call them at a meeting with the Minister and put different development options on the table, with their pros and cons. To study them, and even better open for public discussion, so that people also have their say

Brezhnev, land reclamation ---- not, did not hear

[vlad_vlad]

Quote: PHANTOM-AS

Quote: g1v2

The doctrine of food security, adopted in 2010, has not been canceled.

Nobody did it!
I've heard these blahs for 16 years, like ... and so on. etc.
and the tomatoes are again Turkish, the potatoes from Egypt, the Jewish carrots, and the airbasses and the Boeings in the sky.

ABOUT!! deja vu! And we have the same thing!
vegetables from Holland, Spain, in the sky - airbases and Boeing! and for native German strawberries you have to pay 3 times more than for the same but from Israel!

do not give us import substitution! a little more and get to the point that we will import cars from Korea and the Czech Republic! or ... already ??

only a world conspiracy against our countries!

[weksha50]

Quote: g1v2

The doctrine of food security, adopted in 2010, has not been canceled.

"By the way the same potato we not only import, but and export".

Iehhhh ... I would like to rejoice ... However, living in Central Russia, moreover, more southern than many regions (Tula region), for some reason my wife often brings Israeli or Egyptian potatoes from shops ... They, probably the soil is better, and the climate is just for him ...
Earlier there was a Polish ...

What am I doing ...
Plans - plans ... What our verkhoduyu can do great is to develop various plans and programs and report them loudly ...
Obviously, this is also from the Soviet legacy ... Nikita in his revised Program of the CPSU promised the Soviet people that communism would be built in the USSR by the age of 8 ... But ... It didn’t work ... And how beautifully it was written and how beautiful it sounded ...

So we will wait for real, constructive results. And in order for them to work out, the peasant needs real help, and not on paper, to help ...

PS I put you a plus for optimism ...

[Al1977]

Quote: weksha50

I would like to rejoice ... However, living in Central Russia, and more south than many regions (Tula region), for some reason my wife often brings potatoes from stores to either Israeli or Egyptian ... They probably have soil better, and the climate is just for him ...
Earlier there was a Polish ...

Is it a question of the fact that our potato is not in the Tula region, or that your wife chooses a cheaper one? Moscow is full of domestic potatoes.
Turkish tomatoes were tasteless, and there were Azerbaijani ones. They cost more, but decently, but tasty. So this is a matter of economics and salary level. And do not say that in Russia you will not find our vegetables. Full of.

[weksha50]

Quote: Al1977

In Moscow full of domestic potatoes.
... And do not say that in Russia you will not find our vegetables. Full

Moscow is not Russia ... Everything has always been in it ...

And I'm talking about what really is in reality ...

[potroshenko]

Quote: weksha50

What is great for our Verkhoduyev is to develop various plans and programs and report them loudly

So I suppose there are also different administrations, the buildings will be built with their secretaries and an elite fleet of vehicles. Why then are ministries and institutions, shouldn't they work?

[atalef]

Quote: g1v2

The doctrine of food security, adopted in 2010, has not been canceled.

in no highly developed country is the agrarian complex the locomotive of the economy, but, on the contrary, it is usually subsidized and subsidized.
I am not saying that it is not necessary to develop agriculture, but rely on that. that he will pull the economy - somewhat optimistic.
Invests; it will be required by tens of billions, and the effect (during the period of European overproduction) of products will be
small
Of course, sanctions can be maintained - but this will lead to a lack of competition, and therefore to a rise in price with a dubious improvement in quality.
in general - a good thing, but costly, and it’s not going to pull on the locomotive of the economy a priori - at least based on the percentage segment of agricultural products in the Russian economy.

[alexej123]

I agree with one BUT. It will be a locomotive where the food market is not sufficiently saturated with its own goods, and where there is the possibility of exporting abroad. In Russia, the situation is suitable.

[g1v2]

But no one speaks seriously. that cx will be the engine of the economy, but the 148 millionth food market is a lot of money. Plus, we have 125 million japas, one and a half billion Chinese and 80 billion Koreans at our side. And there is something to sell. By the way, we are already growing the same soy for the Chinese, for example.
But in general, the doctrine is called the FOOD SECURITY DOCTRINE - this is the point. In principle, it is being carried out quite successfully, and by 2020 we will definitely achieve the set parameters, especially since we have already achieved many parameters.
Well, for the money. In 2013, we imported food worth $ 41 billion, and in 2015 already $ 26 billion. 30 percent is quite good import substitution in 2 years in my opinion.

[atalef]

Quote: g1v2

In 2013, we imported food worth $ 41 billion, and in 2015 already $ 26 billion. 30 percent quite good import substitution for 2 years in my opinion

if 30% did not in any way turn into a LOCOMOTIVE of the economy, how will they turn into it, even taking into account that they completely replace the remaining 70%?

[g1v2]

The locomotive of the economy for us is more the oil and gas processing and oil and gas chemical industries and energy, there is completely different money. If you read the previous comment from the beginning again, you will see the following phrase "Nobody seriously says that cx will be the locomotive of the economy, but the 148 millionth food market is serious money."
It is natural to compare 220 billion dollars from the export of mineral products in poor 2015 with its low prices and 16.1 billion dollars from food exports is silly. The question is to ensure food security, well, to ensure that those 5-10 million who work in the cx industry earn a living. Plus cx-machine building is developing well now, which also gives jobs and independence from other countries. Again, the cx-machines went for export, which is also gut.

[Al1977]

Quote: Temples

While retail in the hands of networks all efforts are down the drain

In your city, except for chains, there are no other shops and markets? What kind of city is this?

And let’s continue to buy tomatoes and potatoes over the hill.

A huge assortment of our potato tomato. I always take our potatoes and our or Azerbaijani tomatoes.
And whose potato are you buying? This is in which city of our potatoes you can’t buy?
Do you get up from the couch, then go to the shops?

Ali who doesn’t eat Chinese mushrooms and gherkins now?

I do not eat.

How lowered Russia !!!

We live in Russia, firstly, and not in Russia, for a very long time. Secondly, what prevents you from going to the cottage and planting potatoes and tomatoes. And raise Russia. how do you put it.

The answer to "Russia" has always been the same "3,14 * do not move the bears"

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Al1977

In your city, except for chains, there are no other shops and markets? What kind of city is this?

once again, small shops very often buy their goods from networkers, there are practically no markets for direct producers; now in the markets they sell goods bought in large warehouses in the same way

Quote: Al1977

We live in Russia, firstly, and not in Russia, for a very long time

fool around?

Quote: Al1977

The answer to "Russia" has always been the same "3,14 * do not move the bears"

you can see

[Al1977]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

once again, small shops very often buy their goods from networkers, there are practically no markets for direct producers; now in the markets they sell goods bought in large warehouses in the same way

Chain stores are business. Private business. He does not impose anything on anyone. Build food markets, trade directly. I personally stint in Auchan. Arrived and bought a week in advance. All in one place, with a trolley, not with a string bag, with air conditioning in the summer. With neatly laid out goods and so on. If people like you think this is evil, then don’t go there. In Moscow there are food bases. Take a dip there. Just do not teach others how to conduct business. Demand state stores from Putin and go there. And I will go to the enemy Auchan.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Al1977

Chain stores are business. Private business. He does not impose anything on anyone. Build food markets and trade directly.

fool around silt such a life?

Quote: Al1977

In Moscow there are food bases. Take a dip there

miracle, it’s like I live on earth and a little bit better than that

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Al1977

Demand state stores from Putin and go there.

apparently do not play the fool

[Achilles]

Quote: Al1977
A huge assortment of our potato tomato. I always take our potatoes and our or Azerbaijani tomatoes.
And whose potato are you buying? This is in which city of our potatoes you can’t buy?

Here I live in Volgograd, we have past chain stores, more fairs throughout the city where local farmers sell their grown products (potatoes, tomatoes, cucumbers, meat, milk, cheese, etc.) and there are still stalls throughout the city that sell local greenhouse products (tomatoes and cucumbers). And all these products are no more expensive than foreign ones, even a little cheaper. And there are bazaars, markets where you sell both foreign and domestic products. I don’t understand why you put Al1977 cons, he’s absolutely right, there are places where they sell domestic products, you just need to choose.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Temples

While retail is in the hands of networks, all efforts are down the drain.

as soon as Tuleyev decided to limit the trading allowances of networkers he was immediately shook hands
sometimes it seems to me that the FAS is in share with them

[anfil]

The authorities realized for a long time only on the ground it’s obvious that they are not moving very much, and much depends on the will of the leader and the execution of his decrees, how he will ask for implementation.
For example, the former president also seemed to be thinking in the right direction, but in the end?

[PHANTOM-AS]

Quote: anfil

For example, the former president also seemed to be thinking in the right direction, but in the end?

well, yes, this is also a "business executive" and a "prominent politician"


mdyaya

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: anfil

The authorities realized for a long time only on the ground it’s obvious that they are not moving very much, and much depends on the will of the leader and the execution of his decrees, how he will ask for implementation.
For example, the former president also seemed to be thinking in the right direction, but in the end?

You gave a very good example with Medvedev, because after reading the article, I immediately had a question - why did you just bother about it now, in 2016, after all, this is all obvious, primarily about the seed fund, and it turns out - the topic is battered for a long time. In general, solid populism for the elections, alas, with the same zero result, and it’s not Medvedev’s case at all

[PHANTOM-AS]

Quote: Aleksander

The purpose of the program is to fix it.

Gee-gee. All these conversations are only for raising a shaky rating. As they say, a new program has been released, to lay down not less than a kilogram.

Quote: Aleksander

Such a program, I hope, is evidence that the authorities, nevertheless, realized that the sanctions were in place for a long time and ceased to hope that through humiliating concessions they would be able to cancel them.

Enough of making nonsense about sanctions. There are no significant sanctions against the Russian Federation !!! This is a propaganda bugbear, replicated for the sake of worthless leaders. When the Westerners imposed sanctions on our close oligarchs, they cheated and announced anti-sanctions and enacted laws that compensate for the loss of large businessmen (sidekick oligarchs) at the expense of the state, this is aerobatics.
If the West ceases to supply us with seed, then the agricultural sector of the Russian Federation will have a quick kirdyk. . On livestock, the picture is the same, we have no livestock. This is all awesome at the weaver, but in fact in the Central Federal District the fields are covered with birch forests, now mushroom pickers are rummaging around there. For you, I repeat that a chicken comes from an egg, and our eggs become sour in the bones in Western banks.
Why not appoint sensible people to the government?

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: PHANTOM-AS

Why not appoint sensible people to the government?

because the system, I'm the boss - you're stupid, since another word does not allow censorship to be inserted)). The sensible person will stand out too much from the background of our tops, why should they?

[potroshenko]

Quote: Stirbjorn

The sensible person will stand out too much from the background of our tops, why should they?

But you choose them for 16 years.

[zvereok]

It happens, and our eggs in the ring in Western banks sour.
Why not appoint sensible people to the government?

Very good video. But Putin wasn’t in order to get rid of subsidies all the time of his reign in order to introduce grocery cards now, for pensioners or the poor.

The only thing that was correctly noted was that government assistance, in unlimited quantities from the moment the acute phase of the crisis began (and even earlier) and the devaluation of the ruble, went to banks. Any help to other sectors of the economy was also hidden assistance to banks to get extra. income.

Exceptions are friends, for example, those for the sake of which, for example, the ruble fell twice, and others. Take Miller - a law is passed on the payment of 50% of dividends on profits. It seems that everything is passed, the law is passed, if you want, do not want to pay, but no, we have those who are more equal, after some time Gazprom is excluded from this law.

[BARKAS]

Quote: Art777

And on earth, as agricultural holdings with western technologies, a seed and tribal fund ruled the ball, they will rule.

Who would doubt what else it would be to make Minister Tkachev.

[zvereok]

Quote: Art777
And on earth, as agricultural holdings with western technologies, a seed and tribal fund ruled the ball, they will rule.

Who would doubt what else it would be to make Minister Tkachev.

The support of the “father of Kondrat” ensured victory for the 40-year-old Tkachev in the first round with a result of 82,14% of the vote. Although at that time Tkachev, like Kondratenko, was a communist, he showed much more FLEXIBILITY.

By the way, who does not know Kondratenko - the governor of the Krasnodar Territory, before Tkachev.

[PHANTOM-AS]

Quote: zvereok

By the way, who does not know Kondratenko - the governor of the Krasnodar Territory, before Tkachev.

Kondratenko said later that he was seriously mistaken in this fit.

[bk316]

Quote: Art777

And on earth, as the agriholdings ruled the ball

So they will rule. What do you think The problem with the bird and the egg has been resolved?
Yes, and the same grain. Agricultural holdings simply have better performance.

[alexej123]

I agree with you on one condition - show in Russia a successful agricultural enterprise that does not use Western technology. I mean a complex enterprise, where plant growing, and animal husbandry, and fodder production, and product processing. There is simply no such thing, from the word ABSOLUTELY. ALL profitable agricultural enterprises in Russia to a greater or lesser extent use Western technology, and Western equipment, and imported seeds, and imported cattle. The question is to have your own modern equipment and your own modern technologies. We will follow your logic - we will be without a crop at all. Again we will purchase food products abroad.

[dmi.pris1]

It looks like another "Blah, blah ..." Another injection of money into nowhere-centers, seminars .. The policy needs to be changed, to remove intermediaries. To oblige retailers and suppliers, the price component must be tightly controlled .. Build greenhouses and farms, plant gardens .. Production agricultural machinery to develop, and then everywhere "Buller", "Kress" and everything else ..

[Top5]

Quote: dmi.pris

It looks like another "Blah, blah ..." Another injection of money into nowhere-centers, seminars .. The policy needs to be changed, to remove intermediaries. To oblige retailers and suppliers, the price component must be tightly controlled .. Build greenhouses and farms, plant gardens .. Production agricultural machinery to develop, and then everywhere "Buller", "Kress" and everything else ..

You want to say that our leader of the nation does not follow them? yes you are mistaken, he still controls them, he just has American spies in the country and they are in every way interfering with our president, but we will show the Americans if we start to act against them on the Internet.

Let's get rid of this intrusive and nerdy advertising on Military Review. If you have a Google Chrome browser or Firefox, then go to the browser extension store and install ublock origin and in its settings in the 2nd tab check all Rus Rus Rus.

[siberalt]

What have you been thinking about since 1998? Zyuganov has been repeating for a quarter of a century that farmland is overgrown with weeds, and now already with shrubs and forests. How many documentaries were made about this? What could be the development of agriculture without millions of peasants and thousands of villages that simply disappeared forever in a liberal economy!

[takeoff]

Now villages are more and more like cottages; for the most part, they have become a recreation area. Well, what else to say, if the rustic modern for parsley or dill go to the shops ...

[Beefeater]

Quote: siberalt

What have you been thinking about since 1998? Zyuganov has been repeating for a quarter of a century that farmland is overgrown with weeds, and now already with shrubs and forests. How many documentaries were made about this? What could be the development of agriculture without millions of peasants and thousands of villages that simply disappeared forever in a liberal economy!

I remember how the same-party Zyuganov Khrushchev famously chopped trees and fruit bushes and what happened to the livestock ... Mom do not worry, there was a scandal in Ryazan on this subject. Everything is natural with the approval of the Central Committee with the active participation of the lower party apparatus in general, there is no trust in the representatives of this party after all that they have done on earth

[Gardamir]

I remember how the same party Zyuganov Khrushchev

in this context, Zyuganov has many members of the same party. Just recently, one of them

signed a decree on the need to develop and approve a federal scientific and technical program for the development of agriculture for the next decade.

[Bramb]

Quote: siberalt

What have you been thinking about since 1998? Zyuganov has been repeating for a quarter of a century that farmland is overgrown with weeds, and now already with shrubs and forests. How many documentaries were made about this? What could be the development of agriculture without millions of peasants and thousands of villages that simply disappeared forever in a liberal economy!

A simple question: if everything is overgrown, then where does the full supply of meat, milk, wheat and other products come from? In terms of grain exports came out on top in the world?
If everything is overgrown, then where are the products from?
Learn not just to read and retell, but also to analyze a little more critically.

[tatra]

Quote: Bramb

A simple question: if everything is overgrown, then where does the full supply of meat, milk, wheat and other products come from?

Where did you see it? In sausage without meat, milk from palm oil, in meat with hormones, in the fact that in Russia two-thirds of cattle were destroyed after 1991 and the released grain is exported?
At high food prices for the people?
Is this an achievement?

[dmi.pris1]

Where does the meat come from? Find at least one cattle farm in the okrug .. Beef is a percentage of 90 imports. Pork, yes, there is domestic one. With milk, again, try to find a cow in the okrug, and you will understand, it's not ours. Our -This is only the figures for statistics and salaries of officials ..

Quote: Bramb

Quote: siberalt

What have you been thinking about since 1998? Zyuganov has been repeating for a quarter of a century that farmland is overgrown with weeds, and now already with shrubs and forests. How many documentaries were made about this? What could be the development of agriculture without millions of peasants and thousands of villages that simply disappeared forever in a liberal economy!

A simple question: if everything is overgrown, then where does the full supply of meat, milk, wheat and other products come from? In terms of grain exports came out on top in the world?
If everything is overgrown, then where are the products from?
Learn not just to read and retell, but also to analyze a little more critically.

[not main]

Quote: siberalt

What have you been thinking about since 1998? Zyuganov has been repeating for a quarter of a century that farmland is overgrown with weeds, and now already with shrubs and forests.

And why only since 1998? The collapse of agriculture began much earlier! And they began to ruin it even under the power of the CPSU! So Zyuganov can repeat anything, especially since speaking is much safer than doing something!

[Donhapa]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

life, taught us to be careful about “decrees”, “decrees” and “orders”, often the words of the Head shake the air, from the fluctuations of which, the officials “on the ground” are neither cold nor hot, but simply put, they the task is to get more for yourself, "lose" the next elections, and disappear from the field of vision of the state, "like in Bermuda, forever" (C).

Quote: Art777

Well, yes .. The commission, with a bunch of committees and subcommittees, with directors and managers, with the purchase of real estate and "equipment", with a bloated staff of secretaries, assistants, drivers, and a bunch of official cars, will probably be created in Moscow, or at the extreme in St. Petersburg. They will spend a certain amount of billions on this. And on earth, as agricultural holdings ruled the ball with Western technologies, seed and breeding fund, and will rule.

Quote: dmi.pris

It looks like another "Blah, blah ..." Another injection of money into nowhere-centers, seminars .. The policy needs to be changed, to remove intermediaries. To oblige retailers and suppliers, the price component must be tightly controlled .. Build greenhouses and farms, plant gardens .. Production agricultural machinery to develop, and then everywhere "Buller", "Kress" and everything else ..

As usual...
And as for the harvest, the grain is being driven for export. So I doubt that the price of grain in the country will decrease.

[PHANTOM-AS]

Quote: Donhapa

So I doubt that the price of grain in the country will decrease.

Last week, the GDP said that "a strong ruble is bad for our economy."
And now answer the question, who all the same lowered the rupe twice in the 14th year?
One word, speculative enemies!
And the president is pleased with the work of the government.

[Al1977]

Quote: PHANTOM-AS

And the president is pleased with the work of the government.

He is happy, but I am not. And the life we ​​have with the Presidents is very different, that he is "satisfied", then many Russians are dead.

[weksha50]

Quote: Donhapa

And as for the harvest, the grain is being driven for export. So I doubt that the price of grain in the country will decrease.

Hmm ... Specifically - bread is getting more expensive ... and doubly - the price is increasing, and the weight is decreasing ...
And the peasant does not have the main profit from this at all ...
It is strange somehow against the background of high yields ...

With merchants-dealers-there is absolutely no struggle ...

[Basarev]

Yeah. They ruined industry, consumed oil and gas, and now they are engaged in close farming.

[Ivan Ivanov]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

fade out of sight of the state

The previous program has given results, why won't the current one? Moreover, the conditions for "disappear and run away" have changed for the worse.

[Mountain shooter]

The state program is necessary, at least with the expectation that the "partners" will not calm down and will try to throw a "pig" at our agricultural producers. African swine fever, avian flu, something else will be developed in their laboratories. How to deal with such threats without government involvement? Our biological science is at its best. No wonder the "partners" sparkled so much when our vaccines against "Ebola" showed a 100% result!

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

No wonder the "partners" sparkled so much when our vaccines against "Ebola" showed a 100% result!

Still to crush the African plague, and since 2007 steps.

[Art777]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

The state program is necessary, at least with the expectation that the "partners" will not calm down and will try to throw a "pig" at our agricultural producers. African swine fever, avian flu, something else will be developed in their laboratories. How to deal with such threats without government involvement? Our biological science is at its best. No wonder the "partners" sparkled so much when our vaccines against "Ebola" showed a 100% result!

In our region, under this African plague, all private pig farming has been destroyed! And now only huge pig farms sell pork, without competitors in the market. So there will be no vaccines against this imaginary disease for another 100 years ..

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Art777

And now only huge pig farms sell pork, without competitors in the market.

Huge pig farms trade because their biological security system is not like that of Uncle Vasya in the yard. In general, in Ryazan, one of the complexes was completely destroyed, in Moscow, too, in Tverskaya. And the destruction of our pig production is in the hands of foreign competitors.

[Art777]

Yes, everything is clear about styling, veterinary surveillance, etc. .. It is embarrassing that the African plague appeared just when these very pig-breeding complexes started to start or finished building.
And the meat is tasteless now, as if you chew cotton. Not compare with what I took from a neighbor a butcher, from whom all kinds of uncles Vasya were suppliers ..

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Art777

It is embarrassing that the African plague appeared just when these very pig-breeding complexes started to start or finished building.

It is embarrassing that ASF appeared when Russia began to provide itself with pork, namely from Chechnya, from the border with Georgia, where the American biolaboratory is located.

[Art777]

In general, I tell you about the unscrupulous business of apostle with bureaucracy, and you tell me about a world conspiracy ...

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Art777

In general, I tell you about the unscrupulous business of apostle with bureaucracy

Officials and business are a separate issue, simply speaking about the state approach, a pig farm for 30000 heads is much more important for the country's food security than ten pigs in a neighboring village, no matter how offensive it is for an individual villager.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Vladimirets

, a pig farm with 30000 heads is much more important for the country's food security than ten pigs in a neighboring village, no matter how offensive it is for an individual villager.

the village will die ...

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

the village will die ...

I don’t have fun from this, I live in the village myself, but the townspeople have to feed someone, the peasant with one pig in the stable does not feed the city.

[bk316]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

the village will die ...

He will die, but what will the majority of the population in cities do, who will feed them?
A peasant with 2 pigs and one cow for three, or an agricultural holding worker raising 500 pigs?
This is inevitable because it has already happened. A village in the non-black soil died not even in the 90s, but in the 70s and 80s.

We need to think about something else, that would close production cycles, that would produce seeds and young animals themselves.

[S-kerrigan]

So let it die - you need to step further up the development chains. Now, a conditional 50% of the country's population living in villages will give Russia death. No ordinary peasant is needed, that's all, this is the last century. Now we need a fur brigade. We need automated systems.

* Under Tomsk there is a greenhouse-hydroponics for greens. Less than 50 people work in total. And it gives a serious exhaust.

[bk316]

Quote: Art777

It is embarrassing that the African plague appeared just then,

I wanted to write, but Vladimir has already answered you.
I note only that you made a mistake in the quarantine zone in the Shakhovskoy area for 15 years.

[alexej123]

Colleague Vladimirimets is right, the mass manifestation of ASF in Russia began exactly after the events of August 2008. The first signs were wild cattle in the border area with Georgia.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

like this, Putin and Ponomarev talk about our meat production:[center] just information, without background.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Ponomarev:

[Donhapa]

Quote: Art777

Quote: Mountain Shooter

The state program is necessary, at least with the expectation that the "partners" will not calm down and will try to throw a "pig" at our agricultural producers. African swine fever, avian flu, something else will be developed in their laboratories. How to deal with such threats without government involvement? Our biological science is at its best. No wonder the "partners" sparkled so much when our vaccines against "Ebola" showed a 100% result!

In our region, under this African plague, all private pig farming has been destroyed! And now only huge pig farms sell pork, without competitors in the market. So there will be no vaccines against this imaginary disease for another 100 years ..

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

State program needed

not only a "program" is needed, but also strict control over execution, and, accordingly, severe punishment for the negligent, otherwise empty ...

[yuriy55]

[quote = andrei yurievich] not only the "program" is needed ... / quote]

The main thing is to find people who have a desire to carry out such a program ... The most interesting thing in the food program is the introduction of GOSTs (similar to the USSR) or new standards under which products manufactured at enterprises will not only correspond to their name, but will also become tasty and healthy ...

[Banishing liberoids]

Now the government has a new smut, how can this program be quickly, painlessly for itself, lawfully, if possible, to pohag and ruin? After all, our libertost cannot allow the country to provide itself to everyone - then just stealing money will be much more difficult and dangerous than when everyone pulls from behind a hill.

[Al1977]

Quote: Exorcist Liberoids

Now the government has a new smut, how can this program be quickly, painlessly for itself, lawfully, if possible, to pohag and ruin? After all, our libertost cannot allow the country to provide itself to everyone - then just stealing money will be much more difficult and dangerous than when everyone pulls from behind a hill.

Exorcising the liberoids, I will learn. that you have only liberoids in your head. and that they are all around and you hunt them like Pokemon. But I want to understand, who will be harder to steal in the Government? And why all of a sudden? And aren't all liberoids in the government making all decisions? If not, then who?

[populist]

Ah, here's another question ...
Where will the funding come from?
There is a hole in the budget, and managers say that there is no money ...

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: populist

Ah, here's another question ...
Where will the funding come from?
There is a hole in the budget, and managers say that there is no money ...

will introduce new taxes ...

[weksha50]

Quote: populist

There is a hole in the budget, and managers say that there is no money ...

The main thing is not to interfere, not to harm the peasants who were still alive and in business ...

No money ???
In commercial banks - full ... And this is NOT THEIR personal money, as a rule ...
The government has long been able - if desired - to create a mechanism that would interest the CB to give loans to peasants ...

And then for a car or a consumer loan - they give it easily, but for the peasant - they will find a bunch of reasons for refusal ...

[askort154]

There are shifts, there are. I have a cottage in the village, 60 km from Tyumen. In the late 90s there was a terrible picture.
All the fields along the roads are overgrown with weeds, there is little equipment and that is "killed". Now there is a completely different landscape. Not a single unkempt field, all modern, powerful, imported equipment and ours. If in Soviet times everyone was expelled for harvesting: from schoolchildren to candidates of science, enterprises were given personal tasks and they populated the fields like ants (it was called " battle for the harvest! "), now there is not a single" wandering fighter for the harvest "on the fields, only equipment. Progress is clear!

[Makk]

There are shifts, there are. I have a cottage in the village, 60 km from Tyumen. In the late 90s there was a terrible picture.
All the fields along the roads are overgrown with weeds, there is little equipment and that is "killed". Now a completely different landscape. Not a single unkempt field, all modern, powerful, imported equipment and ours. If in Soviet times everyone was expelled for harvesting: from schoolchildren to candidates of science, enterprises were given personal tasks and they settled the fields like ants, it was called " battle for the harvest! ", but now there is not a single" wandering soldier for the harvest "on the fields, only equipment. Progress is clear!

Apparently getting ready to peel off an oil needle. Feed without oil?

[Hunt]

Hello fellow countrymen! I do not agree about the progress. Three large Tyumen owners killed all small producers, bought land shares for nothing, and with state support they stay afloat. And a little further 60km, the same devastation as it was. The situation in the Sverdlovsk region (Tavdinsky, Taborinsky, Irbitsky pH) and in the Kurgan region is even worse.

[S-kerrigan]

This is progress, as it were. Because first: agricultural in developed countries is subsidized. Second: a small private trader does more harm than good. Strength in size. One agricultural holding will give many times more predictable and stable exhaust than a hundred villagers. New technologies give greater exhaust to the same area - you can no longer plow everything that is available.
21st century, as it were. Not the 19th.

[zvereok]

He always feeds himself a peasant, therefore it is difficult to control him. Putin systematically killed what he cannot control or lead, for example, small business (entrepreneurs, small shops, markets and bazaars), the opposition, which he has either fed, or marginalized through the media and hardware capabilities. Well, the same media that are at 99% under the control of the authorities. There is nothing to say about the judiciary - at least recall Serdyuchka and Serdyukov. Various reforms of the police and other law enforcement agencies, where words of service to the people disappeared from their goals of activity, and attributed to the protection of the current state. system. He pulled under himself the Central Bank, which violated the constitution by devaluing the ruble, while pouring trillions of banks. Most likely they will change the constitution, but after 2018 of the year. In general, a lot of bad things are going on.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: askort154

All the fields along the roads are overgrown with weeds, there is little equipment and that is "killed". Now the landscape is completely different: not a single unkempt field, all modern, powerful equipment, imported and ours.

lucky for you ... and we still have ... trees in the former fields. (Sverdlovsk region)

[parusnik]

The main thing is to do without the influence of the “genius” of eHelective managers who consider any type of security (including food) from the point of view of the probability of exclusively personal enrichment ..... But how can we do without them ... In the Krasnodar Territory, as soon as the competitors of Agrocomplex (Tkachev), the livestock increased, the "African plague" suddenly came .. and tough measures were taken against the competitors .. butcher .. cattle ... Now Tkachev is minister ...

[Al1977]

Quote: parusnik

The main thing is to do without the influence of the "genius" of eHEVective managers who consider any type of security (including food) from the point of view of the probability of exclusively personal enrichment .....

Why so intricate, just name the last name. Who do you mean?

[parusnik]

And what are you not written in bold, read?

[Xmyp]

I have been hearing plans about the "agricultural locomotive of the Russian economy" and agriculture for 20 years already.
The same noodles every 5-10 years constantly pouring into the ears of the people.

[ando_bor]

This year Russia took the first place in the world in grain export, overtaking the USA and Canada, animal husbandry is growing, agricultural growth has largely compensated for the fall in GDP due to lower commodity prices, and the whining is still standing, they all collapsed.
They destroyed it somewhere, "swamps are not plowed" now, by order of the party and government.

[weksha50]

Quote: ando_bor

This year Russia took the first place in the world in grain export, overtaking the USA and Canada, animal husbandry is growing, agricultural growth has largely compensated for the fall in GDP due to lower commodity prices, and the whining is still standing, they all collapsed.

Unfortunately, the majority of VO visitors not only read statistical reports and laudatory reviews, but also really live in the country, they really see everything with their own eyes and feel with their own hands ...

And there is no whining, but people worry about their country ...

[Al1977]

Quote: ando_bor

This year Russia took the first place in the world in grain export, overtaking the USA and Canada, animal husbandry is growing, agricultural growth has largely compensated for the fall in GDP due to lower commodity prices, and the whining is still standing, they all collapsed.
They destroyed it somewhere, "swamps are not plowed" now, by order of the party and government.

How it affected food prices, wages, pensions and the general level of the economy. Why are we still "looking for the bottom" then?

[Verdun]

Quote: XmyP

I have been hearing plans about the "agricultural locomotive of the Russian economy" and agriculture for 20 years already.
The same noodles every 5-10 years constantly pouring into the ears of the people.

It is hoped that agriculture can become the locomotive of the Russian economy, not just a utopia, but a crime in relation to this economy. On the one hand, there are many countries where natural and climatic conditions make farming more profitable than in Russia. On the other hand, the development of agriculture itself will never become a locomotive industry until tractors, combines, seeders - in short, all equipment for its management - will be purchased abroad.

This year Russia took the first place in the world in grain export, overtaking the USA and Canada,

But does the market need this grain in such a volume? Is someone ready to buy it at a normal price? Or are we, as with metals, will dump again, if only to buy?

[AlNikolaich]

In our region, due to African swine fever, it has already been decided to reduce the wild boar population ... Although no one has seen this amount in the eyes! As a rule, plague appears abruptly in those areas where a new pig breeding complex is launched, such as "Ramfood-Povolzhye" or "Khvalynsky". And it begins with the extermination of the population of pigs! It is not known what the pigs are fed at the complexes, the feed is imported, nothing is purchased from local farmers, the complexes do not have their fields, they do not produce feed! A bit strange, isn't it ?!
On the other hand, in the Volga region, farmers are keen on growing grain. The process is highly mechanized, requires a small number of personnel (people are a terrible shortage). Many, in addition to cereals, are engaged in dairy farming. In large farms, mainly. Although the volume of the order of two thousand heads per farm. Although in the USSR, according to eyewitnesses, on the same collective farms there were six thousand or ten thousand!

[Vladimirets]

Quote: AlNikolaich

Although in the USSR, according to eyewitnesses, on the same collective farms there were six thousand or ten thousand!

I don’t know how it is in the Volga region, but in the center of milk production now, on average, is twice as high as in the USSR.

[Gardamir]

two times higher on average

figures in the studio. however, with shops, it’s not milk, but a surrogate.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Gardamir

two times higher on average

figures in the studio. however, with shops, it’s not milk, but a surrogate.

but IT does not sour for weeks!

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Gardamir

figures in the studio.

Practically everywhere, feeding norms, free grazing and the lack of selection on state farms, as such, were not respected.
Offhand http://www.kleverkirov.ru/index.php/novosti/mestnye-novosti/1009-vysokie-nadoi-l
uchshij-podarok
“Today we can safely say that the main task of increasing the efficiency of agricultural production has been fulfilled by the work collective of“ Garsky ”headed by the head. And this is evidenced by the control figures: if in 1989 the annual milk yield per cow was 3 kilograms of milk, then in 537 it was already 2013 8 kg! "
More: http: //dic.academic.ru/dic.nsf/ruwiki/1372348
"The years of the IX Five-Year Plan (1971-1975) were especially successful: grain crops up to 40 centners per hectare, milk yield over 5 thousand kg of milk from a cow."
"By the spring of 2009, the collective farm had 440 cows of the Yaroslavl breed, which for the third year in a row gave more than 6000 kg of milk (in 2008 - 6459 kg, the fourth place in the Yaroslavl region"

[Fox]

ohhh ... the money-gatherers will raise. more and the chubs will be pulled up. greenhouses ... in the Samara region they are protected by a certain Sazonov, from the State Duma, there are Ketais working there. Fertilizers are brought in wagons from Ketai. white land becomes ...
that year, the program was about supporting those who sow grain. this summer everything was sown with sunflower-rolled government ...
in short, I don’t believe it! I live in the village, I see what and how.

[silverwolf88]

We must learn to feed ourselves ... we have large territories ... huge areas of arable land ... with the correct regionalization of crops (wheat in Altai and Krasnodar ... and flax in the Tver and Ivanovo regions ...) the wide development of domestic science Russia will ensure full food security for itself ... And of course, protecting our domestic market from external supplies (including compliance with all environmental and safety standards) and strict rules for the use of arable land (state control and supervision)

[Verdun]

Quote: silberwolf88

We must learn to feed ourselves ... we have large territories ...

Himself - yes, of course. But about "feeding others" ... I do not believe that in the world market someone needs our meat, potatoes and cucumbers. And there is no point in selling them for a penny to buy "Christ's Sake". You cannot improve your industry with such a locomotive. At the same time, all these talks about raising agriculture are still more like an excuse for agricultural land to be dismantled from the hands of the right people in about the same way as the factories were dismantled in the nineties. After all, not collective farms will raise, but create agricultural holdings with very specific owners.

[user3970]

Well, when the s \ x was appointed to "steer" the weaver-partner in crime, I am calm. When the head of the Moscow Regional Department of Internal Affairs, Golovin, "retired", he "suddenly" had a personal fortune of $ 87 million. To the correspondent's question: "Where does the money come from, Zin?" He did not hesitate to answer: "I have been in the organs for 43 years. I have earned money." Why the hell did an official-governor Tkachev "suddenly" become the largest latifundist, landowner in Europe? It is clear that weavers have matured in the same garbage dump as Gorbachev. Who appoints governors who "suddenly" ALL turn out to be embezzlers (if someone else from the appointed has not been imprisoned, this is a flaw in the organs). What are the local presidential representatives doing? Are they building new fur stores? And AOZT FSB? I understand that it is mentally easier and more comfortable for a former yard boy from St. Petersburg to communicate with his own kind. I can imagine a conversation between GDP and Perelman or Wasserman. Without words ... On the one hand, Lukashenko (the former chairman of the collective farm), on the other - shuvalov, dvorkovich, ladies and others like that ... There are no points of contact, for conversation. Well, who will or will be able to deal with agriculture or production at the top? Are there professionals there? So all this will go off to the president's whistle.

[Lord_Bran]

Quote: Temples

While retail is in the hands of networks, all efforts are down the drain.

Yes, we will sell grain.

And let’s continue to buy tomatoes and potatoes over the hill.
This, as they say, do not go to the grandmother.

The approach should be comprehensive.
From production to sales, not forgetting about recycling.
If all this is returned to the inhabitants of the village, then there will be good.
And if the bureaucrats (as is happening now) build up regular farms for their state money or continue to hand over land to the Chinese, then all this garbage.


Ali who doesn’t eat Chinese mushrooms and gherkins now?

How lowered Russia !!!

This is not the point) The fact is that prices will not fall, since it is not profitable either to the manufacturer, or to the reseller, or to the retailer.

[Million]

Something is poorly believed in an early correction of the situation in agriculture. The current government (with rare exceptions) is not capable of effective action.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Million

Something is poorly believed in an early correction of the situation in agriculture. The current government (with rare exceptions) is not capable of effective action.

one of my fishing acquaintances, a grandfather of about 80 years old, lack of bite, always explains simply: the fish have no "move" ... (just damn it, like our government ...)

[Vadim237]

Our agriculture is developing much better than other industries.

[Al1977]

Quote: Vadim237

Our agriculture is developing much better than other industries.

Were a gas station, now we will be a garden. Awesome role in the world.
While the world makes iPhones and cloud services, we learned to dig potatoes.
I’ll definitely go and vote for Putin and iPhone. Clear boys lead the right course.

[Al1977]

Quote: Million

Something is poorly believed in an early correction of the situation in agriculture. The current government (with rare exceptions) is not capable of effective action.

But the population does not think so and the government rating is over 50%, not to mention the President.

[Verdun]

Quote: Al1977

But the population does not think so and the government rating is over 50%, not to mention the President.

Do you eat ratings?

[Al1977]

Quote: Verdun

Quote: Al1977

But the population does not think so and the government rating is over 50%, not to mention the President.

Do you eat ratings?

We are about evaluating the course of the president and the government. And you?

[Verdun]

Quote: Al1977

We are about evaluating the course of the president and the government. And you?

A course is something specific. Moreover, if we take our state system at the current moment, then the government should chart this course, and the president should monitor its compliance. At the same time, I personally can’t understand in which direction our government is heading. Perhaps because of his mental retardation. And if you can still argue about the president’s rating, then speaking about 50% of the population supporting the government’s course, it would be nice to refer to specific sources. In this case, in any case, neither the course nor the rating will not be full. And the ideas about the development of agriculture announced in the article are not inherently ideas. So, a set of high-profile phrases.

[weksha50]

"Plans, they say, a lot"...

The main thing is that they are executed ...

It’s good that we took up the issues of creating our own seed and livestock breeding stock ... But it’s a shame to say - we buy seeds abroad ... And, most likely, some genetically modified ones from which you can’t create a normal seed stock ...

And in terms of grains last year, and already in this, the successes are impressive ... Moreover, Russia already occupies, if I remember correctly, already 16% in grain exports ... By the way, the USA is furious about this factor .. .

Something was bashfully circumvented by the issue of providing preferential targeted and non-targeted loans to farmers and agribusiness enterprises, lowering the prices for fuel and lubricants or some kind of compensation from the state ... The same applies to electricity ...
And then at the beginning of the 2000s there was a program of preferential loans, but somehow everything quietly died out ...
Now, every week, commercial banks (2-3 each) are deprived of their licenses ... And this is a scarecrow for KB: if you don’t give a soft loan to a peasant, you get problems ...

The peasants need help, while stimulating a desire for production ... But control over the funds is necessary, not stupid and extorting, but real and fair ...

Do not forget that the product component is one of the main components of state security ....

[Bramb]

In order not to respond separately to Fantomas, Andrei, Sybiraltam and others, who are clearly not in the subject at all, but who have an opinion, I will describe the situation briefly.
So, myths and lies.
1. "Everything is overgrown with weeds"
Lies. Now agricultural is much more productive than in Soviet times. For example, there were cows of breed meat and dairy. Those. For 10 years this cow gave 3 liters of milk, then they chopped it. Now the breeds are meat and dairy. Those. one cow in 10 years will produce 3-10 times more milk and 5-10 times more meat over the same period of time with the same labor costs. At the same time, plowing and mowing and generally eating should be less at times!
The same pigs or goats are now thoroughbred, not anyhow, as it was in Soviet times. The situation is the same.
The townspeople see the village only from the car window, but in the summer cottages. And there and there is no agricultural! You cannot see him that way.
2. "The peasantry has been destroyed, it must be revived."
This is not even a lie, but bullshit! For this, you must immediately drive a 150 nail into the head!
How many townspeople see the peasantry? A village in which men plow the land, and in the distance a shepherd of cows grazes. Idyll! If this is not the case, the peasantry is destroyed. ))))) Forget it !!! Now the walk is calculated, many are not even recommended to walk. Therefore, such a picture should not be in 90% of cases.
No need to revive! It is necessary to build a new agricultural system. She, by the way, is already there. Today, agricultural equipment is needed for farming. It is expensive. and without it, nowhere, for it will turn out too expensive and not enough. Therefore, no peasants, but only large farms and agricultural holdings!
3. "Everything is gone."
Partly true. There is no seed fund and there are very few breeding farms. Both are there, but are not controlled by the state in private hands. This needs to be fixed. Well, and still tax regulation and support of our agricultural prohibitive import duties (well, there are still methods). The rest of the peasants (relatively speaking) will do everything themselves. Already done: are you starving? ))))

[tatra]

Quote: Bramb

Now agricultural is much more productive,

You, the enemies of the Communists, not only in agriculture, but in everything else for a quarter of a century in the republics of the USSR you have seized, are all the same — the results of Soviet labor, the export of natural resources, the import of goods, products and means of production, the results the labor of foreigners who create industry, infrastructure for you, and extract natural resources.

[tatra]

Quote: Bramb

Now agricultural is much more productive,

You, the enemies of the Communists, not only in agriculture, but in everything else for a quarter of a century in the republics of the USSR you have seized, are all the same — the results of Soviet labor, the export of natural resources, the import of goods, products and means of production, the results the labor of foreigners who create industry, infrastructure for you, and extract natural resources.

[Kudrevkn]

As for milk, I agree with you, but for meat (... and meat 5-10 times more over the same period of time ...)? Or is this cow a "lizard", which has two new legs instead of a cut off? Or a cow - "mother heroine": every three months (quarter) gives birth to 2-3 calves? I cannot find any other explanation for your words! However, with your fundamental conclusion "" IT IS NECESSARY TO BUILD A NEW AGRICULTURAL SYSTEM "I completely AGREE! Thank you!

[tatra]

Quote: KudrevKN

As for milk, I agree with you,

About milk in Russia is a disaster. If in the RSFSR in 1991 milk production amounted to 55 million, in post-Soviet Russia there was a maximum of 33 million tons of milk per year, and now 30 million tons.

[Al1977]

Quote: tatra

Quote: KudrevKN

As for milk, I agree with you,

About milk in Russia is a disaster. If in the RSFSR in 1991 milk production amounted to 55 million, in post-Soviet Russia there was a maximum of 33 million tons of milk per year, and now 30 million tons.

Where are the numbers from?
Here are the official data:
"In the first half of 2015, milk production in agricultural organizations increased by 2,4% and amounted to more than 7,5 million tons.

[bk316]

Quote: Al1977

Where are the numbers from?

Because neither you nor tatra nor horseradish understand what you are writing about.
I already said that you need to be a specialist to discuss this.

A hint for you - it's all about the phrase "in agricultural organizations"

[bk316]

Quote: KudrevKN

As for milk, I agree with you, but for meat

About 10 times more if you worked in animal husbandry - you immediately understood, although it is inaccurately written here.

I explain a cow of meat and dairy breed at first it will be 3 years just to eat food, then 10 years to give milk, then it will be slaughtered. The meat calf will be slaughtered by the third year. Plus, on free pasture, food is really needed 2-3 times more, because they trample primitively. Well, if you multiply it turns out every 10 times the difference.


With regard to large-horned meat, we are not particularly successful; there are pigs. You will not meet pigs on free pasture. Therefore, going to the dacha from the window of a car of magnificent puddles herds do not expect to meet.

[Makk]

One per item.

[PHANTOM-AS]

Quote: Bramb

In order not to respond separately to Fantomas, Andrei, Sybiraltam and others, who are clearly not in the subject at all, but who have an opinion, I will describe the situation briefly.

Quote: Bramb

For this, you must immediately drive a 150 nail into the head!

And what is it, come, we will try to score
Take more nails and start.
Before the rest, indicated by the respected members of the forum, I strongly apologize, since my name is indicated first, therefore, my right and "first night".

Quote: Bramb

3. "Everything is gone."
Partly true. No seed stock and pedigree farms

One only VO understands everything in agriculture, writes a long treatise for schoolchildren III, hallelujah, agrees in the third paragraph.
Then why all this vyser about:

Quote: Bramb

Now agricultural is much more productive than in Soviet times. For example, there were cows of breed meat and dairy. Those. For 10 years this cow gave 3 liters of milk, then they chopped it. Now the breeds are meat and dairy. Those. one cow in 10 years will produce 3-10 times more milk and 5-10 times more meat over the same period of time with the same labor costs

I explain to you, as a person "close" to the agricultural, until you become like a hedgehog from nails, sho if you stuff chickens with antibiotics, then after 2 months, instead of full six, you can sell them as "purest" farm meat already "grown" chicken.
The same crap in all positions. Or will you pour me ears about honest Russian farmers? Or about cheap feed? Or maybe about cheap diesel fuel?
Do not expose yourself smarter than others, then, perhaps, you really will pass for an intelligent and competent brow.
And it turns out, a lot of stink, a lot of flies -This is Winnie-the-Pooh died, no puffs, no squirrels - you only have a mountain of rotten sawdust, you are ours

[Verdun]

Quote: Bramb

So, myths and lies.

I am always delighted when people who have never seen this kind of agriculture come to debunk the "myths" about agriculture. There was such an anecdote back in Soviet times:
The party committee secretary comes to the collective farm and goes on an excursion through the fields, passing out TSU along the way. Behind him on a half-bent collective farm chairman and, in a crowd, the collective farmers themselves. Approach the first field. Secretary is interested in:
- And what does it grow here?
- Wheat. - the chairman answers.
- But if I planted a radish between it, I would have been in the harvest! - says the secretary.
Collective farmers in shock. The delegation follows. Reach the next field.
- Well, what about you? - the guest is curious.
- Potato! - the chairman answers.
- But if you planted a salad in between, there would have been a crop! - utters the guest and follows. Stunned farmers behind him. Stops at the next field.
- Well, then what?
- Beets!
- But if you sow cabbage in between, there will be a crop!
Then an old grandfather in an alcoholic T-shirt on the straps approaches the capital guest and extends his hand in front of his nose.
- See, son, what kind of hair? - the grandfather shows on an unshaven armpit.
“Well ...” the secretary mumbles.
- But if I were to tie two eggs here, I would have got a member ...

[ML-334]

Bramd, dear You are our Martian, it’s good for you on Mars, but peasants in the villages died of surrogate drinking. There’s no one to bury, they are hiring copals from the district center, it’s good for you there. Explain to me stupid what happened to meat, during the USSR, the yellow fat in the broth was floating all white now, all the bread was crumbs. The cattle was drained, we sold grain and we were proud.

[Verdun]

Quote: ML-334

You are our Martian, good to you on Mars,

It's just that your villages are different. One has some Mendyuki, and for the other, Barvikha is also a village.

[Kudrevkn]

As VIL used to say: "The agrarian question for peasant Russia, comrades, is of paramount importance!" But if you look at this Decree through the "prism" of the Medvedev-Dvorkovich Program for the Development of the Agro-Industrial Complex - 2020 and the election article of the GDP on the same "peasant" issues (May orders), then the result is actually already a foregone conclusion - the dung heap behind the collective farm bath will be larger: And did the gentlemen - ministers, as the same genius of VIL used to say, "go the other way", that is, reorganize (privatize) the entire agricultural sector of the country in RAO "Agroprom - Holding" by analogy with PJSC Gazprom Holding or Rosneft, or RAO EU, or RAO RZD? The ministry and its regional structures on the ground should not regulate the "timing of planting spring crops", "how many centners per hectare the French collect on the Champs Elysees", "how many piglets one sow can give birth and" raise "," how many laying hens should sit per meter in a poultry cage ", etc.

[chunga-changa]

With one hand, GMOs are completely prohibited, with the other hand they think how to overcome the consequences of this, some kind of circus on horses.

[Al1977]

Quote: chunga-changa

With one hand, GMOs are completely prohibited, with the other hand they think how to overcome the consequences of this, some kind of circus on horses.

No one completely prohibits GMOs.

[chunga-changa]

It is completely forbidden to grow GMO plants.

[Lyubopyatov]

Down with the capitalist ministers! Give the domestic government! Rating presidium-in the historical museum!

[Fox]

then the thought joked: maybe the GDP is preparing a feed for a whole brood of "respected people" with this program? well, as with the road levy PLATO, and the collection for "major repairs." then the loot can also be cut forever.

[Old warrior]

If with agriculture. everything will turn out well, the idea will not be ditched in the bud - we can turn the whole world on anything and any way.

[Old warrior]

That is, someone does not want Russia to flourish. Where then is the minus? Enemies of the people on the site? I wonder why the respondents are anonymous?

[ando_bor]

Enemies of the people are present on the network at any more or less popular site, a powerful attack on Russia is underway, including an information one, they are not particularly allowed on TV. At the lower levels there are commentators, these are mainly Ukrainian youth, they can be clearly seen, although they are dull but very cheap, for 100-200 bucks it will be a good month to spoil.
Well, of course, they will not work here, of course, they will play on patriotic notes, cling to real problems - the Ukrainians jumped against real swindlers and thieves.

[Forever so]

So the president took up the agro-industrial complex. And what the hell is the prime lawyer doing with his cabinet of economists? Sit and wait for an increase in oil prices ??. After all, agro-industrial and industrial complexes are the prerogative of the government and personally the prime minister, and not the president. on the president and so the whole foreign policy of the country. Although the President here recently recently appointed the prime lawyer as his beloved wife. so you should not expect any special achievements from the agro-industrial complex, well, if only they will sell them to lovely other partners.

[Makk]

So the president took up the agro-industrial complex. And what the hell is the prime lawyer doing with his cabinet of economists? Sit and wait for an increase in oil prices ??. After all, agro-industrial and industrial complexes are the prerogative of the government and personally the prime minister, and not the president. on the president and so the whole foreign policy of the country. Although the President here recently recently appointed the prime lawyer as his beloved wife. so you should not expect any special achievements from the agro-industrial complex, well, if only they will sell them to lovely other partners.

Indeed: the president undertook, but what does the prime minister do? Nii doesn’t understand anything ...... overshoot: hold on there.

[Mentat]

Quote: Art777

Well, yes .. The commission, with a bunch of committees and subcommittees, with directors and managers, with the purchase of real estate and "equipment", with a bloated staff of secretaries, assistants, drivers, and a bunch of official cars, will probably be created in Moscow, or at the extreme in St. Petersburg. They will spend a certain amount of billions on this. And on earth, as agricultural holdings ruled the ball with Western technologies, seed and breeding fund, and will rule.

Yes, you are just a futurist. Your motto is by chance not to "hide behind a white sheet and slowly crawl into the cemetery"?

If you don't believe in anything, don't strive for anything, expect nothing, what kind of existence is this? Not even vegetable - plants, as it turned out, are able to experience positive emotions.

Hopeless negative fatalism is not a Russian mentality, this is alien to us.

[Mentat]

Quote: Old Warrior

That is, someone does not want Russia to flourish. Where then is the minus? Enemies of the people on the site? I wonder why the respondents are anonymous?

There are enough of them. Including masquerade as Stalinists, Communists, patriots and scribble comments that denigrate Russia, minus objectionable. Even articles like these are slipping. Recently there was an article allegedly about tank biathlon, but in essence, its meaning is “Russia escalates militaristic hysteria” (quote). In general, a classic: be vigilant.

[Makk]

Including masquerade as Stalinists, Communists, patriots and scribble comments that denigrate Russia, minus objectionable.

Here is a real patriot (there is also about agriculture)

[Resistance]

Quote: Art777

Well, yes .. The commission, with a bunch of committees and subcommittees, with directors and managers, with the purchase of real estate and "equipment", with a bloated staff of secretaries, assistants, drivers, and a bunch of official cars, will probably be created in Moscow, or at the extreme in St. Petersburg. They will spend a certain amount of billions on this. And on earth, as agricultural holdings ruled the ball with Western technologies, seed and breeding fund, and will rule.

There is nothing to blame for Peter, we are building a stadium, is there enough of the 21st century? I doubt it ...

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

There is a need to study the organization of markets for agricultural products, as well as food obtained after processing agricultural products.

first of all, it is necessary to limit the appetites of traders, today speculators (this is what they call it) make more profit than those who produce agricultural products, the purchase price for milk is 12 rubles
in addition, until there are no subsidies (real) for agricultural products, there will be no sense in domestic products, they will not be able to compete, or it will be the suragate that is now sold in stores

[Al1977]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

First of all, you need to limit the appetites of traders

How. Come to the store and tell the director what the price should be?
Like 5% will be enough for you? But there are many shops and markets, and the buyer chooses the ruble. What prevents you from going to speculators?
Or open your own store and trade at fair prices ???? !!!!
Will we also buy cars at the price I like?
You know how unfair the price of apartments in Moscow is? 6 million for maaalenkoy kopeck piece. This is true? I will tell you more, but s / n Sechin is fair?
Conclusion. We live in an unfair world. Dissatisfied - build your communism in a single village / collective farm.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Al1977

How. Come to the store and tell the director what the price should be?
Like 5% will be enough for you?

namely, limit trade margins

Quote: Al1977

But there are many shops and markets, and the buyer chooses the ruble.

what you do not choose, you buy EVERYTHING in chain stores

Quote: Al1977

What prevents you from going to speculators?

the problem in the most chain stores you have NO CHOICE, often even in a small store you buy the goods that they buy in the warehouses of networkers

Quote: Al1977

Conclusion. We live in an unfair world. Dissatisfied - build your communism in a single village / collective farm.

Well, stupidity and exaggeration is not a solution to the problem

[Al1977]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

namely, limit trade margins

I repeat. What prevents you from opening a store and working at 1% -5% profit?
What do you think, what rate of return say in Auchan? I suppose you think 200%.

what you do not choose, you buy EVERYTHING in chain stores

I buy where it is convenient and the product suits me. I don’t break off and go to the market.

the problem in the most chain stores you have NO CHOICE, often even in a small store you buy the goods that they buy in the warehouses of networkers

You put the blame for your small income on stores. As they say, it is necessary that there would be no rich people, and that there would be no poor people.

namely, limit trade margins

And you never answered, why only in grocery? Where do you work? Maybe at your work to limit the production, well, a little s / h a little squeeze. For the country it will only benefit.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Al1977

I repeat. What prevents you from opening a store and working at 1% -5% profit?
What do you think, what rate of return say in Auchan? I suppose you think 200%.

I don’t think, unlike you, a hamster, I know how prices are formed and most importantly I know purchase prices, you will be surprised but beyond Moscow there is life by the way the price of milk in Auchan is 358 percent of the purchase from the manufacturer

Quote: Al1977

You put the blame for your small income on stores. As the saying goes, it is necessary that there wouldn’t be rich people, but that there wouldn’t be poor people

Do you know how subsidized CX in Europe? !!!
if I’m a fool to cook CX products at a real price, you’ll eat soles, a specialist, damn it at prices, you want to eat tasty food but you don’t need hamsters .. for those who feed you

Quote: Al1977

And you never answered, why only in grocery? Where do you work? Maybe at your work to limit the production, well, a little s / h a little squeeze. For the country it will only benefit.

because unlike you, the office hamster, I write about what I know about, I breed goats, I sell meat and dairy products

Quote: Al1977

Maybe at your work to limit the production, well, a little s / h a little squeeze. For the country it will only benefit.

no problem if the antimonopoly committee does this, then I agree, I just think that you can’t see the meat like your ears, even with Moscow salaries

[Roman 11]

Quote: Persistence

Nothing to blame for Peter, we are building a stadium

Gradsky had a rock opera.
They even compose songs about him - And we don’t dream rumble the stadium - The anthem of the modern corrupt.

[wax]

Nutrition and pharmacology are just as important for the industry's defenses as space.

[Al1977]

Quote: Wax

Nutrition and pharmacology are just as important for the industry's defenses as space.

For the sake of defense, you can tighten your belt))) A fat soldier is a good target. So everything is done right ... for the sake of defense.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Do you know that at one time the Americans refused to attack the USSR precisely because they could not destroy our food base in light of which the war was going into a protracted phase?

[Al1977]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Do you know that at one time the Americans refused to attack the USSR precisely because they could not destroy our food base in light of which the war was going into a protracted phase?

Did President Kenedy tell you personally?
And why would they attack the USSR? Have you dreamed of walking in Siberia in the winter?
And what prevented us from attacking the world's evil?

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Al1977

And what prevented us from attacking the world's evil?

juvenile

[Hauptam]

Bread is the head of everything, everything else is "foam".

[abarth]

Quote: PHANTOM-AS

Quote: anfil

For example, the former president also seemed to be thinking in the right direction, but in the end?

well, yes, this is also a "business executive" and a "prominent politician"


mdyaya

there about something else, raising pensions, do not quote that I have not heard .... The printing press will not be turned on, the ruble should not be strengthened, who is against ??? that would buy their goods and services, all FOR)))

[PHANTOM-AS]

Quote: abarth

Am talking about something else, raising pensions, do not quote that I didn’t hear .... The printing press will not be turned on, the ruble should not be strengthened, who is against ??? that would buy their goods and services, all FOR)))

You yourself, then realized what he said?

Quote: abarth

what would bought

That , write, best of all, together! And go to bed early.

[abarth]

and Tkachev well done, he yourself knows where Shoigu ...))) correctly, he knocks out finances and implements them, so you need to act !! and the port picked up, somewhere there was a link to the turnover of ports, Taman covers Odessa like a bull sheep, a small bull and a big sheep)))

[olimpiada15]

Agrarian issues are vital for the country.
But not the way they plan to do it. Behind the proposed programs, a new cut and expansion of the clan of the super-rich and influential is more likely visible.
The main issues that need to be addressed in the country are
1) the production of agricultural products in sufficient to ensure the entire population,
2) with good quality, i.e. healthy foods (most foods are not, nitrates in vegetables, pesticides in fruits, soy and preservatives in meat products, palm oil in dairy and pastry shops, etc.). What people consume today is an imitation of natural products, leading to changes in the body, and therefore
3) Russian seeds and nurseries are needed, which means that AN should be involved in the first place.
4) Western technology must be tested and after positive results are recommended for use.
A food program is needed so that people not only do not starve, but also are healthy, and give birth to healthy children, so that the machinations of Russia's sworn partners cannot affect the health of the nation.
There is a country while the people live and develop. No people, there will be no country.
And one should not look back to the West; by its policy, the West not only does not lead to the prosperity of other peoples, but cannot defend itself.
And today in my city’s shops there are no domestic tomatoes, no cucumbers from my region, and fresh potatoes are oversaturated with nitrates — local greenhouses were not profitable for someone’s wallet.

[user3970]

But I wonder whose chick this one was? LADY or gdp? I lean towards the second option. Conspiracy theories. Only the GDP has a matchmaker in the person of the cellist Roldugin, who, unlike Rostropovich, "suddenly" by the pike's behest, became a billionaire, whose whole merit was that he once brought together the future - ex-wife of the GDP. Abroad, this musician is not known. And Paul McCarthy has a smaller fortune. Nikolai 2, together with his brother, shared the ballerina Ksheshinskaya in a bed for two. And how much did her services cost in Russia? And what are our rulers worse. AND ? Eat coarse grains, and bring meat from Finland. And if they are dissatisfied, the Russian Guard, together with the faithful soldier Kadyrov and his nukers, go to Moscow to help.

[Kudrevkn]

This citizen did more for the collapse of the domestic economy than Khrushchev with "corn" and Gorbachev "with a food program" combined !? Perhaps the collapse of domestic farming is comparable to catastrophic collectivization - after both, the peasants again became "serfs"?

[Mentat]

Quote: Makk

Including masquerade as Stalinists, Communists, patriots and scribble comments that denigrate Russia, minus objectionable.

Here is a real patriot (there is also about agriculture)

You would still begin to scoff at sick people in a mental hospital.
Everyone has the right to their own opinion. The fact that this girl does not have the ability to speak to the public does not rob her of this right. Making fun of people with difficulties is not the best thing to do.

You better answer another question: how do you feel when you see the glorified banner of the USSR next to bastards, such as Navalny, at one rally? Not sick, fists not clenching, questions to the leadership of the "Communist Party" do not appear? Is everything okay?

[Mentat]

Cons poster with a dollar in the sweaty palm of traitors just touches)

[Mentat]

Quote: Al1977

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Do you know that at one time the Americans refused to attack the USSR precisely because they could not destroy our food base in light of which the war was going into a protracted phase?

Did President Kenedy tell you personally?
And why would they attack the USSR? Have you dreamed of walking in Siberia in the winter?

Information about the many plans for an attack on the USSR is publicly available and documented. Moreover, the US does not consider it necessary to hide it. Do you live in a world of a spherical horse in a vacuum?

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

this hamster is pointless to prove something