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The leadership of the DPR has appointed an election date. In Kiev, this decision does not agree

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The head of the DPR, Alexander Zakharchenko, on Friday signed a decree on transferring the local elections to November 6 of the current year, reports RIA News a message published on the official website of the republic.


The leadership of the DPR has appointed an election date. In Kiev, this decision does not agree


Earlier, the press service of the government of the Donetsk Republic explained that "the reason for postponing the election date was the failure of the Ukrainian authorities to comply with the Minsk agreements."

The agency recalls that, according to the Minsk agreements, “Kiev before the end of 2015 had to carry out a constitutional reform”, the key elements of which were to be “decentralization and adoption of a law on the special status of certain regions of Donetsk and Lugansk regions”. However, to date, this part of the agreement remains unfulfilled.

The appointment of a specific election date caused concern in Kiev. Georgy Tuk, Deputy Minister of Ukraine for the Occupied Territories, is confident that the elections in the Donbass should crown the efforts of the parties to improve relations, and before they are held a large number of tasks must be solved.

Tuka recalled that "the authorities are now drawing up in a document a state strategy for working with the temporarily occupied territories and the return of the Donbass." According to him, “the first and unconditional point of this strategy is a cease-fire, then we will talk about the return of ties between the population (there are several components - humanitarian, transport, economic)”, and then later with the help of international organizations, measures will be taken to restore the Ukrainian authorities in the Donbass. All this work must be done before the election.

“What is the fundamental difference between the views of the Ukrainian authorities and the interests of the Kremlin - for us the elections in Donbass is the finish, and we are trying to impose a start all the time. To begin with the elections - no, we will end with the elections, but not to begin, before the elections we still have to go a long way, ”said Tuka.
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  1. Khariton
    Khariton 24 July 2016 09: 38
    +10
    All Donbass, this is a cut off piece ... It will be more interesting!
    1. Teberii
      Teberii 24 July 2016 09: 46
      +16
      First of all, the ultimatum was passed to Kiev, now they freely accept everything as it is, or unleash a war.
      1. svp67
        svp67 24 July 2016 09: 54
        +9
        Quote: Teberii
        First of all, the ultimatum was passed to Kiev, now they freely accept everything as it is, or unleash a war.

        Yes, after the elections, if they are held on current conditions, we can clearly say that Minsk-2 did not take place and not when it will not take place
        1. Monarchist
          Monarchist 24 July 2016 17: 42
          +4
          Minsk2 already failed: remember how to complete everything there by the beginning of 2016, and now summer 2016 is running out! You can jump with a tambourine again five times, but Minsk2 has long been a boule.
      2. Khariton
        Khariton 24 July 2016 09: 55
        +4
        Quote: Teberii
        First of all, the ultimatum was passed to Kiev, now they freely accept everything as it is, or unleash a war.

        They’ll be afraid to fight ... Russia is too annoyed in the light of recent events! It’s better not to provoke us now ...
      3. Lukich
        Lukich 24 July 2016 10: 33
        +4
        Quote: Teberii
        First of all, the ultimatum was passed to Kiev, now they freely accept everything as it is, or unleash a war.

        will untie sad The Olympics begins. Sabakkashvili wants revenge
      4. 33 Watcher
        33 Watcher 24 July 2016 10: 47
        +10
        Quote: Teberii
        First of all, the ultimatum was passed to Kiev, now they freely accept everything as it is, or unleash a war.

        I would clarify:
        Either they take it as it is - or they go on ... Or they unleash a war, get on the horns and only then go on ...
        Given the hopeless stupidity of the Ukrainian political leadership and the presence of a sufficiently large number of free (for political hands), "surgical waste" capable of walking, drinking and swearing, and shooting, albeit lousy, they will probably choose the third way. Those. worst possible ...
        1. Donhapa
          Donhapa 24 July 2016 16: 15
          +2
          Quote: Observer 33
          Given the hopeless stupidity of the Ukrainian political leadership and

          This is not stupidity, this is the implementation of the plans of the "Committee of 300" to reduce the population of the Earth and the Slavic population in particular
      5. PKK
        PKK 24 July 2016 11: 34
        +3
        After the elections, in the DLNR, completely legitimate Governments will appear that can be recognized and begin to build military bases near Donetsk and Lugansk. Then the point will be played by dill. Once again I’ll think about shooting or not.
        1. Lukich
          Lukich 24 July 2016 13: 17
          -5
          Quote: PKK
          After the elections, in the DLNR, completely legitimate Governments will appear that can be recognized and begin to build military bases near Donetsk and Lugansk.

          then the outskirts will go into NATO and the sashis will start building their bases there. and as long as there is a conflict, they do not have the right to accept them
          1. Air defense SSH
            Air defense SSH 25 July 2016 01: 10
            +1
            If we talk about the right to accept, I would like to clarify - and what is the Crimea Ukrainians with p.ed.do.sasm and recognized as Russian ?!
        2. Monarchist
          Monarchist 24 July 2016 17: 52
          -1
          Colonel General, did you think before writing? : "There will be fully legitimate governments." For legitimacy, elections are needed according to the laws of Kiev and under international control, and this is, oh, doubtful. In addition, these territories are considered part of Ukraine.
      6. Donhapa
        Donhapa 24 July 2016 16: 13
        +3
        Quote: Teberii
        First of all, the ultimatum was passed to Kiev, now they freely accept everything as it is, or unleash a war.

        To the peoples of the DPR and LPR it is violet what Kiev thinks there
    2. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 24 July 2016 10: 02
      +23
      Our elections were to be held on November 18, 2015, then they were postponed first to February, then almost immediately to July 24. And now on November 6, in fact, the elections have been postponed for a year. For local residents, this election is up to one place, there will be elected deputies to local councils, which have been working for almost two years now. But the referendum on joining Russia will most likely be held in 2017, as I wrote in the reports back in 2014.
      1. avt
        avt 24 July 2016 10: 25
        +10
        Quote: Sith Lord
        For local residents, this election is up to one place, there will be elected deputies to local councils, which have been working for almost two years now.

        No. But in vain! The importance of this legal step needs to be clarified locally. This is just the de jure legitimization of the current incumbent LDNR authorities, and specifically on the ground. In Kiev, they understand this perfectly and they hinder it at all levels at all levels. Hence the transfer under pressure from the EU.
        Quote: Sith Lord
        . But the referendum on joining Russia is likely to be held in 2017

        Here, in order to disrupt the legitimacy of the referendum, the date of the elections is extinguished under the pretext of not being recognized as legitimate according to the law of Ukraine! They in Kiev learned the lesson of Crimea in this legal part clearly - if a local referendum is held by a LEGITIMALLY elected, and therefore recognized authority, then there is no way to get out of its results. You can puff - we don’t admit what kind of sanctions to impose there, but there will be nothing to impose de jure. So the elections are held in the format of Minsk, for Kiev with a sickle in the balls and a starting shot for further fragmentation, and after the collapse of the country at best for a confederation followed by a very muddy prospect.
        1. sharp-lad
          sharp-lad 24 July 2016 22: 17
          0
          Banderreich will never be able to remain united for a long time, the collapse into at least three components (Little Russia, nobody needless Walk the field and the Galitism with the Volyn Region) is programmed. Normal people will not be able to coexist with moral monsters for a long time, moreover, with mental retardation multiplied by unmotivated aggressiveness.
      2. Reserve officer
        Reserve officer 24 July 2016 13: 51
        +4
        Everything related to the elections is more logical to coordinate with the guarantors of the Minsk agreements. And not with Kiev. And Kiev is simply to be informed.
        1. Monarchist
          Monarchist 24 July 2016 17: 57
          +1
          This is possible if Orangutan Uncle B comes down from a tall palm tree. But Aunt X looks in there, and she is a bitch
        2. takeoff
          takeoff 24 July 2016 21: 54
          0
          Quote: Stock Officer
          Everything related to the elections is more logical to coordinate with the guarantors of the Minsk agreements. And not with Kiev. And Kiev is simply to be informed.

          Through the yellow press
        3. sharp-lad
          sharp-lad 24 July 2016 22: 21
          +1
          Guarantors have proven that they are not able to guarantee anything even to their citizens! On ... such guarantors! It is worth negotiating only with Little Russia and notify Mr. L. Avnyukov!
        4. The comment was deleted.
    3. Lelek
      Lelek 24 July 2016 10: 04
      0
      Quote: Chariton
      All Donbass, this is a cut off piece ...


      Cut off from whom and a "piece" of what? what
      1. Khariton
        Khariton 24 July 2016 10: 18
        -2
        Quote: Lelek
        Quote: Chariton
        All Donbass, this is a cut off piece ...


        Cut off from whom and a "piece" of what? what

        I understand what you’re hinting at ... Your perfume smacks! Mourn your Sheremet ... Rejoice, now is the holiday on your street, bye ...!
        1. vovanpain
          vovanpain 24 July 2016 10: 30
          +13
          Quote: Chariton
          I understand what you’re hinting at ... Your perfume smacks! Mourn your Sheremet ... Rejoice, now is the holiday on your street, bye ...!

          MIKHAN, CORNET, Emerald, Shaman, Khariton and other and other, Sunday is in no way today, so you shouldn’t indulge in alcohol with your heart. Maybe your Sheremet is already in a belligerent rush. soldier Don’t attack people, think what you write. In a leaky helmet, your head still worked for you ... sometimes.
          1. Khariton
            Khariton 24 July 2016 10: 38
            -1
            Quote: vovanpain
            Quote: Chariton
            I understand what you’re hinting at ... Your perfume smacks! Mourn your Sheremet ... Rejoice, now is the holiday on your street, bye ...!

            MIKHAN, CORNET, Emerald, Shaman, Khariton and other and other, Sunday is in no way today, so you shouldn’t indulge in alcohol with your heart. Maybe your Sheremet is already in a belligerent rush. soldier Don’t attack people, think what you write. In a leaky helmet, your head still worked for you ... sometimes.

            I'm not the first to start ..! hi I'm tired of being silent, the "comrades" will become impudent ... But don't worry about my heart, the operation was excellent! (Absolutely FREE!) It's too early to bury me! hi
            I can still pull the trigger in the interval between heartbeats ... Eye diamond! These are the things in the tank troops ..
    4. Altona
      Altona 24 July 2016 13: 18
      +3
      Quote: Chariton
      All Donbass, this is a cut off piece ...

      --------------------
      "Piece" is your epaulettes and way of thinking, Khariton. And Donbass is an independent territory that needs a legitimate, popularly elected government. And this power is needed for a long time, more than two years have passed.
      1. Monarchist
        Monarchist 24 July 2016 18: 06
        0
        Altona, X Ariton, expressed the common sense that the Donbass for Maydauns was a cut piece. Second: Khariton has the shoulder strap of a major general, not an ensign. In addition, I think the ensigns were abolished
        1. unsinkable
          unsinkable 24 July 2016 18: 36
          +1
          Quote: Monarchist
          Donbass for maydaunov a cut piece. Second: Khariton’s shoulder straps of Major General,

          First: Chariton’s thought is correct. But only this thought. About Sheremet inflicted blizzards. Second: if you seriously take epaulettes as a measure of the correctness and quality of comments wassat , then a hundred uphill to you. But ..., be you at least a generalimusim, and do not forget to think. hi
        2. vovanpain
          vovanpain 24 July 2016 21: 15
          +7
          Vyacheslav, it’s not a matter of uniform, here Altona is a marshal, I’m a sinner too, a marshal in VO, but in life I was a reserve sergeant, and now, moreover, he is just a working pensioner, a colleague correctly says
          Quote: unsinkable
          U. But ..., be you at least a generalisimus, but do not forget to think.

          I only join his opinion, especially Vitaly (Khariton) Sheremeta somehow tied it sideways to Leo (Lelek), why Leo has gray hair added. Well, you should think in the end, not with shoulder straps in VO, but with your head in life. Colleagues. hi
    5. Air defense SSH
      Air defense SSH 25 July 2016 00: 59
      +2
      Oh! At least the remaining territories of the regions would be added to this cut-off piece, and even the whole of New Russia ...
  2. APASUS
    APASUS 24 July 2016 09: 47
    +4
    Donbass needs to coordinate its decisions with the guarantors of the Minsk agreements on the part of Kiev and the OSCE mission. Kiev itself can’t agree on anything, and if it works abroad, it’s all bent again
    1. Altona
      Altona 24 July 2016 13: 21
      +1
      Quote: APASUS
      Donbass needs to coordinate its decisions with the guarantors of the Minsk agreements

      -----------------------
      Donbass needs the election results to be recognized by the international community. ALL!
  3. Bear in the north
    Bear in the north 24 July 2016 09: 49
    +5
    Perhaps this message will push the rulers of the outskirts to sharp attempts to crush the DNI, by force.
    1. 3 Gorynych
      3 Gorynych 24 July 2016 10: 11
      +2
      I really would not like the death of people! Although in my heart I understand that it will not work out any other way! "Yes, so that their hands dry up, and the trunks are bent (down), and their eyes are covered with pipiski!"
  4. svp67
    svp67 24 July 2016 09: 52
    +6
    An interesting choice of date is November 6th, that is, the announcement of the results on November 7th. Two holidays at once ...
    Well, what if "The mountain does not go to Mohamed, then Mohamed needs to get ready for his journey."
    God grant that this would be the final decision.
    It seems otherwise this conflict can no longer be resolved.
    I’m just now expecting a sharp increase in the activity of Kiev, they there understand what they are facing with the holding of these elections. I hope that this is well understood in the People's Republics, otherwise they would not have postponed the holding of elections for such a long time.
  5. Khariton
    Khariton 24 July 2016 09: 58
    +10
    Hold on to Donbass, Russia will not leave you ... For everything we will avenge Bandera lackeys!
  6. izya top
    izya top 24 July 2016 10: 12
    +1
    Is he like a tuk? Not a dupa?
  7. prior
    prior 24 July 2016 10: 17
    +7
    The very fact of the election will push the situation to resolution.
    After the elections, the legitimacy of power in Donetsk and Lugansk will not yield to anything
    the legitimacy of the Kiev junta. The West does not recognize the elections, it has already been held in Crimea.
    But to be able to be "always pregnant", the situation also cannot.
    It is time to liberate the entire territory of Donetsk and Lugansk regions.
    Drive time zapadentsev on from such a beloved west. And let there have their own independence in full ...
    1. Khariton
      Khariton 24 July 2016 10: 20
      0
      Quote: prior
      Drive time zapadentsev on from such a beloved west. And let there have their own independence in full ...

      Everything is ready ... We are waiting for a convenient moment!
      1. Lukich
        Lukich 24 July 2016 10: 42
        +4
        Quote: Chariton
        Everything is ready ... We are waiting for a convenient moment!

        up to ... how much strength is enough
  8. BOB044
    BOB044 24 July 2016 10: 20
    0
    George Tuka you just su..a. You are twisting everything.
  9. sergey2017
    sergey2017 24 July 2016 10: 21
    +3
    The Kiev authorities deliberately delayed the stipulated Minsk agreements! The decision to postpone the elections in the Donbass will spur Kiev to the resumption of hostilities and the outbreak of war!
    1. Monarchist
      Monarchist 24 July 2016 18: 16
      0
      Pan Pedro hasn't got it all done with his brain yet: Berlin and Paris are more interested in a semblance of peace, not the opening of hostilities. Most likely they will continue to pull the "cat by the tail" and periodically provoke the DLNR
  10. Egoza
    Egoza 24 July 2016 10: 42
    +8
    Well, they will untie - and do not go to Vanga. Only now the boomerang will return. Not to them, so to children. And let them think, if they don’t believe in God, so Retribution is here and now.
    On July 20 in Dnipro (the normal name of the city is Dnepropetrovsk) the son of the “hero of the ATO”, the commander of the special forces of the National Guard, was killed in his own entrance.
    “Last night in the Dnieper, at the entrance of my own house, some scum kicked from around the corner the son of my military friend, the best scout of our battalion, and now the special forces commander of the National Guard regiment Vladimir Voloshin.
    They killed him to remove the gold chain and watches donated by his father from his neck, ”said Viktor Ozhogin, a friend of the deceased’s father
    “Misha was buried today, and the scum that killed him was taken while selling the stolen goods at the pawnshop. But by the evening of today, the insidious murder of a young guy was quietly re-qualified as murder through negligence, ”said Ozhogin.
    “Imagine what is happening in our city ?!” he indignantly.
    Ddddddddddddd
    In Zolochev, Lviv region of Ukraine, thieves robbed the house of the deceased ATO fighter Alexander Shvets during his funeral, according to local police.
    “During the funeral in Zolochev, an emergency occurred. Unknowns entered his house on the street. Embankment, 44 and stole material assets and money, ”said Andrei Rapa, head of the investigative department of the Zolochevsky police department.
    1. Lukich
      Lukich 24 July 2016 13: 22
      +2
      Quote: Egoza
      “During the funeral in Zolochev, an emergency occurred. Unknowns entered his house on the street. Embankment, 44 and stole material assets and money, ”said Andrei Rapa, head of the investigative department of the Zolochevsky police department.

      yes, most likely the same "ATO veterans". how many pedro released them from prisons, and they deserted with weapons
      1. ML-334
        ML-334 24 July 2016 16: 47
        +4
        Our ancestors went through this in 1917 - the expropriation of the expropriators, so it seems like I could be wrong. The Russian language-looted robbery.
  11. Khariton
    Khariton 24 July 2016 10: 53
    +4
    Yes, Ukraine is degrading ... And we help it in this! What for..? Well, not out of spite, that's for sure ... Just clean it up!
  12. atamankko
    atamankko 24 July 2016 10: 57
    +4
    The junta does not want to implement the Minsk agreements no matter what.
    1. Khariton
      Khariton 24 July 2016 11: 09
      +2
      Quote: atamankko
      The junta does not want to implement the Minsk agreements no matter what.

      They clearly fulfill their mission! No wonder the West pays them money ... Have they already bought all the cottages in Canada and Australia? Yaytsenyuh is so happy, like "jumped off!" on time ... No Senya, you are being led! Enjoy your life for now ... bully
  13. Owl
    Owl 24 July 2016 11: 47
    +2
    Enough to transfer, the decree is signed - let it be carried out. But by the appointed date, the Kiev "authorities" will repeatedly experience an "aggravation of the active phase of the disease," characterized by shelling, sabotage, terrorism and possible attacks on various sectors of the front.
  14. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 24 July 2016 12: 29
    +4
    Yes, there will be nothing normal between LDNR and the Kiev fascist junta. It is a pity that at one time, when the militia attacked in all directions, Putin agreed with the West to impose a truce with Bandera. Under the control of LDNR would be Mariupol and e is still a significant part of the Donetsk region. Well, it is enough for LDNR to postpone the elections in its territories and it is necessary to determine its statehood, it is necessary to create separate power institutes with a prospect in mind. Banderaites do not need reliable LDNRs, just like the population itself, because they are afraid of the further collapse of the country. If the republics decide on their status, make some decisive decisions on the development path, then Russia and the West should already be reckoned with, since the junta has not gone towards new entities. Already Russia should act as a guarantor for these Republics if they apply for such help.
  15. Amurets
    Amurets 24 July 2016 13: 15
    +1
    “Tuka recalled that" the authorities are now drawing up a state strategy for working with the temporarily occupied territories and returning Donbass in a document. " According to him, "the first and unconditional point of this strategy is a ceasefire, then we will talk about the return of ties between the population (there are several components in it - humanitarian, transport, economic)", and only then, with the help of international organizations, measures will be taken to restore the Ukrainian authorities in Donbass. All this work must be done before the elections. >> And they themselves are preparing the Lukyanovka Central for the militias.
    https://versia.ru/pyotr-poroshenko-raschishhaet-dlya-opolchencev-dnr-lnr-znameni

    tuyu-kievskuyu-tyurmu
    with the help of the USA and the countries of European democracy. And the population of LDNR.
  16. PValery53
    PValery53 24 July 2016 13: 51
    +3
    To follow the lead of the junta, which sent punitive forces to Donbass, means to harm Donbass. We must conduct an independent policy in our own interests. Minsk-2 and other agreements must be established when the punishers are driven out of the Donetsk and Luhansk (former) regions. And there already "play" in mutual shelling. But it is better to fly closer to Kuev, because Kuev's other arguments are "incomprehensible."
    1. Monarchist
      Monarchist 24 July 2016 18: 22
      0
      If they had advanced towards Kiev, then .... Mom do not worry!
  17. ed1967ward
    ed1967ward 24 July 2016 15: 16
    +3
    Kills this word-occupied .. Who? This is the rest of Ukraine in the occupation of the Americans!
  18. SAA
    SAA 24 July 2016 17: 10
    0
    Great. No Olympics - there will be elections.
  19. FASO
    FASO 25 July 2016 07: 01
    0
    Everything goes back to full-blown battles. Recently, more and more often in the press they accuse the DPR of shelling atoshniks, that is, they pave the way for action. And the elections can be a trigger for this !! this is purely my opinion.