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Interview with Sergey Karaganov: Putin's adviser threatens to destroy NATO weapons (Der Spiegel, Germany)

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Kremlin adviser Sergey Karaganov about the threat of war in Europe, the revitalization of NATO and the inability of the West to understand the fundamental values ​​of Russia.

Der Spiegel: Sergey Alexandrovich, NATO plans to expand its activities in the Eastern European region in response to Russia's recent actions. Western politicians warn that both sides may find themselves in a situation that will lead to war. Is it an exaggeration?

Sergey Karaganov: Eight years ago I was talking about a situation close to war.

- ... when did the war in Georgia start?

- Even then, the trust between the major powers was close to zero. Russia began the process of rearmament of the army. Since then, the trust situation has only worsened. We warned NATO that it was not necessary to approach the borders of Ukraine, since this would create an unacceptable situation for us. Russia has managed to stop the advancement of the West in that direction. Thus, the danger of war in Europe in the medium term is eliminated. But the propaganda that is taking place now suggests a thought about the time before the new war.

- I hope these words of yours also apply to Russia?

- Russian media are more modest than Western ones. Although you should understand: in Russia the awareness of the need for defense is very strongly expressed. We have to be ready for anything. This explains the massive - sometimes - the nature of propaganda. And what is the West doing? He only demonizes Russia, he thinks that we are threatening with aggression. The situation is similar to the crisis that was observed at the end of 70, at the beginning of 80.

- Do you mean the placement of Soviet medium-range missiles and the reaction of the Americans to these actions?

- In Europe, then there was a feeling of weakness, and she feared that the Americans would leave the continent. But the Soviet Union, although inside it was completely “rotten,” felt strong in military terms and did something stupid when it decided to deploy SS-20 missiles. Thus began a completely senseless crisis. Now it's the other way around. Countries like Poland, Lithuania and Latvia are supposed to be reassured by the fact that NATO places there weapon. But this will not help them at all, we regard it as a provocation. If a crisis happens, it is these weapons that will be destroyed. Russia will never again fight on its own territory ...

- ... but will you proceed, if I understand you correctly, to the “advanced defense”?

- NATO is now on 800 kilometers closer to the Russian borders, weapons are completely different, strategic stability in Europe is changing. Everything is much worse than 30 or 40 years ago.

- Russian politicians, including President Putin, are trying to convince their people that the West wants war — to destroy Russia. But this is absurd.

- Of course, there is an exaggeration. However, American politicians openly say that sanctions are designed to change power in Russia. It is quite aggressive.

- Evening TV news in Russia seems far from reality. One Moscow newspaper even wrote the other day about the "ghost of an external threat."

- Political elites in Russia are not ready for internal reforms, the threat to them is very helpful. Do not forget, Russia is built on two national ideas: this is defense and sovereignty. Here, security issues are much more reverent than in other countries.

- Even Russian experts do not see a real threat to Russia in NATO expansion. Before the annexation of Crimea, NATO was a paper tiger.

- Its expansion was perceived as a betrayal of Russia.

- Your Council presented theses on foreign and defense policy. There you are talking about the return of leadership in the world. The message is clear: Russia does not want to lose influence. But what does she suggest?

- We want to prevent further destabilization of the world community in the future. And we want the status of a great power. Unfortunately, we can not refuse it: this status over the past 300 years has become part of our genome. We want to become the center of a great Eurasia, a zone of peace and cooperation. The subcontinent Europe will also be part of this Eurasia.

- Europeans consider the current Russian policy ambiguous. The intentions of Moscow do not seem obvious to them.

- At the moment we are in a position where we do not trust you at all - after all the disappointments of recent years. And because the reaction is appropriate. There is such a thing as a tactical surprise tool. You should know that we are smarter, stronger and more resolute.

- For example, the partial withdrawal of Russian troops from Syria was unexpected. You deliberately gave the West to guess how many troops you will take, and whether it will turn out that you will secretly bring in some of them again. Such tactics are not conducive to building trust.

- It was done masterfully, this is the highest class. We use our superiority in this area. Russians are bad merchants, they don’t like to do business. But we are great fighters and excellent diplomats. You have a different political system in Europe. One that cannot adapt to the challenges of the new world. The German Chancellor said that our president lives in an illusory world. In my opinion, he lives in a very real world.

- It is impossible not to notice Russia's gloating over the problems that Europe is facing today. What is the reason for it?

- Many of my colleagues look at our European partners with a grin. I always warn them against arrogance and arrogance. Parts of European elites need confrontation with us. And therefore we will not help Europe now, although we could do it in the current situation with refugees. What is needed now is joint closure of borders. In this respect, the Russians are many times more efficient than the Europeans. But you are bargaining with Turkey, and this is a shame. In the face of our problems, we pursued a clear, tough political line towards Turkey, which was crowned with success.

- You say that you are disappointed with Europe, which has betrayed its Christian ideals. Say, in the 90-s Russia certainly wanted to Europe - but to Europe Adenauer and de Gaulle.

- Most Europeans, too, want the return of this Europe. In the coming decade, today's Europe will no longer be a model for Russia.

- In its "Theses", the Foreign Policy Council calls for the use of military force under the condition of "an obvious threat to the important interests of the country." Was Ukraine such an example?

- Yes. Or the concentration of troops, which, we believe, threatens war.

- Is the deployment of NATO battalions in the Baltic countries not enough for this?

- Talking about the fact that we want to attack the Baltic countries is idiocy. Why does NATO move weapons and military equipment there? Imagine what happens to them in the event of a crisis. NATO assistance is not a symbolic aid to the Baltic states, it is a provocation. If NATO goes to aggression - against a nuclear power, which we are, - the alliance will be punished.

- On Wednesday, for the second time since the beginning of the Crimean crisis, a meeting of the Russia-NATO Council should be held. You do not think that you need to restore the dialogue in this format?

- He lost his legitimacy. In addition, NATO itself has become qualitatively different. When we started a dialogue with this organization, it was a defensive alliance of democratic powers. But then aggressions were committed against Yugoslavia, Libya, the majority of NATO members attacked Iraq. The NATO-Russia Council served as cover and legalization for the expansion of NATO. When we really needed the advice, in 2008 and in 2014, it did not work.

- You are talking about wars in Georgia and in Ukraine. In your "Theses" there are such concepts as national dignity, courage, honor. Are these political categories?

- These are the decisive values ​​of Russia. In Putin’s world and in my world, it’s simply unthinkable that women should be pawed and raped in a public space.

- Are you hinting at Cologne events on New Year's Eve?

- Men who would arrange something like that in Russia would simply be killed. The mistake is that the Germans and the Russians in the last 25 years did not speak seriously about their own values ​​- or did not want to understand each other when it came to this topic. We, too, in Soviet times, asserted that there were only universal values ​​- exactly the way the West is doing today. It scares me when Europeans say: give us more democracy. It reminds me, as we once said: let's more socialism.

- In your opinion, what mistakes did Russia make in foreign policy?

- In the past years, we did not have a political strategy regarding our immediate neighbors - the former Soviet republics. We did not understand what was actually happening there. The only thing we did was subsidizing these countries, that is, bribing the local elites with money that was stolen later - I suspect that together. Therefore, in particular, it was not possible to prevent a conflict in Ukraine. The second problem: our policy was too long aimed at correcting the past, the omissions of the 90s.

- In the Russian press it is suggested that after the parliamentary elections in September, Russia will send signals of detente. Are they reasonable?

- We believe that Russia - unlike the Soviet Union - is morally right. Therefore, there will be no fundamental concessions on our part. Mentally, Russia today has become a Eurasian power - I was one of the intellectual fathers of the turn to the East. But today I do not think that we should turn away from Europe. We must (in the Russian version of “we will” - ed.) Look for ways to breathe new life into our relations with Europe.
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  1. Andrey K
    Andrey K 24 July 2016 21: 35
    +57
    Russians are bad traders; they do not like to do economics. But we are great fighters and great diplomats.

    I agree with that. Attempts by journalist Christian Nef to draw some kind of "conclusion" from the conversation with Karaganov are simply ridiculous. It's like guessing on coffee grounds.
    Not knowing the inner driving force of Russian society, drawing information from the horror stories of the same colleagues from the "Western" media - trying to draw far-reaching conclusions about future relations based on the words of the presidential adviser (which, apparently, the interviewer did not even try to "hear") is too much presumptuous.
    An example before your eyes:
    The loud title of the article is "... Putin's adviser threatens to destroy NATO weapons." And Karaganov's phrase, which gave rise to the insinuations of the journalist:
    Countries such as Poland, Lithuania and Latvia are supposed to reassure that NATO is deploying weapons there. But this will not help them at all, we assess it as a provocation. If a crisis happens, it is this weapon that will be destroyed. Russia will never fight on its own territory again ...

    A curtain.
    “It is difficult to find a black cat in a dark room, especially if she is not there” (c)
    Kung Fu Tzu
    1. vovanpain
      vovanpain 24 July 2016 21: 46
      +71
      It is impossible not to notice Russia's gloating over the problems that Europe faces today. What is it due to?

      It is impossible not to note the gloating of Europe and the United States over the problems that Russia faces, and moreover for centuries. And look for your problems in yourself. yes
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 25 July 2016 02: 15
        +28
        Interesting article! Very interesting! I read it with great pleasure!
        Our Russian military honestly, without deceit, told Europe that we want, that we value, for what we stand and will stand!
        I especially liked the fact that we no longer intend to ever fight an aggressor in our - Russian - territory in case of war!
        I am very proud of such Russian military, such defenders of our Fatherland!
        1. WKS
          WKS 25 July 2016 10: 45
          +12
          Karaganov understands perfectly well that no one in the West wants to and does not intend to fight with Russia, plus everything - he is very afraid and afraid, and such a hysterical propaganda campaign is caused by this particular complex. Russia's reaction to this tantrum of the West can be very serious with serious consequences for the whole world. Since Russia is not Libya or even Iran. This is what he is trying to interpret in an interview.
        2. Corporal Valera
          Corporal Valera 25 July 2016 11: 25
          +19
          Quote: Tatiana
          Interesting article! Very interesting! I read it with great pleasure!

          And the character is also "very interesting". I remember how about five years ago, Mr. Karaganov, foaming at his mouth, squealed that Stalin killed more Soviet people than Hitler Germans. He called for de-Sovietization and repentance to "holy" Europe for the Soviet past. I even scribbled some pieces of paper in the espch. And now get out like a nightingale! What a life-giving state feeder does with people! The face of morality, straight!
          1. Nick
            Nick 25 July 2016 22: 34
            +2
            Quote: Corporal Valera
            I remember how about five years ago, Mr. Karaganov, foaming at his mouth, squealed that Stalin killed more Soviet people than Hitler Germans. He called for de-Sovietization and repentance to "holy" Europe for the Soviet past. I even scribbled some pieces of paper in the ESPC.

            More specifically, please. A reference if possible.
            1. avia1991
              avia1991 26 July 2016 19: 01
              +3
              Quote: Nick
              A reference if possible.

              Take a look at the site, but dig it .. There’s a lot of interesting things you can dig!
              By the way, here is a variant of the analytical assessment of Mr. Karaganov:
              http://maxpark.com/community/129/content/545348
              Not a fountain, of course - but obviously not invented there. Yes, and the site is open for study.
            2. Corporal Valera
              Corporal Valera 26 July 2016 22: 35
              +3
              Quote: Nick
              A reference if possible.

              Yes, please
              1. Nick
                Nick 1 August 2016 17: 21
                0
                Thanks for the link. As they say, a substantial addition to the portrait of Comrade Karaganov.
          2. UrraletZ
            UrraletZ 26 July 2016 06: 06
            +5
            And there is. This character is a stubborn anti-Soviet and ultra-liberal. Extremely two-faced type.
        3. Vladimir65
          Vladimir65 25 July 2016 13: 02
          +11
          Karaganov is not a military man and not a defender of our Fatherland, but a desovetizer and de-Stalinizer, who considers the period of the Soviet Union a black hole in 70 years.
        4. SergeBS
          SergeBS 25 July 2016 19: 49
          +10
          Quote: Tatiana
          Interesting article! Very interesting!

          The article is nonsense. Similar to reality, but nonsense.
          The most striking example:
          - Even Russian experts do not see a real threat to Russia in NATO expansion. Before the annexation of Crimea, NATO was a paper tiger.

          What kind of "experts" did not see a threat in NATO expansion?
          Name of these morons - in the studio.
          "Before annexation" - ALREADY FULLY reveals WHO and WHY organized this "interview".
          Two clowns bought with giblets from the USA talk about politics - A REAL assessment of this "interview".
          1. Nick
            Nick 26 July 2016 14: 15
            +2
            Quote: SergeBS
            The article is nonsense. Similar to reality, but nonsense.
            The most striking example:
            - Even Russian experts do not see a real threat to Russia in NATO expansion. Before the annexation of Crimea, NATO was a paper tiger.

            Quote: SergeBS
            What kind of "experts" did not see a threat in NATO expansion?
            Name of these morons - in the studio.

            So you do not understand. This is not an article, but an interview. Corr. Spiegel magazine issues such statements without worrying about their reliability. What does Karaganov have to do with it. He just claims the opposite. Here are the words of Karaganov on the provocative statement of the German correspondent: - "Its expansion was seen as a betrayal of Russia."
        5. Navigator Basov
          Navigator Basov 26 July 2016 03: 23
          +2
          Quote: Tatiana
          Our Russian military honestly, without deceit, told Europe that we want, that we value, for what we stand and will stand!
          Yes, their military also does not particularly hide what they want, what they value, and what they will achieve. No matter how much you tell them that we want to become a zone of peace and cooperation, we will still be a threat to them, if only because they do not fall into space from Lisbon to Vladivostok.
        6. sibiryk
          sibiryk 26 July 2016 10: 56
          +1
          Quote: Tatiana
          I am very proud of such Russian military, such defenders of our Fatherland!

          This is a Russian military man and defender belay ??
      2. Alexey-74
        Alexey-74 25 July 2016 09: 16
        +1
        I agree ... they can still be told in pursuit - we guys warned you ....
      3. SV
        SV 27 July 2016 04: 39
        0
        It's true! ... good
    2. seti
      seti 24 July 2016 21: 51
      +28
      The answers are absolutely correct. We do not trade in our Russian sovereignty and our self-esteem.
      1. avia1991
        avia1991 24 July 2016 22: 35
        +23
        Quote: seti
        We do not trade in our Russian sovereignty and our self-esteem

        "Who are "we?..
        I don’t know what is actually in Karaganov’s head - but many representatives of our "elite" trade this sovereignty successfully and profitably for themselves, and they do not care how the majority of Russians assess their actions!
        But it is precisely by their behavior in the West that they judge Russia ..
        So the attitude of the German, his vision of the position of the Russians - it is not surprising. hi
        1. dmi.pris
          dmi.pris 25 July 2016 06: 32
          +2
          Traitors are everywhere and always. What about this "elite" .. These are the ones on the Gelikas, or in Courchevel? These are just majors. As for the country's sovereignty, fortunately they are not available. So, they can shit on little things ..
          Quote: avia1991
          Quote: seti
          We do not trade in our Russian sovereignty and our self-esteem

          "Who are "we?..
          I don’t know what is actually in Karaganov’s head - but many representatives of our "elite" trade this sovereignty successfully and profitably for themselves, and they do not care how the majority of Russians assess their actions!
          But it is precisely by their behavior in the West that they judge Russia ..
          So the attitude of the German, his vision of the position of the Russians - it is not surprising. hi
          1. avia1991
            avia1991 26 July 2016 19: 06
            +2
            Quote: dmi.pris
            Are these the ones on gelika, or in Courchevel? These are just majors.

            Right! UNTIL just majors.
            Quote: dmi.pris
            as for the sovereignty of the country, fortunately they are not available

            And again you are right! Not available! ... BYE. When their dads and uncles, who have preserved the remnants of the Soviet upbringing that taught Modesty, when they leave, will they go to another world, or simply retire, WHO WILL YOURSELF REPLACE THESE POSITIONS FOR?
        2. Tusv
          Tusv 25 July 2016 08: 17
          +2
          Quote: avia1991
          "Who are "we?.

          As the son of a lawyer used to say: "We are all descendants. Adonomic" - as the Great Grandfathers and Grandmothers, we also know how to do something and very clearly explain, for example, after the "competition" of a patriotic song, the white ribbons faded. So Sanych speaks correctly. We are morally right and have no right to fight on our territory
          1. avia1991
            avia1991 27 July 2016 03: 07
            +1
            Quote: Tusv
            we also know how to do something and very clearly explain

            Vladimir, I asked a very specific question about the localization of the concept of "WE" in this case. I agree with what you have written, meaning that we are talking about you and me, other participants, about the overwhelming - I hope! - the majority of Russians .. BUT NOT ABOUT KARAGANOV AND LIKE IT!
        3. Bayun
          Bayun 25 July 2016 10: 50
          0
          I apologize, but your idea of ​​power and the business world in Russia is very similar to the ideas of the German journalist about Russia.

          Even if you have personally come across scoundrels from these classes, is it worth fueling social discord on the Web?
        4. SV
          SV 27 July 2016 04: 56
          +1
          "So the attitude of the German, his vision of the position of the Russians - it is not surprising."
          Yes, we do not care what the Germans think, let them take care of themselves - until they are fucked. negative
      2. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 24 July 2016 22: 35
        +10
        Quote: Andrey K
        An example before your eyes:
        The loud title of the article is "... Putin's adviser threatens to destroy NATO weapons."
        Nothing of the kind. The article is called "WE ARE SMARTER AND STRONGER" Russia - Kremlin adviser Sergei Karaganov on the danger of war in Europe, NATO's activation and the West's inability to understand fundamental Russian values. .In a German magazine, it is printed on the official website of the respected Karaganov too. The rest of the propaganda fraud.
        1. St Petrov
          St Petrov 24 July 2016 23: 10
          +22
          These are the decisive values ​​of Russia. In the world of Putin and in my world, it is simply unthinkable for women to be pawed and raped in public space.


          because men.
          And Putin will be at the helm for another 8 years and there will be groans on the forum from neurapatriots "who understand everything."

          It is she - stability laughing

          I like to gloat over our "here is the word denoting people who endure with pleasure and permanently", dreaming of the removal of Putin and the coming to power of a mythical creature who is so cool in general


          I read and was proud that this person spoke on behalf of my country. He picked up exactly those words, neatly, civilized, but as harshly as possible. And it is not surprising that Putin has such advisers.

          But you are bargaining with Turkey, and this is a shame. In the face of our problems, we pursued a clear, tough political line towards Turkey, which was successful


          it 5. hi taking off my hat

          If NATO engages in aggression - against the nuclear power that we are - the alliance will be punished.


          This is the climax. soldier Kudrin must be sweating when he learns that Putin is being advised, besides him

          1. Air defense SSH
            Air defense SSH 25 July 2016 00: 35
            +7
            I hope that there will be more such advisers and there is no need to be afraid to pronounce the words supposedly not core ...
            1. weksha50
              weksha50 25 July 2016 08: 22
              +6
              Quote: Air Defense SVSh
              I hope that there will be more such advisers



              It is necessary that there was such a single team ...

              And there will be no place for DAM or his ministers ...

              PS Although I was surprised at just such a speech, such an orientation in the conversation of Karaganov ... Until now, I considered (and still think) the HSE a stronghold of an anti-Russian orientation ...
          2. avia1991
            avia1991 25 July 2016 00: 58
            +14
            Quote: s-t Petrov
            because men.

            ??? Do you know them personally ?! belay
            Otherwise, do not judge human qualities by external signs. Take the generals of the TFR, who were arrested the other day - they probably presented themselves as "well, real macho!", And the speeches were pushed by "masculine" .. and what was "inside"?
            Any public person is first of all An image carefully licked by image makers.
            Quote: s-t Petrov
            and there will be groans in the forum from neurapatriots "who understand everything"

            More often these are attempts to sober up the "urrya-patriots" from the reckless enthusiastic cries of "right-by-definition" idol laughing You state:
            Quote: s-t Petrov
            It is she - stability
            , not wanting to look with a little more open eyes into the essence of what is happening inside the country. Another ten years of such "stability" - and we may well turn into a stupid "herd" of performers mindlessly performing mechanical work at the Rothschild and Rockefeller factories.
            PS By the way .. is it okay that Karaganov is the dean of the Faculty of World Economy at the Higher School of Economics, a well-known anti-Russian "educational institution"?
            1. SergeBS
              SergeBS 25 July 2016 20: 03
              0
              Quote: avia1991
              Another ten years of such "stability" - and we may well turn into a stupid "herd" of performers mindlessly performing mechanical work at the Rothschild and Rockefeller factories.
              PS By the way .. is it okay that Karaganov is the dean of the Faculty of World Economy at the Higher School of Economics, a well-known anti-Russian "educational institution"?

              1 point. About "stability". Quite a simple question: was EBN BETTER? In 199X? am
              The next question: WHO "passed everything"? Not a Bear-tagged with EBN for a couple? And who is disentangling?
              At the same time, "by a strange coincidence," if almost everyone was behind Gorby and EBN (and what did it lead to?), Now a LOT of all kinds of different CRITICISTS, DISAGREE. Only the trouble is that they can't even OFFER anything better. Because after 199X and an illustrative example of 404, no one goes to the "Golden Fish" from the USA or "democratic Europe".
              Quote: "Is it okay that Karaganov is the Dean of the Faculty of World Economy at the Higher School of Economics?"
              And Bibizyan Obama - the laureate of the Peace Prize (abruptly will be dean). And SHO?
              1. avia1991
                avia1991 25 July 2016 23: 48
                +3
                Quote: SergeBS
                ABSOLUTELY a simple question: WAS BETTER WITH EBN? In 199X?

                No, it was not. But the trouble is: about
                Quote: SergeBS
                And who disentangles?
                your unfortunate hint: DOES NOT disentangle. Because in 16 years it hasn't gotten any better. Although there was a period - a small - "well-fed" life, thanks to high oil prices .. EXACTLY THANKS TO THEM! And by no means the achievements in the field of science, education, health care .. not thanks to industrial development, not thanks to the strengthening and expansion of the domestic agricultural sector .. ALL AT THE EXPENSE OF RAW MATERIALS.
                You can shout as much as you like: "Go to Sdelanunas! - this will not change the situation. For the technology we have created cannot boast of technological coolness, scale, or ultra-modern equipment. Moreover, it cannot boast of the number of workers provided. places .. really hope it's YET.
                However, the behavior of those in power, the decisions they make and proclaim, they simply kill this Hope!
                Quote: SergeBS
                now a LOT of all sorts of different critics, disagree. But the trouble is, they cannot even OFFER anything better.

                You are talking nonsense. Sorry - but a fact. AND YOU TRYING TO OFFER SOMETHING GOING BACK FROM THE GENERAL LINE OF POWER ?!
                OFFER - they can! And more interesting, and better, and most importantly - HONEST. That's just any power such an initiative from the people destroys at the root - because otherwise, sorry for the tautology - this power will have to part with the power! If you do not understand this .. well - maybe for the better? It’s easier to live like that: easier and calmer. fellow
                Quote: SergeBS
                And Bibizyan Obama - the laureate of the Peace Prize (abruptly will be dean). And SHO?
                And THAT. Obama is not the President of Russia, nor his adviser. He can become anonymous beyond his puddle as much as he wants - but he does not affect the life of Russian citizens in such a way as Mr. Karaganov can influence!
                Go to his website? Read carefully and thoughtfully the articles: about Russia, about its role in History, about its Future, about its place in the world economy .. turn on YOUR brains! Why should someone explain to you, "who is hu" - and you will also spit at the same time? And stop unfoundedly defending a politician who does not deserve it - and does not need it! hi
                1. SergeBS
                  SergeBS 26 July 2016 22: 07
                  -2
                  Quote: avia1991
                  Because for 16 years it has NOT BETTER BETTER.

                  Yeah. In 199x they lived on cards. Now too?
                  Or has there been more oil since then? laughing
                  And, of course, it is "from a bad life" that watch "traffic jams" in "non-rubber" ones, and not only in it. In 199s - were there ALSO such "traffic jams"? laughing
                  No, well, of course, since it has become a little worse compared to 2004, then "it has not become better in 16 years." laughing
                  Card nostalgia torments how the measure of a GOOD life?

                  Quote: avia1991
                  AND YOU TRYING TO OFFER SOMETHING GOING BACK FROM THE GENERAL LINE OF POWER ?!
                  OFFER - they can! And more interesting, and better, and most importantly - HONEST.

                  Uh-huh. With a "small" amendment - this is "HONEST" - "a little" is unrealistic. Manilovshchina. Or Maidan.
                  Those. in fact - populism, such as "shchaz EVERYONE will be completely honest, there will be no theft, no corruption." Only ideological cries - "let's live honestly" - theft and corruption cannot be defeated. Treat idealism.

                  Quote: avia1991
                  Read carefully and thoughtfully the articles: about Russia, about its role in History, about its Future, about its place in the world economy .. turn on YOUR brains! Why should someone explain to you, "who is hu" - and you will also spit at the same time? And stop unfoundedly defending a politician who does not deserve it - and does not need it!


                  The "potential adversary" has a saying: everybody speaks words, but whiskey costs money.
                  I am NOT INTERESTED in articles from the "ideal far away".
                  Specially found the original article interview with Spiegel, and there is a very revealing passage is:
                  SPIEGEL: Russian politicians, including President Putin, are trying to convince their own population that the West wants war in order to split Russia into pieces. But this is absurd.

                  Karaganov: Of course, this is also an exaggeration. But American politicians openly state that sanctions should lead to a regime change in Russia. And that's a pretty aggressive position. "
                  Enough. U.S. greedy little hands didn’t drag in Crimea in order not to impose their war afterwards - when the European part of the Russian Federation is open from 3 sides and the Russian Federation will be able to fight (if it can) only for mutual or self-destruction, moreover with the US base in Crimea it’s rather self-destruction . (sarcasm)
                  And of course, the coming to power of someone like Mishka-tagged, or EBN, or Poroshenko is "just" in the opinion of Svetoch political thought with the surname in K "quite an aggressive position", and not a complete end to Russia according to recipe 404. So, a trifle. (sarcasm)
                  Or maybe the BEST cheapest (i.e. FAVORABLE) way to destroy Russia? am
                  1. SergeBS
                    SergeBS 26 July 2016 22: 15
                    -1
                    I can also quote the same indicative remarks.
                    On the subject of "de-Stalinization", for example, the "couch strategist" also showed himself.

                    Well, I didn’t understand which politician I allegedly defended?
                  2. avia1991
                    avia1991 27 July 2016 22: 48
                    0
                    Quote: SergeBS
                    since it got a little worse compared to 2004, then "it hasn't gotten better in 16 years"

                    We are talking about the presence or absence of positive changes - that is, PROGRESS. In comparison with other countries, the Russian economy is not developing - it is degrading. Because the heavy industry, heavy machinery, the chemical industry is not developing, the education system is not improving, but the education system is falling apart .. in 16 years, after the 90s you persistently mentioned, the industry has lost much more enterprises than under EBN! This is what I'm talking about: a man who came to power in 2000, judging by his deeds, does not loosen up - and does not try! - to clear up the "porridge" brewed by Gorbachev-Yeltsin. He simply solves his problems, some of which correspond, to a certain extent, to the aspirations of the population - which causes storms of delight and positive ratings. wassat
          3. Mikhail3
            Mikhail3 25 July 2016 09: 45
            +2
            Quote: s-t Petrov
            This is the climax. Kudrin must be sweating when he learns that Putin is being advised, besides him

            Yes. Five years ago, such words, but not from Zhirinovsky ... as much frost on the skin tore. But these are the only true words. And now they can be spoken. We already had weapons, and from the moment when we released and received the ported OS to our own "consumer" processor, we can no longer be shy. You can work.
            It is only necessary to strangle thieves, which also has become easier - international corporations no longer have a decisive influence.
          4. Ilya77
            Ilya77 25 July 2016 14: 00
            +5
            Quote: c-Petrov
            These are the decisive values ​​of Russia. In the world of Putin and in my world, it is simply unthinkable for women to be pawed and raped in public space.


            because men.
            And Putin will be at the helm for another 8 years and there will be groans on the forum from neurapatriots "who understand everything."

            It is she - stability laughing

            I like to gloat over our "here is the word denoting people who endure with pleasure and permanently", dreaming of the removal of Putin and the coming to power of a mythical creature who is so cool in general


            I read and was proud that this person spoke on behalf of my country. He picked up exactly those words, neatly, civilized, but as harshly as possible. And it is not surprising that Putin has such advisers.

            But you are bargaining with Turkey, and this is a shame. In the face of our problems, we pursued a clear, tough political line towards Turkey, which was successful


            it 5. hi taking off my hat

            If NATO engages in aggression - against the nuclear power that we are - the alliance will be punished.


            This is the climax. soldier Kudrin must be sweating when he learns that Putin is being advised, besides him


            Uh, you should not be proud of such an avatar for Karganov, he is an ardent de-stabilizer - https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B3% D0% B0% D0% BD% D0% BE% D
            0%B2,_%D0%A1%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B3%D0%B5%D0%B9_%D0%90%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%81%D0%B0%
            D0%BD%D0%B4%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87.
            Well, in general, a muddy man http://forum-msk.org/material/kompromat/6994272.html, in words we have a lot of such peppy ones, but in fact you look later - they leave to live west, like Astakhov or Skrynnik for example.
      3. SSR
        SSR 25 July 2016 00: 17
        +6
        Quote: seti
        The answers are absolutely correct. We do not trade in our Russian sovereignty and our self-esteem.

        But who is this Karaganov?
        Broadcasting on behalf of the people of Russia?
        70% of his hypocrisy, including that almost he is the defender of the State ... and blah blah. There was a damn light of Russia's well-being.
        1. SergeBS
          SergeBS 25 July 2016 20: 10
          +1
          Quote: SSR
          But who is this Karaganov?

          wink
          It's clear who. Another "fighter for democracy". According to templates (manuals) USA.
      4. Orionvit
        Orionvit 25 July 2016 06: 42
        +4
        I'm also an analyst, a handsome Tatar from the cover, Karaganov. All this has been going on for many centuries (if not millennia). Such an analysis can be carried out by any grandmother on a bench near the entrance. You would be an analyst, instead of analyzing how bad everything is (we already know), it would be better to get down to business. Well, I don't know, maybe I did it with my hands or something. And the surname is interesting, try to translate from the Turkic. "Kara" is dark, black, dirty, all synonymous.
    3. rruvim
      rruvim 24 July 2016 23: 14
      0
      "Don't look for a black cat in a dark room, this room does not exist!"
      Liu Zi, adviser to Chizgis Khan. Before the capture of Bukhara.
    4. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 25 July 2016 06: 26
      +1
      That's right, don’t expect any concessions .. What kind of Crimea, which Kuril Islands ?? What are you talking about? We don’t trade in sovereignty. Even the tagged one didn’t.
    5. jovanni
      jovanni 25 July 2016 08: 53
      +3
      Well, about the "bad traders" Sergei Aleksandrovich probably got excited. Once, Russian merchants traded very successfully, and with the money earned they not only bought yachts, but also opened art galleries, built hospitals, railways, libraries, educational institutions. Yes, a lot of things. In many provincial cities, the administration is located in buildings built by merchants. So, the best. Another thing is that then for 70 years they were spreading rot both these people and the mentality of the Russian merchants. (Here I mean not only ethnic Russians, our country, thank God, is multinational). And of course it is more difficult to restore. Here one cannot do without the state. And Sergei Alexandrovich, as well as other advisers to the President, it would not be bad to turn their attention to how to create such conditions in the country that modern merchants would not think about plundering the Motherland and buying more yachts, but about national pride. It would be necessary to somehow help them to assert themselves not by buying overseas football clubs and palaces, but by creating it here. As the predecessors did ...
      1. kvarfax
        kvarfax 25 July 2016 09: 21
        +2
        I think it was not that we have "no merchants" meant. Rather, we have things that are "not for sale". In contrast to the same west.
    6. Petr petrov
      Petr petrov 25 July 2016 18: 11
      +2
      I can not stand it ..... !!!!!!
      In anger to the union, the porridge will turn out !!!!!!!
    7. tuchkovskij
      tuchkovskij 26 July 2016 08: 39
      +1
      in World War II, all of Europe fought against Russia, and America supplied oil and fuel.
      Napoleon attacked - they liberated all of Europe, in the first world Trotskyists prevented, but in the 2nd world they liberated again ...
      Or maybe it was not necessary to release, but simply annex to Russia ??? :) ...
    8. tuchkovskij
      tuchkovskij 26 July 2016 08: 39
      +1
      in World War II, all of Europe fought against Russia, and America supplied oil and fuel.
      Napoleon attacked - they liberated all of Europe, in the first world Trotskyists prevented, but in the 2nd world they liberated again ...
      Or maybe it was not necessary to release, but simply annex to Russia ??? :) ...
  2. Knizhnik
    Knizhnik 24 July 2016 21: 42
    +10
    The article interview was already published somewhere in Russian, it seems, in Inosmi.

    What has always been impressive in Sergey Karaganov is an objective view of the processes, I think he is one of the very few experts with this ability.
    1. g1v2
      g1v2 24 July 2016 22: 18
      +5
      Yes, I also read it on foreign media a month ago. Only translated was a little different. Interesting enough interview, but you need to understand that Karaganov is not the only adviser to GDP. Let’s say it this way - that Karaganov advises the head coach, but there are other advisers - the same Glazyev, for example. It’s not necessarily that completely coincides with Putin’s opinion, but this is one of the people he listens to. hi
      1. vladnn2015
        vladnn2015 25 July 2016 07: 41
        0
        I like some experts from the VO site!
        Quote: g1v2
        but this is one of the people to whom he listens.

        Most likely, such experts are personally present at meetings with the participation of Putin and his advisers!
        Do I need to make such statements at VO? Vote the minuses and pluses to my post ...))
        1. guzik007
          guzik007 25 July 2016 09: 12
          0
          Advisor ...
          Boast of the inability to trade in our time ... Mdya.ya.ya
          And then, then, they got into the WTO and the BRICS, and still not getting there.
          What? Us again (nae) Oh! cheated? Well, okay, we’re warriors, not merchants, padumash-lyadr there, lard here ...
          ..Wow ! We left the bay ...
      2. weksha50
        weksha50 25 July 2016 08: 32
        0
        Quote: g1v2
        but there are other advisers - the same Glazyev, for example. This is not necessarily what completely coincides with the opinion of Putin, but this is one of the people to whom he listens.


        The wisdom of the leader consists precisely in listening to ALL advisers and making the only right and reasonable decision ...

        PS Among the advisers to our president, there is Kudrin ... And there are also shadow advisers that give a copper color ...
        1. SergeBS
          SergeBS 25 July 2016 20: 16
          0
          Quote: weksha50
          Among the advisers to our president is Kudrin ...

          A very simple consideration: keep your enemy close by, and then do not do what he praises, but do what he scolds.
          The main thing is to grasp the moment when this enemy will understand - they have "figured out", and will start to work the opposite way.
      3. Knizhnik
        Knizhnik 25 July 2016 08: 51
        0
        "Adviser to the President" is such a position that it is not known what will happen tomorrow, some have already been in "disgrace". Personally, I have already gone through a period when the position of someone influenced the assessment of their words.
    2. Vita vko
      Vita vko 25 July 2016 00: 20
      0
      Quote: Knizhnik
      always impressed in Sergey Karaganov - this is an objective view of the processes

      The political elites in Russia are not ready for internal reforms, a threat to them is very welcome.
      those. in his opinion, there is a reassessment of the external threat and an underestimation of internal problems. If one can still agree with the latter, then only a suicide or a traitor can be ignored with the growing factor of an external threat.
      1. Knizhnik
        Knizhnik 25 July 2016 08: 43
        +2
        Sergei Karaganov: I already spoke about a situation close to war eight years ago.

        Where is the reassessment of the external threat?

        If Karaganov self-critically went through internal problems, then he automatically gets from the patriots to traitors, right?
        1. Vita vko
          Vita vko 25 July 2016 12: 31
          0
          Quote: Knizhnik
          Where is the reassessment of the external threat?

          The fact that, according to him, "the situation is close to war." In fact, war, informational, economic and even local, is already underway at the very borders, its intensity is only increasing. Or is war for him the use of nuclear weapons?
    3. luxprofi
      luxprofi 25 July 2016 09: 02
      +2
      Cit. "We want to prevent further destabilization of the world community in the future. And we want the status of a great power. Unfortunately, we cannot refuse it: this status has become part of our genome over the past 300 years ..."
      Well, here's the answer from the great Karaganov! Advisor to the President! He states, to his great regret, that he has to adhere to the status of a great power. Freudian slip. The Higher School of Economics is still moving in an anti-Russian direction. Well, Karaganov, as one of the main helmsmen, <periodically gives the necessary impulses.
  3. kostiknet
    kostiknet 24 July 2016 21: 43
    +21
    Quote: Andrey K
    I agree with that

    We don’t need their hypocritical freedom, we don’t need their rotten democracy, we are alien to everything that they call Western values, we have other interests! We politely warn you for the last time - do not run up! We are building our world! We love the world! But we know how to fight better than anyone !!! am
  4. takeoff
    takeoff 24 July 2016 21: 44
    +2
    What else did this "Der Spiegel" want to hear ???
  5. t118an
    t118an 24 July 2016 21: 44
    +24
    Karaganov is smart and cruel; strength and mind are felt in him. I watched several television interviews with him, and you won’t refuse intelligence to him. And very clear and tough position. Stop chewing with snot with Europe and the USA.
    1. DimerVladimer
      DimerVladimer 25 July 2016 15: 51
      +1
      Doesn't Karaganov take a lot upon himself, threatening NATO? However, he did not serve in the army ...
      In order to have the right to make harsh statements - you still have to have something under yourself, and not just your dissenting opinion!
      And even if a person was with his head, he would not have scattered loud statements.
  6. Hunt
    Hunt 24 July 2016 21: 45
    +11
    Good interview. Karaganov well done!
    1. luxprofi
      luxprofi 25 July 2016 09: 21
      -1
      Read about the young man! Http: //www.compromat.ru/page_25765.htm
      1. DimerVladimer
        DimerVladimer 25 July 2016 15: 54
        +1
        That’s for sure, nobody is putting anything into Karaganov’s - a hollow bream.
  7. V.ic
    V.ic 24 July 2016 21: 50
    +11
    We believe that Russia - unlike the Soviet Union - is morally right

    How many times have been said to the priests:
    "For the last time - come to your senses, old world!
    On the fraternal feast of work and peace,
    The last time for a bright fraternal feast
    The barbaric lyre is calling! "
    A. Blok. "Scythians" 1918
  8. Berkut24
    Berkut24 24 July 2016 22: 07
    +5
    We believe that Russia - unlike the Soviet Union - is morally right.

    I understand that sometimes the western reader wants to please, but everything has its limits. That way in the 2nd World War we will soon become wrong. In general, some kind of double impression. It seems that this interview was not supposed to catch the eye of the Russian reader.
    1. rruvim
      rruvim 25 July 2016 01: 28
      +1
      What is Russia? Until 1917 (including Finland and the entire Caucasus, and all of Central Asia and Mongolia) or present-day Russia?
    2. I am human
      I am human 25 July 2016 09: 48
      +1
      Unlike the Soviet Union, it is immoral, since capitalism is not our way !!!
      1. iliitchitch
        iliitchitch 25 July 2016 10: 00
        0
        Quote: I am human
        Unlike the Soviet Union, it is immoral, since capitalism is not our way !!!


        "We will go our own way." It was said long ago, and in the case. And the President's surname, um, speaking.
        1. V.ic
          V.ic 25 July 2016 19: 22
          0
          Quote: iliitch
          And the President’s last name is, um, speaking.

          But what will happen to another abbreviation: DAM! And will give no doubt. However, as in a joke about a man who cut his bald head.
    3. DimerVladimer
      DimerVladimer 25 July 2016 15: 56
      +1
      Rather, on the contrary, he did his best to mark himself out as a fighter with NATO, while never serving - he slanted.
  9. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 24 July 2016 22: 11
    +3
    As Alexander Alekhin, a chess player, used to say: "I don't see a competitor," unrolling the board.
    As long as we have the Karaganovs (figuratively speaking, he is not alone there) - no, the enemies will not win. Putin doesn’t single-handedly make decisions, the syncline of cardinals is watching. SYSTEM is stable. Western entropy is controlled for now. Our fate is this - to keep the world in balance. It is difficult, but without options.
    1. PValery53
      PValery53 25 July 2016 00: 14
      +4
      Controlling Western entropy (a measure of disorder), we would not forget about our own.
      1. iliitchitch
        iliitchitch 25 July 2016 01: 21
        -2
        Quote: PValery53
        Controlling Western entropy (a measure of disorder), we would not forget about our own.


        Oh yeah ! Again we hit - what's there, what's at home. There is an option, purely "in physics" - the system "closed". A hanger for them, but beauty for us. Well, at least once in my life, do it the West. No, we are not like that, sometimes it's a pity.
    2. luxprofi
      luxprofi 25 July 2016 09: 18
      +2
      Are you serious? About Karagonov, at least read a little. What kind of man, his true thoughts and views. Place of work and other. Karaganov is really not alone. There are many more like him. Therefore, we sit in one place, in a puddle.
      1. iliitchitch
        iliitchitch 25 July 2016 10: 42
        +2
        Quote: luxprofi
        Are you serious? About Karagonov, at least read a little. What kind of man, his true thoughts and views. Place of work and other. Karaganov is really not alone. There are many more like him. Therefore, we sit in one place, in a puddle.



        Why read? I know a person personally. The cleverest man, with his opinion, is in many ways right. And we are not in a puddle. That smoked one got, and we slowly get out and, characteristically, get out, the groans of all, um, comrades, are annoying already. Che, damn it, go jerk, if not everything is good? No, edren-loaf, will ride on the ears. I rushed to my ex-wife in such cases wassat
        1. luxprofi
          luxprofi 25 July 2016 21: 34
          +1
          Quote: iliitch
          Why read? I know a person personally.


          Oh how! I know myself personally! Is the brother a half-brother or, at worst, half-brother? Of course, Karaganov is right. Cursing the Soviet Union, Stalinism, calling for mass de-Sovietization, etc. This is his true \ Karaganov \, essence. Why the public on the site admires the pseudo-patriotic attacks of this homunculus is unclear. Where does this liberal fuse come from for the overwhelming majority of activists? Or can't they grasp the meaning of what was said and written? Can't relate everything that was said and done earlier by Karaganov? As it says, like the smartest guy after all? Only Costumed is like a rooster in multi-colored rags. After all, it is absolutely clear <that Karaganov is a terrifying and convinced anti-Russianist, his anti-Russianness shines through in every speech, in every article. All this abomination is covered with pseudo-patriotic. Which is hawked by ingenuous \ oh whether \ readers IN.
          And we are not sitting in a puddle. We scream out loudly! We are getting out. From somewhere. Only rising from its knees \ still Russia \, did not reach the level of industrial production and consumption of basic foodstuffs by 1990. Karaganov and his accomplices teach us all. And they grieve over the still not disappearing status of a great power.
  10. Tanya
    Tanya 24 July 2016 22: 16
    +9
    If NATO engages in aggression - against the nuclear power that we are - the alliance will be punished.

    I hope once and for all.
    1. iliitchitch
      iliitchitch 24 July 2016 23: 47
      +2
      Quote: Tanya
      If NATO engages in aggression - against the nuclear power that we are - the alliance will be punished.

      I hope once and for all.


      FILL THE MUD! This is not a throwing Shapkaim, We Can Really. We have already got these "drop shots, horseradish number ...". They go and beg. You don’t want to talk to Lavrom, but you’ll be with Shoigu, and that particular person will drive him under the plinth, without steaming.
  11. Skubudu
    Skubudu 24 July 2016 22: 19
    0
    Clear tough stance.
    Living Soviet coat of arms (s)
    1. luxprofi
      luxprofi 25 July 2016 09: 31
      +3
      Karaganov said the Perm-36 memorial complex is "one of the most significant monuments of victims of political repression."
      Living Soviet coat of arms you say? The brightest period in the history of the Soviet Union, cursed in this Perm-36. Sergey Karaganov, one of the authors of the 2011 de-Sovietization program. An ardent propagandist of anti-Stalinism. Can a notorious liberal <be a patriot? Can a scavenger become a herbivore?
      1. bk316
        bk316 25 July 2016 12: 30
        +2
        Quote: luxprofi
        An ardent propagandist of anti-Stalinism. Can a notorious liberal <be a patriot?

        You do not confuse anti-Stalinists with liberals.
      2. bk316
        bk316 25 July 2016 12: 30
        +2
        Quote: luxprofi
        An ardent propagandist of anti-Stalinism. Can a notorious liberal <be a patriot?

        You do not confuse anti-Stalinists with liberals.
  12. xant
    xant 24 July 2016 22: 20
    +9
    And I liked it !
    If NATO engages in aggression - against the nuclear power that we are - the alliance will be punished.
    Our man is Karaganov!
    1. Lyton
      Lyton 25 July 2016 05: 48
      0
      I also liked the answers, all about the case and without water and snot to the mill, well done Karaganov, there would be more of such advisers to GDP.
    2. luxprofi
      luxprofi 25 July 2016 09: 34
      0
      Your man is Karaganov. No one doubts. The alliance will be punished. Carthage must be destroyed. Only by Carthage we understand Russia. And one of the destroyers of Carthage is Karaganov.
      1. iliitchitch
        iliitchitch 25 July 2016 12: 06
        +1
        Quote: luxprofi
        And one of the destroyers of Carthage is Karaganov.


        Well, I don’t like Karaganov, why are we loading others? They will cling to one and a half words, and the province went to write ...
        A competent man Sergey, a strategist.
        Quote: luxprofi


        Only by Carthage we understand Russia.


        You, perhaps, understand, a little peculiarly, um. Where are we, sivolapym. Where is Carthage, and where is the Third Rome? Well, the classics warned us - do not become the Third Rome, do not have to, damn it, save the planet from destruction
        "You must Fedya, you must ." take the matches away from the downs before they fucking set the hut on fire.
  13. Yakow
    Yakow 24 July 2016 22: 34
    +11
    They (the gay men) will not understand us. Because they are afraid. And from here even greater misunderstanding. Plus, the State Department is constantly wrapping up horror stories about Russian aggression. My classmate, who has been living in Israel for about 15 years, is the clearest confirmation. We studied and grew together, it would seem that the world around us should be perceived more or less like ... But no, a complete schizophrenia and a panicky fear of Putin. And he can’t listen to it carefully (GDP); some kind of blocking installation doesn’t.
    1. iliitchitch
      iliitchitch 25 July 2016 12: 48
      +1
      Quote: Yakow
      They (the gay men) will not understand us. Because they are afraid. And from here even greater misunderstanding. Plus, the State Department is constantly wrapping up horror stories about Russian aggression. My classmate, who has been living in Israel for about 15 years, is the clearest confirmation. We studied and grew together, it would seem that the world around us should be perceived more or less like ... But no, a complete schizophrenia and a panicky fear of Putin. And he can’t listen to it carefully (GDP); some kind of blocking installation doesn’t.


      So the Jews are still sane, compared to these! Ancient people. Oh, I feel that we, with an old woman’s senility, will still suffer, and these two suckers are precocious America-Canada ... Well, you have to comb these two lahudras, we won’t bounce. hi
    2. SV
      SV 27 July 2016 05: 12
      0
      "... complete schizophrenia and a panic fear of Putin"
      Let him live honestly and have nothing to fear! By the way, why do you live in Sasha?
  14. ando_bor
    ando_bor 24 July 2016 22: 38
    +2
    Something like this is necessary, clearly state your position, and how they will digest it is their problem.
  15. kepmor
    kepmor 24 July 2016 22: 43
    -3
    Oh, change the status of Sergey Alexandrovich from an adviser to an assistant to the president!
    Better yet, at the primier .....
  16. atamankko
    atamankko 24 July 2016 22: 53
    +1
    Very interesting and much explanatory interview.
  17. sad1940
    sad1940 24 July 2016 23: 05
    .
    Another narcissistic irresponsible talker, embarrassed like a parrot. If the Kremlin has such advisers, then it is clear why we regularly end up in jo ... u.
    1. SV
      SV 27 July 2016 05: 17
      0
      "... we regularly get into jo ... y".
      Apparently you are not coming from that sada.
  18. rruvim
    rruvim 24 July 2016 23: 18
    .
    I don’t understand? Karaganov was initiated into the Masonic lodge, or is he still a student? There is another Karaganov ...
    1. kot423
      kot423 24 July 2016 23: 54
      0
      Yes, I gave you rotational movements around the axis which was my genital organ.
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  19. PValery53
    PValery53 24 July 2016 23: 22
    +1
    "Russia will never again fight on its own territory ..."
    - I agree with Karaganov's idea that we do not need to step on a rake for the third time (the first 3 times - with Napoleon and Hitler). Now, if anything, we will immediately cover the territories of potential "partners".
  20. romandostalo
    romandostalo 24 July 2016 23: 27
    .
    Creepy vomit, not an article! Although for the western pigsty, apparently just right. Read disgusting !!!
    1. SV
      SV 27 July 2016 05: 26
      0
      "Reading is disgusting !!!" ...Do not read!
      And, with the pigsty - you figured it out for sure.
  21. rruvim
    rruvim 24 July 2016 23: 32
    .
    When this "parsley" broadcasts about some SS-20, one would like to understand: what advisors does the Brigadier pick for himself? Or is it a moronic translation from German?
    1. SV
      SV 27 July 2016 05: 45
      0
      "... a moronic translation from German?"
      It looks like your "foreman" is a barrack, so you don't understand!
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    1. rruvim
      rruvim 24 July 2016 23: 57
      -2
      I am not a liberal. Look at the photo of a copy of the ship, does the "Cross" on the sail remind you of anything?
      1. lelikas
        lelikas 25 July 2016 02: 14
        +3
        Quote: rruvim
        I am not a liberal. Look at the photo of a copy of the ship, does the "Cross" on the sail remind you of anything?

        This is, for a moment, "Santa Clara", better known as "Niña" - hopefully not to be reminded that she was Columbus's favorite caravel.
        1. rruvim
          rruvim 25 July 2016 02: 46
          0
          Exactly. And how Columbus ended his life.
          1. lelikas
            lelikas 25 July 2016 17: 06
            0
            Quote: rruvim
            Exactly. And how Columbus ended his life.

            Dead?
  24. kot423
    kot423 25 July 2016 00: 06
    +5
    Quote: rruvim
    I am not a liberal. Look at the photo of a copy of the ship, does the "Cross" on the sail remind you of anything?

    It seems to me violet to the fascination of a person (not you) with history. But it’s not violet for me when such liberalists (like you) shame my country, albeit allegorically. My words are not difficult for the liberal (you) to understand?
    1. rruvim
      rruvim 25 July 2016 00: 20
      -5
      Yes, I love my country. It is strange that you do not love her, because purple color has many shades. You should go to Europe ...
      1. kot423
        kot423 25 July 2016 00: 34
        -2
        What should be expected from the liberalist (you) in response ... By the way, have your parents already told you that your birth certificate is a written apology from the condom factory?
        PS But in fact: the crosses on the model ship are not a reason to accuse a person of Freemasonry, shaved at one time lay under Genoa, but this was originally their flag. Also, there is no reason to scoop up things that ~ 80% paint a general picture in the world and in relation to Russia in particular. So - it’s better for you to join a geyropu, it will be more convenient for you there to get masochistic pleasure from paying with black macaque and others like your stuffing ...
        1. rruvim
          rruvim 25 July 2016 00: 57
          -1
          Oh really? "Shaved at one time lay near Genoa." Understand "Cat" such photos just for "Mirror" do not. There are many more in the photo that you can see.
  25. dima-fesko
    dima-fesko 25 July 2016 00: 15
    +7
    In the next decade, today's Europe for Russia will no longer be a model.

    NATO assistance is not a symbolic assistance to the Baltic states, it is a provocation.

    Russia-NATO Council. - He lost his legitimacy.

    In the world of Putin and in my world, it is simply unthinkable for women to be pawed and raped in public space.



    I subscribe to each quote.

    The comments above are encouraging, but there is no need to engage in hatred. Despite the problems, NATO is a serious rival.
    1. rruvim
      rruvim 25 July 2016 00: 24
      +2
      And Europe has never been a model for us. For Cossacks Paris, for Fighters Berlin. For motorized infantry and air force Prague 1968. They are afraid of us because they remember us. Outskirts and I need to resolve issues, not Europe.
      1. kot423
        kot423 25 July 2016 00: 44
        0
        Sit down - two. This geyrope with the outskirts must be resolved (they were "guarantors" under Yanyka and in Minsk) and not for us to put "onyzhedey" on our necks again. Did Geyropa set up a pigsty with p.i.n.dos? Mattress mattresses quickly skim over a puddle, and rake geyrope. Their rake is their problem ...
        1. rruvim
          rruvim 25 July 2016 01: 22
          +1
          Cat, Outskirts is our problem! Do not you understand? These are our people, by blood and spirit! If they are temporarily insane, then treat them to us and not to Europe.
          1. kot423
            kot423 25 July 2016 01: 28
            0
            Yes you! They made their choice. Now whoever fed them cookies, let him heal. By the way, yes - this is YOUR geyropsky problem. But when normal Ukrainians will sweep YOUR freaks out of the country with a pissing broom, we ask you for favors, we never refused to help normal people.
            PS and I will ask you for "you", I am not only with you on a brotherhood, but I will not sit on the same field ...
  26. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 25 July 2016 00: 35
    +2
    Actually, no one is obliged to literally report everything in such conversations. Trends, general direction, creating a favorable image. Not a single European head tries to tell everyone specifically. Diplomacy is a science.
  27. red_october
    red_october 25 July 2016 01: 01
    +2
    Well, it is not by chance that Karaganov gave an interview. Such theses are not accidentally pronounced.
    Everything is correct, according to all the rules of diplomacy. The most stringent estimates and forecasts should first be given by 2 echelon officials. Meanwhile, Putin is simply explaining to cranks why they are cranks, calmly and without aggression.
    Let's see if the 2 move is needed, directly against NATO, and not a demonstration of force on the territory of the 3 countries.
    I hope no.
  28. kot423
    kot423 25 July 2016 01: 05
    0
    Quote: rruvim
    Oh really? "Shaved at one time lay near Genoa." Understand "Cat" such photos just for "Mirror" do not. There are many more in the photo that you can see.

    Gee! YOU have a written confession from Karaganov that he is a freemason? Or did you see this in the photo? So with the same success, if you look closely at your avatar, you are an alcoholic who can’t stand up, and because of this you shit yourself in your pants. And if you include the fantasy ... I'm afraid Moder will ban me for a description of what you, judging by the avatar, are ...
    1. rruvim
      rruvim 25 July 2016 01: 57
      0
      You're right! And I put my pants on when I ride in the Train. So I can get up. And the concept of "freemason" is always a common noun. Remember Boyarsky with a scarf: what color was it before, and what is it now?
      1. kot423
        kot423 25 July 2016 02: 01
        0
        For the gifted - once again: it is violet to me, what a scarf Boyarsky has. As for the train - all my whining to the black macaque, which type pays little. As for the Masons, did you have an unsuccessful sexual experience with them, so you are not talking about them in the topic of the article ???
  29. rruvim
    rruvim 25 July 2016 01: 15
    -3
    "I spoke about a situation close to war eight years ago." (Karaganov) You see, these intellectuals dream of war, like the characters in Metro 2033. But Karaganov will sit out somewhere in a bunker, and where are we mortals? All around the Kremlin elite and thirsts for war, no matter where. Umberto Eco will read to sleep in his "refuge", spitting on the concrete ceiling, and we will save the Motherland, sacrificing ourselves.
    1. kot423
      kot423 25 July 2016 01: 22
      +1
      On points: 1. "You see, these intellectuals dream of war, like the characters of Metro 2033" name at least one work of the 7 projects of this cycle, confirming your words. Or are you just empty-headed and proved my words that you are a liberal, receiving payment (in kind or financially) from the black macaque and henchmen. 2. "and we will save the Motherland by sacrificing ourselves." - are you talking about yourself and the geyrope with mattresses, when will you make Russia run out of patience?
      1. rruvim
        rruvim 25 July 2016 01: 43
        -1
        What kind of patience? You were not invited to RIO or to the GXNUMX? It's a shame, right? I personally do not. A plane ticket is expensive.
        1. kot423
          kot423 25 July 2016 01: 52
          0
          So you cry to the black macaque that the money for the plane is not enough to get out of the "wild, backward" Russia. As for the Olympiad, there are many articles about what it is now and how it will look without Russia. Regarding the 20k - learn the materiel, Russia put a big and fat one on the now 6k, in the 20k everything goes.
      2. rruvim
        rruvim 25 July 2016 01: 59
        -3
        Let's not talk about the "metro", let's remember the WARHAMMER40K universe.
        1. kot423
          kot423 25 July 2016 02: 04
          -1
          Why not about Cheburashka and Carlson? You know - you are a PM who can only whine and is not responsible for his words, with which I congratulate you.
          1. ML-334
            ML-334 25 July 2016 06: 17
            +1
            You minus for insulting. If, you think that insulting cause respect, you are mistaken.
    2. Olegovi4
      Olegovi4 25 July 2016 01: 31
      0
      Quote: rruvim
      Kremlin elite yearns for war

      if this were true, then you wouldn’t have the time to squander here. but they would chase through the forests of the Carpathians for the OUN people or on the block they would shine, somewhere near Makeevka.
      1. rruvim
        rruvim 25 July 2016 01: 40
        +1
        Yes already where only we do not chase. There is enough Dagestan ... I’m not talking about Syria ...
        1. Olegovi4
          Olegovi4 25 July 2016 01: 53
          0
          Quote: rruvim
          There is enough Dagestan ..

          those. in your opinion - not worth it?
          1. rruvim
            rruvim 25 July 2016 02: 08
            -2
            I do not know. "Navalny" once said: "Stop feeding the Caucasus!" I liked it. But why shouldn't we, if we sent all of Central Asia, all Eastern Europe, abundantly watered with the blood of our parents, to "free bread", not give up the North Caucasus too? Their Caucasus. Not Ossetia and Kabardino-Balkaria, but specifically Daghs, Lezgians, Chechens, Ingush. Let them cook in their own "cauldron".
  30. iouris
    iouris 25 July 2016 01: 32
    -2
    After translating Karaganov from Russian into Russian, it turns out the following: Russians are bad traders because they don’t like to do economics (they have nothing to trade). He who does not trade does not bargain: he quickly buys for the cash that he will give, and leaves forever. Anyone who is not involved in the economy simply does not know how to work. He who works poorly does not fight well, because war is work.
    What's the bottom line?
    1. kot423
      kot423 25 July 2016 01: 37
      +1
      Sorry, but could you say that you smoked before writing a post? I'd like it to stick out the same way ...
    2. rruvim
      rruvim 25 July 2016 01: 40
      0
      Translation into Russian "excellent". German in "Der Spiegel" is worse.
      1. kot423
        kot423 25 July 2016 01: 42
        +1
        Of course! Where do we go to your geyropa ...
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  31. Peter Romane
    Peter Romane 25 July 2016 01: 43
    +6
    - Russian politicians, including President Putin, are trying to convince their people that the West wants war — to destroy Russia. But this is absurd.


    Absurdity or not absurdity can be understood who and what will get if the war begins. If it is hypothetically assumed that the result of the attack is predetermined and a retaliatory strike can be avoided, then during the Russian attack on Europe, Russia will receive gays, lesbians, refugees and America bashing in jeopardy. When NATO attacks Russia, NATO can get a huge amount of natural resources, powerful leverage over Europe, the Middle East and, of course, China.
    Here are the answers:
    Why should Russia attack Europe.
    Why should NATO attack Russia.
    1. rruvim
      rruvim 25 July 2016 01: 50
      -7
      Yes, no one is going to attack anyone. There are simply political scientists (freemasons), both on our side and on the other, who are exaggerating this topic. What for? Just like a woman (I hope not Clinton).
      1. kot423
        kot423 25 July 2016 01: 53
        0
        Why so? Are you afraid your love (Clinton) will be beaten?
        1. rruvim
          rruvim 25 July 2016 02: 11
          -2
          Cat. An alcoholic is you. Pictured in Spiegel Karaganoff dandy. He wants to see Babu, isn’t he visible? Or do you like ...
          1. kot423
            kot423 25 July 2016 02: 22
            0
            Listen, p.e.doch.mo: once again for the stupid - with me on YOU, on you you can talk with the same pimply "couch warriors" as you.
            1. rruvim
              rruvim 25 July 2016 02: 40
              0
              You SIR-Cat are wrong. You are vicious, like all false patriots. Most likely you are a cop or a "spawn" of officials. You have already developed a lot. In short: you are a "state employee". And I am a simple "man in the street", spitting on you from my balcony. I am independent. And what Russia needs, I understand better than you.
              1. Dali
                Dali 25 July 2016 07: 08
                +1
                Quote: rruvim
                And what Russia needs, I understand better than you.

                You have not yet hung an icon with your image in the red corner at home ?! belay
                It seems like time ... laughing
    2. berezin1987
      berezin1987 25 July 2016 02: 37
      +3
      In an attack, Europe receives a scorched desert at the site of its metropolitan areas, broken nuclear power units, an EMP power system destroyed in relatively clean places, and tens of millions of corpses from starvation and cold in the first winter. They will try to take us from the inside, trying to provoke a coup d'etat or civil war.
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  33. kot423
    kot423 25 July 2016 02: 41
    +2
    Quote: berezin1987
    In an attack, Europe receives a scorched desert at the site of its metropolitan areas, broken nuclear power units, an EMP power system destroyed in relatively clean places, and tens of millions of corpses from starvation and cold in the first winter. They will try to take us from the inside, trying to provoke a coup d'etat or civil war.

    Add - and mattresses, too, tk. they play the first violin at that.
    1. derik1970
      derik1970 25 July 2016 06: 35
      +1
      Yeah, but what about ... if by that time our country would not be outbid and divided into specific principalities ...
  34. kot423
    kot423 25 July 2016 02: 44
    0
    Quote: rruvim
    You SIR-Cat are wrong. You are vicious, like all false patriots. Most likely you are a cop or a "spawn" of officials. You have already developed a lot. In short: you are a "state employee". And I am a simple "man in the street", spitting on you from my balcony. I am independent. And what Russia needs, I understand better than you.

    Hah-huh! Is it not a case with a chm smoker Bzezhinskiy (with a little one, because I don't respect) am I talking here? He is also independent and "knows" what is best for Russia ...
    1. rruvim
      rruvim 25 July 2016 03: 01
      -4
      Bzezhinsky is not, even Primakov kissed his hand to him. Serious man. And the fact that it’s small (and old): yes, and the GDP is small, and Medvedev is even smaller, and Duce was on the shoulder for Fuerrer in general, I’ll keep silent about Bonaparte.
      1. Simpsonian
        Simpsonian 25 July 2016 04: 31
        -1
        forgot about Ulyanov-Blanca, was also small
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  35. rruvim
    rruvim 25 July 2016 02: 55
    0
    Yes there will be no attack! In any pan-European war, Europe receives millions of refugees. And on that, and on the other hand. Everyone will run there, but there is no longer a place there, and vice versa. No wonder they cultivate Zombie films on their TV channels. And we need to save ourselves not from the armed forces of Europe (NATO), but from the flow of refugees from there.
  36. rruvim
    rruvim 25 July 2016 03: 12
    0
    Cat. Read his pearl: http://www.ng.ru/ideas/2011-04-01/5_destalinizaciya.html I especially liked about Moses and the Jewish people.
  37. Wolka
    Wolka 25 July 2016 05: 45
    0
    this is an order for people, the rhetoric is familiar and it seems ideologically correct, you will not hear anything else from the president’s entourage, do not even hope, but everything that needs to be done and will not be done for a broad understanding, especially not for a wide discussion. ..
  38. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 25 July 2016 05: 48
    +5
    rruvim, kot423 - Two chelas mated in a polemic about nothing. Stop the forum clogging up with mutual accusations, write each other a PM, but here you don’t need to rinse the brain, it’s not interesting to anyone.
  39. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 25 July 2016 06: 15
    +1
    But Europe is accustomed to being in contact with it and completely overthrown. What do we see today? We are always being offered to agree with their decisions, despite the fact that there is no respect for us from them at all. Someone likes this, who is always looking for their location, but people who are not connected with Europe do not give a damn about it. that our Russian leadership and the so-called elite have grown into Europe, and they forgot about the rest of Russia. And this is looking into her face, hoping to catch at least some relief. Not very nice to watch.
  40. Yak28
    Yak28 25 July 2016 06: 32
    0
    Sergey Karaganov has long been in politics, since the time of Tsar Boris. Before, he often loomed on TV, and he never differed in clever or sensible statements. Personally, I had the opinion that Karaganov was a murky anti-Russian character, a kind of cross between Khakamada and Nemtsov.
    On February 1, 2011, at a meeting of the Presidential Council for the Development of Civil Society and Human Rights, a working group headed by Karaganov proposed a program of “de-Stalinization of society”. These are Putin’s cunning advisers. wink
  41. derik1970
    derik1970 25 July 2016 06: 32
    +1
    A cool guy said - "Russia will never fight on its own territory again ..." Already once someone said the same thing and how it all ended is known, but we won that war, but at what cost this is the same important question. This advisor behaves in such a way that you might think he will personally go to war, which I strongly doubt. He is just a talking head and nothing more, but the statements of this head are very dangerous, he provokes the West with his aggressive attacks, behaves like a small aggressive child. This article is one show-off and nothing more. And the comments on the article are just like a carbon copy - fingers fanned out, snot bubble, we and we ... Yes, we are no one and nothing if at the same Baltic Fleet fig = knows what is going on and he is essentially not combat-ready, what do you think is better in other parts whether. As if all these teachings did not turn out to be a sheer window dressing with postscripts as in the same Baltic Fleet where the entire top was removed. And such advisers should be driven into the neck of advisers. They will start a war and all the people will take the rap for their careless words.
    1. SklochPensioner
      SklochPensioner 25 July 2016 07: 34
      +1
      Quote: derik1970
      he provokes the West with his aggressive attacks, behaves like a small aggressive child. This article is one show off and no more. And the comments to the article right after the carbon copy - fingers like a fan, snot with a bubble, we and we ...

      Oh, your brilliant (from tears and snot?))) Comment shows the world an example of innovative thinking ...
      Karaganov wanted to scare you last laughing
      Quote: derik1970
      Yes, no one we and nothing if on the same Baltic Fleet FIG = knows what is happening and he is essentially not combatants, what do you think in other parts is better or something. As if all these teachings were not a real window dress with postscripts as in the same Baltic Fleet where the entire top was removed. But such advisers must be driven into the neck from advisers. They will start a war and all the people will be blown away for their careless words.

      Deep knowledge of the subject, impeccable logic)))
      But please don't say "we", and even less blame for "all the people"!
    2. CONTROL
      CONTROL 25 July 2016 08: 44
      0
      Quote: derik1970
      provokes the West with its aggressive attacks, behaves like a small aggressive child. This article is one show off and no more. And the comments to the article right after the carbon copy - fingers like a fan, snot with a bubble, we and we ...
      ... And it is necessary to drive such advisers to the neck of advisers. They will start a war and all the people will be blown away for their careless words.

      How is that?
      Peter I opened a window to Europe ... Then - also a door ... then (he and others after him ...) - a hatch in the ceiling from the attic ... a hatch in the floor of the cellar ...
      ... Continue cutting these "technological holes" until the ceiling collapses and the floors fall through? Or maybe act "illogical" and "original" - not to climb the attic and the underground, not to slip through the window - peeling off the elbows and sides, clinging to nails and chips with the coat tails (than causing irreparable damage to him - a noble tailcoat ...) - and walk (Europe to us!) through the door?
  42. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 25 July 2016 07: 07
    +1
    This is what our people are like; they understand everything from football to world problems! But it seems to me that in such matters it would not hurt to think carefully, and then proclaim your ideas, because it is not for nothing that the Russian people have come up with such wise proverbs as, for example, "... measure seven times, cut once ..."! I think that GDP is constantly follows this proverb, and they are advisers, so that at the right time to "let the fog" or some other nasty thing, we are slowly adopting the methods of our far from "partners"! After all, even animals try to scare the enemy and thereby avoid a bloody fight , are we stupider than them !?
  43. oleggun
    oleggun 25 July 2016 07: 28
    +3
    Russians are bad traders ??? I have not heard more nonsense. In the Middle Ages, the Volga River and Yaroslavl were the center of world trade.
  44. weksha50
    weksha50 25 July 2016 08: 17
    +1
    "And we want the status of a great power"...

    And this, if not all, says a lot ...

    It is a pity, for some reason, an article on VO appeared a bit late ...
    1. Yuri Y.
      Yuri Y. 26 July 2016 22: 54
      0
      Our elite (partly thieves), begins to understand that it can be an elite. Especially when Russia is behind.
  45. CONTROL
    CONTROL 25 July 2016 09: 03
    0
    In your "Theses" there are such concepts as national dignity, courage, honor. Are these political categories?

    - These are the decisive values ​​of Russia. In Putin’s world and in my world, it’s simply unthinkable that women should be pawed and raped in a public space.

    - Are you hinting at Cologne events on New Year's Eve?

    - Men who would arrange something like that in Russia would simply be killed. The mistake is that the Germans and Russians in the past 25 years did not talk seriously about their own values ​​- or did not want to understand each other when it came to this topic.

    There are good medical reasons to consider modern women's fashion a weapon of mass destruction.
    Naked (modernly dressed - i.e. half-naked) women cause involuntary excitement in a man (up to 200-300 times a day), accompanied by hormonal release (in a lesser or greater concentration) of the gonads, primarily the prostate gland. Not finding a natural "outlet", hormonal release leads to the accumulation of decomposition products and processing by the body of these hormones (known as spermotoxicosis), and - to diseases (adenoma, cancer ...).
    Statistics of diseases of adenoma and prostate cancer in Europe and Muslim countries: - "Islam" is subject to this male "disease of the century" many times less, in a ratio of 4/1 (in Europe - 80% more ...). By the way, the effect has been known since time immemorial - sundresses, burqa, chitons, etc.,; and - European "bodices", corsets, naked breasts, arms, etc ...
    "Freedom of fashion", "emancipation" - a direct product of Protestantism! And Protestantism is a product of the split of Christianity into Orthodoxy and Catholicism ...
    ------------
    ... let Dunka into Europe (it seems, K. Trenev "Love Yarovaya") ... without taking into account the mentality!
  46. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 25 July 2016 10: 27
    -1
    In 2014, he gave a curious detailed interview to Echo of Moscow.

    I think he is not Putin’s adviser, but simply his views
    largely coincide with Putin's.
    1. bk316
      bk316 25 July 2016 12: 34
      +3
      Quote: voyaka uh
      I think he is not Putin's adviser, but

      And you think less, read more, for example, Presidential Decree of November 6, 2004 No. 1417.
      This is useful.
  47. antivirus
    antivirus 25 July 2016 10: 45
    0
    "Unfortunately, we cannot refuse it: this status has become part of our genome over the past 300 years. We want to become the center of a greater Eurasia, a zone of peace and cooperation. This Eurasia will also include the subcontinent of Europe."
    my +, but late, EBN has already died (this resident needed to know such words).
    "Karaganov is smart and cruel, you can feel strength and intelligence in him. I watched several TV interviews with him, and you can't deny his intellect. And he is very impressed by a clear and tough position. Stop chewing snot with Europe and the United States."
    15 years lost now you can howl like a wolf or growl with a bear, or you can a tiger roar.
    The MONOMAH HAT is heavy, and you sweat in it (not comfortable) if you sit in the wards.
    But on the battlefield (even in the wards, when planning the battle) you do not sweat and dandruff itself disappears somewhere.
  48. Alex von Dorn
    Alex von Dorn 25 July 2016 11: 37
    +1
    I liked the clarity of the position and its focus. Bravo.
  49. DimerVladimer
    DimerVladimer 25 July 2016 11: 55
    +2
    Forgive me, Sergei Karaganov - who never served in the ARMY (neither the USSR nor Russia) - undertakes to "punish NATO"?

    With such a "battle" rhetoric - as if a person has been winding around HOT SPOTS all his life, but in fact he has not lifted anything heavier than a handle all his life!

    Such, if I may say "HAWKS", are too zealous and big balabolas, in contrast to those who have really been in hot spots.

    Away from such advisers.
  50. akudr48
    akudr48 25 July 2016 12: 03
    +5
    Karaganov poured a tub of oil into the ears of grateful readers. The only thing missing is drumming.
    Against the background of scandals with generals from Sledkom - accomplices of thieves in law, as well as continuous mutkovschina in doping affairs and participation / non-participation in the Olympic Games, very timely words.

    Nice to guarantee that Russia will never fight on its own territory again ...
    And where will he fight, right in Switzerland or Londongrad, without departing from her foreign businesses, castles and estates? To play golf after a victory and drink it with French wine.

    Or what we are great fighters and great diplomats. Like, if they don’t understand us in the diplomatic sense, they’ll immediately get in the ear who doesn’t understand. Boldly, boldly, just like in a proverb catch our calf and wolf ...

    And it’s already with pride that it blows the roof when you think that
    We want to become the center of big Eurasia, a zone of peace and cooperation. This Eurasia will also include the subcontinent Europe.
    That is, in our Eurasia (with the capital in Moscow, one must think) these Germany, Italy, Spain and other trifles, such as Poland, will be included. And you can immediately forget about small, like sprats, but harmful Baltic dwarfs. But here it is not scary, since it is known that wanting is not harmful.

    Yeah, Ostap suffered. Before the interplanetary chess congress in Moscow, in honor of the victory of Eurasia, very little was left.
    The storyteller is not bad, Mr. Karaganov, almost like Andersen, who is Hans Christian. A good sewing dress for the naked king, you will admire.

    As befits an adviser, Karaganov advises:
    We believe that Russia - unlike the Soviet Union - is morally right. And power, as you know, is in truth.
    Damned USSR, for 25 years he has not been there, but he is all wrong. Like the Russian Empire, which inserted sticks into the wheels of the USSR throughout the Soviet period, up to 1991 and even further.

    Karaganov does not forget to praise himself "I was one of the intellectual fathers of the turn to the East," although he does not consider it necessary to cite any significant results of this turn. Well, fathers are often not required to look after the result, they are more interested in the process itself.

    Karaganov is demonstratively silent about the events in the Donbass, keeps quiet about the hottest point in the country's foreign policy. That is, the foreign policy adviser does not advise anything on the most important foreign policy issue. But perhaps he is not a father in the Donbass, neither intellectual, nor any other. And it would be nice if the whole Donbass turned ... But since senior comrades do not ask for Donbass, he does not advise for any reason.

    So can you believe him in other tips?
    1. Dr. Sorge
      Dr. Sorge 26 July 2016 13: 23
      +3
      I apologize to you, accidentally missed, put a minus .... + to you !!!!
      Karaganov is working out the concept of a scoop and the USSR is the center of evil.