Unsinkable aircraft carrier needs water

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Unsinkable aircraft carrier needs waterAt the July NATO summit in Warsaw, in the now traditional anti-Russian tonality, among other things, they again said that the alliance would increase its presence in the Black Sea region, and Russia should definitely abandon the Crimea.

The day before the opening of this summit, US Vice President Joe Biden shared with the media his thoughts on the role of Ukraine in the geopolitical games of Washington and the importance of Crimea as a military base for the United States. The following words were heard from his mouth: “The main interest for us is the Crimea, which was controlled by Kiev before the 2014 year. This region could serve as an excellent military base for NATO and the US troops themselves. ” He also hinted that Kiev should take care of the return of the Crimea to his control.

Almost in sync with Biden’s statement, Petro Poroshenko became frustrated, a column appeared on the pages of the Wall Street Journal, where he writes: “Today we have a modern and reliable army. We have created completely new special forces. Formed 15 new brigades. The process of combat training and training has been modernized. Strategic military documents developed in collaboration with NATO experts have been approved. ” Poroshenko also said that his army allegedly has experience of successful combat operations against Russian troops.

Somewhat earlier, the Ukrainian newly minted naval commander, a former tanker, now Vice Admiral Igor Voronchenko, spoke about his plans for delivering brigades by sea tanks APU on the territory of Crimea for its capture.

The comparison of these statements suggests itself. Obviously, Washington, in its unobtrusive manner, is pushing Nezalezhnaya to more decisive actions (than the blockade) aimed at regaining control of the Crimea. But the catch is that Ukraine, represented by the Kiev political leadership, is not yet mentally prepared for such a dangerous adventure. America needs this peninsula to accommodate the entire spectrum of military forces on it. This will allow Washington to threaten a land invasion of Russia from the south, oust the Russian Black Sea Fleet from the Black Sea, and close the region’s airspace for the Russian military aviation. But Washington also understands that the consequences of an attempt to openly seize the Crimea are unpredictable. In addition, Moscow already proved in 2008 in Georgia that it is capable of decisive action in the fight against an external enemy, despite the threat of the West. Apparently, America plans to throw Ukraine into this cauldron alone with a little covert military support from individual NATO member countries, but by no means involving the alliance in this war, or even an unequal hour, and a third world war could break out.

In general, despite the fact that Kiev is afraid of getting involved in a fight with Moscow, and the West wisely avoids this, the situation around the Crimea is gradually heating up.

PAIN POINT

Crimea is currently experiencing a state resembling a siege. The West has covered rebellious Tavrid with sanctions. The Square has shut off the supply of water, electricity, has stopped rail and road links with the peninsula. And as luck would have it, the 2014 summer of the year was hot and arid, and in the next two winters there was little rain.

For the Crimea fresh water has a special value. It is sometimes lacking there, despite the fact that its water resources in the Crimea are. These are 1657 rivers of different size with a constant and temporary water flow, of which only 150 have relative stability of water flow. The longest Salgir - about 220 km, the most affluent - Belbek.

On the peninsula near 300 lakes and 1900 irrigation ponds, besides this there are underground aquifers. Freshwater resources are located on the territory of the Crimea is extremely uneven due to the peculiarities of the landscape. The most provided with fresh water are the foot of the northern slopes of the center of the main ridge of the Crimean mountains. The driest areas are the north-west (Tarkhan Kut), the eastern territory of the peninsula (Leninsky district, Kerch, Feodosiya, Koktebel, Sudak) and Sevastopol.

According to the Ministry of Natural Resources of the Russian Federation, there are 23 reservoirs in the Crimea, the total volume of which is nearly 400 million cubic meters. For the past two years, this department had to completely redo the water supply system of the peninsula, which was fed by water from the North-Crimean Canal, in "fire" periods. This year, the implementation of 29 from 30 activities was completed, of which 25 projects are the construction and reconstruction of groundwater production wells. In general, today, the population of Crimea is provided with a sufficient amount of water resources, some eastern parts, including the city of Kerch and the Feodosia-Sudak district, are experiencing difficulties. To solve these problems, construction of a water pipeline from the Nezhinsky, Novogrigorevsky and Prostornensky water fields is planned. The length of the conduit will be about 200 kilometers, it will supply 195 thousands of cubic meters of water per day.

In the best of times, a lot of snow accumulates during the winter on the plateau of the Crimean mountains (Yaylakh), the depth of the cover is 1,2 m, in the lower parts of the mountains 0,7 – 0,8 m. layers. So, Chernorechensky reservoir is designed for 63 million cubic meters. m, if the winter is snowless, then it does not fill up to the norm and by September the water level in it reaches the red line. And this is one of those reservoirs, which is fed by the discharge of the main mountain ridge and crest-karst waters during the flood period. In the Crimea, two such periods. One winter (long), it refers to the February warming windows and is accompanied by prolonged rains, sometimes turning into snowfall. And the second spring, when there is an active melting of snow, accompanied by abundant precipitation in the form of rain.

The Dnieper water, which was fed into the North-Crimean Canal (SCC) from the Kakhovka reservoir, covered 85% of the needs of the Crimea, but was mainly irrigated. Ukraine, following the rule that in the war all means are good, at the most difficult moment (in terms of water supply), cut off the supply of Dnieper water to the peninsula. As a result, there was a serious shortage. The irrigated lands decreased from 164,7 to 17,7 thousand hectares, the Mezhgornoye reservoir, which was fed with water only from the CCM, practically ceased to exist.

NORTH CRIME CANAL

The construction of the canal began in the first half of 50-x, at the first stage it was an all-union construction. The first water was fed into it in 1963 year. By 1975, the channel reached Kerch, its length exceeded 400 km. By the middle of 70, the construction of the first stage of the channel was generally completed. Operation of the canal allowed not only to eliminate the water shortage on the peninsula, but also to irrigate about 280 thousand hectares of agricultural land.

From the very beginning of the construction of the canal, there was a catastrophic lack of concrete. Therefore, most of its bed had a subterranean bottom. Water loss reached 20%. The construction of the canal continued, to date it has not been completed. The improvement of the already erected part of the canal, the concreting of its bottom and banks was carried out in winter, when the water supply was cut off and the channel dried out. At some time, the loss of water was significantly reduced. The authorities, as they say, went into the dressing, they began to grow rice on a dry peninsula, and this crop requires a lot of moisture. Rice growing has caused a lot of harm to the environment.

In 1986, the channel received 2,3 billion cubic meters to the Crimea. m of water. This resource fed the 8 reservoirs: Zelenoyarsk, Mezhgornoye, Feodosiya, Front, Lenin, Samarly, Sokol, Kerch, whose total volume was almost 146 million cubic meters. m

As time went on, the canal was not yet completed, but it had already begun to deteriorate, and the quality of the Dnieper water had noticeably deteriorated. The cause of pollution of the Dnieper became the sewage system of cities, industrial enterprises, one hydroelectric station and two nuclear power plants (Chernobyl and Zaporizhia). Due to the dilapidation of structures by the time of overlap in 2014, the loss of water in the canal exceeded the previous 20%.

By the time the supply of the Dnieper water was cut off, the bulk reservoirs of the Crimea were filled with 58% (about 85 million cubic meters of water). The water level in Starokrymsky, Alminsky and Lgovsky reservoirs was below the red mark. In the other reservoirs of the peninsula, replenished by natural flow, the amount contained 146 million cubic meters. m of water. The Crimea found itself in a difficult situation: in order to drastically reduce water consumption, they decided to refrain from irrigating most of the farmland and refused to cultivate rice at all.

WATER SUPPLY DEDICATED MINISTRY DEFENSE

By decision of the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation General of the Army Sergei Shoigu, the pipeline battalion of the logistics brigade of the Western Military District (MTO ZVO) was urgently transferred from the Nizhny Novgorod Region to the Crimea. According to the General Staff, for the delivery of equipment and 27 thousand pipes, four railway trains were allocated. For the delivery of personnel were used military transport aircraft. The task was not easy. Work was to be in mountainous terrain, impassable for heavy tractors-handlers. The military manually mounted pipelines with a total capacity of 10 thousand cubic meters. m per day, in the Kirov district of the Old Crimea, one of the driest on the peninsula.

By May 14, the military drilled several artesian wells, laid a pipeline to supply drinking water to Old Crimea. In the same period, work was carried out, which allowed organizing the discharge of water from the Taiginsky and Belogorsk reservoirs along the Biyuk-Karasu river bed to the CCM. By the fall, the military had installed four pipelines with a total length of over 125 km, through which temporary water was supplied from artesian wells to the settlements of Crimea.

Deputy Defense Minister Army General Dmitry Bulgakov noted the professionalism and promptness of military plumbers. He also appreciated the promptness of moving the battalion out of its permanent deployment to the Crimea, the clarity of the actions of the commanders and personnel during the deployment of forces and equipment, the coordinated work of the units and services of the rear of the brigade of the anti-aircraft military unit and enterprises of Russian Railways.

Back in May, the 2014 of the year, the leadership of the Republic of Crimea understood that spot measures could not do and the task of water supply had to be solved on a large scale. It was decided to reanimate water intakes in the north of Crimea and ensure the supply of water from them to consumers using temporary waterways, river beds and CCMs, this decision was supported at the federal level. The issue of water supply is one of the key not only for the life of the Crimea, but also in the sphere of the organization of its defense. Back in Soviet times, three water intakes in the Dzhankoy and Nizhnegorsky districts were reconnoitered and partially equipped: Nezhinsky, Prostornensky, Novogrigoryevsky. Then, in connection with the construction of the CCM, they were drowned out and not exploited. In addition to exploration, it was necessary to drill additional wells at the rate of 12 for each water intake depth 113, 165 and 180 m (respectively), to install reservoirs for water accumulation, power plants and build water lines to the CCM.

This time, the Ministry of Defense set the task of the ZVO and the Eastern Military District (VVO) to allocate forces and means for the rapid construction of a water supply system in the Crimea in the winter-spring period 2015 of the year. Aircraft of the military transport aviation (BTA) from Buryatia to the Crimea urgently transferred personnel of the pipeline battalion of the BBB logistics brigade, about 300 military personnel. Materials and more 90 units of military and special equipment, the military department has transferred to the destination by rail.

This time, 100 military personnel, 40 military and special equipment units were separated from the pipeline battalion of the MTO ZVO brigade. The personnel were transferred from the place of permanent deployment in the Nizhny Novgorod region by means of the BTA to Belbek airport, then by road to the place of work. And the delivery of equipment and materials to the Crimea was charged to the railroad workers.

The main task of the military this time was the laying of water lines on a temporary pattern in the form of pipelines from the above-mentioned water intakes to the CCM.

The ZVO battalion completed its mission at the end of May 2015. The 6-kilometer water pipeline from the Nezhinsky water intake to the SCC channel was assembled by him, consisting of 24 field water supply lines with a total length of 124 km. Artesian wells with a depth of 180 m were drilled at the water intake itself. Its total maximum allowable productivity was 45 thousand cubic meters. m per day. Now from the Nezhinsky water intake water is supplied in the amount of 37 – 42 thousand cubic meters. m per day.

Back to the place of permanent deployment, the personnel were delivered on BTA aircraft. Technique moved under its own power mainly along country roads, in five columns, accompanied by military police and military traffic police.

The military pipelines of the BBO completed their work by mid-June and left for the place of permanent deployment. Their main task was to lay a temporary conduit from the reanimated Prostornensky and Novogrigoryevsky water intakes to the SCC. As a result, 24 lines of field trunk pipelines with a total length of 288 km were installed.

After the departure of the military work continued by contracting organizations. A test run of water from the Prostorno water intake was made on December 10.

PROSPECTS OF WATER SUPPLY

In the current year, according to the Ministry of Natural Resources, in April, the fullness of the reservoirs of the peninsula of both liquid and natural flow was again insufficient to forget about the possible occurrence of water shortages until the end of the year. In this regard, the Department of State Policy and Regulation in the Field of Water Resources, the Ministry of Ecology of Crimea are thinking about educational work with the population, aimed at minimizing water consumption in the region.

Ilya Razbash, head of the Public Relations Department at the Information and Analytical Center for the Development of the Water Management Complex, who headed this work, reasonably noted: “The Crimea is a water-deficient region, in which the idea of ​​water conservation is particularly relevant. In previous years, while the canal was open, the level of water consumption on the peninsula per person increased to 700 liters per day. In the metropolis more or less established practice of consumption of 120-130 liters. Our task was to make useful knowledge about water saving not boring and understandable, the Enlightenment action "I am water" in the Crimea is quite popular among the local population and tourists, judging by social networks ”.

Torrential rains, which took place in the Crimea in late June - early July, significantly replenished the reservoir stock, now the peninsula is supplied with water. Well, this year was lucky, but what will happen next if the new winter passes again with little rainfall and the summer is dry? The resumption of the supply of water from the Dnieper is unlikely, in any case, in a visible perspective, you cannot count on it. The project of transferring water from such rivers as the Kuban and the Don to the peninsula is also recognized as untenable for many reasons and is not yet considered. Only one thing remains: Crimea must provide itself with water on its own.

According to experts, for the beginning it is necessary to introduce a monitoring system and rational water consumption for housing and utilities needs. In agriculture, it is preferable to switch to a significant degree on capillary irrigation, which will significantly reduce losses, and you will certainly have to abandon crops that require abundant irrigation. It is also necessary to prevent the inappropriate opening of fissure-caste aquifers, as happened during the development of the Kadykovsky open pit. The device of reservoirs should be approached more thoughtfully, taking into account the result of geological surveys and historical data. Among the dubious projects of the authorities, the Crimean hydrogeologists call the intention to create a reservoir with a volume of 20 million cubic meters. m on the Kokkozka River in order to transfer its waters to the Chernorechensky reservoir. According to experts, such a project offers unjustified costs, since the entire bed of the Kokkozka River is located below the Chernorechensky reservoir. In addition, it will cause a decrease in the mass of under-flow waters of the Belbek River, which can lead to negative consequences, including a decrease in the productivity of the Lyubimov water intake, which, like the Chernorechensky reservoir, is used to supply water to Sevastopol. That is, in all respects, the project looks meaningless.

According to the representative of the Ministry of Environment, all the wells ever drilled on the peninsula are registered and strictly controlled. In fact, it turned out that this is not quite true. Of those wells that are not exploited, some are closed, some are lost, and some of them are simply abandoned and not controlled by anyone. That is, in this area has yet to bring order. There are cases when out of the active, registered wells located near the coastline, water is taken above the norm - this is fraught with the formation of a depression crater, as a result of which the sea water is leaking into the aquifer.

All experts, without exception, point out the dilapidation of the system of water pipes, water lines and CCM, as a result of which the loss of water is 40%, and at times it reaches 50%.

Currently, there are three options for water supply of the Crimea. Some experts believe that the peninsula has sufficient water reserves, which, even in the driest years with proper organization of the water supply system, can completely cover all needs, with the proviso that it is necessary to abandon crops that require abundant watering in agriculture.

There is another option that Crimea can provide itself with fresh water only for some rather long time (up to 50 years), and then, if it will be possible, to return to supplying it from the Dnieper, otherwise it will be necessary to keep the pipeline from the mouth of the Don along the bottom of the Azov Sea to the Crimea.

Some experts came to the conclusion that the Crimea can provide itself with fresh water only with sufficiently abundant rainfall in the autumn-winter period. With the frequent recurrence of dry winter, even with the perfect organization of the water supply system, fresh water supplies in the peninsula will run out rather quickly, in less than a decade.

WHERE TO TAKE WATER

According to the Ministry of Natural Resources, in the mountainous Crimea there are 2605 high quality freshwater sources with a total flow rate of 10 350л / s, which is 326 million cubic meters per year. m, this water feeds the rivers of the peninsula and partially underground aquifers. Many of them are not used for water supply. A simple calculation gives encouraging data - from proven sources in the Crimea, you can get about 1,3 billion cubic meters. m per year. It also takes into account the water reserves in the largest artesian basins of the plain Crimea: Severo-Sivashsky (666 thousand cubic meters per day), Belogorsky (119 thousand cubic meters per day) and Alminsky (452,0 thousand cubic meters per day) .

Currently, the peninsula is supplied with water from reservoirs and underground sources. Already, the water deficit in the steppe and eastern parts of the Crimea was covered by the commissioning of three water intakes - Nezhinsky, Prostornensky and Novogrigoryevsky. Moreover, the water intake from them is still limited. According to the State Unitary Enterprise of the Republic of Kazakhstan “Krymgeology”, the proven water reserves in these horizons will be enough for 50 years. The Minister of Ecology and Natural Resources of Crimea Gennady Narayev assured that “The quality of water here is very good. Water from these wells corresponds to all drinking State Standards. ” He also said that water is still mainly supplied to the SCC from two water intakes - Nezhinsky and Prostorensky in the amount of 50 thousand m XXNX / day. (The total maximum capacity of these water intakes is 3 thousand m X NUMX / day).

In order to use the water resources of the peninsula more optimally, at the federal level, it was decided to create five more reservoirs. At the same time, Dmitry Kirillov, Director of the Department of State Policy and Regulation in the Field of Water Resources and Hydrometeorology of the Ministry of Natural Resources of Russia, assured that “the decision to build each of the five reservoirs will be made by the piece after carrying out design surveys and studying the feasibility of building on a particular river tributary.

According to the experts of RusHydro, the restoration of artesian water intakes explored in Soviet times, but “frozen”, should be continued with the start of the supply of Dnieper water. In addition to these measures, further water transfer from local rivers to the CCM is necessary. In addition, it was decided to expand the hydrogeological survey. By decision of the Russian government, 3,369 billion rubles was allocated from the federal budget. uninterrupted supply of drinking water and water for agricultural needs to the Crimean Federal District. In particular, 2,178 billion rubles. The Ministry of Natural Resources was allocated for transfers to the Crimea and Sevastopol and 1,194 billion rubles. - Minstroy for similar transfers.

According to a group of local geologists, the search for water in the mountainous part of the Crimea should be conducted below the level previously explored. They believe that fissure-karst and fissure waters are present in the region in a much larger volume than is known now, because previously exploration was carried out only within the zone of increased fracturing at a depth from 50 to 850 m. It is also necessary to conduct work aimed at intercepting crackle -carst waters submarine discharge, which will give a significant amount of fresh water, which is now irretrievably diverted into the sea.

A very interesting document appeared in my hands - the concept of water supply for the city of Sevastopol, in which local geologists advise on prospecting several promising areas that will completely cover the needs of the city in fresh water. The emphasis is on additional studies of already explored sources and on the continuation of the search for new sources at a depth of up to 1 thousand meters, taking into account the locality and multi-layeredness of aquifers.

Specialists also propose to desalinate water and use treated wastewater, of course, only for technical needs.

DANGER OF THE SECOND CRIMEAN WAR

The experience of the First Crimean War of 1853 – 1856, for obvious reasons, can only be considered in general terms when it comes to the possibility of the Crimean military group to withstand the likely aggression. The experience of the Civil and Great Patriotic War can also be used only partially. Open participation of the forces of the alliance in the fighting in the Crimea is unlikely. The General Staff of Ukraine, according to President Poroshenko, has developed a number of strategic plans, obviously, among them there is a plan to capture the Crimea. According to the logic of things in it should be provided several areas of invasion. As an option, a naval landing on the coast of the northwestern and northeastern Crimea, the capture of the Kerch Peninsula, the forcing of the shallow Sivash Bay and attempts to break through the Perekopsky Isthmus, Chongar and the Arabat Spit can be made. Crimea should be ready for a temporary naval blockade from the Azov Sea and the destruction of all communications connecting it with mainland Russia through the Kerch Bay.

The plan should include several stages of execution. At the first stage of the sabotage of reconnaissance and reconnaissance groups (DRGs), the task of which will be very broad: the destruction of military facilities, first of all, the BRK, missile defense, air defense systems; organization or imitation of a rebel movement; act of terrorism, sabotage. The second echelon on civilian boats will be delivered to various points of the peninsula. Most likely, NATO provides for the supply of equipment and weapons for the Ukrainian Armed Forces by individual member countries of the alliance, the use of parts from the Polish and Baltic “volunteers” (as was observed in the Donbass events), since Ukraine will not be able to gather enough forces to execute this plan.

The main stage of the “seizure of the Crimea” will undoubtedly be the informational part of the operation - the impact on the world community in order to initiate the process of further political isolation of Russia as an aggressor.

WATER SUPPLY OF GROUPING TROOPS IN THE CRIMEA

The issue of water supply for Russian troops and fleet in the Crimea is by no means idle. Engineering services must provide water for places of permanent and temporary deployment, areas of concentration of military units and formations, CP and ZKP. The water supply facilities of military structures should be protected and used only by the military.

Unfortunately, there are negative examples. At Cape Fiolent (Sevastopol), two artesian wells intended for the water supply of military formations are used by local horticultural associations. Water intake from them goes above the norm, as a result a depressive funnel is formed, because of which seawater is leaking into the wells.

The organization of a separate water supply system for the troops is expensive and time consuming, but you must admit that it is necessary. We are talking about the defense of the Crimea.

Water for the needs of the military in the near future will need more due to the fact that lately the forces and means of the military group of the peninsula have been increasing. Air defense and missile defense systems of the peninsula are actively developing. The anti-aircraft missile regiments have already received the Pantsir-S anti-aircraft missile-gun systems and are reinforced with two C-300PMU regiments. In August, the 18 air defense regiment will receive C-400 complexes. In Crimea, it is planned to deploy at least a regiment of interceptors Su-27.

The frigate of the 11356 project Admiral Grigorovich, two small rocket ships of the 21631 project (the Serpukhov and the Green Dol) have already arrived in Sevastopol. Two more ships will be sent to the Crimea until the end of 2016. In total, six small rocket ships of the 21631 project “Buyan-M. On the peninsula deployed battalions of DBK "Bastion".

At military airfields in Guards and Kache are deployed front-line bombers and reconnaissance Su-24, amphibious Be-12, combat and transport helicopters. The 27-I mixed air division is being formed on the peninsula. So far, it includes only two aviation regiments. The 62 Fighter Regiment is based at the Belbek airfield, in its fleet four Su-30 and ten Su-27CM aircraft. There is information about the placement of long-range Tu-22М3 bombers on the peninsula. The 39 helicopter regiment is based in Dzhankoy, which has Ka-52 and Mi-28Н strike machines, as well as transport helicopters.

96 military units and units of the Ministry of Defense are deployed in Crimea. Among them, the 810-I separate brigade of marines, 126-I separate brigade of coastal defense. Recently, two units were formed - an artillery regiment and a separate regiment of radiation, chemical and biological protection.

The 112-I separate brigade of troops of the Russian Guard is deployed on the peninsula. Strengthening groups will continue. The realities are, if Russia cannot stay in the Crimea, it will turn into a US military base.

The issue of comprehensive provision of the peninsula is complex, and fresh water is one of its key components.
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  1. +3
    24 July 2016 06: 01
    The issue of comprehensive provision of the peninsula is complex, and fresh water is one of its key components.


    what There is reason to think about providing Crimea with fresh water through Novorossia ...
    1. +7
      24 July 2016 06: 31
      Quote: yuriy55
      There is reason to think about providing Crimea with fresh water through Novorossia ...

      Even in the Crimea they are silent about this and tourists are not traveling from their own reservoirs.
      1. +6
        24 July 2016 07: 03
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Even in the Crimea they are silent about this and tourists are not traveling from their own reservoirs.

        Anyone who tried Crimean vodka for a lifetime will remember its brackish taste. But now there are so many desalination technologies that it has long been worth taking care of this in the Crimea, especially since the water of the Black Sea is not the most salty.
        1. +3
          24 July 2016 07: 50
          Quote: svp67
          But now there are so many desalination technologies that it has long been worth taking care of this in the Crimea, especially since the water of the Black Sea is not the salty.

          And how much will that water cost for people? In the Caspian there is a desalination plant (or was it?) With a nuclear reactor, but it was built in the USSR.
          1. +12
            24 July 2016 08: 21
            Quote: demchuk.ig
            And how much will that water cost for people?

            How to put it more mildly, the issue of "water" in Crimea is more important than the issue of "land and money", it is at the level of the "air" issue.
            Quote: demchuk.ig
            In the Caspian there is a desalination plant (or was it?) With a nuclear reactor, but it was built in the USSR.

            Why use nuclear technology at once? Somehow it is immediately forgotten that Crimea is very rich in "sun" and "wind", probably it is high time to connect these resources to solving the "water" issue.
            1. 0
              24 July 2016 22: 26
              Quote: svp67
              Crimea is very rich in "sun" and "wind", probably it is high time to connect these resources to the solution of the "water" issue.

              hi
              Конечно.
              the decision on the organization of water supply in Crimea can only be complex.
              Here and the rational use of mountain rivers and lakes, storage of spring water and rainfall in reservoirs, artesian waters and desalination plants.
              As well as effective consumption.
              It seems that with such an approach there will be enough water.
              1. +1
                25 July 2016 12: 38
                The reality is that if Russia can not stay in the Crimea, it will turn into a US military base.

                You are an uncle, decide what realities you have in your head or speculation cockroaches in the form of "if".
                Keep cockroaches for yourself.

                The reality is that Crimea is Russia.
          2. +14
            24 July 2016 08: 56
            Quote: demchuk.ig
            Quote: svp67
            But now there are so many desalination technologies that it has long been worth taking care of this in the Crimea, especially since the water of the Black Sea is not the salty.

            And how much will that water cost for people? In the Caspian there is a desalination plant (or was it?) With a nuclear reactor, but it was built in the USSR.


            In Israel, 75% of the water consumed is desalination.
            Now both in Israel and in China, new desalination technologies are being developed.
            Even 20 years ago, desalinated water in Israel cost 2 dollars per cubic meter, and today it costs only 50 cents, 75% cheaper. This was due to the introduction of effective wastewater treatment technologies and desalination processes that consume less energy than before.
            Researchers have directed their efforts at improving the artificial membranes, on which reverse osmosis technology is based. Passing through these membranes, water loses minerals and other large molecules.
            IDE built one of the first membrane desalination plants at Kibbutz Yotvata in the Arava Valley near Eilat.
            In Israel, the company built two desalination plants - in Ashkelon (2005) and in Hadera (2010), which today are considered one of the largest in the world. The third desalination plant, which the IDE is building these days in Sorek, will give the first “harvest” in 150 of millions of cubic meters of fresh water next year. But in China, the company is building the largest desalination plant in China, using heat recovery technology that will save energy and make the process a little more “green”.
            Another innovation of the IDE is the replacement of chemicals used in the preparatory stage of desalination with a mechanical process called ProGreen. The company claims that this is the world's first “green” reverse osmosis desalination system.
          3. +26
            24 July 2016 10: 31
            The water turns out a little expensive, but if there is no choice ...
            Most of Israel is in the desalinated water of the Mediterranean Sea.
            Built two plants with excess capacity.
            But they no longer depend on regular droughts.
            The plant looks like this:
            1. +2
              24 July 2016 23: 28
              And in terms of security, is it reliable? It turns out if there is a shortage of water in the country if the work of these two plants is disrupted during the war?
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          5. +8
            24 July 2016 11: 49
            As for the salty taste of drinking water in the Crimea, I remember the drinking water of Yeisk on the Azov coast of the Kuban: perceptibly salty. Even beer "Zhigulevskoe" in Soviet times was salty there.
            And as for desalination, there is also a nuclear-free desalination technology: by evaporators due to reduced air pressure. Obviously, this is cheaper, although energy costs are also inevitable. But the construction and the endless renewal of water conduits also cost money.
          6. +1
            24 July 2016 19: 27
            There was, on the Mangyshlak peninsula, now the territory of Kazakhstan.
            1. 0
              24 July 2016 21: 18
              In Soviet times, it was the territory of Kazakhstan, the Kazakh SSR. It seems that many have forgotten that our republics during the time of the USSR in the press and in everyday life were called not only the RSFSR, the Kazakh SSR, but also simply Russia (or the Russian Federation), Kazakhstan, etc.
          7. 0
            25 July 2016 13: 42
            in the Caspian Sea in Kazakhstan, Aktau (Shevchenko) has been operating a desalination plant since Soviet times, it is designed for a million-strong city, well, it is very energy-intensive, therefore the nearby nuclear station + natural uranium is close. Water tastes - no, tasteless, but nowhere to go - they drink and work.
            1. 0
              25 July 2016 20: 19
              Everything is upside down. Firstly, it is not a desalination plant, but an HW (distillate production plant). There is a whole range of desalination batteries. The author turned down about a city of a million, the population in Aktau is up to 180 thousand people, plus industrial enterprises. True, almost all enterprises do not work, which consumed a lot of water during the USSR. Natural uranium has nothing to do with it. The BN-350 nuclear reactor has exhausted its life and has been mothballed for a long time. For desalination, thermal energy from natural gas is used, which is generated at the CHP. And the water is supplied to the city hot, drinking and technical. True, people have been remodeling eyeliner in bathrooms from technical to drinking water for a long time. And the water is quite normal, as they began to change steel pipes to plastic ones in urban wiring networks. In the past, rusty water really came and was always filtered.
        2. +10
          24 July 2016 08: 57
          Rave! Water can be safely drunk with tap water, it tastes completely normal (Yalta)! Water from the wells is taken for city water supply. You apparently drank technical, which is for irrigation. :))) For that I remember the Novosibirsk water supply, which is white for twenty seconds from chlorine!
          1. +3
            24 July 2016 21: 06
            Already good UV cleaning. But there are a lot of problem areas in the region ..
        3. +8
          24 July 2016 09: 00
          Quote: svp67
          Anyone who tried Crimean vodka for a lifetime will remember its brackish taste.

          I don’t agree ... We have a wonderful artesian water, served from a depth of 154 m. In Saki pump room mineral water is free around the clock. And no taste ...
          1. +4
            24 July 2016 09: 05
            Quote: code54
            Rave! You can drink tap water absolutely perfectly, it tastes completely normal

            Quote: alex13-61
            I do not agree ... We have a wonderful artesian water, served from a depth of 154m

            I'm happy for you. I drink the same water from the tap, which is similar in composition to a mineral water, but not carbonated, I’m already used to it. Even glad, very helped in maintaining health. But those who try it for the first time - the nose is turned back.
            And at the expense of taste - personal impressions of the rest near Yevpatoria. And if industrial water is supplied there to the water supply system of the villages, then this is honestly not very good.
            And from myself I can say that water tastes different in each locality.
            1. +1
              24 July 2016 09: 11
              The conduit stretches to Evpatoria from the side of Simferopol, and it is not an artesian ...
              1. +1
                24 July 2016 12: 09
                Quote: alex13-61
                The conduit stretches to Evpatoria from the side of Simferopol, and it is not an artesian ...

                In Yevpatoriya, the water was noticeably brackish (at least during my service in 1988-90)
        4. +2
          24 July 2016 13: 56
          In Crimea, even in Soviet times, there was a "stress" with water. Sometimes water was given on a schedule ..., it was collected for future use. This is in Sevastopol in 1979 ..., I served there then. And now ... really a serious problem.
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        6. +7
          24 July 2016 14: 49
          A brackish smack in Kherson, Nikolaev, and Odessa lips ... as yet regions of Ukraine ... But even then, looking from what depth, looking in which region ...
        7. +3
          24 July 2016 14: 57
          Quote: svp67
          Anyone who tried Crimean vodka for a lifetime will remember its brackish taste.


          Have you been to Kzyl-Orda? Have you tried the water there? Crimean compared to her - a complete buzz!
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        9. -6
          24 July 2016 15: 55
          Do not desalinate anything! We must use the experience of Israel! Jews are not fools, they could develop agriculture in the desert! And we deliver products to us!
        10. 0
          25 July 2016 11: 02
          Quote: svp67
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Even in the Crimea they are silent about this and tourists are not traveling from their own reservoirs.

          Anyone who tried Crimean vodka for a lifetime will remember its brackish taste. But now there are so many desalination technologies that it has long been worth taking care of this in the Crimea, especially since the water of the Black Sea is not the most salty.

          The task is not easy. Back in Soviet times, they tried to desalinate - too expensive. By the number of dissolved elements of the periodic table (not only NaCl), the water of the Black Sea is one of the first in the world.
        11. +2
          25 July 2016 23: 01
          Rave. In Crimea, normal water and always enough. CCM was used for irrigation of rice fields - another joke of Khrushchev.
      2. +1
        24 July 2016 12: 05
        I don’t want a bad thing, but I’ll have to ... I’m talking about the loyalty of citizens permanently residing in Crimea and about tourists who “do not travel with their own water”. The real situation at this moment is as follows: in Alushta a carton of milk costs 80 rubles. A ticket to the Taigan Nature Reserve costs 2500 rubles (a year ago 800 rubles, two years ago - 400 rubles). A liter of gasoline is well over 40 ... Prices are skyrocketing. Much faster and higher than in mainland Russia and no one does anything, does not control the situation. Where is the power and whose mill pours water?
        Island infrastructure stuck in 80-90's. Resorts in the North Caucasus are much better equipped. Those tourists who came here this year will no longer appear here. At the airport of Simferopol there is a natural mess and lawlessness, as at a worn-out bus station on Friday afternoon.
        The prime minister told the Crimean pensioners "There is no money, but you are holding on." The guys who are in power. It is you who "hold on." Take a close look at Crimea, rolling up your sleeves ... otherwise you will get another chiriyak on your ass, and you will sprinkle ashes on your head, and decide "who is to blame and what to do"?
        1. 0
          24 July 2016 14: 14
          Quote: TRex
          "Who is to blame and what to do"?

          ...fools and roads!
        2. +2
          24 July 2016 16: 53
          My friends recently returned from the Crimea, so for a month they spit from local prices — sweet cherries in the season were half as expensive as ours in Belarus. Prices for excursions soared by 25-30 percent compared to 2013, while nothing really changed — just as there was a mess on the beaches and in the cities, the only thing that changed was the flags on the buildings! They said that next year it’s better to break it into Turkey or Georgia, in short anywhere, but not to the Crimea! I am not a supporter of Ukrainians as a whole, although I am a crest, but I still need a conscience!
          1. +7
            24 July 2016 18: 40
            I, too, just yesterday from the Crimea. Yes, the prices are high, but you can relax and cheaper if it is not Yalta. And there are no problems with water, although the heat is over 30. Don’t be blundered, everyone wants free golden sand, but this is the dream of idiots of cinema heroes.
        3. 0
          25 July 2016 16: 49
          Quote: TRex
          "Who is to blame and what to do"?

          And who is responsible for the Crimea, is it Dimon? If he is, such a situation is quite logical.
  2. +1
    24 July 2016 06: 28
    The realities are those, if Russia can not stay in Crimea, it will turn into a US military base. - what kind of crazy information ... the author contributed ...
    1. +16
      24 July 2016 07: 04
      Quote: skarl
      The reality is, if Russia can’t stay in Crimea,

      The realities are such that if Russia cannot do this, then Russia will not be counted ...
      1. 0
        24 July 2016 11: 56
        This is true! And without the domestic government, instead of the Medveputin government, will there be Russia? The blindness of the author of the article is that he talks about the Crimean War instead of the world war. But the Shuvalov dvorkovichs and other medveputs will prefer a world war for survival - simple surrender to the offshore states. (Which, incidentally, are not eternal: the temporary states of America are the USA).
    2. -1
      24 July 2016 09: 03
      Quote: skarl
      The realities are those, if Russia can not stay in the Crimea, it will turn into a US military base. - what kind of crazy stuff ..

      Are you talking about yourself, darling?
  3. +14
    24 July 2016 06: 36
    Good article, solid. With numbers, analysis, conclusions. Thanks to the author. I read somewhere, a long time ago, that under the Crimea there may be whole seas of pure fresh water, connected in karst cavities. A geological-seismic exploration program was created to find these water reserves. And this water under pressure rises through cracks, forming water lenses closer to the surface. Here are just the depth of these cavities is measured in km. I don’t know if they had time to do something in this direction or not. If you have time, then you should try to look for available materials, maybe the geologists of the USSR managed to find something.
    PySy. Three days later, the chief will come from the Crimea, he goes there every year, and now he is there. So I learn from an eyewitness how it is with water.
    Oh, almost poetry turned out. laughing
    1. -4
      24 July 2016 12: 01
      You praised the author. His article is rather blind, except for digital and links to Ilya Razbash, the author Sharkovsky does not see a geostrategy. He sees an isolated point on the map and nothing more.
  4. +5
    24 July 2016 07: 21
    The author Alexander Sharkovsky ... thank you for this article ... I read it with great interest ... but I believe that experts from the Pentagon are reading it now (it’s clear for what purpose).

    Crimea is a key point in this region and it is clear that we need to prepare for future battles for it.

    The main stage of the “seizure of the Crimea” will undoubtedly be the informational part of the operation - the impact on the world community in order to initiate the process of further political isolation of Russia as an aggressor.



    True ... as soon as this begins, further aggressive actions should be expected.
    The struggle for our survival and existence continues.
    1. 0
      24 July 2016 18: 44
      And why did you decide that the numbers in the article are not disinfect?
  5. +5
    24 July 2016 08: 35
    The problem with fresh water in the Crimea has always been. There are many options for solving it. There are specialists and technologies and world experience (for example, the UAE) A clear State program and financing are needed. And that’s all.
    1. +8
      24 July 2016 09: 05
      Quote: Hunter
      We need a clear State program and funding. And that’s all.

      ... Chubais’s hands got foggy right away ...
      1. +2
        24 July 2016 10: 06
        Good. I have two shovels and a moonshine (can work as a desalination plant). when we begin to solve the problem ???
        1. 0
          24 July 2016 17: 22
          Quote: Hunter
          moonshine still (can work as a desalination plant)

          Evaporate: water-steam = 1 cu. cm = 100 cal. For the price, the water will be "gold". Cheaper by repeated freezing in winter ice-water = 1 cu. cm = 80 cal. At the same time, cool down your "desalination plant".
          PS And why do they teach physics at school? And most importantly, for whom?
          1. 0
            24 July 2016 23: 15
            Quote: V.ic
            Quote: Hunter
            moonshine still (can work as a desalination plant)

            Evaporate: water-steam = 1 cu. cm = 100 cal. For the price, the water will be "gold". Cheaper by repeated freezing in winter ice-water = 1 cu. cm = 80 cal. At the same time, cool down your "desalination plant".
            PS And why do they teach physics at school? And most importantly, for whom?

            Why do they teach math at school? Freeze and melt ice many times! Yes, count the multiplicity! Therefore, desalination plants are used!
    2. +3
      24 July 2016 13: 10
      ) We need a clear State program and funding. And that’s it.,
      First of all, we need people who think about business, and not about their own pockets.
  6. aba
    +2
    24 July 2016 08: 47
    The struggle for our survival and existence continues.

    Rest only in our dreams! (with)
    And about the water ... Already reasonably mentioned above about desalination plants. I think that this option should not be discounted.
    1. avt
      +4
      24 July 2016 09: 02
      Quote: aba
      And about the water ... Already reasonably mentioned above about desalination plants.

      NPPs must be placed under desalination plants, and now the author has a dry channel
      From the very beginning of the construction of the canal, a catastrophic shortage of concrete was observed. Therefore, most of its channel had a soil bottom. Water losses reached 20%. The construction of the canal continued; to date, it has not been completed.
      . And if you look at the deterioration of the pipeline network of water supply in cities? How much water does it leave in the sand? In general, we don’t bother with water consumption, but we should seriously, especially in the Crimea
      According to experts, for a start it is necessary to introduce a control system and a rational flow of water for the needs of housing and communal services. In agriculture, it is preferable to switch to a large extent to capillary irrigation, which will significantly reduce losses, and you will certainly have to abandon crops that require abundant watering. It is also necessary to prevent the improper opening of the fissure-caste aquifers, as happened during the development of the Kadykovsky quarry. It is necessary to approach reservoirs more carefully, taking into account the results of geological surveys and archival data.
      according to the method of the Jews in Israel. The author laid out everything correctly -How much do you fight without water?
      1. AUL
        +4
        24 July 2016 11: 00
        NPPs must be placed under desalination plants, and now the author has a dry channel
        It is painful to build nuclear power plants there - Crimea is a very seismic hazard zone. It is necessary to adopt the experience of Israel; they have good results there in this direction.
        1. +1
          25 July 2016 12: 19
          Quote from AUL
          It is painful to build nuclear power plants there - Crimea is a very seismic hazard zone.

          During the Spitak tragedy, the Armenian nuclear power plant withstood the push over 6 points. And it was calculated at all at 9,5.
          By the way, in Crimea, nuclear power plants with as many as 4 VVER-1000s were designed and started construction in Soviet times.
  7. +10
    24 July 2016 09: 11
    When conducting exercises in the Crimea in 1983, as by chance the district commander spoke about the water supply to Crimea in the 1860s (during the Crimean War). Then in the winter, water was collected in the reservoir. Read the memories of the participants of that war, you will find places about the water crisis there. No.
    This problem must be dealt with seriously. I remember when we needed to increase the runway in Simferopol (at the airfield by 2,5 km). It is like an alternate airfield for Buran. At the same time, it was necessary to build a bridge over the highway. The work was completed in 3 months. There should be a federal program for the electricity, water and tourism industry of the Crimea. Money can be both public (bonds) and private. Why do we need a Turkish coast, there is a coast of the Crimea. I have the honor.
  8. +5
    24 July 2016 09: 12
    [The main stage of the "capture of Crimea", undoubtedly, will be the informational part of the operation - the impact on the world community in order to initiate the process of further political isolation of Russia as an aggressor.]

    Today in the former Ukraine the fascist criminal movement is gaining strength. Masses of young people without reason in their heads and without God in their hearts are voluntarily recruited into the ranks of the "rabid". And this is a very dangerous situation. With skillful manipulation of this mass (and the Anglo-Saxons are much in this area), it can be directed to unleash new military actions both in the southeast and in Perekop. In any case, this is the cherished dream of the American and NATO "hawks". In Germany in the 30-40s it began with "Deutschland Uber Alles", and in the former Ukraine with "Glory to Ukraine, Glory Bandera, Moskalyak to Gilyak". (Click)
  9. +9
    24 July 2016 09: 17

    The 112-I separate brigade of troops of the Russian Guard is deployed on the peninsula. Strengthening groups will continue. The realities are, if Russia cannot stay in the Crimea, it will turn into a US military base.

    It seems that there are enough internal enemies, except for external ones. Crimea needs to be thoroughly cleaned, otherwise in a conflict there will be many who want to shoot in the back.
    1. +4
      24 July 2016 12: 08
      We need more stringent control on the Ukrainian-Crimean border: checking the database (by cutting off, or even arresting, the exposed Bandera) and taking fingerprints of all (ALL!) Entering citizens of the former Ukraine.
  10. +7
    24 July 2016 09: 25
    Implementation of metering devices / that is, water meters /. I was not lazy, I went and looked at the bills. Over the past month, 8 cubes for 2 family members. It turns out 133 liters per person per day. So the figures of 120-130 liters per person are quite acceptable. With regard to agriculture, then here we really need to learn from the experience of the state, in which, as Vysotsky sang "almost a quarter of our people," from Israel. Drip irrigation application = CORRECT! As Ilyich (not Lenin, but Brezhnev) used to say, the economy should be economical.
    1. 0
      24 July 2016 10: 20
      Quote: V.ic
      as Vysotsky sang "almost a quarter of our people" in Israel.


      If you are quoting, refer to the source.

      "And there is a quarter former our people. "
      1. 0
        24 July 2016 17: 00
        Quote: Parsec
        "And there is a quarter of our former people."

        Puncture, sir! Accepted. However, turning to the source, I found in your quote the absence of a hyphen.
        "And there a quarter of our former people. "
        1. 0
          24 July 2016 19: 54
          Quote: V.ic
          However, turning to the source, I found in your quote the absence of a hyphen.


          What is the source?

          "The texts are printed in accordance with those already published, recorded in the author's performance on records and tape recorders, as well as in accordance with the texts transferred to the publishing house by the widow of the poet Marina Vlady. The difficulty of publishing the collection lies in the fact that the author did not manage to prepare his book for publication - the compiler and the publishing house had to choose the most perfect in the artistic sense from many versions of the same poems, stanzas and lines. "

          Puncture two.
          1. 0
            24 July 2016 22: 21
            Quote: Parsec
            What is the source?

            There you go. In 1980, when he put on shoulder straps, the poet's texts were not yet published in large editions, and therefore errors appear. By the way, "My track" and "At my funeralа vampires came together, "I learned" The Ballad of a Plaster "from a tape cassette from a friend in 1973, when I re-glued a guitar" dressed on a collar "to the guys from the gateway and began to learn six-string chords. famous organ "were. Unlike you, I can now perform 10-15 songs by VS Vysotsky, albeit in a different key and without the characteristic" hoarseness ".
            Want some good advice? Go to the bazaar, buy a live rooster there (such a bird, male) and mingle with his chicken brains as much as your soul desires!
  11. +1
    24 July 2016 09: 44
    To hold a referendum in the Kherson region on joining the LDNR and the issue of water and vegetables has been resolved.
    They do not want to vote in an amicable way, to invite "polite people" in green uniforms.
    1. 0
      24 July 2016 21: 22
      Kherson region is the least pro-Russian of all regions of the South of Ukraine. In the postwar period, quite a lot of immigrants from Western Ukraine were resettled according to the organizational set.
  12. +4
    24 July 2016 10: 08
    The author of the article from the team "everything is lost! Everything is lost" or "I want EVERYTHING at once, a lot and now." Was in Crimea last September and this year in early July. But, for the life of me, I didn't see great problems with water! I drove the entire South Coast of Crimea, then I was in the north of Crimea and in Kerch - I never heard of the disaster. Yes, the water issue exists, but not in the way described. So, dear author, first walk across the Crimea, and only after that write. Crimea, of course, is not a CPK, but a lot of new and necessary things are being done. Give time and the issue of water will also be less acute.
  13. +1
    24 July 2016 11: 07
    If 50% of water is lost due to the "dilapidated" infrastructure, then it is completely logical not to engage in nonsense with desalination and drilling of kilometer-long wells, but to invest maximum funds and efforts in replacing communications, I think this will eliminate the water shortage forever. It is not clear why they do not do this, there are more opportunities for drinking, officials should be very interested, but here is silence. All in all, they will accept a program of the type - "clean water in every house" and get money from Moscow for it, they will give it.
  14. 0
    24 July 2016 12: 13
    According to the author’s tone, it seems that he is luring the Pentagon to attack the Crimea, silent about the possibilities of Russia to respond adequately. Perhaps he does not believe in these possibilities.
  15. +2
    24 July 2016 12: 38
    well, but in the Crimea a full-fledged force grouping should be deployed, including all types and types of ground forces with appropriate weapons, including tactical nuclear
  16. +6
    24 July 2016 14: 13
    Ukraine will never attack alone in the Crimea. Neither with special forces, nor with conventional forces. It is clear that the Ukrainian Armed Forces will not be able to be located throughout the theater of military operations, which means that they will inevitably be defeated in other sectors. No need to invent stupid scripts.
  17. +3
    24 July 2016 14: 24
    I honestly didn’t really like the article. There are many things that are not in the Crimea, and from everything you can make a problem if you wish. however, there are no unsolvable problems (energy bridge, for example) there are people who cannot or do not want to solve it! I liked the comments more. I learned a lot about desalination.

    But I do not want to say about this.

    And I want to support my friend about the rest in the south of Russia, or rather, not adequate prices for the so-called rest.
    Dear colleagues, I’m looking for a patriot, but when they try to take off my pants for this business, by weaning my hard-earned money by raising prices, I begin to resent and protest.
    It just turns out that a trip to Bulgaria, or Tunisia is not much more expensive than in our south. (in Anapa, soup for 60 rubles and a shitty hotel, such as Aunt Vali’s room from 500 per person. Without an air conditioner or to bring food and a tent too, many cook in order to save money (while laughing at the Ukrainians who brought fat and potatoes with them Paid beach, parking for cars)).
    When will the bridge be opened. prices in Crimea will soar up, motivating that it is necessary to pay for construction and people will go now anyway, and ordinary people will go abroad again. And the Crimean authorities will ask the government to help because no one wants to go.
    Many people having traveled abroad, to the south of Russia no more than a foot: for expensive, there is no service, rudeness, deception of sellers in the market, requisitions of traffic cops.
    Based on this, it can be said that the authorities and residents of these regions are counting on the help of the authorities, that they will drive vacationers.

    Quote: midshipman
    There should be a federal program on the electric, water and tourism industry of Crimea. Money can be both public (bonds) and private. Why do we need a Turkish coast, there is a coast of Crimea. I have the honor.


    Well, I’ve talked about this: give the state money. People’s money goes there with vacationers. I don’t need a Turkish coast, but I don’t print money, and my nerves are on the shore.
    I understand capitalism in our country:-Demand creates supply and all that. I don’t understand one thing, what are they trying to achieve by raising the prices of vacations?
    1. 0
      24 July 2016 17: 08
      With such prices, they raise the welfare of Turks and Bulgarians! They don’t want to understand one thing - you cannot drive people to such "rest" at gunpoint, and the financial capabilities of the State are also not unlimited. Time will put everything in its place.
  18. +4
    24 July 2016 16: 47
    It is not clear why the author separates Crimea from Russia. Who cares where the attack will be? To Sevastopol, to St. Petersburg or to Vladivostok? The consequences are the same for both Russia and the whole world - 3 world.
  19. +5
    24 July 2016 19: 49
    The colors are somewhat thickened in my unenlightened view. With water, as long as everything is all right. At least not worse than before. Rather, better. Therefore, comrade Aksyonov does not sleep after all. And as regards Ukraine, as Gleb Zheglov said, you don’t get a donut, not the Crimean Federal District. And my comrades are of the same opinion.
  20. +3
    24 July 2016 21: 06
    Dear Formucans ... almost almost directly on the topic ... here you are complaining about the high cost of rest in the Crimea .... but remember how everything took off in Sochi before the field and the Olympics? and remember the Soviet times, when resorts were ALWAYS expensive ... even then, and now it is a private business, and the state does not regulate the price of cherries, hotel, aunt Vali's soup, and so on ..... demand creates supply ... a classic ... and once again I want to urge what I did more than once, after reading the article, let's discuss and discuss it on the topic of the article, on the facts and events reflected in it, and not fly back to deep space ... thanks
  21. 0
    24 July 2016 23: 09
    Quote: svp67
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Even in the Crimea they are silent about this and tourists are not traveling from their own reservoirs.

    Anyone who tried Crimean vodka for a lifetime will remember its brackish taste. But now there are so many desalination technologies that it has long been worth taking care of this in the Crimea, especially since the water of the Black Sea is not the most salty.



    probably you do not know this region, the south of Russia, i.e. Kuban and the surrounding area, what kind of fresh water are you talking about ???? Manych, salty, Egorlyk ???? not better ... there are all rivers with a salty taste
  22. +1
    24 July 2016 23: 19
    Quote: proud
    My friends recently returned from the Crimea, so for a month they spit from local prices — sweet cherries in the season were half as expensive as ours in Belarus. Prices for excursions soared by 25-30 percent compared to 2013, while nothing really changed — just as there was a mess on the beaches and in the cities, the only thing that changed was the flags on the buildings! They said that next year it’s better to break it into Turkey or Georgia, in short anywhere, but not to the Crimea! I am not a supporter of Ukrainians as a whole, although I am a crest, but I still need a conscience!



    In slaves ???))), in a concentration camp ???))) is better in free Europe))) occupied since 45 ... year ?? the next year you will go to Ukraine))) there it will be cheaper for anyone, remember the main phone))))
  23. +1
    25 July 2016 07: 35
    Oh, Baikal water is the most delicious. Although our prices are "space" and higher for everything.
  24. +1
    25 July 2016 10: 12
    Even when the news showed the pipeline parts - I had a reason for pride! It was not in vain that he had to serve in the Fuel Service from 2004 to 2006. But before, in the Soviet Union, pipeline units were an important component in providing fuel to the advancing troops. 32 pipeline brigades were !!! Judging by the picture and the declared pumping capacity of 10000 cubic meters per day, these are three threads of PMTP-150. Oh, and we pumped water during exercises. Not imagining that it will come in handy after 10 years!)))
  25. +1
    25 July 2016 14: 11
    My parents on a farm, where rainwater and imported water, ordered 2 times a year a 4 m3 water truck, but this is the expense of the Primorye family per month. The locals, in my opinion, are extremely unpretentious in water quality and can safely drink brackish water from wells and small wells ... In Primorye, I, working in the office of the mining company, changed clothes daily and took a shower 2 times a day, but here you can go to wearing shorts all summer, swimming in the sea for 5 months and forgetting about civilization, but you can drink homemade wine instead of tea and fruit drinks, and there are fruits and vegetables from the garden ...
    1. +2
      25 July 2016 14: 24
      Quote: geologist
      but here you can go in the same shorts all summer, swim in the sea for 5 months and forget about civilization

      geologist wassat
  26. +2
    25 July 2016 22: 18
    Quote: proud
    My friends recently returned from the Crimea, so for a month they spit from local prices — sweet cherries in the season were half as expensive as ours in Belarus. Prices for excursions soared by 25-30 percent compared to 2013, while nothing really changed — just as there was a mess on the beaches and in the cities, the only thing that changed was the flags on the buildings! They said that next year it’s better to break it into Turkey or Georgia, in short anywhere, but not to the Crimea! I am not a supporter of Ukrainians as a whole, although I am a crest, but I still need a conscience!

    I'm resting in Georgia now, Batumi. It’s rotten here, I liked Crimea more. And the prices are high, a room in a private house is 42 dollars a day.

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