ZTZ-96B - application for victory

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[tulpar]

And the Germans refused to take part, probably afraid

[seti]

US and NATO are not threatening us? Do you believe it yourself? "Russia is rattling its weapons" - this phrase is especially alarming.

[Khariton]

The Chinese entered the excitement ... Let's compete!

[Temples]

The question is, why did Russia begin to escalate new tensions, incite militaristic and pseudo-patriotic hysteria?

Ub.lyudok why is it posted here?
Type of freedom of speech?
Judging by the statements, his tongue is better suited for licking the lord's backside.

[lelikas]

Quote: Temples

Ub.lyudok why is it posted here?
Type of freedom of speech?
Judging by the statements, his tongue is better suited for licking the lord's backside.

Well, why immediately mister? Gurkhan has a very efficient blog, with lots of interesting things. Apparently a man got up on the wrong foot.
But in essence of the article relating to technology, he correctly described everything.
And also, I liked how the photo showed the increased dynamics of the tank :).

[Monarchist]

As for the technique and how I determined the dynamics of the tank from the photograph, I am silent. Perhaps the author is a prodigy himself and his comrades are super smart people, but making NATO "white and fluffy" was clearly a hangover

[Altona]

Quote: Monarchist

I am silent about the technology and how I determined the dynamics of the tank from the photograph.

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In the photo there is junk. The chassis is the same T-72, the tower is a la "tiger-leopard". Well, some kind of "tuning", "sports" tank. Much also depends on the skill of the crew.

[BMP-2]

The author is a psychic and a descendant of Alan Chumak: he can determine the dynamics from a photograph - it's like joining NATO!

[Andrey K]

Quote: BMP-2

The author is a psychic and a descendant of Alan Chumak: he can determine the dynamics from a photograph - it's like joining NATO!

This "Blokher" developed a vigorous activity. Below is one of his pearls. "Mows" under the liberal, but in fact pours mud on people and technology.
Gur Khan Jul 20, 2016 17:46 p.m.
"... If Russia stops whipping up militaristic hysteria, perhaps NATO will consider this possibility. But before speaking for this, you would better reveal in more detail the" NATO plans ": how much, where and what they have placed" grams. " You can take into account the composition of the national armies of neighboring states, which are part of the NATO that threatens you. And then compare with the number of at least one ZVO. I hope this will be enough to understand who is really threatening whom. Well, also estimate the chronology of NATO's "deployment" in comparison with the activity of our "peaceful" army ... At least according to media reports - more serious analytics are not required here. In general, I advise you to change the party - they cry for you on Igor Korotchenko's blog ... "

Here is the very "fifth column" for you. And it doesn't smell of any interest in technology. Exceptional denigration of Russia and Russian. No agreement or objection will be accepted ...

[basal]

And what does the technique have to do with it? Do you seriously think that KAMAZ trucks participating in rally raids have anything to do with production cars? Yeah, they have the same KAMAZ nameplate)))). Well, who said tanks are prohibited from tuning? Is it in the rules?

Well, and that the author spread over the text - what are all the bastards? Incidentally, sporting events, in addition to advertising value, have the function of developing and testing new technical solutions. It is clear from the text that ours are developing and testing different options, and the Chinese have begun to do the same. Did they send papier-mâché tanks? No. You think ours is not interested in what they came up with? Can we begin to test tankers for doping? Yeah, the Chinese won, and we caught them in the toilet. Disqualification, damn it!

Yes, let them have fun, if only there was no war !!!

[SSR]

About Kamaz
After repeated victories, the point of participation was only serial cars.
Kamaz launched a vehicle for the needs of the Ministry of Emergency Situations..... The Ministry of Emergency Situations is happy - only you are not happy.

[basal]

Are you serious that serial cars are participating in rally raids? Perhaps they should go homologation, I do not argue, but in any case this is an exclusive project and piece assembly. By the way, the designers, workers and crews of KAMAZ have been proving to everyone for many years that they are the best in the world.

And I am dissatisfied with the fact that the author of the article diligently pursues the idea that the Russians were frightened of the Chinese and used dishonest methods. Yes, let the Chinese try, maybe they’ll finally come up with something sensible, they’ll not all do copying, then, look, we’ll learn.

In general, I see no reason to organize a sports competition from an interesting show. Tanks on the battlefield are competing. And not only among themselves. And here, well, let the guys ride, shoot for pleasure, I see no reason for tantrums.

[78bor1973]

You forgot about the logic that De Rooy is a constant participant in the rally, the car seems to have never been assembled in Russia, and it is not at all serial, but something cannot win in any way, MAN last won at the last Paris-Dakar before closing, they also seem to be on their own non-Russian, although there were times of ours on 406 "Moskvich" in international RALLY everyone did!

[Alekseev]

Quote: lelikas

Gurkhan has a very efficient blog

Is it gurkhan?
And for participation in the biathlon there must be standards: mass from and to, specific power is limited, otherwise it will come down to removing the armor by cutting or replacing body parts and forcing motors at the expense of the resource.
Those. purely sports cars will compete

[Uryukc]

Quote: Alekseev

there must be standards

It would be more interesting if only combat vehicles participated there without any tuning, but it seems that political will and control are needed for this.

[33 Watcher]

Quote: Temples

The question is, why did Russia begin to escalate new tensions, incite militaristic and pseudo-patriotic hysteria?

Ub.lyudok why is it posted here?
Type of freedom of speech?
Judging by the statements, his tongue is better suited for licking the lord's backside.

I went to his blog, yes ub ... doc. Commentators write that with a rotten little article, he snarls in response in a Ukrop-stubborn manner. He talks about "peaceful NATO".

[Psychologist]

Why, really hurts your eyes?

[aksakal]

Quote: Psychologist

Why, really hurts your eyes?

- oh, dear people, now we’ll draw you skulls, and you’ll be normal, you’ll be twice cranial-bones
Gurkhan is right - Americans They are not going to fight Russia... They themselves are not going to. But they would gladly fight Russia to the last Ukrainian, Pole or Balt. And they don't really need Russia itself - they want to repeat the goodies they got during the Second World War, when they emerged from the terrible crisis six years before the war with an economy that was more than half of the world's. Gurkhan is too narrow-minded, he should just talk about tanks and not get involved in politics, because he doesn't know anything about it. Shoemaker, don't talk above your boot!
Well, you too, turtle, don't interfere when the big guys are talking.

[Psychologist]

Why, really hurts your eyes?

[quote]

Quote: Psychologist

Why, really hurts your eyes?

What a heartburn tortured?

[Proud.]

Quote: Psychologist

Why, really hurts your eyes?

Of course it cuts you.

[dmi.pris1]

Read, on the "cap" in red and white - .. different opinions are expressed .. "Well, the authors will praise everything that they get, it will get better in their souls? Although the article has a minus. this one gets paid to NATO ..

Quote: Temples

The question is, why did Russia begin to escalate new tensions, incite militaristic and pseudo-patriotic hysteria?

Ub.lyudok why is it posted here?
Type of freedom of speech?
Judging by the statements, his tongue is better suited for licking the lord's backside.

[Turner38]

Can we find meldonium from them? Or at the extremes of mega some kind of rice?

[Uryukc]

Quote: Terner38

Can we find meldonium from them? Or at the extremes of mega some kind of rice?

Ours, too, stretched out. And in FIG then such a competition? It’s better to agree to do without cheating and refine the standards.

[CALL.]

So the US-NATO threat, in my opinion, is nothing more than a myth! But, after Russia began to rattle weapons, incl. and in the "sports" field, NATO was simply forced to respond adequately.

Accidentally NATO members accepted the countries of the former Warsaw Pact, the Baltic countries, armed Saakashvili and set her on us. They began to build missile defense areas against Iran, and all this was before Ukraine. They must be so peaceful. We saw their peacefulness in "sheep's clothing". And the strong is always powerless to blame !!!

[dima mzk]

Yes, they will again drag their pieces of metal stalled

[Andrey Yuryevich]

in Europe, military tank competitions were also resumed. This year, the Strong Europe Tank Chellenge took place there, and then the largest training exercise since 1989 "Anakonda-2016". I will note once again that these events are only a response to our "surprise checks" and "biathlon". Moreover, the answer is more thoughtful and meets the goals of improving combat training. To do this, it is enough to compare the rules of the competition, their regulations

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If everything is aimed at creating a beautiful show and PR effect,

then they have a check of the real level of training.

and the author is gaavavnyuk ... yap. we saw in sterile conditions, they are dull ...

[gladcu2]

set

In political terms, the author may be mistaken, but in everything else she is not very poorly versed.

Therefore, the article is definitely a plus.

We must separately thank the Chinese for an honest concession, showing their tank for the competition.

Surprised by their decision to put air filters on the tower. It seems there is a place under the tower. Apparently drove the tank in the wind tunnel and determined the place of least dust during movement.
Yes, there will not swallow water. However, the mobility of the tower was limited.

It looked like a tank for football, like in a potato ..

[gladcu2]

If we do not consider the article from the point of view of politics, we can conclude that the author interestingly described the technical situation.

But many commentators wedge on the mistakes of others. Therefore, I propose cons.

You already decide what the article is about NATO or about the technical tricks that the organizers of the competition made it possible to admit.

Either bring the rules in line or let's make "kartoshkin" tank football from virtual to reality.

It's not pleasant for the minus. They see the "red rag" and lose their mind.

This article is not about NATO, but about tanks.

[alexej123]

That is, let him write, let us "ignore" accusations of unleashing an arms race and tension? Well, they gave a slap in the face, substitute the other half, so that they would hit it too?

[Zulu_S]

Maybe the author needed to decide? And then the article seems to be about tanks, but if you look closely, about "Russian aggression".

[adept666]

If we do not consider the article from the point of view of politics, we can conclude that the author interestingly described the technical situation.

Yes, he wrote complete nonsense and this is just not considering the political color. Take for example this nonsense:

Moreover, the answer is more thoughtful and consistent with the goals of improving combat training. To do this, it is enough to compare the rules of the competition, their regulations. If everything is aimed at creating a beautiful show and a PR effect, then they have to check the real level of training. The most interesting thing is that in order to win in our biathlon, the crews are simply forced to violate the rules and instructions for operating the equipment. Hence the injuries of people and the breakdown of equipment. So, two T-72B3M tanks, after biathlon, had to be actually written off.

We have everything aimed at maximum proximity for the participants, and the show is for the spectators and there is nothing wrong with that because 1: the show gathers spectators and money 2: the show popularizes the army among the younger generation 3: it attracts new participants (it is always interesting to compete and test your strength without a real war with crews from other countries, to assess their level of moral, physical and military training). In addition, selection for these competitions is held in all tank units and there is already serious competition, the motivation to serve more responsibly, proactively and creatively increases. And it is in a real battle that they break the rules because the rules do not always = survival and completing the task, and injuries are in the army to be able to withstand all this there are not muslin young ladies in a car, but men and warriors. The equipment broke down? It means its reliability is not at a sufficient level and this is hello to the designers and technical personnel and this is an extra test of it in real combat conditions and to draw the right conclusions

You already decide what the article is about NATO or about the technical tricks that the organizers of the competition made it possible to admit.

An article of confusion, therefore, it is about everything in general and about nothing in particular. And the fact that someone tunes his tanks in this is not shameful because in a war (God forbid) you can meet with someone like that.

[Black Colonel]

This article is not about NATO, but about tanks.
This article is about that WE HAVE EVERYTHING BAD !!!

[aksakal]

Quote: Black Colonel

This article is not about NATO, but about tanks.
This article is about that WE HAVE EVERYTHING BAD !!!

- And also about the fact that the Russians are yellow earthworms, i.e. aggressors

[Foxmara]

Quote: gladcu2

If we do not consider the article from the point of view of politics, we can conclude that the author interestingly described the technical situation.

Quote: gladcu2

This article is not about NATO, but about tanks.

For what purpose are you contradicting yourself? Spring is over, autumn is far away.
From the point of view of technology, it is interesting, but this article is NOT ABOUT TANKS. And about what kind of Russians are dishonest, and NATO is peaceful. Everything else is just a technical canvas. The author writes well and understands technology, but the article is not about tanks. If about tanks, then that heavy political nonsense to which the inhabitants of VO sharply react would not exist at all.

[Black Colonel]

Apparently drove the tank in the wind tunnel
... and put slotted slats with boosters.

[Monarchist]

I agree with you: the author wrote with a hangover, or maybe he was thrown "green"? The entire course of history demonstrates what NATOmen are white and fluffy

[alexej123]

The same "fuse". As an analysis of a specialist - I'm wondering, I wanted to give a plus. The "Russian saber rattling" struck me in the eyes - that is, we openly sponsored, supported bloody coups all over the world, "fucked up" peacekeepers with a UN mandate (South Ossetia) from hailstones and tanks. Author, where do you live? Result - article MINUS.

[Ramzaj99]

I have not read the greater heresy for a long time.
The article was written by a couch strategist, with wild imagination)))

[demchuk.ig]

Quote: seti

US and NATO are not threatening us? Do you believe it yourself? "Russia is rattling its weapons" - this phrase is especially alarming.
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Unclear article, in terms of coverage of our position in relations with the West.

[dauria]

The US and NATO are not threatening us? Do you believe this author yourself?

This author needs a neighbor in the country with a double-barreled gun (and even a drinker). And so that after the "bubble" and shooting at the crows he would assure him of respect, love and eternal friendship. NATO has the potential - enough to consider it as a potential adversary. Even if they kiss passionately, the army will have to cook.

[78bor1973]

Just about for an afftor, until a rocket arrives at his house, there is no threat!

[ShturmKGB]

Worthy rivals are only good. Lose, we will draw conclusions and improve!

[Andrey Yuryevich]

ZTZ-96B - application for victory

- more interesting. among the 72x, we support the crews, and now also the equipment. the Chinese are great, they don’t complex, but draw conclusions.

[Lukich]

Quote: tulpar

And the Germans refused to take part, probably afraid

Yes, they will not allow the elementary Phasington Regional Committee

[Ronino]

Yes, in 1941 they already tried ...

[neri73-r]

tulpar DE Today, 15:53
And the Germans refused to take part, probably afraid

Yes, nuuu, they are, as it were, in "friends", well, in the sense, in the senior vassals they appear among the exceptional and also believe that there is nothing to compete with the dust of the Slavic (such as subhuman)! All the best Western ....... they believe in it !!!!!!

[Rozmyssel]

Is Russia to blame? And the fact that NATO bases are moving towards the borders of Russia in Poland, Czechoslovakia, the Baltic states of Romania, is it Russia’s fault, and is it that the Americans are smart in Ukraine, as they want, should Russia also turn a blind eye?
This journalist who had been paid would have to moderate his ardor in the stream of anti-Russian accusations, he is still far from the Clintonshe, but he needs to filter the top, such "experts".

[Andrewgross]

A special feature of the ZTZ-96A tanks, which performed in 2015, was their total relief in the compartment with an increase in power

They did nothing in the compartment with them. "Together" in the meaning "simultaneously" or "together" is written together.

[Igor V]

Grammar mistakes a whole bucket. I would like to wish the author to take a high school course in Russian.

[Vik66]

Technically and technologically competent article, however, it’s unpleasant to read how ate soaps ...

[Psychologist]

really hurts your eyes?

[Zulu_S]

Edit nick, change to truth

[Psychologist]

really hurts your eyes?

[Zulu_S]

Soul-expert RU Today, 17:07 ↑ New
really hurts your eyes?
Edit nick, change to truth

[79807420129]

Quote: Psychologist

really hurts your eyes?

Quote: Psychologist

really hurts your eyes?

Quote: Psychologist

Why, really hurts your eyes?

Quote: Psychologist

Why, really hurts your eyes?

You, murderer, is the poor fellow stuck? Or are you stuttering?

[Monarchist]

True definition

[Zulu_S]

I can’t assess literacy, but the aftertaste from the article is unpleasant.

[uskrabut]

On the other hand, tank biathlon is an excellent platform for developing innovations. By the principle of formula-1. First run on biathlon machines, and then implement on serial. There is nothing wrong with that, and advertising your equipment will not hurt.

[psiho117]

I didn’t understand one thing - among the Chinese, the tower doesn’t rotate ?!
Simply, judging by the photo - it is!

[Fregate]

Quote: psiho117

I didn’t understand one thing - among the Chinese, the tower doesn’t rotate ?!
Simply, judging by the photo - it is!

It seems like that.)) Maybe it has a small angle of rotation, if only to tighten a little to the target?

[lysyj bob]

The tank was specially tailored for "sports" purposes. Hence the placement of air filters on the tower. Connecting pipes are visible under the tower. In biathlon, a large turn of the tower is not needed, it is enough to turn a couple of degrees when firing, and the tank goes along the track with a forward looking tower.
PS Well, now sports tanks have appeared ...

[Igor V]

No fi ha. They shoot there, including in movement with the rotation of the tower.

[Fregate]

Quote: Igor V

No fi ha. They shoot there, including in movement with the rotation of the tower.

So this time the Chinese did not take this moment into account.))

[lysyj bob]

Quote: Igor V

They shoot there, including in movement with the turn of the tower

So they consider the short-term shutdown of filters not critical, probably. This is one Chinese god knows.

[Alex_Tug]

What to guess on coffee grounds. Let's see and evaluate. (you can look at the article for a campaign, now read freshly).

[erased]

And why did the author, in an article on technology, embody his vision of politics, even accuse Russia of aggression? This is so that it is easier to read about the Chinese, or that everyone nods at the machine - yes, they say, ay-yi, what we are! .. Uninterested ...
Each country prepares for top-level competitions. And even applies forbidden techniques, the example of not allowing our athletes to the Olympics is obvious here.
But why is the special training of the T-72 equated to "dishonesty"? Maybe we should speak at BT-7? Or on a cart? We put the best, albeit not serial. And everyone would do that, not just the Chinese, if they could. But everyone (EVERYONE!) Takes our tanks. They also do not want to lose dry. And it is right.
The technical review is interesting, but the second layer of the article makes you wonder - why is it for the author? Huh?

[Igor V]

Probably in order to earn money.

[Abbra]

I found the author of this opus, Aleksey Khlopotov, who writes a blog about tankers. The very first question that he was mockingly asked at the forum was this: "It turns out that all NATO plans to deploy troops near our borders are a response to the militaristic pseudo-patriotic tank biathlon! Alexey tell me as an analyst, if Russia does not conduct tank biathlon, will NATO have to withdraw its troops?"

A robust and moderately sarcastic question.

Of course, there are interesting facts in the article (and is it facts?). But it is saturated with something rotten. It was as if a donkey walking past a chamomile in a field (I apologize for the metaphor). However, the floor is for professionals. And in the end - the final word will be said by the results of biathlon!

[33 Watcher]

And here is Alexei's answer: If Russia stops whipping up militaristic hysteria, perhaps NATO will consider this possibility as well. But before speaking for this, you would better reveal in more detail the "plans of NATO": how much, where and what they have placed "grams". To the heap you can take into account the composition of the national armies of neighboring states, which are part of the NATO that threatens you. And then compare with the number of at least one ZVO. I hope this will be enough to understand who is really threatening whom. Well, also estimate the chronology of NATO's "deployment" in comparison with the activity of our "peaceful" army ... At least according to media reports, more serious analysis is not required here. In general, I advise you to change the party - they cry for you on Igor Korotchenko's blog ...
I think everything is clear to everyone ..?

[Abbra]

Listen33 Watcher, it’s you who went in the wrong direction! After the Cold War, the chronology of lies and hypocrisy of NATO and the West in general with regard to Russia exceeded and exceeds all permissible coefficients.

They tolerated us relatively when we were drab and wretched, and patiently looked at Yeltsin's drunken dances.

And now - a different story. Another time. Other layouts. Judging by your sayings, WE threaten NATO?

Before going to bed, I advise you to sing more often, at least to yourself, a song to the words of E. Yevtushenko "Do Russians want wars?"

And with regard to advice, where and with whom I communicate, and where "they cry for you," I will somehow decide myself. And where do you come from such clever guys? Are you, by any chance, a product of Chubais's "nanotechnology"?

[alexej123]

The observer gave the answer of the "author" of the article to the question. And in the end he asks us, did it become clear to us for "aftor" Khlopotov? And you, without understanding, began to throw up cons.

[Abbra]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaa ... So let dear 33 WatcherBefore giving out comments, I will once again go over the Russian language textbook, where they learn to put quotes, commas, dots, etc. in the right place.

[alexej123]

And why are you minus? Shown "aftor" in all its glory.

[Thompson]

One minus mine. I did not immediately notice the meaning of the last phrase. Quarrel

[maxim1987]

Now the ZTZ-96B MTO roof is a continuous grille over radiators, the front surface of which is significantly increased

one Molotov cocktail and a mustache

[maxim1987]

Now the ZTZ-96B MTO roof is a continuous grille over radiators, the front surface of which is significantly increased

one Molotov cocktail and a mustache

[Pilat2009]

Quote: maximNNX

one Molotov cocktail and a mustache

Any Usa tank, if you get close to it, the choice of tools is wide and varied, from throwing shirts on surveillance devices to a grenade at the barrel of a gun. Only try to get close first if you are not fools and the tank is operating with infantry cover

[Skubudu]

Sly Chinese, next year plastic armor will be hung to reduce weight ....

[HollyGremlin]

Interestingly, tanks without Chinese escorts? Or is it carefully masked, or do they hide nothing from us?

[Arikkhab]

1) "a number of photos clearly demonstrated significantly increased dynamics of the cars" - author did you at least understand what you wrote? How can you evaluate the dynamics from a photo, especially the growing one?
2) 'Our official propaganda presents them as a kind of innovative and even innovative approach to combat training. "Tank Biathlon" is, first of all, a political PR and a tool for putting together a pro-Russian military bloc "
it seemed to me that "Tank Biathlon" is primarily a show ....

[jjj]

Quote: ArikKhab

it seemed to me that "Tank Biathlon" is primarily a show ....

And then people get into a rage and really chopped

[Abbra]

And poorly to send "Merkava" to biathlon?

[MACCABI-TLV]

What else, this is a fighting machine, not a circus machine.

[alexej123]

Ah, got it. So T-72 in Syria and the Donbass circus somersaults gives out. I think that this is barmaleia and Ukrainian fascists from Teshek so bounce and disassemble into parts.

[Amurets]

I will not fully or partially quote the article. The review was done successfully. I want to note only that at such competitions, as well as on Formula 1, new technical solutions for serial cars are honed and most likely, in addition to improving racing cars, the Chinese will solve the problem of choosing the MTO for promising tank. Biathlon in Alabino contributes to this.

[Swed]

Everyone has their own military tricks, but the article exposes everything in such a way that Russia frankly cheats. This is not true. Healthy competition is always good for both China and Russia.

[Machete]

Technically well described.
But ...
If you believe the author, we ourselves are to blame for the fact that NATO is tearing to our borders, and almost tank biathlon is to blame ...

[SeregaBoss]

the trick is that the Canadian Army Cup is a thing of the past along with the Cold War. The question arises, why did Russia begin to whip up new tensions, stir up militaristic and pseudo-patriotic hysteria? In reality, in the military sense, no one threatens us!
Well, how to say it is not threatening, stupidly ready to destroy. A Pro in Romania and Poland is being built for skeet.

[Peacemaker]

We look forward to the next time plastic tanks without hatches, such as Formula 1 Light tanks are something. And why not at least put 90? Abrams with uranium armor and gift are not needed.

[Dimon19661]

What I hid and did not write in the article about the "biathlon tank" is one interesting fact that the Chinese did not take into account when preparing the vehicles, and which, as a result, allowed the Russian tankers not to disgrace (it must be admitted that despite the realities of life, biathlon still revealed a very low level of training of our crews)
This is a bit unclear - who has the tall one then???
And another question, how can one conclude on the type of installed diesel engine on the back of the MTO ??? Only on the basis of good cooling? Feeling, the author got acquainted with the tips, but he doesn’t understand the essence. By the way, about the higher mobility of Chinese tanks compared to 72 I heard before biathlon 2015.

[Amurets]

Quote: Dimon19661

And another question, how can one conclude on the type of installed diesel engine on the back of the MTO ??? Only on the basis of good cooling? Feeling, the author got acquainted with the tips, but he doesn’t understand the essence. By the way, about the higher mobility of Chinese tanks compared to 72 I heard before biathlon 2015.

I agree with you completely. Any highly accelerated diesel engine requires efficient cooling. Not only coolant and oil, but also cooling charge air.

[x.andvlad]

Despite the detailed technical engineering arguments (I will not talk about knowledge) of the author, for his ugly arguments about Russia, the article is minus.
Let's look at the "Chinese miracle". Maybe it's a plywood vaabche with a 2000 l / s engine?

[silver_roman]

I read the article with pleasure, I think I’ll put it as +, the author is beautiful, and then babaaaaaah:

The question is, why did Russia begin to escalate new tensions, incite militaristic and pseudo-patriotic hysteria?

War with the USA is a guaranteed mutual nuclear destruction.

Have you heard about missile defense? I think you are an erudite and knowledgeable person, it makes no sense to suck the essence of missile defense as an offensive system 100500 times. The ground can operate as strike complexes at the locations of our strategic nuclear forces, and the BIUS AJIS, along with the RIM - ** missiles, are caught by our ICBMs in the upper stages. So much effort and money is not thrown out for the sake of PR.

But yes, we are pumping, on our territory we are chasing tanks. Are you fucked up, peace-loving Myrikans at the border are already mobilizing battalions, digging mines with all your hands with shovels to fight Iran, Korea ... and dandruff ?!

Really, militarily, no one is threatening us

Well, yes, in the 17th century they went, 18 went, on the 20th go to us, but at 21st, nonsense, they won’t come, why do they need all this?
in short, the author, it feels like you have schizophrenia. No offense!

But, after Russia began to rattle weapons, incl. and in the "sports" field, NATO was simply forced to respond adequately

Reply???? ANSWER b ** ???? Who swore NATO not to expand? This is not saber rattling in your opinion? Chechen wars, "Kursk", terrorist attacks in the Russian Federation, Georgia, South Ossetia, Abkhazia, UKRAINE ... do these words mean anything to you? And you dare to write such nonsense ?????? sorry for the censorship on the site!

[Abbra]

Respected silver_roman ! Correctly you noticed and appreciated everything.

[Psychologist]

A good article, without hatred. What is especially lately famous for any mention of the army of the Russian Federation.
Especially delivered truthful: it is no secret that in the "Tank Biathlon", according to the organizers' plan, only and exclusively the Russian team should win.
I remember how in the first biathlon ours rode on the most modern tank, and all rivals were given outdated junk.
I hope this time the Chinas show themselves. It’s not good for us to see all the fools and handshakes. So one day you can run into a lot. This is what Song Ji said.

[silver_roman]

Quote: Psychologist

It was especially true that it was no secret that in the "Tank Biathlon", according to the plan of the organizers, only and exclusively the Russian team should win.

and you never wonder why the Greeks, who are not particularly in football, win Euro 2004, the Japanese and Koreans are very worthy (far from typical), taking the World Cup in 2002?
Now the French have taken the Euro at home, although the French team is already a favorite, but nonetheless.

That, and it seems to me, it is better to build your weapons in this way, and not like the Yankees, starting a war and destroying hundreds of thousands of people!

[Psychologist]

PR is a million times more effective if it is HONEST!

[silver_roman]

OL by definition cannot be honest. Imposing your opinion (products) on a potential "client" through marketing and other manipulations. By the way, like marketing, PR was created in the west, and the west came to that. what is more profitable to bomb the country into the Stone Age, and then make them pay for their products. You can still make a revolution. An example is Saudi Arabia.

[Zulu_S]

Quote: Psychologist

PR is a million times more effective if it is HONEST!

Honest, it seems this is not about you, respectable.

[Psychologist]

PR is a million times more effective if it is HONEST!

[alexej123]

The Portuguese took the euro, the French at home only cried.

[Mentat]

From the article, it’s not just a darling, but frankly lures.

The question is, why did Russia begin to escalate new tensions, incite militaristic and pseudo-patriotic hysteria?

The question is, are such authors and such articles on the VO needed?

This message is masked under a pile of text: "Russia is fueling militaristic hysteria."

[Psychologist]

And you only need custom articles, how is everything pistol in mother Russia?
On the contrary, such critical articles need as much as possible !!!

[Zulu_S]

Where did you find criticism there? There, paragraphs are just woof napolshchina. Forward to the echo. There they are waiting with open arms. What did you forget here?

[Psychologist]

And you only need custom articles, how is everything pistol in mother Russia?
On the contrary, such critical articles need as much as possible !!!

[alexej123]

So their SHAFT - read the builds, the schmilds are different and you will be satisfied. Everything you have will be MENTALLY. Change your nickname to RUSOFOB. You position yourself honest? So it will be HONEST.

[Zulu_S]

Again Russia threatens the whole world?
How do some authors have the conscience to squeeze an ideological lining with a doc into the articles of interest of a completely technical plan? Conscience for this is not necessary. Rather, its complete absence is required!
There is a huge MINUS for this article !!!

[Backfire]

The author began to disassemble the Chinese tank, but then for some reason moved to Russia where is the point?

[alexej123]

So in "Bad Russia" was the main point of the article. The rest is just to attract the attention of people interested in tanks.

[Psychologist]

The point is that if someone starts playing dishonestly (as Russia did in 2014), then the rest will start to do the same.

[Rustam009]

It is necessary to introduce doping control and remove the Chinese

[Monarchist]

The article left some sort of ambiguous impression: the author seems to be constantly trying to evaluate the merits of the tanks participating in the competitions. On the other hand, there is an attempt to accuse the Russian Federation of unleashing a new arms race and of cheating. Such a feeling that the article was specially paid for by our "well-wishers". Now regarding the ZTZ96B: in my opinion, there may be another point of view and therefore we will wait. A request to respond to specialists, and in Idial a biathlon participant

[imugn]

He contradicts himself: first he says that tank biathlon has nothing to do with combat training, then - that this is our NATO provocation, then NATO exercises in Europe that meet "the goals of improving combat training"
I didn't read any further - I wanted to spit on such an article

[Psychologist]

Yeah, still pray and sprinkle your eyes with holy water, maybe the truth will stop cutting your eyes.

On the other hand, an attempt to accuse the Russian Federation ..... of cheating

And why blame, only the blind did not see how in 2014 we all "honestly" galloped on the most sophisticated tank. It may be enough to close our eyes to the openly unsportsmanlike behavior of our team.
I’ll see how our people roll, if the biathlon is muddied in China.

It seems that the article was specially paid for by our "well-wishers".

Not tired of seeing the State Department’s machinations everywhere? How are you then different from Ukrainians in all seeing Putin's hand?

[vasek-3180]

Can someone tell me why not put t-90s on biathlon?

[alexej123]

I think not many countries have it.

[Furious bambr]

Leave photos, and delete the fucking article!

[kov123]

There is doubt about the technical information provided. The author is now at the level of the "head of the GBTU", now at the level of the "chief engineer of the Chinese team." Paphos and the Compilation of Tank Information, seasoned with phrases from the State Department manual ...

[Kudrevkn]

Immediately you can see the German design - does it hurt like the "tigers" of the Second World War of Ferdinand Porsche? Well, wait - let's look at this miracle - Yuda German - Chinese in "business" ?!

[APASUS]

If you do not touch on that part of the nonsense that the author allowed himself to do with the whitewashing of NATO, then I would like the Americans, Germans, and French to take part in this competition on their equipment. Of course, there is a watered economy who will buy losing tanks, but not everything depends on the piece of iron .
In fact, there is a crew competition, not a tank biathlon, then all of our tanks were, but the appearance of the Chinese should also reveal technical solutions, as in the -1 formula of the Designers Cup!

[Brigadier]

It looks like the article was written by some Maidan's pravopitek, the "facts" are too biased, and the installation is clearly visible to latent belittling the capabilities of our machines when juggling words about their performance characteristics ...
But the author for some reason (I suppose - intentionally) forgot that a "tank" is not only a power plant, which is mainly written about here, but also the totality of all other elements ...
The phrase - "speed, armor, fire" should always be understood only in aggregate, and not in isolation from each other, as we clearly see in this article. But it is precisely this "aggregate" that makes our enemies terribly afraid of our tanks and scream about possible Russian "tank breakthroughs" through Suwalki and other places!
And if you focus only on the power of the car, it will turn out like in a parable, when three blind sages tried to explain what an elephant is, touching it for different places separately ...

[ingenera]

Great review. Only or not the tankman wrote or not about that. It's about tank biathlon, right? And what have the sights, the LMS and the engine power? No, if you smear all the time, and then cut the penalty circles, then speed is needed, of course. In general, judging by the fact. as we were taught, this is not shooting, but comedy. From a place, from a flat concrete platform, with good visibility, at ridiculous distances. In 1971-73, we did the same on the T-34-85 and T-55. Yes, in KDVO then there was such a technique. With a miss from the gun - the score was 2 points and the machine gun could no longer shoot. And the anti-aircraft machine gun (DShK) was shot not at a fucking shield, depicting a helicopter. and on a rocket on a parachute. Bullshit this tank biathlon. Although spectacular.

[Voenoboz]

Some of the intricacies of the fifth column, and how cleverly it hones, but we know about ideological processing. Very many understood this. Our bread lives with us and it is blasphemed. What will we do?

[S_Baykala]

1) Tanks are inflated with meldonium! Deprive them of gold medals in years through 5!
2) A tuned car (with a good mechanic) will tear apart a sports car several orders of magnitude more expensive.
3) How I envy our narrow-eyed brothers (given the number of victims (!) During our conflicts for 500-600 years, they are definitely brothers to us, without a "star") !! Put a bolt all over the world (copyright? Technology? Ugh on you!).
Tank biathlon is just a comparison of ratings, without combat use.
I am proud of my ancestors, who won the most important "tank biathlon": they tore the most technologically advanced and cool (at that time) tank troops (technologies?) Of the union of the gay European states (the then EU) to shreds with our "poor" and "primitive" tanks (airplanes, machine guns, cannons, etc.).

So where are your vaunted technologies? Which were shattered into dust by our grandfathers, fathers and great-grandfathers?
P.s. I apologize: a lot of confusion and emotions, a little off topic: Friday, evening, bubble, etc.
Let them feel cool (putting tuned cars against serial cars), but we remember: a month (1945) was enough for our grandfathers for the super-cool Japanese group (which "blighted" all of China (every 10 times more in population) for several years , ceased to exist ...

[Poplar505]

1. Why, referring to the fact that the rivals T-72 is not in service, do the Chinese appear on tanks of their own production?
2. Why are competition rules forbidden for each country to perform on the latest domestic cars?
3. Of course, - the training of the crews of the tank will be mildly worthless. 12 months of service is about nothing. (in the missile division, the so-called Topol mech-water MAZ-543 received the necessary driving skills and maintenance of the fixed unit only after 13-14 months of service, moreover, the first 6 months: give the key, wipe it here, keep it here, keep it here - it's in the most optimal version. So the crew is only contract soldiers ??? So we are fooling ourselves !!!
4. So this biathlon is just bullshit and it does not give a real picture either about the state of military equipment (it is "spoiled" in order to make it ....), nor about the quality of preparation of combat crews, nor about a possible combat situation on the field battle.
5. And if we recognize all this "kitchen" from the inside, then we will begin to spit.
Or am I wrong?

[Wasiliy1985]

Chet nonsense begins from the very second paragraph of the article:
1) As for "Ushka" it did not help. And you know why? Because the biathlon track was specially designed for diesel tanks. The GTE spins up for a long time, and therefore does not like sharp acceleration and deceleration - a car with a turbine flies like a swallow on long straight sections. But short sections with many turns and obstacles are the lot of cars with diesel engines, especially diesel engines with driven superchargers.By the way, this circumstance predetermined good results of the teams that performed on conventional T-72B with a V-84M engine (840hp). which instead of turbocharging was PNTs. " - complete crap !!!
At work, a colleague - a mechanic drive of a turbine T-80, tells the delivery of a course problem: "Gas to the floor, the turbine spins up to screeching, I let go of the" mountain ", while the box is on the second. hatch-on combat) !!!
As for the T-80, you can read from Murakhovsky. (Not Marakhovsky, namely Murakhovsky).

[Berkut24]

Something tells me that for an existing far from smooth and even competition strip, an engine for 1500 horses is an overkill. Arabs a couple of years ago on this highway and with an engine of 780 horses managed to topple their T-72s onto the tower on a bend.

[Uryukc]

Quote: Berkut24

Something tells me that for the existing far from smooth and even competition strip the engine for 1500 horses

+ wild fuel consumption, increased wear and a biting price tag of the engine. All these tunings will turn the tank biathlon Formula 1 with shooting.

[Berkut24]

Yes, to hell with it, with wear. There is enough fuel for one stage, the tank can be filled for a quarter. For the Chinese, driving away several stages to advertise their boxes is enough.
In a combat vehicle, the balance of "necessity - sufficiency - price" characteristics is important. The Chinese in life are in some kind of eternal experiment, as with gadgets. It seems to work, but in some places there is some sort of overkill with sparkles and incomprehensible bells and whistles, which, in fact, is called Chinese.

[Uryukc]

Yes, I mean, I would like to see a competition of battle tanks, and not something that just reminds them in appearance. I agree about the Chinese, it’s not even Chinese, but the Far East as a whole (Koreans, Japanese, etc.).

[Victor Wolz]

It would be nice if T-90 and T-80 took part in our teams, for example Russia-1 (on T-72) Russia-2 (on T-80) and Russia-3 (on T-90). Of course, you can equalize the chances by T-72 extra seconds.

[warriordima]

The author is Russophobe, but when he mentions Russia for some reason he writes "our", hmm. it's strange how you can consider yourself a part of the people and at the same time throw mud at it, some kind of cognitive dissonance.

P.S-Modernized T-80 I would also like to see at the future biathlon.))

[SAA]

Strange article. As if the author is trying to prove that in any sport we have doping. That in ordinary competitions, that of the military. This is how myths are born.

[iouris]

Both tanks and tankers must be subjected to doping control.

[Zlyden.Zlo]

If only they didn’t get hooked on meldonium

[Zlyden.Zlo]

After reading this article, there is a desire to immediately wash your hands. There is only one wish for the affector to leave for enlightened Europe and enjoy democracy and tolerance.

[Titsen]

Quote: SAA

Strange article. As if the author is trying to prove that in any sport we have doping. That in ordinary competitions, that of the military. This is how myths are born.

Not a weird, but rather a haunted and very unpatriotic article.

Some kind of stink pulled the Canadian-Americanos ...

[dustycat]

Not just patriotic.
Patriotism is purely monetary. In the currency of payment.
I just want to live in comrade in America, but I don’t have to do nichrome like on my sofa.

[Lord_Bran]

I can catch the author lying at least three times, as I was on the Biathlon twice, lived next to the tankers of all participating countries and talked a lot:
- Ours did not learn to drive tanks in factories, because ours had one conscript in one crew, and two in the second. And they came from their districts according to the test results. Is it a precise information.
- The Chinese are VERY bad at owning their cars. VERY. Only the Mongols are steeper than them, who in the first biathlon sank two tanks in a ditch. Plus (or rather, minus) - the Chinese technique is extremely unreliable. The caterpillars alone break regularly. And the engines praised by the author often fail, which forces the Chinese to call a "remka" on the field, which is why they are waiting for an incredibly long time.
- ALL participants are invited to come in their cars. Everyone, except the Chinese, rent cars from us, from the Moscow Region. They don’t bring their cars. Nobody bothers them to finish their chariots and tear everyone and everything. But - for some reason - they’re not being taken.
So, lied once (three times) ...

[Just a man]

If an article begins with gross lies and rigging of facts, one can say 100 percent that there will be a Russophobic article interspersed with truth. You will read again the phrase - "The fact is that when the Americans agreed to participate in the 2014 season competitions in their Abrams equipped with a 1500-strong gas turbine engine, in the Russian Defense Ministry the people got a little frightened - it is no secret that in the Tank Biathlon, according to the plan of the organizers, only and exclusively the Russian team "Blatant and stupid lies in all respects should win."

[Berg berg]

Just as a joke - "As previously announced by the American combat biathlon team, they will come to the competition in an American T-72B3M tank specially created in America for competition!"

[Berg berg]

So far, this is a current publicity. It was previously stated if anyone remembers when the participating countries will come to the tank biathlon with their tanks, then Russia will also introduce other tank developments. Yes, and a prize pool is needed for interest. And participants who arrived without tanks must fully pay for them and be able to upgrade them by their standards without violating the combat and defense structure of the fighting vehicle!

[Anatoly]

One of the most important factors on the battlefield for a tank is the search and detection of a target, as well as its identification, which is not the case in tank biathlon.

[Lieutenant colonel]

I especially laughed at the phrase about a short-term increase in power to 1400 liters on the T-80 (what kind of modifications are UE and UA - they look like words from a song!!!) - does this mean that you need to stop the car, remove the limiters and.... forward?!
Has the author heard about the T-80 only from “friends”?
The T-80 AS (U) modification has a GTD 1250 engine - but this power is STAND, the power on the bus is 1200 l/s, on previous models of the vehicle the engine is GTD-1000, the power is STAND, the power is 970 l/s.
The T-80 is not afraid of turns or slopes - the car is braked as standard - with the RSA pedal (adjustable nozzle apparatus pedal) and not the gas pedal. When working with the standard controls, the T-80 easily goes 480-490 km (this is about fuel efficiency) - the author is incompetent in what he writes about.
Determine the engine power from the photo - pearl. Where did he see two cooling system fans?

[Rozmyssel]

Is Russia to blame? And the fact that NATO bases are moving towards the borders of Russia in Poland, Czechoslovakia, the Baltic states of Romania, is it Russia’s fault, and is it that the Americans are smart in Ukraine, as they want, should Russia also turn a blind eye?
This journalist who had been paid would have to moderate his ardor in the stream of anti-Russian accusations, he is still far from the Clintonshe, but he needs to filter the top, such "experts".

[dustycat]

Yes, we, the occupiers, are like that.
The main thing is to win, but how and who... is not important.
Determining the type of engine by the exhaust air grilles is cool.
(although the same solution for a T55-based armored vehicle comes from nowhere, it’s just convenient)
Well, yes, no one knows how to make engines better than the Germans. From the point of view of Vyrus.
Japan? Well, what are you...
Korea? Can't be!
China? Yes, you ate too much henbane padded jacket! Oh no, not like that.. Yes, you got drunk on cotton wool with glass wash!
Yes, cotton wool, but the valiant defenders recently got drunk on methanol-based glass cleaner.
It started out normal, but ended with stupid anti-Russian propaganda.
2000 SGA bases around the world? Wow, they're so cute...
They are simply putting the entire NATO world on their military-industrial complex.