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Project for the modernization of the main tank AMX-56 Leclerc Renove (France)

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Currently, the armed forces of France are preparing to carry out modernization under the Scorpion program. Within the framework of this project, it is planned to update the equipment and equipment fleet of various types of armed forces. It is supposed both to develop and build completely new models of military equipment, and to modernize existing ones. In particular, the modernization of the existing main combat tanks. A project has already been developed with the designation Leclerc Renove (or Leclerc R), which will allow the continued operation of existing tanks while maintaining acceptable performance.

The modernization program for the existing main battle tanks AMX-56 Leclerc was launched in March last year. Nexter was commissioned to upgrade existing armored vehicles in order to improve its basic characteristics. The main requirements for the modernization project, designated Leclerc Renove, relate to increasing the level of protection and enhancing firepower. In addition, it was necessary to update the on-board radio-electronic equipment in order to ensure compatibility with modern and promising means of communication and control. It was also planned to apply some other innovations.

The implementation of the Leclerc Renove program was allocated 330 million euros. For this money, the contracting company had to develop a new project, and then arrange for the repair and renovation of serial tanks from combat units. In accordance with the plans of last year, the tank modernization program should be completed before the end of this decade. By 2020, the required modernization will be two hundred main tanks and 18 repair-evacuation vehicles DCL, built on their base. The fate of the remaining one and a half hundred armored vehicles has not yet been determined. Apparently, they are supposed to be left without updating.

Project for the modernization of the main tank AMX-56 Leclerc Renove (France)
The exhibition sample of the upgraded tank. Photo Vpk.name


The AMX-56 Leclerc design was developed in the late eighties. In 1992, the French army received the first production armored vehicles of a new type. Later, several modernization projects were developed, which implied the use of this or that additional equipment. Also developed variants of technology, adapted for use by some foreign customers. Currently, Leclerc tanks are in service with France and the United Arab Emirates. The emergence of new export contracts is also not excluded.

In accordance with the changing nature of modern armed conflicts in the middle of the last decade, a tank modernization project was created, aimed at increasing the resilience of vehicles in urban fighting. It was proposed to carry out the modernization of the AZUR project by installing a set of additional equipment on the existing tank. The retrofit package included a set of additional protective equipment, including against cumulative ammunition, communications equipment, and additional devices for monitoring the surrounding space. In addition, the tank should be equipped with additional communication systems to coordinate with the infantry.

The development of a new modernization project, designed to bring tanks into full compliance with current requirements, began last spring. About a year later, the specialists of the contracting company completed all the necessary work and carried out the modernization of one of the serial "Leclerc", the result of which was the appearance of a prototype tank. In the middle of June of this year in Paris, the Eurosatory-2016 exhibition was held, during which the company showed for the first time an experienced Leclerc Renove tank. In one of the pavilions of the exhibition was presented a tank, which received a set of additional equipment of a particular nature.

A new modernization project involves upgrading armored vehicles through the installation of various types of equipment. At the same time, the main part of the structural elements of the tank should remain without noticeable changes. From the available data it follows that all applied minor modifications of the hull, etc. connected exclusively with the need to install new equipment. Interestingly, in the new project of upgrading armored vehicles it is proposed to use some elements of already existing types, borrowed from previous developments, such as AZUR.

In its basic configuration, the AMX-56 received an armored hull using combined frontal projection protection and homogeneous reservations for other sections. According to available data, later series tanks received armor reinforcement in the form of additional elements of titanium and tungsten. When an adversary uses armor piercing piercing shells, the frontal part of the hull and turret provides protection at the level of a homogeneous reservation at the level of 600-650 mm, against cumulative ones up to 1200 mm. Other parts of the hull and turret are protected from fire from small weapons and small-caliber artillery, as well as from splinters.

The Renove project proposes to equip the tank with a set of additional protection measures aimed at countering various threats. Hinged blocks of dynamic protection, lattice screens, as well as special soft mats should be installed on different parts of the hull and tower. With their help, the tank will be able to increase protection against various threats. Thus, dynamic protection will allow it to reduce the risks associated with the use of opponents of cumulative and sub-caliber ammunition, cutting screens will protect against anti-tank grenades, etc. weapons, and the task of soft hinged blocks is a smooth deceleration of ammunition, which prevents their operation.

Thus, after upgrading, a set of auxiliary systems are added to the tank’s own armored hull, significantly increasing the resistance of the vehicle to attacks with various weapons and from different angles. Also, the security kit is supplemented with additional modules installed on the bottom of the case. With their help, the tank's resistance to various explosive devices is improved. Interestingly, to protect against mines and improvised explosive devices is proposed to apply not only additional booking, but also the corresponding radio-electronic devices. The Renove kit includes a system for jamming and suppressing control channels for explosive devices.

The new project does not provide for a change in the composition of the power plant or the processing of the chassis. Thus, in the aft hull, it was proposed to retain the existing Wärtsilä V8X 1500 diesel engine with power up to 1500 hp. Also remains in its place a gas turbine auxiliary power unit, responsible for the generation of electricity for various systems. The transmission of the tank is based on the hydromechanical gearbox and should not be changed either.

Despite a slight increase in combat mass, the tank retains the existing undercarriage. On each side of the hull is mounted on six dual rubberized rollers with individual hydropneumatic suspension. The layout of the chassis with front guides and stern drive wheels, as well as with several supporting rollers does not change.


AMX-56 in base configuration. Photo of Wikimedia Commons


Certain changes have been proposed for the armament complex, although they do not affect the main weapon. The main means of defeating targets after upgrading remains 120-mm smoothbore gun CN120-26 with a barrel length 52 caliber. The gun mates with an automatic loader with mechanized stacking on an 22 shot placed in the isolated aft compartment of the tower. Another 18 ammunition is stored on the racks and must be fed to the gun manually.

The Leclerc tank initially carries a twin AAN F1 type 7,62 mm machine gun. In addition, the new modernization project proposed the use of an additional combat module that increases the capabilities of the armored vehicle for protection against various targets at short distances. The combat module with remote control, a set of optical-electronic systems and a machine gun caliber 7,62 mm is proposed to be mounted on the roof of the tower. With the help of this system, it is planned to defend against enemy infantry at short distances, including in the conditions of urban development.

Modernization of the project Leclerc Renove also implies the broadest use of new radio-electronic systems designed to improve the fighting qualities. The main means of achieving such goals is the SICS information management system (Système d'information et de Commandement Scorpion), which unites all communications and fire control equipment into a common set. With the help of the SICS system, the upgraded tank will be able to communicate with any equipment equipped with similar equipment, and operate effectively in the general structure of the troops built as a result of the Scorpion program. The possibility of a quick transfer of data on detected targets, the current situation, etc. In addition, the transfer of commands and other information is provided.

The communication and control system SICS is connected with new communication equipment designed to transfer all the necessary data to both the tank and to itself. Also, the armored vehicle receives a “friend-foe” identification set, which allows to avoid a possible attack by friendly troops.

In the course of the new modernization project, it was decided to a certain extent to simplify and cheapen the training of tankers. To do this, the upgraded equipment must receive an integrated shooting training kit based on laser equipment. Such equipment is expected to allow full preparation of the gunners and tank commanders with a sharp reduction in the cost of ammunition needed for training.

The company-developer during the first demonstration of an experienced tank, upgraded to a new project, argued that all the basic elements used in upgrading technology, have already passed all the necessary checks. Moreover, the means of modernization of the tank were tested not only at the test sites, but also in conditions of real combat operations. Successful confirmation of the design characteristics in the course of such inspections made it possible to include certain elements in the complex of additional equipment proposed for use when updating tanks.


Leclerc Renove under camouflage nets after an attack. Photos Otvaga2004.ru


According to various sources, work on the Lecler Renove project will continue in the very near future, and now we are talking about the imminent beginning of the restructuring and modernization of serial tanks that are in the army. Until the end of this decade, the French Defense Ministry and the defense industry intend to modernize two hundred tanks and 18 repair-evacuation vehicles DCL, created on the basis of AMX-56. The total cost of this program is estimated at 330 million euros. The fate of the rest of the tanks available to the combat troops of France is not reported.

The Leclerc Renove project will have several major implications. First of all, it will significantly improve the tactical and technical characteristics of the existing armored vehicles, as well as improve the features of its interaction with other technicians, infantry, etc. in a real conflict. In addition, integration into communication and control systems developed within the framework of the Scorpion program will make it possible to unleash the full potential of technology. Finally, in the course of the modernization, Leclercs will also undergo repairs. Restoration of machines and their individual units will extend the life of the equipment, so that they can remain in service for two decades, until the end of the thirties.

According to various sources, to date, only one tank has undergone a complete modernization process, which was later shown at Eurosatory-2016 and sent for testing. Interestingly, this tank had to face some dangers not only at the landfills, but also in the exhibition hall. On the very first day of the exhibition in Paris, some “activists” tried to stain the experienced armored vehicle with paint, but the security guard of the event and the employees of the developer quickly stopped hooliganism and handed the detainees to the police. Due to the inability to remove the stains left after such an attack, Nexter employees were forced to cover them with camouflage nets.

The project to upgrade the main battle tanks AMX-56 Leclerc is one of the main components of the promising program Scorpion. Also in the course of this program, the French army plans to develop and put into service several models of wheeled armored vehicles, new weapons for it, as well as various communication and control systems. By the end of this decade, all project participants must complete the development of new projects, as well as experience promising technology. The first batches of new armored vehicles and support systems are planned to be received in the mid-twenties, however, some elements of the Scorpion program have already been brought to mass production.


On the materials of the sites:
http://nexter-group.fr/
http://defenseindustrydaily.com/
http://militaryparitet.com/
http://defense-update.com/
http://vpk.name/
http://otvaga2004.ru/
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/


Detailed photographic overview of the tank Leclerc Renove:
http://otvaga2004.ru/tanki/tanki-fotogalereya/leclerc-renove-azur-fotoobzor/
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  1. Tsoy
    Tsoy 22 July 2016 06: 04
    +7
    After modernization it will become even more expensive, nobody needs it anyway. Only the 10 and K2 types are more expensive. And the weight is more and more with each series. Already close to 60 tons came up. His engine is by the way Finnish from Wärtsilä.
    1. Leto
      Leto 22 July 2016 06: 56
      +14
      Quote: Choi
      After modernization, it will become even more expensive

      Are there modernizations that reduce cost?
      Quote: Choi
      nobody needs him anyway

      Well hello. He needs the French in the first place. By this principle, you can spit in the direction of the Merkava, they say no one buys it.
      Quote: Choi
      And the weight is more and more with each series.

      This is inevitable. T-90 is heavier than T-72, Armata is heavier than T-90, start sprinkling ash on your head.
      Quote: Choi
      His engine is Finnish by the way from Wärtsilä.

      Finns make good diesel engines all over the world in demand. In Soviet times, they were purchased in large quantities.
      1. Malkor
        Malkor 22 July 2016 08: 33
        +6
        Are there modernizations that reduce cost?

        That Leclerc is a very expensive tank, despite the fact that modernization makes all tanks more expensive, a very expensive tank will be even more expensive - this is what is meant here. .
        Most likely it will be an extreme modernization of the Leclerc; the Germans bought the French tank company. Leclerc will not receive his continuation, the next will be a new version of the leopard.
        The main enemy of our tanks should be considered Abrams, released in a truly large series. Leclerks and leopards are less than a thousand. After the Abrams fell into the hands of the Iraqi army and began to participate in real hostilities, lo and behold, it turned out that they explode beautifully, knock out, etc. I think the same with leopards and leclerks.
        1. Skubudu
          Skubudu 22 July 2016 11: 38
          +7
          Quote: Malkor

          After the Abrams fell into the hands of the Iraqi army and began to participate in real hostilities, lo and behold, it turned out that they explode beautifully, knock out, etc. I think the same with leopards and leclerks.

          Perhaps this indicates the inability of the Iraqi army to correctly apply the Abrams ...
          1. Malkor
            Malkor 22 July 2016 23: 14
            0
            maybe everything can be
            1. Bad_gr
              Bad_gr 23 July 2016 20: 19
              0
              Leclerc Tower. Filling.
              1. Navigator Basov
                Navigator Basov 27 July 2016 02: 20
                +1
                Quote: Bad_gr
                Leclerc Tower. Filling.
                The whole filling climbed out of the tower: one female filling looks at us like shit, while the other just flayed it on display.
      2. Tsoy
        Tsoy 22 July 2016 09: 22
        +3
        Quote: Leto
        Well hello. He needs the French in the first place. By this principle, you can spit in the direction of the Merkava, they say no one buys it.


        Well, the article predicts new contracts.

        T-90 is heavier than T-72, Armata is heavier than T-90, start sprinkling ashes on your head.


        Do not ash. And if you compare the weight of Russian tanks against foreign ones? T90 is easier on 10 tons of the same leklerk. I do not know how it affects the protection, but still. The engines do not change and remain within the 1500 hp, which is clearly not good for mobility and maneuverability.


        that is what is meant here. .


        Exactly hi


        Leclerc and leopards less than a thousand.


        At 2011, the year for France is 354, for the UAE - 388. Total produced by 876. Maybe where hundreds of pieces stored?
        1. Verdun
          Verdun 22 July 2016 09: 53
          +5
          Quote: Choi
          Do not ash. And if you compare the weight of Russian tanks against foreign ones? T90 is easier on 10 tons of the same leklerk. I do not know how it affects the protection, but still. The engines do not change and remain within the 1500 hp, which is clearly not good for mobility and maneuverability.

          The light weight of our tanks is not so much an achievement as a problem. The problem associated with the lack of a powerful tank engine. Until the engine created for Almaty appeared, the reliability of which has not yet been confirmed, the power of our diesel engines was limited to 1000 liters. with. This did not allow increasing the weight of the machines and, as a result, improving their protection. And the dynamics of the tank (and by no means maneuverability) is associated with its power-to-weight ratio. Divide 1500 liters. with. Leclerc on his weight and 1000 liters. with. on the weight of the T-90 and see what you get.
          1. Tsoy
            Tsoy 22 July 2016 10: 20
            +3
            Quote: Verdun
            Divide 1500 l. with. Leclerc on his weight and 1000 l. with. on weight T-90 and see what you get.


            Horsepower per ton? 21,5 vs. 27, if not missed.
            1. Verdun
              Verdun 22 July 2016 10: 31
              +3
              Everything is correct. The T-90 - 21,5 liters. with. per ton of weight, and Leclerc’s - 27. Even if after modernization the weight is 60 tons, it will be 25 liters. with. per ton. So who has a higher power ratio? Hopefully, with the advent of the new engine, which is installed on the T-14, the situation will improve. But there are doubts. The fact is that the new motor is built according to the X-shaped scheme. Not only does it have quite specific dimensions, but also the experience in creating engines according to this scheme indicates their high complexity and low reliability.
              1. Bad_gr
                Bad_gr 22 July 2016 21: 09
                0
                Quote: Verdun
                The fact is that the new motor is built according to the X-shaped scheme. Not only does it have quite specific dimensions, but also the experience in creating engines according to this scheme indicates their high complexity and low reliability.

                Request,
                Give a link to the source of this data.
          2. Bad_gr
            Bad_gr 22 July 2016 12: 22
            +3
            Quote: Verdun
            The light weight of our tanks is not so much an achievement as a problem.

            The lower weight of our tanks is associated with the smaller size of the tank itself, the reservation of which requires less armor. I don’t remember the thickness of the armor of the Leclerc side, but Abrams and Leopard have it in the region of 2cm, despite the fact that our lighter has 7-8cm. By the way, the forehead of the English Challenger calmly breaks through our RPG-7. Now they, however, added DZ boxes to their foreheads, but did not hear the thickness of the main armor, so that they would increase it.

            Add on leklerku
            With its light weight, its tracks are aluminum. And I have vague doubts that they are enough for a long time.
            Those who sometimes watch our tank biathlon will probably remember that the Chinese were tearing their steel tracks. And how will aluminum behave in a similar situation?

            Quote: Verdun
            Until the engine created for Almaty appeared, the reliability of which has not yet been confirmed, the power of our diesel engines was limited to 1000 liters. with.

            The ancestor of the engine, which now stands on Armata, appeared at the same time as the engine of the T-64 tank and they once competed. Just behind this engine there was no such lobby as for 5TDF.
            The same engine stood at facility 187, at Pitersky 219RD, at Chelyabinsk facility 785
            1. psiho117
              psiho117 22 July 2016 18: 08
              +2
              Quote: Bad_gr
              By the way, the forehead of the English Challenger calmly breaks through our RPG-7.

              Nonsense.
              A small section is made in on the lower slope of the hull, and the forehead of the hull and towers are fucking thick there.

              A bit lower than the room, there begins this section of relatively thin armor.
              You must admit that this is not the most obvious vulnerability, unless you stick out somewhere on the crest of a hill and shine from this place.
              1. Bad_gr
                Bad_gr 22 July 2016 19: 35
                +3
                Quote: psiho117
                Nonsense.
                A small section is made in on the lower slope of the hull, and the forehead of the hull and towers are fucking thick there.
                A bit lower than the room, there begins this section of relatively thin armor.

                I'm just talking about the place that you call "A little bit below the number", and which occupies a third of the frontal projection of the tank.

                Therefore, they stuck it all
                1. Bad_gr
                  Bad_gr 23 July 2016 17: 26
                  +1
                  Quote: Bad_gr
                  .... which occupies a third of the frontal projection of the tank.

            2. gallville
              gallville 23 July 2016 00: 50
              +2
              Quote: Bad_gr
              The smaller weight of our tanks is associated with the smaller size of the tank itself,

              A bit wrong. Although an obvious statement.
              The weight, as well as the dimensions of the tank, are associated with the tank space. Which is an order of magnitude more in Western countries. This is especially due to the presence of a loader, which, for example, works abrams while standing. Another thing is a leclerc, as having a tank with an AZ, they managed to make it 60 tons.? Yes, and for 3 people, although the Germans managed to make Leopold 4 bodies in the same mass.
              Most likely the tank (leclerc) paid too much attention to the work of the crew as the French like it, and it also affected:
              The automatic loader is located in the rear of the tower in an isolated compartment, equipped with baffle panels and is a conveyor belt that provides the gun with a technical rate of fire up to 15 and a practical one - up to 10-12 rounds per minute [9].

              https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9B%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%BB%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BA_(%D1%82
              % D0% B0% D0% BD% D0% BA)
              1. Bad_gr
                Bad_gr 23 July 2016 12: 05
                +1
                Quote: gallville
                The weight, as well as the dimensions of the tank, are associated with the tank space. Which is an order of magnitude more in Western countries.

                Most of which is occupied by the engine compartment

                Quote: gallville
                This is especially due to the presence of a loader, which, for example, works abrams while standing.

                More precisely, sitting. By the way, Abrams (and Leo) has a height of 165 cm from the floor to the ceiling of the tower - it’s not very worth it (especially in motion).
          3. ibirus
            ibirus 22 July 2016 22: 35
            +2
            And everyone forgot about the specific pressure on the ground. How do you think a tank with a mass of more than 60 tons should go into battle if it had rained before, or the soil is wet?
            1. seos
              seos 26 December 2016 23: 19
              0
              Morozov argued that the smaller the tank, the more efficient it was. The Soviet school of tank building was built on this. And she was right. The T14 has such dimensions due to the fact that they wanted to put the T15 BMP and the Coalition on this platform - for them they needed an elongated and more stable chassis, for the tank it was not necessary in principle, but the unification of a single platform worked.
              By the way, the T-14 is huge in size with a weight of 48 tons. Which clearly negatively affects the passive protection - this can be a problem.
          4. gallville
            gallville 23 July 2016 00: 40
            +1
            Quote: Verdun
            The problem associated with the lack of a powerful tank engine.

            Remind me what prevented you from setting a 1,25 strong GTE? And produced in the Russian Federation, and developed in St. Petersburg.
          5. barbiturate
            barbiturate 24 July 2016 13: 17
            +1
            Fairy tale)) The low weight of our tanks is laid in the concept and layout of the machine (reserved space). Nothing prevents making cars 60+ tons in weight with a diesel engine of 900-1000 hp and they move quite normally. Example: Chieftain, Merkava.
      3. Tsoy
        Tsoy 22 July 2016 09: 22
        +2
        Leclerc and leopards less than a thousand.



        Leopard. More 3000 released. But the year of release from him much earlier. 1979 vs. 1990.

        Denmark 2 March 1979 of the year ordered 445 tanks Leopard 2. Switzerland acquired 35 tanks 24 August 1983 of the year, and in December 1987 additionally began production under license of 345 tanks. But it was before, now they are smaller in the ranks. Today in service are:

        Austria - 40 "Leopard 2A4", as of 2016 year
        Germany - 306 "Leopard 2A6 / A7", 56 "Leopard ARV" and 41 ARV 3 Buffel, as of 2016 year
        Greece - 170 "Leopard 2A6HEL", 183 "Leopard 2A4" and 12 Buffel, as of 2016 year. 183 Leopard-2А4 delivered to 2005 — 2007 from the Armed Forces of Germany, licensed assembly contract Leopard 2A6HEL
        Denmark - 55 "Leopard 2A4 / 5", as of 2016 year.
        Indonesia - 96 Leopard 2 SG, as of 2016 year. In 2012, the contract was signed for the supply of 61 Leopard Revolution and 42 Leopard A4, the first deliveries are due to start in 2014.
        Spain - 108 "Leopard 2A4", 223 "Leopard 2A5E" and 16 "Leopard REC", as of 2016 year.
        Canada - 80 "Leopard 2A4", 40 "Leopard 2A6M" and 2 BPz-3 Buffel, as of 2016 year. Purchased from the Armed Forces of the Netherlands. At least one tank was lost during the war in Afghanistan.
        Qatar - 62 Leopard 2
        In 2013, the contract for the supply of 62 "Leopard 2A7" was concluded, deliveries were started in 2015.
        Netherlands - 12 Buffell, as of 2016 year. 8 May 2011 decommissioned all tanks Leopard-2. The Netherlands became the first Western European country to completely abandon heavy armored vehicles.
        Norway - 52 "Leopard 2A4", as of 2016 year.
        Poland - 142 "Leopard 2A4" and 91 "Leopard 2A5", as of 2016 year. In 2013, the contract for the supply of 105 "Leopard A5" and 14 "Leopard A4" was signed, deliveries were started in 2014 year.
        Portugal - 37 "Leopard 2A6", as of 2016 year.
        Singapore - 96 "Leopard 2SG" and some Buffel, as of 2016 year.
        Turkey - 325 "Leopard 2A4", as of 2010 year. Delivered Leopard 2A4 from the Armed Forces of Germany.
        Uganda - 20 Buffel, as of 2016 year.
        Finland - 100 "Leopard 2A4", 20 "Leopard 2A6", 6 "Leopard" 2R and 6 "Leopard" 2L, as of 2016 year. In 2014, the contract for the supply of 100 "Leopard 2A6" was concluded, deliveries were started in 2015.
        Sri Lanka - 31 Buffel, as of 2016 year.
        Chile - 131 "Leopard 2A4", as of 2016 year. 118 + 22 for parts Leopard 2A4 from the Armed Forces of Germany will be delivered before 2011.
        Switzerland - 134 Leopard 2 (Pz-87 Leo) and 25 Buffel, as of 2016 year.
        Sweden - 9 Leopard 2A4 (Strv-121) and 120 Leopard 2A5 (Strv 122), as of 2010 year.
        Saudi Arabia - Germany has agreed to supply Saudi Arabia 600 — 800 tanks “Leopard” 2A7 as of 2012.
    2. Mifcada
      Mifcada 22 July 2016 08: 54
      +1
      Quote: Choi
      After modernization it will become even more expensive, nobody needs it anyway. Only the 10 and K2 types are more expensive. And the weight is more and more with each series. Already close to 60 tons came up. His engine is by the way Finnish from Wärtsilä.



      Whether Armata’s business is very cheap and very angry ... And Leclerc sucks by definition, he’s not a product of Russian tank building, but Tsoi is a distinguished patriot. Cheers-cheers-cheers !!!
      1. alexej123
        alexej123 22 July 2016 09: 24
        +5
        Am I missing something, or is the Armata a completely new tank and not a modernized T-90? Tovarisch, and give the words where it says for a suck? Leclerc was the most expensive production car anyway. You don't need to get rid of Russian and honey, for some reason they dragged the "Armata".
        1. Sergej1972
          Sergej1972 22 July 2016 17: 04
          +1
          Your phrase is built in such a way that you might think that you consider Armata a modernization of the T-90, and not a completely new tank.))
      2. Tsoy
        Tsoy 22 July 2016 09: 25
        +6
        Quote: Mifkada
        Quote: Choi
        After modernization it will become even more expensive, nobody needs it anyway. Only the 10 and K2 types are more expensive. And the weight is more and more with each series. Already close to 60 tons came up. His engine is by the way Finnish from Wärtsilä.



        Whether Armata’s business is very cheap and very angry ... And Leclerc sucks by definition, he’s not a product of Russian tank building, but Tsoi is a distinguished patriot. Cheers-cheers-cheers !!!


        At least in one phrase, I called leklerk suck or compared it with Armata? Hurray patriots do not like, but do not like fools more. fool
      3. Verdun
        Verdun 22 July 2016 11: 36
        0
        Quote: Mifkada
        Either Armat’s business, very cheap and very angry ...

        An attempt on the honor of the "sacred cows" is punishable by the removal of the rating. what
      4. spech
        spech 22 July 2016 14: 00
        +8
        And Leclerc sucks, by definition,

        - how many tanks are needed to protect Paris?
        -KhZ have never tried to protect. repeat
  2. bionik
    bionik 22 July 2016 07: 54
    +4
    I came to this article: New details of the combat use of the Emirate Leclerc tanks in Yemen. bmpd.livejournal.com/2019781.html
  3. serega.fedotov
    serega.fedotov 22 July 2016 08: 57
    +1
    That’s interesting, like a tank, the trunk there is a caterpillar, everyone has the same thing, but the staz can be seen — someone else’s car, not ours.
    1. code54
      code54 22 July 2016 09: 35
      +1
      Well ... I personally can’t get used to the identity of Almaty yet! )))) Agree, the silhouette of our tanks was (is) very recognizable! ... starting from T-55 to T-90, at least you don’t hang on them!
  4. although
    although 22 July 2016 09: 30
    +4
    I can’t, unfortunately, find the article, but the essence was this ... the Leclerc is the best, accurate, comfortable and expensive tank .... it would be if there was no need to fight on it. winked
  5. K-50
    K-50 22 July 2016 10: 53
    +4
    The main problem of all modern modern tanks is external sights and surveillance equipment. Having received a high-explosive fragmentation projectile in the "face", the tank will be out of order, since all the "pribluds" will be destroyed and the "armored car" will remain blind, plus the possibility of hitting the gun barrel. So it will be possible to forget about the fulfillment of the assigned task, even if the "machine" is on the move and the crew is combat-ready. request
    1. Bad_gr
      Bad_gr 22 July 2016 11: 14
      +3
      Quote: K-50
      The main problem of all modern modern tanks is external sights and surveillance equipment. Having received a high-explosive fragmentation projectile in the "face", the tank will be out of order, since all the "pribluds" will be destroyed and the "armored car" will remain blind, plus the possibility of hitting the gun barrel. So it will be possible to forget about the fulfillment of the assigned task, even if the "machine" is on the move and the crew is combat-ready. request

      It is worth adding: "If the projectile is not shot down on approach by means of KAZ"
      1. Bad_gr
        Bad_gr 22 July 2016 14: 37
        +2
        Quote: Bad_gr
        It is worth adding: "If the projectile is not shot down on approach by means of KAZ"

        As usual, crap with minusers. What does not agree with? What does KAZ know? Since when does it exist?
        KAZ Afganit (mounted on the T-14, T-15, etc.) is positioned as a device that is able to shoot down a sub-caliber projectile, I’m silent about the HE with a speed that is half as low.
        1. TARSUS
          TARSUS 22 July 2016 22: 44
          +1
          KAZ Afghanit can position itself as you like. But until I see how he knocks down OBPS - all this is idle talk. But the fact that he can shoot down ATGM and RPG shots I have no doubt.
    2. Dimon19661
      Dimon19661 22 July 2016 11: 21
      0
      Have you played in HERE?
    3. alexej123
      alexej123 22 July 2016 11: 53
      +4
      Not necessarily high-explosive fragmentation. The tankmen said that all the devices fell from the line from the Shilka. Moreover, the tankers after the line inside the tank also had no ice.
      1. serega.fedotov
        serega.fedotov 22 July 2016 20: 06
        +3
        Quote: alexej123
        Not necessarily high-explosive fragmentation. The tankmen said that all the devices fell from the line from the Shilka. Moreover, the tankers after the line inside the tank also had no ice.

        Not only from Shilka, but also the BMP 2 line, the tank is out of order, nothing really serious, but it won’t fight without repair!
  6. pigkiller
    pigkiller 22 July 2016 10: 53
    +1
    Find out the cost of operation per year 1 unit. "Leclerc".
  7. Cat
    Cat 22 July 2016 11: 33
    +2
    I will add. I hope the French during the modernization will achieve reliable operation of the electronics, otherwise when conducting parades since 1995, the electronics of the Leclerc tanks were always turned off!
    1. dvaposto
      dvaposto 19 December 2016 06: 15
      0
      one of our officers recalled that at an exhibition in Abu Dhab, he demonstrated a BMP-3 to mine. He came to the line of fire from the hangar, shot well and went back. and the French reached the line of fire and for about 20-30 minutes they were busy. ours asked what was the matter. electronics calibration - answered. ours - and before, in the hangar, this could not be done? no-answer. - only in position. Electronics is very moody to temperature extremes.
      and why such a land mouse NEED? firing point in defense?
  8. AUL
    AUL 22 July 2016 12: 09
    +1
    "Lyulёk" is a great car. For peacetime.
  9. Lanista
    Lanista 22 July 2016 12: 57
    0
    It is absolutely clear why the French undertook to modernize Leclerc.
    Since the creation of Leclerc, he has never undergone any major modernization, which is especially negatively reflected primarily on the survivability indicator - this indicator was improved by all other tank builders. And we, both Americans and Germans, as part of our upgrades, increased our armor, and Leclerc's level of protection has not changed since the 1990's.
  10. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 22 July 2016 13: 34
    +1
    The French have always been at the forefront of scientific and technological progress, but with Leclerc a little too sophisticated. Although it is respectful that they were able to master such a machine on their own from electronics to the engine and weapons.
    1. Bad_gr
      Bad_gr 22 July 2016 14: 03
      +1
      Quote: Zaurbek
      Although it is respectful that they were able to master such a machine on their own from electronics to the engine and weapons.

      By the way, on the engine:
      the generator is only on the APU, it is not on the diesel engine. The main engine itself does not work without an APU, as the engine pressurization comes from the APU. And if they don’t lie in the article I read (from the Ukrainian site, from joint exercises), then the main engine’s power supply is diesel fuel, and the APU runs on kerosene. If this is the case, then a more hemorrhoidal power installation of the tank is not possible.
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      2. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 22 July 2016 14: 22
        +1
        You can’t even imagine it right away!
    2. askold
      askold 22 July 2016 14: 20
      0
      Yes, yes they have, their "I" in technology, however, not always practical ... a beep button, on the RENO Logan steering column switch, for example.