Sports Arbitration Court does not allow our athletes to the Olympics in Rio

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Under the conditions of total pressure on Russia, a miracle did not happen. The Sports Arbitration Court in Switzerland responded to the claims of the Russian Olympic Committee regarding the decision of WADA regarding Russian athletes. Recall that the World Anti-Doping Association announced that due to the fact that several athletes are caught in the use of doping, the entire Russian athletics team is suspended from the Olympics 2016.

Simultaneously with the Olympic Committee of the Russian Federation, a lawsuit (CAS) was filed by 68 of Russian athletes who were not convicted of doping. However, the court, clearly preaching medieval collective responsibility and ignoring the basis of modern law - the presumption of innocence - made the following decision: to reject the claim of the Russian athletes.

On the court site The following message appeared:

CAS did not satisfy the claim of the Russian Olympic Committee and 68 Russian athletes.


Sports Arbitration Court does not allow our athletes to the Olympics in Rio


A special press release states that "clean" Russian athletes could take part in the Olympic Games in Rio, if not "were in the Russian system, which created the conditions for the use of doping by athletes." In the same document, it is noted that Russian athletes who were not found to use prohibited drugs "could participate in the Olympics as neutral athletes."

The Russian Olympic Committee states that Russian athletes perform only under the Russian flag.
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  1. +12
    21 July 2016 12: 48
    and how will our answer to this order?
    1. +15
      21 July 2016 12: 49
      Quote: aszzz888
      and how will our answer to this order?


      The decision was predictable, but here is how this question will be answered.
      1. +74
        21 July 2016 12: 49
        Yes score on the IOC, WADA, CAS Court, and the like.

        For example, the NHL put a bolt from birth on all these organizations.
        And there is no strain on doping and other nonsense.
        And they relate to the Olympiad by the residual principle.

        Can cabbage soup be banned for athletes soon?
        They will say that it’s better for a Russian person than an Italian for pizza. wassat
        1. +16
          21 July 2016 13: 01
          Quote: Temples
          Yes score on the IOC, WADA, CAS Court, and the like.

          yes this is understandable, only the feeling like in 080808 only tanks through the tunnel this time will not go
          how the crap is full
          1. 0
            21 July 2016 13: 55
            It's too early at the IOC. We will live until Monday.
            1. +7
              21 July 2016 16: 19
              I'm afraid the IOC will decide on the removal of the entire Russian team from the Olympics. In this case, I think the west will pass the point of no return in relations with Russia, and a further chain of events will lead to a world war. As for the Olympic movement, it will cease to exist. The Chinese, and maybe not only the Chinese, will not go to the next Olympiad; there is a precedent for the creation of a pressure tool and will be used without hesitation. This will lead to the emancipation of the west from the whole world and with a high probability of war. After such a decision, Russia and the West will be unable to agree on anything substantial.
              1. +5
                21 July 2016 18: 06
                and how will our answer to this order?

                The whole confrontation began with the prohibition of state homosexuals to adopt our orphans. After the ban on cockerel propaganda among children, Western leaders boycotted the opening of the Olympics in Sochi. But is it not time to return the article to the criminal code? So to speak, our IOC response with signs of collective responsibility.
              2. -1
                21 July 2016 22: 58
                Quote: Canep
                I'm afraid the IOC will decide on the removal of the entire Russian team from the Olympics. In this case, I think the west will pass the point of no return in relations with Russia, and a further chain of events will lead to a world war.

                The collective responsibility was not recognized, therefore it is necessary to wet it not with rockets, but with millions of lawsuits. Pomnitsa Bosman (well, the same Bosman who sat down on the bench, as he was 4 legionnaire) won the usual arbitration and only then sports
              3. 0
                22 July 2016 12: 42
                Quote: Canep
                I'm afraid the IOC will decide on the removal of the entire Russian team from the Olympics. In this case, I think the west will pass the point of no return in relations with Russia, and a further chain of events will lead to a world war. As for the Olympic movement, it will cease to exist. The Chinese, and maybe not only the Chinese, will not go to the next Olympiad; there is a precedent for the creation of a pressure tool and will be used without hesitation. This will lead to the emancipation of the west from the whole world and with a high probability of war. After such a decision, Russia and the West will be unable to agree on anything substantial.

                We won’t be able to fight, but they need to pat their nerves, remember PACE, how they started wrapping them up at the airports, drooling and stalled .... I think ours will find a sophisticated way to get them wet ... It's time to give change .Near 2018, let's see how they decide with the fans and WADA functionaries.
          2. +3
            21 July 2016 16: 01
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            yes this is understandable, only the feeling like in 080808 only tanks through the tunnel this time will not go

            Yes, not a fact yet. a canopy in the Donbass can arrange a major provocation. with filing sash
            1. +12
              21 July 2016 18: 10
              Only now test tubes with urine and blood of athletes.

              No, our athletes were made clear that the reason was not in their test tubes, but in their Russian passports.
              1. 0
                22 July 2016 08: 46
                The problem is the increased success of sports in RUSSIA in recent years, so they removed one of the main competitors. Why do not Americans who take the same drug, mildonium, and then introducing a ban on mildonium, where the scientific justification of what relates to doping, and
                so this is an empty chatter.
        2. +22
          21 July 2016 13: 14
          NBA by the way, too .., and there such horses run ... obviously sitting on semolina laughing
          1. +2
            21 July 2016 16: 53
            Quote: RUS96
            NBA by the way, too .., and there such horses run ... obviously sitting on semolina

            and American football.
            1. +2
              21 July 2016 22: 01
              Quote: RUS96
              NBA by the way, too .., and there such horses run ... obviously sitting on semolina

              Quote: Lukich
              and American football.

              That's it. And for these athletes it is not at all painful that they play with their state, without going abroad. And the audience does not pull their hair, that the main players do not play at the World Cup, European Championship, and even the Olympic teams are not included. Their domestic championships are more prestigious and more spectacular than international ones. This is what we should strive for. And we have a silver medalist in jumping, hearing that he will not go to Rio, asks the question - what to strive for? That is, we, the citizens of Russia, as spectators and fans, they are not high. Meanwhile, the bulk of these "disturbed" athletes either bought American drugs from Rodchenkov, or most likely knew that someone was buying and where they were buying. The coaching staffs certainly knew who they could buy all the chemistry from. But they didn't stop it. And the FSB has clearly "failed" here. Maybe, of course, they do not consider elite sport to be the state affair that they should "look after". But figures as large as the head of the national anti-doping agency are subject to special control. And it turned out to be a real saboteur. I put the whole sport on American chemistry and the right moment disappeared. CIA - you 5 points !!! FSB - you count with a minus. But when our biathletes began to be "pressed" in packs, it was already necessary to react. If you sit down at the table with a sharpie and play by his rules, who wins? ... That's right, sharper. Ignoring the Olympic movement is, of course, silly. But the alternative must be developed in "our own team". We have a huge country, a large population, we are able to make domestic championships no less prestigious than international competitions. And of course, we need to develop and motivate children's sports. There should be coaches with a physical education teacher in schools. And each school is required to have teams for the most common sports. There is no need to pay the winners to the children, but it is possible, for example, to develop domestic tourism by playing tickets to school and interschool competitions. In this case, we will raise the health of the nation and make healthy people popular. And professional athletes end their careers, often with disabilities and resentment that he, the poor, was forgotten.
        3. +17
          21 July 2016 13: 41
          Quote: Temples
          Yes score on the IOC, WADA, CAS Court, and the like.

          For example, the NHL put a bolt from birth on all these organizations.

          No need to compare these things. The NHL is a self-sufficient narrow-profile organization with commercial financing, it does not depend on the state in any way. In the Olympics and various world championships never seen.

          Well, what did we score? to hold their Olympics?

          All this eerily resembles the situation when Colin Powell shook a test tube in the UN Security Council, claiming that it was chemical weapons, and then the country was destroyed and tens of thousands of residents were put under this business.

          Only now test tubes with urine and blood of athletes.
          1. +17
            21 July 2016 15: 36
            The Olympics is just a business project.

            It is no different from the NHL, NBA, Formula 1 and the like.

            Over the past hundred years, such projects were born in large numbers.

            You should not pray for this project.
            There is nothing eternal.

            And this does not mean that there should be alternative games.

            Competitions are necessary for raising spirit.
            Organize competitions on your territory so that the athletes would be interested in participating, and the audience would be interested to watch.
            This is exactly what the state hockey and basketball leagues did.

            In this case, you need to take an example.

            And in these leagues there is no ban for athletes from other countries.
            Even at the moment.

            The Olympics is now a bunch of snickering functionaries who have become insanely important.
            Which they have demonstrated.

            FIFA is not far gone.
            1. +2
              21 July 2016 16: 58
              Quote: Temples
              Organize competitions on your territory so that the athletes would be interested in participating, and the audience would be interested to watch.

              and the rest of the federations will be banned from participating on pain of disqualification. and the same championship of Russia will remain
          2. +6
            21 July 2016 16: 11
            Quote: Sharapov
            Only now test tubes with urine and blood of athletes.

            They even stopped shaking with test tubes for a long time, it would be enough for the whole world to take their word for it, for example, they would destroy Libya honestly, that the rights of peaceful demonstrators were violated there without a single video proof ..
            In this situation, I don’t even know how to answer, if there would be a social camp, it would be possible to organize games of goodwill, and so no one would come even Belarusians with Kazakhs .. Thought this Thomas Bach is adequate, all the same he was a former athlete, and here it turned out that in November all of ours were suspended, because a couple of people got caught in milildonia .. And Brazil did not give a visa to our Minister of Sports, this immediately indicates a strong hostility of this country ..
          3. +1
            21 July 2016 16: 24
            Quote: Sharapov
            NHL - self-sufficient narrow-profile organization with commercial financing

            The International Olympic Committee is exactly the same, a narrow-profile organization with commercial financing (by 53%).
          4. +2
            22 July 2016 00: 20
            Quote: Sharapov
            The NHL is a self-sufficient narrow-profile organization with commercial financing, it does not depend on the state in any way. In the Olympics and various world championships never seen.


            are NHL players on the US hockey team? So what else is participating in world championships.
            The whole point is not in doping, but in the still existing unipolar world in which the USA in the West is the full master.

            HOW TO RESPOND RUSSIA AND ATHLETES?

            Strengthen the country's defense and athletes do not succumb to provocations such as "you can play but not under the Russian flag."
        4. +14
          21 July 2016 13: 48
          Quote: Temples
          Yes score on the IOC, WADA, CAS Court, and the like.

          For example, remember the Goodwill Games ... And then, someday, after decades, the names of those who destroyed the Olympic system will be written in textbooks. And for what. Hopefully.

          I know one thing - Pierre de Coubertin tosses nervously in his grave and tries to crawl out to remind the US and the cellars why the Olympic Movement of modernity was invented ....
        5. 0
          21 July 2016 13: 53
          In this case (Olympics), the last resort is not the court in Lausanne, but the IOC!
          WAITING WITH
          1. +8
            21 July 2016 14: 17
            And I'm not nervous. We will be at the Olympic Games! The West wanted to humiliate us and he almost achieved it, but ... our president has not yet said his word. I am sure: in his environment (without any wisdom and company) painstaking work is underway and the result of this work I hope we will see soon. (Oh, and the minuses will fly now ...)
            1. +4
              21 July 2016 14: 26
              Quote: СРЦ П-15
              I am sure that in his environment (without any wisdom and company) painstaking work is underway and I hope we will see the result of this work soon.

              with your lips yes honey would drink
              only it seems to me that this fight is not ours
              1. 0
                21 July 2016 14: 49
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                only it seems to me that this fight is not ours

                Wait and see. Moreover, nothing remained to wait. hi
              2. +4
                21 July 2016 16: 19
                Lost battle is not a lost war! And in this case, this is a war against Russia! Hope has not died yet !!
                1. +5
                  21 July 2016 16: 55
                  purely theoretically, there’s still a chance to reduce this fight to even a draw, and on the condition of what they wanted to achieve, it might win
                  we need to urgently prepare for the athletics and athletics Games, adjust the one-to-one schedule for the Olympic, broadcast on all the central channels as well as on RT, give a parallel link to the results with the Olympic Games, we will all be rooting for our own people and where they will run, jump or throw me nevermind.
                  1. -3
                    21 July 2016 17: 03
                    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                    it is urgent to prepare the sports and athletics Games, adjust the one-on-one schedule to the Olympic one, start broadcasting on all central channels as well as on RT, give a parallel link to the results with the Olympic Games,

                    Yeah... laughing but I, for example, will also look at the OI anyway in an Internet entry. and I'm not alone. and what's the point now to arrange this booth? and you can’t organize a sports day in a couple of weeks
                    1. 0
                      21 July 2016 17: 07
                      it will not be a booth, first imagine the feeling of an athlete who is given gold but he knows that he came second or third, secondly the goal was to lower the GDP in the eyes of those who supported him 80%, but in any case I think that such a calculation was, and here it will be the result is diametrically opposite
                      1. +1
                        21 July 2016 19: 42
                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        it will not be a booth, first imagine the feeling of an athlete who is given gold but he knows that he came second or third,

                        and for this to arrange the championship of Russia?
                        Yes, they wanted to spit on us. they had to humiliate GDP and Russia as a country.
                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        and here the result will be diametrically opposite

                        which is the opposite? who respected the President respects him. he who watered the mud watered. nothing changed
                      2. 0
                        21 July 2016 21: 00
                        Quote: Lukich
                        Yes, they wanted to spit on us. they had to humiliate GDP and Russia as a country.

                        the fact of the matter is that they need to humiliate the country in our eyes, and what humiliation it will be if our athletes are winners for us, it will be the humiliation of those who climb the pedestal in Rio with less results
                      3. 0
                        21 July 2016 21: 26
                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        the fact of the matter is that they need to humiliate the country in our eyes,

                        not in ours. all over the world. show who is the boss in the house and what we are. we cannot win without doping
                      4. 0
                        22 July 2016 06: 49
                        Yes, it’s in ours, in the eyes of the rest of the world, that we are wild, uncouth barbarians, for the sake of interest, read Western media and comments on them
                      5. 0
                        22 July 2016 04: 19
                        In general, in theory, it's not bad. When we had nowhere to do with high-level athletes. For example, the Olympic champion in hammer throw Litvinov (I hope I didn't confuse with Yuri Sedykh) was asked about the results of the Sydney (I think) Olympics. What could he count on in your time? -champion Oi (for 12-20 years before 2000). He answered-10 in the USSR championship. This is about the Olympic champion !!! Even the Spartakiad of the peoples of the USSR was sometimes open. That is, foreigners participated there. And not just like that. For the prestige of the type. To increase competition. And now who in Russia can compete with Shubenkov or Isinbayeva. For a high result, a competitive atmosphere is needed. There will be no intrigue. In boxing, yes. In wrestling, undoubtedly. And in rhythmic gymnastics. But points - and seconds cannot be compared with centimeters. Weightlifting, maybe. Shooting is the PRC. And then in the same spirit. Karelin said that it is more difficult to win the USSR championship than the world championship. But now the USSR is not. He once described the Russian national team (Greco- Romans) is evennot echoes of that invincible national team of the Union. Although it is the best in all the last OIs since 2000. In short, there will be nothing interesting in our "alternative Olympics". Here a friend wrote about the Crimean Olympics, that's a great idea. At least there will be spectators.
            2. +2
              21 July 2016 15: 14
              Quote: СРЦ П-15
              ) There is painstaking work and the result of this work I hope we will see soon.

              Such things will not remain unanswered! But what will be the answer - well, just interesting.
              1. +2
                21 July 2016 16: 05
                Quote: Tol100v
                Quote: СРЦ П-15
                ) There is painstaking work and the result of this work I hope we will see soon.

                Such things will not remain unanswered! But what will be the answer - well, just interesting.

                There can only be one answer. All this de mo should float out. The truth must be presented and proven. And how to do it ..... a question to the state
              2. 0
                21 July 2016 17: 04
                Quote: Tol100v
                But what will be the answer - well, just interesting.

                wait and see smile
                1. -1
                  21 July 2016 17: 07
                  it's r in your mouth pull
              3. 0
                21 July 2016 22: 43
                I propose the Olympic list - those involved in these actions (bans) should be allowed into Russia only as tourists, sports and legal topics with these Judas are prohibited, up to and including expulsion from the country.
        6. +3
          21 July 2016 14: 17
          Quote: Temples
          Yes score on the IOC, WADA, CAS Court, and the like.

          ... now it’s KILLING - with courts, lawsuits, protests ... up to their bankruptcy.

          Naturally, all the officials involved - do not entry, or better yet - Arrest right at the airport, you can even in neutral countries ... and keep to each athlete, fan and so on to cover the material and moral damages ...
          1. +1
            21 July 2016 17: 10
            Quote: Rus2012
            arrest right at the airport, you can even in neutral countries ..

            and who will arrest? send special forces there? but you can at least think a little ....?
        7. 0
          21 July 2016 22: 48
          Quote: Temples
          For example, the NHL put a bolt from birth on all these organizations.

          This is not an indicator. Players of the NHL and NBA at the Olympics are allowed relatively recently. It's like a street fight WADA inspectors from fighters doping test came to take
      2. +15
        21 July 2016 12: 52
        Quote: cniza
        The decision was predictable

        I’m not upset, I don’t give a damn. Regarding predictability, the time has come, politics rules the sport.
        1. +15
          21 July 2016 13: 16
          To account don't give a damn I would beware of making such statements. IOC has nothing to do with it either. But the US commercial project called WADA should have been covered up for a long time. Well, if anyone is punished very harshly, it’s only Germany. Recently, their arrogance surpasses the Americans.
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          2. 0
            21 July 2016 14: 22
            Quote: RESEARCHER
            But the US commercial project called WADA should be covered for a long time
            I wonder who will cover the successful commercial project, carrying out the creeping raider seizure of the IOC and brazenly violating the Olympic principles? It seems that you can cover it only with radical methods, until bloody diarrhea is released .. ahem .. spanking all, without exception, WADA employees. And burn down the Montreal headquarters of this muddy office.
            Well, let Mutko deal with this issue, since he is such an indispensable Minister of Sports. At least some benefit from Lyavontievich will be.
          3. 0
            21 July 2016 17: 11
            Quote: RESEARCHER
            Recently, their arrogance surpasses the Americans.

            and frog lovers are not far behind
      3. +29
        21 July 2016 13: 01
        It is necessary to get out of this association in light athletics whose chairman is under investigation for bribes, and this wad should be recognized by the department of provocations and bullshit of the Pentagon and the State Department, and not related to sports. And the tight formation of all our athletes in human rights courts with millions of lawsuits for lawlessness in this area. The bourgeoisie understand only when they take away a little money, and morality is nothing for them! am
        1. 0
          21 July 2016 14: 04
          What other human rights court? Who are the judges?
      4. +7
        21 July 2016 13: 15
        You should always look for something positive) Zika virus is not infected.
        1. +3
          21 July 2016 15: 03
          Quote: Kars
          You should always look for something positive) Zika virus is not infected.

          And how many thieves "athletes" - such as accompanying persons, bite their elbows, the freebie flew by.
      5. +8
        21 July 2016 13: 30
        Quote: cniza
        The decision was predictable, but here is how this question will be answered.

        We couldn’t win the economic war, an ordinary war with us is too tough, so at least they will win back on the athletes. You can’t clean the face of a neighbor, so at least puncture a wheel .....
        1. +1
          21 July 2016 14: 09
          Quote: volot-voin
          so even pierce the wheel .....

          it looks more like a bunch under the door
      6. +2
        21 July 2016 14: 25
        Quote: cniza
        this is how this question will be answered.

        Quote: Temples
        Yes score on the IOC, WADA, CAS Court, and the like.

        That's right!
        Due to the fact that the above organizations are under direct or indirect control of the United States, we need to create an alternative in the form of holding all-Russian open sports and athletics events with a solid prize pool, the winners of which would be equated, according to material and moral incentives inside Russia, to Olympic champions. Moreover, now OI have turned into a politicized commercial representation.
        A doping control for these competitions to conduct, for fidelity and transparency, dual - and in the Russian Federation, and, for example, in Britain.
        1. +2
          21 July 2016 15: 32
          That's where, but not in England.
      7. +3
        21 July 2016 15: 48
        The decision was predictable, but here is how this question will be answered.

        yes, they will not answer .... now they will begin to process us, that this is all the intrigues of the "villains" and Russia will not just leave it, etc. ....
        all these movements of sports functionals prove that they are good for nothing, just like the economic bloc of the government and that Russia has no leverage on the international scene ....
        "blah blah" is the only thing they can do ....
      8. +2
        21 July 2016 17: 15
        Quote: cniza
        The decision was predictable, but here is how this question will be answered.

        and the first bell rang at Eurovision. there they showed us which judges are now running the ball. and they wanted to spit on the opinion of the audience. although according to all the canons for the audience, all this bodyagie was arranged
      9. 0
        22 July 2016 12: 35
        Laughs the one who laughs the last (last). It is said as a warning to one (often a participant in a dispute, conflict) who ridicules, criticizes another, risking subsequently being wrong.
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    4. +9
      21 July 2016 12: 53
      the answer must be very tough to discourage such setups.
      1. +35
        21 July 2016 13: 03
        What is another tough answer?

        The Olympics have long been a show business.

        It’s just the time to get rid of the illusions.

        Oh sport, you are the world! - drove through ...

        Oh sport, you're a bunch of dough - a real Olympic slogan.

        And around this pile of flies - IOC, WADA, Court of CAS ....
        1. +7
          21 July 2016 13: 11
          Quote: Temples
          Oh sport, you're a bunch of dough - a real Olympic slogan.

          Many sports, due to their popularity, have become not only show business, but also a money laundering tool. It’s just that our foreign intelligence services should pay attention to all these committees and pull out for everyone to see evidence of what is happening there, so that the whole world sees this rotten. For sports, real sports, this will be extremely useful.
          1. +5
            21 July 2016 13: 15
            so that the whole world sees this rotten.


            Yes, that you really are.

            This is not our project.
            We decided to participate in this "rotten stuff", so there is nothing to squeak that you do not like the rules.
            No one is pulling on a rope.

            We need to arrange the games ourselves.
            Below, a person recalled the "Goodwill Games".

            Or, as the GDP says, you need to answer asymmetrically)))
            1. +15
              21 July 2016 13: 36
              Quote: Temples
              ... We need to arrange the games ourselves ...

              The Children of Asia Games 2016 ended in Yakutsk. This year they brought together a record number of participating countries - 35 countries, 3 federal districts of Russia, two regions and the city of Moscow. The team of the Siberian Federal District became the champions in the team competition. On the second place is the Team of Yakutia, and "bronze" is the team of Kazakhstan.
              The next Games will be held in 4 years in Mongolia in Ulan Bator. The Children of Asia will return to Yakutsk in 8 years.
      2. +7
        21 July 2016 13: 16
        Quote: Dvm70
        the answer must be very tough to discourage such setups.

        In the international criminal court against all these organizations, with multimillion claims for perjury. And the company of the manufacturer of sample containers for doping. There are many guilty.
      3. -7
        21 July 2016 14: 40
        Quote: Dvm70
        the answer must be very tough to discourage such setups.


        "Of course, I can unequivocally express regret in connection with such a decision of the Court of Arbitration for Sport, which concerns absolutely all our athletes, our athletes, because the topic of collective responsibility, from our point of view, can hardly be acceptable," Peskov said. Interfax.

        The whole point of the tough answer from amorphous worms wassat
    5. +14
      21 July 2016 12: 57
      Quote: aszzz888
      and how will our answer to this order?
      1. +4
        21 July 2016 13: 12
        That was the right decision.
        I demand to repeat and legitimize.
        1. 0
          21 July 2016 19: 51
          Quote: Temples
          That was the right decision.
          I demand to repeat and legitimize.

          and who will come to them? no social camp, and it was designed for them. and now they will forbid to go and that’s it, there will be another championship of Russia
      2. +5
        21 July 2016 13: 17
        Will only Russian athletes come to Goodwill Games? There is no CMEA .. They will not come from the GDR, they will not come from Bulgaria, Poland, Czechoslovakia, I will say more from China they will not come, they will not come from Iran, Latinos, Afrikos ...

        Who should I call for Goodwill Games? Australians, Canadians, USA, British, French, Germans, Spaniards, Belgians? Goodwill Games will become the championship of Russia.

    6. +2
      21 July 2016 12: 58
      Another organization that proved to be purchased and politicized. Candidate for disbandment.
    7. +5
      21 July 2016 13: 00
      Quote: aszzz888
      and how will our answer to this order?

      ---------------------
      In a civil court, this custom-made nonsense is easily refuted, but this is a time that is not there. The Olympics will pass by, and then an acquittal will be useless.
    8. +3
      21 July 2016 13: 10
      now they will stir up water under the World Cup 2018 on football
      1. +1
        21 July 2016 13: 58
        They've been troubled for a long time.
      2. 0
        21 July 2016 19: 56
        Quote: vkl.47
        now they will stir up water under the World Cup 2018 on football

        have long been muddied. the first step has been taken, the president of FIFA who sympathized with us, was thrown off
    9. -13
      21 July 2016 13: 10
      I think that our athletes are obliged to go to the Olympics, no matter what flag they will appear under, because we fans will support them anyway! And we will look at the athletes themselves, and not at the suit with the inscription, we will look at both as individuals, as heroes, who, I am sure, will tear and throw away for this mess that we have been perpetrated. And you imagine what the resonance would be if Olympic team wins the medal standings. In the morning, nuggle-saxam !!! Go Russia!
      1. +16
        21 July 2016 13: 29
        Quote: Dimontius
        I think that our athletes are obliged to go to the Olympics no matter under what flag they will stand

        Yeah! And D. Klishina under the Russian?
        Yesterday I wrote on this topic about "dreams":
        1. Hold your Olympics in Russia. Though for 68 athletes. Reward, given the results in Rio. And it doesn’t matter that they will not recognize the results;
        2. Beat on finances. Stop paying dues;
        3. Beat on finances. To bring claims filed to completion, and not to sports courts;
        4. Raise the topic of doping in other countries, primarily in the United States as the instigator;
        5. Quit all these committees;
        6. Lawyers to work on "lost opportunities";
        7. Dismiss Mutko and his officials as "not justifying trust."
        1. +7
          21 July 2016 13: 38
          Quote: Dimontius
          I think that our athletes are obliged to go to the Olympics, no matter what flag they will appear under, because we fans will support them anyway!

          on the contrary, I believe that everyone else MUST refuse to participate
          1. 0
            21 July 2016 14: 00
            All of them are adults, everyone will decide for himself.
          2. -4
            21 July 2016 14: 04
            Quote: Zulu_S
            everyone else MUST refuse to participate

            Why then not to pass the last Olympic medals? How many do you have? OLYMPIC?
        2. 0
          21 July 2016 13: 52
          Regarding your fourth point. To whom and how do you intend to raise the topic?
          1. 0
            21 July 2016 23: 28
            in front of wife and mother-in-law
          2. 0
            22 July 2016 07: 39
            Quote: mikh-korsakov
            Regarding your fourth point. To whom and how do you intend to raise the topic?

            Quote: shvn
            in front of wife and mother-in-law

            At least with the help of the press. Theirs. There are many options. Only concrete facts are needed. And for meldonium, and for other drugs. But this is only possible with the help of scientists and special services. But a citizen of Putin has his own vision of the prestige of the country and its interests, of its national team. Yes, and much is hidden for us, ordinary citizens. So that's why I wrote "dreams".
            Well, what I'm discussing with my wife and mother-in-law is my own business.
        3. -4
          21 July 2016 14: 01
          Can't everyone order tickets to Pyongyang for exchange of experience? It's time for you to remember in the rank of General of the Army what our president thinks about isolation. How many of you are here such patriotic loudly shouting: "No need to go! Boycott!" At least you yourself will watch the Olympic Games or just talk about them on VO? Personally, I watch sports in many disciplines, and as a fan, I need my own athletes to worry about them. Not to mention the athletes themselves, for whom these are goals in life. Even if the whole world does not see tricolor suits, they will still remain our Russian guys for me. And our media in any case will present their achievements as Russian, even without the anthem at the end!
        4. +2
          21 July 2016 14: 08
          The committee stay, pay the money. Until then, we will not create parallel structures. Create your own intelligence on doping. And the whole world is wool. And look for someone you can catch. Make it a state policy. And hard. This is the correct answer.
      2. +1
        21 July 2016 13: 49
        It would be cool. BUT. What do you think, that our athletes will be allowed to win in something there, even if they appear under the white flag. Moreover, they may be subject to provocations there. So we won’t be able to wipe anyone’s nose there. The other is annoying. Why does our country in the person of Peskov pity that the decision of the court is as if strange. The court relied on McLaren’s deceitful report. that our state was involved in the doping, and not Rodchenkov, who exported doping from America with suitcases and then sold it to athletes. We must stop mumble.
        1. 0
          21 July 2016 20: 07
          Quote: mikh-korsakov
          What do you think, that our athletes will be allowed to win in something there, even if they appear under the white flag.

          will be allowed. they will be worn on their hands. but in the media they will be like "heroes who escaped from the bloody Putin regime"
      3. 0
        21 July 2016 13: 58
        Quote: Dimontius
        I think that our athletes are obliged to go to the Olympics, no matter what flag they will appear under, because we fans will support


        Well, so far only one Klishina has permission to participate. Vague forebodings torment that no more than a dozen of our athletes will be allowed, and only if they train abroad.
      4. +3
        21 July 2016 15: 42
        We could not wipe our nose even if the athletes went. Fighting for 3rd place. I have been waiting for this Olympics for 4 years. Every year in all Olympic sports I compared the results of the first 10 countries. And when we first began to "kill" the walkers , then weightlifters, Sharapov, Efimov, athletics in general, I realized that this is not the end. No, no one will go along with us to a boycott. We have no authority. Neither Cuba, let alone China, he is generally fighting with the United States for 1 Russia is not interested in the place and its problems. Unless it is secret with them not to confer with them about the sale of such weapons that they have long dreamed of. A couple of nuclear submarines comparable to the United States, strategic aviation Tu-22m3, and in general any. Then they can agree to an ultimatum to the IOC to put forward Their athletes will definitely "understand" everything. This is from the realm of fantasy. And if we seriously admit the DPR, LPR, for every Ukrainian shelling of peaceful villages, respond immediately with a pinpoint strike. In Syria, Assad, ask all non-Russian military and, first of all, the Air Force to get out of the country (airspace), etc. To play down to shoot down. Why are there our S-400s. If they are already a peaceful village equal to the ground. And to shoot down. Of course, go out to stop paying contributions to different federations. We have nowhere to spend more money. Mutko, Zhukova, etc. In general, a big fan of the Olympic Games. And there are no words. For me, the autographs of several Olympic medalists are more important than photos with, for example, McClee Jackson or Vladimir Putin. And here it is ... Although I am young. But I can not until the next Olympics My health is not good. To some extent I understand our athletes.
      5. +2
        21 July 2016 20: 02
        Quote: Dimontius
        And we will look at the athletes themselves, and not at the suit with the inscription, we will look

        but it will be very pleasant to watch when not the anthem of Russia will sound in honor of the victory. and in all pro-Western newspapers they will write about them not as athletes of Russia, and it is not clear whose flag will be raised? and in their media they will write not as about the athletes of Russia, but about the "heroes who escaped from the bloody gebny" and who will be better?
    10. +3
      21 July 2016 13: 48
      No way. We can only shake our fingers with nothing. If only they drop a nuclear bomb?
      1. -1
        21 July 2016 13: 53
        Mundial in Moscow can be canceled at the very last moment
        1. +7
          21 July 2016 14: 31
          If I were an athlete, after so many buckets of slop poured onto My country and colleagues, I myself would not have gone to this old olympiad, and indeed, where there is a healthy patriotism and elementary pride for myself, for my Homeland, why humiliate myself and what to prove something, the entire team to refuse to go there in solidarity with athletes, will not leave anyone if they do not go, is it still measured in money ?! !!
          1. 0
            21 July 2016 23: 34
            for many of them, money is the main thing ...
    11. +3
      21 July 2016 14: 36
      Quote: aszzz888
      and how will our answer to this order?



      They will cleanse the face from spitting and increase contributions to the IOC (Schaub puzzled further to come up with) ...
    12. +10
      21 July 2016 18: 42
      Quote: aszzz888
      and how will our answer to this order?

      As early as May 28, prankers Vovan and Lexus phoned WADA World Anti-Doping Agency director Sir Craig Reedy and American Anti-Doping Agency head Travis Taigart, who initiated the investigation into Russia. The NTV channel then decided to postpone the broadcast due to the reluctance of our editorial staff at that time to directly or indirectly influence the decision of sports international officials. However, now before the fateful decision for Russia on July 24, by which the IOC can deprive the entire Russian team of a trip to Rio, all the secret behind the scenes dirty political struggle will become apparent. Viewers will hear WADA President Craig Reedy say that they had no other evidence than Rodchenkov’s interview in The New York Times. And the Head of the American Anti-Doping Agency, Travis Tigart, told pranker Vovan, “Minister of Sports of Ukraine Igor Zhdanov,” that Russia needs to be removed from all competitions and that “this is politics, my friend.”
      These and other details of the doping scandal will be revealed in the “Call” show on July 22 at 22:30 on NTV http://www.ntv.ru/novosti/1644520/
    13. 0
      22 July 2016 00: 28
      This is war. The information war has already been lost, and the budget of the Russian Federation suffered colossal damage. "Ours" will not answer with anything, since the conclusions of WADA are the result of betrayal at the top of some and the lack of professionalism of others. I think that after the Olympiad, the information operation on MH-17 will be completed in the same way. We'll have to live with it. Or is there a "cunning plan"?
    14. 0
      22 July 2016 05: 28
      84-o remember? USSR boycotted the Olympic Games in Los Angeles. Declaring it as a boycott.
      So they will answer.
      Moreover, today it is clearer.
  2. +17
    21 July 2016 12: 48
    Scum ... !!! So much for you - "SPORT OUT OF POLITICS" ... !!!
    The Rio Olympic Games are turning into Pan-American and EU.
    Of the emotions, only hatred of the corrupt Sports Court of Arbitration remained!
    The Olympic motto - "Oh sport - you are the world" sounds like a mockery!
    Honest sport, out of politics - dead ... !!!
    1. +4
      21 July 2016 12: 56
      Here it is the face of Western committees, organizations, courts ...
      Received the order and do not care about everything.
      Do not dig another hole, how many times have they been told.
      And now a precedent, a two-edged sword.
      1. 0
        21 July 2016 18: 44
        Quote: hirurg
        Here it is the face of Western committees, organizations, courts ...

        All this is painfully familiar.
        Similarly, 70 years ago, the Nazis for the connection of one of the residents with the partisans burned entire villages.
        This decision of the sports court of arbitration in Switzerland testifies that the modern European elite consists entirely of latent Nazis.
        The gut of western civilization does not change.
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    2. +6
      21 July 2016 12: 59
      VO, moreover, the purest policy without admixture of sports. Or this phrase:
      A special press release states that “pure” Russian athletes could have taken part in the Rio Olympics if they hadn’t “been in the Russian system
      Aaaa-fig, think about the Russian athletes outside the Russian system, and where our pancake should be located on the lunar system, the stump is clear that they will prepare at home, train.
      1. +1
        21 July 2016 13: 03
        Quote: 2224460
        Aahhh, think about it, Russian athletes outside the Russian system,

        --------------------
        In the American sports system, doping is sold freely. In the United States, it’s not a problem to buy drugs and doping, any pharmacology. The court is clearly biased.
        1. +9
          21 July 2016 13: 09
          Quote: Altona
          In the American sports system, doping is sold freely.

          Looking at Lyudmila, in Ukraine, they also eat dope by banks. You will meet horseradish on the street and convince anyone that this is a woman.
          1. +6
            21 July 2016 14: 12
            Tin. The second photo resembles an old pumped Zelensky.
    3. 0
      21 July 2016 20: 13
      Quote: sever.56
      So much for you - "SPORT OUT OF POLITICS"

      remember 1980 Moscow, OI
  3. +4
    21 July 2016 12: 49
    And tomorrow they’ll take away football, there are many offended there.
    1. +2
      21 July 2016 13: 02
      Quote: Teberii
      And tomorrow they’ll take away football

      tomorrow they will remove the whole team
      economic sanctions did not go decided to give pride of pride
  4. 0
    21 July 2016 12: 50
    And if you appeal, what is the name of a higher court or other court?
    1. +7
      21 July 2016 12: 53
      And if you appeal, what is the name of a higher court or other court?

      Divine....
    2. +2
      21 July 2016 12: 53
      Quote: potroshenko
      And if you appeal, what is the name of a higher court or other court?

      What for? They don’t need evidence; they decided everything long ago.
    3. +7
      21 July 2016 12: 56
      Quote: potroshenko
      And if you appeal the name of a higher court or other authority

      We are not used to complaining. The answer will be given with the help of their own "instances". And, I think, very, very asymmetrical.
      1. +1
        21 July 2016 13: 00
        Quote: Volodin
        And, it seems, very, very asymmetric.

        Alexey and what do you think? Here personally, nothing comes to my mind.
        hi hi
        1. +2
          21 July 2016 13: 06
          rather than start work on the collapse of the entire Olympic movement?
          1. +11
            21 July 2016 13: 11
            Quote: pimen
            rather than start work on the collapse of the entire Olympic movement?
        2. +5
          21 July 2016 13: 14
          Hi, Sash! I will say mysteriously: I have a couple of thoughts about this, and both of them are in no way connected with sports.
          1. +3
            21 July 2016 13: 22
            Quote: Volodin
            : I have a couple of thoughts about this, and both of them are in no way connected with sports.

            Well, not related to sports thoughts, I also have a lot laughing
            1. +11
              21 July 2016 14: 36
              hi , Alexey and Alexander!
              To begin with, stop playing by their rules in economics, diplomacy and so on. Not to violate the norms signed by Russia, namely, not to play by their rules. For example, do not be shy at a high level and constantly call things by their proper names, i.e. blame the United States for the constant genocide of peoples, starting with the Indians. What Foreign Ministry spokesman Zakharova says should be said by Putin and Lavrov. There is nothing to be ashamed of. Pindomatrasniki will not forgive us for our existence. And Babam's "partner" will not forgive Putin for his failure in Syria and the way the US newspapers carried him around the table for it.
              Take the rules of conduct for US satellites as a basis and add the "not" particle everywhere:
              - DO NOT keep your money from your partner.
              - Do not trust the "partner".
              - And so on and so forth.
        3. +10
          21 July 2016 13: 20
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: Volodin
          And, it seems, very, very asymmetric.

          Alexey and what do you think? Here personally, nothing comes to my mind.
          hi hi

          Reduce tourism. Do not purchase broadcasts. Stop buying ads. Prohibit advertising in domestic media. Reduce IOC funding. Refuse to purchase imported sports equipment ... This is billions of dollars. They will survive, of course. But they will understand the hint.
          1. +2
            21 July 2016 13: 22
            Quote: Cube123
            Refuse to purchase imported sports equipment ...

            And by the way, the topic for import substitution ...
          2. +1
            21 July 2016 13: 25
            Quote: Cube123
            Reduce tourism.

            How do you propose doing in North Korea?
            Quote: Cube123
            Do not purchase broadcasts.

            recourse
            Quote: Cube123
            . Refuse to purchase imported sports equipment.

            Do we have domestic equipment, besides rifles for biathlon?
            1. +1
              21 July 2016 13: 38
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Do we have domestic equipment, besides rifles for biathlon?

              So this is the crown for import substitution, the decision could be right. Only it needs to be carried out gradually, in accordance with the commissioning of production facilities, the Americans are buying our rocket engines and nothing, no sanctions interfere, and now I am nuclear fuel for nuclear power plants ...
              1. -3
                21 July 2016 16: 03
                Only it needs to be done ..... And who will do it? Putin has given orders to the government (lieutenant of all Russia) and where are the results? Anyone punished for not fulfilling? Yes, they lied on Putin with his instructions.
              2. 0
                21 July 2016 20: 29
                Quote: Dali
                So this is the crown for import substitution, the decision could be right. T

                are we in the domestic automotive industry switched to domestic cars? and never cross over.
            2. +3
              21 July 2016 13: 42
              Alexander Romanov 13:25
              Reduce tourism.
              How do you propose doing in North Korea?

              "In war, as in war!" winked
              Alexander Romanov 13:25
              Do we have domestic equipment, besides rifles for biathlon?
              Maybe it will appear? Demand creates supply.

              I forgot one more. Personal responsibility of sports functionaries. And foreign business trips drastically cut.
            3. 0
              21 July 2016 13: 48
              And whose skis in biathlon?
          3. HAM
            0
            21 July 2016 13: 45
            Look in Mudko’s honest eyes, and everything will become clear to you.
            1. +2
              21 July 2016 13: 49
              Quote: HAM
              Look in Mudko’s honest eyes, and everything will become clear to you.

              There is also a boss over Mutko. And he does not receive state funding for "honest eyes". Payment for labor is proportional to the contribution to the common cause. Yes, and Zhukov is clearly underdeveloped here.
            2. 0
              21 July 2016 16: 44
              Quote: HAM
              Look into Mudko’s honest eyes, and everything will become clear to you

              Enough to attack Vitaly Mildonievich already, I even feel sorry for him, what do you think should have done when no one needs proof there, and the perpetrators are appointed ... And his only fault is probably in poor English that they still can’t forgive him when he said Euroconnection ..
          4. 0
            21 July 2016 14: 58
            Refuse to purchase imported sports equipment ... This is billions of dollars. They will survive, of course.


            "They" will survive ... And ours? Will our people who have stuck to this also survive? wink After all, this is all (and advertising, too) a piece of "gross domestic product" and a lot of money (and budget, from the treasury), smoothly and faithfully flowing into private pockets ... Oh, no words ...
          5. 0
            21 July 2016 16: 14
            Reduce tourism. Do not purchase broadcasts. Stop buying ads. Prohibit advertising in domestic media. Reduce IOC funding. Refuse to purchase imported sports equipment ... This is billions of dollars. They will survive, of course. But they will understand the hint.

            but what about us securities, in which billions are swelling? Is investing in our own production less profitable ??
            1. +1
              21 July 2016 17: 41
              Quote: Yuyuka

              but what about us securities, in which billions are swelling? Is investing in our own production less profitable ??

              Why bullshit toil repeating someone else's nonsense? A country owes many times more than it swells into US securities. Therefore, consider these investments simply as collateral for loans received.

              Russian public debt counter http://countrymeters.info/ru/Russian_Federation/economy
              Debts of more than $ 440 billion. Investments of less than a hundred billion.
              1. 0
                22 July 2016 01: 22
                Why bullshit toil repeating someone else's nonsense? A country owes many times more than it swells into US securities. Therefore, consider these investments simply as collateral for loans received.

                Of course, it’s better to offer your nonsense about the ban on import inventory or advertising request

                poo-poo about bullshit ... Russia's foreign debt tends to decrease, and a decent one - in 2013 it was almost 730 billion, despite all the sanctions and the recession in the economy. They invest in securities because of good profitability, they simply don’t want to lose the extra money, because investing in our economy will not bring income so quickly, but in fact we help not to collapse the American pyramid! hi
                1. 0
                  22 July 2016 08: 48
                  Quote: Yuyuka
                  poo-poo about bullshit ... Russia's foreign debt tends to decrease, and a decent one - in 2013 it was almost 730 billion, despite all the sanctions and the recession in the economy. They invest in securities because of good profitability, they simply don’t want to lose the extra money, because investing in our economy will not bring income so quickly, but in fact we help not to collapse the American pyramid! hi

                  Debt is therefore reduced because it is seriously involved. 150 billion per year decline for a reason. Despite the decline in oil and gas prices.
                  They are invested in US securities because it is the country's gold and foreign exchange reserves. Profitability there is ridiculous - less than half a percent per annum http://ru.investing.com/rates-bonds/usa-government-bonds
                  And gold reserves are needed to finance the foreign trade deficit. If you simply turn these $ 100 billion into rubles and spend, then, according to existing rules, the country should withdraw 6 trillion from its circulation. ruble Because the country's money supply is strictly related to the volume of gold reserves. Therefore, your proposal to invest money within the country will not bring any benefit to the country. Gold reserves are needed to balance foreign trade. Inside the country you need to live for rubles.
          6. +1
            21 July 2016 20: 26
            Quote: Cube123
            Cut tourism

            another and not a small hole in the budget. impose sanctions on ourselves?

            Quote: Cube123
            Stop buying ads.

            I didn’t hear that we are buying advertising from them. why do we need it?
            Quote: Cube123
            Prohibit advertising in domestic media

            domestic media live mainly through advertising. impose sanctions again, but already on our own media
            Quote: Cube123
            Reduce IOC funding.

            fixed funding. or pay everything or nothing. it's like a rent. half you can’t get off. Well, who does not pay, or owes a lot ... well, in general, it’s clear
            Quote: Cube123
            Refuse to purchase imported sports equipment.

            Do we have our own quality? then ban the import of foreign cars and transplant everyone into domestic cars
      2. +3
        21 July 2016 13: 08
        Quote: Volodin
        And, it seems, very, very asymmetric.

        Yes, I would like to understand, but how can I answer ... if only by measures outside the sport, for example, who should sell the thread to someone, or for example, return troops to Syria and equip the Syrian army normally, so that Israel would have no complaints laughing
    4. 0
      21 July 2016 13: 04
      Quote: potroshenko
      And if you appeal, what is the name of a higher court or other court?

      there is no such
  5. +2
    21 July 2016 12: 51
    Long live the Court of Arbitration for Sport in Lausanne! The most "fair" Court in the world! (to make them empty). Now let's see what kind of integrity our athletes will show. They seem to have a choice.
    Russia should respond to such mischief very harshly, since this is a "blow below the belt."
    1. +9
      21 July 2016 13: 02
      Quote: x.andvlad
      Long live the Court of Arbitration for Sport in Lausanne! The most "fair" Court in the world! (to make them empty). Now let's see what kind of integrity our athletes will show. They seem to have a choice.
      Russia should respond to such mischief very harshly, since this is a "blow below the belt."

      There are 68 lawsuits for violation of human rights in the ECHR. With compensation for 500 (your choice of currency) per person. And the lawsuit is not a collective one. Oh, and 000 cases are difficult to "screw up"! There "without evidence the accused" does not work.
  6. +6
    21 July 2016 12: 55
    Mudka to drive with pissed rags, in the current situation 100% of NOC's wine
    it’s not a goat’s pregnancy itself will not resolve, seeing a planned attack on the state, this .... modestly stood aside as an observer
    it was necessary to start everything even when the first film of this "Hans" was released and to sue and not play around with pears
    1. +5
      21 July 2016 15: 04
      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
      even when the first film of this "Hans" was released

      it was necessary not to kick oneself in the chest with a heel, not to shout "this is a zakazukha", but to initiate an investigation themselves, take Rodchenko by the gills, close him. To suspend officials, to carry out an inspection of the anti-doping laboratory itself, with the involvement of foreign experts. The output would have:
      1. Rodchenko in the zone, not in the states.
      2. There are no arguments on the "state. Doping program"
      3. There is no reason to remove the Russian team.
      Of course, this is not a complete list. The main thing was TIME NOT TO LOSE.
      1. +1
        21 July 2016 15: 10
        it was necessary to sue, and in international courts, to demand evidence (real), and not by my mother I swear yes
        1. +2
          21 July 2016 19: 08
          To sue is also an option. Sue Hans, let him prove it.
          In any case, in the current situation in all areas to sue. The principle of collective responsibility is a return to the Middle Ages. Refusal of the presumption of innocence is the same rake. Let them advance.
    2. 0
      21 July 2016 20: 41
      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
      Mudka to drive with pissed rags, in the current situation 100% of NOC's wine

      for what to drive ??? what is the NOC to blame ???? Yes, everything has already been decided in advance !!! Nobody listened to us !!!! Well, imagine, you came to court, you say something, you say a long time. speaking right. and then you notice that the judges’s eyes are closed, their ears are closed, and on the table lies an ACCUSSION verdict written a year ago !!! Well, remember Eurovision. everything was clear even then
      1. +1
        21 July 2016 21: 57
        Quote: Lukich
        for what to drive ??? what is the NOC to blame ????

        The NOC is to blame for the inaction, it all did not start yesterday and it was clear to what it was already this fall, but the NOC pretended that everything was in order, although refutations and investigations and lawsuits against "Hans" were needed
      2. 0
        21 July 2016 22: 03
        Quote: Lukich
        you came to court, you say something, you say a long time. speaking right. and then you notice that the judges’s eyes are closed, their ears are closed, and on the table lies an ACCUSSION verdict written a year ago !!!

        judges didn’t have to buy, an appropriate background was created for this year, but the fault was the fact that he didn’t change that background, and even the last trial could not be satisfied
        1. 0
          21 July 2016 22: 24
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          for this year, the corresponding background was created,

          Yes, for example, I said about the year. bullying has been going on for many years.
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          But the fault of MUdka is that he did not change this background, and even until the last trial it was possible to not be satisfied

          do you even read how will he change it IF IF NO ONE WANTS TO LISTEN TO US ?????????? this is called a forehead against a wall !!!! ё! that’s how I tell you, but you won’t hear it. EVERYTHING IS ALREADY DECIDED !!!! not one country will say a word for us at the IOC. is it really hard to understand ???? we are an outcast country !!!! name at least one ally who has weight in the world ????
          1. 0
            22 July 2016 06: 52
            Quote: Lukich
            Yes, for example, I said about the year. bullying has been going on for many years.

            I’m talking about a specific situation with athletics, the starting point is fall 14 the first film and then on growing, competently, thoughtfully and very beautifully, well, if you consider this situation, so to speak
            stuffing metered in time made no one extra movement
  7. +2
    21 July 2016 12: 55
    Well, that's predictable. The image of the enemy should not have "bright spots". Must have horns and hooves and breathe out sulfur. Yes, still drink the blood of Christian babies ... Oh, isn't it from there? I apologize.
    1. +1
      21 July 2016 13: 10
      Wait, why did you forget the virgins ?! Need a virgin ...
  8. +6
    21 July 2016 12: 55
    To score a big "bolt" is not this Olympiad. We will be sued there anyway. Let them choke. It has long been clear that you will not find the truth here. Host your own competitions.
    1. +5
      21 July 2016 12: 59
      "Goodwill Games" for example?
      1. +2
        21 July 2016 13: 02
        Why not? Athletes from different countries will come with pleasure.
        1. +6
          21 July 2016 13: 16
          Then we must proudly declare that if athletes do not go, no one goes !!! Boycott!!! Although I doubt that it will be so ...
          1. 0
            21 July 2016 20: 49
            Quote: Masya Masya
            Then we must proudly declare that if athletes do not go, no one goes !!! Boycott!!!

            Well then, goodbye to the 2018 World Cup
        2. 0
          21 July 2016 20: 47
          Quote: dsm100
          Why not? Athletes from different countries will come with pleasure.

          from which different? Sasha will shout and all these "different" countries will cut off oxygen for all the athlete. remember 1980. did a lot come from the capitalist countries? Now name how many friendly countries do we have left? there are serious athletes: to arrange a parody? make the world laugh?
  9. +4
    21 July 2016 12: 57
    I was just firmly convinced that everything would end with this - pure sport is over, now it’s politics, and as coal said, sanctions against Russia. Therefore, we also need to look for an answer to such an attitude towards us. And I’m also 90% sure that World Cup 2018 will also be frustrated. You need to answer smartly and harshly - no appeals to anyone will change anything.
  10. +3
    21 July 2016 12: 58
    Miracles do not happen, they were shown by the example of Blatter what happens to the obstinate.
  11. +3
    21 July 2016 12: 59
    and who are the judges? someday these people will be excruciatingly bitter and ashamed for what they once did by making a deal with the Yankees and their own conscience, may they be damned by their descendants ...
    1. +1
      21 July 2016 13: 30
      Quote: Volka
      and who are the judges? someday, these people will be excruciatingly bitter and ashamed of what they once did when they made a deal with the Yankees and their own conscience,

      Money does not smell, but big money exudes the aroma of well-being. Conscience is an ephemeral concept, and the best wish is, "Let them choke on this money so that they do not swallow it or spit it out. And let people look at what self-interest and greed bring. the fate of King Midas: to have a golden touch and die of hunger and thirst.
    2. 0
      21 July 2016 17: 28
      They should just hurt !!!
  12. +21
    21 July 2016 13: 01
    It’s time for Rospotrebnadzor to check any a restaurant amerskoy McDonald's in Russia, find in it benzopyrene and close the entire network. am We answer collectively.

    Revenue in 2014, in Russia - 52 billion rubles.

    Let's see if she will take away the loss on revenue from sponsorship of the Olympics. am

    We also need to check the American Procter and Gamble (revenue in Russia in 2014 - 53 billion rubles) for carcinogens. Be sure to find them in some packaging; fine and wrap up all shipments to Russia. The path receives money from the Olympics, on which there are no our athletes. am
    1. 0
      21 July 2016 13: 08
      But the point is, they pay taxes, our people work there and get paid. Our suppliers supply products there. Who will get worse from closing the network?
      1. +2
        21 July 2016 13: 16
        And what, wipe ???

        They shit under our door and scream like Ludwig Aristarkhovich, "And who-oh-oh did that?"

        Moreover, the usefulness of McDonald's products is in great doubt.
        1. -2
          21 July 2016 15: 54
          And here to wipe yourself? Just do not use the principle: "I will rip out my eyes so that my mother-in-law has a curve." We must look for another way to respond and that it would hurt them. But our people should not suffer even a small amount.
      2. +1
        21 July 2016 14: 14
        Quote: StarOver
        Who will get worse from closing the network?

        Wai-wai, they pay taxes! We trample without their taxes. This year seen enough on the beach: normal children - 40% percent, the rest - fat basses of all sizes. With such a complexion, I would have chased them along the beach instead of lunch, but no, mothers and fathers of children are dragging them to McDonald's. Well, who will get worse from closing the network?
        1. 0
          21 July 2016 21: 04
          Quote: Corporal Valera
          Wai-wai, they pay taxes! We trample without their taxes.

          required. only then don’t go and say why the pension is small and the state employees are paid little. and this is all taken from taxes. and let me remind you of the old adage, a little chicken pecking a grain. and the river is never big and wide at once. from streams and fontanels eats. so do not overlap them. so mother and father need to drive, and not close everything
      3. +1
        21 July 2016 14: 23
        Quote: StarOver
        But the point is, they pay taxes, our people work there and get paid.

        so maybe we’ll legalize the brothels, let them pay taxes
        send your daughter or wife there to work?
        1. 0
          21 July 2016 21: 10
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

          so maybe we’ll legalize the brothels, let them pay taxes
          send your daughter or wife there to work?

          juggle why? not serious. just as well, I can offer you a way to avenge that judge. go there, find him, put poop in your mouth and spit in his face. let it dry !!! and about taxes ... these are pensions, salaries to state employees, army expenses and much more. and therefore the state is VERY closely monitoring taxation.
          1. 0
            22 July 2016 06: 58
            Quote: Lukich
            juggle why? not serious. just as well, I can offer you a way to avenge that judge. go there, find him, put poop in your mouth and spit in his face. let it dry !!! and about taxes ... it's pensions, salaries to state employees,

            it’s not juggling, brothels are also salaries and pensions, we keep, instead of developing ourselves
            this is a long topic, but not quite a topic, sorry for taftalogy
      4. 0
        21 July 2016 15: 52
        Quote: StarOver
        But the point is, they pay taxes, our people work there and get paid. Our suppliers supply products there. Who will get worse from closing the network?


        Mikhalkov, on the other hand, will open his "Eat like home" not for nothing that he asked a lard for this case wink
        1. APS
          0
          21 July 2016 17: 01
          They don’t have time to come to the Chinese with a new product, they immediately copy it and open their production facilities, and even their cheeks do not blush and do it right. And I would try food from Mikhalkov, if it is really at home, I would love to come with children ...
      5. -2
        21 July 2016 16: 32
        But the point is, they pay taxes, our people work there and get paid. Our suppliers supply products there. Who will get worse from closing the network?

        Well, was it wrong with the legs? so that we eat if not for the "legs" request I remember Mikhalkov offered to open the Eat at Home network, asked to support ... there will be those who want to compete with this American "feeding trough", but the desire on the part of the state government to support their entrepreneur ...
        1. -1
          22 July 2016 01: 55
          But the point is, they pay taxes, our people work there and get paid. Our suppliers supply products there. Who will get worse from closing the network?

          Well, was it wrong with the legs? so that we eat if it were not for the "legs" request I remember Mikhalkov proposed to open the "Eat at Home" network, asked to support ... there will be those who want to compete with this American "feeding trough", but the desire on the part of the state government to support their entrepreneur.

          two "Bush legs" minus put wassat they see nostalgia in their 90s request malignacies do not understand ...
    2. +1
      21 July 2016 13: 08
      And where are the people? And where are our products? Everything has been Russian for a long time in McDuck.
      1. 0
        21 July 2016 13: 17
        Quote: Maxim73
        And where are the people? And where are our products? Everything has been Russian for a long time in McDuck.
        Yeah, everything but profit ... laughing
        Therefore, do not close ... but make profit leave in Russia. How? There are options, up to a voluntary sale for not expensive this business ...
        1. 0
          21 July 2016 21: 14
          Quote: Dali
          and make profit leave in Russia. How? There are options, up to a voluntary sale for not expensive this business

          select and share everything !!! So it seems one dog said, temporarily became a man. exactly, Sharikov her last name was laughing Well, he will sell to you for inexpensive, only who will go to us with the investment ??? and these are very big money
    3. +7
      21 July 2016 13: 12
      It is time for Rospotrebnadzor to check any Amer-McDonald's restaurant in Russia, find carcinogens in it and close the entire network. am We answer collectively.

      Revenue in 2014, in Russia - 52 billion rubles.

      Let's see if she will take away the loss on revenue from sponsorship of the Olympics. am


      so if citizens also showed solidarity with respect to American companies, not only in the area to eat and drink, but also in cinemas, where, with rare exceptions, the American shit goes!
      1. +1
        21 July 2016 14: 04
        if also citizens showed solidarity with respect to American companies, not only in the area to eat and drink

        citizens, not all of course, but many, express their solidarity only verbally, but how does it come to Roshenka on the cheek and in Turkey
      2. +1
        21 July 2016 14: 24
        so if citizens also showed solidarity with respect to American companies, not only in the area to eat and drink, but also in cinemas, where, with rare exceptions, the American shit goes!


        It’s even easier. laughing

        Only for some reason, the Duma does not understand this.

        They steal our Kalashnikovs and RPG-7?
        So we have to steal torrent trackers. And the vile Duma is trying to block them. am
      3. 0
        21 July 2016 21: 19
        Quote: Yuyuka
        so if citizens also showed solidarity with respect to American companies, not only in the area to eat and drink, but also in cinemas, where, with rare exceptions, the American shit goes!

        for sure. and even better all foreign cars sold, moved to domestic. took off all the imported clothing, including jeans, and put on all their own. someone did not have enough? nonsense, bare and walk. pension has become small? it is from taxes. stopped paying ...
        1. 0
          22 July 2016 01: 47
          Quote: Yuyuka
          so if citizens also showed solidarity with respect to American companies, not only in the area to eat and drink, but also in cinemas, where, with rare exceptions, the American shit goes!

          for sure. and even better all foreign cars sold, moved to domestic. took off all the imported clothing, including jeans, and put on all their own. someone did not have enough? nonsense, bare and walk. pension has become small? it is from taxes. stopped paying ...


          as one smart man said

          juggle why? not serious. just as well, I can offer you a way to avenge that judge. go there, find him, put poop in your mouth and spit in his face. let it dry !!!
          feel

          you just need to selectively apply sanctions - to study, study and study (s) with the same Americans. After all, they did not refuse the necessary engines? It is necessary to punish selectively, exactly where we can do our own, albeit not immediately, but we must do something!

          and more ... just the words of one Serb

          “Why do you need Europe, Russians? It is hard to find a more self-sufficient people than you. It is Europe that needs you, but not you. There are so many of you - as many as three countries, but there is no unity! You have everything of your own: a lot of land, energy, fuel, water, science, industry, culture. When we had Yugoslavia and we were united, we felt like a great force capable of turning mountains. Now, because of our stupidity, nationalism, unwillingness to hear each other, Yugoslavia is no more and we are acne on the political map of Europe, new markets for their dear junk and American democracy. ”
    4. 0
      21 July 2016 15: 08
      It is time for Rospotrebnadzor to check any Amer-McDonald's restaurant in Russia, find petrol-fire in it and close the entire network. am We answer collectively.


      Not to close, but to nationalize at the expense of the health of our fatty fast food lovers.
    5. 0
      21 July 2016 15: 22
      I will freeze my ears to evil mom. This is all American for a long time only in name.
      They unfasten the brand owners for the brand name, the rest is Russian companies.
    6. APS
      +1
      21 July 2016 16: 51
      Close and deal with the end! Yes, and quality control is needed for these fast foods. For 10 years I went down once - you eat it seems delicious, and then heartburn and nausea. You’ll try it like smoking first - muck then again and again and again and slowly accustom your body to muck. So with this food at Magdonalds, which has a place in the garbage!
  13. +2
    21 July 2016 13: 02
    Will Russia continue to finance international sports organizations and their offices?
    And how much? And how can now our sports and sports elite, who have missed the interests of Russian sports in the international arena, hang out beautifully at the Olympiads and championships for state money? And what should our athletes, driven into a corner by "friends of Russia", do?
  14. +5
    21 July 2016 13: 02
    It seems to me that no one is surprised or indignant (in the shower). Everything was predictable and expected. But, damn it, it's a shame that there is nothing to answer. You cannot boycott the Olympics, because our sworn "friends" will surely create a loud podlyana there and clearly who will be accused, good, there is a reason. Therefore, we will be outraged in words and on the same ... we will sit down.
  15. +7
    21 July 2016 13: 04
    this is a complete failure of our officials from the sport! Under the USSR, they would never have dared say so, we must use all possible levers of pressure against those countries that are yapping at Russia! although now these levers are probably not enough, but I think there are. Our athletes were simply left to their own devices - they thought maybe they were lucky, they would regret ... But actually, as far as I remember, the KGB was well versed in sports in the USSR feel and in fact, politics and sports were inseparable ... Why aren't the special services protecting sports interests ?? It is no secret that the successes of our athletes and failures have a huge impact on the mood in society. hi
    1. 0
      21 July 2016 14: 45
      It’s as if I’m seeing live a film shot in the best traditions of organizations, when those who punished collectively our team are sitting in front of the camera (maybe in makeup, maybe the last time crying ) and tell where, who and why they were honored with ...
      good Here's a funny comedy ...

      In any case, you should not be discouraged, think through all the response steps and ... from words to action.
      hi
  16. +2
    21 July 2016 13: 07
    Initially, it was necessary to make a statement that this whole situation is a political provocation and our athletes refuse to go to the politicized Olympics and so on, so on, in a pompous spirit ... Well, remove Mutko, if he himself does not think of writing a statement "of his own free will" ... Some kind of toothlessness.
  17. +2
    21 July 2016 13: 08
    They can’t cope with us, and they use any methods to inflict damage to Russia. If you have reached the sport, then the methods are already ending. As I understand it, they will soon take up the ballet, and there it will reach the philatelists.
  18. +3
    21 July 2016 13: 09
    If you understand that there is a war of the West against Russia, then the situation is not surprising. And officials, well, what to do with them, if, knowing everything that happens, they behave like rams - apparently they studied on them.
  19. +7
    21 July 2016 13: 09
    We survived the Los Angeles Olympics and survive this. Perhaps these events will serve as an impetus for some changes in the future. And then this anti-doping fuss has already got everyone.
  20. +8
    21 July 2016 13: 10
    I can’t understand, the country has the most powerful capabilities in intelligence and counterintelligence, is able to carry out the same operations with respect to the West. Really can not dig up on these clowns a sufficient amount of the same shit and pour them at the very reluctance?
    It is necessary to change the position and if you hit on the big cheek, do not substitute the other, but cut in, as it should with the right-left and legs, feet, finish until they stop whining.

    I do not believe that the organizations concerned have no leverage over all of these Western puppets.
    1. +1
      21 July 2016 14: 51
      Quote: sir_obs
      I can’t understand, the country has the most powerful intelligence and counterintelligence capabilities.

      Those who are now in power for some reason ( request ) feel love and attraction to the Western way of life and to banknotes, where there are no views of Russia, but all sorts of different presidents of the United States ... Perhaps they do not want to get into the black lists of travel abroad ...
  21. +6
    21 July 2016 13: 10
    Under this brand, it is necessary to conduct an audit of Russia's international legal obligations and refuse everything that we don’t like and dislike.
  22. 0
    21 July 2016 13: 12
    Drive these foreign "anti-doping" (read Mutko's statement) experts along with foreign institutions of crap in the neck ...
  23. +6
    21 July 2016 13: 21
    Our sports officials lost this fight ... It's a pity for the athletes, they prepared so much.
    1. +3
      21 July 2016 13: 55
      but did they do something to win it? Rodchenkova with whom it all began is not wise, and others like him dragged to RUSADA? I’m generally silent about the fuss with meldonium, these sports leaders can only roll something for free abroad, and with those who won something next they take pictures of the type involved.
  24. 0
    21 July 2016 13: 23
    Quote: Alexander Romanov

    Alexey and what do you think? Here personally, nothing comes to my mind.
    hi hi

    Yes, there was already a proposal to arrange sanctions on the territory of Russia for the sponsor companies of the Olympiad. Quite a reasonable proposal, it seems to me.
    1. +1
      21 July 2016 13: 31
      Quote: soul
      arrange sanctions on the territory of Russia for the sponsor companies of the Olympiad.

      What do sponsors have to do with it?
      1. 0
        21 July 2016 14: 59
        Learn to think logically. Do sponsors like that they will lose business revenue in Russia? The answer is obvious. And who if not those who give money are able to influence the IOC?
  25. +2
    21 July 2016 13: 33
    A good option would be to show incriminating evidence to all these IOCs, and on the screens at the opening of the Olympics, that everyone would see. But this is a huge job for scouts and programmers (
    1. +3
      21 July 2016 14: 00
      In my opinion, this is not feasible for one reason, formulated in the Russian proverb: "A crow will not peck out a crow's eye", because they all feed together and from the same trough! And why is it easier to turn off the financial tap from Russia to this IOC in response to the chaos. our officials even PACE, where they continue to "feed" us with mud, albeit in a reduced volume. Everyone knows everything about everyone, but for some reason our leaders are very "shy" when they mix us with mud, they declare that we don't do that! But if you don’t do it, then get out of your bread place and it’s time to think about the Guarantor about the fact that in the oath he spoke about protecting the interests of the country and the people, but maybe this is not about us ?!
  26. +2
    21 July 2016 13: 33
    And ours (now there is already doubt that they are ours) will continue to "chew snot", you read the statements of the President's press secretary, Mr. Peskov in relation to attacks against our Olympic team, and questions will disappear by themselves, like burdocks from a dog's tail ! Painfully often so-called. ours began to please the monsters from the Fashingtong Regional Committee and what would it be for? What nasty things they have invented for us and the country, these so-called. our leaders? Here are good gentlemen and material for thought in the light of the upcoming elections to the Duma! No, for such rulers from Edrossov I will never vote for life! Better for Zhirinovsky, he would have bent this bastard "sled" at a time!
    1. -2
      21 July 2016 14: 37
      I warmly support! I listened to Peskov's statement, the impression is that he cannot chew his snot in any way. Amazing to him. you see it became a court decision. and even somewhere strange. I, too, will not vote for edrosov, but neither will I vote for Zhirinovsky. I prefer Rodina, but it's a matter of taste.
  27. +2
    21 July 2016 13: 36
    It would be better to show the all-army games and in every possible way developed a real sport, applied, and not these meaningless games. Who needs jumping or javelin now? The Olympic Games were born as a competition of warriors in military-applied types of competitions, it is time to return to the roots.
  28. +6
    21 July 2016 13: 37
    In 1984 we already skipped OI. And in 88 they returned and tore everyone in Seoul. It is necessary to restore order in sports. All the top officials - out!
  29. +11
    21 July 2016 13: 43
    and all one she has the best result
  30. +2
    21 July 2016 13: 45
    In June 23, 1894, the International Olympic Committee was founded in Paris at the initiative of Baron Pierre de Coubertin. “Sport is beyond politics,” the baron said, naively believing that no international conflicts would interfere with the competition. Here is a naive baron! Contrary to popular belief, IOC members are not national Olympic committees, but individuals in the amount of no more than 115 people, of which 70 members are not associated with any particular position or type of activity, 15 members are active athletes, 15 Members are represented by international sports federations or their associations and 15 members are represented by national Olympic committees or their associations. All IOC individuals are elected to the dark, hence the result!
  31. +1
    21 July 2016 13: 45
    They "crush" us from all sides, can we really not stand it?
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    2. 0
      21 July 2016 13: 59
      this crush ?? fellow nahai choke !!! Stalin suffered in the Olympics ??? wassat
  32. +3
    21 July 2016 13: 46
    Interestingly, what is Mudko responsible for?
    Failure, failure, and he just ravings some kind of babbling and that’s it.
  33. +2
    21 July 2016 13: 47
    For this, they removed the president of Brazil, the dilemma Rousseff, the main thing for half a year just so as not to interfere with the Olympic Games. They will chew on all the world media I think it’s understandable for what purpose. fantasize then, say, during the Olympics make a landing on Mars or the moon, but why the hell would I look at that Olympics then!
  34. +3
    21 July 2016 13: 49
    the court, clearly preaching medieval collective responsibility and ignoring the basis of modern law - the presumption of innocence - made the following decision: dismiss the claim of Russian athletes.

    As if we first learned that international law applies only selectively to Russia, as the states need it. But conclusions from this need to be made and unsinkable wisely who brought the situation to the present, give a delicious kick in the ass.
  35. +1
    21 July 2016 13: 51
    This is not why the United States started all this WADOVA company, to now admit Russian athletes to the Olympics. Without Russian athletes, it will be easier to divide the medals, more will be gained. And Russia needs to make serious decisions, why does the US run everything? Why the influence of Russia, in defense of their athletes is not heard, missed this moment, and the "friends" were insolent. It is clear that they are trying to bite us at least somehow, in response we must at least scratch. Why did our special services not see this sabotage in time, and it really is sabotage against our country.
  36. +2
    21 July 2016 13: 51
    And who or what is CAS and for whom are its decisions binding? From the point of view of law, I say as a lawyer, his decisions are binding only on himself. In the sense that he can judge himself how much he wants or how much he likes. But for everyone else, his decision is an empty phrase. For the IOC (International Olympic Committee), its decisions are definitely not binding. And everyone knows this and everyone understands this. But all the power structures of all states, including, unfortunately, the Russian Federation, use this situation to their advantage. Only athletes suffer, and so do the fans.
    1. +1
      21 July 2016 14: 08
      For removal, some kind of legal basis is needed. They are not here . I do not understand the authorities of the Russian Federation. Or they play like that with a specialist, create an intrigue, because everyone knows and understands that no one can refuse to participate in athletes if they comply with all norms and laws. And for anyone, when everything is resolved, someone will do PR on this.
  37. +1
    21 July 2016 13: 51
    Well, here is politics on the face! the option is only that with the Allies to boycott the Olympics and disband and assemble new global sports committees that cannot fly the same with anti-doping! after all, someone does not guarantee that the next will not be the Chinese and everyone else!
  38. +2
    21 July 2016 13: 57
    Oscar, Nobel Prize, Olympic Games, Eurovision, ... - well, who is reasonable to prove to me that these are not political projects ?!
    no need to wave them !!
  39. +3
    21 July 2016 13: 58
    Wolves are shameful! Well, all right, they once created a precedent from Kosovo, we responded with Crimea, they created a precedent with the presumption of innocence, well, I hope we find something to answer in the near future! Okay, I’ll rub myself this time, I’m not vindictive, but I have a good memory! hi angry
  40. +5
    21 July 2016 14: 03
    Someone said: Sports pharmacists. Our pharmacists lost this war.
  41. +1
    21 July 2016 14: 05
    this whole story is more and more reminiscent of my litigation with the tax authorities: the same complete disregard for laws and regulations, they act only on some instructions they have invented, which are not laws at all. Moreover, they understand that they are wrong, but they cannot openly admit it, since the whole system will collapse and "trust" will disappear.
    All evidence is taken out of context numbers, not backed up by any analytics or legal acts. But you can fight them. In my case, with a creak, but the enemies recognize a little bit of defeat, but the bastards are still twitching.
  42. +5
    21 July 2016 14: 11
    The Olympiad has long been a sloppy competition, which is absolutely politicized and subjective .... I have seen enough of our athletes being condemned over and over again ... therefore over the past 10 years I have only watched Sochi ... for home. Only one desire ... that they gently removed ... this senility. For the evaluation of the work of the Minister of Sports is the result of the Olympiad (there is no need to talk about mass sports absent in the country). and the result is now worse than before. But if they don’t take it away ... then our state in the person of Putin and Medvedev will personally fall below the plinth for me and will be equal to Chubais. For then I do not even know what the ministers must do to be fired.
  43. +2
    21 July 2016 14: 14
    In fact, what did we want and what were we hoping for? I did not quite understand our expectations and hopes that there were smart, not engaged people sitting there and they would figure everything out. First, you need to understand that these organizations have seasoned officials who set the rules themselves, which I also change during the game. Ordinary legal norms here either do not apply at all or operate in a limited way, depending on the situation. We were immediately given a clear understanding that the principle of the presumption of innocence does not apply to our team and we will be treated like the inhabitants of a plague barrack, and they will only communicate with them after a long quarantine. In this case, it is very unprofessional and simply stupid to appeal to some higher principles. The only remedy that can defuse the situation is to go to court at the location of the IOC and the sports court. After all, our partners, having skillfully played the combination, at the same time made many mistakes. An example is the mention of a "rotten and corrupt regime", which is simply unthinkable for a sports organization. In a fit of feelings, or, more simply, hatred, the persons participating in the combination said and wrote a lot of things that should not have been released. And what went on with brilliance in sports court can cause a completely different reaction in the usual court, if you have good lawyers. This way, you can gain courage and at least once in your life to win a trial (and restore our honor) from kovs who are accustomed to impunity and our immense tolerance for faces with whom you cannot even sit next to.
    1. +1
      21 July 2016 14: 41
      That's the whole tragedy with the courts. Who are the judges? You think that judges at the location of the IOC have less tin eyes than in CAS, I don’t think so. It’s unrealistic to turn to the Western courts for truth. Remember the Hague.
      1. +1
        21 July 2016 14: 51
        Nooo! In these courts we will be represented not by the Olympic champion with burning eyes and incomprehensible logic, but by seasoned Western lawyers who operate on facts. And with the facts, those who concocted the report are very tight. To this also politicized statements, accidentally torn from the tongue. And Rodchenko’s challenge to the court with his fables will also exceed his nuances. I think that here we could really crush them.
      2. +1
        21 July 2016 15: 36
        court, the thing is normal and can solve a lot if everything is done correctly. Even in Russia, you can win the case if you simply write the statement correctly and legally correctly. A judge makes decisions not on the basis of emotions, but on the basis of facts and points of law. If the law spells out the procedure, no matter how no one gets hungry, the court will force everyone to comply with the points of the law. I myself have already sued more than once and especially had no problems with judges, although in our country they are just as biased and amenable to external pressure.
        Russia was smart enough to win the Yukos case.
  44. +1
    21 July 2016 14: 16
    They eat everything all over the world, because sport is not physical education, but great achievements and grandmothers,
    and we come across ((
    1. +3
      21 July 2016 15: 08
      I heard that in elite sports, the limit of human capabilities was reached in the last century. All that is outside the lot of the only ones, of which there are one or two on earth and there are no more. But there are much more people eager to gain Olympic glory. According to the laws of a market economy, demand creates supply. Chemists have mastered the market niche. The most advanced doping chemistry appeared in America. Rodchenkov, at the request of our coaches, carried doping from America with suitcases. Don't tell my sneakers. Personally, I once had the stupidity to export some material that we made for a foreign partner under a completely legal contract. In short, I didn't fly away then, after which we wrote a whole bunch of documents, which in the end made it possible to withdraw this completely harmless chemical. So just as and when Rodchenkov decided to take out his first suitcase, he immediately got there on a pencil in the competent authorities. After which he was either immediately recruited or used as a useful idiot. That's the whole mechanism. Rodchenkov made a great profit on overseas doping, while overseas "friends and partners" recorded the whole process and waited for the right moment. And then he came. To excuse himself, Rodchenkov was ordered to make a violation - to destroy the archive of samples. A case was allegedly brought up against him. but somehow lazily, so he slipped away to America. That's all. I will also add that in the McLaren report we were charged with the early creation of a bank of clean samples. But those who at least somehow understands in chemical analysis should know that in each analysis a standard is needed, because each person has a unique composition of metabolites in urine. As for the FSB agent disguised as a plumber, this is complete nonsense. That FSB agents smell something special?
      1. 0
        21 July 2016 19: 55
        I also read a report on fraud in Sochi today))) neighing about the FSB officer-plumber _))) After all, really stupid people. All at the level of a test tube with washing powder
  45. 0
    21 July 2016 14: 21
    Proudly raise your head and send them all, well, in general, you yourself know where. I won’t even look.
  46. 0
    21 July 2016 14: 28
    I have a comment on this news - graphic.
    A little in a hurry, but really hurt ...
  47. +1
    21 July 2016 14: 30
    the scan did not immediately crawl ...
  48. +3
    21 July 2016 14: 44
    What are our sports officials doing? Do not remember any of their gestures that would help our athletes. We lose all the courts, there are no intelligible answers to slander and distortion of facts. They behave like mongrels, who are kicked by everyone who is not lazy and only squeal in pursuit of tail-tailing.
  49. +4
    21 July 2016 14: 46
    I did not doubt such a decision of this court. If it is a fact for the court when the expression JACKS is a true crime. ALLOWED-MELDONIUM DOPING, ALLOWED TO DESTROY THE ATHLETES OF THE ATHLETES FOR DOPING, ALLEGED TO BE GUILT IN THIS KGB-FSB EMPLOYEES AND SPORTS FUNCTIONERS. I do not know how RUSSIA will respond to this humiliation of HONOR and DIGNITY, but my opinion should be answered harshly. Namely: to leave these Mokav, WADav, PACE and OSCE, to prohibit the activities of all public organizations of the United States on the territory of RUSSIA, and all other mongrels pouring dirt on RUSSIA. Belarus also sued, also our rowers, wrestlers and weightlifters for allegedly using doping are suspended, apparently the same result will come. So, there is no overt pressure from all sides, including SPORT, on RUSSIA and its supporters. Sorry for the chaotic presentation, it’s just that I can’t boil.
  50. +5
    21 July 2016 14: 54
    what It is necessary to hold your sports day and compare the results with the Olympic ... Athletes who have achieved high performance should be awarded according to Olympic standards ...
  51. 0
    21 July 2016 14: 56
    Trillion dollar lawsuit for moral damages and norms winked
    1. -1
      21 July 2016 17: 54
      Quote: OlegYOla
      Trillion dollar lawsuit for moral damages and norms winked

      For what..? Even in sports they fear us and beat out our competitors! After the game of the “millionaire footballers”, the psychological blow is powerful (except for the fans in Marseille, who beat several thousand brutal English fans..))) Our track and field athletes would have collected a lot of gold in Rio... It’s okay guys, we will still take all the gold in sports.. Soviet school needs to go back!
  52. -1
    21 July 2016 15: 08
    It seems that soon only Americans will compete at the Olympics with their “shobla-yobla” am
  53. -1
    21 July 2016 15: 17
    For some reason, I think that after all these irresponsible actions of sports officials in the USA, Canada, Western Europe, the IOC and ours, excuse me, m..kov, elite sports will NOT face a revolution, or revolutionary changes, as you like! The price of the issue is so high that no one will agree to a global restructuring of the foundations of modern big-time sports and the Olympic movement. But Russian sports and related sports organizations are facing restructuring or liquidation. I would like only one thing, to minimize losses for our wonderful athletes and to prevent their mass departure abroad or the replacement of Russian citizenship with another.
    And we, pot-bellied or lean, soaked in beer or mineral water, fans will still root for ours, even at the Brazilian Olympics, because one way or another we will compare the “achievements” of foreign athletes with the victories and performance of our athletes!
  54. 0
    21 July 2016 15: 31
    Based on the interests of Humanity, this is only a signal. In general, from the interests of Humanity, it is not important whether certain athletes will participate in the Olympic Games, but the fact that hundreds of thousands and millions of individuals, I cannot say representatives of Homo sapiens, have lost the ability to think and are simply being sold to Humanity is a formidable warning. Corruption and bestial behavior are very contagious, especially since this is encouraged by the global financial oligarchy and the governments it has bought. As a measure to destroy an infection for which there is no cure, the method of total destruction has always been used. Therefore, it would be right to destroy, first of all, those involved in unproven accusations, carefully ensuring that those involved in this inevitable process wash their hands. The insignificance of court and other decisions is proven by the fact that athletes are allowed to participate if they renounce Russia as their Motherland, i.e. if you are a traitor, participate, but what does doping have to do with it. By the way, self-respecting athletes from other countries should refuse to participate in such Olympic Games. Honor above all!!!
  55. -1
    21 July 2016 15: 40
    Hold parallel competitions in Russia.

    Those whose results will be higher than in Rio will be PRESENTED with medals.

    The design is a complete analogue of the Olympic ones.

    Only cast bronze from palladium; the silver one is made of gold, and the gold one (which at the Olympic Games is made of silver - that's hilarious!) is made of rhodium. am

    Let the winners of fake games flaunt with fake gold medals (silver is not gold - no matter how vile the pin-dos are); and true winners with real, full-fledged ones.
  56. 0
    21 July 2016 15: 46
    I agree with the author belay This is not the 21st century, but the Middle Ages. Something similar happened in Mongolia in the 13th century, there, too, for one they executed (punished), a dozen. Here's the Law for you, here's "democracy" fool .
  57. +2
    21 July 2016 15: 46
    She fought for the country to the last!
  58. 0
    21 July 2016 15: 50
    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
    and all one she has the best result

    This is what we need instead of Mudko!
  59. 0
    21 July 2016 15: 54
    weakly, weakly, our athletes prove that they are not camels - even though no one paid attention to them; but I need to bow down to the ground and I can lick this place where it stinks, then we could go to this very Rio
  60. 0
    21 July 2016 15: 55
    There are also some contributions from countries. So stop them at the IOC, and all kinds of organizations. In principle, these are huge feeding grounds for our snickering officials. The Anti-Doping Committee should go to hell and boycott Vada.
    Anyway, now football doesn’t even shine.
    We hosted the Spartakiad of the Peoples of the USSR earlier.
    In general, the whole world is going crazy. There are billions of sheep in the free west. Let's see how the year ends. America needs war. She's falling apart.
  61. 0
    21 July 2016 16: 10
    A great opportunity to save budget (people's) money! As the LADIES said: “I demand to reduce budget expenses - there is no money”! Now some money will appear to help the Youth Sports School, our young athletes, our future in Sports! Thank you, foreigners, for helping us save and develop (import substitution) our young talents - PHYSICAL EDUCATION AND SPORTS TO THE MASSES, COMRADES!!! Down with foreign athletes and coaches, let's raise our own champions!
  62. Ren
    0
    21 July 2016 16: 19
    It is necessary to amend the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, the Code of Administrative Offenses of the Russian Federation and other legal acts by adding an article with the following content:
    When committing a crime stipulated by the articles of this code by persons who are not citizens of the Russian Federation, decisions of the court of the Russian Federation shall be enforced against all persons who are on the territory of the Russian Federation and who have the same citizenship with the convicted person.
  63. +4
    21 July 2016 16: 28
    It’s a pity, of course, that Russian representatives will not be present at the Olympic Games in Rio. But the principles of the founder of the Olympic Games, Pierre Coubertin, were violated many decades ago... According to the principle, amateur athletes, not professionals, are recruited into the Olympic teams. And what we see now - the latter in one word: “from every barrel - a plug!” How many stamps did the post office in Russia print on the theme of the Olympic Games in Rio, and into whose pocket did the money “sink”?
    But the future is before us. I propose in the next years to create the so-called. "Crimean Olympic Games" and invite athletes from India, China... Here you have half the world's population. OF OUR world... And on the postage stamps issued on the issue of the Rio Olympics, put a bold overprint “See you soon in Crimea”, the place where ancient Greek colonies existed and where today the principles of Pierre Coubertin are respected...
  64. 0
    21 July 2016 17: 25
    Very sorry. A lot of people got hurt you live a great life(
    1. -1
      21 July 2016 17: 43
      Quote: miru mir
      Very sorry. A lot of people got hurt you live a great life(

      Come on, this is not the first time for us.... It would be better if the “football players” were “doped” like that.. Our athletics have always been at their best, they are removing competitors and, most importantly, they are again trying to humiliate Russia in every way! And I’m even glad, we’ll be angrier.. .You won’t lie, that’s Russia’s slogan today! We’ll break through anyway!
  65. +2
    21 July 2016 17: 55
    The whole country is groaning from impotence!!! Close without trial or investigation all representative offices of Jehovah's Witnesses, Ron Hubard's sects, which take away apartments from the weak in spirit!!! It will bomb all “friends and partners” in Syria!!! Well, you have to answer somehow!!!!!!
  66. 0
    21 July 2016 17: 59
    Why hasn’t Rodchenko slipped 7 times “on a watermelon rind”?! Where was the FSB looking?! Where is he looking now?!
  67. 0
    21 July 2016 18: 07
    I’m not a predictor, but it seems to me that a terrible terrorist attack will occur at the Olympics in Brazil!
    It’s good that our athletes won’t be there! But they will blame Russia for everything again. I think it’s time to show this rotten hemorrhoidal gaming rabble who is who. And don’t make excuses or be a hypocrite in front of them. And so that it doesn’t seem too small and discourages any desire to spoil Russia!
  68. 0
    21 July 2016 18: 24
    and how will our answer to this order?
    You need to write an official letter like: “Russia is holding its Olympic Games following the example set by WADA on its territory. Foreign athletes can only be allowed to participate under the Russian flag.”
  69. 0
    21 July 2016 18: 33
    Quote: Temples
    Yes score on the IOC, WADA, CAS Court, and the like.

    For example, the NHL put a bolt from birth on all these organizations.
    And there is no strain on doping and other nonsense.
    And they relate to the Olympiad by the residual principle.

    Can cabbage soup be banned for athletes soon?
    They will say that it’s better for a Russian person than an Italian for pizza. wassat

    Quote: Temples
    Yes score on the IOC, WADA, CAS Court, and the like.

    For example, the NHL put a bolt from birth on all these organizations.
    And there is no strain on doping and other nonsense.
    And they relate to the Olympiad by the residual principle.

    Can cabbage soup be banned for athletes soon?
    They will say that it’s better for a Russian person than an Italian for pizza. wassat

    Quote: Temples
    Yes score on the IOC, WADA, CAS Court, and the like.

    For example, the NHL put a bolt from birth on all these organizations.
    And there is no strain on doping and other nonsense.
    And they relate to the Olympiad by the residual principle.

    Can cabbage soup be banned for athletes soon?
    They will say that it’s better for a Russian person than an Italian for pizza. wassat

    How can we score?!!! This is an insult, humiliation, etc. etc. The Americans will have purer doping than ours, they are already at the 4th or 5th technical level, and we are only at the second. We need to answer them somehow. Boycott their international organizations or something Also, you can always figure out how.
  70. 0
    21 July 2016 18: 37
    In modern sports, it is not enough to win with results; you need to have your own sports pharmacology and specialists. Remembering the Norwegian biathletes, who are almost all congenital asthmatics, and therefore are forced to take medications that are prohibited to others. The word “doping” no longer carries its main meaning. Under this name they hide means of recovery after inhuman stress. The average person is left with the opinion that it’s like taking a pill and running twice as fast. We wanted to save money, as always, by receiving advice and medications from our sworn partners.
    Joke. For young people and to avoid unfounded texts, I want to say that in the distant past boys also wore tights. Well, a joke.
    Seeing the test results, Vitaly Mutko remembered his mother. Who taught him in kindergarten how to wear tights correctly and said: “Remember, Vitya, two stripes are a big deal.”
  71. 0
    21 July 2016 18: 41
    Quote: СРЦ П-15
    Our president has not yet said his word. I am sure that in his circle (without any mudko or company) painstaking work is going on and I hope we will see the result of this work soon

    What else should the President do? Faith in the almighty king, the master who will come and judge, seems to be unshakable.
    Sports officials are to blame for the failure of the Olympics because they got too greedy and sat too long in their places. The West is putting pressure on them with doping - so give an order for the development of drugs that have not yet been prescribed doping. Help the athletes. Make a film about American, British, or any other athletes who take doping. And there are a bunch of other ways you can use...
  72. 0
    21 July 2016 18: 45
    It looks like the response from our side is:

    “This is politics, my friend”: pranksters revealed WADA’s anti-Russian plan


    http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=2778943
  73. L42
    +1
    21 July 2016 18: 48
    There is dirt on every asshole, you just have to look for it. Let the special services take care of it. Two or three scandals and the rest will be afraid to contact us. We must answer harshly and painfully. Which country’s federation is putting pressure on us? Is everything clean with them? What if you dig deeper? Do you want a scandal?
  74. 0
    21 July 2016 20: 37
    This is the first time such a bad thing, it is impossible to imagine such a thing during the USSR, as if one country (the USA) had crushed doping control under itself. Their USADA was paralyzed for me as a boxer when, in retrospect, Mayweather was allowed to inject 600 ml of something cold before the fight with Pacquiao. And USADA and WADA are birds of a feather.
    In the USSR, probably all sports officials would, of course, be thrown to the wall after something like this...
  75. +2
    21 July 2016 20: 46
    I feel sorry for our athletes to the point of tears and gnashing of teeth! Well, the “partners” are already engaged in lawlessness! This is another blow below the belt! I would like our smart and bright minds to answer them with something adequate! How long will the Mattresses and their sixes mock us!
    I believe that the day will come when “our tears will flow to them”!
    A huge “hello” to Judas-Rodchenko, what the hell, you became a pawn in someone else’s game, thanks to you, many people are now very upset, I hope you received your thirty pieces of silver? Just look at the Bible, the fate of the traitor Judas turned out to be very unenviable!
  76. +1
    21 July 2016 21: 37
    If the Russians are not in Rio, then there will be no TV broadcast. Run alternative games. Compare and publish the results.
  77. +1
    21 July 2016 21: 39
    Sports Arbitration Court does not allow our athletes to the Olympics in Rio

    Well, thank God
  78. +1
    21 July 2016 22: 21
    Quote: yuriy55
    what It is necessary to hold your sports day and compare the results with the Olympic ... Athletes who have achieved high performance should be awarded according to Olympic standards ...


    These are the consequences of a unipolar world. If there was an Eastern bloc plus Africa and Latin America, like in 1980, then they would put it on the wad with the device. Fortunately, half the planet was in our sphere of influence.
    Now how to answer? We have no influence. Shouldn't you compete with yourself?
    1. 0
      22 July 2016 03: 16
      Then, by the way, there was also a sports principle. I don’t remember now what kind of competition it was, but in 5 it was definitely in Seoul. There were 2 judges. 3 were from the “Soviet bloc” and they gave the victory to the American, and 34 to his opponent. For a bribe (as it turned out). These are the things. But now the truth is that we don’t have a “fist” in the form of about 90 IOC members out of 1952-odd like then. And even the coolest sports powers - the USSR, the GDR, Bulgaria, Cuba, etc. d.Ideally, now China should say, let's go too....with your Olympics. But This is not 0000000. When Stalin and Mao Zedong. All pragmatists. What will we offer in return Games with the participation of the DPR, LPR, PMR, South Ossetia, Abkhazia and...Syria. No one will be impressed. Unfortunately. We must look for answers in the military-political sphere. Where are Canada, Great Britain and Switzerland -XNUMX- in comparison with Russia. And you're the pricks there.
  79. +1
    21 July 2016 23: 08
    Meanness, bestiality and fear of Russia!!! These are the principles of American democracy. Faggot democracy.
  80. +2
    21 July 2016 23: 17
    Sorry for the confusion, but I have a lot of questions: where did the officials responsible for sports look when they hired someone who was mentally unstable (according to the media) to the position of head of our anti-doping agency? His sister was brought to justice for distribution, no one noticed his participation!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Have you noticed who defended our athletes in court? Representative of an English company, why?! What do the lawyers of our Olympic Committee get paid for? (don't talk about international practice). For the kind of loot that they get, you can study both Roman and international law in one night and..... These are relatives, friends, etc., sitting and grabbing easy money. That’s why we are toothless in international courts. Although there are pros, I think relatives are more expensive!!!!
  81. 0
    21 July 2016 23: 21
    What kind of bestiality? At least stop building unnecessary stadiums. After all, even a child can understand that they will not allow Russia to host the World Cup.
  82. 0
    22 July 2016 02: 54
    recognize the DPR, LPR and hold a referendum there and in South Ossetia and Abkhazia on joining the Russian Federation, intensify the bombing of barmalei in Syria, including American barmalei, close the sky to NATO, use prohibited ammunition during bombing. Force the Turks not to allow American ships into the World Cup. That's all
    1. 0
      22 July 2016 03: 23
      I agree 100 percent. Also, Transnistria is there too. And plus bases in Cuba and Vietnam right away. And the sale/supply of weapons to all countries under sanctions will not be worse. Let’s turn off the gas and give it to China.
    2. 0
      22 July 2016 03: 54
      Quote: aiden
      recognize the DPR, LPR and hold a referendum there and in South Ossetia and Abkhazia on joining the Russian Federation, intensify the bombing of barmalei in Syria, including American barmalei, close the sky to NATO, use prohibited ammunition during bombing. Force the Turks not to allow American ships into the World Cup. That's all


      I forgot one more point, buy tickets to North Korea to gain experience from partners
  83. +1
    22 July 2016 03: 46
    Do we have pride or not? Here is an Iranian who, as a sign of solidarity with the people of Palestine, refused to fight an Israeli - by the way, not even in the fight for a medal. Although he would probably have won. - Iranian. - Since the world champion is the current one (I won’t look at the statistics, but the essence is clear) and the opponent is no one. In the homeland, they awarded a prize as an Olympic champion (if not more) and made them a national hero. So that’s what I’m saying - even if they don’t let us in, let them give all our “Rio Olympians” a lifetime worthy content. Plus bonuses for those who claimed medals, even hypothetically. Enough money. Plus Mutko and others like him to disperse. The war has begun in earnest. Because our athletes spend their lives and health on sports. Money and patriotism are equal for the majority in Olympic sports - you have to support your family. OI - once every 1 years. And the Anthem and the flag are a big plus for the appreciation of your work, which the whole world sees. And these moments will remain forever. They are (fencers, shooters, handball players, gymnasts, wrestlers. ..)not footballers or hockey players from the NHL. They can’t earn that kind of salary just by jumping into the water or winning the European Championship.) So let’s love, pamper and cherish our athletes like this. Even with money, if the officials don’t honor them they can intervene. By the way, they would not be able to. There are no levers. It’s just like slamming the door. This does not justify them. But I believe that if we had Stalin, he would have found something to say. Now I’m waiting for Lavrov and Putin. Their answers.

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