Media: Erdogan saved the information received from the Russian military

Russia warned President Erdogan about the imminent military coup a few hours before it began, the Iranian agency reports Fars with reference to diplomatic sources in Turkey.

Sources said that "the Russian army intercepted the coded radiograms of the rebels, showing that the Turkish army is preparing to stage a coup."

According to them, in particular, "these signals contained information about sending several helicopters to the hotel where President Erdogan was located, which they intended to arrest or kill."

Diplomats do not know what kind of station intercepted information from the rebels, but we all know that the Russian intelligence unit is deployed on the Hamim base in Syria.

Recall, on Tuesday, Erdogan said that if he had stayed in the hotel (in the city of Marmaris) for 10-15 minutes, he would have been in the hands of the putschists.

Comments

[RuslanNN]

Our specialists work. And successfully.

[Lyton]

Yeah, good ones, but they could have kept silent.

[hirurg]

Of the two evils, the lesser is chosen. Better Erdogan than another chaos under US control.

[hirurg]

And so, now Erdogan is indebted to us. Behind him, Magarych in the form of ... well, they even know without us ... Moreover, that's why Erdogan is now diving under the wing of Russia.

[Ami du peuple]

Quote: hirurg

And so, now Erdogan is indebted to us.

Something I didn’t understand, to whom he owed

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said that he learned about the coup attempt in the country by chance and did not immediately believe the seriousness of such information.
“Of course, we later received confirmation, but initially, in fact, my son-in-law told me. When I heard about this for the first time, I did not think about it seriously, ”Erdogan quotes NewsRbk.ru as saying.

Or Putin, son-in-law of Erdogan ?!
In short, this news looks like a fake.

[BilliBoms09]

Sources said that "the Russian army intercepted the coded radio messages of the rebels, indicating that the Turkish army is preparing to stage a coup"

Our special services began to work smarter and finer! If this news is certainly true! Erdogan leads Turkey to collapse: -cleaning the army, fighting the Kurds, cooling relations with the EU and the USA, so much so that statements are already being made about the suspension of Turkey’s membership in NATO !!! So, maybe this is the multi-way exploration of our intelligence.

[roadsmell]

Although I do not support any contacts between our Defense Ministry and the Janissaries, I note with satisfaction the work of the GRU .. Respect!

Well, Mishiko, as usual, once again managed it - he just announced that the organizer of the coup was the Great Darkest

[Rus2012]

Quote: Ami du peuple

Recep Tayyip Erdogan said that he learned about the coup attempt in the country by accident and did not immediately believe the seriousness of such information.

... uv.colleagues, you need to learn how to separate the grain from the chaff ... and, because of the verbal husk, extract carats of valuable information. And also to distinguish what is for "internal use" and what is for outside ...
Idelists what else, even knightly tournaments with codes of honor demanded!

It is not beneficial for Erdogan to dump all the ins and outs of the coup before his people. With the GDP they have already rubbed everything between themselves, and we do not, as they say, "fit into someone else's caftan" -

Turkey is important for Russia - this is an axiom. Our relations are already five hundred years old, and already several centuries as we became neighbors - with all the wars, cooperation, quarrels and trade resulting from this.
...
Turkey, ideal for Russia, is a country that does not belong to NATO, but to the Eurasian Union. Well, or at least is a reliable partner and strategic ally of Russia. And these are not empty hopes, but a completely possible scenario for the future, which can and should work both in Moscow and Ankara. Not a near future, but not so distant. In the next 10 years, the situation on the big geopolitical board will change dramatically - and such important centers of power as Turkey will be forced to finally decide on their place in the big game.
They will have to make a historic choice in the direction of movement being transformed world, to choose allies and opponents to choose between preserving their own civilization and the transformation into an object for manipulation globalization strategy. If Turkey wants to maintain and strengthen its self-sufficiency, the Russian support in this she assured.
Peter Akopov, Glance

Our relations with the Turks are multifaceted, the prospects can be the most excellent and mutually beneficial.
We are building BRIDGES, and some would like to build only Fences ...

But, at the same time, you need to remember the past in the people's memory -
1. Turks, a nation of small mind (Slavic proverb)
2. Dumb as a Turk. (Ukrainian proverb)
3. If you want the Turk to obey you, hit him with a stick. (Armenian proverb)
4. If a Turk speaks of peace, then there will be war. (Greek saying)
5. Where the foot of the Turk stepped, the grass does not grow. (Bulgarian proverb)
6. The devil has many guises, the most important of which is Turkic. (Assyrian saying)
7. The rooster will not lay eggs, and the Turks will not become a man. (Romanian proverb)
8. Bad life, that neighborhood with the Turk. (Kurdish proverb)
9. People are building, the Turks are being destroyed. (Serbian saying).

[SRC P-15]

But I just thought: was it not our electronic warfare systems that jammed Erdogan's escort aircraft, and therefore the planes of the rioters? That is why they most likely could not destroy Erdogan's plane - there was no connection, and not one of the pilots wanted or was afraid to take on this "mission". If so, it turns out that we not only warned the Turkish president about the coup, but also saved his life.

[Rus2012]

Quote: СРЦ П-15

Did our electronic warfare systems jam Erdogan's escort planes, and hence the planes of the rioters? That is why they most likely could not destroy Erdogan's plane - there was no connection, and not one of the pilots wanted or was afraid to take on this "mission".

... and if everything was easier?
For example, the rebels did not know what, whom and where to shoot down?
They say Erdogan flew on a private Jet. And for a long time he was not in the airspace of Turkey.
Those who knew - Israel, Russia - there was no benefit to disclose ...

[HERMES]

Quote: RuslanNN

Our specialists work. And successfully.

[nadezhiva]

Quote: Rus2012

But, at the same time, you need to remember the past in the people's memory -
1. Turks, a nation of small mind (Slavic proverb)
2. Dumb as a Turk. (Ukrainian proverb)
3. If you want the Turk to obey you, hit him with a stick. (Armenian proverb)
4. If a Turk speaks of peace, then there will be war. (Greek saying)
5. Where the foot of the Turk stepped, the grass does not grow. (Bulgarian proverb)
6. The devil has many guises, the most important of which is Turkic. (Assyrian saying)
7. The rooster will not lay eggs, and the Turks will not become a man. (Romanian proverb)
8. Bad life, that neighborhood with the Turk. (Kurdish proverb)
9. People are building, the Turks are being destroyed. (Serbian saying).

You are very funny wrong. Do you really think that Russians are well treated in the world ??? What didn’t they make such rubbish about us? Well .... Catch. They hate us, be healthy.

Fear the Russian forest of fire: the fire will extinguish the water, and the Russian will strangle you.
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If he gave a Russian, then you will have to owe him a century.
Russian - that coal: it will not burn, so it will get dirty.
Russian in business, like a leech on the body.
Russian feasts on weekdays, and Russian grieves on holiday.
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Do not flatter yourself.

[Rus2012]

Quote: nadezhiva

Do not flatter yourself.

... what did you lead to?

This does not apply to this topic.
In this case, we are only talking about the Turks. And how to work with them in the future.

And the fact that we are loved / not loved is the topic of a separate conversation ...

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: nadezhiva

Do not flatter yourself.

I do not believe)))
In part of the sayings about Turks quoted by Rus2012, their country of origin is also indicated.
And the list you provided is faceless and rootless, and could be reordered to order by the same historians and philologists who wrote the new Ukrainian history, or other creators for replication in the national republics of Russia.
Universal sayings. Substitute any nationality in them, even a Tatar, even a Georgian, and it will be the same, but with a different erysipelas.
It is very beneficial for someone to put Russians in such a negative light, from "sayings" to the scandal with meldonium and the threat to all mankind, since there is a global persecution of all Russian, and you, madam, willingly or not, are participating in this.

[nadezhiva]

Quote: Nyrobsky

I do not believe)))

Pffffff. This collection is about 5 years old, if my memory serves. Looking for country of origin? I just do not flatter myself. I clearly know where they hate us. To cramps, to trembling. And I simply respond with contempt to those addresses. If I do not like it, what is the point of portraying that this is not? This is, unfortunately.

[Drzed]

but would you go to ... censor

[igor67]

Quote: Rus2012

Quote: Ami du peuple

Recep Tayyip Erdogan said that he learned about the coup attempt in the country by accident and did not immediately believe the seriousness of such information.

... uv.colleagues, you need to learn how to separate the grain from the chaff ... and, because of the verbal husk, extract carats of valuable information. And also to distinguish what is for "internal use" and what is for outside ...
Idelists what else, even knightly tournaments with codes of honor demanded!

It is not beneficial for Erdogan to dump all the ins and outs of the coup before his people. With the GDP they have already rubbed everything between themselves, and we do not, as they say, "fit into someone else's caftan" -

Turkey is important for Russia - this is an axiom. Our relations are already five hundred years old, and already several centuries as we became neighbors - with all the wars, cooperation, quarrels and trade resulting from this.
...
Turkey, ideal for Russia, is a country that does not belong to NATO, but to the Eurasian Union. Well, or at least is a reliable partner and strategic ally of Russia. And these are not empty hopes, but a completely possible scenario for the future, which can and should work both in Moscow and Ankara. Not a near future, but not so distant. In the next 10 years, the situation on the big geopolitical board will change dramatically - and such important centers of power as Turkey will be forced to finally decide on their place in the big game.
They will have to make a historic choice in the direction of movement being transformed world, to choose allies and opponents to choose between preserving their own civilization and the transformation into an object for manipulation globalization strategy. If Turkey wants to maintain and strengthen its self-sufficiency, the Russian support in this she assured.
Peter Akopov, Glance

Our relations with the Turks are multifaceted, the prospects can be the most excellent and mutually beneficial.
We are building BRIDGES, and some would like to build only Fences ...

But, at the same time, you need to remember the past in the people's memory -
1. Turks, a nation of small mind (Slavic proverb)
2. Dumb as a Turk. (Ukrainian proverb)
3. If you want the Turk to obey you, hit him with a stick. (Armenian proverb)
4. If a Turk speaks of peace, then there will be war. (Greek saying)
5. Where the foot of the Turk stepped, the grass does not grow. (Bulgarian proverb)
6. The devil has many guises, the most important of which is Turkic. (Assyrian saying)
7. The rooster will not lay eggs, and the Turks will not become a man. (Romanian proverb)
8. Bad life, that neighborhood with the Turk. (Kurdish proverb)
9. People are building, the Turks are being destroyed. (Serbian saying).

And yet: the Turk of the king of heaven (when scolded)

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Ami du peuple

Or Putin, son-in-law of Erdogan ?!
In short, this news looks like a fake.

It's just that he was smart enough not to open the main source, so a "well-versed son-in-law" was born as the official version for the same mattresses.
Interesting events unfold ...
In the meantime, Erdogan’s meeting with GDP in Sochi is scheduled for August 9 — now we’ll observe for two weeks the mattresses from which a series of next concerns will interspersed with threats to Erdogan.

[Evgeny RS]

It turns out that Erdogan’s son-in-law was closely connected with the putschists)), since he knew

[Vadim237]

Something tells us that this friendship will not be long, it is not worth doing business with scoundrels.

[PDM80]

Yes, what a duty, what a friendship !!! Erdogan himself muddied all this to strengthen his power and remove unwanted that's all! And this is a journalistic duck. which our military has not officially confirmed. And even if it were true, then a few hours this time is not worth it, because such reports require verification

[Corsair]

Quote: PDM80

And even if it were true, then a few hours this time is not worth it, because such reports require verification

The most important thing is that even if they knew and warned, they would not tell this information now, then in a few years it is possible. They don't make PR out of such help - it's a kind of get-together that plays out on the sidelines, otherwise it sounds to the whole world like "you owe me a favor."

[Lukich]

Quote: PDM80

which our military has not officially confirmed.

such things do not officially confirm or refute

[Scandinavian]

I would like to hear the expert opinion of the majority .... Jemal insists that the Kremlin also watched the coup in Turkey. Do not put cons, we have a discourse ...

[Lukich]

Quote: hirurg

Of the two evils, the lesser is chosen. Better Erdogan than another chaos under US control.

Yes, here I think, if this happens with a bucket, will it help? and Sasha’s friend will put someone worse. although much worse ....

[BARKAS]

Quote: hirurg

Of the two evils, the lesser is chosen. Better Erdogan than another chaos under US control.

There is no doubt even here. Americans probably also knew everything even before ours, but did not warn Erdogash! So you have to fly to Russia to meet with Putin.

[Stas157]

Quote: hirurg

Of the two evils, the lesser is chosen. Better Erdogan than another chaos under US control.

And, Erdogan, do you consider an independent figure? Not under US control?
Yes, and judging by your logic, you can shoot down Russian planes, because Erdogan is not under US control? In any case, will Russia be friends because it chooses lesser evil?
I think there is a choice between Islamist igilovskoy Turkey in the person of Erdogan and between secular, Ataturk Turkey. The second is more interesting to us.

[Rus2012]

Quote: Stas157

secular, Ataturk Turkey. The second is more interesting to us.

... huh? :))))
When was she secular independent? The correct answer is in the time of Lenin.
And after it became - NATO, pro-American ...
And now, let it be pro-Russian. And it is not important whether Islamic or not. We live with Muslims and live ...

[Rus2012]

Quote: hirurg

Better Erdogan than another chaos under US control.

... not even so, but so - "a pro-American junta headed by NATO black generals and colonels." It was even worse than the present ruin ...

[Stas157]

Quote: Rus2012

"a pro-American junta led by NATO black generals and colonels." It was even worse than the present ruin ...

Why didn’t the USA help the organization of the coup to its people, pro-Americans?
The fact that someone from the military there studied in America does not mean that another Turkey would be more pro-American than the current one. Turkey, which was still pro-American, will remain in the foreseeable future, under any regime.
Why it would be worse for us than the events in Ukraine is also not clear.

As I understand it, all this time, they are making wise attempts to justify Putin’s strange act, which, instead of knocking out a chair from under Erdogan, pulled him out of the loop in a friendly manner.
Hoping for Erdogan Turk that he will become manual will be ridiculous. He will hit in the back again on occasion.

[Rus2012]

Quote: Stas157

Someone from the military studied in America

even as it means!
Let's look at the ruin. At least few people studied in America, but already what was there was enough! Or do you believe in the ideality of a democratic USA?

Quote: Stas157

As I understand it, all this time, they are making wise attempts to justify Putin’s strange act, which, instead of knocking out a chair from under Erdogan, pulled him out of the loop in a friendly manner.

On yours - "all wet"?
But in life it turns out: "the one who replaces comes - worse than the previous one" ... This is exactly the case.

[lelikas]

Quote: hirurg

Of the two evils, the lesser is chosen. Better Erdogan than another chaos under US control.

I understand it with my mind, but I would still be silent. Purely, to see if he would get out or not. For me, that would be the best apology.

[Rus2012]

Quote: lelikas

best apology

"best apology"? As a second ruin on the border?

I'm surprised at some - the country almost took a strong tilt towards the 3,14ndosniks - "secular, ataturk", it becomes in its pure form a military junta, and another anti-Russian one as a ruin, in all directions - and to our UrApEtriots - that "God's Ross". ..; ((((
You see, Erdogan is not their name.

And the latter repented of all sins and is ready to improve in practice.

PS: you need to be able to work with everyone, especially those who have realized the guilt and have obeyed ...

[vovanpain]

Quote: Lyton

Yeah, good ones, but they could have kept silent.

Well, what then? Another chaos with bloodshed near our borders? Joy of a mattress? But their kick in the ass. Erdoанan is certainly a scoundrel, but in the East you have to answer for the service, so Erdogash should now not only for SU-24, and so the mattresses are not shy about such a recruitment method by the way. My opinion is that they did the right thing that warned. IMHO.

[Alexey-74]

... yes, it’s not nice (I'm talking about Erdogash) to save the skin of this bastard, but the East is a delicate matter ....

[Yuyuka]

Quote: Lyton
Yeah, good ones, but they could have kept silent.

Well, what then? Another chaos with bloodshed near our borders? Joy of a mattress? But their kick in the ass. Erdoанan is certainly a scoundrel, but in the East you have to answer for the service, so Erdogash should now not only for SU-24, and so the mattresses are not shy about such a recruitment method by the way. My opinion is that they did the right thing that warned. IMHO.

I agree, any change of power in the East, and not only that, leads to dismantling and chaos ... Iraq, Libya ... do we need it ?? especially for his people, he is not an indisputable tyrant and if there was a coup, it is not a fact that they would start fraternizing with us! rather the opposite ... pragmatically a very correct decision, but about what he should, it is better to forget, "do good deeds and throw it into the water" (c)

[V.ic]

Quote: vovanpain

My opinion, they did the right thing that they warned. IMHO.

So what, they fumbled with the "Sultan". And how at one time our babysit with Enver Pasha ...

[Max repp]

Yeah. Ruins on our side are not enough for us, so let them stir up them from the south. Well, let him better sultancheg sits in its place.

[zennon]

Quote: Lyton

Yeah, good ones, but they could have kept silent.

Do not use rumors:

As Putin’s spokesman Dmitry Peskov noted, nothing is known in the Kremlin about the alleged Russian attempts to warn the Turkish leadership of the impending putsch.

[milann]

It is difficult to unambiguously evaluate. This is good or bad: after all, it was claimed that it was Turkey Erdogan who traded oil with ISIS that brought militants weary of battles into the form.

[Mahmut]

It is difficult to unambiguously evaluate. This is good or bad: after all, it was claimed that it was Turkey Erdogan who traded oil with ISIS that brought militants weary of battles into the form.

But Turkey, the non-Erdogan, shot down the Su-24 and then misinformed Erdogan that the plane violated the Turkish border and did not respond to warnings ten times. Judging by the emotional reaction of Erdogan, he sincerely believed in this, and therefore could not be the initiator of the provocation.

[olegfbi]

Russia warned President Erdogan of imminent military coup

What for?

[lysyj bob]

Quote: olegfbi

What for?

He has real power in the country, and after the purges it will only strengthen, and now he is our debtor. What or by whom he will pay, one can only guess. But you have to pay. It’s easier for our people to build relationships with him, well-studied, than with new people who need to be studied, re-build a line of behavior, negotiate and all that.

[alexmach]

That may just be stuffing.

[Yura]

Quote: olegfbi

What for?

Then what coups, putsch is wrong. Russia has always proclaimed that legal elections are the right of peoples to elect their leaders (I agree that this is not always a good choice and it is not always in the interests of our country), otherwise the world will plunge into chaos. And look what happens, Assad was saved, Yanukovych was saved, now Erdogan, the world sees this, he only needs to understand that the rules are the same for everyone and everyone is safer from this. Russia was not ready to help Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya, but you cannot return the past. Yes, it’s also not easy for us, but all this and the defense of our right to choose our leaders and live as we want. And I want to say that if such a thing happened in some other country, even in the USA, Putin would have done the same, he is the person who is our face. Sinking to the little things, we will all be below the baseboard for everyone.

[Max repp]

Then what is enough for us and fools at our side.

[Pavel1]

Well, why save this hidden enemy, ready to stab in the back?

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Paul1

Well, why save this hidden enemy, ready to stab in the back?

Yes, crap is all ordinary feik.

[Pavel1]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Yes, crap is all ordinary feik.

Alexander, well, if this news is fake, then why post it on fuel?

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Paul1

Alexander, well, if this news is fake, then why post it on fuel?

Everything is for you They posted the news that went on the network and no more.

[Dazdranagon]

Quote: Paul1

Alexander, well, if this news is fake, then why post it on fuel?

- But what, before that, there were no fakes laid out? Too lazy to look, but the topwar came across unreliable news ...

[chikenous59]

Quote: Lyton

Yeah, good ones, but they could have kept silent.

If you didn’t keep silent, then it was necessary.
There was information that if Erdogan was overthrown, relations with Turkey will become even more tense.
Or do you think intelligence does not have enough information?

[LastLap]

Better known enemy, incomprehensible nedrug

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: RuslanNN

Our specialists work. And successfully.

Do you believe everything that is written in the media?

[Galleon]

Someone minus this question of Alexander. It is interesting, if they say that intelligence is the ability to doubt, then what wonderful "critical" consciousness and "concern for one's neighbor" this minus possesses. I am not saying that "everyone has their own truth, and the truth does not exist." Truth exists, and truth is one. But a person should also have the right to doubt.

[AlexTires]

I dare to suggest that just taking and telling you that you are eavesdropping on the foreign military at their home is not the most witty action. Moreover, Turkey is a member of NATO ....

[chikenous59]

Quote: AlexTires

I dare to suggest that just taking and telling you that you are eavesdropping on the foreign military at their home is not the most witty action. Moreover, Turkey is a member of NATO ....

Do you think everyone is so naive?
Everyone has long known everything, just like that dip. representation in a foreign country = intelligence branch. In all countries so.

[Lord of the Sith]

In general, apparently, the Americans started a coup, and ours decided to get an ally and warned. Now Turkey itself is already threatening to leave NATO, and Erdogan is flying to Moscow, and not to Washington or Brussels. Washington does not extradite an oppositionist, and Europe did not give asylum to Erdogan during the coup. Russia provided all the data. They are appreciated in the east. I won’t be surprised if the President’s plane is over the Black Sea.

PS I would certainly not do business with Erdogan, but I am not the president of Russia. Now Putin will use Turkey as a Trojan horse. And it is not yet known what data Erdogan is carrying with him. Maybe NATO Air Force codes are "friend or foe". Or a couple of ISIS leaders. And maybe some other data in order to enlist the support of Russia.

[chikenous59]

Quote: Sith Lord

I won’t be surprised if the President’s plane is over the Black Sea.

I won’t be surprised if it will be covered by our air defense

[Vend]

Quote: RuslanNN

Our specialists work. And successfully.

Yes, ours can. This they have repeatedly proved.

[Dimontius]

If this is true, then I simply refuse to put forward any assumptions about the policy of the Russian Federation in the future. Such scanwords can not be grasped by anyone. To be honest, I really want to believe in it, because the option immediately begs in addition to the collapse of the EU because of Britain, and the collapse of NATO because of Turkey. well .. pray!

[Kite]

Quote: RuslanNN

Our specialists work. And successfully.

- the article is about the work of "specialists" from the media, referring to someone. Another stuffing. There is no point in discussing.

[parusnik]

As there is a phrase from the movie "One among strangers, a stranger among friends" .. I wanted to kill you .. You save me .. You are my brother ...

[Yuyuka]

As there is a phrase from the movie "One among strangers, a stranger among friends" .. I wanted to kill you .. You save me .. You are my brother ...

After the "fraternization" in August, in Moscow we will see how to "want" to thank the savior ... At the same time, it will be clear whether this is a fake or not. Although such things may not be fully clarified at all, it will be seen only by indirect indications what the "coup" gave. We are waiting ...

[Riv]

What is that? And did Putin reach out there?

[Lukich]

Quote: Riv

What is that? And did Putin reach out there?

and he is everywhere

[kolyhalovs]

And if so, then what is the use of Russia from this? The question torments me: why? I doubt it.

[Herman]

You can agree with Erdogan, with the junta who came to power for American grandmothers, it is unlikely.

[Leto]

Quote: Herman

Erdogan can be negotiated

What can be negotiated with an Islamist?

[Herman]

He is a trader, but only when an Islamist is needed.
And you can always negotiate with the trader or take him by the balls.

[kolyhalovs]

Well, Erdogan is still the hell to negotiate with him. Sewed on soap. You might think Erdogan is not under US control. These are their internal graters and what Erdogan could be better for us than these failed coups, I do not understand.

[Good_Taxist]

This is a bomb! Erdogan, of course, the nits are still the same, but what is the alignment now ???? I'm just afraid to even imagine !!! Yesterday I read Starikov’s analytics on this subject - well, I think a tired man .... but no !!!

[donavi49]

Tactical alignment - part of the Air Force is destroyed (the planes are not the main thing, but l / c is tapping), up to a third of the army is put in a sky-ready state, with a navy of incomprehensibility.

Almost all of the generals are knocking out, with the exception of one army — which immediately supported Erdogan and moved troops to Istanbul. They are now sent with a promotion - the same commander of the 1st army, now the Turkish National High School. The commanders of all bases of the Air Force, on the bases supporting the putsch - the arrests of officers and pilots. Thousands of officers of all military branches, of various levels, have been arrested, and thousands have been removed.

A wedge from the USA is hammered - if the US opposition gives out, then this is a precedent and will greatly tarnish the reputation of the United States, if it does not, then there will be no war, but they will really hide from Ijilik.

Problems with the EU - which are already openly condemning Erdogan, and the lips of the European Commissioner say that the putsch is not an excuse for such repressions and if this does not stop, the EU will send Turkey (all integration processes have already stopped).

What's next? No one knows. Erdogan can make any move, even absolutely stupid and suicidal. But the failure of the putsch was obviously more of a problem for the world community than its success with the assassination of Erdogan.

[Berber]

Given the eastern mentality, Erdogan realizes that he really should.

[Leto]

Quote: BerBer

Given the eastern mentality, Erdogan realizes that he really should.

The service already provided costs nothing ...

[captain]

Now Erdogan is not up to Syria and Iraq. And he, I think, will leave the Kurds alone or, rather, he won’t pull very much. We have direct benefits from this, now let the states wrinkle their foreheads and strain their brains about Turkey and its bases in Turkey. Erdogan certainly will not drive them out, but freedom of action will cut them off. The dessert served in time leaves its impression of the meal. Well done, our scouts, if true.

[Leto]

Quote: captain

And I think he will leave Kurds alone

Schaz ...

20.07.2016/XNUMX/XNUMX The Turkish Air Force attacked the north of Iraq. According to the Turkish military, their goal was the bases, positions and training camps of the militants of the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK)

[Yuyuka]

Quote: BerBer
Given the eastern mentality, Erdogan realizes that he really should.

The service already provided costs nothing ...

must-should not-he just has no choice aerobatics - like in chess - the opponent makes only the only possible moves with the hope of at least a draw! It is necessary to turn it this way, using the most microscopic opportunity - now Russia is practically the only country saving Erdogan and Turkey from chaos!

[Anatole Klim]

Quote: BerBer

Erdogan realizes that he really has to

MUST !!!

[kolyhalovs]

I thought about it, but something tells me that at this level this rule does not work. If necessary, he will forget about this duty without hesitation. I wrote the same letter. The need was for tourists to return. Given the eastern mentality, this letter was incredible.

[Smoked]

Our brainwashing specialists work beautifully, they take full advantage of the situation to normalize relations between Russia and Turkey after all. Tayipych campaign will soon be a partner in the GDP, and not a sponsor of the Ishilovites.

[mikh-korsakov]

I am sure this is the case. Erdogan may even ask for an ally. And schoolchildren will solve problems like "Vova put three governors, and Erdogan has two more governors. How many governors did Vova and Erdogan put together?"

[ser-pov]

If this is the way they write, let's see how the "sultan" will thank Russia ... Although the proverb - "Do not do good - you will not get evil"nobody canceled ...

[Altona]

Yanukovych saved, Erdogan saved. But Gaddafi and Hussein did not save.

[kolyhalovs]

This is such a competition. The USA is wet, Russia is saving.

[AID.S]

So far, this is information from the OBS agency ...

[Disorder]

Tales are from Erdogan. Ours will not disclose that they uncovered the NATO encodings.

[dsm100]

Miracles and only ... Maybe it could be.

[Private27]

Well, it’s fine. He’s knocking down our plane, and we are warning him of a coup. You won’t say anything good.

[chikenous59]

Quote: Private27

Well, it’s fine. He’s knocking down our plane, and we are warning him of a coup. You won’t say anything good.

And the option that he did not give the order to shoot down the plane, and the military themselves decided to arrange such a trick (perhaps with someone’s clue), do not you consider?

[79807420129]

Quote: chikenous59

And such an option that he did not give the order to bring down the plane, and the military themselves decided to arrange such a trick

Colleague, what kind of army is this among the Turks I’m not talking about the putsch, but about our downed plane. After all, the army knocks down a plane of another state on foreign territory, and the Supreme Commander-in-chief neither ear nor snout, I am not me and not my hut, so this is not an army, but a gang of watering can then a bunch of bash-bazouks.

[Shamsik]

Better Erdogan with a sense of guilt in front of us and gratitude for the salvation than another "democracy" with terrorist attacks.

[Hunt]

Well, where is the gratitude of Erdogan? Maybe I missed something? He kills our people, regrets, and we save his life. Well, is it worth it to scold our tourists who budget want to relax with their families?

[Good_Taxist]

And this is so ...
To make it clearer !!!

[AlexTires]

In international politics there are no permanent friends or enemies. There are permanent state interests of the state and the means to achieve them. Everything else is lyrics ... But if you really warned, then all the insanity to save the anti-people regime of Erdorgan says that the foreign policy of the Russian Federation has lost its guiding lines and extreme throwing, because Russia helped Islamize Turkey, and quite possibly, very radically. At the same time, she once again bowed to those who showed aggression against her.

[Yuyuka]

In international politics there are no permanent friends or enemies. There are permanent state interests of the state and the means to achieve them. Everything else is lyrics ... But if you really warned, then all the insanity to save the anti-people regime of Erdorgan says that the foreign policy of the Russian Federation has lost its guiding lines and extreme throwing, because Russia helped Islamize Turkey, and quite possibly, very radically. At the same time, she once again bowed to those who showed aggression against her.

in this case, this is aerobatics - to use the "enemy" for your own purposes, you just need to skillfully weigh the "pros" and "cons" of the consequences of one or another decision ... here there are an order of magnitude more "pros"! "Divide and rule!" (C) In the case of the "coup" we have a "sneaky stab in the back" from the United States to Erdogan, in his opinion, condemnation from Europe for introducing an emergency! Offended Erdogan will be closer to Russia, because Russia has made it clear that it keeps its word and if he enlists support, even moral, then the GDP will not throw him.

[Million]

Let's see what happens.

[alexej123]

As V.Nikolai used to say, "There is no waste in exploration, there are only reserves." The same can be applied to politics, especially geopolitics. No matter how earlier Erdogan was a "waste", he turned out to be a "reserve" at the right moment. What we are seeing now. Plus, it should be borne in mind that Erdogan is supported by at least half of Turkey's residents, which is about 40 million citizens. Here is the leadership of the Russian Federation and made a decision (if this is true).

[demotivator]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Yes, crap is all ordinary feik.

So otozh! Our media, before the coup, unanimously and diligently portrayed Erdogan as an enemy and a criminal (and this is generally not far from the truth), and then it suddenly dawned on the military, and they decided to save him.
Where does this information come from? The Regnum agency of the former head of the Russian presidential administration for interregional and cultural relations, Modest Kolerov (kicked out of office after he brought a gang of petty crooks to observe the referendum in Transnistria instead of deputies of the European Parliament and was caught in this by the media) refers to anonymous Arab sources. Here it is, this "message" http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13950430001452
Other sources, such as RosBusinessConsulting, cite the Iranian agency farsnews.com, which in turn refers to the same unnamed Arab media. At the same time, farsnews.com is known in Iran as a recognized distributor of fakes. He has already been caught lying about the arrest of the Swiss ambassador to Tehran, the attempt on the life of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the ban on ex-President Mohammad Khatami from leaving the country, and much more.
This wiring is, moreover, cheap.

[Mountain shooter]

It is very likely that it was the GDP that saved Erdogan, since the Turkish intelligence either turned out to be "in the share", or someone to whom it reported the information "kept". And when our specialists reported to the GDP that nothing was happening, and the time "H" was already here, Putin picked up the phone and said something like - If right now, in what you have, you don't start to quickly wash away, they'll finish it right in your bed ... Because no one else with such promptness could contact.
Therefore, the plane on which he was waving was not a presidential one, without special communication systems ... Therefore, he circled so long before landing in Istanbul that he could not understand where it was possible to fly, and where it was no longer.
Here, "for joy or for misfortune" it happened, time will tell. For now - martial law, and the lifting of the moratorium on the death penalty looms.

[desyatka]

News - fake type one woman (media) said. Such things are not said in the ears.

[Marlen]

Nichose. Credit to our scouts.

[black]

In all the controversy that unfolded, two questions clearly emerged. Is this a fake? If this is true, then why?
Is this a fake? According to our media, in Turkey there are only pro-government propaganda mouthpieces, and the rest have already been closed or imprisoned. With reference to Iranian diplomatic circles (?). Well, then why should they get along? Whose ass did they lick? They told the Turks how good we are? So they know. So here is 50 on 50.
Why do we need this? This was not a military conspiracy. It was a plot of PARTS military. Such a cute prologue to great chaos in a big country. Syria 2? Out of the blue, we could try and realize the centuries-old dream of the patriots: Russian banners over the Bosphorus. True, dreamers either do not fight, or die in the first battles. South Stream - Europe’s gas bondage, ours, pensions, kindergartens, schools, salaries.
Now Turkey Erdogan has no allies in the West. Western media represent him as an eastern Islamic dictator-tyrant. He declares his love for Iran (!) And Russia. For so many centuries we fought with the Ottoman Empire, with Turkey. Even if all this is a lie and demagogy. I saw it. Erdogan is a dictator? And you read how Papa Bashar al-Assad came to power. This is the East, gentlemen. Here the enemy can either be bought or destroyed. And the Russian banners over the Bosphorus ... I’ll still wait and see.

[Mestny]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Do you believe everything that is written in the media?

And you do not believe that our specialists work?

[evge-malyshev]

If warned, I think that is right. In this case, at least you know who you are dealing with. And those who come to his place, it is not known how they will behave both in relation to Russia, and in relation to the states and other EU. True, radish horseradish is not sweeter.

[tolmachiev51]

Quote: PDM80

Yes, what a duty, what a friendship !!! Erdogan himself muddied all this to strengthen his power and remove unwanted that's all! And this is a journalistic duck. which our military has not officially confirmed. And even if it were true, then a few hours this time is not worth it, because such reports require verification

Especially when they are going to "bang" you !!!

[Neputin]

An absolutely accurate phrase that there are no permanent friends and enemies in politics. And the thinking of politicians is a completely different plane of being. Therefore, sometimes their decisions look paradoxical. If a friend betrayed you, and then a profitable deal with his participation turns up, you proudly refuse, hitting yourself "with the heel in the chest." Not so in politics. I may be an idealist, but I see our policy as a little pushing and rocking a boat called the EU and NATO. The jolts are small, but they follow constantly and in the right direction, where the boat tilted, and the jolt goes there. It is possible that sooner or later another small jolt will lead to a complete overturning of the boat. By analogy with physics, when small but constant impacts can destroy a concrete bridge by putting it into a state of resonance. And they understand this, but they cannot do anything radically. Hence the hysteria in the media and fierce resistance.

[Andryukha G]

If this is true, then Mr. (comrade) Erdogan will owe to comrade Putin V.V. like land to a collective farm.

[Disorder]

Let's just think about it.

Sources said that "the Russian army intercepted the coded radiograms of the rebels, showing that the Turkish army is preparing to stage a coup."
According to them, in particular, "these signals contained information about sending several helicopters to the hotel where President Erdogan was located, which they intended to arrest or kill."

Let's say our radio intelligence intercepted, decoded and translated into Russian the radio messages of the "rebels".
The question immediately arises - how was it determined that this was a rebellion? What, in the radio talks voiced the coup plan, directly planned to send helicopters to arrest or liquidate Erdogan?
Based on the number and composition of the arrested conspirators, the question arises: how was Erdogan able to leave the hotel at all, not to get to the airport and take off?
And the main question - "Did we need it?" This is not the first military coup in Turkey. Generally, in the East military coups are almost a national sport. In Egypt, there was a military coup a few years ago.

[voyaka uh]

"This is not the first military coup in Turkey. In general, there are military coups in the East" ////

Before “let's just think,” let's study the Turkish constitution.
According to her, the military is obliged to make a coup if there is a threat of Islamization of the country.
This is their constitutional duty.
And the threat of Islamization is definitely there.
Those. they must try again and again to remove Erdogan from power - to success.

[OlegYola]

No need to turn into a media outlet

[Sever086]

Quote: Dimontius

If this is true, then I simply refuse to put forward any assumptions about the policy of the Russian Federation in the future. Such scanwords can not be grasped by anyone. To be honest, I really want to believe in it, because the option immediately begs in addition to the collapse of the EU because of Britain, and the collapse of NATO because of Turkey. well .. pray!

Amen!!!