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Vitaly Davydov: we decided to complicate the "exam" requirements for the "Avatar"

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Vitaly Davydov: we decided to complicate the "exam" requirements for the "Avatar"



The Russian Foundation for Advanced Studies (FPI) contributes to the development of technology, in particular in the interests of the Russian Defense Ministry. Now the organization is leading the 52 project.

The Deputy Director General of FPI, Vitaly Davydov, told TASS in an interview about the most interesting work of the organization: will Avatar be controlled by the power of thought, at what depth did the experts teach dogs to breathe, what would result in the movement of deep-sea robots and why Russia needs a Herbarium.

- The most famous project of the Foundation is the anthropomorphic robot "Avatar". The robot had to go through an obstacle course and drive a car first by the end of last year, then in spring. Did you realize your plans?

- Work on this project has not yet been completed. The robot has not yet overcome the promised obstacle course.

During the implementation of the project, several problems arose that forced the postponement of the final tests to a later date. This is due, among other things, to the fact that we ourselves decided to complicate the "examination" requirements for Avatar. According to the new terms, the tests of Avatar will be held in the third quarter of this year.

The ability to drive a car is one of the serious requirements for this robotic platform. This procedure was carried out at the stand by the employees of the Foundation’s lab. The Avatar drove the steering wheel, shifted the gear lever. At the same time, he automatically recognized the roadbed, the shoulder, the road markings, went around obstacles.

- One of the functions of "Avatar" is an exact repetition of movements of an operator located at a distance from it. Will it be possible to manage it using the brain-computer interface, another project of yours? At what stage are the works on managing objects using thought?

- Frankly, at the beginning of work in this area, we had more optimism than now. The hope that a person will be able to mentally control the technical means surrounding him and that this will be the control of thought alone, until he has fully justified himself.

We are at the stage of understanding the results obtained during the implementation of the project. Work in this direction will continue, but first you need to clearly understand what practical applications we can count on in the end.

Our task is not only to create an interface for controlling military equipment, but also to help people with disabilities to use their own devices, such as turning on the lights, typing on a computer, and controlling mechanical limbs. To solve these problems, it is likely to integrate into this interface and other control methods, for example, based on tracking eye movements.

- How is the work on another robotic platform - "Nerekhtoi"? What tasks will she solve and when will she go to the troops?

- The Nerekhta demonstration platform can be assigned the tasks of reconnaissance, correction or firing, as well as cargo transportation.

Now we are working on landfills application on the platform of small weapons. In particular, when we demonstrated its work at the TsNIITOCHMASH test site, Nerekhta, within the framework of a given program, knocked out an inscription on the target: "The military industrial complex of the Russian Federation" (Military-Industrial Commission of the Russian Federation). This indicates the high accuracy of both the software product and all elements of the control system created by the developers of Nerekhta.

There are different ways for the operator to interact with Nerekhta, but all of them will be carried out via a wireless secure communication channel. At the same time, the operator can highlight targets on the monitor or use a special helmet of augmented reality, looking at the desired target for its defeat.

We are faced with the task of creating not just a ground attack robot, but an reconnaissance-strike complex, including aerial reconnaissance and additional reconnaissance of targets with special unmanned aerial vehicles, target control with the help of the reconnaissance version of Nerekhta and the destruction of the target with a combat robot.

It’s too early to talk about the timing of the transfer of the robotic complex of the Ministry of Defense, the tests have not yet been completed.
- What is the situation with airborne and sea unmanned platforms?

- We have planned an interesting work on aerial drones related to the development of software for their various intended uses. It is planned to attract a large number of teams to it, each of which will work out its own "software" for a specially created basic aircraft. The project will end with a competition of drones.

As for the unified platform for unmanned aerial vehicles, its appearance is almost impossible. The various tasks imposed on such devices impose significantly different requirements on speed, range and altitude, and payload mass.

On the maritime theme, work is being carried out to create an uninhabited apparatus designed to develop technologies for deep-sea diving and long autonomous navigation. This issue is dealt with by FPI laboratories in the Far East and St. Petersburg. We also intend to involve the institutes of the Russian Academy of Sciences in this work, including for conducting scientific research at very large depths.

- Will the atomic energy source be used in the marine apparatus for long autonomous navigation?

- Not necessary. More likely is the use of air-independent power plant.

- If specialized deep-water robots appear, what is the purpose of the project of human liquid underwater breathing?

- In front of everyone fleets the world has the task of ensuring the rescue of submarine crews from great depths. At the same time, the key problem is associated with decompression sickness, which can lead to the death of submariners during their rapid autonomous ascent to the surface.

If gas mixtures are used for breathing, then, in order to avoid decompression sickness, it is necessary to emerge very slowly, for hours. A person may be injured and in need of lower case medical care, there is a threat to just freeze to the deep. So, you need to find another way to provide the body with oxygen. The way out of this situation is to fill the lungs with an oxygen-containing liquid. A few decades ago it became clear that such a solution was possible, but it did not receive practical application.

Now we are practicing, although the theory is not yet completely clear. We are faced with many questions: we need to find a liquid formulation, ensure the output of carbon dioxide, determine the technology of introducing fluid into the lungs, its elimination, drug support before, after and during liquid respiration. It is necessary to solve the psychological problem - in order for a person to start breathing the fluid that filled his lungs, he must, in fact, voluntarily choke.

We hope that as a result of our work a special spacesuit will be created, which will be useful not only for submariners, but also for astronauts and pilots.

- Already have experimental data?

- We are already conducting field tests. Started them with mice and other small animals. Now we are conducting experimental testing on large animals.

At the same time, special attention is paid to the issues of assessing the possible consequences for the organism from switching to liquid respiration, as well as determining the duration of the safe use of this type of respiration.

Today, large animals can breathe at a depth of up to 500 meters for more than half an hour without any health effects.

- What are these "large animals" and how is it determined that they can breathe at a depth of 500 meters?

- As testers, we are dogs. A special submerged capsule was created for them. The tests were carried out in the hydraulic chamber. Immediately I want to note that all test dogs survived and feel well after “immersion” and prolonged liquid respiration. As a rule, after the test, the laboratory employees take the dogs to themselves or give them to friends.

- Recently, FPI opened for public beta testing access to the platform designed for the development of engineering software "Herbarium". What is the development of domestic "software"?

- We expect that the Herbarium will help eliminate Russian dependence on foreign "software."

The enterprises of the military-industrial complex have already experienced the consequences of such dependence, when they have restricted access to updates of previously acquired software. You never know how the situation will develop further, we need to hedge and release their product. Domestic software guarantees the absence of "bookmarks" and reliable software modeling of real physical processes.

Practically all potential customers showed interest in this project: federal executive bodies, state corporations, enterprises of the military-industrial complex. Open beta testing will allow users to collect suggestions and comments in order to release an updated version of the software product after they are taken into account.

- Will the “Herbarium” be available to Russia's allies in the CSTO, SCO, BRICS?

- It seems to me that this will not be any problems. We are interested in our software product having as many users as possible.

- At what stage is the project of the so-called smart bullet?

- Work in this direction continues. The design and experimental development of the product in the uncontrolled mode has been completed, tests in the controlled flight mode have been started.

- How many total projects of the Foundation are under implementation? Do they have enough money?

- Now we have a 52 project in different stages of implementation.

In their framework, the problems of the development of high-precision weapons, robotic systems, means of countering underwater objects, equipment of a new generation, as well as the creation of innovative technologies are considered.

All these projects are provided with the necessary financial resources, since the volume of obligations assumed by the Fund (contracts concluded) does not exceed the amount of the appropriations actually allocated to it. At the same time, in connection with the freezing of the level of financing of the Fund, caused by known economic difficulties, the growth rate of the number of projects being implemented has slowed down. In order not to cut the scope of work, we began to pay more attention to advance projects.

- How will the freezing of the Fund’s funding affect the continuation of work? Do you plan to increase budget allocations for FPI activities next year?

- We expected that, starting from 2017, the amount of financing of the Fund will increase significantly. But, judging by the forecast of the development of the economic situation, the planned growth of financing will not be, and if it is, it will be very insignificant.

Of course, this will negatively affect our activities. Firstly, we will not be able to increase the volume of projects both this year and next year. By the number of ongoing projects, the Foundation will remain at about the current level, that is, in the area of ​​50-60 projects.

Secondly, the plans of transition for a number of projects to the creation of demonstrators will be unrealized, since this requires significantly more funds than for the “paper” stage. Keeping the current level of financing will slow down our work, and will lead to a delay in the implementation of "in the gland" of our developments.

- What projects are completed?

- Completed eight jobs. According to their results, decisions were made to create demonstrators of guided missile weapons, a multi-position radar complex, and a small light complex of a new generation. In addition, according to the results obtained in the framework of the completed projects, work was carried out to create a number of technologies: multipath lithography, control of various devices using the brain-computer interface, and increasing the spatial resolution of satellite images.
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  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 21 July 2016 05: 23
    0
    Poor Avatar, they will send you to Kandahar.
    1. Mahmut
      Mahmut 21 July 2016 07: 10
      +4
      Today, large animals can breathe at a depth of up to 500 meters for more than half an hour without any health effects.

      Impressive. I can imagine the shock experienced by the dogs.
      1. SSR
        SSR 21 July 2016 08: 55
        0
        + the film "Depth" is reminiscent of where the spacesuit was filled with liquid oxygen. Science fiction yesterday is reality today.
        1. Monster_Fat
          Monster_Fat 21 July 2016 10: 05
          +1
          Why "fantasy", in France, back in the 80s of the last century, successful experiments were carried out on breathing "oxygen-enriched liquid" at great depths, allegedly up to 1500 meters, as well as with "artificial gills" based on a "hemoglobin sponge". Cameron did not take this "theme" from the "ceiling" for his film. "Google" this topic on the Internet for anyone interested.
  2. Teberii
    Teberii 21 July 2016 05: 28
    +1
    We hope to realize so many interesting developments.
    1. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 21 July 2016 06: 00
      +2
      On the basis of what? I mean the element base, and it is not Russian stopudovo. Hoping that China will help us is stupid. It is clear that the development, but it is necessary to start building its own electronics production.
      1. Felix
        Felix 21 July 2016 07: 02
        +3
        Quote: dmi.pris
        I mean the element base, but it is not Russian stopudovo.

        Where does the data come from?
  3. Wolka
    Wolka 21 July 2016 05: 33
    -5
    Before the Olympics in Rio Russia need a peremptory sensation, ready to offer something, act ...
    1. insular
      insular 21 July 2016 05: 49
      +8
      Quote: Volka
      Russia needs peremptory sensation
      So let's fuck it? fellow A landmine off the coast of AmErica? Here is a sensation so the sensation will be laughing
      Well, or publish a report "from reliable sources" that Obama is an agent of the Kremlin and sanctions were introduced at the request of Russia in order to raise the Russian economy. The world is already used to the fact that Putin is everywhere, and Russia is to blame for everything. Believe it! good
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  4. ML-334
    ML-334 21 July 2016 05: 50
    +1
    It is necessary to engage in man, such as Reason to unlock. We ourselves, especially the brain are a very, very big mystery, we must conquer the Worlds and not the Cosmos.
  5. xant
    xant 21 July 2016 05: 55
    +4
    Why teach someone to breathe underwater?
    1. Space. To mitigate overloads, astronauts can be placed in a spacesuit filled with liquid; then the pressure will be distributed evenly and the likelihood of injury will decrease. You can go even further and pump fluid into the lungs, thereby aligning the density of body tissues and further reducing the burden on individual organs.

    2. Scuba diving. Respiratory fluid, unlike breathing mixtures, does not saturate the body with helium or nitrogen, so when lifting from great depths, there is less risk of developing caisson disease, so liquid breathing can be used to evacuate divers from great depths.

    3. Medicine. Liquid breathing is a salvation for premature babies whose lungs are not yet ready to breathe air either independently or with the help of artificial respiration apparatus.

    http://www.popmech.ru/made-in-russia/245982-v-rossii-sobak-nauchili-dyshat-zhidk
    ostyu /
  6. Bayonet
    Bayonet 21 July 2016 06: 03
    +3
    The first experiments on liquid breathing were carried out in the 60s of the last century on laboratory mice and rats, which were forced to inhale a saline solution with a high content of dissolved oxygen. This primitive mixture gave animals the opportunity to survive a certain amount of time, but it could not remove carbon dioxide, so irreparable harm was done to the lungs of animals. Later work began with perfluorocarbons, and their first results were much better than the results of experiments with brine. Perfluorocarbons are organic substances in which all hydrogen atoms are replaced by fluorine atoms. Perfluorocarbon compounds have the ability to dissolve both oxygen and carbon dioxide, they are very inert, colorless, transparent, can not cause damage to lung tissue and are not absorbed by the body.
    Since then, breathing fluids have been improved, the most advanced solution at the moment is called Perflubron or “Liquid” (commercial name). This oil-like transparent liquid with a density two times higher than the density of water has many useful qualities: it can carry twice as much oxygen as ordinary air, has a low boiling point, so after use it is finally removed from the lungs by evaporation. Alveoli under the influence of this fluid open better, and the substance gains access to their contents, this improves the exchange of gases. What prevents us from using liquid breathing? The breathing fluid is viscous and poorly removes carbon dioxide, so you will need forced ventilation. To remove carbon dioxide from an ordinary person weighing 70 kilograms, a flow of 5 liters per minute and higher is required, and this is a lot considering the high viscosity of liquids. With physical exertion, the required flow will only grow, and it is unlikely that a person will be able to move 10 liters of fluid per minute. Our lungs are simply not designed for breathing in fluid and are not able to pump such volumes themselves. The situation may change in the future, it remains only to turn our hopes to researchers in this field.
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 21 July 2016 07: 12
      +2
      Another obstacle to breathing fluids is a very high energy expenditure. It takes 36 times more energy to pump fluid through the bronchial vessels, since the viscosity of water is 36 times higher than air viscosity.) It is obvious that even in the absence of turbulent fluid movement in the lungs, 60 times more energy is needed for breathing water than for breathing by air.
      Therefore, it is not surprising that the experimental animals gradually weakened, and then - due to exhaustion and accumulation of carbon dioxide in the body - breathing ceased.
  7. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 21 July 2016 06: 03
    +3
    The portfolio of developments, judging by the publication, is not bad, but several topics still raise doubts (if the presentation of the topic is not distorted). For example, liquid breathing: the reflex does not allow a healthy person to inhale liquid, okay, in the end it will inhale, but the wounded, unconscious (and this is what the article focuses on) - how to make him ... According to Nerekhta, the platform seems to be not bad, but why they abandoned the wires as a back-up communication channel is not clear, because in conditions of suppression of communication by means of electronic warfare, oh, how difficult it is with the organization of the channel. You can go on ...
  8. xant
    xant 21 July 2016 06: 06
    +2
    The Advanced Research Foundation and the Android Technology NGO created an anthropoformed robot avatar. The name of the android is Ivan the Terminator.
    More details: http://rosnauka.ru/news/2031
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 21 July 2016 06: 56
      +2
      Quote: xant
      More details: //rosnauka.ru/news/2031

      Then the robot demonstrated its fighting qualities: with five shots from a pistol, it hit the target and made a circle on the ATV on the autodrome. The operator controlled the robot using sensors.
      This is when he was bolted with lanyards to the ATV, so as not to fall? ? smile Hopefully, things have gone further.
      1. Bayonet
        Bayonet 21 July 2016 07: 20
        0
        Quote: Bayonet
        The operator controlled the robot using sensors.

        PS It would be more accurate if I didn’t direct, but remotely controlled!
  9. PKK
    PKK 21 July 2016 06: 09
    0
    There are a lot of developments, but as Life teaches, it is imperative that something important is missed and we have no doubts. It’s a fighter, In winter, as it was frozen in the trenches in 1812, it freezes even now, with the exception of elite units. to big losses, it steers, but I don’t even hear about the fast-moving one. And the mystery is how much of that electronics will remain after a series of disarming nuclear explosions.
    1. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 21 July 2016 07: 44
      +1
      Well, and what kind of bastards in 1812? laughing
      1. BARKHAN
        BARKHAN 21 July 2016 09: 14
        +1
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        Well, and what kind of bastards in 1812? laughing

        Flushes, redoubts, lunettes, trenches ....
        http://mil.ru/et/war/[email protected]
  10. xant
    xant 21 July 2016 06: 16
    +1
    "At the end of May, from the 25th to the 29th, an open beta testing of the Herbarium project will begin on the Cyrillic Internet portal Herbarium.RF. Anyone who wants to test the domestic platform for the development of engineering software will be allowed to test," he said ...

    According to him, after registering on the site, everyone will be able to download the Herbaria software, familiarize themselves with it, as well as leave comments and suggestions on the forum.
    Garbuk noted that, in particular, the United Aircraft Corporation and the Krylov State Scientific Center took part in closed testing of the domestic software platform.

    http://гербарий.рф
  11. ML-334
    ML-334 21 July 2016 06: 20
    0
    Gentlemen of the minuscules, justify your irritation so that I learn from mistakes. Ignorance of a topic does not mean that it does not exist. I know what I'm writing, however strange it may seem.
  12. xant
    xant 21 July 2016 06: 25
    +1
    The Advanced Research Foundation and the All-Russian Scientific Research Institute of Aviation Materials (VIAM) conduct joint research on the creation of advanced metal powder materials and the development of additive technologies for the production of complex machine parts and mechanisms. For this purpose, the Fund’s laboratory, equipped with the most advanced technical and technological equipment, has been created and operates on the basis of VIAM.

    Last week, scientists were able to organize and successfully conduct a demonstration experiment to confirm the operability of a small-sized gas turbine engine, the components and assemblies of which are made from metal powder compositions and additive production modes developed jointly with VIAM.

    Such an experiment was held on the territory of our camp for the first time. Previously, using additive technologies, it was possible to produce only individual parts of propulsion systems that were not subject to high loads. The experiment as a whole participated in the FPI and VIAM experiment.

    “In general, we are satisfied with the result obtained by the results of the experiment, which can be called intermediate for the volume of work that is planned for us together with VIAM. It is obvious that we will continue to work together to develop additive technologies in our country, in the direction of expanding the range of related materials, as well as creating our own 3-D printing systems that do not have world analogues, ”the deputy director general of FPI said at the end of the experiment - Alexander Panfilov, Head of the Department of Chemical Biological and Medical Research.

    this seems to me more realistic.


    http://fpi.gov.ru/press/news/160627
  13. taseka
    taseka 21 July 2016 06: 33
    -1
    The world is going to a war of robots and conducting a multimedia battle, and we must be prepared for this! I welcome the work of the FPI in this direction!
  14. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 21 July 2016 07: 56
    +1
    Now I will earn a bunch of minuses, but I DON'T LIKE some projects - especially a "smart" bullet with a firing distance of 10 kilometers. Well, "Multibeam lithography" - this topic is just professionally familiar. How are projects selected? This is the most important thing in such funds. Since I rarely met among REAL scientists who can effectively present their developments to the expert commission.
  15. guzik007
    guzik007 21 July 2016 08: 20
    +1
    "We decided to complicate things." Well, how else! The inspectors came and asked: "Well, dear, where are the results, where did the billions allocated for development go?"
    -You know ... We thought ... and ... uh ... decided to complicate the task. It will be even cooler.
    -Hmm, better say, well.
    -E - .. we would have a couple more lards and ten years to complicate
    A curtain.
    Something like it seems to me.
  16. Izotovp
    Izotovp 21 July 2016 08: 26
    0
    And I was especially interested in the next-generation light rifle complex.
  17. NEXUS
    NEXUS 21 July 2016 09: 18
    +1
    - We expect that the Herbarium will help eliminate Russian dependence on foreign "software."

    I wonder if this project will be absolutely domestic, or will the kernel for the OS in the Herbarium project be taken from Linux? ..
  18. Kudrevkn
    Kudrevkn 21 July 2016 09: 59
    0
    Big ship - great voyage! Creative success and great scientific and technical victories to you, my friends, scientists!
  19. Pencil
    Pencil 21 July 2016 11: 02
    0
    Quote: Bayonet
    To remove carbon dioxide from an ordinary person weighing 70 kilograms, a flow of 5 liters per minute and higher is required, and this is a lot considering the high viscosity of liquids. With physical exertion, the required flow will only grow, and it is unlikely that a person will be able to move 10 liters of fluid per minute. Our lungs are simply not designed for breathing in fluid and are not able to pump such volumes themselves. The situation may change in the future, it remains only to turn our hopes to researchers in this field.

    Stop, gentlemen, quite a fantasy! In zero gravity - yes. In gravity - absolutely NO! 5 liters of water into the lungs of a vertically standing person, or even 10? !!! As a child, did you pour water into, sorry, in the city of A.D. Lungs - this is not a string bag - a T-shirt from Auchan ...
  20. Baby doll
    Baby doll 21 July 2016 12: 14
    +1
    I don’t know how anyone, but I generally think this organization with its projects from the field of fantasy seems suspicious. One composition of the board of trustees, headed by the owner of 3 award pistols, a doctor of technical sciences without technical education, is alarming. Who gave the foundation tasks for the development of these 52 projects? The money is budgetary, ours is with you. And it turns out, they sat down, poked their noses and figured out in which direction they would "lead the projects", and then they would think about where and to whom to shove what happened. Or is it nowadays without a smart bullet or ATV gunner driver? There should be priority areas at the present time, and not in the distant future, there is no extra money in the budget yet. Strange approach to prospective research in the face of scarcity.
  21. Pencil
    Pencil 21 July 2016 15: 58
    +1
    Quote: Pupsen
    I don’t know how anyone, but I generally think this organization with its projects from the field of fantasy seems suspicious. One composition of the board of trustees, headed by the owner of 3 award pistols, a doctor of technical sciences without technical education, is alarming. Who gave the foundation tasks for the development of these 52 projects? The money is budgetary, ours is with you. And it turns out, they sat down, poked their noses and figured out in which direction they would "lead the projects", and then they would think about where and to whom to shove what happened. Or is it nowadays without a smart bullet or ATV gunner driver? There should be priority areas at the present time, and not in the distant future, there is no extra money in the budget yet. Strange approach to prospective research in the face of scarcity.

    Well, the statement about "Power of Thought" is simply amazing (literally and figuratively))))))).