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Small civil air war over Turkey

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David Cenciotti on his famous web site The Aviationist 18 July 2016 published some interesting material about a kind of small air war that occurred over Turkey during an unsuccessful attempt by a part of the Turkish military to carry out a military coup in the night from 15 to 16 July 2016. It should be noted that the reliability of the part of the stated information is unclear.



Small civil air war over Turkey

Boeing KC-135R Stratotanker tanker from the 101 Squadron of the Turkish Air Force and Lockheed Martin F-16C fighter aircraft of the Turkish Air Force (s) of the Turkish Air Force

F-16, KC-135R, A400M: known and unknown details about the night of the military coup in Turkey


Here is a record of what happened on July 15, when a military coup was attempted in Turkey. The material is based on information collected by the Turkish military journalist Аrda Mevlutoglu, on the analysis of recordings of programs aviation defendants (Mode-S) and reports that were published by several media outlets after the coup.

Shortly after 22.00 local time, on July 15, the air traffic controller (ATC) 4 air base in Akinji, located northwest of Ankara, contacted his counterpart at Ankara Esenboga airport. The 141-i, 142-i and 143-i squadrons (Filo) of the Turkish Air Force, equipped with F-16C fighter jets, are based on Aqingji airbase.

The 4 airbase dispatcher reported that two F-16 airbase fighters were about to take off, then fly thousands of feet at 21-22, and that their coordination with the Ezenboga ATC is impossible.

Shortly thereafter, two F-16 with the callsign Aslan 1 ("Leo 1") and Aslan 2 ("Leo 2") 141-th squadron flew from the 4-th airbase.

After takeoff, Aslan 1 contacted Esenboga and asked for permission to rise to the designated height, which was given to him. Responding to a question about intentions, the pilot answered that he was performing a "special task, will fly over the city of Ankara."

Shortly after these negotiations, telephone calls from the city began to come to Esenboga with reports that planes were flying at very high speed at low altitude. During a time around 22.20 - 22.25, a video was filmed with an F-16 fighter flying over Ankara at roof level.

Puzzled by these messages, the air traffic controller of Esenboga contacted the dispatcher of the 4 air base for an explanation. The answer was: "They are unaccompanied, their respondents are turned off." The air base 4 dispatcher also reported to Esenbog that the new F-16 pair with the call sign Shahin ("Hawk") also took off and is at low altitude.

The Shahin pair threatened civilian air traffic, which was diverted to alternative approaches.

Shortly thereafter, dispatcher Esenboga discovered a KC-135R tanker aircraft with the call sign Asena 02, following from Infirlik's 10 air base. The presence of this KC-135R from the 101 squadron (using Asena callsigns) is confirmed by the data of the defendants collected by the feeder in Ankara.

At this stage, the Esenbog dispatcher did not have any contact with the aforementioned F-16 and KC-135R. Turkish F-16 began periodic air refueling from Asena 02. It is worth noting that, reportedly, four KC-135R (callsigns from Asena 01 to 04 - flew out of Incirlik - noted in the logs of the responders).

It was reported that the planes and helicopters supporting the rebels struck the following targets [in Ankara]:

The headquarters of the special operations police forces on Gelbashi (blows struck from F-16, 47 policemen were killed)

Headquarters Aviation Police in Gölbaşı

Building of the Grand National Assembly of Turkey

Headquarters of the Turkish Police

MIT (National Intelligence Organization) headquarters at Yenimahalle

The headquarters of the state satellite company satellite television TurkSAT in Gölbaşı

Presidential Palace in Bestepe

For several hours, the F-16 rebels flew over Ankara at very high speeds, often breaking the sound barrier at very low altitudes and shooting infrared traps

It was also reported that the F-16 of both sides engaged in air battles over Ankara and Istanbul, however, no aircraft were shot down in accordance with reports received so far. It is interesting to note that one of the rebels who piloted the rebel F-16 was the pilot who shot down the Russian Su-24, which violated Turkish airspace in November 2015.

F-16 from the airfields of Dalaman, Erzurum and Balikesir flew to intercept the F-16 rebel fighters (the latter were reportedly six).

5-I airbase in Merzifone, which is one of the closest to Ankara, is under reconstruction and closed. All its fighters are temporarily based in Erzurum.

Meanwhile, the tanker Asena 02 left the Ankara area and climbed to the maximum operational height, circling over Kastamonu. Asena 03 took over its role of supporting the rebel F-16. A pair of [government] F-16 arrivals were hoisted on Asena 02 to shoot him down, but did not, probably because he was above residential areas.

At least one AH-1 Cobra helicopter, probably of type AH-1W, fired 20-mm cannon at the protesting crowds and at the building of the Grand National Assembly of Turkey. The same helicopter (or other), as reported, also opened fire on the headquarters of the TurkSAT state satellite television satellite company in Gölbaşı. This helicopter was reportedly shot down by government F-16.

The S-70A helicopter opened fire on the main entrance of the campus of the MIT special services. He reportedly attempted to land a commando with the aim of seizing the object and abducting the head of the special service, Hakan Fidan. This helicopter was reportedly shot down (not confirmed).

One or two AS532 Air Force CSAR combat search and rescue helicopters raided the high-ranking general in Istanbul’s wedding ceremony, which was attended by many generals. Commando CSAR kidnapped them.

Eight transport aircraft (C-160 and A400M - one with the call sign Esem 26, which was already in the air when the coup began) flew out of Kayseri and landed on the 7-th air base in Malatya. They were loaded weaponsintended for use by the rebels.

The F-16 insurgents were looking for President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s plane (Gulfstream IV with a TC-ATA registration) around Istanbul to shoot him down. According to some media reports, the rebel F-16 already held this plane in their sights - however, it is unclear whether they really had a target lock or, more likely, were only conducting a radar search of the Gulfstream IV aircraft.

The TC-ATA board used the call sign THY 8456 to disguise as a Turkish Airlines aircraft (Turkish Airlines callsign is THY), and the risk of knocking down another plane, as well as a loss of confidence could be factors that prevented the rebel F-16 from knocking the plane down and killing Erdogan.

The TC-ATA board flew from Dalaman to Istanbul Ataturk Airport, which was captured by coup supporters. Air traffic control was captured, all lights turned off. Shortly before the landing of the TC-ATA, the airport was repelled by the rebels (detailed information about Erdogan’s flight here).

Early in the morning of July 16, fighters (probably F-4E-2020) from the 2 air base from Eskisehir struck a bombing strike on the main runway of the 4 air base, while at least one F-16C Block 50 of the Turkish Air Force circled west of Ankara, most likely air patrols. In the afternoon of the same day, the DRLO and E-7 control aircraft from the 131 squadron and F-16 from the 142 squadron flew to the Ankara area, probably in readiness to intercept any helicopter or light aircraft that would try to flee to Greece.

Significant information for this message was provided by Arda Mevlutoglu. Additional information from @CivMilAir and @Avischarf


Lockheed Martin F-16C Fighting Falcon rebels fighter takes place at low altitude over Ankara on the night from 15 to 16.07.2016 (c) theaviationist.com


Lockheed Martin F-16C Block 50 Fighting Falcon fighter (crew number 94-0084) from the 141 squadron of the 4 fighter aircraft of the Turkish Air Force in Akinci, June 2015 of the year (с) www.targeta.co.uk

A coup supporter helicopter (supposedly Bell AH-1W) firing a cannon at the headquarters of the MIT (National Intelligence Organization) in Ankara on the night of 15 on July 16:



A coup supporter helicopter (presumably Bell AH-1W) firing a cannon at a police armored car in Ankara on the night of 15 on July 16:



The 16 July bombing of government tactical fighter jets (probably F-4E-2020 from 2-th air base from Eskisehir) on the main runway of 4-th air base in Akinci, which was a rebel stronghold:

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  1. Ami du peuple
    Ami du peuple 21 July 2016 18: 21
    +4
    The Ottomans fought well among themselves. What can I say? And this is their answer for Lieutenant Colonel Peshkov. In such an unexpected form, she flew to the Turkish Air Force.
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 21 July 2016 18: 34
      +24
      Quote: Ami du peuple
      The Ottomans fought well among themselves.

      Bad. recourse It was necessary to share in half and wall to wall. yes
      1. Tanya
        Tanya 21 July 2016 18: 43
        +21
        Quote: Vladimirets
        Quote: Ami du peuple
        The Ottomans fought well among themselves.

        Bad. recourse It was necessary to share in half and wall to wall. yes


        Early to summarize. The fleet has not yet fought with the opposition squadron. request
        1. HERMES
          HERMES 21 July 2016 18: 48
          +5
          "Ambassador:" Turkey will help Azerbaijan in the fight against the forces of Fethullah Gulen ""
          It was still not enough that Turkey would drag the "brotherly people" along ...

          "ANS TV channel was closed due to the announcement of an interview with Gulen"
          Already covered the whole channel ....


          So far, nothing comes from Turkey except merde ...
        2. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 21 July 2016 18: 50
          +24
          Quote: Tanya
          The fleet has not yet fought with the opposition squadron.

          She still needs to be found.
        3. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 21 July 2016 20: 00
          +5
          Quote: Tanya
          The fleet has not yet fought with the opposition squadron.

          The squadron has already merged. Dispersed through the ports of "friendly" Greeks. wink
        4. ,
          , 21 July 2016 21: 25
          +3
          I didn’t even read, minus the article, the pilots violated the border of Turkey ??
      2. Dam
        Dam 21 July 2016 22: 20
        +1
        And the winner to kill against the wall
    2. Khariton
      Khariton 21 July 2016 18: 39
      +2
      Quote: Ami du peuple
      The Ottomans fought well among themselves. What can I say? And this is their answer for Lieutenant Colonel Peshkov. In such an unexpected form, she flew to the Turkish Air Force.

      Do you remember how Putin disappeared and abruptly canceled all meetings ..? Nevertheless, our special services work perfectly .. We decided to support Erdogan, it’s more profitable for us!
      Great job Vladimir Vladimirovich! He clearly avenged .. Erdogan, now he owes his life to Russia! The USA and the hero are furious ...

      Oblom you another United States and Israel ..! hi
      1. HERMES
        HERMES 21 July 2016 18: 50
        +13
        Quote: Chariton
        Oblom you another United States and Israel ..!

        Well, how can it be without Israel ... "you can't just take, and not add Israel" to such events.
        1. Khariton
          Khariton 21 July 2016 19: 47
          +3
          Quote: HERMES
          Quote: Chariton
          Oblom you another United States and Israel ..!

          Well, how can it be without Israel ... "you can't just take, and not add Israel" to such events.

          Who benefits from this massacre in the Middle East ... Remember Iraq, Iran, Syria, Lebanon (Israel’s neighbors) ... strong and generally stable states! And what have they turned into now? And not only that, the world powers of the world are drawing in this massacre! But Israel is silent and shoots slowly ... Like they have nothing to do with it at all ..))))
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          3. brr1
            brr1 21 July 2016 21: 15
            0
            [media = https: //m.youtube.com/watch? v = z6afpdi5cZk]
          4. HERMES
            HERMES 21 July 2016 21: 39
            0
            Quote: Chariton
            Who benefits from this massacre in the Middle East ... Remember Iraq, Iran, Syria, Lebanon (Israel’s neighbors) ... strong and generally stable states! And what have they turned into now? And not only that, the world powers of the world are drawing in this massacre! But Israel is silent and shoots slowly ... Like they have nothing to do with it at all ..))))

            They are smarter than all of you listed ...
            1. bazalt16
              bazalt16 22 July 2016 03: 14
              +4
              How do you think the mind of a whole nation? By the size of hats or the number of idiots per 1000 people? Or by the country's GDP? You Hermes is immediately visible as a fan of the smartest country in the world. Now it is fashionable. Even change the surname to "Russian", become Ivanov and it will immediately become clear to everyone that you are smart too
            2. Knizhnik
              Knizhnik 22 July 2016 10: 58
              +1
              You can treat Israel as you like, but justice requires us to recognize that Israel works well (for itself) "for the long term", finds the right tactics with strong states, balancing the forces in the region. If only the United States had a little such intelligence and caution.
    3. GradusHuK
      GradusHuK 21 July 2016 20: 03
      +1
      These are the "Turkish tomatoes"
    4. SSR
      SSR 21 July 2016 20: 32
      +2
      Quote: Ami du peuple
      And this is their answer for Lieutenant Colonel Peshkov. In such an unexpected form, she flew to the Turkish Air Force.

      But another thought came to me, the pilot who shot down our Su-24 by order from above suddenly, after some time, goes against those who made this decision, I fully admit that he was against or at least dissatisfied with such a task, but the order is the order.
      1. iliitchitch
        iliitchitch 21 July 2016 22: 54
        +2
        Quote: SSR
        But another thought came to me, the pilot who shot down our Su-24 by order from above suddenly, after some time, goes against those who made this decision, I fully admit that he was against or at least dissatisfied with such a task, but the order is the order.


        For the Turks, he is a hero, for us a bastard (he would have received an order to attack the SU-35S, ah a question about an attack, there are always "good" reasons to jump from the market in combat conditions). To knock an old man in the back is not great valor, and his front hemisphere is not particularly "highlighted". But why did we not foresee such a mean thing?
        "If the air smells of sulfur, then I will order the production of holy water on an industrial scale ..." Somehow Rudolf Sikorski said to the Strugatskys. I subscribe to his words.
        And right away for those who ask: "What would ours do in this case?" ... It is difficult to imagine such a case, we do not climb into the souls of our neighbors with dirty boots. Moreover, this deer had a task to shoot down, well, they could not intercept in any way, they just waited stupidly.
        We even missed the puzzles of Rust, but the fact that the Korean Boeing was overwhelmed is the setup of the striped ones, WHAT it flew and how many there were - 1 or 2, a good question, we will learn the Anglo-Sankans masters from the bazaar in 50 years.
        1. SSR
          SSR 22 July 2016 08: 37
          0
          Actually, I didn’t write a word about “heroism” and valor, but wrote about the fact that the pilot who carried out the (criminal) order last year suddenly rebelled against him. That's it! I didn’t write about his personal or his professional, I just pointed to the fact that in his head there were many contradictions once he went against the top leadership.
  2. NordUral
    NordUral 21 July 2016 18: 23
    +10
    Failed coups are always stupid.
    1. iliitchitch
      iliitchitch 21 July 2016 19: 45
      +9
      Quote: NordUral
      Failed coups are always stupid.


      A successful coup is not a coup at all. Any revolution or rebellion of the oppressed people.
      These our sworn sidekicks Turks will never revive their Ottoman shalman. Well, okay, we will help to muddied the water less. I feel, not the last coup-revolution, it hurts many there "specific boys" from the trough with stolen oil squeezed.
      And the stupidity of the action felt sweaty striped little hand. Well, clearly it has long been said - Mail, Telegraph, Telephone. Learn, study and study. wassat
      1. 34 region
        34 region 21 July 2016 20: 18
        +9
        Ilyich! 19.45. I don’t know how it really is. But! Perhaps the elven hand is there. Is it bad for them if in Turkey it will be like in Libya? The conflict completely destroys the Turkish economy. Refugees rod to Europe and the degree is growing even more. The situation is heating up before the explosion. In the event of an explosion, the entire economy of Europe turns into dust. The Russian economy also suffers from this. Controlled chaos. Isn't that a dream of the Empire of Good? From the fact that the oil fields of this region will be participants in the conflict, I doubt that oil will rise in price. Rather, it will cost purely symbolically. And the whole business will be reduced to the formula, sell oil, buy weapons, remove competing groups (so as not to occupy market share and income and not dumped oil even more), sell oil, buy weapons ...
        1. iliitchitch
          iliitchitch 21 July 2016 21: 54
          +3
          Quote: Region 34
          I don’t know how it really is. But! Perhaps the elven hand is there. Is it bad for them if in Turkey it will be like in Libya? The conflict completely destroys the Turkish economy. Refugees rod to Europe and the degree is growing even more. The situation is heating up before the explosion. In the event of an explosion, the entire economy of Europe turns into dust. The Russian economy also suffers from this. Controlled chaos. Isn't that a dream of the Empire of Good? From the fact that the oil fields of this region will be participants in the conflict, I doubt that oil will rise in price. Rather, it will cost purely symbolically. And the whole business will be reduced to the formula, sell oil, buy weapons, remove competing groups (so as not to occupy market share and income and not dumped oil even more), sell oil, buy weapons ...


          No wonder I wrote about stupidity, it was not only Chernomyrdin that turned out "as always." We got into Syria forever, Egypt is quite sane after the vaccination of "Muslim brothers", but we have a lot of potential allies in those parts. New rules of the Game need to be established, and our first steps are still correct. No one who thinks objectively dares to say that Russia has violated its word, and this is more abrupt than the signature of a smoked Kenyan guest worker on any contract. Oil will definitely not fall in price. All these show-off "with shale" mattress show-off remained - they "carried" shale American oil on pieces of paper, which in fact turned out to be stolen Syrian oil, that's the whole soap and bubble opera. They racked up the videoconferencing system to them gasoline-powered (why not at the root, by the way, again a multi-way or "post-alcoholic" obligations? Questions and questions ...), and? If the states could catch up to $ 6 oil, they would catch up, and we would become sour.
          Syria should not be surrendered under any pretext; if you like, this is our Middle East Crimea, although not part of Russia. There, already in those parts of the brawl, a Saudi piece of desert was brewing itself. I imagined myself a Great piece of the desert. They just forgot that savages themselves learned to bargain with the Americans, and you play with Putin-Lavrov, these are not backgammon, these are three-dimensional chess online.
          1. Knizhnik
            Knizhnik 22 July 2016 10: 47
            0
            The videoconferencing system has been racked up by petrol hydraulics (why not at the root, by the way, is there a multi-passage or "post-alcoholic" obligations again?

            I don’t know how in Russia, but our traffic policemen have a tactic: they don’t “bomb” for a long time in one place (pun?), So that the carriers don’t remember with their skins that it’s hard on this site. As a result, there is always a good harvest from the "unafraid".
            There, already in those parts of the brawl, the Saudi piece of desert was brewing itself. I imagined myself a great piece of the desert.

            They don't even know how to play backgammon, they just buy up on the vine for "green" ones, God's patience is great, but still I hope that during my life I'll see on the news how this patience has ended ...
  3. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 21 July 2016 18: 23
    +5
    Extra confirmation of the terrible destructive power of modern combat aircraft and helicopters. And how few pilots who steer this power.
  4. Herman
    Herman 21 July 2016 18: 25
    0
    Not a fact, of course, but I heard that the American tanker was in charge of the rebel aircraft.
    1. 34 region
      34 region 21 July 2016 20: 21
      0
      Hermann! 18.25. And it would seem that this is a purely internal rebellion! So trust the Americans after that. Partners eat them in the poker!
      1. Herman
        Herman 21 July 2016 20: 40
        +3
        It seems to me that any rebellion purely internal is very rare, it is almost always warmed up from abroad, rebels may not even know that they were warmed up by the rebellious foreigners.
        PS In my opinion, no one trusts Americans anyway, except only the British and Canadians.
    2. alicante11
      alicante11 22 July 2016 09: 52
      +2
      Not a fact, of course, but I heard that the American tanker was in charge of the rebel aircraft.


      It’s logical, and then it’s understandable why the Turks didn’t bring him down.
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  6. Sasha75
    Sasha75 21 July 2016 18: 30
    +9
    Turkey decided to temporarily suspend the European Convention on Human Rights in connection with the state of emergency in the country, said Deputy Prime Minister Numan Kurtulmus. Now the fun begins there.
    1. Knizhnik
      Knizhnik 22 July 2016 10: 48
      +1
      The Turkish leaders only realized that the EU would not take them
  7. APASUS
    APASUS 21 July 2016 18: 34
    +23
    The most interesting is yet to come.
    What will Erdogan build from Turkey using the moment? After all, even those who unsuccessfully smiled will now be arrested. It will not be that Turkey built according to Ataturk’s precepts. And the problems in Europe will increase, they will try either not to notice him or try to get rid of him. And everyone would be happy if they dealt with him Russians, but right here our Vova comes in. Erdogan is a sly fox and you need to deal with him very carefully, considering that he was driven into a corner by his own ally, but not playing on this map means missing the most favorable moment for us. Now playing correctly , you can split not only the EU, but also NATO.
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 21 July 2016 18: 43
      +4
      This is all of course good, but it is alarming that so soon after the coup he was going to leave the country again and scratch Russia to agree on something. According to all the canons, it should be completely safe, the Bosko should be slaughtered, and he gathered for us. It’s not an hour without him, again the janissaries will get their coppers out of the barracks, so no vizier can handle it.
    2. Baloo
      Baloo 21 July 2016 18: 53
      +6
      1933 does not remind anyone in general terms, except for the information that Russian intelligence warned Erdogan at some point? It remains only to find someone for the role of Dimitrov-2.
    3. 34 region
      34 region 21 July 2016 20: 30
      +3
      Apasus! 18.34. Do you think Putin will make Erdogan an offer that he will not be able to refuse? What can he offer? Fight against ISIS? What to do with the Kurds? Give them autonomy in exchange for peace in a truncated Turkey? Expel the Americans at all? Leave NATO? Is Erdogan being recruited as an agent of Moscow? It is clear that Erdogan’s life is at stake. You can end up like Hussein and Gaddafi.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 22 July 2016 18: 15
        0
        Quote: Region 34
        Do you think Putin will make Erdogan an offer that he will not be able to refuse? What can he offer?

        An alliance with Russia is not enough? I won’t say for sure but Iran and China can join here.
        Erdogan’s life was a success!
        Because at the moment there is a question - a bullet in the head will be launched in Turkey or a court in The Hague, as the evidence is being adjusted there, it can be seen in Yugoslavia, although it does not need to be customized!
        Vova will offer him life and the chair of the President of Turkey - not enough?
  8. Avril69Lavigne
    Avril69Lavigne 21 July 2016 18: 46
    +13
    Thanks to Brazilian hackers: the head of the CIA in an interview with the head of the transcontinental corporation (the largest non-oil) General Electric finally admitted that the United States provoked a conflict between Russia and Ukraine in order to “lower the standard of living in both (!) Countries and provoke an influx of brains into Silicon the valley ... ”It turns out that Brazil has not only football, but also good hackers. No wonder Ostap Bender sought so much there, in his Rio de Janeiro. Judging by the materials, Turchinov called and asked for permission to “war with Russia” (terror in the southeast), demanded guarantees of political asylum and remembered the President of Georgia and his Inedible Tie, which the Americans threw, provoking a conflict with the Russian Federation, calmed down only after three millions of cash that arrived on the plane as a diplomatic cargo from the CIA and without guarantees of political asylum, but Poroshenko, who called sixteen (!) times, still had guarantees in terms of asylum in Britain (not in the USA), it turns out MI-6 is completely under The CIA lies, sadness, I like their advertisement (Bondiad) more than the CIA-ear "Mission Impossible" liked; sorry for the stupid children who would have died for all this ridiculous rat scuffle of important non-humans. That's it, I went looking for the Truth on the Internet! Do not remember the famously, a lawyer with legal experience aka Palm Sunday ... And remember fellow citizens of the Great Country: Virgin Mary is watching us !!!
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 21 July 2016 19: 50
      +5
      Quote: Avril69Lavigne
      Thanks to Brazilian hackers: the head of the CIA in an interview with the head of a transcontinental corporation

      - "Quiet Sema!" Ai-i-i-i-yay! I just overheard Saddam Hussein's secret talks with Tel Aviv! It turns out that Saddam Hussein's real name is Adik Guzman! "
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    3. helicop-man
      helicop-man 21 July 2016 20: 59
      -1
      Thank you smile
  9. novobranets
    novobranets 21 July 2016 18: 50
    +1
    It is interesting to note that one of the rebels who piloted the rebel F-16 was a pilot who shot down the Russian Su-24, which violated Turkish airspace in November 2015.
    So all the same, did the Su-24 violate the Turkish space or not? And what happened to the bluster that brought him down? If he was finished during a mess, I won’t be sad.
    1. kenig1
      kenig1 21 July 2016 19: 28
      0
      The Russian side chewed you all distinctly.
      1. novobranets
        novobranets 22 July 2016 14: 14
        0
        which violated Turkish airspace in November 2015.
        And who wrote this, the Turks? The article is also Russian.
  10. GSVG 86-88
    GSVG 86-88 21 July 2016 18: 50
    +1
    this is just the beginning ...
    1. klas000000
      klas000000 21 July 2016 19: 43
      0
      Where did you serve?
  11. ALABAY45
    ALABAY45 21 July 2016 18: 57
    0
    So, guys, all this is probably good and right (maybe wrong), but my youngest and his family are in transit on July 25 through Istanbul from Sofia to Moscow! No need to "sew" them idiocy, father-in-law's funeral. There, the transit zone of the airport, is it really safe ?! Who, in courses ?! hi
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    2. bk316
      bk316 21 July 2016 21: 27
      +2
      Quote: ALABAY45
      via Istanbul from Sofia to Moscow!

      It seems everything is fine, my friends found out.
      Why didn’t they fly directly to the Balkan?
      1. ALABAY45
        ALABAY45 22 July 2016 04: 31
        0
        Thank you so much! hi Paradoxically, but through Istanbul it’s cheaper ...
  12. Khariton
    Khariton 21 July 2016 18: 58
    +12
    Guys, just think and put the "puzzle" together ...
    Erdogan’s unexpected repentance (for the downed bomber), Putin suddenly disappeared (the Western media are afraid, where he is and why), then a military coup in Turkey, then Erdogan miraculously avoids death ... And then the most interesting thing about him (Erdogan) is the lists of conspirators and who directed all this ..))) FULL LIST!
    The US and the EU (Israel is also quietly involved only ..)) are unhappy and demand to observe "human rights" in Turkey! Putin was the first to support and congratulate Erdogan in suppressing the putsch ...
    At the beginning of August, a meeting between Erdogan and Putin is planned on the territory of Russia (I hope it will be Crimea))) Coincidence? I don’t think .... The brilliant operation of GDP! I hope Erdogan does not get off the hook, he’s a cool man, and you need to be careful with him ...
    These are the evening thoughts ..))))) I look forward to cons! hi
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 21 July 2016 19: 13
      +17
      Quote: Chariton
      put the puzzle together ...

      Let's.
      Quote: Chariton
      Erdogan’s unexpected repentance (for the downed bomber),

      Erdogan was told that he was kirdyk this way and that, so it’s better to repent so that with a clear conscience, so to speak ... yes
      Quote: Chariton
      Putin suddenly disappeared (Western media are scared where he is and why), then a military coup in Turkey

      Soooo what Putin leads a military coup ...
      Quote: Chariton
      further Erdogan miraculously avoids death ..

      But! Suddenly rescues Erdogan, passing him a plan! fellow
      Quote: Chariton
      And then the most interesting is his (Erdogan's) lists of conspirators and who directed all this ..))) FULL LIST!

      And he gives him a list of those whom he directed. wassat
      Quote: Chariton
      The US and the EU (Israel is also quietly involved only ..)) are unhappy and demand to observe "human rights" in Turkey!

      They save the people of Putin and at the same time their own. yes
      Quote: Chariton
      Putin was the first to support and congratulate Erdogan in suppressing the coup ...

      For which he received (unofficially) a thoroughbred horse, forty concubines and the order of the brilliant seal.
      Quote: Chariton
      Brilliant GDP operation!

      Hooray!!! Twenty young drummers come in and play Kamarinskaya.
      Quote: Chariton
      , he’s cool man, and you need to be careful with him ...

      No, no, GDP has insurance in Rosgosstrakh, and there it is reliable.
      Quote: Chariton
      Waiting for cons!

      Have mercy, what are the disadvantages ?! No. Oscar for directing and screenplay, as well as for the best male role of the 26th plan. good
      1. alexej123
        alexej123 21 July 2016 19: 54
        +5
        Evgeniy, 1000500 PLUSES. A very "clear analysis of the situation", literally "on the shelves" laid out. good
      2. Banishing liberoids
        Banishing liberoids 21 July 2016 20: 10
        +5
        Vladimir - add Hariton am
        1. Kos_kalinki9
          Kos_kalinki9 21 July 2016 20: 19
          +4
          Quote: Expelling Liberoids
          Vladimir - add Hariton am

          Like a puzzle! laughing
    2. Mikhail Krapivin
      Mikhail Krapivin 21 July 2016 19: 14
      +7
      Quote: Chariton
      Guys, just think and put the "puzzle" together ...
      Erdogan’s unexpected repentance (for the downed bomber), Putin suddenly disappeared (the Western media are afraid, where he is and why), then a military coup in Turkey, then Erdogan miraculously avoids death ... And then the most interesting thing about him (Erdogan) is the lists of conspirators and who directed all this ..))) FULL LIST!
      The US and the EU (Israel is also quietly involved only ..)) are unhappy and demand to observe "human rights" in Turkey! Putin was the first to support and congratulate Erdogan in suppressing the putsch ...
      At the beginning of August, a meeting between Erdogan and Putin is planned on the territory of Russia (I hope it will be Crimea))) Coincidence? I don’t think .... The brilliant operation of GDP! I hope Erdogan does not get off the hook, he’s a cool man, and you need to be careful with him ...
      These are the evening thoughts ..))))) I look forward to cons! hi


      Yes, yes, yes, and also because of Putin’s increased milk yield in a neighboring village. Where without Putin.
      1. Khariton
        Khariton 21 July 2016 19: 51
        -9
        Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
        Yes, yes, yes, and also because of Putin’s increased milk yield in a neighboring village. Where without Putin

        Well, I'm right all the same ... How did you liberoids quiet down then! The death penalty may appear in Russia ...
        1. gispanec
          gispanec 21 July 2016 19: 59
          -11%
          Quote: Chariton
          Well, I'm right all the same ... How did you liberoids quiet down then! The death penalty may appear in Russia ..

          liberoid here you are the only one left .... for such "downtown" we will always find a rope, although of course it is better in a cage and for show !! ... as in a zaopark
        2. Banishing liberoids
          Banishing liberoids 21 July 2016 20: 08
          +3
          Khariton, did you, my friend, give me a pointer about the restoration of the death penalty?
    3. klas000000
      klas000000 21 July 2016 19: 45
      +4
      If the trouble in Crimea will be in Kiev ...
    4. gispanec
      gispanec 21 July 2016 19: 55
      -1
      Quote: Chariton
      Coincidence? I don’t think .... Brilliant GDP operation! I hope Erdogan will not get off the hook

      wassat fool ... Khariton, how much did they drink ?? .... need to have a bite !!
      Quote: Chariton
      Waiting for cons!

      Glad to!
    5. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
      Andrei from Chelyabinsk 21 July 2016 19: 56
      0
      Quote: Chariton
      Guys, just think and put the "puzzle" together ...

      Do not say the word "think", it does not suit you
      Quote: Chariton
      Erdogan’s unexpected repentance (for the downed bomber), Putin suddenly disappeared (the Western media are afraid, where he is and why), then a military coup in Turkey, then Erdogan miraculously avoids death ... And then the most interesting thing about him (Erdogan) is the lists of conspirators and who directed all this ..))) FULL LIST!

      I will clarify. Unexpected, what you call "Erdogan's repentance" out of some fright. Generally speaking, we do not know what was there in the letter to Putin. Maybe repentance, maybe a commercial offer, maybe threats, maybe a hand-drawn Olympic bear. We do not know.
      This is the first. The second one. Putin orders the government to RESUME TOURIST TOURS to Turkey. Question. If Putin knew that there would be a coup, why the hell did he send Russian tourists to Turkey BEFORE the coup? Because he doesn’t care? He may not give a damn, but he’s completely stupid. If Putin knew about the coup in advance, he would simply have kept the opening of the tourist season for a short while, it was not difficult. But if, during the coup, the Russians who went on vacation to Turkey would die, it’s Putin again to hire 100500 Internet trolls to restore personal charisma, which will yell Glory to Putin’s Cunning Plan!
      So GDP knew nothing about the coup in Turkey. Nothing at all. Or he learned something at the very last moment, a few hours before the start. But he ran the first to congratulate Erdogan on a great victory ..
      That's right, cho. We have the best people in Syria die, and the president sends congratulations and wishes of all blessings to their killer. But who you are, applauding all this filth - I do not know. And I won’t guess, because all guesses are completely obscene
      1. gispanec
        gispanec 21 July 2016 20: 02
        -1
        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
        The second one. Putin orders the government to RESUME TOURIST TOURS to Turkey. Question. If Putin knew that there would be a coup, why the hell did he send Russian tourists to Turkey

        dear, I certainly wildly apologize, but to whom are you trying to explain this ?? ... this michan-hariton is frantic, not thinking (nothing) a pseudo patriot ..... he is here for the pluses .... the rest is purple to him .. . yes and loves to troll ....
        1. Khariton
          Khariton 21 July 2016 20: 20
          +2
          These are the things men ... See how they are cast out! The devils captured the site clearly ... But you are all in the trenches and are afraid to stick your head out! So in Russia, and quiet coups occur .... And then yes we, yes if! Do not be afraid of them, balabol (they know how to chat and humiliate, no words) Who are you all scared and hid! They are humiliating our country directly ...
          Oh you ..! soldier Write what you think, even if briefly, but please don’t be silent please .. Otherwise, we will permanently lose Russia! Sorry for the pathos ... I do not know how otherwise!
          Well, let's start kicking liberals .. Not the devils attacked him! soldier
          1. gispanec
            gispanec 21 July 2016 20: 30
            -5
            Quote: Chariton
            seized the site devils clearly.

            Are you talking about your friends? !!
            Quote: Chariton
            And you are all in the trenches and are afraid to stick your head out! So in Russia, and quiet coups occur ..

            exhale beaver !!
            Quote: Chariton
            They are humiliating our country directly ...

            Forgive yours, what? ... Guadeloupe? (Deputy Department. Frogs) What do you want to shed Russian blood? .. Where in the comments of humiliating Russia? wassat
            Quote: Chariton
            but please do not be silent.

            there is a curtain and .. crying
            Quote: Chariton
            Not the devils attacked!

            well damn (thieves jargon) here you are alone ...
            1. Khariton
              Khariton 21 July 2016 21: 01
              +1
              Quote: gispanec
              Quote: Chariton
              seized the site devils clearly.

              Are you talking about your friends? !!
              Quote: Chariton
              And you are all in the trenches and are afraid to stick your head out! So in Russia, and quiet coups occur ..

              exhale beaver !!
              Quote: Chariton
              They are humiliating our country directly ...

              Forgive yours, what? ... Guadeloupe? (Deputy Department. Frogs) What do you want to shed Russian blood? .. Where in the comments of humiliating Russia? wassat
              Quote: Chariton
              but please do not be silent.

              there is a curtain and .. crying
              Quote: Chariton
              Not the devils attacked!

              well damn (thieves jargon) here you are alone ...

              Israeli style of response again, with the flag of the EU ... Here they are impudent specifically on the site!
              The dog went out ... They barked here and everything is in unison the same!
              If only someone sent purely in Russian .. Everyone is smart and wriggling and the style is the same for everyone, that's the horror! The templates are solid, even there is no arguing with anyone .. Just sad to sigh!
              And I remember you Hispanic ..)))) The whiner was creepy three years ago ... Now he has become a general, your wave has gone, well, well .. bully Everyone surfaced abruptly!
              1. gispanec
                gispanec 21 July 2016 21: 32
                +2
                Quote: Chariton
                Israeli style response again, with EU flag ..

                What can I say-a stupid person and a point! the flag is the provider ... and if ufa is not it is ... then yes ... I'm in the EU
                Quote: Chariton
                The dog went out.

                when you scribble at the clave, it’s understandable ... you can be rude and openly ... impunity breeds!
                Quote: Chariton
                And I remember you Hispanic ..

                you can’t remember me, because you don’t have anything, and about stupid (unfounded) accusations, it’s a sign of mental ananism and an overwhelming redneck!
                Quote: Chariton
                Now he has become a general

                as I wrote above you are here for the pluses Troll dumbhead ...
              2. alexej123
                alexej123 21 July 2016 22: 19
                +2
                Mihai or Khariton, I can send by "hairdryer", but why? On VO people communicate who are not indifferent to the fate of their homeland. I put pluses on you and your opponents. Laughed heartily. But sometimes I want to think without laughing.
          2. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
            Andrei from Chelyabinsk 21 July 2016 21: 42
            +4
            Quote: Chariton
            These are the things men ... See how they are cast out!

            ABOUT! I recognize brother Fedya :))))
            Quote: Chariton
            The devils captured the site clearly ... But you are all in the trenches and are afraid to stick your head out!

            Why are you so merged right away? :) As soon as you tinker with your "analytics" - and you burst into tears: "Help! Rebuke good people, kill!"
            No, well, seriously, tell me in all the chilling details: if Putin knew in advance about the impending coup, then why did he instruct the government to restore tourism to Turkey? laughing
            Quote: Chariton
            Well, let's start kicking liberals .. Not the devils attacked him!

            But who will attack you? It’s not customary to offend people like you in Russia
            1. Khariton
              Khariton 21 July 2016 21: 53
              -4
              Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
              Quote: Chariton
              These are the things men ... See how they are cast out!

              ABOUT! I recognize brother Fedya :))))
              Quote: Chariton
              The devils captured the site clearly ... But you are all in the trenches and are afraid to stick your head out!

              Why are you so merged right away? :) As soon as you tinker with your "analytics" - and you burst into tears: "Help! Rebuke good people, kill!"
              No, well, seriously, tell me in all the chilling details: if Putin knew in advance about the impending coup, then why did he instruct the government to restore tourism to Turkey? laughing
              Quote: Chariton
              Well, let's start kicking liberals .. Not the devils attacked him!

              But who will attack you? It’s not customary to offend people like you in Russia

              They’ve climbed out ... Marshal, I don’t even remember this from 11 years old! Where did they all come up ..? hi And so it was in the 90s ...
        2. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
          Andrei from Chelyabinsk 21 July 2016 21: 54
          +4
          Quote: gispanec
          Dear, I certainly wildly apologize, but to whom are you trying to explain this ??

          Well, not for him :)) It's just funny to watch how such figures merge, you just have to give them some kind of argument that contradicts their nonsense. And we are still laughing at Klitschko ...
      2. Turkir
        Turkir 21 July 2016 20: 16
        +2
        You are a good analyst. Make friends with the logic.
        1. Khariton
          Khariton 21 July 2016 20: 52
          -4
          Well, that's how they clearly work ... I call the "Israeli" style, snatch words to ridicule and humiliate Russia! Well done .. And you guys continue to sit in the trenches .. Are you afraid? I, too, on the verge .. I will fasten my teeth and write! Let it be clumsy, these trained balabols cannot be argued for anyone! I just write (as they say in the Navy, the demonstration of the flag in the world's oceans))) The site of the devils was crushed clearly, but oh well I will fight as long as I have enough strength .. The gentlemen did not attack that one! Eh men men ...
          1. Kos_kalinki9
            Kos_kalinki9 21 July 2016 22: 36
            +4
            Mikhan, you’re carrying heresy again. Are you tired of it? Why the hell is the site clogging up with worthless rubbish?
      3. bk316
        bk316 21 July 2016 21: 33
        +4
        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
        found out at the very last moment in a few hours before the beginning.

        And this is enough, sometimes half an hour is enough.
        1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
          Andrei from Chelyabinsk 22 July 2016 00: 17
          +1
          You see, what’s the matter - what do we know about these putschists? We don’t know anything. What were they going to do after they threw Erdogan off? There’s no way to find the truth in the press now, Erdogan will water all the dirt that he can think of. But this does not mean that the putschists are virtuous lambs in white. Who knows where they are going to deploy Turkey?
          I do not exclude that for the good of not only Turkey, but the whole East it would be better for Erdogan to remain in power, and not the coupists came to her. I don’t affirm, because we don’t know anything about the rebels, but it’s quite ready to allow such a thing. And then Putin’s actions have some sense, I mean, useful for our country, because it may be easier to support Erdogan than a year later another VKS operation is carried out, only not in Syria, but in Turkey.
          In general, despite my age, I still believe in fairy tales :)))
          But when such ... loyal subjects as this chariton, who, because the sun has risen in the morning, is ready to sing "Hare Putin" until the night, throw out such ... loyal subjects, while making four mistakes in the word "Hare" ...
          Quote: bk316
          And this is enough, sometimes half an hour is enough.

          In general, yes, it’s as if Erdogan was almost seized, he literally slightly ahead of the rebels
  13. Sergey333
    Sergey333 21 July 2016 19: 18
    +2
    It’s good that the enemies themselves reduced each other in quantity, it’s a pity that everything ended so quickly.
    1. samoletil18
      samoletil18 21 July 2016 22: 58
      +2
      Quote: Sergey333
      It’s good that the enemies themselves reduced each other in quantity, it’s a pity that everything ended so quickly.

      Well, how simple it is! If it is in Mexico or Canada, it is yes. But under our borders, I would not really like a civil war in a country with a multimillion population.
      On the other hand, there is a small, but still a chance to knock Turkey out of NATO. Act as a mediator in reaching a compromise on the Kurdish issue. Yes, a lot of other things that you can. A small historical example: Turkey was the first buyer of Soviet armored vehicles.
  14. then
    then 21 July 2016 19: 26
    0
    Is it all about Sun Tzu?
  15. grandfather Mih
    grandfather Mih 21 July 2016 19: 27
    +2
    The Yankees will surprise the Turks: what happened to you? And - "help in putting things in order" urgently. 50 years old - template. Ugh. So not interesting.
  16. OST_51RU
    OST_51RU 21 July 2016 19: 43
    0
    Quote: Chariton
    Guys, just think and put the "puzzle" together ...
    Erdogan’s unexpected repentance (for the downed bomber), Putin suddenly disappeared (the Western media are afraid, where he is and why), then a military coup in Turkey, then Erdogan miraculously avoids death ... And then the most interesting thing about him (Erdogan) is the lists of conspirators and who directed all this ..))) FULL LIST!
    The US and the EU (Israel is also quietly involved only ..)) are unhappy and demand to observe "human rights" in Turkey! Putin was the first to support and congratulate Erdogan in suppressing the putsch ...
    At the beginning of August, a meeting between Erdogan and Putin is planned on the territory of Russia (I hope it will be Crimea))) Coincidence? I don’t think .... The brilliant operation of GDP! I hope Erdogan does not get off the hook, he’s a cool man, and you need to be careful with him ...
    These are the evening thoughts ..))))) I look forward to cons! hi


    Yes, and Erdogan himself, it turns out, is such a cutie, pink and fluffy .... and the world wars are not fired by Erdogans, Napoleons and Hitlers but stupid secretaries and janitors .... lol
    "The decision to shoot down the Russian Su-24 was made by the Turkish pilot personally."
    [media = http: //warfiles.ru/show-124037-reshenie-sbit-rossiyskiy-su-24-bylo-prinya
    to-tureckim-pilotom-lichno.html]
  17. Khariton
    Khariton 21 July 2016 19: 59
    -1
    Quote: Ost_51RU
    Quote: Chariton
    Guys, just think and put the "puzzle" together ...
    Erdogan’s unexpected repentance (for the downed bomber), Putin suddenly disappeared (the Western media are afraid, where he is and why), then a military coup in Turkey, then Erdogan miraculously avoids death ... And then the most interesting thing about him (Erdogan) is the lists of conspirators and who directed all this ..))) FULL LIST!
    The US and the EU (Israel is also quietly involved only ..)) are unhappy and demand to observe "human rights" in Turkey! Putin was the first to support and congratulate Erdogan in suppressing the putsch ...
    At the beginning of August, a meeting between Erdogan and Putin is planned on the territory of Russia (I hope it will be Crimea))) Coincidence? I don’t think .... The brilliant operation of GDP! I hope Erdogan does not get off the hook, he’s a cool man, and you need to be careful with him ...
    These are the evening thoughts ..))))) I look forward to cons! hi


    Yes, and Erdogan himself, it turns out, is such a cutie, pink and fluffy .... and the world wars are not fired by Erdogans, Napoleons and Hitlers but stupid secretaries and janitors .... lol
    "The decision to shoot down the Russian Su-24 was made by the Turkish pilot personally."
    [media = http: //warfiles.ru/show-124037-reshenie-sbit-rossiyskiy-su-24-bylo-prinya
    to-tureckim-pilotom-lichno.html]

    I do not like forum users with nicknames in English ... They are muddy (not all of course) Well, what did you write now ..? Think of someone as a hint .. I rarely read links to websites (you usually have ads here ..)))
    Ottomans have avenged our pilot and will take revenge ...!
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  19. Peacemaker
    Peacemaker 21 July 2016 20: 05
    +1
    Enemies are sitting at the chessboards. And those that killed pawns. In addition to the sick Islamic Islamists, ordinary adequate people live there.
  20. Bort radist
    Bort radist 21 July 2016 20: 22
    0
    TVNZ. "MP, Yasin Aktay, said that the pilot who shot down the SU-24 made the decision on his own."
    http://www.kp.ru/online/news/2458071/
    It remains for the pilot to die when trying to escape or from a heart attack. Two-way.
  21. Grigorievich
    Grigorievich 21 July 2016 20: 34
    +3
    Turkish forces were crushed, this is the first failed military coup.
    Well now, maybe not up to Syria.
    1. Khariton
      Khariton 21 July 2016 21: 13
      -5
      Quote: Grigorievich
      Turkish forces were crushed, this is the first failed military coup.
      Well now, maybe not up to Syria.

      The moment you need to catch and soak the devils in Syria with a powerful blow, until the west has recovered ..! Borders to close and dig in .. It is difficult of course, but it is possible ...
      1. gispanec
        gispanec 21 July 2016 21: 33
        +6
        Quote: Chariton
        The moment you need to catch and water the devils in Syria with a powerful blow

        so coolie are you sitting on an eggplant? ... go and urine in one stroke ... with a run ...
    2. iouris
      iouris 21 July 2016 21: 36
      0
      Quote: Grigorievich
      Turkish forces were crushed, this is the first failed military coup.

      In August 1991, an imitation of a coup with the participation of army units took place in the USSR. I would not begin to evaluate the professionalism of the army based on the results of these events.
      I think Erdogan was very lucky, but, on the other hand, he succeeded, playing in the interests of major players, in conducting an Islamist counter-revolution in Turkey. As a politician of a certain kind, Erdogan is quite successful. At this point, the coup seems to be crushed. If Turkey does not leave NATO, then on the terms of Erdogan. If it does, then what will be the foreign policy of Turkey? Rapprochement of Turkey with Iran or the Russian Federation? - These are two big differences. Insulation? - For Turkey, this is impossible.
      I would appreciate the professionalism of the military, participants in the conspiracy.
      Firstly, only an insignificant part of the Turkish Air Force took part in active offensive operations, and not the entire army. Secondly, the cadres speak for themselves: they acted at night, set point targets located in cities under dense development were subjected to air strikes.
      I think that this story will not end there. Especially if there is a nuclear weapon at the Ingerlik base.
  22. Hunt
    Hunt 21 July 2016 21: 11
    0
    Sow the wind, reap the storm. Without a doubt, the Turkish army will become weaker. Losses in aviation, possibly in the navy and, most importantly, in command personnel are in Russia's hands. Well, they are not friends to us! If our special services are somehow involved in this, then the participants should be adequately rewarded. Let the motherland not recognize its heroes.
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  24. Khariton
    Khariton 21 July 2016 21: 19
    -3
    I think the Donbass will begin to attack, in order to prevent the rapprochement between Russia and Turkey ... Bandera very actively shoot the scum squares! Do not really climb ..?
    1. gispanec
      gispanec 21 July 2016 21: 34
      +1
      Quote: Chariton
      I think Donbass will begin to attack

      thought for a long time before farting?
  25. acetophenon
    acetophenon 21 July 2016 21: 28
    0
    Interestingly, can you somehow wean people when shooting a smartphone to keep it upright?
    Or is it not being treated?
    1. samoletil18
      samoletil18 21 July 2016 23: 09
      0
      My first hundredth with a camera had a square, not 16: 9 screen. So then it didn’t matter, and vertical shooting was more convenient to watch.
  26. geroirossii
    geroirossii 21 July 2016 21: 32
    0
    all dictatorial regimes go through something similar in my opinion and this awaits us
    1. Khariton
      Khariton 21 July 2016 21: 58
      0
      Quote: geroirossii
      all dictatorial regimes go through something similar in my opinion and this awaits us

      Here is another future marshal to help you ... bully
    2. samoletil18
      samoletil18 21 July 2016 23: 10
      +2
      Quote: geroirossii
      all dictatorial regimes go through something similar in my opinion and this awaits us

      In Romania?
  27. passenger
    passenger 21 July 2016 22: 41
    +1
    Quote: geroirossii
    all dictatorial regimes go through something similar in my opinion and this awaits us

    By the flag you are from Romania. Those. in another NATO member country should a coup be expected?
  28. savage1976
    savage1976 22 July 2016 01: 18
    +1
    It is interesting to note that one of the insurgents piloting the rebel F-16 was the pilot who shot down a Russian Su-24 that violated Turkish airspace in November 2015. "

    Am I missing something? Our plane then violated the border of Turkey? Or do we get this new story so unobtrusively?
  29. Wolka
    Wolka 22 July 2016 05: 25
    0
    the Yankees are spinning a multi-way, Turkey has already cut off a hunk in the game, she will not be able to seriously intervene in the process, she just needs to disentangle her for a long time, we are waiting for the next freaks from Ukraine and Syria, apparently everything will start with the beginning of the Olympic Games in Rio (Georgian script 2008).