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Media: С-500 SAMs will be shown on the Army-2016 forum

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The newest anti-aircraft complex C-500 "Prometheus" will demonstrate at the military-technical forum "Army-2016", reports Rossiyskaya Gazeta message Rambler News.




“The work on the system entered the home straight. Its results will be demonstrated for the first time at the Army forum. The main difference between the C-500 is the ability to shoot down warheads of medium-range ballistic missiles and even intercontinental missiles ",
told the agency a source in the defense industry.

According to him, it has not yet been decided whether “Prometheus will be shown in the open part of the exhibition or will be shown only to the highest military leadership.”

Help of the newspaper: “The C-500 anti-aircraft missile system is being developed by the Almaz-Antey Air Defense Concern since 2010 and entered the testing phase. Prometheus is the world's first anti-aircraft system capable of destroying objects flying at hypersonic speeds. It applies the separate principle of intercepting ballistic and aerodynamic targets. ”
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  1. Same lech
    Same lech 20 July 2016 13: 19
    +14
    The latest S-500 Prometheus anti-aircraft system will be demonstrated at the Armi-2016 military-technical forum, Rambler News reports.


    Real sample or layout?

    Very quickly, however, work is ongoing with Prometheus ... the name given to this complex

    not bad ... sounds.
    1. vkl.47
      vkl.47 20 July 2016 13: 29
      +7
      it’s all about the stuffing. It looks like it’s not very different from the 400s. It’s somehow lit up about a year and a half ago in the workshop. Moreover, even then there was an option with an Arctic coloring
      1. cniza
        cniza 20 July 2016 13: 41
        +8
        According to him, it has not yet been decided whether “Prometheus will be shown in the open part of the exhibition or will be shown only to the highest military leadership.”


        Probably, they will secret and warm up interest to unattainable heights, let the adversaries be afraid.
        1. HERMES
          HERMES 20 July 2016 15: 50
          +7
          Here are the C-500 mockups ... probably made for this exhibition.
          Chassis BAZ.
          As you can see, the dimensions of the rocket will greatly increase. I really want to see this device ...


          1. Dryuya2
            Dryuya2 20 July 2016 20: 59
            +1
            Quote: HERMES
            I'd like to see this device ...

            if the exhibition is good
            ======
            barmaley in Aleppo won what gifts for "viewing winked "
            send
            1. You Vlad
              You Vlad 23 July 2016 01: 55
              0
              It’s not too bad to see Bormoleli earns money in Ekovsky boots) Well, in the next world money will not come in handy!
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          3. 11 black
            11 black 22 July 2016 17: 33
            0
            Quote: HERMES
            Here are the C-500 mockups ... probably made for this exhibition.
            Chassis BAZ.
            As you can see, the dimensions of the rocket will greatly increase. I really want to see this device ...

            It looks more like "Nudol"



            Although C-500’s missiles are certainly huge, so maybe he’ll see.



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      3. Max40
        Max40 20 July 2016 14: 13
        +1
        Can I have a link or a photo, please?
      4. Alex777
        Alex777 20 July 2016 15: 29
        +3
        Quote: vkl.47
        it’s all about the stuffing. It looks like it’s not very different from the 400s. It’s somehow lit up about a year and a half ago in the workshop. Moreover, even then there was an option with an Arctic coloring

        Very different. If only because the missiles are not 4, but 2.
    2. Muvka
      Muvka 20 July 2016 13: 30
      +1
      Quote: The same Lech
      The latest S-500 Prometheus anti-aircraft system will be demonstrated at the Armi-2016 military-technical forum, Rambler News reports.


      Real sample or layout?

      Very quickly, however, work is ongoing with Prometheus ... the name given to this complex

      not bad ... sounds.

      It is unlikely that the layout will be shown in closed mode to the top military leadership.
    3. Berkut24
      Berkut24 20 July 2016 13: 58
      +4
      It all happens quickly on a piece of paper. S-500 has been doing for many years. In 2011, they just finished the preliminary design. With a long-range missile, the torment was generally inhuman. Money and sweat designers spilled there a lot.
    4. Wiruz
      Wiruz 20 July 2016 14: 19
      +4
      Yes, even if in the form of a model they would show, the main thing is that it will be a model from the official representative of the military department. And they’ve already completely confused, or they say that the main task of the completely new S-500 complex will be the destruction of warheads and objects in near space; that it will only be a strong modernization of the S-400 with the ability to shoot down ICBM warheads. Finally mixed the cards information that in parallel with the S-500 work is underway on the mobile version of the A-235 request
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 23 July 2016 01: 27
        +1
        Quote: Wiruz
        And they’ve already completely confused, or they say that the main task of the completely new S-500 complex will be the destruction of warheads and objects in near space; that it will only be a strong modernization of the S-400 with the ability to shoot down ICBM warheads.

        The main objective of Prometheus is the near space and the fight against hyper-speed targets such as ICBM warheads. The S-400 is focused on the fight against stealth targets, ICBMs and, possibly, the warheads of these ICBMs.
        Quote: Wiruz
        Finally mixed the cards information that in parallel with the S-500 work is underway on the mobile version of the A-235

        Prometheus and Nudol are different complexes. Nudol has a longer "arm", that is, the same near space but higher, in other words, plus, again, the fight against the enemy's ICBMs.
    5. hirurg
      hirurg 20 July 2016 15: 06
      +1
      Prometheus.
      There is a fire for "light" for everyone.
      And for the "liver" you can not be afraid - a new one will grow.)))
    6. Alexey-74
      Alexey-74 21 July 2016 08: 23
      +1
      The news is good, our people are in a hurry ... it is necessary to create a "no-fly zone for all outsiders" over Russia. S-300, S-400, S-500 - this is a very serious argument for NATO and the United States
  2. Vadim237
    Vadim237 20 July 2016 13: 22
    +6
    "Prometheus is the world's first anti-aircraft system capable of destroying objects flying at hypersonic speeds." - Far from being the first, the first anti-aircraft system, in our country, capable of intercepting hypersonic targets was the C 200.
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 20 July 2016 14: 35
      0
      SM-3, again hi
      1. Tektor
        Tektor 20 July 2016 16: 55
        +1
        SM-3 was supposed to go at a specific time to a specific calculated point in space, and in space above 150 km there were no problems with handling, i.e. communication, no! All hypersonic problems are located at altitudes below 100 km.
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 20 July 2016 20: 42
        +1
        And also the THAAD missile defense system - the maximum speed of intercepted targets is 2800 meters per second.
      3. NEXUS
        NEXUS 23 July 2016 01: 31
        +1
        Quote: Wiruz
        SM-3, again hi

        SM-3 is unlikely to work for a hyper-speed target; the standard is capable of intercepting the same Topol only on the booster section, therefore their destroyers are clinging to our shores and therefore the same YRSs, and especially Borderlands, the booster section is much smaller than that of Topol.
  3. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 20 July 2016 13: 23
    +2
    It’s time to demonstrate ... especially since there is something to be proud of ... conversations with conversations BUT it’s better to see firsthand
    And of course you need to show the complete set ... and preferably also with attached means (for example, the Shell integrates well into the control system) ... to complete the picture))
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 20 July 2016 16: 42
      +2
      Quote: silberwolf88
      It’s time to demonstrate ... especially since there is something to be proud of ... conversations with conversations BUT it’s better to see firsthand

      About how!
      This is necessary so that the combat units of the attacking ICBMs and infantry ballistic missiles were shot down in front of an amazed audience !!! Or, over 400-500 km from the launch site, fill up the E-3C ... Let me ask: how do you imagine all this outside the training ground?
      So they will put the hardware on the stage of the show and will convince the management that this is the very thing and "the most" yet! Well, and in confirmation of what was said, as always, the film will be shown.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 20 July 2016 16: 54
        -1
        At the training ground, everything will become clear and understandable - with a full report to the management.
  4. gispanec
    gispanec 20 July 2016 13: 23
    +2
    Quote: The same LYOKHA
    Very quickly, however, work is ongoing with Prometheus

    there are still problems with the long arm ... everyone is teaching her to fly .... maybe it’s really coming to an end
  5. Wolka
    Wolka 20 July 2016 13: 23
    -2
    it’s the same as with armature, so they decided to show for themselves, albeit a crude, but real sample, yes, it became difficult to keep secrets, it is almost impossible, spies are everywhere ...
  6. ydjin
    ydjin 20 July 2016 13: 25
    -1
    Our security depends on the availability of combat systems capable of multiplying by 0 the means of attack of our worst friends, so we have more complexes! The most perfect and diverse!
  7. chuma_velikiy
    chuma_velikiy 20 July 2016 13: 27
    -1
    Just Fire!
  8. ydjin
    ydjin 20 July 2016 13: 30
    0
    I’m glad with the results of our military-industrial complex, but we need even better! Thanks to our designers and engineers!
  9. masiya
    masiya 20 July 2016 13: 36
    +1
    If the S-500 is already being demonstrated at the exhibition, then it means that something is already newer in the development, isn't it?
    1. st25310
      st25310 20 July 2016 13: 47
      +5
      Mickey Mouse tore off his nose. The military will have to come up with a new nickname.
    2. Terner38
      Terner38 20 July 2016 14: 27
      -1
      Newer is perhaps only an energy dome as in "Star Wars" or "Harry Potter".
  10. agfa
    agfa 20 July 2016 13: 39
    +4
    You (the Almaz-Antey air defense concern) will bring the topic "Polyment-Redut" to mind for Project 22350, otherwise they have missiles lying around for 3 seconds. And these are 9m96e2 brought on the "shore" !!! And here again they made the s-500 according to the "plan", like the s-350 "Vityaz" - where are they? Finish !? Even in this article about 2010, the year the tests began, they write - Is this 6 years of TESTING? And now they will only show SOMEONE at the top of the inscription on the S-500 container. Invite the LEADERSHIP OF THE COUNTRY to the POLYGON and report, and how it will look like FUCK ... WIN, it is clear that you are not doing a fig leaf, but in the Navy - SHAME! Repetition of pr.956-1155 on SAMs, when they "walked naked". Repetition of the past, but at a new stage
    1. satelit24
      satelit24 20 July 2016 13: 58
      0
      My friend agfa, why do you break the pink-eyed generals a high sad
      1. dali
        dali 20 July 2016 14: 29
        +2
        Quote: satelit24
        My friend agfa, why do you break the pink-eyed generals a high


        The satellite (whose only interesting ...) is well informed about the affairs of Almaz-Antey? You know everything, and then you probably work there?

        Or maybe you are participating in the development of the S-350, S-400 and S-500 ... aw ... where did the firewood come from, that is, information?

        If not, then you and agfa are just talkers who hear the ringing, but don’t know where it is! laughing
        1. satelit24
          satelit24 20 July 2016 14: 53
          -7
          I just prefer to hold a sparrow in my hand than a crane in the sky! (they talk a lot, and specifically, Nehera doesn’t get into the army) at the exhibition they will show and immediately squeeze articles, they say what good fellows we are recourse
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      2. ydjin
        ydjin 20 July 2016 15: 28
        -2
        Are you up to date with satelit24? YOU'RE GOOD TO PUSH A REAR HOLE, but what about the case? Troll you are simple.
        1. guzik007
          guzik007 20 July 2016 17: 39
          +3
          Are you up to date with satelit24? YOU'RE GOOD TO PUSH A REAR HOLE, but what about the case? Troll you are simple.
          -------------------------
          Before insulting people, ask where infa comes from? So here is the morning info about Almaz-antey and its falling missiles in parallel news. But this campaign is not interesting for you, it’s more interesting for you to puff h. hole itself towards a colleague.
    2. ferdiperdozzz
      ferdiperdozzz 20 July 2016 14: 08
      0
      Ege hand over and learn to write in Russian. At least.
    3. Vadim237
      Vadim237 20 July 2016 14: 27
      0
      We have a long-range missile, a firing range of 400 kilometers, and the C 400 complex was adopted only last year - 8 years after the start of mass production of air defense systems.
      1. gispanec
        gispanec 21 July 2016 09: 25
        0
        Quote: Vadim237
        We have a long-range missile, a firing range of 400 kilometers, and the C 400 complex was adopted only last year -

        for sure, it just doesn’t fly 400 km .... in fact it doesn’t work .... well, if it's just like a pipe it flies ....
    4. DarkMatter
      DarkMatter 21 July 2016 00: 18
      0
      In fact, my first thoughts when opening this article were about the S-350, too.
      Everyone does and does, here about the end of the year this promise was, wait, sir love
      And, in general, I probably agree with Agfa, it’s just that the person seemed to feel pain, so he wrote so hotly)

      And about knowledge, it's you in vain. All information is available (well, maybe not all, but there is).
      For example, Moscow, July 15, 2016, from a speech by Anatoly Gulyaev, head of the armament main department of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation:
      The head frigate of project 22350 is planned to be transferred to the Russian Navy in November 2016, however, there are currently problems with anti-aircraft systems for such ships. So far, no positive result has been received on the Polyment-Redut topic from the use of anti-aircraft guided missiles developed by the Fakel enterprise, designed to equip project 20380 corvettes and 22350 frigates.
  11. zoknyay82
    zoknyay82 20 July 2016 13: 39
    -1
    Great news! Rumors about the departure of ALL scientists and specialists abroad are greatly exaggerated.
  12. iliya87
    iliya87 20 July 2016 14: 03
    +13
    Soon it will be possible to put the S-400 up for sale, oh, it will bake one place for our friends))
  13. Muvka
    Muvka 20 July 2016 14: 13
    +4
    Quote: agfa
    You (the Almaz-Antey air defense concern) will bring the topic "Polyment-Redut" to mind for Project 22350, otherwise they have missiles lying around for 3 seconds. And these are 9m96e2 brought on the "shore" !!! And here again they made the s-500 according to the "plan", like the s-350 "Vityaz" - where are they? Finish !? Even in this article about 2010, the year the tests began, they write - Is this 6 years of TESTING? And now they will only show SOMEONE at the top of the inscription on the S-500 container. Invite the LEADERSHIP OF THE COUNTRY to the POLYGON and report, and how it will look like FUCK ... WIN, it is clear that you are not doing a fig leaf, but in the Navy - SHAME! Repetition of pr.956-1155 on SAMs, when they "walked naked". Repetition of the past, but at a new stage

    In August 2011, the preliminary design phase was completed, and technical design continues. According to the commander of the East Kazakhstan region, Major General Alexander Golovko, in November 2013 OJSC Almaz-Antey Air Defense Concern OJSC, the developer of the above system, had already manufactured individual system facilities and started testing them.
    What are the tests in 2010? At the end of 13 years, only tests of individual nodes.
  14. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 20 July 2016 14: 17
    0
    Well, adversaries? Will you "Wow!"
  15. Wildfox
    Wildfox 20 July 2016 14: 34
    0
    Quote: Muvka
    What are the tests in 2010? At the end of 13 years, only tests of individual nodes.

    I think of materials. and details. It is not in vain that they call it a complex, and everything new is tested from nuts on wheels (if they are not standardized) to antennas of all kinds and reels, and only then lifting units, electronic units, and all this together.
    Agree, it would be stupid if on a missile launch test the tractor is topped on one side? hi
  16. cheburator
    cheburator 20 July 2016 14: 51
    -1
    Well, sooo good news! Keep it up! soldier good fellow
  17. agfa
    agfa 20 July 2016 14: 52
    +1
    I'm not showing off! It’s just a shame that the "shapkozakidatelstvo" lives in the country. Why show a fence on which something is written (s-500? In this case) and arrange a buffet table -PILILOVO continue. Here is the news that "yesterday a successful test of the s-500 was carried out at all types of ranges and altitudes of use" and further that the complex is being fine-tuned - that would be more inspiring. And so you can write that the Government will be shown the edge of the galaxy TOMORROW and all over again - WOW, you have to, wow !!!! There is movement but no progress, why talk about it (the principle of the condom) ???
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 20 July 2016 16: 25
      +3
      Quote: agfa
      and all again - Wow, you have to, wow !!!! There is movement and no progress, why talk about it (condom principle) ???

      Military-technical shows are held quietly, in a businesslike way, with a concrete approach to solving emerging problems (add money, increase capacity, tighten software to related products, etc.).
      And here - elections are on the nose. It is necessary to convince the electorate of the "correctness of the course of the edrosov." This is time.
      Show that sanctions do not care for us - these are two.
      And thirdly, to cry over the lack of funds, the old production base (although a new plant was built for this project!), And so on.
      Apparently, the amam also want to say: "Guys, let's live together!" And it won't hurt to strengthen our partners / allies in the faith about our defense capabilities.
      So, the military-political PR action is planned to be around.
      1. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 20 July 2016 17: 52
        +4
        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        So, the military-political PR action is planned to be around.

        So why not? Just on the next branch, the amerovskie tests of the ship for explosion resistance have now been dismantled. They arranged an earthquake with a magnitude of three points. And the mattresses, naturally, said that the results exceeded expectations (well, like an ad in the toilet: "if the results exceeded expectations, use a brush"). And I noticed that ours in terms of PR technologies still have to learn and learn. Now I see that they are learning, and very well. Also part of the info-war. hi
    2. Alex_Tug
      Alex_Tug 20 July 2016 19: 00
      0
      Here is the news that "yesterday a successful test of the s-500 was carried out at all types of ranges and altitudes of use" and further that the complex is being fine-tuned - that would be more inspiring. And so you can write that the Government will be shown the edge of the galaxy TOMORROW and all over again


      - Maybe they tested a computer model yesterday?
      - And the "death star" is not being designed?
  18. xant
    xant 20 July 2016 15: 04
    +4
    according to the state defense order until 20, 10 divisions should be delivered starting from 15, it seems, but here with these shifts to the right they have completely confused. what is it worth so I think they will have time!
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 20 July 2016 16: 57
      0
      All ten divisions will be placed around Moscow, in addition to A 235.
  19. agfa
    agfa 20 July 2016 15: 07
    +2
    Quote: Dali
    Quote: satelit24
    My friend agfa, why do you break the pink-eyed generals a high


    The satellite (whose only interesting ...) is well informed about the affairs of Almaz-Antey? You know everything, and then you probably work there?

    Or maybe you are participating in the development of the S-350, S-400 and S-500 ... aw ... where did the firewood come from, that is, information?

    If not, then you and agfa are just talkers who hear the ringing, but don’t know where it is! laughing


    Dear, hold your horses. I see you know "a lot". what I know, but I can’t print, you naturally will not be able to find out, but what I have already written is only from the SCREEN of our own media lately. And my post was aimed at avoiding PRESENTATIONS FOR PRESENTATIONS, this is again our money. Or do you live in another homeland? And putting into service and subsequent presentations are already really WEAPONS - this is part of the FOCUS on its sale. And now it is too early ... WRITE
    1. dali
      dali 20 July 2016 15: 29
      0
      Quote: agfa
      Dear, hold the horses.


      And here is the answer ... both about 2010 and about our-your money ... and about presentations (which by the way, are also needed, including to the public, including the not very knowledgeable ... psychological warfare By the way, no one canceled ...)

      Quote: Muvka
      In August 2011, the preliminary design phase was completed, and technical design continues. According to the commander of the East Kazakhstan region, Major General Alexander Golovko, in November 2013 OJSC Almaz-Antey Air Defense Concern OJSC, the developer of the above system, had already manufactured individual system facilities and started testing them.
      What are the tests in 2010? At the end of 13 years, only tests of individual nodes.


      If all this is not clear to you, then I'm sorry ...
  20. skrabplus.ru
    skrabplus.ru 20 July 2016 15: 23
    0
    Quote: vkl.47
    it’s all about the stuffing. It looks like it’s not very different from the 400s. It’s somehow lit up about a year and a half ago in the workshop. Moreover, even then there was an option with an Arctic coloring

    very lit up during, and now very handy!
  21. cedar
    cedar 20 July 2016 17: 22
    +2
    Quote: xant
    according to the state defense order until 20, 10 divisions should be delivered starting from 15, it seems, but here with these shifts to the right they have completely confused. what is it worth so I think they will have time!


    It is necessary, it is very necessary to be in time. A military thunderstorm is coming, its peals and flashes only the deaf and blind do not see and do not understand, and what a blow it is to Russia!
    I agree with competent people who say that the danger now is far greater than the Nazi invasion in 1941 ...
    In fact, we now have 1941, June, but it is still not clear yet 1 or already the 21st date ...
    1. Makk
      Makk 20 July 2016 20: 37
      0
      It is necessary, it is very necessary to be in time. A military thunderstorm is coming, its peals and flashes only the deaf and blind do not see and do not understand, and what a blow it is to Russia!

      Who are you going to fight with? Deaf, blind and apparently ... miserable do not see that our industry is completely dependent on Western equipment and tools.
      I agree with competent people who say that the danger now is far greater than the Nazi invasion in 1941 ...

      I agree about the danger, but I would only compare it not with 1941, but with 1991, but the danger is now much greater.
      In fact, we now have 1941, June, but it is still not clear yet 1 or already the 21st date ...

      According to the FACT, we have now July, 2016 .... The 20th number is 100% information.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 20 July 2016 20: 46
      -1
      As long as Russia has ICBMs with nuclear warheads, we are not in any serious danger.
      1. Anglorussian
        Anglorussian 21 July 2016 00: 34
        +1
        As long as Russia has ICBMs with nuclear warheads, we are not in any serious danger.
        They thought the same in the Soviet Union.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 22 July 2016 23: 26
          0
          The Soviet Union disappeared due to perestroika, and not because of hostilities.
  22. Alex von Dorn
    Alex von Dorn 22 July 2016 08: 24
    0
    Great, efficient work. Have a good start!
  23. Illiterate
    Illiterate 23 July 2016 00: 59
    0
    The Prometheus is the world's first anti-aircraft system capable of destroying objects flying at hypersonic speeds. It uses a separate principle of intercepting ballistic and aerodynamic targets. "It is always good that there is a measure of counteraction against what is not yet massively applied.
  24. Jean gray
    Jean gray 23 July 2016 04: 28
    +1
    Seeing the effectiveness (effectiveness?) Of campaigning in Syria and Iraq through the leaflets "Your business is lost - Surrender!" NATO in Europe ordered two runs in French and British printing houses: 75 million and 125 million of the same leaflets ... in Russian o_O ”And they are not preparing to attack Russia suddenly and treacherously? They will find a reason - the CIA staged 19 brainstorming sessions on the topic “the right information company before, during and after WW3” And that’s all for three months! Together with Rowling and other writers (under their patronage), the CIA and the NSA began to use the work of poor network writers in the genre of alternative history to create believable-looking lies and slander about Russia and its History, including the Great Patriotic War. That is, these writers in the alternative history genre, together with British historians, are now creating new textbooks, which they will study in Ukraine, including ... I’m sure NATO will not go bankrupt, one tomahawk missile with a ton of explosives costs more than a million books at 200 p. average.
  25. Jean gray
    Jean gray 23 July 2016 04: 29
    +1
    Ian-like-him-there (NATO) in a personal hacked correspondence with college friends almost confessed - the French airliner lit up on the radar of an unconfigured new missile defense system in Romania, and they shot him down, thinking that this was a “target from the Adriatic” (test launches , lol) ... And at this time, Britain hypocritically lowers the degree of anti-Russian rhetoric in its media, although it was it that was most affected by the return of Crimea, let us recall the Crimean War between the Russian Empire and the British. And it is precisely the British political, financial, intellectual, scientific and other elite that finances anti-Russian hysteria in the xenophobic, fascist school curriculum of the Baltic states, nationalist Poland, which dreams of reviving the German Reich, even the Czech Republic, France, up to Japan. Here is cowardice! Hypocrisy. And it should be noted - self-interest and reckoning, Britain accumulates trillions at home, fleeing with oligarchs from the Russian Federation and is proud of publicly in the media how much it earns by robbing, helping to rob the Russian people and being an accomplice to these crimes both at the level of banks, the media, and political elite.
  26. Jean gray
    Jean gray 23 July 2016 04: 30
    0
    I would take out the phrase “international sanctions”, because this is a typical British substitution of concepts, it would be more correct: "the economic and political and informational aggression of NATO and the Western elite against Russia, accompanied by provocations, infanticide, slander and distortion of both historical and current truth." The American elite believes: “until Putin is in power, the sanctions will not be lifted, but we'll see”, a quote from behind-the-scenes communication of 2,5 oligarch politicians via messengers on iPhones, intercepted by the NSA, who have an agreement with Apple on transfer, at that time like the CIA does not have it, because two world-class English-speaking elites split in contradictions own one: the NSA with the FBI, and the second the CIA and MI-6, respectively, but both benefit in their struggle for power in the United States, not a country, but a brand of the world oligarchy, Use Russia as Horror Story N1 and a ram of the average man’s minds. The CIA does not want the NSA’s Snowden’s merger to become more powerful and move their office, because they essentially serve “one country (?) But different elites”, I’ll add on my own: the USA is not a country, but a place where money makes money, and the biggest offshore , and the largest prison on the planet, every third American is a prisoner.