Another special operation in Almaty

Disturbing news once again come from Kazakhstan. If on the eve of the representatives of the authorities of the republic announced that the red level of the terrorist threat was removed, the criminal who attacked the police officers was detained and that he carried out the attacks without accomplices, then today the Kazakh police are again involved in a special operation.

According to the Kazakh media, a special operation is being conducted in the center of Almaty - in the area of ​​Gogol, Zenkov, Makatayev and Abdullins streets. The Department of the Interior distributes reports of operational investigative activities.

To the place of the operation, the forces of the National Guard of the Republic of Kazakhstan and military equipment were tightened. Residents of houses located in the area of ​​special events were evacuated.

The soldiers of the National Guard cordoned off the Green Bazaar, Rakhat factory. Office staff members were asked not to leave their seats. It is reported by the Kazakhstan information portal. Nur.kz.

Approximately 2 hours after the start of the operation, the Kazakh authorities reported that it was completed. At the same time, it was announced that “the information of a criminal nature was not confirmed”. At the same time, an appeal was issued to citizens, in which it was not recommended to those who publish messages of a “panic nature” and “remain calm”. In fact, calm was obviously not easy for the residents of the center of Almaty, as they saw armored vehicles and armed soldiers on the streets.

Today it became known that the authorities of Turkmenistan decided to temporarily close the border with Kazakhstan. For a period of 5 days, the entry into the Turkmen territory for foreign citizens is denied through the Kazakh section of the border.

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[Teberii]

You write beautiful people who will be next in line, and events have already gone their own way.

[SSR]

Quote: Teberii

You write beautiful people who will be next in line, and events have already gone their own way.

Kazakhstan has long had trouble with army men, and strange events have been taking place there for several years

Quote: Expelling Liberoids

Sorry, but, in my opinion, this is not terrorism, but the obvious criminality of which is given a political connotation

I recall the shooting of the border post where a conscript was made guilty, then the crash of an airplane / helicopter with high ranks of "involved" in this incident, the revolts of the "oilmen" of which the type receives little imkha NGOs and corrupt officials who have gone overboard

[cniza]

They are trying to surround Russia with a belt of non-stability and it seems they will not calm down, actions on our part are needed.

[Banishing liberoids]

Sorry, but, in my opinion, this is not terrorism, but the obvious criminality of which is given a political connotation

[Ami du peuple]

Quote: Exorcist Liberoids

it’s not terrorism, but its obvious criminal nature

Let them attach. After the June terrorist attacks in Aktobe, it is better for Kazakh comrades to overtake than not.

[Same lech]

Sorry, but, in my opinion, this is not terrorism, but the obvious criminality of which is given a political connotation

Yes ... it is not yet clear what is happening in KAZAKHSTAN ...

who is behind the ongoing terrorist attacks?
Who is the customer, sponsor, organizer ... too much noise and dust in the media.

[kepmor]

And where did you see terrorism without criminality?
Social injustice with criminality - these are the fundamental principles for terror! And the ideological component is just a screen, a masquerade for the fold!
The goal, as always, is the same - power and money!

[2224460]

Sorry, but, in my opinion, this is not terrorism, but the obvious criminality of which is given a political connotation

Well, you there in an exceptional country know better "hu from hu", but the fact that he shouted "Allu in the bar" and during a search with him the notebook sheet was confiscated in Arabic, but in interviews his relatives say that he is a Salafi, it doesn’t count The kid was angry with the police, he was straight drinking, he could not eat "there was such a persistent dislike." (Minus mine)

[Roman 11]

Quote: 2224460

(minus mine)

What have you all worked out about the cons? A herd of cows was put on the line or what? Well, opponents will "banned", re-register ..... business? Or lazy mother?

[2224460]

What have you all worked out about the cons? Was a herd of cows on the line? Well, opponents will be "banned", re-register ..... business? Or lazy mother? laughing

Firstly, I did not work, and secondly, NOT WITH YOU. A minus is my attitude towards the "post" of the person who wrote it, So it is clear.

[Scandinavian]

They write in social networks. At the same time, for all citizens of Almaty and Kazakhstan, our bodies are trying to paint this incident as an event not on religious grounds, but on the basis of a lonely bearded man angry with his organs. They are already making a criminal offense to people on the topic of provocateurs, who heard that at the time of the murder of the police he turned on his "Alabarometer" and convey this to the people.

[viktorrymar]

YaYa, naturlich, I think so too, but terrorism is not only what people understand it now.
Synonyms of the word "terror" (lat. Terror - fear, horror) are the words "violence", "intimidation", "intimidation".

[Zymran]

Quote: viktorrymar

Synonyms of the word "terror" (lat. Terror - fear, horror) are the words "violence", "intimidation", "intimidation".

In fact, if we take the definition of terrorism as:

In Russian law, terrorism is defined as the ideology of violence and the practice of influencing public consciousness, decision-making by state authorities, local authorities or international organizations related to force, intimidation of the population and / or other forms of unlawful violent actions [7]. In US law, it’s like intentional, politically motivated violence committed against civilians or objects by subnational groups at the federal level or by clandestine agents, usually with the intention of influencing public sentiment [8].

That happening in our country is not terrorism.

[marshes]

Quote: Zymran

That happening in our country is not terrorism.

Zimran, and I had a better opinion of you;
Does it bother you that your "brothers" are being killed by a Kazakh against a Kazakh, even though he serves for a number of reasons that there are a lot of Kazakhs in the army and organs, he raised his hand and kill even if you don't know them personally?
Or do you want what we had like in Ukraine or Syria?

[Zymran]

Quote: marshes

Does it bother you that your "brothers" are being killed by a Kazakh against a Kazakh, even though he serves for a number of reasons that there are a lot of Kazakhs in the army and organs, he raised his hand and kill even if you don't know them personally?

Any murder, of course, "jars". But this is not an act of terrorism, if we consider a terrorist act as a means of pressure on the authorities or a method of attacking the civilian population, but rather bandit attacks on police officers with the aim of revenge. Those. by and large criminality.

[marshes]

Quote: Zymran

gang attacks on police with the aim of revenge. Those. by and large criminality.

And if the civilian population dies, we will consider how? Concomitant losses?
what revenge, he knew the inveterate, and then they said that against employees, lawyers and judges, weapons should not be raised. It is harmful for "Business". It must be "frostbitten" in the region.
For this reason, they are "pressed" in the zones.

[Zymran]

Quote: marshes

And if the civilian population dies, we will consider how? Concomitant losses?

Well. cynical, but yes. Moreover, even according to official information from Kasymov, the offender was looking for and hunting specifically for employees.
Again. I do not condone the shooter, but all the same, all this does not fall under the definition of a terrorist attack. And thank God. Imagine what would happen if the goal of the bearded man would be civilians.

Quote: marshes

I knew the inveterate and then they said that against employees, lawyers and judges, you can not raise a weapon. It is harmful for "Business". It must be "frostbitten" to the edge.

I know this no worse than you. But one thing is ordinary bandits, and another is processed by the ideology of Wahhabism.

[marshes]

Quote: Zymran

I know this no worse than you. But one thing is ordinary bandits, and another is processed by the ideology of Wahhabism.

But is it not a terrorist who has handled those who have the ideology of Wahhabism, Salafism? Or is this a simple criminal offended by the authorities.
So ... There is such a thing, I met in life who were "kosyachniki", all my life they got into some kind of trouble, and who is to blame, everything. They say "they do not understand the soul of the poet" but they cannot figure out themselves. So these "hotbyches" the zone gets even embittered.

[Zymran]

Quote: marshes

But is it not a terrorist who has handled those who have the ideology of Wahhabism, Salafism? Or is this a simple criminal offended by the authorities.

Well, here is the definition of a terrorist act from the Criminal Code of the Republic of Kazakhstan:

1. The commission of an explosion, arson, or other actions creating the danger of death, causing significant property damage or other socially dangerous consequences if these acts were carried out in order to violate public safety, intimidate the population or influence decision-making by state bodies of the Republic of Kazakhstan, a foreign state or international organization, as well as the threat of these actions for the same purposes -

Nothing about the ideology of Wahhabism or Salafism. And can not a simple criminal offended by the authorities at the same time be a Salafi?

Quote: marshes

So ... There is such a thing, I met in life who were "kosyachniki", all my life they got into some kind of trouble, and who is to blame, everything. They say "they do not understand the soul of the poet" but they cannot figure out themselves. So these "hotbyches" the zone gets even embittered.

That is yes. But such people, as a rule, are not capable of tough and volitional acts, such as attacks on police officers. Those. under the influence of an impulse, they can arrange something like the execution of a guard, etc., but in cold blood go hunting for someone not in their character.

[marshes]

Quote: Zymran

Nothing about the ideology of Wahhabism or Salafism. And can not a simple criminal offended by the authorities at the same time be a Salafi?

Therefore, the deputies should be called out of vacations. So that the Criminal Code would be "corrected". Yes, according to the law, we are trying to solve everything, peacefully, but they have crossed the edge of the line. died believing that they would lay down their arms.

Quote: Zymran

That is yes. But such people, as a rule, are not capable of tough and volitional acts, such as attacks on police officers. Those. under the influence of an impulse, they can arrange something like the execution of a guard, etc., but in cold blood go hunting for someone not in their character.

They may as well, human nature has not yet been genuinely studied.

[Kasym]

Hi guys! The police are a state policing agency. Conscious massacre of representatives of this body is an attempt on power and public order established in the country. And since he is Salafi, it is clear what public order he sought. They will attribute terrorism, 99%.
It is clear that police do not like police anywhere. But something I do not remember, that revenge was carried out in a similar way. If the convicted person felt that he was not punished with justice, he would have crumbled everyone in a row - he would hardly have figured out an opera, a prosecutor or a judge; but I wouldn’t do that !? And if he really served the case, then there is no demand - there has never been such a practice.
Today, most likely, some anonymous call raised everyone's ears. Now they will always react in such a way that they put everything around on the ears? Imagine what was happening there on Zeleny (RAKHAT - customs zone - good security) with sellers? They where to dump the goods?

[marshes]

Quote: Kasym

But something I don’t remember, that revenge was carried out in this way

In the Zhambyl region, the village has already forgotten, about two years ago.

Quote: Kasym

Today, most likely, some anonymous call raised everyone's ears.

No, according to the news, a removable apartment was searched about this,

Quote: Kasym

If the convicted person felt that he was not punished with justice, he would have crumbled everyone in a row - he would hardly have figured out an opera, a prosecutor or a judge; but I wouldn’t do that !? And if he really served the case, then there is no demand - there has never been such a practice.

So offended and avenged precisely those whose accounts were guilty. My relative died in the 80s, they died, they killed him in the parking lot and stood up for the Volga alone, the Kazakh cosmos, he was previously convicted and he put him in prison.

[Kasym]

Is it for a search that they muddied such an operation?

[marshes]

Quote: Kasym

Is it for a search that they muddied such an operation?

Well, yes, and on the network there is a photo of special vehicles from the National Security Committee with an assault ladder.
I am generally annoyed in armaments between the two organizations. Our show-offs have nothing to do with it, it turns out.
What was highlighted earlier in the photo is KNBeshny Canadian, and then something is one.
Yes, the Almaty Ministry of Internal Affairs looks like hell with such a city budget. In Aktobe, and even on Skoda rapid vehicles, we have killed chances and nexia, well, maybe someone is on a Peugeot, a ram car. I can’t understand. Even in the area and then on sangg-yangah. And Niva.

[Zymran]

Hi guys! The police are a state policing agency. Conscious massacre of representatives of this body is an attempt on power and public order established in the country. And since he is Salafi, it is clear what public order he sought. They will attribute terrorism, 99%.

But if he hadn’t worn a beard, then how an ordinary bandyugan would have gone. Probably.

As for revenge. Thoughts are such that ordinary criminals rarely take revenge on the scouts or operas that took them. Not before that usually. But it's plain black. And the Salaf, apparently in their concepts, live and cultivate revenge for their brothers in faith. Well this is my guess.

Quote: Kasym

Is it for a search that they muddied such an operation? belay

They decided to probably overtake.

Have you seen? http://www.uralskweek.kz/2016/07/19/bezrabotnyx-vypusknikov-kazaxstana-predlagay
ut-otpravlyat-v-armiyu-ili-strojbaty /

In general, I think they would have forced all civilians to run by or by marching along the streets of the migrant. Give them only will.

[marshes]

Quote: Zymran

Thoughts are such that ordinary criminals rarely take revenge on the scouts or operas that took them. Not before that usually. But then plain black

They are taking revenge, I can still remind you of a couple of cases, one of them recognized the last one and he was his car, although he should be sitting on parole, we praise the most humane court.
According to the Court, if one of them had been covered at that time, there would have been no explosion in one of the Almaty area, an attempt was being prepared on the PAPU, there would have been no assault. Children died, our soldiers, unlike the Dagestan and Chechen ones, hide behind their families, children. Although there was a proposal They were released. A little later, the rangers were cut out and went to the "democrats" in Bishkek. And the jury acquitted that, now the devils will dance in their souls for the rest of their lives.

Quote: Zymran

In general, I think they would have forced all civilians to run by or by marching along the streets of the migrant. Give them only will.

I myself for it By area or in a group we build and with a song or run around the perimeter.
Though not laughing, mourning.

[berezin1987]

Islamists need to be destroyed like mad dogs. There are no other options. Radical preachers to the wall!

[Roman 11]

Cool began to live not only in the territory of the former Union, what’s going on in France, in the hotbed of instability of police officers banging .... In the present world, silence can be found only in the taiga and then the wolves will be bitten if without a double-barreled gun.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Novel 11

In the current world, silence can only be found in the taiga, and then the wolves will be bitten, if without a double-barreled gun.

No, wolves, they are more human now, if I may say so)))
There are so many two-sided "beasts" that neither people, nor wolves, nor bears have peace, and in the taiga, by the way, too.

[avg-mgn]

Correctly urge people not to panic and sit at home. When operative search measures are carried out (even simply regarding the citizen’s statement), there’s nothing to go into details, because often the specialists themselves do not have detailed information, but carry out a soft sweep (checking documents, searches, etc.), at any time use weapons. After all, as often happens, the police work out the object (sometimes with screams and jerking the shutters), and onlookers stand staring at the show, click on iPhones, drop frames on the network, and when they pick up the iPhone and hit it on the snot, they start yelling and people begin to perceive incident, panic moods and grow like a snowball.

[marshes]

I hope ours will catch up a little later and see the news.
Aposlya et al.
Maybe Marek will read, no matter how at the Ministry of Internal Affairs, he has someone who has ...
To begin with, Kalmukhanbet Nurmukhanbetovich improve the material and technical base in the Ministry of Internal Affairs. This applies to both the Government and the Ministry of Finance.
Arm the PPS with nicknames with revolvers as an additional PP weapon. Give AK type oars to the Army or to NG.
Raise the level of combat training of the teaching staff, they can also share the knowledge of the SOP men, or send them to study in the USA or Israel. In terms of action in case of a surprise attack.
And also from the photo that in the press, on some of the employees there are not big black bulletproof vests, explain that they need to be worn under a shirt, and then black ones turn into the aiming point.
The heroism of the employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs should not be taken away, only they would need the dead. Although there were those who ran around the floors in the Almaly police department.
And today’s special operation. In the photo, conscripts? PKK for hell, in the city with a cordon? Although the AK is not oar like but what do they do on the belt. In case of a surprise attack, and still want to "give".

[marshes]

I will add more BURAN vehicles, at least partially book at least from automatic weapons.

[Zymran]

Quote: marshes

Arm the PPS with nicknames with revolvers as an additional PP weapon. Give AK type oars to the Army or to NG.

To conscripts, and even to such savages as PPS-nicknames, I would not trust military weapons. In general, it seems to me better to reduce the number of cops, but to raise their status, salaries, allowances, but to recruit the very best, as they did in Georgia. Generally remove soldiers from the streets and use them only as a reinforcement or at various events.

[marshes]

Quote: Zymran

To conscripts, and even to such savages as PPS-nicknames, I would not trust military weapons.

and who would you entrust, I am already an "old" who owns a weapon but already with a bunch of chronic diseases. I agree to return, but if the salary level is like my monthly income, minus taxes. They will go bankrupt. I can pull others up too. Who is already living in commerce found. Not a fig was dismissive in the early 2000s to us.

Quote: Zymran

. In general, it seems to me better to reduce the number of cops, but to raise their status, salaries, allowances, but to recruit the very best, as they did in Georgia

Well, it turns out that where Georgia is poverty and still Orthodox, lost territories, and as a rule it will turn out through our priests as a rule.

Quote: Zymran

Generally remove soldiers from the streets and use them only as a reinforcement or at various events.

The soldiers do not need to be on the street at all, their fate is internal service and training, someone may want a contract. And if anything, be a reserve, more professional military personnel, in which case.

[Zymran]

Quote: marshes

Well, it turns out that where Georgia is poverty and still Orthodox, lost territories, and as a rule it will turn out through our priests as a rule.

Quote: marshes

and who would you entrust, I am already an "old" who owns a weapon but already with a bunch of chronic diseases. I agree to return, but if the salary level is like my monthly income, minus taxes. They will go bankrupt. I can pull others up too. Who is already living in commerce found. Not a fig was dismissive in the early 2000s to us.

Well, how to do it in Georgia, but it will turn out that you have to throw out a hundred thousand if not more cops. And wang, that some of them will soon be in prison.
I don’t know what your income is, but Georgians paid about 6kilobaksov back to their 2.5 years ago. Taking into account the course - now it is a chocolate salary in Kazakhstan. =)

Quote: marshes

The soldiers do not need to be on the street at all, their fate is internal service and training, someone may want a contract. And if anything, be a reserve, more professional military personnel, in which case.

+ 500 If there is no war, natural disaster or terrorist threat, then soldiers on the street is an abnormal phenomenon in any country.

[marshes]

Quote: Zymran

Well, how to do it in Georgia, but it will turn out that you have to throw out a hundred thousand if not more cops. And wang, that some of them will soon be in prison.
I don’t know what your income is, but Georgians paid about 6kilobaksov back to their 2.5 years ago. Taking into account the course - now it is a chocolate salary in Kazakhstan. =)

And the fig, wang that not a dick will not change. And it will be even worse. And so if the police department is made of "glass" then those that are posted on YouTube are quite interesting videos will be like from thugs personnel on the floors will be hiding.

Quote: Zymran

I don’t know what your income is, but Georgians paid about 6kilobaksov back to their 2.5 years ago. Taking into account the course - now it is a chocolate salary in Kazakhstan. =)

My income is much more and even ask for the dead raccoons in the lam as insurance. Well, we will be in the service, forget about democracy, etc. ... Something will remember Latin America with the Brigades of Death.

Quote: Zymran

+ 500 If there is no war, natural disaster or terrorist threat, then soldiers on the street is an abnormal phenomenon in any country.

I’ve been talking about this for a long time, still by NAC. Guardsmen are being released into the street. This is the work of the PPS. They don’t need them at all, so that mothers could bring zinc later.

[Zymran]

I'm a little confused. The National Guards are former BB-Schnicks. We in youth called them eggplants for their violet shape. And then PPP who? I thought the same thing. Those. the same soldiers of the internal troops.

[marshes]

Quote: Zymran

And then PPP who? I thought the same thing.

Almost, however, the Buranas are also included in the faculty.

[marshes]

I personally, after PAPA, the country was led by people like that in the photo.

[Chisayna]

Bolot. March 6, 2016.13: 48 And this is precisely on your mistakes, we studied and learn, plus some people from the Middle East help, spelling is preserved. So what, have you learned? Did someone from the Middle East help you? As it began, there were so many cries: where to run, what to clutch for, whom ... whom to give away .sya. So we studied. Well, you have not enough experience of your own.

[marshes]

Quote: Chisain

. So what, have you learned? Did someone from the Middle East help you? How it began, howls: where to run, what to grab, who ... whom to give away.

They learned, they just don’t give work. They are afraid that they can and someone to cripple the authorities.

[Gabor]

Quote: marshes

To begin with, Kalmukhanbet Nurmukhanbetovich improve the material and technical base in the Ministry of Internal Affairs

In 11, in the Vremya newspaper, I read a letter from a special forces officer of the Ministry of Internal Affairs about these problems. Moreover, he wrote this message exactly on the eve of his death at the hands of terrorists ..
I dangled it.

Quote: marshes

They learned, they just don’t give work. They are afraid that they can and someone to cripple the authorities.

Gaddafi on this pierced. He was afraid to strengthen the army, fearing a military coup .. what ended, everyone knows.