Media: Ankara "lost" 14 ships and the commander of the Navy

British Edition The Times referring to unnamed sources in the Turkish military department reports that immediately 14 ships of the Turkish naval forces do not get in touch after an attempted coup in the country. The material claims that there is no information about where at the moment the commander of the Turkish Navy Veisel Kezele is located. The main question for official Ankara is whether the commander was fleet a participant in an attempted military coup or held hostage by the rebels.

The British media publishes information that before the start of the well-known events in Turkey, 14 warships that now do not get in touch, were located in the waters of two seas - the Black and Aegean. At the same time, it is not reported that, for the time being, Ankara is hindering the detection of “disappeared” ships using radar or satellite systems.

Meanwhile, the Turkish media write that Admiral Kesel was one of the warships on July 16 in July not on his own will. The media claim that the admiral was "lured" on board by the rebels, saying that he needed to escape, as a major terrorist attack took place at the base of the Navy.

According to some reports, among the 14 ships "lost" by Ankara is the Turkish Navy frigate TCG Yavuz (onboard number 240), which is armed with the Harpoon anti-ship missiles.

Comments

[Observer2014]

Media: Ankara "lost" 14 ships and the commander of the Navy

Yes, of course an interesting question! Somewhere there are as many as 14 non-subordinate warships! And even where, in the Adriatic. And the MediterraneanOur bad-tours are still eager to "rest" there? Maybe on yachts, blood from the nose will be added to the beauties of the local nature?

[gray smeet]

Quote: Observer2014

Media: Ankara "lost" 14 ships and the commander of the Navy

Yes, of course an interesting question! Somewhere there are as many as 14 non-subordinate warships! And even where, in the Adriatic.

I didn’t think that in the 21st century a whole flotilla could be lost ... "Fool" was turned on by the Turks!

[Pereira]

In Odessa, not looking?

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Pereira

In Odessa, not looking?

It’s not there, there, Saigak, the Summer House exercise was broken down. Yes, and whoever entrusts their ships to Ukraine, a whole peninsula sailed away from them, a couple of years ago.

[Observer2014]

Alexander Romanov

It’s not there, there Saigak Dachny teachings tore off breaking.

What a nag!

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Observer2014

What a nag!

No need to quote the words of the commander of the American frigate.

[Temples]

Turks, Turks ...

Why did you suddenly forget about the NATO treaty?

They tried to turn the country inside out.
14 ships fell off.

Is NATO also Blind?

Where is the ally's defense?

Or at this event money can’t be easily cut down, therefore, NATO in the house?

It turns out that during an armed coup in a participating country, NATO is sitting on the sidelines and watching?
Who needs such state protection ???

[alex-s]

Maybe everything is already in Vtorchermet?

[sgazeev]

Quote: Temples

Turks, Turks ...

Why did you suddenly forget about the NATO treaty?

They tried to turn the country inside out.
14 ships fell off.

Is NATO also Blind?

Where is the ally's defense?

Or at this event money can’t be easily cut down, therefore, NATO in the house?

It turns out that during an armed coup in a participating country, NATO is sitting on the sidelines and watching?
Who needs such state protection ???

The EU and NATO are concerned about the introduction of the death penalty in Turkland, and there is no mention of American shootings.

[Observer2014]

Alexander Romanov

No need to quote the words of the commander of the American frigate.

I'm not talking about a rust trough! I'm talking about Ukraine as a whole

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Observer2014

I'm not talking about a rust trough! I'm talking about Ukraine as a whole

Ah, well, things are even worse with Ukraine than with Saigak dachny. There, the whole country was covered specifically with a pan.

[HERMES]

Media: Ankara "lost" 14 ships and a naval commander.

Well, in that case, Russia can also "lose" a couple of frigates near the Turkish coast ... well ... for every fireman.

[HERMES]

It will be interesting ... if in the near future they report the "loss" of several nuclear B61s ... which are available on the Incirlik base. And which will surface somewhere in Syria ...

Excerpt from one site:
“The rebels attempting a coup in Turkey had the opportunity to shoot down Erdogan's plane flying from Marmaris to Istanbul, a former military man familiar with the situation told Reuters.

"At least two F-16 aircraft monitored Erdogan's side while he was heading for Istanbul. There were also two escort aircraft on the radars of the fighters," the source said. He admitted that he did not understand why the pilots did not open fire.
A senior Turkish official confirmed to the agency that two F-16 fighters had been tracking Erdogan's plane after taking off from Marmaris airport.

[HERMES]

Oh and done business Erdogan ...

[Grandfather Luka]

The commander-in-chief was "lured" to the ship. Such is the anecdote.

[alexej123]

Why are you writing this? It seems to me that it will be possible to shy along the Turkish coast even near the coast of Azov, since now there is something good. Is there enough of a return line? I think no, not enough. Vaughn is talking and the pilots are arrested, it is evident that the sultan is in front of Uncle Vova and really apologizes. And something for the Russian fleet to hang out near the Turkish coast? He has Crimean in order, his own.

[alexmach]

Yes, and God bless him. Now, if she had not found them, then our fleet on the Black Sea would have breathed much freer. So they will find it!

[Korney84]

and the United States as always

[Lukich]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

It’s not there, there Saigak Dachny teachings tore off breaking.

scared of the missing flotilla

[igordok]

Quote: Pereira

In Odessa, not looking?

And in Sevastopol?

[Now we are free]

Add to this up to several dozen "missing" helicopters and up to several dozen elite commandos of the Turkish army and we get a very interesting picture for Rajapchik ... By the way, will his sycophantic gendarmerie fight against the PKK or the "Golden Boys" from MID? ..

[Vadim237]

It's good that the American B61 thermonuclear bombs have not disappeared.

[33 Watcher]

Quote: Vadim237

It's good that the American B61 thermonuclear bombs have not disappeared.

And it is still unknown. So far, they didn’t let the Merikatos there, they did not count

[Kars]

Quote: Observer 33

And it is still unknown. So far, they didn’t let the Merikatos there, they did not count

) funny) The staff of the Base are Americans) and no one deleted them. No one would even trust the storage guards to the Turks.

[33 Watcher]

Quote: Kars

Quote: Observer 33

And it is still unknown. So far, they didn’t let the Merikatos there, they did not count

) funny) The staff of the Base are Americans) and no one deleted them. No one would even trust the storage guards to the Turks.

Well, in general (except for jokes), the mericatos themselves wrote that these depots are guarded by foreign military personnel. So I don’t know, I don’t know ...

[Kars]

Quote: Observer 33

Well, in general (except for jokes), the mericatos themselves wrote that these depots are guarded by foreign military personnel

I would read about where the Americans say that their depots with nuclear weapons are being guarded by the military of other countries.

[Kars]

Modern ships are not sailboats) they will not be able to stay at sea for a long time. I would suggest the Cyprus People's Republic) but hardly. It would be ridiculous if they went into pirates)

[Vadim237]

The drift will fall, to save fuel.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Kars

I would suggest the Cyprus Republic of People

Karsik, my brother is missing, how is that? Hold on yet?

[Kars]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Karsik,

how affectionately)

Quote: Alexander Romanov

my brother is missing

Well, you know the answer to your brother)

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Hold on yet?

I hold on) even without the T-90MS hard)

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Kars

I hold on) even without the T-90MS hard)

"Oplot" is no longer "rolling"?

[Kars]

Quote: Paranoid50

"Oplot" is no longer "rolling"?

It seems that the Oplot model is as unfinished as the original), but as soon as I appear I will buy it myself)
And T-90MS comes out in August)

[Lukich]

Quote: gray smeet

"Fool" was turned on by Turks!

and never turned off. Erdogashka trifle. bad student

[Orionvit]

The Sea of ​​Marmara is 60 km across in the widest part. From the mountain with binoculars everything is visible.

[SRC P-15]

Quote: Observer2014

Yes, the question is of course an interesting one! Somewhere there are as many as 14 not subordinate warships! And even where in the Adriatic.

Well, the ships could not abyss simultaneously and spontaneously. So they have someone to obey!
And most likely, we will soon hear that these ships are under repair.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: СРЦ П-15

And most likely, we will soon hear that these ships are under repair.

At the Zvezdochka plant

[Svetlana]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Quote: СРЦ П-15

And most likely, we will soon hear that these ships are under repair.

At the Zvezdochka plant

No one will say this and, accordingly, we will not hear. If they do not come up anywhere else, then for sure there. It can be assumed that this is the price that Erdogan paid for our plane and the dead pilots. He was told that he did not get off with tomatoes.

[Monarchist]

Aha and at all the walkie-talkies went out of order?

[BARKAS]

Well, who will find them there on the Northern Sea Route!

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Observer2014

Yes, of course an interesting question! Somewhere there "hang out" as many as 14 not to whom not obeying warships

NATO intelligence has been looking for our army in the Donbas for two years, and now they will be looking for a whole fleet in the clear sea for a year

Is there anyone on the site from Sevastopol? Sluchainino new ships did not appear in the bay? About 14 pieces

[gray smeet]

Then it’s not in the Crimea to look, but in Odessa! With the world on a thread, the naked fleet!

[kukan913]

I'm afraid Ukrainians will meet them with gas cutters and metal weights today in price

[colonel manuch]

They won't come to us if they go to the "allies" - the great Ukrainians, to the long-suffering Odessa.

[Koshak]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

NATO intelligence has been looking for our army in the Donbas for two years, and now they will be looking for a whole fleet in the clear sea for a year

US satellites and drones can photograph how an Ishilovets fucks a donkey, but not invisible Russian troops in Ukraine.

[a housewife]

Maybe they replenished the base in Novorossiysk? The road is well known to the Turks there.

[Vend]

Quote: Observer2014

Media: Ankara "lost" 14 ships and the commander of the Navy

Yes, of course an interesting question! Somewhere there are as many as 14 non-subordinate warships! And even where, in the Adriatic. Our bad-tours are still eager to "rest" there? Maybe on yachts, blood from the nose will be added to the beauties of the local nature?

Mattresses create super camouflage, and the Turks apparently already invented it. The whole fleet was hidden. Again, the USA is ahead

[def89]

Ships cannot be lost, with modern surveillance and tracking systems. Another stuffing. And about the tourists, I absolutely agree with you. What else infuriates that children are dragged along.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: def89

Ships cannot be lost, with modern surveillance and tracking systems. Another stuffing.

Maybe they know where they are, another question, if they have lost control. Do not announce to all of Turkey that half the fleet sent Erdogan to hell.
And given the fact that there will be no charters to Turkey before the end of the year, something is indeed wrong there.

[33 Watcher]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Maybe they know where they are, another question, if they have lost control. Do not announce to all of Turkey that half the fleet sent Erdogan to hell.

Look ... But the question is, how now to return them to submission? 14 ships is serious, but there’s nothing to lose by a rebel. Now only if you persuade. Or a pirate fleet will appear in the Mediterranean

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Observer 33

but there’s nothing to lose by the rebel.

There are TVs on the ships and they saw there what awaits them upon their return.

[33 Watcher]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Quote: Observer 33

but there’s nothing to lose by the rebel.

There are TVs on the ships and they saw there what awaits them upon their return.

Under them, the death penalty is personally returned. Honor rendered! And they did not seem to appreciate ...

[alexmach]

Yeah, and he will live in this Mediterranean for about 15-20 minutes.

[Stas157]

Quote: def89

And about the tourists, I absolutely agree with you. What else infuriates that children are dragged along.

Ah, I do not agree! Although I already caught a lot of minuses for this, but nonetheless ... Do not confuse cause and effect. The reason that tourists ended up in Turkey is sitting in the Kremlin. If there were the same prohibitions on flights to Turkey, as was done with Egypt, then the problem would not exist. And, do not, only songs about freedom of choice! Indeed, in the case of Egypt, there is a complete ban on flights, and not one putenoid (I never used the word, but there are no others) did not yell that de Russians were deprived of their freedom of choice !! Allow, and people will go anywhere! After all, they are going to Tunisia. And only Russians! Therefore, the will of the state is needed! And whoever really wants to get through other countries! Why help them? Why take it yourself, and even show ads?
But, thank God it's in the past! The Kremlin had enough common sense to stop sending tourists there. Well, where are you the ones who yelled about freedom of choice ?? Why don't you resent Putin’s decision on a new ban?
Two-faced! Ready to justify any action by Putin!

[Ami du peuple]

Quote: Stas157

There was enough common sense in the Kremlin to stop sending tourists there

But is the Kremlin a travel agency to send tourists somewhere? Still, the authorities would have had enough common sense to demand money from these unfortunate spa residents for evacuation to their homeland. Why should I, as a taxpayer, have to pay for the failed vacation of some fellow citizens who did not soberly assess all the risks of such trips?

[Stas157]

Quote: Ami du peuple

But is the Kremlin a travel agency to send tourists somewhere?

Pretending to be a fool?)) And who gave the tour operators the green light to fill the Turkish resorts?
Everything that happened after the lifting of the bans is just an inevitable consequence of the Kremlin’s decision! But only.

[alexmach]

For that, minus, with the opening of the flights, they really somehow rushed, fussy as it turned out. But in general they already flew through Minsk.

Everything that happened after the lifting of the bans is just an inevitable consequence of the Kremlin’s decision! But only

And I also destroyed the chapel?

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Ami du peuple

Still, the authorities would have had enough common sense to demand money from these unfortunate spa residents for evacuation to their homeland.

They rested so abruptly, flew in, unpacked their suitcases and packed them back. An unforgettable vacation with suckers turned out

[Stas157]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

They rested so abruptly, flew in, unpacked their suitcases and packed them back. An unforgettable vacation with suckers turned out

How unflattering you are about your compatriots!)) Ah, because they are essentially not to blame!
One of the bans lifted and said that his friend Erdogan guarantees security! Others persuaded for money to send a tour ...
And, as usual, people remained extreme. Probably, you say, you had to think with your head, but after all, as we see, not everyone can do this! You can, of course, write them down as "fuckers" as you do it, but the result will not change. And, after all, these are our citizens!
I think for this and there is a state, to prompt, to direct ... those who do not want to think. Something (life-threatening!) To ban even! After all, these citizens take children there too.

[ohtandur]

to do mitigation on stupidity and degradation in the brain? The exam is his mother .. for centuries people have been tempted to become smarter, and now we are doing indulgence "young deb ** am" as Goblin says)))))

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Stas157

And, after all, they are essentially not to blame for anything!

I agree, man is not to blame for the fact that he has no brains. But these are problems of a specific person, and not of the state as a whole. They had a great choice, but they wanted a happy holiday in Turkey.

Quote: Stas157

And, after all, these are our citizens with you!

I'll pay you.

Quote: Stas157

I think for this and there is a state, suggest, direct ..

An intelligent person will not go to a country where explosions thunder every day, and all the more so he will not drag children there.

[Stas157]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

I agree, man is not to blame for the fact that he has no brains. But these are problems of a specific person, and not of the state as a whole.

You know, I still think in the Soviet way: "We are the state!" Therefore, these are our common problems. I believe the strength of a nation is in cohesion. To shut yourself off from your lost citizens is a dead-end path. We are all in the same boat, so your problems are my problems too.

[Neputin]

As a rule, these "lost citizens" who drink, vomit, are rude and generally create a negative image of the Russian, such as "TAGIL RULIT". Normal and sane people, for example, have money to go to Turkey, but not to go to Spain - such a person simply will not go anywhere. And for these crowds, the main thing is that a glass of vodka is poured for free. Well, "dildo with them," as they say. I really feel sorry for the children. Well, nothing, then they will re-educate in the orphanage.

[KaPToC]

Quote: Stas157

Therefore, these are our common problems.

Do not confuse your coat and state. Everyone who went to Turkey for a vacation no matter what — the FSB in pencil.

P.S. Let them pay for their salvation from their own pockets.

[Alex_Tug]

They had a big choice.

The choice is great when there is a lot of money. And so - I want cool at a minimum cost.

[a housewife]

My sister, husband and niece last year drove a car to Belarus. And her colleague flew to Turkey. My sister spent half the money less. So happy - looked so much - and nature, and museums, and reserves, different cities. Stayed where they wanted, rested, in general. These in Turkey saw a hotel, buffet and pool. All. Once they were taken to a museum, they did not even remember what the museum was about. And at our own expense for a day went to Israel, not cheap. At the same time, they are proud that they went abroad! Ugh on them. If you still did not drag children. This year, my sister and family traveled to Volgograd, visited Kazan, and also saw a lot of things. Prior to that, in different years we went to Moscow, to St. Petersburg, to the Crimea. And her friend was still sitting in a Turkish hotel ...

[PHANTOM-AS]

Quote: housewife

My sister, husband and niece last year drove a car to Belarus. And her colleague flew to Turkey.

Quote: housewife

Prior to that, in different years we went to Moscow, to St. Petersburg, to the Crimea. And her friend was still sitting in a Turkish hotel ...

You confuse several concepts of beach vacation, tourism and travel.
Trying to compare incomparable things, the beauty of Russia and Belarus with the Turkish hotel service.
And most importantly, you forget about wild tariffs and gas prices inside the Russian Federation!
They took away a cheap and comfortable vacation in accessible countries and deprive them of the financial ability to travel around the country !!!

[discussim7]

Citizens ... of the state, these are those who have a civil position ... especially in relation to the enemies, lusting to destroy pilots and other military personnel of the country who are not at war with them ... And those who go to rest to the enemy are called by normal people venal creatures, and in short the population .. brainless animals .. you, to the best of your position, can call them whatever you want and treat them as you like, but your position towards such "compatriots" "already speaks about you ...

[Stas157]

Quote: obsudim7

Citizens ... of the state, these are those who have a civil position ... especially in relation to enemies, lust destroying pilots and other military personnel of the country who are not at war with them ... And those who go to rest with the enemy are called normal people venal creatures, and shorter population .. brainless animals

Yes, I think so too! But, I do not shift all responsibility to these citizens. They may not consider Turkey an enemy. Officially, Turkey is our friend, again! What I personally can not agree! And then they didn’t go around the prohibitions, but with the blessing of the main thing! By Russian airlines, on Russian tickets, from Russian travel agencies!
So what are they to blame? What do you consider Turkey as your enemy?
Ah, our president thinks otherwise! So all questions to him!

[Ami du peuple]

Quote: Stas157

They may not consider Turkey an enemy.

Their right.

Quote: Stas157

Officially, Turkey is our friend, again!

Come on!

Quote: Stas157

And then they didn’t go around the prohibitions, but with the blessing of the main thing!

Personally blessed everyone together with the Patriarch?

Quote: Stas157

By Russian airlines, on Russian tickets, from Russian travel agencies!

I repeat once again - for your money you’ll be sold a tour, even in the anus of an African American. With an additional tour of the 12 duodenal ulcer.

Quote: Stas157

So what are they to blame? What do you consider Turkey as your enemy?

We believe. they don’t think .. Let them kiss the Turks for their money.

Quote: Stas157

Ah, our president thinks otherwise! So all questions to him!

Are you a medium if you know the opinion of our president? By the way, you can ask him such a question on the website of his administration.

[Stas157]

Quote: Ami du peuple

Are you a medium if you know the opinion of our president? By the way, you can ask him such a question on the website of his administration.

Ask yourself! Okay
Why do you mind? Think you know him? Then share your arguments!
For me, it’s obvious that since Putin accepted the apology, instructed Turkish tourists to fill our resorts, and our shops with Turkish tomatoes, moreover, he himself invited Erdogan’s friend to meet face-to-face, then Putin clearly doesn’t consider Erdogan to be the enemy at all !!
Hence my statement:

Quote: Stas157 So what are they to blame? What do you consider Turkey as your enemy?
Ah, our president thinks otherwise! So all questions to him!

[Koshak]

Quote: Stas157

Putin accepted apologies, instructed to fill Turkish resorts with our tourists

Why lie so blatantly? When and to whom did Putin give this "order"?

[Stas157]

Quote: Ami du peuple

I repeat once again - for your money you’ll be sold a tour, even in the anus of an African American. With an additional tour of the 12 duodenal ulcer.

Well, tell me, who of the Russian tour operators will I legally sell a ticket to Egypt? And now, probably, to Turkey too! Discard the link, be so kind! And then everyone knows how to scratch their tongue)))

[Alex_Tug]

who of the Russian tour operators will I legally sell a ticket to Egypt? And now, probably, to Turkey too!
I don’t know Russians, but you can buy it through Minsk or Kiev.

[Stas157]

Quote: Alex_Tug

I don’t know Russians, but you can buy it through Minsk or Kiev.

And why then write?)) Read carefully, the dispute was just for that:

Quote: Stas157
By Russian airlines, on Russian tickets, from Russian travel agencies!

Quote: Ami du peuple

I repeat once again - for your money you’ll be sold a tour, even in the anus of an African American. With an additional tour of the 12 duodenal ulcer.

[woron333444]

I’m curious, but the state forbade trips to Somalia, or it’s just enough brains not to go there, but not enough to Turkey. Or some compatriots wanted freebies, but a bummer came out and now Putin is again to blame.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: woron333444

Or some compatriots wanted freebies, but a bummer came out and now Putin is again to blame.

Yes, that's right, the key word "FREEBY", inescapable and alluring, sometimes hampering even the instinct of self-preservation. On the night of the coup, following the events on the air, here at VO we have already raised this topic, with the same conclusions. Only here there is another moment: tour-sneeze-puff-agencies (eh, I shook their soul !!!), sharashka, survivors of the collapse two years ago. I won't even go up for an example, because. he (example) is in my family. A month ago, my daughter and her son-in-law bought a tour to Cyprus for September. Everything is fine, they bought it, they forgot it until September, and then ... Literally a day after the "Erdogan snot", when it was still completely unclear what and how, they received a call from the travel agency and said that since mid-July, the charters to Cyprus are being removed and redirected to ... yes, yes, there !!! Then, in the office, where they went to "rip and throw," their entire office was "racked" to buy "in return" a tour to Erdogania. Since my brain was in place (and my gloomy shadow was invisibly looming behind my back), they threatened the tour hucksters with various "nishtyaks", well, they found a way out - they fly to Cyprus through Moscow (and not straight from St. Petersburg). So, there is also the notorious "huckster" factor, because these are definitely "no brains, no conscience" (c). Someone, definitely, "broke" on Turkey, but not all. Although, if there is a specific blaze in the region (again, a whole squadron is skerrying somewhere), then it will not seem enough to anyone, and the Greeks and Cypriots are the first "for distribution", they are at the very boiler. And, by the way, why shouldn't the "rebel squadron" go to the Turkish part of Cyprus? As an option...

[KaPToC]

Quote: Stas157

And, after all, these are our citizens with you!

Our people do not go to the bakery by taxi.

[alexej123]

Oh, how, then they called Erdogan's "friend", then you demand that you be guided and prompted. They start to tell you - you call them "butenoids". You will decide, but how in Maidanistan - hail fell from the sky at night, it is Putin's fault.

[Stas157]

Quote: alexej123

Oh, how, then they called Erdogan's "friend", then you demand that you be guided and prompted. They start to tell you - you call them "butenoids". You will decide, but how in Maidanistan - hail fell from the sky at night, it is Putin's fault.

You are here all my words in one mess do not bother! I’m not considering Erdogan’s friend! I’m guided, and I don’t need to prompt anything, I, unlike those who went to the Turks the other day, go to our Black Sea!
Although I respect Putin, I have named putenoids as those who a priori justify any Putin decision, even erroneous! After all, look, only Putin, in spite of the terrorist attack at the Turkish airport, gives an order to allow Turkish resorts, new unrest follows immediately and Putin gives a diametrically opposite instruction to withdraw tourists from Turkey. So Putin hurried with the first decision!
I wrote about this at the very beginning that this is the wrong decision. And I caught the minuses, and objections like: "But what about freedom of choice! Putin is right in everything! Putin allows, but does not force to fly to Turkey!" Well, what are these excuses worth when Putin himself canceled the planes towards Turkey, recognizing the first decision as erroneous?

[alexej123]

You called this Putin "Friend Erdogan". Firstly, they cannot deny it. All adults should think for themselves. Secondly, this is politics, in our case geopolitics. For Russia, in this time period, there are no friends, no matter how offensive, but you have to agree with the Anglo-Saxons - there are only interests. They act in accordance with this. For friends - for some reason no one supported the recognition of Abkhazia and South Ossetia, even Batka let slip - they threatened. Here is the guide and acts from the current situation.

[Stas157]

Quote: alexej123

You called this Putin "Friend Erdogan". Firstly, they cannot deny it. All adults should think for themselves

Yes, how can it not? Are you all out of a touch of reality? Turkey has already been banned! I'm not talking about Egypt! Do you see that the templates do not converge there?
Adults ... They should think ... Ah, they don’t think for some reason ... and they’re going!
Maybe it's still worth changing the point of view on what is happening?

[Koshak]

Quote: Stas157

One of the bans lifted and said that his friend Erdogan guarantees security!

But lying is not good (although this is typical for trolls). When did he say that?

[Stas157]

Quote: Koshak

But lying is not good (although this is typical for trolls). When did he say that?

Your accusations of lies are unfounded! Especially for such "blah blah blah" I present a video in the last seconds: https: //www.youtube.com/watch? V = GIrRTkWBrIA

Putin's words: "The Turkish leadership will do everything in their power to ensure the safety of our citizens on the territory of the Turkish republic!"
I look forward to apologizing from you!)))

[a housewife]

There is information about our citizens who died in Turkey?

[Kos_kalinki9]

I think for this and there is a state, to prompt, to direct ... those who do not want to think. Something (life-threatening!) To ban even! After all, these citizens take children there too.

Deny? So liberoids scream rise.
For the rest, do they live in the "forest"? Without newspapers, TV, Internet?
Do they have a head on their shoulders themselves so that they would not even drag children there? Or is it with them - And I also eat in it?
And if you don’t want to THINK, then -th!

[voronbel53]

Saving these woes of tourists is unambiguous, yes, but if you please, pay for the plane of the Ministry of Emergencies from your pocket. Nothing personal, just self-financing, especially since we now have capitalism in the country (everyone has everything, every whim, but for money), and we, as we know, are not striving for communism ...

[g1v2]

It is necessary to introduce compulsory insurance for rest in dangerous places. For example, I wanted to go to Turkey - get insurance in the cost of the permit. In Tunisia - halfway tours and so on. As rest affordably begins to hit harder than ours - many will think.

[Koshak]

Quote: Stas157

The reason that tourists ended up in Turkey is sitting in the Kremlin. If there were the same prohibitions on flights to Turkey, as was done with Egypt, then the problem would not exist.

The Kremlin did not prohibit hanging up, throwing itself under a train, jumping from the roof of a high-rise building ... Why the hell was people given? Again, damn it, it’s your fault for Putin that there are no brains. Drink the poison, and in a suicide note they dumped everything on Putin.

[Stas157]

Quote: Koshak

The Kremlin did not prohibit hanging up, throwing itself under a train, jumping from the roof of a high-rise building ... Why the hell was people given? Again, damn it, it’s your fault for Putin that there are no brains. Drink the poison, and in a suicide note they dumped everything on Putin.

Let’s in fact, did Putin’s decision to lift the ban on charters to Turkey affect the increase in demand in this country?
Obviously a strong influence.
Then the next question is, is there Putin’s fault in the fact that citizens are eager for Turkey? The question is rhetorical!

[Ami du peuple]

Quote: Stas157

Let’s in fact, did Putin’s decision to lift the ban on charters to Turkey affect the increase in demand in this country?

Oops .. It’s not true, charters to Turkey, after the famous November events, no one has sent. All citizens of the Russian Federation who were there during the coup arrived on regular flights

Quote: Stas157

Obviously a strong influence.

Based on the foregoing, it did not affect at all.

Quote: Stas157

Then the next question is, is there Putin’s fault in the fact that citizens are eager for Turkey? The question is rhetorical!

Well, of course there is! It gives citizens the opportunity to earn money for holidays abroad and the "iron curtain" does not lower before them. The tyrant's cunning knows no bounds!

[Stas157]

Quote: Ami du peuple

Oops .. It’s not true, charters to Turkey, after the famous November events, no one has sent. All citizens of the Russian Federation who were there during the coup arrived on regular flights

Do not oops! Charters did not send, just because they did not have time to send, but interest and the number of applicants increased by a factor! Will we argue? And, as soon as the charters appeared, do not go to the grandmother, they would be filled!

Quote: Ami du peuple

Well, of course there is! It gives citizens the opportunity to earn money for holidays abroad and the "iron curtain" does not lower before them. The tyrant's cunning knows no bounds!

So your tyrant has already limited Turkey, and Egypt too! Why are you not talking about the curtain?
It’s hard to justify Putin! He is changeable.

[Stas157]

Quote: Ami du peuple

Oops .. It’s not true, charters to Turkey, after the famous November events, no one has sent.

By the way, how do you understand your statement:

Quote: Ami du peuple

I repeat once again - for your money you’ll be sold a tour, even in the anus of an African American. With an additional tour of the 12 duodenal ulcer.

You are clearly a contradiction to yourself! Let's get out!))) I'm curious how you will do it.)))

[Kos_kalinki9]

Stas157 (1) RU
The Kremlin had enough common sense to stop sending tourists there.

In how.
Well, you also write that the Kremlin sends tourists at gunpoint.
Tour. agency "Spasskaya Tower" ?????

[Bulrumeb]

Are our bad tours still eager to "rest" there?

unfortunately they crave a rod like in a hungry year for free pancakes

[Andrey K]

Quote: Observer2014

... Yes, of course, an interesting question! Somewhere there are as many as 14 non-subordinate warships! And even where, in the Adriatic. And the Mediterranean...

Can our Navy "help" Erdogan? Once he lost ...
"Find" and sink to hell, if the fleet is uncontrollable and "nobody's" practically ...
And Erdogan, after ... about seven months, send a telegram: "Dear Recep Tayyipich, we are sorry ... but these were the putschists ... so we were too ... hurried"

[Garris199]

Pralo. To sink and then conclude a contract for the construction of new ones.

[Vita vko]

Suppose that the ships turned off the satellite identification and navigation system, perhaps even a temporary shutdown of all communication systems. But still they will not be able to turn into "Flying Dutchmen"!
First, among themselves, they need to somehow coordinate their actions here without satellite communications either.
Secondly, if one of the 14 decides to launch missile strikes or torpedo attacks on the military or civilian, then who will be responsible for this. Or again, "get off with tomatoes"?
Apparently the British media and their curators from MI-6 are simply not aware that all the NATO navigation systems on Turkish ships are duplicated by similar purely national communications and control systems. Therefore, turning off NATO transmitters in Turkey does not mean that the entire Turkish army was left without communications and light.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Vita VKO

First, among themselves, they need to somehow coordinate their actions here without satellite communications either.

In line of sight mode is easy

[BARKAS]

Today is not April 1 for such an article but thanks laughed!

[33 Watcher]

Quote: BARKAS

Today is not April 1 for such an article but thanks laughed!

So far, it is not clear what is going on there ... And so, yes, it's funny.

[Vadim237]

We will soon find out that several submarines have disappeared.

[ohtandur]

I myself fell out of the news a bit, my mother watched the news on TV, said that a dozen helicopters and some other equipment somehow disappeared from the Inzhirlik base ... isn’t there just one opera scene? All this is so unpredictable, that God forbid ... it’s a coup in Turkey, but everything has become dumb ..

[Vadim237]

These missing helicopters have already pushed on the black arms market.

[33 Watcher]

Quote: Observer2014

Media: Ankara "lost" 14 ships and the commander of the Navy

Yes, of course an interesting question! Somewhere there are as many as 14 non-subordinate warships! And even where, in the Adriatic. And the MediterraneanOur bad-tours are still eager to "rest" there? Maybe on yachts, blood from the nose will be added to the beauties of the local nature?

Fuck you understand, I heard that the rebels hijacked one frigate Yavuz. What about detection, non-detection, where to hide it?

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Observer 33

Fuck you understand, I heard that the rebels hijacked one frigate Yavuz.

Together with the commander! And where is he now ???

[Vadim237]

Swims in the sea with a shot head.

[Dr. Sorge]

About how, they themselves were lost, but in the Ukraine the political asylum was asked?

[marlin1203]

Yo-ho-ho and a bottle of rum! ..

[g1v2]

Right now, they will fall for the pirates. And so it is necessary for Assad to offer them to his service to take with the ships. Well, or in extreme cases - without ships, and then empty the vessels to the bottom, where deeper. There is another option - to adjust the DNI. So the fleet will appear in the republics. The republics are not recognized, so they can demand their ships back until they turn blue.

[Lukich]

Quote: Observer2014

Our bad-tours are still eager to "rest" there? Maybe on yachts, blood from the nose will be added to the beauties of the local nature?

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote: Observer2014

Somewhere "hang out" as many as 14 not to whom do not obey warships!

Maybe in Greece? The Greeks are still learning the secrets of Turkish ships and are in no hurry to give them away.

[Julio Jurenito]

Maybe their insidious Putin is already driving the Volga-Don Canal to the Baltic or the Caspian ?!

[vkschtvgsrfef]

if only they didn’t decide to play Gavril Principle ......

[bubalik]

that immediately 14 ships of the Turkish naval forces do not get in touch after an attempted coup in the country.

,,, neither x ,, but ,, ,, and if there are tomahawks with YAB

[Krsk]

British media is the most reliable and trusted source ... right after the English scientists

[Pitot]

I moved Irdogash with his politics and ideology ..... but in general everything is somehow muddy somehow .... (s missed)

[Monarchist]

I agree: there is a lot of muti.

[ivselim]

They will accuse us of love ... allegedly compensation for the downed SU-24

[Koresh]

Perhaps we are getting a little not reliable info about Erdogan's complete victory? Something seems to me that these boats may either be already in Greece asking for asylum, or aiming their missiles at new targets.

[33 Watcher]

Quote: Koresh

Perhaps we are getting a little not reliable info about Erdogan's complete victory? Something seems to me that these boats may either be already in Greece asking for asylum, or aiming their missiles at new targets.

The fact that there are separate centers of resistance is known for sure. But how serious are they? Naturally, the Turks are hiding. But, what would the ships be stolen in such numbers, of course yes ...

[AlexTires]

Even if these 14 ships are found, after all the purges, the Turkish army is discarded in development in the medium term and the consequences of the unsuccessful coup, the army as an organizational structure, will disentangle for several years. Given the need to continue the war with the Kurds, this is a rather serious problem.

[Monarchist]

Indeed, the consequences of the putsch will respond for a long time: it is easy to replace one general with another, but it is difficult to replace several thousand trained specialists. Take the purges of 1937, despite great exaggeration, the consequences were felt for at least 2 years. Try for a year to prepare a modern specialist. Let the officers respond: is it easy?

[Mountain shooter]

Wow amount! And if these ... come to the coast of Antalya, a little "Maidan" along the coast? Will the guards shoot back from pistols?

[pig killer]

Information about the Ottoman putsch is getting weirder and weirder every day, as Alice used to say.

[Vadim237]

Only one night, and so many things were turned over and plundered.

[kukan913]

14 ships with a black flag is a TROUBLE for all of which no one knows what they can do, they can start drowning civilian ships and bulk carriers indiscriminately, and the Russian tricolor for them is like a red rag for a bull ... our ships will not be greeted.

[AlexTires]

What is the black flag? Where is it written about? And why did you decide that they would drown everyone indiscriminately? If they happen to do this, they sail as much as they need to be localized from the satellite and catch RCC ... And in general, it seems to me that the news is that you can find 14 ships in the age of space satellites and total tracking only if they sailed to Antarctica on German military base or to the bottom ...

[kukan913]

Do you think that everything and everything from the satellite can be seen hahaha, which they have knocked together like 300 Spartans and are waiting for anchors And black because: Islamist guys love black flags with Arabic script. REMEMBER our revolution when the sailors drowned the ghouls of officers, and then they themselves did not know who to go .....

[kukan913]

yes guys, it will be no laughing matter when he comes around !!! With the plane was already at sea now wait

[dima-fesko]

News for all-scouts. 14 warships (even of small displacement) are not a needle in a haystack, especially at a theater of operations (Syria, the Black Sea, the Strait, etc.). Fleets of other countries would have long been extorted by them (found, especially since this is the fleet of the NATO country). News for grandmother on a bench. If they disappeared, NATO would have declared a combat alert, at least. (think about it - a week is almost a combat squadron without supervision). Remember our fugitive ....

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: dima-fesko

) Remember our fugitive ....

It is not so easy to sink 14 ships, they can draw a good answer. Most likely they know where they are negotiating. NATO ships will not shoot at NATO ships. NATO’s authority will collapse.

[dima-fesko]

I agree. If this is not a duck, then the place of deployment (drift, course, etc.) is known to the relevant military powers, and they are already on the gun, and if this is true then the shooting and navigation, control systems have long been disabled .... (for fugitives)

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: dima-fesko

and if this is true then the shooting and navigation systems, controls have been disabled for a long time ..

How so?

[AlexTires]

Quote: dima-fesko

shooting and navigation systems, controls have long been disabled .... (for fugitives)

the fugitives themselves disconnected, or Erdogan from the shore?

[dima-fesko]

Both are possible. Of course, nobody canceled the course laying on the map (pencil, ruler and protractor). But this gives a big error. Sailing of a ship (ship), sea currents, drift, etc., lag error, sea swell give an error. In 2-4 hours and deviation in the open sea can be from 1,5 to 2 nautical miles. The satellite transmits the exact coordinates of your location to the ship, and certain adjustments are made. The same guidance on the target (unless of course within the limits of the means of own detection of targets).
Disclaimer - I am not a navigator and not a navigator !!! Correct if I'm wrong.

[Alex_Tug]

I am not a navigator and not a navigator !!!

They don’t have a GPS receiver? And the smartphone will do.

[Vadim237]

NATO shoots at NATO - it is not NATO.

[kukan913]

Put on NATO, the main thing is not in the Black Sea and not on our shores

[Monarchist]

I agree: now there is a hidden bidding.

[33 Watcher]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

NATO ships will not shoot at NATO ships. NATO's authority will collapse.

I think it’s not a matter of authority, they have the same spiritual organization, the last time they fought a naval battle ..?
Laughter and more.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

NATO authority will collapse.

Yes, the namesake, as it were, would collapse ... Or maybe not .. But the air defense of a NATO country was shot down by a plane of another NATO country, and ... in short, there is a precedent.

[kukan913]

And what actions should be carried out by the neighbors in the alliance in the event of a coup d'etat in the country of Turkey, I will answer NOT ANYTHING, the guys are sitting in Europe and watching who is SILENT. And neither grandmother should be shy, we are all smart and cultured people and still PLEASANT to tears.

[bk316]

Yes, rut is everything, where to hide 14 ships in the World Cup?
If only to drown .....

[Dmitriy66]

you need to look at the Old Man in the Belorussian Sea, where shrimp are caught .....

[avva2012]

Yes, rut is everything, where to hide 14 ships in the World Cup?
If only to drown .....

[alexey water]

There are no free berths in Novorossiysk? Can these "lost" be invited there.))

[pavelty]

The British media, they are like British scientists ...

[Alexey RA]

Quote: pavlentiy

The British media, they are like British scientists ...

So writes The Times ... © Mrs. Hudson

[Alexey RA]

Heh heh heh ... I hope the Turkish sailors did not revive glorious traditions: the ships that appear only in the documents are flying Dutch with crews of dead souls.

[Moore]

Maybe they, according to the old Black Sea tradition, will eventually be drawn in Konstanz?

[Makarov]

The British do not even know where which fleet is? it’s not even funny) Do they really shelter if the conflict drags on and escalates between the Turks and the matrons? or sink like the Russian fleet in the Revolution?

[cheburator]

Parted, like ships in the sea !!! It would be a desire, would be found quickly! In general, this is for everyone, as if lost, they will not after all tell the details of what how much. Who should know by rank - they know, but for the rest - so far they’re lost.

[Dada]

Che! Did you believe Erdogan? Crimea, get ready.

[vasilev]

The fleet of flying Dutchs has replenished by 14 units. Maybe in Ukraine they need to be looked for, especially since there are some exercises there, and the ships are dumb.

[Vadim237]

These would have started them up for scrap right away.

[Prince of Pensions]

Quote: Kars

Modern ships are not sailboats) they will not be able to stay at sea for a long time. I would suggest the Cyprus People's Republic) but hardly. It would be ridiculous if they went into pirates)

And they will start to squeeze the ships, and save gold.

[kukan913]

We are here fantasizing, laughing, laughing, and this bunch of NATO ships not controlled by anyone plows the waters of the world okey, if there is one, and sailors on ships are a motley mass and who and where will go is not clear, and God forbid they will turn out to be stubborn Islamists, who will drown the unwanted in the sea and will not navigate the "Turkish WINTER Palace."

[voronbel53]

Quote: kukan913

God forbid they will turn out to be stubborn Islamists who will drown the unwanted in the sea and will not navigate the "Turkish WINTER Palace"

The Islamists would not have needed to hijack the ships, they together with Erdogan and support his policy. But, whoever supported the putsch, those can, if they don’t agree on anything with Erdogan, then they will have nothing to lose then ...

[Cananecat]

And for me it’s so obvious a bargain is between the ships and Erdogan. And this torus is not in favor of the latter, therefore they are silent. 14 warships is not a dozen tanks on the street, and it is impossible to sink and capture is problematic. Do not forget that Erdogan and the GDP discussed this coup, the question of why should they discuss it?

[Machete]

14 lost and nobody cares about NATO?
ISIS now has its own fleet?

[Vadim237]

If we find them, we will take them as a payment for the downed Su 24.

[Machete]

In principle, ships cannot be lost. Moreover, the squadron.
Radars, satellites are all forked, they all know.
Another thing, everyone is silent.

[Komynist]

Something stir up these Turks, it is a fact! Carabbles could not get lost in our time, especially with such weapons. Well, either some internal fussing or dirty tricks are being prepared. But I am inclined to the first.

[Executer]

Yes, they themselves sent them to joint NATO exercises and forgot in the bustle ...

[iskander491]

14 ships are not tethered. Very strange. They will flop us down now, and then they will say how they are rebels with a shot down fighter. And the fact that the rebellion is rigged is very similar. 14 ships from the Turkish fleet is about nothing. They have more ships than we had on the Black Sea and remain. go into the bay of Sevastopol pakotsat us. As a variant! and then the rebels will say it, not the suicide bombers. And it was not your Russian fleet that they went to drown, but rabid dogs were furious. How much, under a successful set of circumstances, can they sink in the raids of ships, and ???

[Vadim237]

Then we will have every right to sink them.

[Air Force Colonel]

You talk or rave. Wake up first. And then komenty komenty.

[sergeyzzz]

Now they are driving cheaply to the Chinese and remember the name And besides jokes, I was always interested in the question of why it is impossible to put a device emitting a signal in an accident on a plane or ship so that it can be easily detected.

[donavi49]

So, there are emergency beacons. But they are turned off. Since, most likely, part or all of the team went over to the side of the rebels, they will not be included. And if you make a non-disconnect transponder, then greetings will fly along it, that is, this will call into question the combat value of the ship.

[Dark]

But is not a 14-ship provocation preparing against our warships in the Mediterranean? Type Turkey is not to blame for the sdes here, these are rebels!

[colonel manuch]

14 ships are definitely not a needle in a haystack, everyone who needs to know where they are will know. But they can arrange a provocation against the Russian ships, especially if "someone" promises not to scold them strongly. I wonder if suddenly they (the most fantastic option!) Ask for shelter in our ports?

[Air Force Colonel]

If the Atlantic is a service. That Black Sea is generally a teaspoon. Where to hide there? Unless they left for Russia. The satellites of the NATO company NATO all died.

[evge-malyshev]

It cannot be that such an "armada" of ships is not illuminated by satellites. Something is wrong here...

[Leonid Har]

"If they hit, run!" The Turkish captains have learned this well.
Well, the search for a conspiracy in the army of any country has never contributed to high combat efficiency.