NI has identified 5 states that will have the most powerful armies by 2030.

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The National Interest magazine suggested what the balance of military forces will be like for 2030 g, when the main armies of the planet adapt to changes in the nature of hostilities, reports RIA News.

“Since the end of the Cold War, the focus of military operations has shifted. Nowadays, it is relatively rare to see situations in which two military forces doctrinal and technologically similar to each other collide in the battle for territory. Preparing for the conduct of hostilities of such a plan is still important, but counterinsurgency and police operations are gradually coming to the fore, ”the magazine writes.

The authors of the article explain that “the rating methodology is based on three questions: does the army have access to national resources (including an innovative technological base), does it have sufficient support from political authorities (which would not deprive the army of independence from power) and whether it has the ability to conduct tests of innovative developments in real conditions ".

Russia

“After the end of the Cold War, the Russian army had to go through a difficult period of transformation and restore its access to resources,” the newspaper notes.

“In the conditions of economic growth, the army received an influx of investments, and reforms of elite troops in different years allowed Russia to conduct two successful operations in Chechnya and South Ossetia,” the researchers write.

They believe that "in the future, ground troops may face problems of access to the technologies of the Russian military-industrial complex, which is only being restored after the collapse of the USSR and the Soviet military-industrial complex." Nevertheless, "the Russian army will retain its advantages for a long time - the size and psychological strength of the personnel."

NI has identified 5 states that will have the most powerful armies by 2030.


USA

The US Army “will retain its status as the most powerful land unit of the world by 2030. The high readiness of the American army will be provided by a developed system of innovations in the military-industrial complex, which are accessible to all units of the United States armed forces - the Navy, Air Force and Marine Corps, analysts say.

In addition, the US Army is "in shape" because it has been fighting 15 for years in the war on terror in Iraq and Afghanistan, and this is the longest period of constant fighting since the days of the Indian Wars. " However, “constant tension carries many threats, including the complete exhaustion of a unit as a result of ongoing wars, such as the Iraqi and Afghan campaigns,” the article says.



China

“Like the US Army, the PLA ground forces share a resource base with fleet and the air force. With the transformation of China into one of the richest and most dynamically developing economies in the world, a revolution took place in the armed forces, which gained access to financing and the innovation sector, finally becoming a modern military organization in the 2000s, ”writes NI.

According to the authors, "the main advantage of the PLA is still its scale - almost no country in the world has a larger army, the disadvantage is the lack of combat experience that was last obtained in the Sino-Vietnamese War (1979)".



India

What the Chinese army does not have, there is plenty in the Indian Armed Forces: “the Indian ground forces carried out counterinsurgency operations against the Maoists inside the country and opposed Pakistan-supported forces in Kashmir”.

The disadvantages of the army, researchers attributed its technological backwardness. “The New Delhi gap that has formed in the past is covered by imports - the country has access to the arms markets of Russia, the USA, Europe and Israel, but in the future the country's army will need more innovative developments,” the magazine notes.



France

“In the near future, the French army will become the main army of Europe, will gain control over the military apparatus of the Old World and will determine its security policy,” the authors are sure.

In their opinion, "the full support of the government, who wants to preserve large amounts of investment in the French military-industrial complex, also plays into the hands of the ground forces."

  • RIA News. Vladimir Astapkovich, AP Photo, REUTERS
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  1. +60
    18 July 2016 09: 41
    But where is the Ukrainian army !? how did you forget her !?
    1. +48
      18 July 2016 09: 45
      Quote: mpzss
      But where is the Ukrainian army !? how did you forget her !?

      No, they haven't forgotten. It's just that it is so "great" that they are afraid to even mention it ...
      1. +21
        18 July 2016 09: 53
        Quote: Roman1970
        No, they have not forgotten.
        Everything is much simpler. By 2030 there will be no sovereign Ukraine. What can we say about ukrovermaht ..
        1. -2
          18 July 2016 18: 11
          Fu-fu-fu on a rating from USS ..............
          1. +3
            18 July 2016 22: 42
            In fact, they unjustly forgot Japan, one of the richest countries in the world and one of the leading economies.

            Japan will become the shock fist of the USA and the West (read the Fed) against China and Russia in the 21 century

            It is also worth remembering about Germany. The French army alone will not repeat 1812

            NATO will, as always, consist of all of Europe - and the Germans are the backbone there. Then probably the Turks. Then Hungarians, Scandinavians, etc.

            And against as always - for thousands of years they have not changed anything - all the same peoples - Russians and the steppe with the Caucasus. The truth this time seems to be backed up from the rear by a dubious ally - China
    2. +11
      18 July 2016 09: 49
      It will be like the Baltic states - one and a half tanks and full NATO occupation. Everything goes to this.
    3. +3
      18 July 2016 10: 52
      Quote: mpzss
      But where is the Ukrainian army !? how did you forget her !?


      This is an army of armies! Out of competition! She doesn’t need advertising
      1. +3
        18 July 2016 18: 48
        Quote: arane
        Quote: mpzss
        But where is the Ukrainian army !? how did you forget her !?


        This is an army of armies! Out of competition! She doesn’t need advertising

        It’s time for them to write summons to the Hague for the Donbass, or by agreeing with Angela Merkel, to Nuremberg!
    4. +7
      18 July 2016 13: 08
      Quote: mpzss
      But where is the Ukrainian army !? how did you forget her !?

      They sat in the jury. wassat
      And about the rating ... I’m not sure that the French will be higher than Israel and the DPRK. But the mattresses then live in their reality. Let them continue to scribble their ratings.
      1. +1
        18 July 2016 15: 47
        France has larger aviation and a strong fleet, wider production capabilities. DPRK - although a large army, but stuck in the 70's.
        1. +2
          18 July 2016 18: 20
          Quote: Forest
          France has larger aviation and a strong fleet, wider production capabilities. DPRK - although a large army, but stuck in the 70's.

          The DPRK is intensely rearming and modernizing its troops, and by the year 30, I am not at all sure that they will not have one of the most effective and modern armies. Well, where did the Germans go?
          1. 0
            18 July 2016 20: 31
            But they are re-arming for something more or less suitable for the 80 years, there are neither guided weapons, nor normal aviation. The Germans have a very compact army - about 70 thousand combat personnel.
    5. +2
      18 July 2016 17: 31
      But where is the Ukrainian army !? how did you forget her !?
      Conversation in the article for 2030, and ukroarmiya already now, according to gunpowder, "the most combat-ready" in Europe. Recall hundreds of thousands of "dead Russian special forces" in Donbass, and burned out "Buryat" tank divisions
  2. +15
    18 July 2016 09: 44
    Ultimately, people win, not weapons. All Europe fought the USSR, and so what? But the powder must be kept dry. That is an axiom.
    1. +2
      18 July 2016 11: 37
      Quote: siberalt
      Ultimately, people win, not weapons. All Europe fought the USSR, and so what? But the powder must be kept dry. That is an axiom.

      Your statement is true only for countries that have relatively minor technological differences and the technical equipment of the army. All the same, it is difficult to fight with a saber against a tank ...
      1. +2
        18 July 2016 13: 04
        Quote: Nick
        Quote: siberalt
        Ultimately, people win, not weapons. All Europe fought the USSR, and so what? But the powder must be kept dry. That is an axiom.

        Your statement is true only for countries that have relatively minor technological differences and the technical equipment of the army. All the same, it is difficult to fight with a saber against a tank ...

        Yes, you won’t be able to fight with a saber against a tank in an open field ... However, in the forest, there’s a completely different alignment, if you stretch this process in time ... It really depends on the personal qualities of a warrior! The ability to move stealthily and attack unexpectedly will allow the crew of the tank to be cut out and capture the car in a day or three ... IMHO!
        1. +1
          18 July 2016 16: 53
          Tanks hid in the woods during the day, and at night attacked the brave saber.
          1. +4
            18 July 2016 17: 11
            Tanks, sabers ...,

            the purpose of the military operation is important.

            Until now, they wanted to destroy the Russians physically. Destroy the population of Russia.
            As a result, wars always ended disastrously for aggressors.

            In Europe and America, the goal was to seize power and as a result redirect cash flows to the right piggy bank.

            As a result, they donated countries with little blood.
            In fact, in those wars, the elite fought for the right to own vassals.
            Vassals were needed alive! Otherwise, who will work?

            So, Russian pitchforks are a hundred times stronger than any tank.
        2. 0
          18 July 2016 20: 32
          The thermal imager and the UAV will win in the forest. So again technology wins.
          1. 0
            19 July 2016 15: 29
            Forest

            Against the thermal imager, there are radiation absorbing capes.

            A battle in the forest, if it is not large-scale, depends on the individual training of the soldier. Well, also a city battle.
            1. 0
              19 July 2016 16: 01
              Only these wraps are high-tech clothes, and simply by force of mind they will not appear among the partisans. Yes, and 3 generation thermal imagers, which are on UAVs and tanks, see a difference of a couple of degrees on 300-400 m, and you won’t use a grenade launcher from such a distance.
        3. 0
          19 July 2016 11: 59
          Quote: bovig
          Yes, you won’t be able to fight with a saber against a tank in an open field ... However, in the forest, there’s a completely different alignment, if you stretch this process in time ... It really depends on the personal qualities of a warrior! The ability to move stealthily and attack unexpectedly will allow the crew of the tank to be cut out and capture the car in a day or three ...

          True, but to win one battle does not mean to win the war. Alas ... Cortes conquered the Aztec empire in a small detachment, but armed with guns, arquebuses, shackled in steel armor and using cavalry. The Aztecs were fearless, skillful warriors who conquered almost all of Mexico in the pre-Hispanic period. The Aztecs had a huge numerical superiority but lost. They just did not have firearms, steel armor and horses ...
      2. +1
        18 July 2016 17: 38
        Your statement is true only for countries that have relatively minor technological differences and the technical equipment of the army. All the same, it is difficult to fight with a saber against a tank ...
        Those are quite so. Remember Vietnam. The most modern US army, for almost ten years, could not do anything with the Vietnamese partisans. Of course, the USSR helped technically, and in many ways the victory of Vietnam was due to this support, but the defeat to the states was caused mainly by ordinary Vietnamese with Kalash.
    2. +1
      18 July 2016 12: 52
      However, you contradict yourself, or have quietly smoothed out your original expression! In the age of high technology, your statement about people and technology has lost all meaning! Yes, if your unarmed platoon is a hundred times braver and more courageous, the three cowardly tankers sitting in the tank, you will die! USSR didn’t fight with sticks and stones, and later we lagged behind only in some types of weapons! Until the USSR gained technological power, we retreated and increased our potential .. and then we let everyone crawl out! A hundred fearless wars with axes will not work for a hundred meters to a couple of machine gunners! Courage and courage are still in the leading roles, but by no means in the first place, but in the first place when they fought with swords!
  3. +25
    18 July 2016 09: 45
    how they already got bored with these "analyzes" the battle of psychics is straight
    1. +10
      18 July 2016 10: 31
      + + +
      What is the article about ?! They described superficially several armies of the world, and suggested that the same situation would be by 2030.
      This is called "you don't know what to write about, well, at least fart into a puddle" ...
      Good day!
    2. 0
      18 July 2016 11: 01
      Quote: KrSk
      how they already got bored with these "analyzes" the battle of psychics is straight

      What article, such and a resource to see. There is no serious information, so at least they would laugh. And so a lot of crap. We came up with indicators and count on a calculator.
      What are the French, where did they come from? Are they ready to fight, die? Well, the Foreign Legion is a frozen compound, that's all.
      Germany, Turkey quietly smoke on the sidelines? The Turks will make the French even today, at least 20 years later. Erdogan does not want to do nice.
      And the armies of Japan by 2030. not dream of?
      And it seems to me Psheks on not their dead technique of the French will wind up on caterpillars together with the vaunted Foreign Legion.
      By the way, maybe they are so fighting only against us.
    3. +3
      18 July 2016 11: 05
      It would be better if these "analysts" did not write about the "times of the Indian wars." For the States, these times are an indelible disgrace.
    4. +1
      18 July 2016 13: 18
      Exactly ..... some kind of nonsense. If nothing grandiose happens by 2030, the world will find a balance like in the USA-USSR, only now there will be a counterbalance in the face of Russia, it still exists, but in the near future the Russian Federation will definitely reach the level of the USSR.
    5. +1
      18 July 2016 18: 44
      Quote: KrSk
      how they already got bored with these "analyzes" the battle of psychics is straight

      Yes. Hounded. Did a search by ratings. On one site: Vietnam -23; Iran - 22; Ukraine - 21.
      I could not cry, I laughed. This is how a whale and an elephant are brought together. Where is the elephant. And if Nezalezhnaya enters Vietnam, how thickly do they stuff it and finely insist on it? Because Vietnam will definitely not go anywhere, people are healthy there. And how do we know otherwise who is stronger and who is right, and who is so on. Rating is good when we are in the top five. What we decide. We can come to you! Rave. While the RF Armed Forces (well, alas, something like that) are at a level dangerous to the United States, the world can sleep peacefully. Because after the last demonstrations, they will think for a very long time, and allow themselves ..., or to think over options again.
  4. +2
    18 July 2016 09: 45
    This is under the condition that nothing critical will happen during this time (war, coups, change of world order). The forecast is completely useless.
    1. +1
      18 July 2016 10: 31
      They forgot to calculate the numbers in the US Army, they have another occupation, not before the war. You can drape with advanced equipment, the main soldier in the war!
    2. +1
      18 July 2016 17: 50
      This is under the condition that nothing critical will happen during this time (war, coups, change of world order). The forecast is completely useless.
      That's for sure. For 15 years in our rapidly changing world, three world warriors and a dozen crises can happen. Of course, I exaggerate this, but the USSR in the active phase collapsed in four years, and in the Western world I dare not notice everything is fragrant, it can explode at any time. Moreover, the war is already on the nose, all world politicians are making such statements, and the Western press does not hesitate to write about it. And the article is really frank nonsense, an obviously couch analyst wrote, and also a schoolboy.
  5. +6
    18 July 2016 09: 46
    France is pretty weird here.
  6. +14
    18 July 2016 09: 46
    French army ???????? French people????
    1. +8
      18 July 2016 10: 17
      "... and these are also winners?" But then the brave paddling pools played back on
      French girls who walked with the invaders.
      1. -1
        18 July 2016 12: 01
        Among the paddling pools was "Normandy-Neman" remember? And about the girls who walked with the invaders ... alas, we had enough of them.
        1. +11
          18 July 2016 12: 30
          Quote: Monarchist
          Among the paddling pools was "Normandy-Neman" remember? And about the girls who walked with the invaders ... alas, we had enough of them.

          The personnel of the Normandy-Niemen squadron consisted of 72 French volunteers. At the same time, French units fought on the side of the Germans, including the Legion of French LVF Volunteers of 7 thousand people, who were also noted in the battle of Moscow!
          1. +4
            18 July 2016 17: 33
            Quote: Stas157
            Quote: Monarchist
            Among the paddling pools was "Normandy-Neman" remember? And about the girls who walked with the invaders ... alas, we had enough of them.

            The personnel of the Normandy-Niemen squadron consisted of 72 French volunteers. At the same time, French units fought on the side of the Germans, including the Legion of French LVF Volunteers of 7 thousand people, who were also noted in the battle of Moscow!

            A plus. I will add the 33rd grenadier division of ss Charlemagne, the remains of which until the last Reich Chancellery were defended.
    2. -4
      18 July 2016 10: 25
      Do you know why a man has such a face? I don’t. You can’t throw photos from those years at random!
      1. +12
        18 July 2016 10: 41
        Quote: voyaka23
        Do you know why a man has such a face? I don’t. You can’t throw photos from those years at random!

        And is that more understandable?
      2. +4
        18 July 2016 10: 42
        I searched about the photo: "French civilians at the Nazis entering Paris during World War II."
      3. +13
        18 July 2016 11: 08
        I don’t give a damn about his face and why (maybe Mademoiselle didn’t .. refuse). The main thing in another Pavlov’s house is that our soldiers (platoon) defended longer than the French army gobbled up frogs throughout the country.
        1. +5
          18 July 2016 11: 40
          Quote: Mercenary
          The main thing in another Pavlov’s house was that our soldiers (platoon) defended for longer than the French army that consumed frogs throughout the country.

          But the French army, together with the British (formerly in France), having tens of thousands of soldiers and officers, having abandoned artillery, tanks and the motherland, vigorously sailed across the English Channel and hid in Britain.
    3. +5
      18 July 2016 11: 05
      Quote: RuslanNN
      French army ???????? French people????

      The French army in the 30s, before the 2nd World War was considered the strongest in Europe. The German army marched after Poland and the Soviet Union. Nevertheless, Hitler made his own corrections to this calculation.
    4. 0
      18 July 2016 15: 37
      DE HOLLE !! helped them !!!! wink but alas they are not him !!!! wink wink wink
  7. +6
    18 July 2016 09: 49
    as for the French, the issue is controversial, the Germans will push, and the Yankees will be powerful, provided they maintain the status of a printing press of international money
  8. +3
    18 July 2016 09: 51
    The French studies were similar.
  9. +3
    18 July 2016 09: 54
    Probably the editor of the NI coffee grounds spilled and thought ... but, hell, no ... So this opus appeared!
    1. +1
      18 July 2016 10: 07
      Quote: nachtigalsif
      Probably the editor of the NI coffee grounds spilled and thought ... but, hell, no ... So this opus appeared!

      It seems like they are not only using thick ... A resource that is absolutely useless in terms of analytics, which they like to quote in the Russian press.
  10. +8
    18 July 2016 09: 55
    "But from the taiga to the British seas
    The Red Army is the strongest of all !!! "
  11. +9
    18 July 2016 09: 57
    "... The American army" by 2030 will retain its status of the most powerful ... "
    .... a gathering of homosexuals, lesbians, transgender people ...
    1. +2
      18 July 2016 10: 41
      Quote: starogil
      "... The American army" by 2030 will retain its status of the most powerful ... "
      .... a gathering of homosexuals, lesbians, transgender people ...

      ... and bearded women !? forgot? mess ...
      1. -2
        18 July 2016 17: 41
        Quote: CONTROL
        ... and bearded women !? forgot? mess ...

        Really! How so !? (Zhvanetsky)

        http://www.riw.ru/russia_events131864.html
        1. 0
          18 July 2016 20: 52
          Yes, no, he’s a man, his father is even) Well, with a mental disorder, this is a fact)
    2. 0
      18 July 2016 22: 50
      Quote: starogil
      "... The American army" by 2030 will retain its status of the most powerful ... "
      .... a gathering of homosexuals, lesbians, transgender people ...
  12. 0
    18 July 2016 10: 11
    In France, the police cannot and cannot do anything, so what can they say about the army! America, what form is it! Yes, they can bomb wedding trains and columns of excavators, they can also work on poppy fields in Afghanistan, but when they encounter more or less combat-ready troops, where are the Yankees? That's right, in full anal!
    1. 0
      18 July 2016 12: 12
      The French police successfully collaborated with the occupiers and there they were more effective than now by various pseudo-Islamic groups. Although they "courageously" surrounded our fans and cheerleaders.
  13. 0
    18 July 2016 10: 13
    And where dill has gone. After all, now she protects all of Europe. From the barbarians and the most powerful army.
  14. 0
    18 July 2016 10: 17
    In addition, the US Army is "in shape" as it has been fighting a war against terror in Iraq and Afghanistan for 15 years, the longest period of sustained combat since the Indian Wars. "
    A curtain.
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    3. -1
      18 July 2016 16: 41
      Reptiles in front of a star-striped minus?))
  15. 0
    18 July 2016 10: 17
    It is time, in my opinion, to PROHIBIT to use on VO articles from such an unreliable source as NI. Amazingly incompetent edition.
  16. 0
    18 July 2016 10: 18
    , like all previous ones in the NI magazine on military topics
  17. +2
    18 July 2016 10: 28
    I agree ... the French, then what side? .. of course it's interesting sometimes to read what they think about us and our army ... I recommend downloading the Inosmi application, there is also a military section ... from "yes, this is a relic of the Soviet army on modernized firewood" , until "yes, if they want, they will take the Baltic states in a day, what to do? The Russians are coming" .. to be honest, as a resident of the Far East .. NATO is only capable of piling up in a crowd (Serbia, Iraq, Afghanistan). and despite their advanced technologies ( AWACS, electronic warfare, missile defense, shock UAVs, GMLRS, JDAM, etc., etc.) they are all very sensitive to losses ... what can be said about the neighbors across the Amur River ... and if in the early 90s in the school told us that they take only in bulk, everyone in Shanghai, a bag of rice around their neck, an automatic rifle and a couple of grenades, then watching every evening on their central CCTV channel something like our "Serving Russia", you are simply amazed ... a huge jump .. copies of Kalash only from their border guards and railway troops (about 1,5 million), the whole army is 5,8mm Bulppap .. we have 106 rszo cm erch (or so) for the whole of the Russian Federation..on the Far East at a maximum of a third of course..they have PHL-03 also about a hundred, but 40 pszo A-100..both 300mm, only if our Tornado --- Tornado-With new shells gives 90 km, and the one that is not waiting for 120 km with GLONASS, then they are shot at 130 km .. there are both with KOBE and SPBE .. according to the agreement, the troops must be from the border 100 km and further .. so we have, besides BAM and so the entire infrastructure is up to 100 km, that is, with the beginning it is clear what, everything will remain in the PPD ... and no S-300,400 ... Pantyri and Torah will not help ... in Batko, without hesitation, he took the Chinese MLRS A-200 as a basis and called "Polonaise", not sickly for a 220 km rszo .. this already gives so much, but they want to make up to 300, and the belief will be done .. in China there is a lot of competition between manufacturers of these devices, they have a rszo for 400 beats .. presented .. salvo of the regiment of MLRS 400 with cluster warheads ... and we all can not give birth to a projectile at 120 km ... I've been reading about it for ten years already ... but what can I say, the DPRK presented MLRS "KN-09", eight missiles, range up to 200 , this is immediately Paul Yu Korea at gunpoint .. and this country is really under sanctions ... I'm not talking about the Chinese Air Force, thanks to us they made a huge leap again, they now have our DRYERS and their clones, more than we have all over the country .. well, about the fleet and talk not hunting, of course it's good when we hand over new ships, but at what pace they are doing, and what class ... but experience, turn it around watching their TV you understand that with such training it will come very quickly ... well, and AWACS, electronic warfare, SLCM , strike UAVs, the same long-range MLRS, including those with high-precision shells, they make, and sell very well (Pakistan, Thailand, Armenia, Venezuela) .. Chinese MANPADS and ATGMs in Syria shot down planes and helicopters just as well governments and burned T-72 ... that's such a thing people .. well, but the fact that in Chinese schools on the maps of Siberia and the Far East are not indicated the Russian Federation, but TEMPORARILY annexed territories .. and NATO, and so soon it will collapse after the EU. . there they are dear ... also to me "golden billion" ..
  18. 0
    18 July 2016 10: 33
    And what will be the most arrogant army?
    1. 0
      18 July 2016 15: 56
      Of course Indian! Each monkey with a grenade will be demolished, then sorted out by who and where. They grabbed all kinds of weapons and everything was small, but small.
  19. 0
    18 July 2016 10: 34
    In the last photo: the soldier’s body armor does not cover ... the ass! And when it hits it - say, with a fragment of a mine that exploded behind its back - it hurts ... and the wound is quite serious ...
    ... ill-conceived outfit!
  20. 0
    18 July 2016 10: 35
    I am afraid, as it were, in the light of recent events on the site of Ukraine, there has not been an expanded exclusion zone, in which the areas around the former Chernobyl nuclear power plant will be considered the most favorable conditions for short-term location. All other nuclear power plants that switched to American nuclear fuel ... I will not say that.
  21. -1
    18 July 2016 10: 35
    By the 30th year, the United States will no longer be. Mistake, sir.
  22. 0
    18 July 2016 10: 35
    Source of publication of some kind ... NI! hh ...
  23. +3
    18 July 2016 10: 38
    “They believe that“ in the future, the ground forces may face problems with access to technologies of the Russian military-industrial complex, which is only recovering after the collapse of the USSR and the Soviet military-industrial complex. ”Nevertheless,“ the Russian army will retain its advantages for a long time - size and psychological strength personnel "". (from)
    NI data of the high-ranking service station, as if they didn’t notice that our army was reequipping with leaps and bounds, but we are holding on to the old Soviet groundwork.
    1. 0
      18 July 2016 17: 35
      Moreover, it is not clear where they got the advantage in size. 800 servicemen in the Russian Federation, against 000 in the United States, is a "large" army, especially considering the size of the Russian Federation.
      The zerg of us are bastards.
  24. +3
    18 July 2016 10: 39
    Well, according to the article .. India I think it will not be in the top five, they have a confrontation and border problems with both Pakistan and China .. yes the army is large, and the most modern is grabbed by everyone who sells .. but looking at their parades and action calculation of the 155mm howitzer FH-77, you understand that this is not an army, but one big pont .. I think if the pace is maintained, it will be something like this: China, USA, Russia .. from NATO I do not see a single country that would think about its VS .. they all rely on a friend from across the ocean ... but to have such a friend, you don’t need enemies either ..
    1. 0
      18 July 2016 11: 16
      (+) I wouldn’t change the places of the armies of China, Russia, or the United States. And I would add the Germans, the army is certainly not the same but the scientific potential + sometimes not the logical discipline of the Germans, in 10 years they can make Europe’s strongest army, taking into account Brexit and the collapse of the EU!
      1. 0
        18 July 2016 12: 20
        I agree: instead of a frog army, we must put the Bundeswehr.
  25. 0
    18 July 2016 10: 45
    ..and where did the second sammayaya most powerful army of geyropa go? ..
  26. 0
    18 July 2016 10: 57
    Oh, these are me onalitags! They counted everything on paper and on calculators .... only the real war always spits on all sorts of theoretical calculations of all sorts of couch specialists. By all calculations on paper, Hitler was supposed to roll out the Red Army in a maximum of three months ... well, where is that Hitler and where are all the wise calculations of his generals?
  27. 0
    18 July 2016 11: 23
    In addition, the US Army is "in shape" as it has been fighting the war against terror in Iraq and Afghanistan for 15 years.

    after that he even stopped reading. In one sentence they expressed their true place as "experts". How can you draw conclusions about an army that has been fighting terrorists for 15 years ???????
    3 points:
    1) the army of Syshya a priori can not fight with terrorists, because it's like pounding yourself in the snout.
    2) even taking into account that they are fighting (imagining), the war on terror is by no means an indicator for the potential of the army. Only a war with a standing adversary - an army of a state close in potential (the Russian Federation, China, India) will show the truth.
    3) the duration of the war on terror: for 15 years it was possible to mow it completely. I am sure that even in NI I understand the truth of terrorism, who created it and why!

    In short amateurs complete. Now NI equals spam to me.
    1. 0
      18 July 2016 17: 46
      They are not dilettants - they are Republicans, they practice brainwashing, talk about the Russian threat and the incredible power of the United States. Constantly concerned about the "leadership" of America, believing that all the problems are from the lack of this very "leadership". Judging by their little articles, any conflicts are resolved by supplying "defensive" weapons to "moderate oppositions", Obama is a rag, Reagan is a fine fellow, single-handedly destroying the USSR, etc., etc.

      Achievement: end the sentence with 3 abbreviations or / and abbreviations))
      1. 0
        19 July 2016 09: 12
        Quote: Uryukc
        they practice brainwashing, talk about the Russian threat and the incredible power of the United States

        That is all clear. Simply, if Sharashka does an analysis of something, then you want an unbiased opinion and real assessments, and they draw conclusions from nonexistent things.
        In our case, such conclusions should generally be ignored and not clutter up the media space.
        Infa that Galkin is pregnant from Pugacheva and that has much useful content.
        Quote: Uryukc
        Achievement: end the sentence with 3 abbreviations or / and abbreviations))

        I don’t understand ....
  28. 0
    18 July 2016 11: 46
    Eternal if yes if only ...
    Americans how many wars have already profiled after World War II?
    Only the Iraqis were dealt with, who had weapons of the 50s. Heroes
    Now all the armies of the largest countries in the region are developing and no one knows who will be cooler.
    Only NATO armies are in stagnation.
    Although they frighten us many times overwhelmingly, the enemy’s forces, but over the past decades, military spending has been reduced there and armies have been reduced. And the weapon, as it was with them, remained. Almost nothing new.
    So they are hysterical over the fact that over the past 10 years we have adopted many types of new weapons.
  29. 0
    18 July 2016 11: 56
    all these ratings from the category of self praise, no one will praise.
  30. 0
    18 July 2016 11: 57
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    It is time, in my opinion, to PROHIBIT to use on VO articles from such an unreliable source as NI. Amazingly incompetent edition.

    Interesting! Who are the objective comments minus here?
  31. +1
    18 July 2016 12: 06
    German army ????? Dear Mercenary, believe it’s not that army anymore .. in the 80s, yes, power ... the second in NATO in quantity and quality .. there were only 2500 at that time Leopards-2 of which were not from one of our military men, including teachers who graduated from the Academy of Armored Forces at the time with a gold medal, I heard very good reviews about Leo-2.. to hear the cadet SUCH was a shock .. equipment, thermal imagers, a suspension bracket, an engine .. this is not to be taken away from the Germans .. although of course the barn he’s the same one .. if Syria’s low t-72s are the only way to catch Tou, then they can’t be missed in Leo-2 either. so now the Germans sold all their tanks and kept about 250 !!!!! .... save. .. without making these tanks for how many years, they occupy not the last places in sales .. with the Air Force the same story .. Tornado firewood from birth, Eurofighter more or less .. therefore if the triple: the People’s Republic, the United States, the Russian Federation and put someone, then Turkey, and possibly Yu.Koreyu ... although looking at videos about the DPR army, I am simply amazed how they can hold such an army ... and I have already said above, managing to make weapons of almost world level nya..new RCC (well, very similar to our X-35), new ATGM (guidance in the laser path like Cornet), new long-range 8-barrel RSZO (~ 200km) .. well, I’ll keep silent about their special forces .. Americans the scenarios of the beginning of the war of the north and south were repeatedly lost, with the southerners and the northerners beginning to help, of course, the help of the usa was unambiguous .. it seems the RAND corporation worked out the money, and these guys are very corrosive .. so there was always one result ... and I played special forces of the north
  32. 0
    18 July 2016 12: 24
    And how did they evaluate strength?
    By the number of tanks, planes?
    Will the French have thousands of tanks, hundreds of planes, a million infantry?

    Where is the french flag here?
    (below picture)
  33. 0
    18 July 2016 12: 27
    http://alternate-politics.info/content/gde_tanki_petr_alekseevich
  34. 0
    18 July 2016 12: 31
    In my opinion, it is more accurate to include the Israeli army in the top five: of course, it is modest in number, but their development (the same "Dome") is at a high level. If we take combat experience, then again they have great. Although let Atalef or someone else from Israel tell about the Israeli army. It is also worth turning on the army of the FRG: industrial potential and German discipline are not for you halam balam
    1. 0
      18 July 2016 17: 53
      Quote: Monarchist
      of course she’s modest in number,

      Total regular armed forces: 176,5 thousand
      Reserve: 565 thousand people
      still modest? smile
  35. +1
    18 July 2016 12: 36
    The article is empty, I put "-", - this is not analytics, but just chatter, "great five" by the year 30 will not work, "3" or "10" are possible, but I will not develop my idea, there is a lot of work.
  36. +1
    18 July 2016 13: 16
    I also vote for Israel ... the IDF always has something to learn, the state exists only thanks to the army ... the military-industrial complex sometimes creates such revolutionary things that sometimes you wonder why no one came to this before ... again, he always said and no one will convince .. to invent and adopt this is one thing, but to start mass deliveries to the troops is completely different .. when the Arena was invented, probably the beginning of the 80s ?? .. and where are they .. how many lives would have been saved in the Caucasus. .and in Syria .. and only the IDF puts on its "Merkavas" ... what, mothers still give birth? .. so they will not have time .. now the wars are fast .. from several days to several months .. about partisanism we will not .. this is sluggish ... and the Israeli military-industrial complex gave the world such wonderful things (again in large quantities) such as UAVs, unmanned boats and ground vehicles, EXTRA, ACCULAR, TCS missiles ... the SPIKE ATGM family (the latter was especially pleased for the department), in comparison with which American "Javelin" is resting, mines for mortars with ready-made fragments of "Kofram" (and this is in the early 80s, I understand I am now putting balls, rollers, cubes, shooters into ammunition and all and sundry, but not everyone could put into mortar mines and shells of cannon artillery, and in the latter, given the loads when fired, the Yuarians were the first to pile, but this is a separate topic), and of course cluster munition M85 (I honestly do not understand the persecution of these good and effective ammunition, you might think that when a FAB-500 or 155 (152) mm projectile bursts, the fragments flying at a breakneck speed come with a fragile human body very humanely), come up with an ammunition with a built-in self-liquidator and start to cram it into everything that is possible: shells, and missiles for MLRS, and air cassettes, and mortar mines, and both the NATO standard and the standards of the former Warsaw Pact, money rules the world, and Soviet weapons on the planet still th..https: //youtu.be/8HCaGR-QTTE
  37. -1
    18 July 2016 13: 42
    As I understand it, Hans was completely written off.
  38. 0
    18 July 2016 14: 19
    Not that German right now .. not that
  39. +2
    18 July 2016 17: 04
    I agree with the previous speakers - instead of France, Israel! Moreover, if you look "in perspective", then the French Bobik against the Jewish Barsik simply has no chance! The Zionists, in addition to colossal combat experience, also have "the right brains", which is clearly lacking in the current French "colleagues"? Yes, and in matters of counter-terrorist work and security, France compared with Israel in a deep LiveJournal (crisis). Also the French have no legislative bodies. they did not draw conclusions from the terrorist attacks, the Israelis have a radically tough reaction - at the beginning you shoot, and then read the constitutional rights?
  40. 0
    18 July 2016 18: 08
    Quote: voyaka23
    Do you know why a man has such a face? I don’t. You can’t throw photos from those years at random!

    Talk to you and your wife, and you to contact strangers. The photo shows the reaction of the French to the German parade in Paris, judging by the inscription. Here everyone expresses his point of view, justifying it. Our soldiers in the Brest Fortress, Pavlov’s house and other places defended much longer than the whole of France, for your information.
  41. +1
    18 July 2016 19: 06
    It's hard to believe in such ratings. It is rather complacency. Well, let them be the "first". But the point is that they will get the first number anyway! When homosexuals, transvestites and transsexuals are in the army, then let them fight with the Russian soldier. Who has a sarter under any bush and a dining room in any meadow! ... There, under the stinking burdocks, we will bury them!
  42. -1
    18 July 2016 19: 28
    More about the IDF ... the last conflicts ... Lebanon 2006 ... the enemy has: massively anti-tank systems, there are UAVs, many different missiles, but what can I say ... everyone is shocked by an anti-ship missile strike on a warship ... radio intelligence centers (and based on ordinary equipment for testing cellular networks by workers of these networks (if you can see a herd of 300-400 mobile phones working in one place on the map, then you don’t need seven spans in the forehead - this is the IDF battalion ... bring the Grad and you will be happy ... families of soldiers in first of all, graze on the enemy's websites in order to find out whether their son was wounded or killed (and the enemy just listens to the broadcast and knows who the ambulance is going for or the helicopter is flying after, and immediately spreads it out) ... and Gaza-2009 .... the first KAZ appeared Trophy on tanks .. "mushrooms" on them, with IR emitters, for the withdrawal of ATGMs ... in the combat zone, NOT ONE SERVICE HAS a phone .. even the generals !!!! .. everything is on radio stations with frequency hopping. ..immediately I remember the war of 888, and where all our commanders (journalists, etc.) are on mobiles .. moreover, many militias and our peacekeepers are on sim kah of the GEORGIAN telecom operator (it is necessary to put the bazookas closer to the border and make the tariffs cheaper, and then through the switchboard in Tbilisi to float ears, having information as they say firsthand) .. and so the Israelis in Gaza-2009 put digital on all ambulances trunk, it seems APCO-25 (recommended by the NSA for law enforcement agencies in the United States, because it is very persistent) ... I also like that psychological war was a strong side ... from the UAV through false base stations, all the mobiles below were pulled in and sms were poured on them starting from: "if you are a militant, then you will die now" and ending "you are in an area on which an air strike will be delivered in 10 minutes, with respect to the IDF" .. trained operators who know Arabic called the numbers below from Israel, and began to roll up subscribers for money for a mobile phone (and not small) to tell if there are militants nearby, how many, what they are armed with, etc. glistening terrain, broadcasting radio and television broadcasts on the frequencies of companies operating in Gaza ... moreover, with the help of computer graphics and editing of voices, the leadership of the militants was not exposed from the best side ... a channel was opened on YouTube where they clearly showed how militants' mortars were fired from the courtyards of mosques and schools and why it was removed ... The IDF reacts to emerging problems .. and I think it's not shameful to learn from them ..
    1. 0
      18 July 2016 19: 43
      I wonder what the army of Israel will be in what place?
  43. 0
    18 July 2016 19: 31
    and some moments were visible with us when returning the Crimea
  44. 0
    18 July 2016 21: 29
    Quote: Vadim237
    I wonder what the army of Israel will be in what place?

    when I remember how much money is spent on defense from the budget per year, I want to be in last place in the ranking!
    True, neighbors, like Switzerland, are needed for this.
  45. 0
    19 July 2016 11: 54
    "In addition, the US Army is" in shape "as it has been fighting a war against terror in Iraq and Afghanistan for 15 years ..."

    It's hard to argue with The National Interest magazine.

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