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The ninth shaft of the "information wave". Methods and methods of the enemy on the example of a specific article

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Betrayal or stupidity? Maybe laziness or a false sense of superiority drove the author of the article about the Russian athlete Daria Klishina? That knows only the author. The original can be found here.

The ninth shaft of the "information wave". Methods and methods of the enemy on the example of a specific article


foreword


On Wednesday morning, 13 of this month, I, as usual, brewed tea and, having filled my mouth with sandwiches, began to read one of my favorite sites, namely “Military Review”, and what did I notice? Under the “Opinion” rubric, a certain subject who decided to preserve his anonymity posted an 12: 25 13.07.2016 publication of questionable content on the “BO” XNUMX: XNUMX. I was enraged by the rage, but I did not get involved in the controversy under the article, but first decided to investigate the situation, and the author is unknown - with whom to argue?

I read Wikipedia and found Daria Klishina on Facebook. Studied YouTube, TASS and even speed-info. And I realized that the article is not just limping, it beats in the weeping. By the morning of the next day, the article was rolled over and accepted for publication! They will hear me! And anonymous just hair stand on end. It is impossible to offend an anonymous author, and it is convenient and painless to beat.

“Speak already,” the offended reader will say, “Why drive from empty to empty?”

- Another paragraph! And we will proceed to the analysis! Be patient!

Red spoon for dinner. Nobody read, I was nervous: what if the article is irrelevant? Or are moderators waiting for a better moment? And then a tornado in the suburbs, a terrorist attack in Nice! And I am about Russian athletes! Where are we with pork snout and in Kalashny row! But since I said “A”, say “B.” I was right in the first and second! The heavy gears of the TOPVAR administration cranked by the next morning: the author turned up! And even there is a name, a surname and a couple of interesting publications! Meet the "East Wind"!

Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven


We are simple people, we don’t pretend to 100% objectivity, however, we will point out some inconsistencies and roughnesses, both the essence of the article and its form.

Let's start with the name: "Information war in sports": war, military review, publication. Everything is fine and wonderful, the article was moderated, the author was not trampled into the dust, but they gave the people to appreciate this “creation”. According to the comments and evaluation of the article, one can judge, unfortunately, of tendentiousness, in other words, the “crowd effect” worked. About fifteen hundred pluses and three dozen cons. We will simply express the motivation of the "minus": "Such articles have no place on" VO "- they do not fit the subject of the site. Although in this matter the administration is liberal and tolerant in the true meanings of these words! First of all, the author and the reader, then someone else's. There was a poll at the "VO", and everyone who wanted to, expressed his opinion. Most for reasonable variety!

“Daria Klishina is a random soldier with a tattoo on the fifth point” - this is the red flag that was thrown at the bull.

First: We don’t know Darya Igorevnu, thanks to the author that at least I didn’t call Dasha (I take my words back). Second: "Random soldier"? - here an occasional recruit or recruit fits, but not a soldier! In the information war against Russia, it does not participate and is not going to! Third: "Tattoo on the fifth point" - probably the main idea on which the author focuses attention. And we will prove it!

Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they shall be filled.


“First, let me introduce: ... Sweet blonde. At first I was engaged in volleyball due to growth - see 180. But then I switched to athletics. By 13 years Klishina went to Moscow in the school of Olympic reserve. Soon I began to show promising results, but at the moment, its highest rate was 3-place at the World Championships in 2014 year. ”


It seems that the author is “neutral” about the object, and in fact imposes his “opinion” on us, the good and the rubric is so called. But everything should be the limit.

“... Of course, Klishina’s complete background is easy to find in open sources, so she can’t even make a bronze one, but the pedestal on these pages does not make sense.”


Take a good look at your nails. Is it dirt there by chance? But yes. So, the construct: "its dirt is in the public domain." Because of this "dirt" we do not take into account its achievements, right? Her achievements for Russia?

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Клишина,_Дарья_Игоревна

Here and gold and bronze. And the recent Universiade in Kazan 2013, and Cheboksary 2015, and Gothenburg? Well, who does not happen ... Think Europe - this is not the "world", huh?

Caesar - cesarean, god - gods


“In 2010, her coach Olga Shemigon, in an interview with Sport Express, described her ward so much.”

2010 — 1991 = 19 years. Such an age, youthful maximalism, all that. Maybe this is a protest against parental over-custody?

Interview with Darya Klishina 08.03.2012 (21 year). Here (https://youtu.be/41y4taRxI3U) she leads a conversation at a high enough level. Our Daria Igorevna also owns "sports management"!

“... Dasha is a melancholic with a pragmatist, Dasha is such a“ snow queen ”.
Well, the girl didn't look like a child. ”


What side? Mil sir anonymous? (If a person doesn’t post a copy of a passport and a link to his social network page, at the same time without specifying his topkrovny nickname in social networks, he will continue to be anonymous, although insulting such a person in the media will not save him from criminal liability! Therefore, at the request of the moderators, The article has been updated for so long.)

"Already in 2013, Dasha" decided to move to the United States at the IMG Academy in Florida. "


Has she really become a citizen of the USA and lured by the West? (Sergey Shvigun - manager in the Russian Federation, https://youtu.be/4dXHJBu0lrg, Daria Klishina at the IMG Academy.)

There is nothing reprehensible here either. Just advertising. For this, she gets money, but also for advertising sportswear, modeling business ... Do not Americans for free train her?

Daria, according to the author, is a kind of twin of Danila Bagrov’s friend from the film “Brother 2”, which doesn’t think either of Russia, of honor, or of her deceased brother ... But the author does not give reinforced concrete evidence - only vulgar hints:

"... Dasha" loves heat, sea air, fresh breeze, gentle sun - this is her weather "..."


In what context? We hammer in the search engine and we find:

"...All the nuances were agreed with me. ... And, of course, she could not take such a cardinal decision without me. Sometimes it is useful to change the climate, setting, training system. Moreover, Daria loves warmly. Sea air, fresh breeze, gentle sun - this is her weather. Together we made the decision to leave. Daria for training in Florida (USA). She is currently training at the IMG Academy under the overall guidance of Loren Siegreiva ...
... She remains a member of our team, there is not a drop in the star... »


Here the coach takes responsibility and with both hands for the subordinate! But who cares?

"So all the misinterpretations about the lack of capacity of domestic sports bases in this case, by cash."


Maybe the author is trying to play on the unfair distribution of money between people? This is a huge topic for another article, and not the problem personally Daria Klishina:

“From 2014, Klishina, not sparing herself, toured from the Shanghai Golden Grand Prix to ExxonMobil Bislett Games. These competitions are part of the Diamond League series, i.e. are completely commercial. ”


After the “trash” described above, even such success of our athlete turns “having an opinion” into her minus. And the people? What is the people? He eats from the hand of the author and does not disdain. But what about Sharapova? Can it not be removed, does it not participate in commercial tournaments? The author plays on male sexual feelings: one - “nyasha on meldonii”, the other (well, not all black women like it) “NOT-nyasha without meldoniya”, and the third - “bare buttock” sparkles in general, and in the heart is “darkness”.

"... organized by the same International Association of Athletics Federations, which gave a turn to our athletes from the gate."


The finish! The author has only to finish off the victim, opposing the external beauty to the inner content.

Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy


“The first mentions of Klishina in circles that go beyond the boundaries of athletics fans appeared after publishing her interview to such a specific edition as“ Speed ​​Info ”(//www.s-info.ru/star/photo/587/)”.


Gritting my teeth, I read the interview - not particularly clogged up (the girl has our boyfriend, domestic), but at the end of the article is a photo ... "Shamefully!" (Light erotica - I don’t recommend to people who are older than 16) I advise in view of my Orthodox worldview). Girl just 19 years. Many at this time the wind in my head. Anyway. God be with her.

“I don’t know how this publication influenced her career, but a couple of subjects with sticky thoughts and wet dreams clearly added to the circle of Dasha’s athletic success.”


Yutube is full of videos where some sports fans take pictures on the phone, like wet sand from sports sweat sports shorts wet from sweat falls off, including Klishina.

Passing question to the "East Wind": and you, my friend, is not the case of those with sticky hands? Personally, I do not suffer from such nonsense, and I try to bypass such sites, but the author even saw the tattoo! Who about what, and lousy about the bath.

And by that time, she had brought gold to the country a couple of times. Junior record?

“But Klishina found true“ fame ”just now, before the 2016 Olympics of the year.”


I repent myself still not much behind our athletes and athletes watched.

“After the unprecedented removal of the Russian national athletics team and the previous information harassment of our athletes, Klishina was unexpectedly allowed to compete, but under the IOC flag, as Vesti reports (//www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=2774478&cid=680 ) ".


She became “famous” only when she began to persecute the Internet for her words! Follow the link, courtesy of the author:

“According to TASS, the committee received 136 applications from Russian athletes who want to take part in competitions. All of them for a long time passed the doping control abroad. ”


What does Tass write? Secret information that the author does not see the emphasis? Maybe on other sites looking?

“Earlier, the IAAF allowed only the bronze medalist of the European Championship in long jump Daria Klishina, who trains abroad, to international starts.”


More on TASS: http://tass.ru/sport/3443015.

Cutting the levers of logical thinking to the limit. Let's build a logical chain: Klishina in the USA trains at the most famous and prestigious base of the USA, where every athlete is examined with a magnifying glass - she is allowed.

Let's go from the reverse: they didn't let her, found the dope? (Let me remind you, she has been there for three years!) So in the elite academy for top-class athletes there are problems with doping, which means problems with doping for the entire US team.

Bring to the absurd? So: it was removed and the entire US team was discharged automatically! Here is the number! I believe that every sensible person has already understood, Americans are not stupid children, and they will not cut the bitches on which they sit. They seem to be for the law. For the letter, but not for the essence!

And here Darya Igorevna, even if it is seen three times in ugly affairs? Nothing to do with it! And frantic harassment of her in the network - the lot of illogically minded people who are driven only by emotions. Going on pure Lynch trial!

Let's summarize


The author put the Russian athlete in a bad light. This stone is in the face of the Russians. Although the speck is unpleasant, although it is not essential, but it is worth paying attention to the beam in the author's eye.

"The Russian people are a forgiving and kind people, a couple of kind words, and the past offense does not seem so important, mean and insidious."


We were praised, uh! I believe, I believe every beast, but you, hedgehog, I see!

Insult can not be mean and insidious! Insult is a reaction to meanness and deceit. And I thought that an anonymous writer was writing similar materials in the dark dungeons of Guantanamo and did not suspect this. But "East Wind" writes under the Russian flag! Star in shock.

"But where do they know these truths."


Poor Russian people?

"Therefore, the very first words of Klishina were not addressed to the fans, not to the coaches, who saw the future world-class athlete in the 13-year-old girl ...
... The very first impulse of Dasha was addressed to the International Association of Athletics Federations ... "


Link? We are not greedy: as the Russian jumper Daria Klishina all ganged up (https://youtu.be/-upbM05k4tI). This is the TV channel "Rain." Already cling, the author is just a prophet! Check out the video from 12.07.2016!

For there is nothing secret that would not become obvious, nor secret, that would not become known and would not be revealed


“I am truly happy. I want to thank the IAAF for this decision and, of course, my team of agents and sponsors who have supported me throughout this time. ”


It has already been proved above that no one but the Americans is “guilty” in the fact that Daria has the opportunity to act, if not under the Russian flag, but for Russia! (A recent topical news they say that the first is possible!) In addition, another athlete is mentioned in the video of the “Rain” channel, in which, I think, “East Wind” didn’t “poke around under the nails”. It is sometimes useful to visit “Ehi” and “Rains”!

"This is not far from the truth, but, alas, not everything."


This is so far from the truth, but if you tell a lie a thousand times, they will believe. Alas. Now the author again, albeit indirectly, “characterizes” the Russian people:

"Not betrayal, but pragmatism -" check and checkmate, quilted jackets».


Now hiding behind the authorities:

“Who is a traitor? A traitor is a person who has violated loyalty to someone or has not fulfilled his duty to anyone. Even Ushakov and Efremova agree in this definition in their dictionaries. ”


Where without the classical opposition of the successes of the great ancestors (USSR) and their descendants (Klishin, of course):

“… Hasn't the conquest of the Arctic suddenly turned into an eccentric link, and a trip to Florida, on the contrary, a reason for arrogant pride?”


The reader has already forgotten how the author distorted all the facts by pulling out the words of the Russian coach of our athlete from the context? And the parents of Klishina? Is ampere measured current?

If the author stood at arm's length from me, I would, like any honest man ... Eh, emotions! "East Wind" can be a woman, and an old man, and even a child! Was there a lot of "Crimeans - the daughters of officers"? Inhale - exhale. Inhale - exhale.

“So traitor Klishin or not?”


Well, obviously not! After all, her goal - gold at the Olympics! Both parents and domestic coaches did it for the sake of it and continue to support it. And if Klishin doesn’t come out, then he will become a traitor to both his convictions and all of us.

“...“ I have been training in the USA for three years already, ”said the offended child.


And after all all correctly said! The benefits of training in the USA are obvious. Even the coach sent it! But if something seems to someone, then it is their problem ... American missiles take off on our engines, and not vice versa. Our athletes "fly up" at their sports bases. They earn a reputation - we get the result.

And once again a clean sound - speculation, conjecture and assumptions:

“She actually believes that she does not owe anything to these fans, nor to this country, nor to the Olympic Reserve School. In the modern paradigm where self-esteem is eliminated, self-esteem will take its place - this is inevitable. ”


Well, we can really see what exactly and how Klishina speaks. He who has eyes, shall see!

“Well, an athlete is lost for Russia, but what kind of icon for a creacliat was born.” “God sees ...”


God sees everything, and dragging Him to his lie or flaw is an even greater sin!

“And here is a whole athlete! This plowman, who sweated in his life not in a rented apartment with a strange half, but in a stadium. Yes, it's just a gift, and he goes into his hands! "


Already trying to stick. That would be the whole article, the price you would not have!

“... Contrary to desire, Klishina will prototop the track of doubts for other athletes who will be sad to watch TV. With a successfully played card, who knows, the new “exposing documentary” will not be long in coming! And other applicants for the main role and will not have to look ... "
No comment.

We summarize


Harassment by Klishina, organized by pseudo-patriots, is the test that Daria Igorevna is undergoing. And God forbid her to speak and win against the evil! Dear readers of the "Military Review" modestly advise you to be more vigilant and not to succumb to provocations! The conclusion of the author is almost perfect!

“There is an information war that is a fact that it is hard to deny even the most seasoned liberals with their angelic faith in the divine destiny of the West. And in the new infantry arrived. Meet the soldier by name ... "


"Eastern wind"! Rude, arrogant, with sweaty and clammy shaking hands, quasi-patriots and cunning sophisticated enemy or lazy and slobber with weak political self-identity? But not "Dasha"!

Afterword


Anyone who accidentally touched, I ask you to forgive, the imagination periodically puts ... Site "IN" many thanks for the quality work and the opportunity to speak. The "East Wind" is sending an invitation to a dispute, because the main issue of your article has not been disclosed. What methods and techniques of information warfare, other than those I wrote out of your training manual, are used by the enemy against our athletes?

2 March 2015, 17: 42, registration on the site, 21 publication and 15000 rating? Sergey Monastyrev, people ask for an encore! If the author is really you ... I personally believe the moderators, suddenly the article accidentally separated from the account? And then again - not to that cling ...

“The article was written by the East Wind. I missed the name of the author and he, and the editors. Now it is fixed. The article must be corrected. "


Imagine: the author climbed the statue of Motherland and "recovered" standing on the edge of the sword. I posted a video in Youtube. One hundred and fifty people put the author plus, the author is happy:

- Hooray! What a success. And my “courage” was not noticed. Yes, it's me! Give me glory! And then in parallel to the citizen the cart came to the NKVD ... And the "black raven curls" ...

Ovation! A curtain! For curtains:

- Take out the body faster, until it is cold, we still have to return it to the morgue!

- Do not forget to sign in the plan for executions, and for the lost official aspen stake in the office report. And do not save on nails. Run away ...
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  1. Abbra
    Abbra 20 July 2016 12: 52
    +11
    Damn, for the first time in my life I quote myself to VO ...

    Abbra RU July 13, 2016 12:28 | Information war in sport. Daria Klishina - a random soldier with a tattoo on the fifth point
    All this is good, and the girl’s butt is interesting, but what does VO have to do with it? hi I look forward to articles about Sergei Zverev and culinary preferences of Kirkorov ...

    1. May God grant health to Daria and her unborn children!
    2. Sports her success! And if they are under the Russian flag - even more so!

    That, in fact, is all. Most of my respected colleagues in VO know about information wars. That's why beware.

    And your text, Posted by Penzuck, would you like this, or would not want another bullet in the sky. The theater of war is the same information war. We read dictionaries. We read books. We understand everything. There are almost no fools in VO.
    1. Major Yurik
      Major Yurik 20 July 2016 13: 11
      +13
      If Klishina considers sport as a craft, as a way of making money, then there are no questions, everything is right and nobody has the right to condemn it. And if you look broader, from the point of view of love for your homeland, there are a lot of questions. It’s her choice, God forbid to reproach her for something, she either has love for the motherland or she doesn’t, and then ..... I I can hardly imagine Sasha Ovechkin, who refuses to play in the Russian national team, who hurts to help her native team with a sick, injured person running, and Klishina cannot even get closer to his level in a dream, somehow I think so! hi
      1. Penzuck
        20 July 2016 14: 24
        +1
        Herra marshals ran in, threw me a lyuley, as expected ...
        Although the logic is completely absent:
        Quote: Major Yurik
        If Klishina sees sport as a craft
        - If you read the article carefully, and not invent fables ...
        Quote: Major Yurik
        in terms of love for their homeland

        From the point of view of love for our homeland, we must support our athletes ... And do not slander them!
        Quote: Major Yurik
        .I can hardly imagine Sasha Ovechkin, who refuses to play in the Russian national team, who hurts to help his native team with a sick, injured man

        WHAT WILL KLISHINA HELP YOUR TEAM? What nonsense! How can you compare the incomparable!
        Quote: Major Yurik
        and Klishina’s level, even in a dream, doesn’t come close, somehow I think so!

        Can compare Fedor Chaliapin and A.P. Chekhov? And none of them will NEVER be able to reach the level of the opponent ...
        Is that called think?
        1. Abbra
          Abbra 20 July 2016 14: 45
          +4
          Penzuck From the point of view of love for our homeland, it is necessary to support our athletes ...
          I am especially guarded, every morning, evening and night, I support the Russian national football team. And during the break, when I sit in the toilet, personally Mutko ...
          1. Penzuck
            20 July 2016 16: 45
            +1
            But 130 "fighters" supported the slanderer!
            Quote: Abbra
            I am especially guarded, every morning, evening and night, I support the Russian national football team. And during the break, when I sit in the toilet, personally Mutko ...
      2. Al1977
        Al1977 21 July 2016 10: 50
        0
        Quote: Major Yurik
        And if you look broader, from the point of view of love for your homeland, then there are a lot of questions.

        In terms of love for your country, what car do you have?
        And from the point of view of the motherland's love for athletes, how are things going there?
    2. vlad66
      vlad66 20 July 2016 13: 12
      +24
      Take out the body faster, before it has cooled down, we should take it back to the morgue!

      - Do not forget to sign in the plan for executions, and for the lost official aspen stake in the office report. And do not save on nails. Run away ...

      And how are you comrade Penzyuk different from
      Rude, impudent, with sweaty and sticky shaking hands, a quasi-patriot and a cunning sophisticated enemy or a lazy person and a slob with a fragile political identity?

      In general, respected Penzyuk insults and disrespect for the forum users are not welcomed in VO, Daria Klishina of course health and victories in the sports field, but this article is minus and big. Take out your dirty linen in a personal opponent, and not on public display, it is disgusting to read how horseradish measured someone who in rudeness surpasses.
      1. Penzuck
        20 July 2016 14: 31
        +2
        Quote: vlad66
        In general, the respected Penzyuk insults and disrespect for the members of the forum on VO are not welcome

        And you haven't read the next paragraph with my apologies? From it like ...
        Quote: vlad66
        And how are you comrade Penzyuk different from

        Well, you did not read?
        I’ve forgiven everyone whom I accidentally hurt, my imagination periodically brings it up ... Thank you very much for the high-quality work and the opportunity to speak. We will send an invitation to the “East Wind” for a dispute, because the main question of your article has not been disclosed. What methods and techniques of information warfare, besides those that I wrote out from your training manual, are used by the enemy against our athletes?

        Then I wrote that I used the same methods as the author. Only D.K. will not answer ... And the opinion of "BB" would be interesting to hear. How to be in her shoes. But you do not read, you would only spit ...
        NOTHING. But at least I apologized to the forum users ...
        1. vlad66
          vlad66 20 July 2016 14: 48
          +7
          Quote: Penzuck
          Well you did not read

          And you, dear, have read your creation? In addition to rudeness and quotations from the Scripture and the article of VV, there are some emotions.
          Quote: Penzuck
          And the opinion of "BB" would be interesting to hear

          So write in a personal and discuss health. Oh yes
          Quote: Penzuck
          But you do not read, you would only spit ...
          Yeah, where are we going to miserable, we don’t even know the alphabet and we didn’t pass the exam. fellow And why I am not surprised at your answer. request If you didn’t like your opus, then it means spitting, and if you would sing praises, then good nude nude.
          1. Penzuck
            20 July 2016 16: 42
            +1
            Quote: vlad66
            Have you respected your creation?

            twice (sarcasm)
            Quote: vlad66
            So write in a personal and discuss

            The reason (in the article) is public. And if you had read the article, you would know that at first the AUTHOR WAS NOT RECORDED. "Who should I write to?" And the article was already written, then I corrected it.
            Quote: vlad66
            If you didn’t like your opus, then it means spitting, and if you praised the praises, then nude nude.

            If you have not read my article, then how can you objectively give it an assessment. And I don't care + / or - / YOU ARE UNJOBJECTIVE.
            1. vlad66
              vlad66 20 July 2016 17: 00
              +11
              Quote: Penzuck
              twice (sarcasm)

              Oh li (sarcasm)
              Quote: Penzuck
              YOU ARE OBJECTIVE.

              And you? By the way, I do not blame Klishina, but we do not need such examples.
              Quote: Penzuck
              The tone of my publications was "scary" and meaner.

              There is no need to whistle, there were no publications on VO, oh yes, I’m sorry, I forgot, we didn’t read it. laughing
              Quote: Penzuck
              He printed with his feet ...

              And if you think about it with your head? request
              Quote: Penzuck
              Prudently silent.

              Here I support you. yes
              Quote: Penzuck
              3. It’s better to write a petition and let the Russian team play under the flag of the IOC so that the Russian flag is not dishonored!

              So you write the petition of the administration of the site Topwar.ru and refuse the flag of Russia, before nodding to someone, look at yourself from the outside.
              Quote: Penzuck
              Fedor Chaliapin and A.P. Chekhov?

              Alas, I will disappoint you, as a singer you do not know, but you are far from Anton Palych. Write more articles, be sure to read and discuss. Only please, without rudeness. hi
              1. Penzuck
                20 July 2016 17: 25
                -2
                Quote: vlad66
                There is no need to whistle, there were no publications on VO, oh yes, I’m sorry, I forgot, we didn’t read it.

                Therefore, they did not publish ... crying
                Quote: vlad66
                So you write the petition of the administration of the site Topwar.ru and refuse the flag of Russia, before nodding to someone, look at yourself from the outside.

                What to go to the "commies" camp? In principle, you can ... Born in the USSR. tongue
                Quote: vlad66
                Alas, I will disappoint you, as a singer you do not know, but you are far from Anton Palych. Write more articles, be sure to read and discuss. Only please, without rudeness.

                I compare myself with Belinsky if CHE: laughing "Brevity is the sister of talent" (C) (ento Chekhov)
                "There is little time to write, so I write a lot" (C) (EMNIP Belinsky). bully
                1. vlad66
                  vlad66 20 July 2016 17: 59
                  +11
                  Quote: Penzuck
                  What to go to the "commies" camp? In principle, you can ... Born in the USSR.

                  Dear, even though I was born in the USSR, I’m still not part-time and I’m not going to go anywhere. yes And the USSR is my homeland, I was born in the USSR, studied, served and worked. And where do you go it is your pies with kittens. hi
                  Quote: Penzuck
                  "There is little time to write, so I write a lot" (C) (EMNIP Belinsky).

                  Yes, write, write at least a lot, at least a little, with time it may not be worse than Chekhov. bully
                  1. Penzuck
                    20 July 2016 18: 09
                    0
                    Quote: vlad66
                    Dear, even though I was born in the USSR, I’m still not part-time and I’m not going to go anywhere. And the USSR is my homeland, I was born in the USSR, studied, served and worked. And where do you go it is your pies with kittens.

                    You understand the humor, this is already good ...
                    Quote: vlad66
                    Yes, write, write at least a lot, at least a little, with time it may not be worse than Chekhov.

                    +))
        2. Makarov
          Makarov 20 July 2016 15: 02
          +4
          It’s normal in her shoes ... she’s going to the Games, the Russian Federation doesn’t have to and she doesn’t have anything, she has to train where, live too ... huge public attention in particular to her fifth point, what else would a modern girl want?
    3. Penzuck
      20 July 2016 13: 25
      -1
      Quote: Abbra
      And your text, Written by Penzuck, would you like this, or would not want another bullet in the sky. The theater of war is the same information war. We read dictionaries. We read books. We understand everything. There are almost no fools in VO.

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  3. Mihalich17
    Mihalich17 20 July 2016 12: 56
    +10
    So much the author confused everything for himself that he almost knocked me off the pantaliku! )))
    I barely mastered the "little article" ... Abstruse and uninteresting! Put a minus!
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 20 July 2016 13: 07
      +1
      Quote: Mihalich17
      Put a minus!

      Well deserved! The author is "sausage". Emotions ooze from every paragraph. However: he has the right! .... Get a minus ...
    2. bk316
      bk316 20 July 2016 13: 16
      +7
      Quote: Mihalich17
      I barely mastered the "article" ..

      But I couldn’t - there is no sense in the colorful turns, quotes, metaphors and hyperbolas. And why so many indentation? Enter crush?
      Summary: the author wrote an article for myself, not for the reader.
      Therefore -
      1. Penzuck
        20 July 2016 13: 58
        -3
        Quote: bk316
        And why so many indentation? Enter crush?

        He printed with his feet ...
        Quote: bk316
        But I couldn’t - there is no sense in the colorful turns, quotes, metaphors and hyperbolas.

        In such cases, people read the findings. And then they look like the author reached this ...
        Quote: bk316
        I couldn’t

        What can I say ... Prudently keep silent ...
        1. bk316
          bk316 20 July 2016 17: 24
          +3
          Quote: Penzuck
          In such cases, people read the findings. And then they look like the author reached this ...


          You probably do not have much experience writing articles.
          If an article has to be read backwards, it is a bad article (perhaps not in meaning but in style). In general, you should avoid links back and even more links forward, this is not a detective story. I was taught this at Moscow State University and the articles were returned with the resolution "there is grain - rewrite the article."

          Since you insist so, I mastered it - I read it backwards.

          According to the findings
          - about Klishina - I wish her success;
          - about "East Wind" - they don't do that (write about "sticky shaking hands" and invite them to the dispute through a line) normal people. What dispute do you want? What would you call names like that? For a dispute, mutual respect is needed first.

          Please save the readers of VO from this, you can’t do it without fights, go to the censor and please for the country.
          1. Penzuck
            20 July 2016 17: 51
            0
            Quote: bk316
            You probably do not have much experience writing articles.
            If an article has to be read backwards, it is a bad article (perhaps not in meaning but in style). In general, you should avoid links back and even more links forward, this is not a detective story. I was taught this at Moscow State University and the articles were returned with the resolution "there is grain - rewrite the article."

            + for criticism.
            Quote: bk316
            For a dispute, mutual respect is needed first.

            Quote: bk316
            - about "East Wind" - they don't do that

            I will explain again, I used the same principles and methods as the author ("BB"). And yes, I'm wrong (partially). But if a person sends a picture with a bare buttock to VO, then what respect is there for him, is he so respectful to us? If he doesn't respect any of us. And I fully disclosed the methods, as the author scored 130 pluses. And you agree with that.

            BUT: Any game theory says 1. Be kind first.
            2. Revenge is required. An eye for an eye.
            3. You must be able to forgive.
            Besides:
            Quote: bk316
            But I couldn’t - there is no sense in the colorful turns, quotes, metaphors and hyperbolas.

            Those. On the one hand: you couldn’t read because you didn’t understand anything, then re-read it — you understood, and probably didn’t understand it at all ... Well, all right. What to argue with reporters?
            1. bk316
              bk316 20 July 2016 18: 50
              +3
              Quote: Penzuck
              What to argue with reporters?

              I am not a journalist, I am a programmer. The articles were mainly about computing in massively parallel architectures. laughing

              Quote: Penzuck
              Any game theory says

              What does any mean? Game theory is such a branch of mathematics.

              Quote: Penzuck
              the author scored 130 pluses

              Believe me, I did not ply.

              In general, I understand you, maybe you are essentially right, but I am not a fan of trash (like most VO readers) and I really want something different without turning VO into the trash.

              You + for accepting criticism.
    3. Penzuck
      20 July 2016 14: 35
      -2
      Quote: Mihalich17
      So much the author confused everything for himself that he almost knocked me off the pantaliku! )))
      I barely mastered the "little article" ... Abstruse and uninteresting! Put a minus!

      Well, why didn’t they understand? What is your claim? I will answer all your questions here.
  4. 75 hammer
    75 hammer 20 July 2016 12: 59
    +3
    What is the article, what is this on the minus! Leave Daria alone, let the man go about his business. Let her calmly prepare for the competition. And then one wrote it down as a traitor, the other as a victim of a hybrid war, there is nothing more to write about! If you follow the logic of the first author, then everyone who plays or trains, performs on stage in the "Western" world-enemies. Look wider gentlemen- "The world (Earth) is multipolar and has many vectors of civilization development!" V. Putin. Recently, a lot of politics has already become on VO, comments are no longer read, I do not want to write.
    1. reservist
      reservist 20 July 2016 15: 09
      0
      Quote: Hammer 75
      If you follow the logic of the first author, then everyone who plays or trains, performs on stage in the "Western" world-enemies.

      No, not enemies, but when they put you ... before a choice between performing at the Olympics under the IOC flag and being suspended from the competition, then why the hell do you thank these figures who "banned" your "colleagues in the shop"?
  5. LEVIAFAN
    LEVIAFAN 20 July 2016 13: 00
    +18
    In general, this chaos was created by such a gifted minister as Mutko. and on account of bullying, Brzezinski spoke well of this.
    This American politician, speaking with our scientists on the missile defense problem, noted that “he does not see a single case in which Russia could resort to its nuclear potential, while in American banks there is $ 500 billion owned by the Russian elite. - And then he added: you still figure out whose elite it is - yours or already ours. This elite in no way connects its fate with the fate of Russia. They have the money already there, the children are already there .... ".
    I think this can be applied to athletes. Do we have different mentality and living in usa to represent Russia? Well, maybe I'm wrong, but such an athlete doesn’t matter to me.
    1. weksha50
      weksha50 20 July 2016 15: 29
      +1
      Quote: LEVIAFAN
      I think this can be applied to athletes. Do we have different mentality and living in usa to represent Russia?


      Here, the phrase about athletes - whose they ... will or will be ... may still come closer to Brzezinski’s dictum

      The USA initiated a petition to the IOC banning the performance of Russian athletes in all international competitions ...
      Well, what can this lead to ??? Moreover, our athletes, for whom the Olympics and World Championships, will be forced to compete under foreign flags ...

      So - we’re arguing about Daria, but the question then seems to be much more complicated ...

      Well, about the article specifically ... Too many emotions, too many ... I didn’t put either a plus or a minus ... Everyone has the right to their opinion, but in my life I try not to argue with a person whose emotions start spit saliva ...

      Inadequate is this ... either a dispute, or a person ...
  6. pofigisst74
    pofigisst74 20 July 2016 13: 02
    +3
    And who is the author of THIS article? Lawyer? Buddy Klishina? Or a fighter with injustice? Why is there such a zeal in defense? It would be interesting to know. recourse
    1. Penzuck
      20 July 2016 13: 55
      -1
      Quote: pofigisst74
      And who is the author of THIS article?

      boy. wink
      Quote: pofigisst74
      Buddy Klishina?

      secret admirer wassat.
      Quote: pofigisst74
      Or a fighter with injustice

      Well, truly ...
      Quote: pofigisst74
      Why is there such a zeal in defense?

      And why is it possible to scold, but defend it in no way?
      1. pofigisst74
        pofigisst74 20 July 2016 14: 08
        +2
        Judging by the fact that the publication is the first, before you didn’t want to protect anyone. And the question is missing about the lawyer. Therefore, doubts remain about your disinterestedness and objectivity. yes
        1. Penzuck
          20 July 2016 14: 44
          -1
          Quote: pofigisst74
          fishing by the fact that the publication is the first, before you didn’t want to protect anyone

          The tone of my publications was "scary" and meaner. am
          Quote: pofigisst74
          And the question is missing about the lawyer.

          What are you saying:
          Quote: pofigisst74
          Lawyer? (!) Buddy Klishina? (2) Or a fighter with injustice? (3)

          or 1, or 2, or 3. The answer to the question is 3! Is this missing? belay
          Quote: pofigisst74
          Therefore, doubts remain about your disinterestedness and objectivity.

          If you have doubts about your questions, then what do I do? wink
      2. Altona
        Altona 20 July 2016 14: 48
        +2
        Quote: Penzuck
        And why is it possible to scold, but defend it in no way?

        ----------------------
        The main complaint against Klishina for loyal words addressed to the IAAF (World Athletics Association) "For Qualified IAAF Choice in considering her case of admission to the 2016 Olympics. "What kind of butterflies on the bottom or in the belly of this cute girl I absolutely do not care. Olympism provides for the solidarity of athletes (read the Olympic Charter, not all, but only the first paragraph about the principles). That's all. And what kind of Daria is a daughter, girl, model, or even in what hypostasis I absolutely do not care.
        1. Penzuck
          20 July 2016 16: 58
          -1
          Quote: Altona
          The main claim to Klishina for loyal words to the IAAF (World Athletics Association) "For the qualified choice of the IAAF in considering her case for admission to the 2016 Olympics."

          Give me a quote! I haven't read the article ... What is "true-citizenship"?
          1. reservist
            reservist 20 July 2016 17: 41
            +2
            Quote: Penzuck
            Give a quote!

            Darya Klishina
            July 10 at 2:12 a.m. ·
            The news that I am allowed to participate in all international events and also 2016 Olympics in Rio came today late in the night. I am really happy. At this point I would like to thank IAAF for its expert decision and, of course, my very professional WME-IMG team, my agents Alexei Nikolaev and Olivier van Lindonk, and my sponsors Nike, Seiko and Skullcandy who supported me during all this time. And my special thanks goes to my outstanding coach and great person Loren Seagrave without whom my career simply would not be possible. Also, I appreciate every effort of IMG Academy and its staff to create the best possible, safe and clean environment for me.
            1. Penzuck
              20 July 2016 18: 02
              -3
              Quote: reservist
              The news that I am allowed to participate in all international events and also 2016 Olympics in Rio came today late in the night. I am really happy. At this point I would like to thank IAAF for its expert decision and, of course, my very professional WME-IMG team, my agents Alexei Nikolaev and Olivier van Lindonk, and my sponsors Nike, Seiko and Skullcandy who supported me during all this time . And my special thanks goes to my outstanding coach and great person Loren Seagrave without whom my career simply would not be possible. Also, I appreciate every effort of IMG Academy and its staff to create the best possible, safe and clean environment for me.

              I quoted the exact same quote in the article and explained everything. Well, we don’t read ... Small children ... I am not interested in talking with such people; they give exactly the same words as I do. You see, Penzyuk what a bad thing, ah, spit on the pope.

              "everything secret becomes clear" - where I wrote the same thing. I'm screwing with you. Hamlo I'm the last. And you do not Hamlo not read the article, and then the author in how to knead?
              1. reservist
                reservist 20 July 2016 18: 43
                +1
                imho, the translation in your article falls short of "exactly the same quote" ...

                original from fb
                At this point I would like to thank IAAF for its expert decision and, of course, my very professional WME-IMG team, my agents Alexei Nikolaev and Olivier van Lindonk, and my sponsors Nike, Seiko and Skullcandy who supported me during all this time.


                quote from the article:
                “I want to thank the IAAF for this decision and, of course, my team of agents and sponsors who supported me throughout this time. ”



                Quote: Penzuck
                Hamlo I am the last.

                +1

                Quote: Penzuck
                And you don’t have to read articles,

                How did you conclude that I did not read the article?

                Quote: Penzuck
                and then the author in how to knead?

                oh how ...
                Well, then you deserve it, I'll go minus the article
                1. Penzuck
                  21 July 2016 07: 22
                  0
                  Quote: reservist
                  its expert decision

                  And that's the whole point? Japanese policeman! what's the difference, "this is an expert solution" and "this solution"? Where is servility after all? Ozhegov:

                  SUBJUST, -th, -th; -then, -tn. Servile, obedient and submissive. Slavish speech. || subservience, 1st, cf. and servility, and, g.

                  Where is the "servility" here? Where is the flattery? If experts are sitting there, then their expert opinion. Stupid statement of fact. It's easier for you to keep silent then than to invent nonsense. "The pig will always find dirt" (C). On this sad note, I say goodbye to you.
                  1. reservist
                    reservist 21 July 2016 11: 57
                    -1
                    > I would like to thank IAAF for its expert decision
                    I would like to thank the IAAF for her professional decision

                    What is the IAAF professionalism?
                    If there was cheating with doping in Sochi in 2014, then you get that the IAAF "experts" missed him ...
                    If there was no cheating, then why did these "experts" start a scandal immediately before the speeches ...

                    imho, this is just the case when there is nothing to thank the IAAF "experts" for, and the phrase "I would like to thank the IAAF for her professional decision." in the absence of professionalism on the part of the IAAF in the context of the current situation with the admission of our athletes to the Games, it looks just flattering (servile).
                    1. Penzuck
                      21 July 2016 12: 36
                      -1
                      Quote: reservist
                      professional

                      You are so magical in English. I just emanate from the emanations of love.
                      View in Lingvo
                      expert [ˈekspɜːt] noun
                      expert m, specialist m, professional m
                      (judge, specialist, professional)
                      connoisseur of m
                      (scholar)
                      master m
                      (master)
                      expert adj
                      experienced, skilled, skilled

                      (skilled)
                      expert
                      (expertise)

                      In addition: there is WADA, but there is IAAF (not the same thing). The documents of the organization have this:
                      "Establish and use a mechanism whereby all disputes in athletics must be resolved by arbitration."
                      Those. WADA is making a demarche against us. The IAAF acts according to its documents and gives the decision. Those. what is your personal hatred of the IAAF? Why "run empty"?
                      1. reservist
                        reservist 21 July 2016 18: 57
                        +1
                        looked in lingvo ...
                        don't find that "experienced / skilled / skillful solution" Does it sound like something not in Russian?
                        your option "this is the solution" noticeably "further" from the original phrase ...
                      2. Penzuck
                        22 July 2016 14: 05
                        0
                        Quote: reservist
                        "experienced / skilled / skillful solution"


                        Quote: Penzuck
                        And that's the whole point? Japanese policeman! what is the difference, "this is an expert solution" and "this solution"? Where is servility after all?


                        Back to our rams: 1. if the decision of experts expert, then why not in Russian?
                        2. if you translate words as you personally like, then this is not a problem of the DC. Correct translation is the key to understanding ... well, you are a professional linguist? "sick car" - "ambulance" (From German). Cold cabinet - refrigerator, etc. And you should know perfectly well that adjectives are translated in English not quite like nouns ...
                        3.
                        Quote: reservist
                        your version of "this decision" is noticeably "further" from the original phrase ...

                        "this decision" and "this expert decision" refer to the IAAF, the words "very professional" refer to the IMG team. Those. these are two different words with two completely different meanings. Those. expert to experts, professional to professionals. and the first about the IAAF; the second for IMG. Why inflate an elephant from a fly? It is your "translation that is noticeably further from the phrase" because it completely distorts the essence of the statement. He punched in the phrase with his fingers - he could have missed the word "expert". But even so, the phrase does not NOTHING BENT!
                      3. reservist
                        reservist 21 July 2016 19: 04
                        -1
                        how, from the statement that the IAAF decision is not worthy of gratitude, was a conclusion made about personal hatred of this organization?
                      4. Penzuck
                        22 July 2016 14: 16
                        0
                        Quote: reservist
                        how, from the statement that the IAAF decision is not worthy of gratitude, was a conclusion made about personal hatred of this organization?

                        Quote: reservist
                        imho, this is just the case when there is nothing to thank the IAAF "experts" for, and the phrase "I would like to thank the IAAF for her professional solution" in the absence of professionalism on the part of the IAAF in the context of the current situation with the admission of our athletes to the Games looks exactly flattering (obsequiously).

                        If, again, correctly translated, the expert opinion is expert. A professional team of trainers is just a professional ... But if you change the meaning and meaning of the words in a sentence as you like, knowing the rules of the English language, your interest in this matter becomes obvious. Or your emotions do not allow you to think objectively. And there are not many emotions (negative) to choose from - hatred is the most obvious feeling ...
                    2. Penzuck
                      21 July 2016 13: 03
                      0
                      http://www.iaaf-rdc.ru/index.php/ru/materials/ofitsialnye-dokumenty
                      Examine the documents for decency ...
                      https://www.wada-ama.org/en/what-we-do/the-code
                      wiciped a little!
                      1. reservist
                        reservist 21 July 2016 19: 16
                        -1
                        Quote: Penzuck
                        Examine the documents for decency ...

                        Of course, you carefully studied all 22 documents by reference?


                        Quote: Penzuck
                        wiciped a little!

                        well looked at wikipedia
                        Initially, WADA received funding from the IOC, but now the IOC finances WADA only half. WADA receives the rest of the funding from world governments, which casts doubt on the independence of the organization.
                      2. Penzuck
                        22 July 2016 14: 18
                        0
                        Quote: reservist
                        Of course, you carefully studied all 22 documents by reference?

                        And then. bully
                        Quote: reservist
                        well looked at wikipedia
                        Initially, WADA received funding from the IOC, but now the IOC finances WADA only half. WADA receives the rest of the funding from world governments, which casts doubt on the independence of the organization.

                        So where does the IAAF if all the trouble is in WADA? belay
                        Have fun with you ...
  7. Pitot
    Pitot 20 July 2016 13: 05
    +2
    Honestly, nifiga did not understand from this messy (but most likely from the heart) article ...... so is she all right or know?
    1. Penzuck
      20 July 2016 13: 53
      -3
      Quote: Pitot
      so is she all right or know?


      Suppose the last drunk is a bum, seeing how the hooligans attacked the girl, throws a stone into the window of a nearby store, so that the alarm is turned on. He's already good at saving the girl, it's bad that he smashed a shop window. But we will not judge in this case for the fact that he is a bum and drunk? So is he "good" or "bad"?
      1. Altona
        Altona 20 July 2016 14: 52
        +2
        Quote: Penzuck
        Suppose the last homeless drunk, seeing how hooligans attacked a girl, throws a stone in the window of a nearby store so that the alarm goes off.

        --------------------
        The Russian national team athlete Daria Klishina, who is "homeless" in the United States, "with words of gratitude" addressed to the IAAF served as a signaling button for the "police arbitrariness" of WADA and the IOC. You gave it a good image.
        1. Penzuck
          20 July 2016 16: 59
          +1
          Quote: Altona
          Homeless "in the US, the athlete of the Russian national team Daria Klishina" with words of gratitude "to the IAAF served as a signaling button for the" police arbitrariness "of WADA and the IOC. You gave a good image.

          You can in Russian? I do not understand.
          1. Altona
            Altona 20 July 2016 19: 47
            0
            Quote: Penzuck

            You can in Russian? I do not understand.

            ------------------------
            A Russian citizen and member of the national team, Daria Klishina currently lives in the United States and trains there. That is, in relation to Russia, she "bums". What's incomprehensible here? For the fact this extraterritoriality was awarded from the IAAF "participation" in the 2016 Olympics in Rio de Janeiro (Brazil). I seem to have explained to you the essence of the claims against this athlete in the first comment. What more do you want from me? I admit that I am partial to blondes, but this blonde is the face of the national team, which imposes certain ethical obligations on her. How else to explain that? The national team should not be a bunch of mankurts and gouges like Kokorin, Mamaev and Daria Klishina. In this case, I am with Elena Isinbayeva, who fights in the Olympic arbitration.
            1. Penzuck
              21 July 2016 07: 32
              -1
              Quote: Penzuck
              That you gave a good image.

              Quote: Altona
              A Russian citizen and member of the national team, Daria Klishina currently lives in the United States and trains there. That is, in relation to Russia, she "bums"

              Quote: Altona
              What else do you want from me?

              So that you, dear Sir, have the honor (from an honest word) not to ascribe to me those words that I did not say and did not mean! And so nothing:
              Quote: Altona
              ? I admit, I am not indifferent to blondes, but this blonde is the face of the team, which imposes certain ethical obligations on her.

              1. Who appointed her face of the team? In your opinion those who did not read speed.info?
              2. If her "moral character" is not what you want - your problem.
              3. At least there is a sporting result from it.
              1. Altona
                Altona 21 July 2016 09: 08
                0
                Quote: Penzuck
                2. If her "moral character" is not what you want - your problem.

                -------------------
                It was about the ethics of her statements, and not about the "moral character" of Klishina. Klishina is a member of the national team, and therefore the face of the country. But apparently it doesn't reach you.
                1. Penzuck
                  21 July 2016 12: 10
                  0
                  They killed ....
                  Quote: Altona
                  It was about the ethics of the statements,

                  WHERE? In your comments (1), in my article (2), in the article "East Wind" (3) ?. Be specific.
                  Quote: Altona
                  . Klishina is a member of the national team, which means the face of the country.

                  AND? And what was "nonethical" she said? What is the point of the claim? A respected reservist gave several links to her words, I gave a reasoned answer. It makes no sense to repeat. Or
                  Quote: Altona
                  apparently does not reach you.
                  ... that the original message is incorrect. That’s the whole story ...
  8. Same lech
    Same lech 20 July 2016 13: 05
    +3
    smile

    The best judge is common sense ...
    I do not presume to participate in the battle of these information soldiers ... I will wait a little when the gunpowder will be scattered and the corpses will be removed from the battlefield.
    1. weksha50
      weksha50 20 July 2016 15: 31
      +2
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      I do not presume to participate in the battle of these information soldiers ... I will wait a little when the gunpowder will be scattered and the corpses will be removed from the battlefield.


      !!! hi

      Right - like a Chinese ... The theory of the art of war - in real embodiment ...
      1. Penzuck
        20 July 2016 18: 10
        +1
        Quote: weksha50
        Right - like a Chinese ... The theory of the art of war - in real embodiment ...

        +)
  9. iouris
    iouris 20 July 2016 13: 09
    +4
    If an official who fled to the USA has been selling doping for a long time, then we are talking about treason at the top.
    Professional sports and professional criminality used to go hand in hand, so the arrest of "Shakro Molodoy" may have a connection with this story. "The betrayal of the elites" is already a byword. If the Soviet raspberries are sold, then things are very bad.
  10. Yura
    Yura 20 July 2016 13: 15
    +1
    He set the article and the author a plus, he absolutely correctly noticed. that sometimes we rush to conclusions. For example, I generally think that she was allowed to take part in the games not out of humanistic motives at all, but with what we have now - we will be dogged for nothing and not reason. When you chop a sucking nag for firewood, it won’t work the first time, time after time you hit the cleaver in one line. Another clumsy dozens of times you hit until it falls apart, so they expect to do with us. The methods and directions of strikes are diverse, sometimes it seems that they are not interconnected with each other, but their goal is to destroy our society. We will not allow ourselves to make brainless idiots of ourselves.
    1. Penzuck
      20 July 2016 13: 30
      -1
      Quote: Jura
      For example, I generally think that she was allowed to take part in games not at all out of humanistic motives

      + That's what I wrote above
      Cutting the levers of logical thinking to the limit. Let's build a logical chain: Klishina in the USA trains at the most famous and prestigious base of the USA, where every athlete is examined with a magnifying glass - she is allowed.

      Let's go from the reverse: they didn't let her, found the dope? (Let me remind you, she has been there for three years!) So in the elite academy for top-class athletes there are problems with doping, which means problems with doping for the entire US team.

      Bring to the absurd? So: it was removed and the entire US team was discharged automatically! Here is the number! I believe that every sensible person has already understood, Americans are not stupid children, and they will not cut the bitches on which they sit. They seem to be for the law. For the letter, but not for the essence!
      1. Yura
        Yura 20 July 2016 14: 00
        0
        Quote: Penzuck
        Bring to the absurd? So: it was removed and the entire US team was discharged automatically! Here is the number! I believe that every sensible person has already understood, Americans are not stupid children, and they will not cut the bitches on which they sit. They seem to be for the law. For the letter, but not for the essence!
        I agree with this.
  11. Antoshka
    Antoshka 20 July 2016 13: 23
    +5
    The whole "cant" of Daria is that she was so delighted with the dream come true to go to the Olympics that in the heat of the moment she allowed herself to be awkwardly happy about it. Forgive the girl for this statement with gratitude, and we will simply root for her if she starts performing under our flag. What else do you want?
    1. Penzuck
      20 July 2016 13: 36
      -4
      Quote: Antoshka
      The whole "cant" of Daria is that she was so delighted with the dream come true to go to the Olympics that in the heat of the moment she allowed herself to be awkwardly happy about it.

      They just beat it first, and then they ask each other, but what are we like that? Thanks to friends of parents, family of fans, etc. for support AFTER victory. At the Oscars ... for example.
      How is it possible that Vasya Pupkin from the lower podnosyaty can influence the decision of the IOC? NO. "Oh, thank you to my fans that ... that the Americans got me permission to compete at the Olympics?" - Nonsense? And since delirium is what "clumsiness and a jamb". "The chaos is not in the closets ..."
    2. Zulu_S
      Zulu_S 20 July 2016 13: 55
      -5
      Daria is OUR! And some "triots" are trying to do everything to hound her before the Olympics, offend her mortally, and make an American athlete. I hope she has enough common sense to ignore these subjects! Good luck and Olympic gold!
      1. reservist
        reservist 20 July 2016 15: 15
        +2
        Well, actually, after its publication in the FB, some Aborigines offer her to obtain local citizenship and play for the star-striped team, i.e. they (the natives) already consider her OWN ...
        1. Penzuck
          20 July 2016 17: 01
          0
          +) Freestuff athlete? Surprised ...
          Quote: reservist
          Well, actually, after its publication in the FB, some Aborigines offer her to obtain local citizenship and play for the star-striped team, i.e. they (the natives) already consider her OWN ...

          But no more than that.
          1. reservist
            reservist 20 July 2016 18: 08
            0
            but no less ...

            it seems that, in the joys of Daria, she didn’t understand what she had gotten into ...
            - On the issue of admission to the starts, I went on an equal footing with all Russian athletes: I applied, like our other athletes, said Daria Klishina.
            - But due to the fact that the IAAF put forward certain criteria, it so happened that at this stage I came up to them. I want to note that I did not start training in the US with an American coach a month before the current situation. Still, I’ve been there for three years. Therefore, it seems to me wrong to scold me and call me a traitor to the Motherland. I wait until the last and hope that I will not go to Rio alone. I would like to believe that the Court of Arbitration for Sport in Lausanne, following the July 19 hearings, will make a decision that is positive for all of us.

            www.rusathletics.com/nov/news.15495.htm
            1. Penzuck
              20 July 2016 18: 26
              -1
              Quote: reservist
              but no less ...

              it seems that, in the joys of Daria, she didn’t understand what she had gotten into ...


              Right now, fasting is a sin to swear. Let us not "treat" me with quotes from my article and quotes on FB by Daria Klishina? Well, you do not respect me, and God is with you. Include logic sometimes.
              1. reservist
                reservist 20 July 2016 18: 53
                0
                Quote: Penzuck
                Let you not "treat" me ...

                Let us not tell you what to do, but I will not say where to go?
  12. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 20 July 2016 13: 25
    +10
    I didn’t minus the original article, nor plus it; only expressed his opinion.

    Klishina goes to the Olympics. Fine! But she could be outraged, like Isinbayeva (this is generally a supernova, even in comparison with the bright and talented Klishina) - and it would also be nice.

    Rides under the Russian flag. Fine! And I would go under the neutral one - I would zamusunuvat, how else!

    But why the hell did she thank the IAAF, in which a rogue sits on a rogue and chases a rogue! Once again I ask - since when should PURE athletes thank stealing officials to thank?

    Where is it seen? This smacks of obscurity!

    I’m not going to discuss Klishina’s personal life, for that she’s personal. However, given the specifics this article, I have to note that if it is full of quotes from the Sermon on the Mount and the New Testament in general, the same Holy Scripture tattoos and piercings are strictly prohibited!

    So - Klishina’s personal affair - to apply a tattoo on the forehead or on the fifth point, but any true the Christian must a priori condemn this.
    1. Zulu_S
      Zulu_S 20 July 2016 14: 24
      +3
      Unfortunately, our athletes have become hostages of the dirty political games unleashed against our country. But OUR sports officials created this opportunity, because if at the first bells, and these were fucking German "doc. Films", to start checking, Rodchenko would already be in our prison, and not pouring slop from over the hill!
      1. bk316
        bk316 20 July 2016 17: 44
        +4
        Quote: Zulu_S
        OUR sports officials, after all, if at the first bells, and these were fucking German "doc. Films", to start checking, Rodchenko would already be in our prison, and not pouring slop from over the hill!

        Yes exactly. Nobody will accuse me of criticism, but here it clearly manifested itself managerial impotence our sports officials.
        After all, what happened by military analogy.

        The enemy reconnaissance in battle to our positions. Successful reconnaissance, almost inflicted irreparable damage. Then he rolled back and took a pause.
        What to do?
        Take measures to strengthen the defense, try to predict the enemy’s plans and take preventive measures to disrupt his plans. It’s still good to go on a counterattack if you have the resources.
        What did the Mutki do different?
        They sighed in relief (well, it seemed to blow), stood back to the enemy, so as not to see anything unpleasant, and began to prepare for a banquet on the occasion of victory.

        I don’t know whether to shoot for such a thing, but the epaulettes are clear - down with ...
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    2. Penzuck
      20 July 2016 14: 51
      +1
      Quote: Gormengast
      So, it’s Klishina’s personal affair to apply a tattoo on the forehead or on the fifth point, but any true Christian should a priori condemn this.

      "do not judge and you will not be judged" (C)! Sin must be unambiguously condemned, but not a person - this is the task of the Higher Forces! On this I agree with you!
  13. ispanec
    ispanec 20 July 2016 13: 25
    +2
    The author has a fat minus. Some kind of logic, common sense, well, who needs it ???
    It would be better if the article about how the American cartoon about Winnie-the-Pooh turns Russian children into homosexuals would be foolish.
    1. Penzuck
      20 July 2016 14: 52
      0
      Quote: ispanec
      The author has a fat minus. Some kind of logic, common sense, well, who needs it ???
      It would be better if the article about how the American cartoon about Winnie-the-Pooh turns Russian children into homosexuals would be foolish.

      (+ for sarcasm). Great idea.
  14. zoknyay82
    zoknyay82 20 July 2016 13: 26
    +1
    Discussions about sports and athletes at HE? But what about Soviet Sport or another, which respected publication does not suit you? Waiting for recipes and tips for growing asparagus. belay
  15. Tulip
    Tulip 20 July 2016 13: 31
    +10
    And, you, dear Penzuck, have posted all your passport details, as well as a biography along with the estate.
    She is not to blame for being allowed to the Olympics, but for bending and crumbling in thanks to a handful of political sixes.
    Parsing your article is not interesting. Contact a psychiatrist for, in my opinion, you have a complex. I, for some reason, interpreted the same excerpts that you voiced completely differently, without my own before the sketches.
    1. Penzuck
      20 July 2016 15: 03
      -2
      Quote: Tulip
      And, you, dear Penzuck, have posted all your passport details, as well as a biography along with the estate.

      This is all the salt! Klishina is a public man ...
      As if banging his head against a concrete wall. Well, do not comment once you have not read:
      "we are simple people do not pretend to be 100% objective." Isn't that enough?
      Quote: Tulip
      hunched and crumbled in thanks to a handful of political sixes.

      If this is called "caved in" ... Anegdot: thanks aunt man! And I think that it’s okay, but my mother asked ...
      A polite person usually thanks ...
      Quote: Tulip
      . Contact a psychiatrist for, in my opinion, you have a complex. I, for some reason, interpreted the same excerpts that you voiced completely differently, without my own before the sketches.

      Well, is it not interesting or not capable?
      1. reservist
        reservist 20 July 2016 15: 31
        0
        Quote: Penzuck
        A polite person usually thanks ...

        imho, in this case, I would not thank people who are breaking the career of my colleagues, well, at least out of corporate solidarity ...

        although where am I going to Klishina, I’m sitting on the couch, and not shedding seven sweats in Florida during training ...
  16. Was mammoth
    Was mammoth 20 July 2016 13: 35
    +8
    I even didn’t understand. Did the author talk about harassing an athlete? And what about the persecution of the whole Russian team? Yes, let it stand, even under the American flag, even under the flag of WADA, or whatever, but why under ours? The honor of performing under the flag of Russia must be earned. With us, not in the USA.
    I do not understand the toothlessness of our officials. Here is m ..., Mutko, who is also no longer allowed to the Olympics. Recently, he spoke out that he has lawyers on vacation. No one to do!
    It seems to me that in the West it is necessary to beat the patient himself, namely the wallet. Roll out claims and bring to the logical end. But, and by itself to understand the contributions.
    For our Russian athletes to organize their own Olympic Games in Russia and award medals based on the results in Rio. He was ahead of those in Rio who got the "gold", no, no award.
    Dreams.
    1. Penzuck
      20 July 2016 15: 58
      -2
      Quote: There was a mammoth
      I even didn’t understand. Did the author talk about harassing an athlete?
      Yes
      Quote: There was a mammoth
      Honor to fly the flag of Russia must be earned
      Right.

      1. “I'm really happy. “I want to thank the IAAF for this decision and, of course, my team of agents and sponsors who supported me throughout this time.”

      Those. the person is glad that he does not need to pass on "doping" to sue, etc. etc. IT'S ALL!

      2. These are not hostilities or sworn soldiers. If Isinbayeva is almost the god of sports, she has conquered all that the current army officer can do! That Klishina does not have such titles. And to deprive the young athlete at the peak of his form of the opportunity to prove himself is a crime!

      3. It’s better to write a petition and let the Russian team play under the flag of the IOC so that the Russian flag is not dishonored!

      4. People are not machines. They age and die. If the cruiser "Moskva" under the Panamanian flag is hard to imagine. That rotten fishing boat can be. Yes, they avoid taxes, but at least they get paid and can survive. A Russian tax would kill them completely. The analogy is straightforward ...
  17. ssf2257
    ssf2257 20 July 2016 13: 48
    +6
    The maximalist Daria was delighted to be admitted to the Olympic Games. What will she do if our team is not allowed. Will she fight alone? Hmmmmm. Let's see what comes out of it. Life in sports is short, then there will be life itself.
    Now she has a choice - what to be, what to be and how to be.
  18. NordUral
    NordUral 20 July 2016 13: 54
    +7
    So many words and emotions. But from this the act of this girl does not become more attractive.
    1. Penzuck
      20 July 2016 16: 00
      -1
      Quote: NordUral
      So many words and emotions. But from this the act of this girl does not become more attractive.

      Which one of? "Holopop" or "betrayal"? I always want to ask: "Was there a boy?" (C).
  19. Wildfox
    Wildfox 20 July 2016 14: 01
    +8
    Poked a minus article for two reasons:
    1. Bile is immeasurably simple !!! The author "do not read Soviet newspapers until lunchtime." Read the kind and eternal "War and Peace", "The Three Musketeers" and please do not use religious terminology when you swear. The Bible is meant to make a person better, not your article more pretentious.
    2. Klishina has the right to everything !!! Yes, there is one thing, OCD is created in order to raise athletes who will be an example for young people. In this case, most of the negativity against her is a completely justified statement of people "we do not need such examples." And may the author forgive, but he did not cite any of her positive acts. The careerist is just my opinion.

    I wish Daria success in sports, and the author should be a little calmer and "boil" should not be splashed out on others. hi
    1. Penzuck
      20 July 2016 16: 11
      0
      Quote: WildFox
      Bile is immeasurably simple !!! The author "do not read Soviet newspapers until lunchtime." Read the kind and eternal "War and Peace", "The Three Musketeers" and please do not use religious terminology when you swear. The Bible is meant to make a person better, not your article more pretentious.

      Each quote (if in the title) reflects the essence of each paragraph. At the end of the paragraph is the essence of the paragraph ... I thought so logically. For criticism +
      Quote: WildFox
      And forgive the author, but he did not cite a single positive deed

      "deeds" among the saints, among the common people "business".
      They gave you an ax. And the neighbor says that it’s exactly with such an ax \ she scribbled the people into disunity,. And you ask, what positive people used this ax? This is not an argument at all, and the reliability is doubtful.
  20. Mercenary
    Mercenary 20 July 2016 14: 34
    +1
    Written by Penzuck, you can push sandwiches better than writing (judging by the reviews)!
    And, as for sports, Mutko is completely to blame, to bring Russian sports to such spinelessness that any idiot considers it his duty to accuse the national team of the Great Country of anything and he will not have anything, not even a lawsuit! The failure of the snickering youths "the ball-walking team" is also on his conscience, but the team from the Kremlin must not touch the minister !!!! So, now you can't blame the hope of international sports for betraying Russia !?
    1. Penzuck
      21 July 2016 12: 46
      0
      Quote: Mercenary
      (judging by the reviews)!

      Judging by the reviews, petroleum jelly is a good thing, it helps. If you smear their lips. So as not to wind there ... Or you can use hygienic lipstick.
      Quote: Mercenary
      So that now it is impossible to blame the hope of international sports in the betrayal of Russia !?

      I suggest you use the "asterisk" balm. Together with brilliant green it raises the morale ...
  21. Makarov
    Makarov 20 July 2016 14: 58
    +6
    What are you bastard, such a city !!!!!! Not under the Russian flag, but for Russia ... did you serve in the army at all? Did you even understand, scribbler, that you froze. A flag for an athlete is like a Battle Banner for a part ... people were dying for it, and for the loss of a base on the battlefield, do you know what happens? And you recall the name of the people who go under a different banner? well you and .....
    1. reservist
      reservist 20 July 2016 15: 38
      +3
      Quote: Makarov
      What are you bastard, such a city !!!!!! Not under the Russian flag ...
      1. Makarov
        Makarov 20 July 2016 16: 06
        0
        I wonder where such leaflets are distributed?
        1. reservist
          reservist 20 July 2016 16: 45
          0
          antona1976.livejournal.com/108365.html
    2. Penzuck
      20 July 2016 17: 20
      -2
      Quote: Makarov
      What are you bastard, such a city !!!!!!

      how rough. crying
      Quote: Makarov
      for him, people were dying, and for the loss of the base on the battlefield, you know what happens

      My neighbor saved the banner from near Brest and caught up with the unit near Stalingrad. I know.
      Quote: Makarov
      And you recall the name of the people who go under a different banner? well you and .....

      Karelin Having performed with a white flag Betrayed the USSR? Well, of course, and then, like all other "patriots", he spoke under the Russian language. They are such traitors ...
      1. reservist
        reservist 20 July 2016 18: 24
        0
        Quote: Penzuck
        My neighbor saved the banner from near Brest and caught up with the unit near Stalingrad. I know.

        Between Brest and Stalingrad almost 2000 km.
        The Germans took the Brest Fortress in July 1941
        battles near Stalingrad began in July 1942
        the whole year a part fought without a banner ??? !!!
        1. Penzuck
          20 July 2016 18: 33
          -3
          Quote: reservist
          Between Brest and Stalingrad almost 2000 km.
          The Germans took the Brest Fortress in July 1941
          battles near Stalingrad began in July 1942
          the whole year a part fought without a banner ??? !!!

          How do you manage to produce incorrect results with the right input?
          In the chaos of war, he and a group of fighters of his unit left the encirclement, and he left the encirclement for a long time. But when he got to Stalingrad. I found other remnants of the unit and they were all reorganized into self-propelled guns. They were reformed and trained, and only then did they meet the Germans. Is it good?
          1. reservist
            reservist 20 July 2016 18: 58
            +2
            Quote: Penzuck
            caught up with the unit near Stalingrad

            Quote: Penzuck
            Found other parts left

            so caught up with the part or found the remains of the disbanded part?

            Quote: Penzuck
            Is it good?

            no
      2. Makarov
        Makarov 20 July 2016 18: 45
        +1
        yes to me in a drum ... rude or not ...

        I can think of a dozen such "stories" about neighbors myself ... and tell no less real stories. And the example about Karelin is inappropriate ...

        Well, my forecast: she won’t get on the podium. Her best result of 2 cm does not reach what Sokolova showed in 2012, which by the way won silver, but she jumped 5 cm worse than the American ... not only that 5 cm is a lot, it's also 7,12 (gold of 2012) the result is mediocre ... Olympic record 7,40, world 7,52 ...

        I think she herself perfectly understands this, and this will come to the whole picture that is taking place "the flavor" of tabloid PR. She is just a tool in the fight against the enemy, that is, with the Russian Federation ... and so far there are no significant significant achievements behind her shoulders. In the pro sports, although they talk about great potential, but the European junior champion is as they say "about nothing" ...
        1. Penzuck
          21 July 2016 07: 41
          0
          Simple troll trick:
          You: "thief / murderer should go to jail"
          Me: "that's right, I know, only silly guys argue with this, I have a lawyer friend"
          You: "Why are Vasilyeva, Serdyukov and N. Savchenko not in prison?"
          Me: "Probably N. Savchenko is" Putin's family ", since Vasiliev and Serdyukov are" Family ". (Humor)
          You:....
          Quote: Makarov
          I can think of a dozen such "stories" about neighbors myself ... and tell no less real stories.

          And you change the subject ...
          Quote: Makarov
          yes to me in a drum ... rude or not ...

          Your will ...
          1. Makarov
            Makarov 21 July 2016 12: 51
            -1
            This is a kindergarten ...
            To a direct question whether he served in the army, the answer was: "my neighbor fought during the Great Patriotic War." Conclusion - did not serve. This time.
            In fact, I argued why I consider the story with her a PR, and her very instrument of pressure on the Russian Federation. These are two.
            I do not like amateurs, no matter what they do. These are the most dangerous people, if they act without control, because it is unclear in intent or without knowing that they cause harm. These are three.

            And about "trick" ... consider yourself smarter than me? Maybe so. I would not even theoretically assume how a person hiding under the nickname Penzuck will respond in a dialogue with me on any topic ... but this is from my own stupidity ...

            the rating under the article shows the attitude on this site to such libels and I think it is absolutely fair ...
            1. Penzuck
              22 July 2016 14: 54
              0
              Quote: Makarov
              This is a kindergarten ...

              Oh yeah!
              "A flag for an athlete, it's like a Battle Banner for a unit" - did you invent it yourself?
              This is obvious and undeniable ... this time ...
              Quote: Makarov
              In fact, I argued why I consider the story with her a PR, and her very instrument of pressure on the Russian Federation.

              In fact, you have cast a shadow over the wattle fence, and under patriotic slogans and common things, you are trying to label me as a cosmopolitan ... these are two.
              Quote: Makarov
              To a direct question
              and no less direct answer can be assumed two reactions of the audience:
              1. Yes, he finally did not serve in the army, what is he trying to get into the peasants!
              2. Just think of an alternative from psychos and got infected with ideas.
              3. Think served, but what do you prove? Nothing ... see paragraph 1
              4. Did you serve as a doctor? Yes, what kind of doctor are you, you are a traitor ... see p. 2
              5. Served as a soldier / officer? Probably in the construction battalion / disbat! Otherwise, I would have known!
              6. He served in the army of another state? ENEMY!
              7. In reserve army? Can for illness? Ile faith does not allow? etc. etc.
              THIS IS THREE. Troyl you are a triple ...
              Quote: Makarov
              I wouldn’t even theoretically suppose how a person hiding under the nickname Penzuck will respond in a dialogue with me on any topic ... but this is from his own stupidity ...

              How self-critical ... If you do not understand, re-read your post again ...
              Quote: Makarov
              the rating under the article shows the attitude on this site to such libels and I think it is absolutely fair ...

              I ALSO CONSIDER THIS ATTITUDE FAIR. And I think that such an attitude should be and to the previous article! And again I repeat: 1. I used the same tricks as the previous author (except genital), I uncovered all the tricks HOW exactly the previous author scored 130 pluses. 2. Я EXPECTED SUCH A NEGATIVE REACTION.
              3. SPECIAL FOR YOU: I know the difference between a flag and a banner. The flag is a symbol of the state and that's it! The banner can be at least red or purple, even with a sickle, but at least with a hammer, at least with a star. And the soldier's respect for the banner is from ancient times, when SPAS was depicted on the banner. That is, the banner was an icon and a shrine. Kiss the Cross? And the cross is the same Icon! Therefore, they also kissed the banner! Now the banner is a symbol of the oath. An oath is an oath. The red banner has no religious context, but the sacred tradition has remained.
              Those. you equal the STATE FLAG and the MILITARY Banner. They have different meanings. Russian sailors that go to sea under the offshore flag of Panama are traitors to the motherland? If so, then I really:
              Quote: Makarov
              What are you reptilesuch a city

              If not then:
              Quote: Makarov
              it's from my own stupidity...
              exactly your ...
              1. Makarov
                Makarov 28 July 2016 00: 28
                0
                "A flag for an athlete, it's like a Battle Banner for a unit" - did you invent it yourself?
                This is obvious and undeniable ... this time ...
                Those. you equal the STATE FLAG and the MILITARY Banner. They have different meanings.


                You contradict yourself ... what can you talk about and how to take this article seriously after that if the author does not remember in the end what he wanted to say in the beginning? Moreover, I wrote how ... and not the same thing ... that is, to explain to me what the difference was not needed ... just the athletes have no other banner ...

                What other patriotic slogans? I explained why I think the chances of winning a particular athlete are minimal to get on the podium ... and why I think her actions are harmful to the Russian Federation.

                Of course it’s self-critical ... this is to show how stupid the attempt to imitate a dialogue with anyone looks like, by the way, and forecasting answer options ...

                It's funny about the result, but I don't consider it necessary to dwell on this, but: "Russian sailors that go to sea under the offshore Panama flag are traitors to the Motherland"? the answer to this question is not unambiguous ... on the one hand, they do not receive legal protection from the state, on the other hand, they do not pay taxes. But the state has to "harness" for them, even if there is a "trouble" with their "offshore" vessel, so in fact these sailors are awesome cargo around the neck of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, who simply try not to "abandon their own" ... but this is not from a good life and these sailors can be understood ... and I am not mistaken in assessing my mental abilities, and therefore I am not trying to show the weaknesses of the author, who I did not like with the article in reply and call him the 5th column ...

                to communicate with you more with me honestly there is no time or desire. Just understand: to explain to people after the publication of the article what you wanted to say in it is to sign your inability to form thoughts in a language understandable to others ...
  22. Nikolay71
    Nikolay71 20 July 2016 16: 44
    +2
    Quote: WildFox
    Poked a minus article for two reasons:
    1. Bile is immeasurably simple !!! The author "do not read Soviet newspapers until lunchtime." Read the kind and eternal "War and Peace", "The Three Musketeers" and please do not use religious terminology when you swear. The Bible is meant to make a person better, not your article more pretentious.
    2. Klishina has the right to everything !!! Yes, there is one thing, OCD is created in order to raise athletes who will be an example for young people. In this case, most of the negativity against her is a completely justified statement of people "we do not need such examples." And may the author forgive, but he did not cite any of her positive acts. The careerist is just my opinion.

    I wish Daria success in sports, and the author should be a little calmer and "boil" should not be splashed out on others. hi

    I agree with you on all points, unless I refrain from the wishes of success of Klishina. Speech under a neutral flag, for me, it's like under a stranger.
    1. Penzuck
      20 July 2016 17: 28
      -2
      Quote: Nikolay71
      I agree with you on all points, unless I refrain from the wishes of success of Klishina. Speech under a neutral flag, for me, it's like under a stranger.

      We look forward to your success at OI 2016! + 500 to karma ...
  23. Nik2013
    Nik2013 20 July 2016 18: 42
    0
    Russian runner Yulia Stepanova was awarded the 2016 Anti-Doping Award. This was announced on Tuesday, July 19, by the founders of the award from the German public organization "Help for Doping Victims" (DOH). The athlete is considered the main whistleblower of the systematic and allegedly state-sponsored practice of using illegal drugs in Russian sports. The prize amount is 10000 euros.
    1. Makarov
      Makarov 20 July 2016 18: 59
      +1
      This is officially ... I wonder how much she was actually given ... and it is also interesting to assess, apart from the words of the whistleblower, the scale of evidence in this case ...
  24. Terner38
    Terner38 21 July 2016 01: 39
    0
    The author did not convince me.
  25. Doppelgänger
    Doppelgänger 21 July 2016 04: 50
    +2
    At first I didn't want to comment at all, then I thought about it ... And that's what I came up with, well, she trains with the Americans, to hell with her, they sent the coach and sent them (it means they themselves could not bring to the result, purple))) here without question) ..why does the author of the article defend this athlete in such a way? Yes, if it were not for the media about her, no one except specialists would have heard of it (even if she ran 100 meters faster than anyone else at school) but in the right way, in a human way, in conscience? then (well, you never know, what if) the whole team will be removed from participation in the Games? Well, the lady will perform without a flag? Well, that's okay? Isn't it more correct for an athlete (well, like a child, like in a kindergarten) just to say on principle .... "Dear Olympic Committee, etc., etc., these are my brothers ( and sisters, where can I do without them))), although I train in her mother America (in the sense, the mother of all states) I am against your decision regarding the Russian team, they, my comrades (brothers in arms, so to speak) and therefore, I do not consider it possible for myself (I’m a Russian athlete, their sister) to participate in the Games ... So accept from me gentlemen and ladies from the IOC, with great respect estesna, a big human "fak" well, and how PS from me, Daria Klishina spitting on your green (undoubtedly expensive and luxurious) carpet))) Is this not the right thing to do? But this is just my vision of the situation, and what is going on in the minds of our athletes (and athletes) I do not know)))
    1. Penzuck
      21 July 2016 07: 52
      0
      Quote: Doppelgänger
      But isn’t it more correct to do this? But this is only my vision of the situation, and what is happening in the heads of our athletes (and athletes) is not known to me)))


      Joy of opportunity and agreement are two different things ...

      1. If you were tested for HIV (forgive me for being rude), but found a "gonorrhea" ... Thank you for your expert opinion. And you will be glad that it is being treated. But this does not mean at all that you are glad that you have “gonorrhea” and want the same “gonorrhap” to be found in the rest of the national team ... Although, in comparison with “HIV,” gonorrhea is nonsense. Is the analogy clear?
      2. If the whole team (and Klishina is part of it!) Defends itself in arbitration (well, not each of them is fighting separately!), Then what prevents Klishina from expressing gratitude?
      Behind the trees of the forest you can’t see, you must be able to!
  26. Alex_59
    Alex_59 21 July 2016 07: 04
    +1
    The hype fell, apparently, the article was published yesterday, but I will unsubscribe, maybe the author will read. And in that article (which is the source) and here I repeat - they completely piled on Klishina inadequately. She is not an officer, she did not swear an oath to serve here, do not go anywhere, and shoot herself if the enemies use her good name against the Motherland. Sport is not the Great Patriotic War. No need to see the battle everywhere. Just because we ourselves believe that sport is a battle for national pride, it can hurt us so much with some kind of dope, defeat of the football team and other nonsense.
    Therefore, all this criticism is past the box office. I agree with the author of this article, one of the few pluses is mine. Klishina sincerely wish you success.

    You can minus.
  27. Siberia
    Siberia 21 July 2016 08: 44
    +1
    Similar cheap bullying that A. Serebryakova, that D. Klishina cause a feeling of disgust. At least someone (Penzuck) took the time to object to such scribblers, using cheap tricks to manipulate the opinions of the crowd and taking on the right to be the arbiters of human destinies. Plus to the author from me.

    Ps: "Do not judge, that you will not be judged."