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Opinion of the State Department has not changed-MH17 was shot down over the Donbas from the territory controlled by the militias

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Washington continues to insist that the Malaysian "Boeing" in 2014 g was shot down over the Donbass by a rocket fired from the territory controlled by the militias, reports RIA News Statement by State Department spokesman Mark Toner.


Opinion of the State Department has not changed-MH17 was shot down over the Donbas from the territory controlled by the militias


“In October 2015, we welcomed the findings of the Netherlands Security Council on the causes of the MH-17 disaster. This report indicates that the plane was hit by a ground-to-air missile. Our overall assessment has not changed - the rocket was fired from the territory controlled by the separatists in the east of Ukraine, supported by Russia ",
said toner.

According to him, "the United States continues to work with the investigative team and law enforcement agencies."

“We are fully confident that these professionals are conducting an impartial, comprehensive and credible investigation, on the basis of which an independent accusation will be formed in order to bring to justice those responsible for this tragedy,” the official said.
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  1. SRC P-15
    SRC P-15 17 July 2016 09: 22
    +62
    And we have not changed our opinion regarding the State Department! negative
    1. Aleksander
      Aleksander 17 July 2016 09: 26
      +36
      Quote: SRC P-15
      And we have not changed our opinion regarding the State Department! negative


      Which did not present ANY ONE evidence other than empty chatter.
      An "authoritative" opinion, of course.
      1. bovig
        bovig 17 July 2016 10: 28
        +18
        Quote: Aleksander
        Quote: SRC P-15
        And we have not changed our opinion regarding the State Department! negative


        Which did not present ANY ONE evidence other than empty chatter.
        An "authoritative" opinion, of course.

        If they had evidence, they would have presented it long ago ... Therefore, they are forced to drag out the time of the investigation and make an attempt with the help of multiple opinions to form the illusion of evidence. Legally, it turns out that Ukraine should be responsible for the downed Boeing, because the Donetsk republics are not recognized and do not exist "de jure", and therefore the Boeing was shot down over the territory of Ukraine ... Ukraine is supported (and supported at that time) by the State Department - who is responsible for the downed boeing? According to the plan, it should have been shot down over the territory of the Rostov region (to create a casus belli), but the Ukrainians overdid it in their zeal, or were afraid that our air defense would not allow this to be done ... Now, this hemorrhoids somehow need to be dealt with - well, not confess what you have done! So, this is an informational stuffing - another attempt to "push through" your opinion, or even delay the investigation for an indefinite period, because there is NOTHING to submit to the court! It would be WHAT - would just sue!
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        2. WKS
          WKS 17 July 2016 11: 08
          +13
          What is the difference from what territory of Ukraine they shot him down. What the hell did he fly there? There is a war going on in the Donbass, military and transport planes are shot down almost every day, and the civil corridor over this zone functions as if nothing had happened. Here is the mean intention of American puppeteers. Instead of ordering their Banderaites to close the skies for civilians, they recommend that they stuff the civil war zone of the air defense systems to repel impending attacks by Russian aircraft. Here is the result: people who may not even have heard of this conflict were killed. Consequently, the United States is to blame for organizing the Bandera coup in Kiev, and deliberately creating a situation in which the death of a civilian ship was only a temporary matter. Surely American flights there either did not go there or were transferred to other corridors.
      2. laboratory assistant
        laboratory assistant 17 July 2016 11: 10
        0
        Quote: Aleksander

        Which did not present ANY ONE evidence other than empty chatter.

        And what could they imagine after, for example, such convincing evidence? Just chatting.
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      4. laboratory assistant2
        laboratory assistant2 17 July 2016 17: 58
        -9
        Quote: Aleksander

        Which did not present ANY ONE evidence other than empty chatter.
        An "authoritative" opinion, of course.

        I understand that everyone here has already forgotten how it all began and how it was later. I remind you:
        P.S. About the fakes of the Russian media, such as - Sushka flies, Boeing is ahead, but in the middle of the rocket I think it’s not worth mentioning, so that it would be completely dishonorable?


        1. Aleksandr1981
          Aleksandr1981 17 July 2016 19: 00
          +4
          And is this, in your opinion, irrefutable evidence of Russia's guilt ??? You are a European nerd! How old are you??? I’ll write in contact that the Martians did this, will you believe ???? First of all, Ukraine did not close the sky for flights, and this is definitely her fault! But this fact is intentionally hushed up. European experts have not been able to conduct a ballistic examination for 2 years ????? Delirium, of course they can and have long been spent. It's just that you need to veil the results. I want to remind you that it was still unknown why the plane crashed, and independent and truthful Western media have already written that Putin personally shot it down!
          1. laboratory assistant2
            laboratory assistant2 17 July 2016 19: 32
            -8
            Quote: Aleksandr1981
            And is this, in your opinion, irrefutable evidence of Russia's guilt ??? You are a European nerd!

            Of course not. This is all irrefutable evidence of the guilt of Ukraine. And ukrobandera terribly scared and voted against the Boeing Tribunal, forgot?
            Quote: Aleksandr1981
            Ukraine has not closed the sky for flights, and this is definitely her fault!

            This is 100%.
            Quote: Aleksandr1981
            But this fact is intentionally hushed up.

            Now, if they knew foreign languages ​​at least at the level of "Ain und tswanzikh für und zibtsikh" (s), they would know that this is not so, but so ...
            Quote: Aleksandr1981
            and independent and truthful Western media have already written that Putin personally shot him down!

            Well, they definitely could not surpass the independent Russian media. What is the "version" with corpses on board or this enchanting "photo" crying
        2. Svidetel 45
          Svidetel 45 17 July 2016 21: 18
          +2
          Strelkov's commentary, for all your attempts, can in no way serve as evidence that Byng was shot down by the militia. Yes, the militia had shot down a Ukrainian transport aircraft shortly before that, but they had brought it down at a low altitude when the latter was approaching, and when eyewitnesses, including the militia, watched the Boeing fall, knowing that it could only be a Ukrainian plane, so As the DPR did not have its own aviation, it is natural that they immediately attributed to themselves another "success" in the fight against the Armed Forces of Ukraine and Strelkov announced this to raise morale, not knowing that a civilian plane was shot down, and the "achievement" is entirely on the account of the Armed Forces. So the "chest" just opens. If you had at least more or less worthy proof of the guilt of the militia, you would have presented it long ago, and you cannot create false evidence, so you just have to suck these "proofs" out of your finger.
          Well, the fact that the State Department "has not changed its mind", then who would doubt, Russophobes now do not doubt that the Volyn massacre was not staged by the Banderaites. and the Russians. For you, Russophobes, Russia’s fault is that it simply exists, and if so, we are always ready to hang all the "dogs" on it.
          1. Paranoid50
            Paranoid50 17 July 2016 21: 55
            +2
            Quote: Svidetel 45
            Comment Strelkova

            So in 2014, if you remember, there were so many "comments from Strelkov" circulated on the network that then Strelkov himself warned that all this hat should not be trusted.
          2. laboratory assistant2
            laboratory assistant2 18 July 2016 07: 44
            0
            Quote: Svidetel 45
            Strelkova’s comment on all your attempts can in no way serve as evidence that Bing was shot down by militia.

            Well then, the State Department’s comments about, for example, the shooting of a wedding in Afghanistan cannot serve as evidence. Is it logical after all?

            Quote: Svidetel 45
            If you had at least more or less worthy proof of the guilt of the militia, you would have presented it long ago, and you cannot create false evidence, so you just have to suck these "proofs" out of your finger.

            Should I suck? Are you seriously? Both the militia and the Russian media have piled this evidence so much that I generally rest. About ridiculous evidence about the reverse side, I generally keep quiet.
        3. Locksmith
          Locksmith 17 July 2016 22: 21
          0
          Quote: Lab Assistant2
          I understand that everyone here has already forgotten how it all began

          And some did not even bother to find out HOW EVERYTHING STARTED.
          As our Foreign Ministry says - "stupid people, damn it .."
    2. razmik72
      razmik72 17 July 2016 09: 33
      +6
      Quote: SRC P-15
      And we have not changed our opinion regarding the State Department! negative

      The US State Department reminds me of an old woman Shapoklyak from the cartoon, trying to get along where it is possible and not possible!
      1. Warm Padded Jacket
        Warm Padded Jacket 17 July 2016 09: 42
        +2
        made disgust, joy to the heart)
    3. papas-57
      papas-57 17 July 2016 09: 39
      +10
      We do not need an opinion, we need evidence.
      1. meriem1
        meriem1 17 July 2016 09: 49
        +12
        Quote: papas-57
        We do not need an opinion, we need evidence.

        And it's time to stop We chew snot. As soon as this is announced, immediately a lawsuit is filed for libel !!! Both the Olympians and the newly minted Premier May screamed again about polonium. We must sue! Anyone wins! Either we will publicly defend ourselves from such attacks, or if the decisions of the courts are unauthorized, then our own "sinless" judicial system will crumble in the eyes of the West! People are not blind or deaf!
    4. siberalt
      siberalt 17 July 2016 09: 43
      +7
      Opinion, where is the confirmation? Or will they refer to Psaki’s statement from the Internet? laughing Let them upload their satellite images. It would be that their nonsense confirming them would have been posted long ago.
      1. Lelek
        Lelek 17 July 2016 12: 54
        +2
        Quote: siberalt
        siberalt


        Don't be naive. The credo of the USA is "it is so, because WE said so." Psaki was only the voice of the State Department, and all her "bloopers" are those of the State Department, which is an instrument of "leeches" from the Bilderberg club (by the way, AB Chubais is a member of this club).
      2. laboratory assistant2
        laboratory assistant2 17 July 2016 19: 46
        -1
        Quote: siberalt
        Let them upload their satellite images.

        After the Russian "satellite image" they realized that their card was a bit.
        1. Svidetel 45
          Svidetel 45 17 July 2016 21: 22
          +1
          It would be nice not only to beat their card, but something else.
      3. Locksmith
        Locksmith 17 July 2016 22: 25
        0
        Quote: siberalt
        Don't be naive

        .... This is the right foot of the one you need .... (C) wink
    5. Simpsonian
      Simpsonian 17 July 2016 09: 46
      +4
      Quote: SRC P-15
      And we have not changed our opinion regarding the State Department! negative

      Why? More and more getting stronger ...
    6. Juborg
      Juborg 17 July 2016 12: 22
      +2
      Apparently soon we will hear that the September 11 terrorist attack was exactly what Russia did, because 80% of the Japanese are sure that the Russians dropped atomic bombs on Japan.
    7. Locksmith
      Locksmith 17 July 2016 22: 08
      0
      “We are fully confident that these professionals will conduct an impartial, comprehensive and credible investigation, on the basis of which an independent prosecution will be formed with the aim of holding those responsible for this tragedy accountable.”

      Uh, did you ask the psaki? Suddenly there is a completely different opinion, in her office laughing
  2. oleg-gr
    oleg-gr 17 July 2016 09: 22
    +6
    So they will stand their ground. You can’t admit a mistake now. Elections on the nose. Then, after the election, all dogs can be hung on the predecessor. He is a Nobel laureate.
  3. forester
    forester 17 July 2016 09: 23
    +4
    Well, anyone would doubt it !!!!
  4. Andrey K
    Andrey K 17 July 2016 09: 23
    +16
    “In October 2015, we welcomed the findings of the Dutch Security Council on the causes of the MH-17 disaster. This report indicates that the plane was shot down by a surface-to-air missile. Our overall assessment has not changed - the missile was fired from territory controlled by separatists in eastern Ukraine, supported by Russia "

    State Department interferes with publicity or publicity (underline as necessary) ...
    Experts point to the type of weapons, and the State Department tells who it was used ...
    As usual - at the State Department, the cart is riding in front of the horse ...
    For this, I think I will express a universal opinion from the State Department assessment:
    State Department comrades-stick your ratings based on your opinion in ... your * opu. There they belong hi
    1. Alexanast
      Alexanast 17 July 2016 10: 32
      +11
      Somehow harshly expressed comrade ... wink

      State Department comrades-stick your ratings based on your opinion in ... your * opu.


      Not tolerantly somehow ...
      Not in * opuh, probably, but as it were ... HERE, WHERE THE SUNLIGHT DOES NOT REACH!
      And yes, I think most forum users agree with you.
      The opinion of the State Department is of no interest to us.
      1. excomandante
        excomandante 17 July 2016 10: 54
        +4
        At the State Departments THERE sunlight peeks at ease))))
    2. wasjasibirjac
      wasjasibirjac 17 July 2016 10: 33
      +1
      Quote: Andrey K
      For this, I think I will express a universal opinion from the State Department assessment:
      State Department comrades-stick your ratings based on your opinion in ... your * opu. There they belong
      And deeper, deeper.
    3. Djubal
      Djubal 17 July 2016 14: 33
      +1
      Quote: Andrey K
      put your grades based on your opinion in ... your * opu.

      Umm ... to Europe?)))
  5. Altona
    Altona 17 July 2016 09: 25
    +8
    By the way, that's all "State Department, State Department". For those who don't know - the Department of State is the US Department of Foreign Affairs. How can the Foreign Ministry know who shot down? This is done by ICAO and other aviation organizations that have competence in this kind of matters. But the US State Department is apparently always in the know. However, if we assume that US ambassadors and consuls are in fact legal residents of the CIA and NSA, then it is not surprising where it comes from.
  6. Egoza
    Egoza 17 July 2016 09: 29
    +9
    No one doubted that the "verdict" would be just that. "Donbass must be destroyed, there are all Russian terrorists." "Donbass is an indivisible part of Ukraine." But the United States does not react to Petit's statement - "Ukraine will never recognize Israel. Israel must return to Palestine." Hey! And what will Israel say? wassat
    1. forester
      forester 17 July 2016 09: 36
      +2
      Quote: Egoza
      ! And sho say Israel?

      Yes, it seems he will not say anything except that Kedmi will be indignant at the "Eton" TV (((
    2. Lelek
      Lelek 17 July 2016 13: 03
      +3
      Quote: Egoza
      Egoza


      Hello, Elena.
      Confused, debatable, but in some respects right. Actually, I personally do not care what the hetman of the former Ukraine says, let him whine (he earns greens for himself from this). Here I came across an interesting little note, which I will share (click):
  7. Rock_n_roll
    Rock_n_roll 17 July 2016 09: 31
    +4
    The main thing is this opinion, and its supporting arguments are absolutely not important.
    1. Koshak
      Koshak 17 July 2016 10: 03
      +1
      Quote: Rock_n_Roll
      The main thing is this opinion, and its supporting arguments are absolutely not important.

      Yes, this is not an opinion, but, in practice, an indication to the commission of inquiry what the results of the investigation should be, and so that no other versions even consider.
  8. forester
    forester 17 July 2016 09: 32
    +4
    It's funny, however - the Congress requires strengthening sanctions, in fact, the requirement to remove the national team from the Olympics, now the State Department has started an old record and all this against the background of the arrival of the carry - it looks like a "brick to sell" came)))
    1. 2s1122
      2s1122 17 July 2016 10: 31
      +2
      If not with Boeing, they will at least crush meldonium, the main thing is because the gates will not be smudged, and there at least grass will not grow recourse as they say
  9. midshipman
    midshipman 17 July 2016 09: 33
    +12
    I had to investigate aircraft accidents. This incident was investigated with wild violations. Jew Kolomoisky sent on indefinite leave dispatchers responsible for the posting of the aircraft, which no one had interrogated. I have published an article about violations of the procedures for investigating this incident with specialists from the MSTU GA. You can familiarize yourself with it.
    It should be taken into account that shortly before this event, the plane of our President V.V. should fly along this corridor Putin. I have the honor.
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 17 July 2016 11: 13
      +2
      Quote: midshipman
      I had to investigate aircraft accidents.
      It should be taken into account that shortly before this event, the plane of our President V.V. should fly along this corridor Putin. I have the honor.

      The board of Russia No. 1 was supposed to fly over the war zone, where it is possible to use air defense, both ground and air based? belay Yes, my friend you rave!
    2. Svidetel 45
      Svidetel 45 17 July 2016 21: 29
      +1
      So after all, the purpose of the investigation is not to reveal the truth, but to make Russia and the militias guilty, it seems that this is a well-prepared provocation, similar to the one committed by "our partners" in the Far East in 83.
  10. Budilnik
    Budilnik 17 July 2016 09: 35
    +6
    How could it be otherwise, it was originally conceived by the State Department. All this is obvious and supported by evidence. It was much more cunning with the South Korean airliner at the time. but there was a win-win option for them: the USSR will bring down a plane - we will declare it an evil empire, will it fail - we will open the air defense system and its operation modes. The reserves of deceit and anger at the world of Slavs and Orthodoxy in this true empire of evil and the devil are inexhaustible and one must be extremely collected carefully and ready to reflect its attacks. Sooner or later - and it seems to me in this century - there must come a dismantling and a denouement between the forces of good and evil.
  11. Masya masya
    Masya masya 17 July 2016 09: 35
    +4
    “We are fully confident that these professionals are conducting an impartial, comprehensive and credible investigation that will inform an independent accusation,” but “Washington continues to insist that a Malaysian Boeing was shot down over Donbas by a missile in 2014. released from the territory controlled by the militia "- that's the whole ficus ... The Dutch have a dilemma ...
  12. viktor561
    viktor561 17 July 2016 09: 38
    +2
    The United States has already become so overwhelmed - that they don’t need proof - only their opinion (Iraq, Libya, Yugoslavia, etc.) And only Russia can put them in their place — that is, drive them to their continent — and let them blather
  13. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 17 July 2016 09: 38
    0
    Even the monkey from the zoo has an opinion on this issue.
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 17 July 2016 10: 11
      +2
      Quote: Alexander 3
      Even the monkey from the zoo has an opinion on this issue.

      Do you mean Obama? But in truth, there should be postings of air defense officers and Rostov dispatchers. I don’t believe that we didn’t see him before accepting the MN-17 board for the route. But the fact that the Americans have pictures is very I doubt it. Not in the media, so they would have provided them to the commission of inquiry. We would not have missed the moment to put the hedgehog in our pants.
  14. APASUS
    APASUS 17 July 2016 09: 38
    +2
    The Americans had two years for the maximum complication of the investigation and the production of left-hand shots. Now, for sure, all the ends are in the water and even the dispatchers have died from "food" poisoning
  15. askort154
    askort154 17 July 2016 09: 39
    +2
    When Obama leaves, Poroshenko will leave and only then, perhaps, they will voice - "we were wrong." We were misinformed by the special services, in fact, the Boeing was shot down by the Ukrainian air defense. But the "world" will no longer be interested in it. This is not an accident, it is a system.
  16. yuriy55
    yuriy55 17 July 2016 09: 48
    +4
    All misinterpreted blindly
    Representatives of the State Department.
    Isn't it time, like Europe,
    We send them together in w ...
    fool
  17. roman72-452
    roman72-452 17 July 2016 09: 49
    +2
    They believe in it, and believe that everyone else is also obliged to believe in it. And the evidence? Well, who needs it, here on Facebook posted pictures wassat Laughter and only, "investigate" for two years, and no evidence, from the word at all.
  18. BOB044
    BOB044 17 July 2016 09: 53
    +1
    Opinion of the State Department has not changed-MH17 was shot down over the Donbas from the territory controlled by the militias
    Stick your opinion know where. At least one fact confirmed by the document. Images from space your companion at that time was over this territory. One of the sorrows of gentlemen from Gavdep.
  19. Khariton
    Khariton 17 July 2016 09: 53
    0
    Who is interested in the article plus ...?
    1. Gray brother
      Gray brother 17 July 2016 09: 59
      +2
      Quote: Chariton
      Who is interested in the article plus ...?

      I have plus. I see no reason to put cons just for information, even if it is negative.
      1. Dr. Bormental
        Dr. Bormental 17 July 2016 10: 11
        +3
        Quote: Gray Brother
        I see no reason to put cons just for information, even if it is negative

        Well, then why put a plus? fellow
        1. Gray brother
          Gray brother 17 July 2016 10: 28
          +2
          Quote: Dr. Bormental
          Well, then why put a plus?

          How for what? They informed you, the article was posted, some kind of work but no - thank you for that.
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      3. Khariton
        Khariton 17 July 2016 10: 18
        -4
        Quote: Gray Brother
        Quote: Chariton
        Who is interested in the article plus ...?

        I have plus. I see no reason to put cons just for information, even if it is negative.

        For that honestly admitted well done! But the explanation is muddy ...
  20. uralex
    uralex 17 July 2016 09: 55
    +2
    The world is still trying to fill the wrong "Toner" ...
  21. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 17 July 2016 09: 58
    +2
    Opinion is not facts ...
    1. Bath
      Bath 17 July 2016 10: 38
      +1
      Kosher photo oh wey would you see him in a pile
      1. Khariton
        Khariton 17 July 2016 10: 48
        0
        Quote: Bath
        Kosher photo oh wey would you see him in a pile

        Oi vey ... bully
  22. parafoiler
    parafoiler 17 July 2016 09: 58
    0
    Stubborn scoundrels this State Department. What's on their forehead, what's on their forehead ...
    1. kotvov
      kotvov 17 July 2016 10: 20
      0
      Stubborn scoundrels this State Department,
      it's not about obstinacy, it's about conducting an operation — all evil in Russia.
    2. 2s1122
      2s1122 17 July 2016 11: 00
      0
      Even better in the temple and twice for fidelity laughing
  23. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 17 July 2016 10: 00
    +1
    A built-in lie system should work AS A SYSTEM. If you take out a brick from it, it’s different, and the system will squint and may even fall ...
    Therefore, NO evidence is irrelevant. They will be THINKED or FABRICATED, or even dispensed with. They will buy witnesses, eliminate unnecessary witnesses, and so on ... The Jesuit - the end justifies the means - no one canceled.
  24. Tusv
    Tusv 17 July 2016 10: 01
    0
    According to him, "the United States continues to work with the investigative team and law enforcement agencies."

    As usual. The culprits will be appointed, but the fact that the Russian air defense officer knows how to distinguish a civilian side from a military one does not care, by the way, I was taught this by an ordinary Lugansk guy, a sergeant guard
  25. kind
    kind 17 July 2016 10: 03
    0
    someday the truth will come out. And then an international tribunal will be needed, and all those responsible should be dropped from a height of 10000 m.
    1. Svidetel 45
      Svidetel 45 17 July 2016 21: 34
      +1
      You can throw it off, but since we are against the death penalty, we should give everyone an umbrella before dropping off, let them plan.
  26. Fonmeg
    Fonmeg 17 July 2016 10: 03
    +2
    According to him, "the United States continues to work with the investigative team and law enforcement agencies."


    How these Americans "work" in such cases, many people know! The "cap" is reliable, and what thread they pull, then they will make dolls. Until now, they do not show the results of satellite observation, which means that these data are not in their and their minions' benefit!
  27. WHITE CAT
    WHITE CAT 17 July 2016 10: 04
    +2
    But who would doubt that their opinion has not changed. Our opinion about the State Department has not changed either.laughing
  28. Mykl
    Mykl 17 July 2016 10: 10
    +2
    When did you need evidence? They are accustomed to wishful thinking everywhere and always. So it was in Yugoslavia, in Iraq, in Libya, in Syria. Now they decided that Russia was to blame. In everything. I would not be surprised if, in the reasons for the miscarriage, the 17th wife of the leader of the forgotten African tribe will also find a Russian trace.
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 17 July 2016 10: 26
      0
      Quote: MyKL
      When did you need evidence? They are accustomed to wishful thinking everywhere and always. So it was in Yugoslavia, in Iraq, in Libya, in Syria. Now they decided that Russia was to blame. In everything. I would not be surprised if, in the reasons for the miscarriage, the 17th wife of the leader of the forgotten African tribe will also find a Russian trace.

      Then, when they are given in the face, but they can not answer.
  29. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 17 July 2016 10: 18
    0
    Do not be on board a Boeing citizen of the United States, he had to come up with what would enter the commission.
  30. Zomanus
    Zomanus 17 July 2016 10: 19
    0
    Well, who would doubt it ...
    They always have an opinion against us.
    1. Khariton
      Khariton 17 July 2016 10: 54
      0
      Quote: Zomanus
      Well, who would doubt it ...
      They always have an opinion against us.

      The Boeing was shot down and the very next day loud statements were first made by Parashenko, and then the owner announced to the whole world .. THIS IS RUSSIA GUILTY! Immediately sanctions and screams in the European chicken coop .. Now the choral howl so that Russia is not allowed to the Olympics .. All adequate people in the world have long understood why this is all done .. RUSSIA WANTS TO BE INDEPENDENT, and yet we do not like injustice!
  31. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 17 July 2016 10: 49
    0
    The foul-smelling State Department in 10 years will say that their opinion was a mistake, we have already passed it, although they can say it earlier, as soon as they decide to throw horses.
  32. mamont5
    mamont5 17 July 2016 10: 51
    +1
    "The US continues to work with the investigation team and law enforcement," he said.

    Here is THIS, the key words in the report. It's all about the "work" of the United States.
  33. Belarus
    Belarus 17 July 2016 10: 57
    0
    And how can you talk to this American DBM who has pushed to Moscow to Lavrov ????
  34. 1536
    1536 17 July 2016 10: 58
    +1
    The opinion of a terrorist organization, called for some reason the State Department, should not interest anyone. They lead the world to a military disaster. It is beneficial to them, like any sadists and terrorists.
  35. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 17 July 2016 11: 02
    0
    Grandmothers at the bazaar also say a lot of things — and more interesting than that State Department, but for some reason we perceive every barking from the USA in our direction very painfully. You need to learn how to behave from the United States as a psychiatrist with a schizophrenic, and just ignore their nonsense.
  36. mintai_kot
    mintai_kot 17 July 2016 11: 02
    +1
    Your truth! over Debaltseve (the territory of the DPR at that time), it flew no higher than 4000-5000, it had already crumbled, airline brochures were found in the city, 15-20 km remained at the crash site. Why was it accompanied by two Ukrainian air force fighters ...!? One turned around the city, the second flew after him to the crash site!
  37. sabakina
    sabakina 17 July 2016 11: 27
    +1
    In the United States, the plane that crashed into the Pentagon on 9/11 is still looking for. But this is not the main point. The main question is, how was Boeing able to "crawl" into a hole with a diameter of 2 meters?
  38. Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 17 July 2016 11: 44
    +1
    In the West, they are not familiar with eastern diplomacy - they respect a strong and principled one!

    Therefore, you need to meet the US delegation and their partners not with an American "Welcome" and a smile in the "cheese" style, but in a business, neutral style - you have arrived, so you need to! And even better, in the style of Stalin - I promised nothing to anyone, I will free myself, I will accept!
    And then, from smiles, at a meeting of representatives of a real enemy and an enemy, the brilliance of flash units is not visible! As if there were no sanctions, there was no place for the Olympic team, there was no refusal to fulfill the previously concluded international treaties, there was no frank provocative fuss at the western borders!
  39. aszzz888
    aszzz888 17 July 2016 12: 24
    +1
    the missile was fired from a territory controlled by separatists in eastern Ukraine supported by Russia, ”said Toner.

    Slanting r.lo! angry And de your satellite data angry Have you made it? So there is something to hide. It is already clear to any illiterate tribe in Africa that the Ukronazists have shot down! angry angry angry
  40. grandfather Mih
    grandfather Mih 17 July 2016 12: 28
    0
    To bring a humanitarian catastrophe in Ukraine and by any means hang this yoke with the Nazis on our neck is the task of the State Department. The worse we are, the wider the muzzle .... MN-17 from the same opera by mouth. I like to watch boxing and listen to Klitschko defects. I flattered the doctor).
  41. iouris
    iouris 17 July 2016 13: 32
    0
    If Kerry, who was negotiating something in Moscow, is the State Department, then what is the negotiation?
  42. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 17 July 2016 14: 48
    0
    Quote: meriem1
    And it's time to stop already. We chew snot. As soon as this is voiced, immediately a lawsuit in court for libel !!!

    In the Kremlin and others, the majority are US apologists. Maybe not explicit, but secret. They studied there, their children and grandchildren study and live there, they have real estate there, that "acquired by back-breaking labor" is also there. And how against all this - in court? Hands don't go up! We are used to wiping ourselves of spitting. And the fact that the people have a different opinion is the twenty-fifth thing for them.
  43. Thompson
    Thompson 17 July 2016 15: 18
    0
    And did it surprise anyone? I'm not there.
  44. wow
    wow 17 July 2016 16: 21
    0
    Until the "parashenka" is hung upside down by the legs and is not cut finely with a razor (so that the filthy blood does not clot) we will not really know anything.
  45. vmo
    vmo 17 July 2016 17: 20
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    A nadoli pay attention to these hollow breeds and ignoramus (about the sea in Belarus) ???
    These closemods and satellites do not see a damn thing!
  46. Stariknv
    Stariknv 17 July 2016 18: 00
    +1
    Provide evidence and failure.
  47. RUSIVAN
    RUSIVAN 17 July 2016 18: 54
    0
    Opinion of the State Department has not changed-MH17 was shot down over the Donbas from the territory controlled by the militias
    Yes, we already understood the invariable opinion of lobbyists from the State Department, only WHERE FACTS ???
    And so, we are generally up to 3.14zd, the opinion of "m" freaks concerned ...
  48. kot312
    kot312 17 July 2016 19: 58
    0
    The circus with "knocking down" the scenery continues))). And the shop will turn to idiocy)))
  49. Svidetel 45
    Svidetel 45 17 July 2016 21: 39
    +1
    Insolent to the limit, this time just an opinion, even a test tube did not deign to stock up and shake the whole world in front of the camera.
  50. iouris
    iouris 18 July 2016 00: 16
    0
    The logic is iron: the one who takes meldonium has brought down the notorious Boeing. Or vice versa. Whoever disagrees, let him prove the opposite.