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The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation: A number of defense companies have disrupted the deadlines for the implementation of the state order

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Work on the main types of weapons is carried out in a timely manner, however, a number of defense enterprises have failed to break government contracts and fall behind schedules, reports Interfax-AVN the message is the head of the armament of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation Anatoly Gulyayev.




“Motovilikhinskiye Zavody” disrupted government contracts for the supply and modernization of Tornado-S multiple launch rocket systems and 2СXNNXX-9М and 1СXNNXX self-propelled artillery systems, despite the fact that these contracts have already been transferred from 2 of the year, ”- –NNXX and 1 – XNNXX, although these contracts have already been transferred from the 2015 of the year,“ - NNXXXXXXXNUMX and XNUMXCXNUMX

According to him, “up to the present, there has not been a positive result from the use of anti-aircraft guided missiles developed by the Fakel enterprise, designed to equip 20380 corvettes and 22350 frigates, on the subject of Polyment-Redut.”

Gulyaev clarified that this "directly affects the delivery of the frigate of the 22350 Admiral Gorshkov project, while the Supreme Commander has set the date for the delivery of the ship - November of the year 2016."

“Due to the late delivery of the armor sheet and the weak organization of the production, there were some lags behind the manufacturing cycle of the BTR-MDM Rakushka armored personnel carriers for the Airborne Forces (supplier - Kurganmashzavod),” the lieutenant general continued.

In addition, “the lag continues behind repair schedules with the modernization of Far Aircraft aviation PJSC Tupolev, ”he said.

Also, "the terms of the obligations of the Constellation Concern for the supply of communications and automated control systems, which were also postponed from 2015 of the year, are not being complied with," Gulyaev said.

“In June, on all the above issues, hearings of the heads of enterprises were held, a set of measures was identified to eliminate the backlogs,” said the head of the main board.
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  1. Teberii
    Teberii 16 July 2016 13: 07
    -3
    Hopefully the lag will be eliminated.
    1. vlad66
      vlad66 16 July 2016 13: 19
      +17
      Quote: Teberii
      Hopefully the lag will be eliminated.

      Together with those who disrupted the state order and uncontrolled bureaucrats. It would have been more correct, the time is now not just sitting on the pope, it hurts the gunpowder.
      1. oldseaman1957
        oldseaman1957 16 July 2016 13: 25
        +20
        I hope ...
        - Stop HOPE! It is necessary to destroy mutual responsibility, otherwise Russia will continue to crawl into the economy like half-dead.
        Crush fat cats!
        1. Tambov Wolf
          Tambov Wolf 16 July 2016 18: 22
          +3
          Kotov can be transferred in three seconds. But who will do it? Not 37 years old, you see. Our things are weak for this. Liberal s, God forgive me.
      2. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 16 July 2016 13: 39
        +3
        The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation: A number of defense companies have disrupted the deadlines for the implementation of the state order
        Quote: vlad66
        Quote: Teberii
        Hopefully the lag will be eliminated.
        Together with those who disrupted the state order and uncontrolled bureaucrats
        traditionally sent to the Urals ... winked no one will put them in jail, they are "monuments". (C)
        1. captain
          captain 16 July 2016 16: 51
          +6
          We have an amazing country. No one is responsible for anything. And the archipelago of the New Siberian Islands is uninhabited. But under Comrade Stalin, those who did not fulfill the defense order would have been sent to build greenhouses on these islands ...
    2. Ami du peuple
      Ami du peuple 16 July 2016 13: 21
      +4
      Quote: Teberii
      Hope backlogs will be eliminated
      If the guilty "ski.pidarny enema with gramophone needles" is delivered, then, probably, will be eliminated. Otherwise, everything will come down to the usual "understand and forgive".
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 16 July 2016 13: 40
        +1
        Quote: Ami du peuple
        Quote: Teberii
        Hope backlogs will be eliminated
        If the guilty "ski.pidarny enema with gramophone needles" is delivered, then, probably, will be eliminated. Otherwise, everything will come down to the usual "understand and forgive".

        Dreams Dreams,
        "Where is your sweetness?" A.S. Pushkin
      2. Tusv
        Tusv 16 July 2016 14: 06
        0
        Quote: Ami du peuple
        "ski.pidar enema

        I don’t know how an enema is, but a skin bath is a real cure for radiculitis, and if the gramophone needles, then under the nails, not acupuncture
      3. Tusv
        Tusv 16 July 2016 14: 12
        +1
        Quote: Ami du peuple
        skipidary

        Jrunimaga over autocensy:
        - Please insure me.
        - oo
        - Does insurance sound better?
    3. nov_tech.vrn
      nov_tech.vrn 16 July 2016 15: 07
      +5
      I can’t keep silent about the situation with the supply of components and the rhythm of the loading of enterprises, some people think that it’s enough to give a couple of billion and it will work, and only cut it can earn immediately.
      1. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 16 July 2016 16: 03
        +3
        Quote: nov_tech.vrn
        I can’t keep silent about the situation with the supply of components and the rhythm of loading enterprises

        Ever since the times of the USSR, the mantra-sounding phrase "Suppliers are failing" is relevant to this day. Only for the host side, this is, to put it mildly, an unconvincing argument. As a result, all the bumps fly to the manufacturer of the final product, which is only partially true.
    4. Pavel1
      Pavel1 16 July 2016 18: 02
      +2
      and what are the reasons? Not professionalism, personnel problems, underfunding, evil will of ill-wishers? What is there to discuss?
  2. weksha50
    weksha50 16 July 2016 13: 08
    +4
    Mdaaaa ... Sea-ocean for the work of the government ... And in the government aquarium swan crawl, crawl and swim, crawl and pike ... And a monkey with a bunch of broken glasses leads them, and plays along with the memorable quartet of grandfather Krylov ...
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 16 July 2016 13: 31
      +4
      Quote: weksha50
      Mdaaaa ... Sea-ocean for the work of the government ... And in the government aquarium swan crawl, crawl and swim, crawl and pike ... And a monkey with a bunch of broken glasses leads them, and plays along with the memorable quartet of grandfather Krylov ...

      But isn’t it time to apply international experience in such matters, and even in tsarist Russia it was used. For the delay in the contract, penalties. For the failure of the contract, return the fully received money, plus plus penal payments. How the French calculated for their frustrated contracts. That doesn’t affect the quality and timing of the execution of orders, like penalties.
      1. your1970
        your1970 16 July 2016 13: 46
        +1
        Amurets
        there the factories were completely private, but ours are not, fine ourselves a little of that ...
        1. 34 region
          34 region 16 July 2016 14: 06
          +4
          Svo1970! 13.46. Here it is necessary to understand the reasons. Greed, fraud, negligence, incompetence, work for a competitor ... With our passion for public-private partnerships, I would not be surprised if this is an attempt to allocate more funds to a private subcontractor. And at the same time, and the setup of the state-owned enterprise. And as a result or sale of this (or part) of the enterprise in effective private hands. In a crisis, guaranteed profit is in my opinion appreciated. Therefore, without investigating the reasons, it is too early to talk about the reasons. Although of course you can express your assumptions. Who is to blame and what to do?
          1. Bayonet
            Bayonet 16 July 2016 15: 08
            0
            Quote: Region 34
            Greed, fraud, negligence, incompetence, work for a competitor ...

            Perhaps anti-Russian sanctions, these are "we don't give a fuck." You need to figure it out ...
        2. Amurets
          Amurets 16 July 2016 14: 10
          +4
          Quote: your1970
          Amurets
          there the factories were completely private, but ours are not, fine ourselves a little of that ...

          In tsarist Russia, 80% of industry was in the hands of the state, but the methods of management were like in private factories. The only difference was that they could not go bankrupt, and private factories that carried out important government orders were simply bought out by the state in case of bankruptcy. the bureaucracy in the government, in order to make life easier for itself, is trying to shake off the factories in private hands. What comes out of this, I just will not list all the factories that we lost after their transfer to private hands. Enough "Russian Diesel", Daldizel, KZKT. These the factories also carried out military orders or worked for the defense industry.
      2. Stiletto_711
        Stiletto_711 16 July 2016 17: 23
        +12
        Yeah, come on. By chain:
        - directors to plant,
        - arrest accounts,
        - claims for non-payments,
        - bankruptcy proceedings,
        - competition manager,
        - favorite labor collective, there is no money for salary, but you hold on!
        - a year later, a new state order - oh, and where is this enterprise? What are the Vietnamese? What slippers are sewn?

        You read the materials on the site and comments to them and you are amazed. Everyone gradually forgot that the industry, and the defense industry in particular, had been strenuously ruined for a quarter of a century, and that those enterprises that remained afloat did so in spite of everything, mainly working for export. Accordingly, both the production capacity and the staff of the enterprises were optimized for these purposes. The volume of exports increased, and even then the big leaders urgently decided to buy a bunch of airplanes, paraboots, steamships for the Red Army. And the fact that the scheme of industrial cooperation in some areas in the military-industrial complex strongly resembles a sequential series of narrow bottlenecks - that's all to the spotlight. For example, there is only one manufacturer of optical glass (goes to all fire control systems, optoelectronic units, recording devices, etc.) in Russia. And now they come to such a monopolist by captivity, a bunch of applications from the entire domestic defense industry and it turns out as in that joke: "All that I can ...".
        Most of the enterprises of the state defense order executors are now consolidated into holdings, and the holdings in the state corporation, which are supervised by the Ministry of Industry and Trade. Here's where to ask a couple of questions. Otherwise, it seems that their activities boil down to sending effective managers to industrial enterprises who are familiar with mechanical engineering from the catalog of LEXUS cars purchased for official use, and also in organizing meetings on the topic "Why don't rockets fly ?!"
  3. sober
    sober 16 July 2016 13: 11
    +11
    but one more in the case of defense service by udo was released
  4. APASUS
    APASUS 16 July 2016 13: 14
    +4
    So you should draw conclusions in such a situation!
    It’s not worth it to cut off your shoulder right away, but it’s worth looking at the reasons for this situation, maybe which company needs modernization, its debts are a burden, and which director should be charged directly.
    I would make a dependent wage rate for everyone. The enterprise worked and the workers and the director got a profit, went to a loss - the director must suck his finger first!
    In the meantime, we have RUSNANO at a loss, and Chubais throughout the country claim that they have money to hell!
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 16 July 2016 13: 44
      +3
      Quote: APASUS
      So you should draw conclusions in such a situation!
      It’s not worth chopping off your shoulder right away, but it’s worth looking at the reasons for this situation.

      I already wrote about this above, I just want to add. If a large order and large payments, the order was divided into stages. I made the volume of the first stage, accepted it from you, the customer pays the payment. This is well described by the authors Melnikov and Tsvetkov about the construction of ships. Melnikova R.M. in general, you can learn a lot about life and industry in Tsarist Russia. Not speculation and fantasy, but how the construction of ships was organized, how calculations were made, and much more.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 16 July 2016 17: 53
        +1
        Quote: Amurets
        I already wrote about this above, I just want to add. If a large order and large payments, the order was divided into stages. I made the volume of the first stage, we took it from you, the customer pays the payment. X

        This is approximately what is done with a federal order. Only the enterprise is usually poor and takes a loan from the bank to replenish working capital. This includes an intermediary, and its percentage is not included in the estimated cost. Here is the low quality of military products, delays, and deliveries not according to the nomenclature , attempts to chemical.
        And when concluding an agreement with a foreign customer, there the company receives fixed assets only after the transfer of goods, but there work with currency and, as a rule, the exchange rate covers all interest.
  5. vfqjh
    vfqjh 16 July 2016 13: 18
    +6
    No matter how haili "scoop", but we did the defense industry. They didn't chase after money, but the prestige of the company took place. I hope they will settle it.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 16 July 2016 13: 45
      +6
      Quote: vfqjh
      . I hope that they will resolve.


      Hope is a dubious haven.
      “The hopes of young men feed,
      The elders are given joy ”
      But still they are gradually melting. (G. Glinka) what
  6. knn54
    knn54 16 July 2016 13: 19
    +6
    It is necessary to allocate not money, but cartridges to "fight" the (chronic) backlog.
  7. iouris
    iouris 16 July 2016 13: 20
    +7
    You hold on there.
    No money left
  8. sober
    sober 16 July 2016 13: 20
    +10
    Yesterday, 14:04 Evgeny Kalyukov
    The defendant of the “Oboronservis case” received parole
    2
    Read 5 times

    Former General Director of the District Material Warehouse of the Moscow Air Force District Maxim Zakutailo
    Photo: Artyom Geodakyan / TASS
    Vasilieva is free
    The defendant in the case of "Oboronservis" was released July 1, 14:37
    The defendant of the Oboronservis case was released ahead of schedule contrary to the colony’s opinion June 20, 12:27
    43 more material
    The application for the release of Maxim Zakutailo was approved by the Kirov-Chepetsk District Court. Former colleague Evgenia Vasilieva will be able to leave the colony in ten days

    The Kirov-Chepetsk District Court of the Kirov Region decided to conditionally release (UDO) the former general director of the District Material Warehouse of the Moscow District Air Force and Air Defense Maxim Zakutailo, who was held with Evgenia Vasilyeva in the Oboronservis case, reports “ RIA News".

    “Zakutailo’s petition for parole was approved by the court,” said the convict’s lawyer Oleg Bessonov. According to the lawyer, he will leave the colony in ten days, when the court decision comes into force.

    In May 2015, Zakutailo, accused of committing embezzlement of public funds, was sentenced to three and a half years in prison with a sentence in a penal colony. In the spring of 2016, the convict filed a petition to replace the unserved term with a milder type of punishment, but then the court refused him.

    In June 2016, the Sudogodsky District Court of the Vladimir Region parole another person involved in the Oboronservis case, Irina Egorova. Then it was reported that the decision on parole was made, "despite the objections of the colony."

    Read more at RBC:
    http://www.rbc.ru/society/15/07/2016/5788bf9c9a79474e7feedbcf
  9. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 16 July 2016 13: 23
    +4
    What to discuss here, stating facts without analyzing the reasons for the lag? I don’t think everything is so simple. Organizational conclusions are the last thing, problems must be dealt with from bottom to top for all redistributions.
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  10. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 16 July 2016 13: 24
    0
    Not everything is simple with the State Defense Order. But with Kozhugetovich "you will not be spoiled". Whoever needs it, he will put out the squeeze, whoever needs it - he will sit. Everything cannot be all right at once. Military production is a complex mechanism, a whole crowd of subcontractors, a lot of private companies that can "run out" with money, go bankrupt, etc. It is necessary to establish order, although it is not easy.
  11. red joni
    red joni 16 July 2016 13: 27
    +3
    and in Novosibirsk, the NVA factory exceeded the order for cartridges and ammunition and explosives at 258% on an annualized basis, despite the American sanctions imposed on it, I think these enterprises will catch up with the military all the same.
    1. arlekin
      arlekin 16 July 2016 13: 34
      +8
      Quote: red joni
      and in Novosibirsk, the NVA factory exceeded the order for cartridges and ammunition and explosives at 258% on an annualized basis, despite the American sanctions imposed on it, I think these enterprises will catch up with the military all the same.

      Please explain what it means to overfulfill the order. They were ordered 1 wagon cartridges, and they delivered 3,5 wagon for the same money?
  12. atamankko
    atamankko 16 July 2016 13: 29
    0
    It's time to seriously punish such work,
    no matter whose relative and who asks for him.
  13. Warrior-80
    Warrior-80 16 July 2016 13: 29
    +1
    It is necessary to create a commission on defense of the order on an ongoing basis, to deal with cases of disruption of those responsible for criminal liability
  14. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
    Andrei from Chelyabinsk 16 July 2016 13: 32
    0
    Well, Christmas trees, so Polement-Redoubt never flies ...
    This is really bad
  15. prior
    prior 16 July 2016 13: 41
    +3
    Normal practice for effective managers. In order to receive a state order everything is promised - both deadlines, quality, and performance characteristics ...
    It’s abnormal practice - that no one is responsible for anything with his head, and the stolen money is enough to live comfortably until the end of days.
    Otherwise, what a wonderful government we would have now ....
    1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
      Andrei from Chelyabinsk 16 July 2016 18: 02
      0
      Quote: prior
      Normal practice for effective managers. In order to receive a state order everything is promised - both deadlines, quality, and performance characteristics ...

      Dear, have you ever had anything to do with government procurement?
  16. Pitot
    Pitot 16 July 2016 13: 41
    -1
    It's time to take repressive measures. Armament is a matter of national security. And actions such as non-compliance are sabotage. I wonder who is managing there? Any rot again? Or from some kind of failure to get the loot? I hope to sort it out, draw conclusions for the future ....
    1. yuriy55
      yuriy55 16 July 2016 14: 13
      0
      Quote: Pitot
      It's time to take repressive measures.


      It's time to take repressive measures as laws am It's a pity that DG ran away for the holidays lol ... yes, and hardly would have accepted No.
    2. Amurets
      Amurets 16 July 2016 14: 16
      +1
      Quote: Pitot
      It's time to take repressive measures. Armament is a matter of national security. And actions such as non-compliance are sabotage. I wonder who is managing there? Any rot again? Or from some kind of failure to get the loot? I hope to sort it out, draw conclusions for the future ....

      You take a list of the economic bloc of the government, headed by the prime minister, and here is the answer to your question.
    3. VALERIK_097
      VALERIK_097 16 July 2016 17: 17
      +4
      Pitot (3) RU Today, 13:41
      Before rushing into the words about sabotage, you need to know the topic. Here's the problem for you: dismantling one of the devices on the ship, cost 1 n / h, unscrew 8 M10 * 35 bolts, dismantle the device, draw up a defect report, transfer it to contractors.
      No one takes into account the age of the ship, and what these bolts are made of.
      Total: the stumps from the remaining bolts were cut with a chisel, the device was transferred to contractors, then there is a drill (already studs) steel 45G17YU3, to defect this weld for acceptance of OTK and VP, until I bought one well-known company for my drills, spent 80 people / hours (normal / hours and people / hours, two very big differences, I will add the working position of the OS. inconvenient).
      And where did you spot sabotage.
      1. Amurets
        Amurets 16 July 2016 23: 25
        +2
        Quote: VALERIK_097
        Total: the stumps from the remaining bolts were cut with a chisel, the device was transferred to contractors, then there is a drill (already studs) steel 45G17YU3, to defect this weld for acceptance of OTK and VP, until I bought one well-known company for my drills, spent 80 people / hours (normal / hours and people / hours, two very big differences, I will add the working position of the OS. inconvenient).
        And where did you spot sabotage.

        I know firsthand how to remove debris and what is normal / hour and person / hour and had to buy drills myself. But for some reason we used to produce and drill bits from high-quality tool steels and win. This is also known. Scrap was sent to China, or rather illiquid stocks of the instrument’s stocks, but the customs returned this scrap metal. So, this Soviet-made instrument 40-50 years old cut metal better than modern foreign drills and taps. The bad thing was that it couldn’t be used everywhere, not the running size. And the factories that produced this high-quality tool went bankrupt and collapsed. Is that not sabotage? And for the sake of and at the request of these same well-known companies.
  17. Khariton
    Khariton 16 July 2016 13: 54
    -2
    According to the idea, this should be done ... Here jackals steal!
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    1. yuriy55
      yuriy55 16 July 2016 14: 08
      +3
      Quote: plahish_alex
      DO YOU WANT TO RESTORE FOR WHICH YOU DESTROYED FOR 5 YEARS IN 20 YEARS?


      And who are they so different, all sorts of in invisible hats, that no one has seen them since 2000? belay or didn’t want to see? wink
  19. Alex_Tug
    Alex_Tug 16 July 2016 14: 34
    +3
    Quote: APASUS
    Chubais throughout the country say that they have money to hell!


    If personally Chubais, then he just to hell.
  20. PKK
    PKK 16 July 2016 14: 36
    +2
    At the beginning of the war, Stalin wrote a letter to the plant producing IL2. You make 2 planes a month, these days it will not be enough. The director assembled the Party committee, engineers, read out a letter from Stalin, thought, resolved and began to produce 24 planes a month. Now the situation is easier, than in the 41st, but relaxation is akin to betrayal. In those factories that do not fulfill the state order, people need to be encouraged to wake up and start working. Apparently the management is not able to provide a plan, you need to add leverage and pay the same management on real affairs.
  21. alfa19638
    alfa19638 16 July 2016 14: 53
    +1
    Not those ideals, not those methods.
    1. Prisoner
      Prisoner 16 July 2016 15: 54
      +1
      And the borders are being pulled up as before. We don’t want to be rolled out, sooner or later we will have to return those methods.
  22. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 16 July 2016 15: 01
    -3
    To their square and a bucket of green stuff on everyone’s head! laughing
  23. Prisoner
    Prisoner 16 July 2016 15: 55
    -3
    Give Rogozin the authority of Beria.
  24. Koronik
    Koronik 16 July 2016 16: 32
    -2
    In, Dear officers, generals, marshals waved their sabers - all for a stake, but what the Russian Defense Minister said "According to the results of the second quarter, the volume of deliveries of the main samples of military equipment is 40% of the annual plan. Thus, industrial enterprises have achieved good rates of implementation of the commitments, "said Shoigu.

    More on TASS:
    http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/3456700
  25. wadulya
    wadulya 16 July 2016 16: 58
    +2
    So they will pull and do not carry out until REAL punishments will be assigned for REAL jambs. And no private traders should be allowed to approach defense orders at all, otherwise they will do this to us from overseas for a small surcharge that at the "Y" hour all equipment will stand up at the command of the enemy. DON'T FULFILL THE ORDER-RESPONSIBLE UNDER COURT, ACCOUNTS UNDER ARREST, PROPERTY FOR TRADING and with the proceeds we quickly execute the order.
  26. Tambov Wolf
    Tambov Wolf 16 July 2016 18: 31
    +3
    Why discuss these topics. It’s clear that there’s a mess in the country. Nobody is responsible for anything. Even if they take it, they’ll either go to their stolen prisoners for probation or threaten with a finger. Then steal a coke of bread in the store and sit down .
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  28. CHRICK
    CHRICK 16 July 2016 20: 57
    0
    it is necessary that the FSB and the control and audit commission work at these enterprises, I do not exclude direct sabotage from the leadership of state order executors. Until the contingent of the white-tape vomit, which sits deeply and waits for itself better times, is cleared and calculated. I am sure that the CIA could not do without it. Stalin on them the wolves of Hamburg.
    1. Tambov Wolf
      Tambov Wolf 17 July 2016 11: 47
      0
      Don’t touch the wolves. These are beautiful and very smart animals with a strict hierarchy in the pack. Wild wolves are much smarter than some of our liberal rulers. They never allow a mess in a pack.
  29. Kudrevkn
    Kudrevkn 16 July 2016 21: 21
    +1
    The institute of military representatives has not started working? In addition, according to the results of the Military Collegium of May 18, 2015, Shevtsova reported to the GDP that the fin. monitoring in the MO "to control the targeted use of finance when paying for state defense orders and reducing overdue debts of military-industrial complex enterprises" ?! The cart is still there - nothing has been done, moreover, it is being sabotaged by the same "army general" Shevtsova and Co. At the end of the year, will we again see the "fulfillment" of the state defense order at "92%" and will be indignant that the defense industry is not working well? From year to year on the same rake?
  30. Olena
    Olena 17 July 2016 03: 32
    0
    -Chubais urgently needs to be sent there ... -That is, then it’s possible to put an end to everything ... -None saboteur will bring so much harm ... -Chubais is already the most that the last worst stage of something ...
  31. bogdan4ik
    bogdan4ik 17 July 2016 13: 11
    0
    Again?! Only Rogozin will sharpen the network, as the failure immediately follows in his sphere of responsibility. And I still put cons for what I claimed - Rogozin is an agent of Western influence and a pest of Russia.