Rocket boat "Ivanovets" seen in the Mediterranean Sea

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On Wednesday, foreign bloggers managed to photograph the Russian rocket boat "Ivanovets" during its passage through the straits into the Mediterranean Sea, reports Rossiyskaya Gazeta.



"Military experts suggest that the rocket boat Ivanovets should replace the small rocket ship Serpukhov located in Tartus, the 21631 project, which is part of the Russian grouping in the Mediterranean," the publication said.

The newspaper notes that the “large rocket boat“ Ivanovets ”(12411“ Lightning ”project) is intended to destroy enemy surface warships and landing craft at sea and in basing sites, as well as to cover their ships and vessels from surface and air threats.”

Home weapon boats - four launchers of anti-ship missiles 3М-80 "Mosquito".

“The anti-ship winged supersonic homing missile Mosquito makes a slide after launch, and then decreases to a mid-flight flight height of about 20 meters, approaching the target, it drops to seven meters. The rocket’s flight speed is Mach 2,35. Due to the high speed and impressive warhead (150 kilograms), the Mosquito is capable of sinking not only the middle-class ship, but also the cruiser. The rocket has a range of destruction up to 120 kilometers, ”writes the newspaper.

The AK-176M automatic caliber 76,2 mm caliber is located in the bow of the boat, and two 30-mm AK-630M automatic rapid-fire artillery mounts are located on the superstructure in the rear part.
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  1. +22
    16 July 2016 12: 31
    One can proudly say about this boat - a small spool, but expensive. A small "piranha", not a boat.
    1. -34
      16 July 2016 12: 42
      Boat ..? Probably from the Caspian ... It’s not just that he’s hanging around there! A bunker capable of drowning aircraft carriers ... And there’s a serious thing moving under the keel!
      1. +13
        16 July 2016 12: 54
        Quote: Chariton
        Boat ..? Probably from the Caspian ... It’s not just that he’s hanging around there! A bunker capable of drowning aircraft carriers ... And there’s a serious thing moving under the keel!

        Yeah, of course from the Caspian, where else .... wassat
        1. +23
          16 July 2016 13: 16
          Quote: arane
          Quote: Chariton
          Boat ..? Probably from the Caspian ... It’s not just that he’s hanging around there! A bunker capable of drowning aircraft carriers ... And there’s a serious thing moving under the keel!

          Yeah, of course from the Caspian, where else .... wassat
        2. +3
          17 July 2016 11: 03
          Quote: arane
          Yeah, of course from the Caspian, where else ...

          From Baikal! wassat
          1. +1
            17 July 2016 17: 13
            from the Aral Sea laughing
      2. +11
        16 July 2016 13: 00
        Quote: Chariton
        Boat ..? Probably from the Caspian ...

        Carefully, carefully, Hariton ... Even more carefully (atlas and TTX to help you). hi
        1. +24
          16 July 2016 13: 23
          Quote: Paranoid50
          Quote: Chariton
          Boat ..? Probably from the Caspian ...

          Carefully, carefully, Hariton ... Even more carefully (atlas and TTX to help you). hi

          Well, I blurted out .. Immediately laughter and Ohr began! (though he laughed when he introduced ..))))) laughing Well, I’m not a moroman and I’m not a strategic analyst .. Sorry! But I’ll tear everyone to Russia ...
          1. 0
            16 July 2016 14: 35
            Minus plus from me.
            It happens...))
          2. +8
            16 July 2016 16: 33
            Quote: Chariton
            But I’ll tear everyone to Russia ...

            Everyone doesn’t have to, otherwise there will be no one to live with. Hariton, please tear usa ..... immediately everyone will be fine laughing
          3. +10
            16 July 2016 17: 02
            Quote: Chariton
            Excuse me, but I’ll tear everyone to Russia ...

            Yes, I believe, I believe, seriously. I was convinced of this two years ago, you were still MIKHAN then. You just need to tear skillfully too, not like the Tuzik-hot-water bottle, fussy and recklessly, but calmly, according to the "cutting scheme": liver, bones, sirloin, etc. Well, in general, no kidding, a person who is ready even for Russia ... to "blow" Psaki herself is worthy of respect. I couldn't, and even alcohol wouldn't help. hi
            1. +1
              16 July 2016 17: 08
              Quote: Paranoid50
              Yes, I believe, I believe, seriously. I was convinced of this two years ago, you were still MIKHAN.

              Alexander, how could you ... turnout failed! belay
          4. +1
            16 July 2016 17: 05
            Quote: Chariton
            Well, I blurted out.

            Well, in any case, from the heart! Yes
            Quote: Chariton
            Well, I’m not a moroman and I’m not a strategic analyst .. Sorry!

            so it's the commissar to blame ... lol
            Quote: Chariton
            But I’ll tear everyone to Russia ...

            Well, your own means ... but you still need to hide - "all" - the concept without exception. drinks
        2. +7
          16 July 2016 13: 26
          Quote: Paranoid50
          atlas and performance characteristics to help you

          Of course "Ivanovets" with the Black Sea Fleet, but if he was with KKFl, then nothing would have prevented him from going to the Black Sea along the Volga-Don.
          By the way, he will pass along the Moscow channel along the Volga-Balt
          And for reference, even the flagship of the KKFl "Tatarstan" passes through the Volgo-Don
          And think about how Ding Tien Hoang got to Vietnam
          So this is your atlas and TTX to help.
          1. 0
            16 July 2016 16: 10
            Quote: bk316
            Quote: Paranoid50
            atlas and performance characteristics to help you

            Of course "Ivanovets" with the Black Sea Fleet, but if he was with KKFl, then nothing would have prevented him from going to the Black Sea along the Volga-Don.
            By the way, he will pass along the Moscow channel along the Volga-Balt
            And for reference, even the flagship of the KKFl "Tatarstan" passes through the Volgo-Don
            And think about how Ding Tien Hoang got to Vietnam
            So this is your atlas and TTX to help.


            Yes ktozh argues. Of course it is possible. Only this is pointless. And for a very long time ...
          2. +1
            16 July 2016 17: 09
            And for reference, even the flagship of the KKFl "Tatarstan" passes through the Volga-Don,
            along the Don they drag a lot of things, on pontoons they lift it up and forward.
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          1. +2
            16 July 2016 13: 49
            Quote: bk316
            By the way, he will pass along the Moscow channel along the Volga-Balt

            Yes, the meaning ?! If you have them at KChF ... That's what was meant. As well as the fact that the Caspian Flotilla seems to some already on the Pacific atolls. Of course, it would be nice, but ...: I apologize if I was misunderstood. hi
            1. +3
              16 July 2016 14: 13
              Quote: Paranoid50
              Yes, the meaning ?!

              Yes, of course, no, you just wrote about the performance characteristics ...
              And I immediately remembered the canals, because I regularly watch how they (KKFl ships) go around Bakhtiyar and the GB when Dagestan is on, not only in a boat, it’s scary to stand on the shore - all the water spills out.
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        4. +1
          16 July 2016 14: 18
          Carefully, carefully, Hariton ... Even more carefully (atlas and TTX to help you).
          ------------------------
          Num and Cho laugh at Chariton? Atlas in the teeth and looking for the Volga-Don canal is navigable even for small sea cargo ships of small tonnage. I have a familiar captain on this route.
          1. 0
            17 July 2016 07: 28
            absolutely right ! Caspian. Volga. Volga Don Channel. Don, the Black Sea - everywhere else!
      3. +2
        16 July 2016 13: 15
        Quote: Chariton
        Boat ..? Probably from the Caspian ... It’s not just that he’s hanging around there! A bunker capable of drowning aircraft carriers ... And there’s a serious thing moving under the keel!

        under the boat? hmm ... funny.
      4. +3
        16 July 2016 13: 31
        wassat And chariton is always on the contrary. Not from the proactive, but from the contrary. In pursuit of the minus, some sort of dissident is direct.
        1. +1
          16 July 2016 17: 11
          , some kind of dissident. ,,
          probably right will be a MASOCHIST.
      5. 0
        16 July 2016 14: 15
        Quote: Chariton
        Boat ..? Probably from the Caspian ...

        Is he an amphibian? I think he spanks from the Black Sea through the Bosphorus. It’s somehow not from the hands of the Caspian through the Bosphorus ... Then it’s better on the Volga-Don ... smile
      6. +2
        16 July 2016 16: 34
        Quote: Chariton
        A speedboat capable of flushing aircraft carriers.

        That, yes. Capable of. Yes ktozh let him? One.
      7. 0
        17 July 2016 11: 56
        Quote: Chariton
        Boat ..? Probably from the Caspian ..


        Why what there! Then let's suppose from Balkhash or from Issyk Kul laughing
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    2. +1
      16 July 2016 12: 45
      One can proudly say about this boat - a small spool, but expensive. A small "piranha", not a boat.

      Why are you scaring "partners". "Sailors on a pleasure yacht went to the Mediterranean to fish
      1. +3
        16 July 2016 12: 51
        Quote: Tusv
        Why are you scaring "partners". "Sailors on a pleasure yacht went to the Mediterranean to fish

        Aha! A pleasure yacht, in a ball coloring. And to "Mosquitoes" small fishing tackles catch, well, such as spinners and wobblers.
        1. 0
          16 July 2016 13: 14
          Quote: Amurets
          Aha! A pleasure yacht, in a ball coloring. And to "Mosquitoes" small fishing tackles catch, well, such as spinners and wobblers.

          You, I repeat, do not frighten the "partners", otherwise they will drag the second AUG and scare away all the fish laughing
          1. +1
            16 July 2016 13: 48
            Quote: Tusv
            You, I repeat, do not frighten the "partners", otherwise they will drag the second AUG and scare away all the fish

            If the bite is good, they will surely take a seat around. And the fish have already been scared away: by explosions in Istanbul.
      2. 0
        16 July 2016 12: 54
        Quote: razmik72
        A small piranha, not a boat.

        - Well yes. This is the forerunner of the Russian mosquito fleet in the distant seas. "Mosquitoes", "Caliber", "Club-K" - they can carry any "unexpected", which will be a headache even for "cool" amerskoy aircraft carrier groups. With a start!
    3. +3
      16 July 2016 13: 11
      Quote: razmik72
      One can proudly say about this boat - a small spool, but expensive. A small "piranha", not a boat.

      Yes Yes Yes. I understand you and sympathy. For you, it looks like a real "small rocket ship" = "large rocket boat". However, she is like that in Armenia.
    4. +5
      16 July 2016 13: 14
      Rocket boat "Ivanovets" seen in the Mediterranean Sea
      well ... complicated feelings ... pride? no. soon ... regret, not a destroyer and not a cruiser boat, at sea, in the Mediterranean ... an indicator of the state of our fleet. how everything is started ... the boat shows a flag. for Russia, it’s insulting to tears. crying
      1. +4
        16 July 2016 13: 27
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        launched ... the boat shows a flag. for Russia, it’s insulting to tears.
        I correctly your logic, what for the gun is necessary when there is a nuclear missile?
        1. +3
          16 July 2016 13: 52
          not "correct" ... I mean that Russia was once a Great Maritime Power, and now the "mosquito fleet" is justified by uryakalka, boats without air defense, without GAS, without PLRK, with 4 "mosquitoes" on board, cause They have an orgasm ... it's sad ... Do you even understand THIS? Can you even guess how many minutes of life are measured for a boat, in case of "force majeure" ???
          1. +3
            16 July 2016 14: 34
            I about the fact that Russia was once a Great Sea Power

            They were never a sea robber, the ear-mufflers really spoil statistics.
            The front page on the guis of our sailors. The galleys were moved by hand to dry land; the remains of the Swedish squadron were Russified.
            Imagine, I wanted to be a Moreman, but I became an air defense officer, however, it’s not easier for the West
          2. 0
            16 July 2016 14: 49
            ". I am about the fact that Russia was once a Great Sea Power, and now it is a" mosquito fleet "" And I am about the same. Well, what to do? To kill yourself head on against the wall? We squeeze the maximum out of the minimum of our ship capabilities. Conclusions have been made, but the ships do not jump out of the snuffbox as loans (although the mistrals have been riveted), we are fighting as we have.
            1. +2
              16 July 2016 15: 11
              Quote: dr.star75
              fighting what is.

              Alas...
              1. +2
                16 July 2016 15: 32
                All the same, I hope that it won’t reach the boats .... laughing
        2. 0
          16 July 2016 13: 56
          Quote: Tusv
          I correctly your logic, what for the gun is necessary when there is a nuclear missile?

          I guess, yes! If you kill a fly, then kill. And for one and a house it is safe to destroy where this fly lives so that others do not settle.
          1. 0
            16 July 2016 14: 42
            Quote: Amurets
            If you kill a fly, so kill

            The couple forgot how to kill flies correctly. Newspaper or nuclear missile. It so happened that I have 2 black cats. I already forgot what a fly looks like
            1. +2
              16 July 2016 15: 23
              Quote: Tusv
              I already forgot what a fly looks like
              I remind you ...
  2. +5
    16 July 2016 12: 32
    Small but toothy.
    1. +1
      16 July 2016 13: 17
      Quote: cniza
      Small but toothy.

      but few teeth ...
      1. 0
        16 July 2016 13: 31
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        but few teeth

        Four mosquito shots? Minimum irreparable damage
        1. +1
          16 July 2016 13: 59
          for Tusv-mda .... let's estimate ... hostilities began, the boat is "empty", neither GAS nor air defense, nothing anti-submarine ... and the nearest "target" is further 120 km ... the result?
          1. +1
            16 July 2016 14: 51
            for Tusv-hmm .... let's estimate ... hostilities began, the boat is "empty", neither GAS nor air defense, nothing anti-submarine ... and the nearest "target" is further 120 km ... the result?

            The result is definitely a pleasure yacht laughing
            1. +2
              16 July 2016 15: 53
              Quote: Tusv
              for Tusv-hmm .... let's estimate ... hostilities began, the boat is "empty", neither GAS nor air defense, nothing anti-submarine ... and the nearest "target" is further 120 km ... the result?

              The result is definitely a pleasure yacht laughing

              the boat will benefit only as part of a squadron, undercover.
              1. 0
                16 July 2016 22: 07
                Quote: Andrey Yurievich
                the boat will benefit only as part of a squadron, undercover.

                Absolutely accurate remark
                1. 0
                  16 July 2016 23: 06
                  They ravaged the entire moquit fleet of Georgia from the same corvette and did not ask their names
        2. -1
          16 July 2016 14: 22
          Four mosquito shots? Minimum irreparable damage
          -------------------------------------------------- -
          If my memory serves me, then in the last incident of Egypt with Hebrew, not a single Arab mosquito hit the target — Jewish EW was on par.
          1. 0
            16 July 2016 14: 57
            Quote: guzik007
            If my memory serves me, then in the last incident of Egypt with Hebrew, not a single Arab mosquito hit the target — Jewish EW was on par.

            Duc their Knesset for a third of Russian speakers.
  3. +5
    16 July 2016 12: 35
    Fighting classic in action, nostalgic moment ... Seven feet under the keel, nimble kid. hi
    1. 0
      16 July 2016 12: 41
      Oberst, did you happen to be serving like?
      1. +2
        16 July 2016 12: 57
        Quote: Monarchist
        Did you happen to be serving like that?

        Alas, I am one of the "passengers" (KSF, MP), but in St. Petersburg (at parades), and in Kronstadt (at the wall), I have seen enough since childhood, and I had a chance to climb. EMNIP, for the DKBF they were built at the Sredne-Nevsky Shipyard. hi
  4. 0
    16 July 2016 12: 36
    There should be a rotation, and experience will be gained.
  5. +6
    16 July 2016 12: 40
    We survived, on missile boats we go to the Mediterranean sad

    Where is Grigorovich? Where is Essen?
    1. +1
      16 July 2016 12: 46
      Quote: Wiruz
      We survived, on missile boats we go to the Mediterranean sad

      Where is Grigorovich? Where is Essen?

      This tactic is now ....! We won’t collect an armada, but cunning boats and tankers, our trick!
      1. +1
        16 July 2016 12: 49
        This tactic is now ....! We won’t collect an armada, but cunning boats and tankers, our trick!

        Well, and how much they will live, these boats, in the case of a real naval battle. With a surface ship they can still somehow manage, but what will they do with a submarine?
        1. -1
          16 July 2016 13: 29
          Quote: Wiruz
          This tactic is now ....! We won’t collect an armada, but cunning boats and tankers, our trick!

          Well, and how much they will live, these boats, in the case of a real naval battle. With a surface ship they can still somehow manage, but what will they do with a submarine?

          Not for long, but ... And if there will be a lot of them (with missile weapons), then how? And they will be constantly supplied with submarines in the open ocean ... Serious boats will be!
        2. 0
          16 July 2016 14: 06
          Quote: Wiruz
          This tactic is now ....! We won’t collect an armada, but cunning boats and tankers, our trick!

          Well, and how much they will live, these boats, in the case of a real naval battle. With a surface ship they can still somehow manage, but what will they do with a submarine?

          "Uryak" do not care, the main thing THERE is "mosquitoes"!
          1. +1
            16 July 2016 15: 45
            Well, the submarine just won’t do anything with it, because even if it detects and shoots, the boat will dodge. And it’s not profitable for her to pursue such a small thing. Well, against surface ships there is clearly no chance. Although given their purpose: an analogue of torpedo boats from the time of the Second World War, the boats are normal. Their task: when large enemy forces appear around our bases, they will quickly advance, shoot back and return to base. No battle is planned.
        3. 0
          16 July 2016 15: 43
          We'll have to buy these Robocaters in addition.

          1. -1
            16 July 2016 16: 47
            Quote: Alex_Tug
            We'll have to buy these Robocaters in addition.

            and Israel will sell them to you?
            1. 0
              16 July 2016 17: 10
              The question is interesting. On the other hand - why they do not earn extra money. Israel is not a sea power; you do not use against them. Negotiate the lot of politicians.
              1. 0
                17 July 2016 11: 16
                Quote: Alex_Tug
                Israel is not a sea power; you do not use against them.

                And what is it on the map in the upper left? Is the sand so blue? smile
                1. +1
                  17 July 2016 17: 08
                  "not a maritime power" is in the context that Israel will not bother with submarines in the next 20 years for sure (except for fighting them), and not the presence of a coastline. Those. the sale of roboboats will only bring them money (we will skip political motives). And technology will go ahead when Israel wants to have a submarine fleet.
                  1. 0
                    18 July 2016 12: 29
                    Quote: Alex_Tug
                    . And technology will go ahead when Israel wants to have a submarine fleet.

                    Oh, wei! Israel still has 14 submarines! hi
                    Alex_Tug. Israel will not bother with submarines in the next 20 years for sure
                    smile
      2. -2
        16 July 2016 14: 05
        Quote: Chariton
        but tricky boats and tankers, our trick!

        well, yes, we also "can change the landshavt," why the enemy comes into full combat capability "(DMB)
    2. +3
      16 July 2016 12: 55
      Quote: Wiruz
      We survived, on missile boats we go to the Mediterranean

      Read it like that. The kings of rivers and skerries went to the open sea to buy fish and fish, and at the same time honor the Budapest operation, check out these shallow monsters
      1. +6
        16 July 2016 13: 16
        Quote: Tusv
        and at the same time read the Budapest operation, check out these shallow monsters

        And in Vienna, too, "gave jazz", one capture and defense of the bridge across the Danube is worth it, and there they poured the remnants of the Totenkopf division (they broke through to hand over the mattresses). Georgy Yumatov, People's Artist of the USSR, miraculously survived in that meat grinder. In general, the boatmen then were the same kamikaze. And by right one of the new streets of St. Petersburg is named Katernikov Street. hi
        1. 0
          16 July 2016 13: 41
          Quote: Paranoid50
          And in Vienna, too, "gave jazz"

          I say a serious military unit and very dangerous. Four missiles at the target and enjoy life on liferafts
          1. 0
            16 July 2016 16: 49
            Quote: Tusv
            Four missiles at target

            what next? Kingston open? cover and supply needed.
          2. +2
            17 July 2016 11: 29
            Quote: Tusv
            I say a serious military unit and very dangerous.

            smile
      2. 0
        16 July 2016 15: 02
        [quote = Tusv] [quote = Wiruz] We survived, on missile boats we go to Middle Sea [/ quote]
        Read it like that. The kings of rivers and skerries went to the open sea to buy fish and fish, and at the same time honor the Budapest operation, check out these shallow monsters [/ quote]
        Eeral, press from the stove:
        We survived, on missile boats in the Mediterranean go [/ quote]
        Read it like that. Kings of rivers and skerries went to the open sea to buyЬto catch fish and read Budapest at the same timeТoperation, check out these shallow monsters

        Sorry, could not resist. At school I have Russian language - 2 (again a deuce with a record for class, and maybe for school. And here I am also a king! Well, plumber. Well, you will come to me)
        1. -2
          16 July 2016 16: 52
          Quote: Mavrikiy

          a joke on your part, but if it is true, then your "deuce" is now equal to "five" ... inflation ... crying
          1. 0
            17 July 2016 13: 15
            Quote: Andrey Yurievich
            Quote: Mavrikiy

            a joke on your part, but if it is true, then your "deuce" is now equal to "five" ... inflation ... crying

            Alas. Such a five does not please me.
        2. 0
          16 July 2016 22: 15
          Quote: Mavrikiy
          Well, you still come to me

          I solve problems in two accounts, pay will come.
  6. -2
    16 July 2016 12: 46
    Yes ... ah! Several of these boats with "mosquitoes" and the American fleet will be stopped! recourse good
    1. 0
      16 July 2016 12: 52
      Sarcasm, huh? winked
  7. +4
    16 July 2016 12: 46
    Again, the usual demonstration of the flag, like a combat unit, at such a distance from the main forces and the base is practically ineffective. For the present, it has weak air defense for action on the high seas independently. This is called fishlessness and cancer. ships of the ocean zone. Of course, I am waiting for minuses from respected experts, but believe me, I know what I'm talking about. hi
    1. +1
      16 July 2016 13: 04
      Even + set. I think to cover Tartus. It is, under the guise of other air defense.
  8. -3
    16 July 2016 12: 48
    "R-334" "Ivanovets" according to Wiki. Why 954?
    1. +3
      16 July 2016 12: 50
      Call the MO, say that there is a mistake in the Navy. According to Wiki, R-334 should be laughing
    2. +6
      16 July 2016 16: 50
      R-334 Ivanovets - tactical number and name of the boat, practically for his whole life, 954 - on-board number, can change during the service.
      1. 0
        16 July 2016 17: 12
        Thank. It was a sinful thing to think it was something of a marine transponder.
  9. +4
    16 July 2016 12: 50
    Yes, he is not such a "kid"! Displacement under 500 tons. And the afterburner speed is very impressive. Normally it will look in Mediterranean. There now - calm, on the water - lafa. A resort, in a word. And the "teeth" of this boat are very sharp. Don't come near.
    1. 0
      16 July 2016 13: 53
      Agree Yes
      Destroyers during the Russo-Japanese War of 1904 had a displacement of 250-350 tons. And they went to the akiyan seas. And nothing ... And here a larger toy will be more powerful and more nautical. So the word "boat" shouldn't be confusing smile . Today, destroyers are approaching the first dreadnoughts by displacement request
      1. -2
        16 July 2016 16: 55
        Quote: Rurikovich
        The destroyers of the Russo-Japanese War of 1904 were a displacement of 250-350 tons. And they walked the Akiyan seas. And nothing...

        that is, weapons do not count ... do not care, the main displacement is more than in the Russian-Japanese ... people, who are you? generally "urya"? at all?
  10. -4
    16 July 2016 13: 03
    After the passage of this boat through the straits in Turkey, a coup d'etat occurred, and the Turks closed the Bosphorus, probably so that such Russian boats would no longer appear in the Mediterranean Sea. And the Americans will benefit from all of this, as always.
    Why not arrest Kerry for the crimes against humanity that he committed in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Turkey, Somalia, Nigeria, Ukraine and Europe, finally? Good reason, the lad himself came to Moscow.
    1. +1
      16 July 2016 16: 56
      Quote: 1536
      Why not arrest Kerry for crimes against humanity

      Eugene, you can't voice such stupid thoughts, even if you’re joking. You need to think about it with your head. The word has weight. Do you want an article about a conspiracy against Kerry to appear in the New York Times tomorrow? and new charges?
  11. +4
    16 July 2016 13: 09
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    Yes, he is not such a "kid"! Displacement under 500 tons. And the afterburner speed is very impressive. Normally it will look in Mediterranean. There now - calm, on the water - lafa. A resort, in a word. And the "teeth" of this boat are very sharp. Don't come near.

    Have you ever gone to sea yourself? And on such a ship? Resort say .... Something I do not remember the mood of the resort, not at home not with his comrades.
  12. +1
    16 July 2016 13: 29
    For a week now he has been cutting circles around their carrier, and he was only noticed ....
    1. -2
      16 July 2016 13: 34
      Quote: prior
      For a week now he has been cutting circles around their carrier, and he was only noticed ....

      Exactly ... Mal, yes daring.! And beneath it another vertically powerful little thing walks vertically ... Determine the noise ..!
      1. 0
        16 July 2016 14: 39
        Quote: Chariton
        Exactly ... Mal, yes daring.! And beneath it another vertically powerful little thing walks vertically ... Determine the noise ..!

        By the way: seaman! And tell me: DEPL under such a boat can hide? Well, if the depths allow, of course.
        1. +4
          16 July 2016 19: 42
          No, not enough cover (boat 500 t, boat 3000 t). In addition, the boat at the transition is on the order of 14 nodes, diesel-electric submarines under water with such a speed in an hour the battery will land, and it will rattle. Yes, and why? Bosphorus all the same, all boats pass individually in the water position. Then, in the Mediterranean, look for her, fistulas ...
  13. 0
    16 July 2016 14: 16
    Quote: Rurikovich
    Agree Yes
    Destroyers during the Russo-Japanese War of 1904 had a displacement of 250-350 tons. And they went to the akiyan seas. And nothing ... And here a larger toy will be more powerful and more nautical. So the word "boat" shouldn't be confusing smile . Today, destroyers are approaching the first dreadnoughts by displacement request


    And what is now 1904?
    1. +3
      16 July 2016 14: 36
      Quote: Photon
      And what is now 1904?

      Given for comparison! request
      Many sofa experts will hear "boat", that means that it will not sail beyond the visibility of the coast. And the "all the scammers", so they generally shout that everything is lost - we are already sending boats on long trips ...
      The ship needs to be judged by its performance characteristics, by its size, which suggest options for use (seaworthiness, cruising range, autonomy), and not by classification, which, in my opinion, has long been outdated and does not correspond to current realities. winked
      1. 0
        16 July 2016 16: 07
        "and not according to the classification, which, in my opinion, has long been outdated and does not correspond to the current realities. winked" - just until now nobody has canceled the mathematics. There is the sum of the numbers, the weight of the ship + the weight of the weapons + the weight of the fuel + (well, all sorts of garbage there) = displacement. And on the basis of this amount, the ship is judged.
        1. +4
          16 July 2016 16: 59
          In the tactical classification of a ship, its class is determined not only by its displacement, but also by its purpose, tactical and technical elements and the spectrum of the tasks to be solved.
        2. 0
          16 July 2016 18: 50
          Quote: dr.star75
          There is a sum of numbers, ship weight + weight of weapons + fuel weight + (well, all this garbage) = displacement. And on the basis of this amount they judge a ship.

          This is the essence of the comparison:
          The 1904 Squadron Dino-destroyer of 250 and the KATER launched XXI in 500 tons. Feel the difference! At the same time, according to the logic of things, it is assumed that the destroyer a priori has better seaworthiness than a boat, although it seems that the displacement indicates the oppositelol Judging by the classification what
          And the destroyer of the beginning of the XX century and the destroyer of the beginning of the XXI century are generally incomparable things. Against the background of 250 tons of "Falcon", 14500 tons of "Zamvolt" generally looks anecdotal Yes But that destroyer and another destroyer. This is about the miracles of classification.
          The same miracles are taking place with the Japanese aircraft carrier "Izumo" with its 25000 tons and 250 meters of length, which the Japanese persistently call the "Destroyer" !!! wassat This generally applies to which classification and what are the criteria for such a classification? what request
          Regarding displacement. This is generally an interesting thing, for the balance of characteristics embodied in a certain weight of the iron is always a relative and double-edged thing. You can shove a bunch of armor at 10000 tons (according to Kaptsov wassat ), but to get a coastal vessel, you can make a fast barge with a long navigation range, but a slightly armed barge, but in general you can do whatever you want. Just nothing perfect exists. You can make a super-duper ship, ALMOST perfect, but it will be big and scary expensive. Therefore, the displacement, armament and other technical characteristics of the ship determines the thickness of the state’s wallet and the presence of adequate brains in the leadership with admirals request
          hi
      2. +4
        16 July 2016 17: 04
        The tactical classification of the Navy ships is not some kind of constant dogma, changes are made to it if necessary, it takes into account not only the displacement, but also the TFE and the mission of the ship, which can change.
  14. +1
    16 July 2016 16: 36
    I am glad that Our small rocket ship "Serpukhov" .. and our Serpukhovichi who are on it .. will go home .. As they say, Seven feet under the keel ... to Base Zemlyachki, to Base ...
  15. 0
    16 July 2016 16: 57
    And "Ivanovets" is small, but daring!
  16. SAA
    0
    16 July 2016 19: 54
    For some reason they do not write that "Mosquito" can be fired on the shore and, on occasion, a nuclear warhead can be delivered. Although in these it is impossible because under the agreements it is impossible to have nuclear weapons on the Black Sea Fleet. But at the Pacific Fleet it is possible. A wonderful boat with excellent performance. Very good cabins and cockpits.
    1. +4
      16 July 2016 20: 28
      This is for some coastal target can you shoot the anti-ship Mosquito? Which guidance system?
  17. 0
    16 July 2016 22: 13
    And why do they have a stern in a dark color to clear up, the deck seems to be red, and the antenna caps are white. This is all unmasking.
  18. 0
    17 July 2016 07: 31
    well that noticed! it’s good that big, it’s bad that the boat (500 tons of displacement) didn’t send anything more? and the sailors have great respect, on such a boat you can go to sea at all, does he have any restrictions on the sailing area?
    1. 0
      17 July 2016 10: 00
      It's bad that there are a few or a little more of them, but a lot is needed. Not to boggle our heads with AUGs or "Loons", which will destroy the country faster than NATO, but to build a series of small and medium ships with missile defense and air defense.
      1. +4
        17 July 2016 15: 09
        Small ships with missile defense and massive air defense systems are not. At one time, even "Wasp" could not be placed on this RTO.
        1. 0
          17 July 2016 16: 37
          They could have been placed, but "The missile boat was supposed to be equipped with the Osa-M anti-aircraft missile system, but later, to ensure the required stability parameters within the given limits of the total displacement and a given 40-knot speed (the installation of the air defense missile system prevented its achievement), the decision was made by the air defense system do not install on ships of the project. "
          1. 0
            17 July 2016 21: 34
            You can, although, of course, on those boats that are more. Yes, missiles are not from the S-300. Now there is less.
    2. +4
      17 July 2016 15: 05
      On the 14-nodal course he has a cruising range of 1600 miles, enough to reach Syria (and that’s all, you need to refuel), but he is very limited in range at full speed - on 36 nodes only 450 miles. And the autonomy of 10 days.
  19. -3
    17 July 2016 09: 56
    Good car! Eight more vertical containers for anti-aircraft missiles. I think that you can embed, judging by the photo.
  20. 0
    18 July 2016 07: 37
    When I look at missile boats, the question always arises of reloading launchers. Only 4 shots, otvetka and to the bottom?
    1. +4
      18 July 2016 13: 57
      His task - he ran out to meet the NK group under the cover of aviation, shot all 4 KR, and fled to the base.

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