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Armenian sky with a Russian shade

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Armenian sky with a Russian shadeThe Armenian parliament ratified the treaty between its country and Russia on the creation of a unified air defense system. By this act, in support of which 102 votes were cast, but against only eight, Yerevan legalized an agreement on the creation of a unified regional air defense system in the Caucasus region, which was signed last December by the defense ministers of the two countries Seyran Ohanyan and Sergey Shoigu. The document is designed for five years with the possibility of renewal for the same period, if neither side wants to suspend it. What, as is customary in international relations, should be warned six months before the expiration of the contract. However, no one doubts that in 2021, the extension of this contract will pass almost automatically. It is very beneficial to Armenia. Why?

ONE air defense for two

National Armed Forces of the Republic have
significant amount of modern air defense


The head of the military department of Armenia Seyran Ohanyan told this in great detail to the Public Television of the Republic. “Within the framework of this agreement, we will be able to use, for example, Russian fourth-generation multi-role fighters, C-300 systems, and their anti-missile capabilities, for example, in implementing regional anti-aircraft tasks,” he said. “We will be able to use broad radar capabilities in aerial reconnaissance.”

Recall, on the territory of Armenia there is the 102-I Russian military base, which, in addition to tankmen, motorized riflemen and gunners, includes the 988-th anti-aircraft missile regiment armed with the C-300В anti-aircraft missile system and the corresponding radar stations for detecting an airborne target and tracking her, pointing missiles at her, as well as two or three squadrons of MiG-29 fighter jets, which, if necessary, will perform the role of interceptor of foreign aircraft and together with anti-aircraft gunners guaranteed to provide Armenia with clean ebo over its towns and villages, mountains and valleys. In addition, Armenia itself has fairly solid air defense systems, among which are Soviet-made anti-aircraft missile systems, such as the Neva C-125, with a target range of up to 20 km, and the Krug air defense system with a range of 50 km, as well as newer and more advanced systems, such as the C-300PS anti-aircraft missile systems with a range of 150 km and the Osa-AKM, Shilka, Strela-10 and Igla short-range systems. And at the disposal of the republic’s air defense forces, after its unification with the Russian air defense system, all the information received by the soldiers of the Southern Military District of Russia and the country's missile defense / air defense forces is received.

Almost all aircraft that are in the sky outside Armenia at a distance of 300 – 400 km will be on the screen of its locators. However, as well as on the screen of Armenian locators, too. There should be no surprises and surprises in its airspace. After all, the Armenian frontier is also, if it can be figuratively said, and the advanced trench of the entire missile / defense system of Russia and all countries of the Collective Security Treaty Organization. Where, besides the united air defense system of the Caucasus region (Armenia – Russia), there is also a unified air defense system of the Western region (Belarus – Russia) and a unified air defense system of the Central Asian region (Kazakhstan, Tajikistan, Kirgizia – Russia).

Retired Lieutenant-General Norat Ter-Grigoryants, formerly deputy chief of the General Staff of the USSR Ground Forces and one of the founders of the Armenian Armed Forces, stated that “the creation of a single CSTO air defense system is a strategic decision. At the same time, a single radar field is being created between Russia, Armenia, Belarus and other countries of the organization, which should shield the sky above us from the threat from the NATO countries, and especially Turkey. ” Lieutenant-General (Ret.) Alexander Luzan, former deputy commander of the air defense forces of the Russian Ground Forces, agrees with Ter-Grigoryants. In particular, he said that the creation of a unified air defense system of Armenia and Russia is of great importance for our countries. Including separately for Russia.

“Although we do not have a single airspace with Armenia,” the general noted, “Georgia is between us, nevertheless, the unified air defense system allows us to create the military field of the Aerospace Defense Means taken outside the country — the anti-aircraft missile system and air cover our border area. "

“Our outpost in Armenia (102-I military base),” says Alexander Luzan, “greatly weakens the capabilities of Turkey as a member of NATO and as the strongest armed state in this region. And we know from experience that Ankara can mess things up even without the consent of Brussels or against his wishes. And the unified air defense system of Russia and Armenia will be a serious warning to it. ”

WHO HAS KEYS FROM THE SKY

During the debates in the Armenian parliament, there were no questions about the need to ratify the agreement on a unified air defense system between Yerevan and Moscow. The deputies were worried about other problems: how this treaty will guarantee the safety of the airspace over Nagorno-Karabakh and who will decide on stopping the flight of other aircraft, if they suddenly invade the skies of Armenia (Moscow is far, and the decision must be made in a matter of minutes). On the first question, they agreed that it relates to the relationship between Armenia and Nagorno-Karabakh, which Yerevan has undertaken to defend. As for who will make the decision, if the sovereignty of Armenia is violated, then this, of course, is first of all its military leadership. The military post of the republic’s air defense systems, both anti-aircraft missile systems and radar stations, is occupied by Armenian military personnel, and they will follow the orders and instructions of their command, not the Russian one. And then everything will be decided by the situation: who, how and why was in the sky of the republic - by chance, deliberately, with what consequences. Will the air defense system of the Russian military base come into action or will they not have to do it?

Armenian ex-defense minister Vagarshak Harutyunyan, who strongly supported the agreement on a unified air defense system, said at a hearing in parliament: “Thanks to the Armenian-Russian relations, we were able to preserve, develop and bring the air defense system to such an extent that nor Azerbaijan, and in some respects, even Turkey. This agreement is based on our interests. It talks about the coordination of joint actions of the joint regional air defense system in the Caucasus region of collective security and the troops that are part of other regional air defense systems. ” Harutyunyan also believes the joint air defense system is a reliable defense against possible aggression from Turkey. The official position of Yerevan was voiced by the Minister of Defense Seyran Ohanyan: “The implementation of the agreement will strengthen the protection of the country's borders, as well as gain access to broader intelligence available in the general information field in terms of prevention and prevention of possible violations. In this regard, we have no more reliable partner than Russia. ”

Let us add from ourselves that in June last year, an agreement on military-technical cooperation was signed between Yerevan and Moscow, under which a loan in the amount of $ 200 million was allocated to Armenia for the purchase of Russian weapons. Including air defense equipment. And since Armenia is a member of the Collective Security Treaty Organization, it will receive all such equipment at preferential prices. In addition, as Lieutenant-General Luzan noted, the unified air defense system is the unified ideology of the use of air defense equipment, the unified development system of military equipment that guards our common airspace, the unified combat training systems and the improvement of professional qualities of military personnel, which means that It is also important, the strengthening of friendly relations between the allies and their peoples. Armenia is the only truly open and friendly country in Transcaucasia. And these allied relations need to be cherished.
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  1. Abbra
    Abbra 18 July 2016 09: 04
    0
    Good news! No wonder the GDP communicated with the presidents of Armenia and Azerbaijan.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 18 July 2016 09: 13
      +12
      What good is there?
      All Armenian state bodies management use NATO servers.
      NATO specialists and experts determine the development paths of the Armenian Armed Forces.
      The officers of the Armenian army are being retrained at NATO training centers.

      I hope this "one system" is just a political declaration. Otherwise, we will have big problems in the form of information leakage to "probable partners" through the Armenians.
      1. Abbra
        Abbra 18 July 2016 09: 23
        +2
        Everything is relative. I don’t think that agreements of this kind are written “out of the blue”. Perhaps we have something to fuck with this?
      2. starogil
        starogil 18 July 2016 09: 37
        +1
        I don’t see anything good either: Armenia is a breakthrough, a bottomless barrel, an unpredictable ally,
        which, with sticky creeping expansion, occupied the Stavropol and Krasnodar Territories,
        driving out from the economy the territories of Russians and other residents. DrYubba will come out sideways with this
        ally.
        1. Tatar 174
          Tatar 174 18 July 2016 09: 47
          +4
          Armenians in the years of the USSR were much more reliable partners in comparison with the same Georgians. I am writing this because I have experience from those times.
          1. HERMES
            HERMES 18 July 2016 14: 24
            +1
            It’s not necessary to drive a barrel on the Armenians ... there are golden people among these people (Baku Armenians as an example). But very few people live them in Armenia itself. In Armenia itself, unprecedented nationalism. Believe me ... as soon as glimpses of the fact that The West can become for Armenia a more reliable breadwinner and defender than Russia ... they immediately jump over to their side. They have always been on their minds ... they are absolutely not interested in Russia's interests until it becomes profitable for them.
            1. Talgat
              Talgat 18 July 2016 22: 54
              0
              I think now is not the best to pick and choose with the allies

              Look - 3, our republics of Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan are almost alone trying to mold the Eurasian Union (and in the conditions of fierce opposition from the West). And only Kyrgyzstan (t. To Kirghiz it is all the same steppe - although in the mountains) and now the Armenians join us

              I think that we should say thanks to the Armenians, no matter what.

              A general defense is a good and necessary thing. Personally, I am not at all against the fact that we have a common defense air defense with Russia. This is not only c-300 and supplies of Su-30, the expansion of the radar field of Russia to the south, etc.
              This means you will attack us and even if you can go through and crush our s-300 and Karaganda Mig-31 - but the aggressor’s problems will not end there - they will only begin
      3. Pitot
        Pitot 18 July 2016 09: 53
        0
        Well, I think these points are taken into account ....
      4. siberalt
        siberalt 18 July 2016 10: 16
        -2
        And where is Armenia bordering NATO, except in Azerbaijani Nakhichevan? Look at the map and see that Christian Armenia is completely surrounded by Muslims. And remember who and what faith killed her people in 1915 and who saved them from genocide. So, do not la la about Armenia with NATO.
        I am quite a Russian Siberian, and my profile picture belongs to the actor I respect from the USSR.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 18 July 2016 10: 59
          +1
          Quote: siberalt
          Look at the map and see that Christian Armenia is completely surrounded by Muslims.

          And I heard that Georgia is a Christian state ... Probably mistaken ...

          Quote: siberalt
          So, do not la la about Armenia with NATO.

          But these are facts. It is enough to type "Armenia NATO" in any news aggregator.

          Their Minister of Defense, having rolled into the NATO summit, is now hanging in Lithuania. Meanwhile, two weeks ago, the annual conference of experts on military education in the framework of Armenia-NATO cooperation ended. The American delegation was taken to the National Defense University of the Defense Ministry of Armenia
          1. razmik72
            razmik72 18 July 2016 12: 42
            0
            Armenian Defense Minister Ohanyan is a direct agent of Russia's influence and there is nothing to mold him into an agent of the "State Department". For the sake of his beloved Russia, he lied in the country's parliament that Russia, on a loan allocated by Armenia, was supplying all the weapons on time, which turned out to be a lie. Dear artillery expert, he is your agent, don’t worry so.
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 18 July 2016 13: 41
              -2
              Quote: razmik72
              Armenian Defense Minister Ohanyan is a direct agent of Russian influence and there is nothing to mold an agent out of him "

              What did Russia do wrong to you? I do not like Russia, you type dream of great Armenia.
              Listen to me and remember, as soon as Russia turns its back on Armenia, the next day Azerbaijan will roll out your Armenia with Karabakh. And such Natsiks. How do you, in tears, snot and urine, crawl to Russia and you will whine, help.
              So cover your mouth, you are a keyboard patriot.
              1. razmik72
                razmik72 18 July 2016 14: 12
                +1
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Quote: razmik72
                Armenian Defense Minister Ohanyan is a direct agent of Russian influence and there is nothing to mold an agent out of him "

                What did Russia do wrong to you? I do not like Russia, you type dream of great Armenia.
                Listen to me and remember, as soon as Russia turns its back on Armenia, the next day Azerbaijan will roll out your Armenia with Karabakh. And such Natsiks. How do you, in tears, snot and urine, crawl to Russia and you will whine, help.
                So cover your mouth, you are a keyboard patriot.

                Alexander, if things go the way they do now, then no help will save Armenia, it will disappear as a country and as a state. Russia will leave Armenia or remain, the result will be the same. The end of Armenia is near, people just don’t realize it, and I won’t feel sorry if the Turks slaughter the Armenians completely, they deserve it without doing anything, and enduring the power of the Karabakh clan.
                1. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 18 July 2016 14: 44
                  0
                  Quote: razmik72
                  lexander, if things go as they are now, then no help will save Armenia, it will disappear as a country and as a state

                  Well, yes, but what refugees will they rush to?
                  Quote: razmik72
                  Russia will leave Armenia or remain, the result will be the same. The end of Armenia is near

                  It is clear, -Advertising, selling rope and soap, inexpensive. Write in LS
                  Quote: razmik72
                  the Turks will cut it out completely, they deserve it, doing nothing, and enduring the power of the Karabakh clan.

                  From what year have you been seeing a doctor?
                  1. razmik72
                    razmik72 18 July 2016 14: 51
                    +1
                    I write in all seriousness, in solid memory and in my right mind. And so the old frame remains from Armenia, but it will collapse soon too.
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          2. xtur
            xtur 18 July 2016 13: 41
            +1
            > And I heard that Georgia is a Christian state ... Probably wrong ...

            in terms of pressure on the Armenian population, Georgia comes immediately after Azerbaijan and Turkey. For example, their church hierarch Ilya considers all Armenian churches in both Armenia and Georgia to be Georgian.
            1. razmik72
              razmik72 18 July 2016 14: 14
              0
              Htur, where are you writing from, can I get curious?
              1. xtur
                xtur 18 July 2016 20: 27
                0
                > Khtur, where are you writing from, can you be curious?

                From Yerevan, but at work I use tor
        2. HERMES
          HERMES 18 July 2016 14: 14
          +1
          Quote: siberalt
          And where is Armenia bordering NATO, except in Azerbaijani Nakhichevan?

          Since when did Azerbaijan become NATO? Maybe I didn’t understand correctly, then I'm sorry. hi
    2. Indian
      Indian 18 July 2016 09: 52
      -9
      Well, yes, and if something happens, both Belarus and Armenia will say that they are not in business. "Rashka" we have a superpower and let it loose itself.
      1. andj61
        andj61 18 July 2016 11: 33
        +2
        Quote: Native American
        Well, yes, and if something happens, both Belarus and Armenia will say that they are not in business. "Rashka" we have a superpower and let it loose itself.

        Russia’s good relations with Belarus and Armenia provide an opportunity, if something happens, to meet the aggressor away from its borders. This alone is worth a lot. In exchange, Russia gives a guarantee of security, as well as its market.
        And as a military potential and allies in the event of a global conflict, these countries are hardly seriously considered.
        1. razmik72
          razmik72 18 July 2016 12: 46
          -4
          Quote: andj61
          Quote: Native American
          Well, yes, and if something happens, both Belarus and Armenia will say that they are not in business. "Rashka" we have a superpower and let it loose itself.

          Russia’s good relations with Belarus and Armenia provide an opportunity, if something happens, to meet the aggressor away from its borders. This alone is worth a lot. In exchange, Russia gives a guarantee of security, as well as its market.
          And as a military potential and allies in the event of a global conflict, these countries are hardly seriously considered.

          Well, yes, you will meet a potential enemy far from Russia, and turn Armenia into ruins, dear ones. And what the Armenians get in return is a contemptuous spit in the face from Russian nationalists and comparisons with blacks. This is not my allegation, I often came across a forum this, if you want, give examples.
          1. Aleks76
            Aleks76 18 July 2016 13: 25
            +1
            And in the Armenian forums, they respect the Russians ???
            1. HERMES
              HERMES 18 July 2016 14: 16
              +1
              Quote: Alex76
              And in the Armenian forums, they respect the Russians ???

              Well, in this case, how will you stand out if you go down to that level?
          2. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 18 July 2016 13: 38
            0
            Quote: razmik72
            and turn Armenia into ruins

            Ramzik, and which countries have Russia turned into ruins? Generally historically.
            1. xtur
              xtur 18 July 2016 13: 46
              +1
              > Ramzik, and what countries has Russia turned into ruins? Generally, historically.

              Armenia
              True, it is the merits of the USSR. It was in the USSR that Armenian politics became extremely inadequate - I would be glad to someone who would be able to explain to me why it was necessary to surrender to Turkey all the territories abundantly watered with the blood of Russian soldiers.

              And I’m saying this is not ridiculous - I’m really interested in a possible explanation for such a policy, but I cannot find an explanation for this policy.
              1. razmik72
                razmik72 18 July 2016 13: 59
                0
                Quote: xtur
                > Ramzik, and what countries has Russia turned into ruins? Generally, historically.

                Armenia
                True, it is the merits of the USSR. It was in the USSR that Armenian politics became extremely inadequate - I would be glad to someone who would be able to explain to me why it was necessary to surrender to Turkey all the territories abundantly watered with the blood of Russian soldiers.

                And I’m saying this is not ridiculous - I’m really interested in a possible explanation for such a policy, but I cannot find an explanation for this policy.

                The territories were surrendered not by the Russian people, but by the Bolshevik Party, "respected" by me, led by V. I. Lenin, they did not care what the interests of the Armenian people, they did not care about the interests of the Russian people, they tried to make friends with the Kemalist Turkey, so that "ignite" the flame of the revolution in the Caucasus.
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        2. HERMES
          HERMES 18 July 2016 14: 15
          +2
          Quote: andj61
          Russia’s good relations with Belarus and Armenia provide an opportunity, if something happens, to meet the aggressor away from its borders.


          Ie Russia needs allies as a shield? Take the first blow, so to speak?
  2. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 18 July 2016 09: 24
    +2
    It will be bad for us and Armenia without each other. It’s good that everyone understands this. For us, this country is not only a friend, but also an invaluable partner. Therefore, any agreements and interactions are a great success.
    1. HERMES
      HERMES 18 July 2016 14: 17
      +2
      Quote: dchegrinec
      For us, this country is not only a friend, but also an invaluable partner

      Let me ask ... what pricelessness does Armenia stand out for Russia from Kazakhstan and Belarus?
  3. Krsk
    Krsk 18 July 2016 09: 41
    0
    well, I don’t think that agreements of this kind are written for "beautiful eyes" but the fact that the sky there will actually be ours is good
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 18 July 2016 10: 00
      +2
      And why do you think the Minister of Defense of Armenia rode at the recently ended unambiguously anti-Russian NATO summit? To receive permission for an agreement with Russia?
      1. razmik72
        razmik72 18 July 2016 12: 51
        0
        Shovels, it seems to me, we both agree that the Minister of Defense of Armenia should be changed - you claim that he is a NATO litter, but I affirm that he is Russian. In any case, he needs to be changed.
        1. razmik72
          razmik72 18 July 2016 13: 26
          +1
          Why are there such disadvantages, many dear gentlemen of the forum users, all the gentlemen from Russia freely express their thoughts, but to me, are the minuses?
          1. HERMES
            HERMES 18 July 2016 14: 18
            0
            Quote: razmik72
            Why are there such disadvantages, many dear gentlemen of the forum users, all the gentlemen from Russia freely express their thoughts, but to me, are the minuses?

            State Department ...
      2. xtur
        xtur 18 July 2016 13: 38
        +1
        > why did the Minister of Defense of Armenia skate to the recently ended unambiguously anti-Russian NATO summit?

        A lot of Armenians live in NATO countries, in particular in France and the USA. Armenia will have to maintain active relations with these states anyway. Although Armenia’s allied relations are formalized with only one country - that is, the Russian Federation has priority both in the economy and in security
  4. bardadym
    bardadym 18 July 2016 10: 10
    0
    Quote: starogil
    I don’t see anything good either: Armenia is a breakthrough, a bottomless barrel, an unpredictable ally,
    which, with sticky creeping expansion, occupied the Stavropol and Krasnodar Territories,
    driving out from the economy the territories of Russians and other residents. DrYubba will come out sideways with this
    ally.

    What's so bad? We need them, they need us. The normal basis for a contract.

    And as for expansion - so we called them ourselves, if that. The Armenians, while they got from the Crimea, lost a bunch of people. And since then, we have worked very hard for our common state.
    And now, after several hundred years of living together, accusing them of "creeping expansion" is, at least, indecent.
    1. starogil
      starogil 18 July 2016 10: 55
      +1
      It is indecent to throw Russian taxpayers' money down the drain.
      Armenia is not an enclave of Russia, but a sovereign state bordering on states
      not quite friendly to us and the Armenians, from whom they suffered, who knows
      maybe deservedly. It is indecent not to see the occupation of the most favorable by Armenians
      regions of Russia.
      1. bardadym
        bardadym 18 July 2016 11: 58
        +1
        Which wind? Organization of an air defense system on the border with the NATO bloc? Indeed, why do we need it, hi fly. How many are there from NATO bases in Turkey to the "most favorable regions of Russia" during the summer? Five minutes or less?

        An occupation? What are you talking about? I repeat: the Armenians did not suddenly descend from the mountains in order to trick you from taking a cow. They have been living in the south of Russia for several hundred years. This is their home, they were born here. And they settled here, too, not just like that, but at our invitation. In fact, it was the Armenians who became our outpost on the Don; their merits in the development of these lands are no less than those of the Russians. Actually, they have long been no less Russian than all the rest of our peoples.
        1. razmik72
          razmik72 18 July 2016 13: 01
          0
          Quote: bardadym
          Which wind? Organization of an air defense system on the border with the NATO bloc? Indeed, why do we need it, hi fly. How many are there from NATO bases in Turkey to the "most favorable regions of Russia" during the summer? Five minutes or less?

          An occupation? What are you talking about? I repeat: the Armenians did not suddenly descend from the mountains in order to trick you from taking a cow. They have been living in the south of Russia for several hundred years. This is their home, they were born here. And they settled here, too, not just like that, but at our invitation. In fact, it was the Armenians who became our outpost on the Don; their merits in the development of these lands are no less than those of the Russians. Actually, they have long been no less Russian than all the rest of our peoples.

          That's right, dear, unfortunately, the Armenians in Russia are no longer Armenians, and here they often ask a mocking question: "And if we kick them out?", To which I reasonably answer: "Yes, drive these Armenians to hell, I don't feel sorry for them." ... Many members of the forum think that I am not Armenian ... wassat .
          1. bardadym
            bardadym 18 July 2016 13: 22
            +2
            Quote: razmik72

            That's right, dear, unfortunately, the Armenians in Russia are no longer Armenians, and here they often ask a mocking question: "And if we kick them out?", To which I reasonably answer: "Yes, drive these Armenians to hell, I don't feel sorry for them." ... Many members of the forum think that I am not Armenian ... wassat .

            * shrug *
            You know, I am proud that people of thousands of nationalities live in my country. And I am even more proud that each of these people - from Chukchi to Chukhonts - can calmly and sincerely say "I am Russian!" And, remarkably, no one is trying to force the Chukchi to stop being Chukchi.
            Well, if you think that in order to remain an Armenian you need to kill all other nationalities within yourself ... well, God will judge you.
        2. starogil
          starogil 18 July 2016 16: 41
          +2
          Read here in Military Review:
          ARMENIA KISHES US MILITARY
      2. razmik72
        razmik72 18 July 2016 12: 54
        +2
        Quote: starogil
        It is indecent to throw Russian taxpayers' money down the drain.
        Armenia is not an enclave of Russia, but a sovereign state bordering on states
        not quite friendly to us and the Armenians, from whom they suffered, who knows
        maybe deservedly. It is indecent not to see the occupation of the most favorable by Armenians
        regions of Russia.

        I completely agree with you only on one thing - why once again offer these "ungrateful" Armenians something, Russia is already strong and can cope without Armenians, there is no need to throw money into the void, it is better to strengthen air defense in Russia.
    2. evge-malyshev
      evge-malyshev 18 July 2016 10: 55
      +2
      Quote: bardadym
      after several hundred years of living together, accusing them of "creeping expansion" is, at least, indecent.


      At one time he served with the Armenians from these regions (Krasnodar and Stavropol). Some were completely Russified, even the Armenian language did not know, but they knew the history of their "expansion" and were the same patriots of their land as the Kuban, Don and Terek Cossacks.
      1. razmik72
        razmik72 18 July 2016 13: 02
        0
        Quote: evge-malyshev
        Quote: bardadym
        after several hundred years of living together, accusing them of "creeping expansion" is, at least, indecent.


        At one time he served with the Armenians from these regions (Krasnodar and Stavropol). Some were completely Russified, even the Armenian language did not know, but they knew the history of their "expansion" and were the same patriots of their land as the Kuban, Don and Terek Cossacks.

        Exactly, there is nothing Armenian in the Armenians of Russia.
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        2. GMT-ZHEL
          GMT-ZHEL 18 July 2016 19: 49
          0
          And in which Armenians are more Armenian?
  5. Dimon19661
    Dimon19661 18 July 2016 10: 25
    +3
    As soon as Armenia changes its political course (the European Union, NATO), a hole will appear in our air defense system that will urgently need to be patched. In addition, I would like to know at whose expense this will be implemented. Again, Russia?
    1. apro
      apro 18 July 2016 10: 52
      +1
      So there is a hole, air defense forces except Armenia do not cover anything so why such an ally? Ensure their safety at the expense of Russia.
      1. razmik72
        razmik72 18 July 2016 13: 06
        0
        Quote: apro
        So there is a hole, air defense forces except Armenia do not cover anything so why such an ally? Ensure their safety at the expense of Russia.

        Exactly, Apro, why the Armenians have such an ally as Russia, I don’t know. While remaining nominally an “ally”, Russia sells weapons to the most vicious geopolitical enemy of Armenia, Azerbaijan, weapons worth tens of billions of evergreens. At the same time, it has not delivered a single cartridge to Armenia over the past 3 years.
        1. apro
          apro 18 July 2016 13: 32
          -2
          Quote: razmik72
          . Moreover, it has not delivered a single cartridge to Armenia over the past 3 years.

          Matches for children are not toys, they left you weapons and b / p zkvo still can not be fought.
          1. razmik72
            razmik72 18 July 2016 14: 03
            0
            Quote: apro
            Quote: razmik72
            . Moreover, it has not delivered a single cartridge to Armenia over the past 3 years.

            Matches for children are not toys, they left you weapons and b / p zkvo still can not be fought.

            Apro, we both came to the conclusion that Armenia and Russia, as they say, are not a couple. What are your suggestions?
            1. apro
              apro 18 July 2016 14: 11
              0
              razmik72 Well, why so officially? We are not one of those who make decisions of this level, we express our opinion, Russia should deal with the Russian world and Armenia should cost great Armenia from sea to sea, but at our own expense, there are no common ground between us and interests are different and other possibilities.
              1. razmik72
                razmik72 18 July 2016 14: 46
                0
                Quote: apro
                razmik72 Well, why so officially? We are not one of those who make decisions of this level, we express our opinion, Russia should deal with the Russian world and Armenia should cost great Armenia from sea to sea, but at our own expense, there are no common ground between us and interests are different and other possibilities.

                Apro, our political views completely coincide, I am glad that Armenia should not be built from sea to sea, this will lead to even greater confrontation with neighbors, it is necessary to build a normal rule of law, taking into account the interests of the Armenians themselves and their neighbors.
        2. Aleks76
          Aleks76 18 July 2016 19: 24
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          Explain then: why did the Azerbaijani Foreign Ministry convey a protest note to Russia in connection with the sale of weapons to Armenia? This was stated by the official representative of the Azerbaijani department Hikmet Hajiyev.
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 18 July 2016 11: 05
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      In fact, this is still more unpleasant than it seems ... I remember that the Israelis were already working on the issue of fighting the S-300, preparing for an attack on Iran. Using Greek complexes.

      Not only will we have to "patch holes" ourselves, the export of these systems will definitely sag.
      1. ovod84
        ovod84 18 July 2016 13: 51
        +1
        We gave the Armenians s300, and we have 400 with armor, beeches, tori, etc. Turkey is a NATO member, and the Georgians still want to become a NATO member. If they enter, then we completely control Georgia with the help of Armenia from both sides.
  6. faterdom
    faterdom 18 July 2016 21: 13
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    The correct tendency, the destroyed unified air defense system of the USSR must be restored, the wider its borders, the more effectively it will cover us. Well, Azerbaijan or, there, Turkey, are deprived of the opportunity to separately extinguish the air defense of Armenia - they immediately end up on the air defense of Russia, and this, in fact, will mean for them their favorite "no-fly zone."
    In general, ideally, the borders of our joint air defense should stand on the defense of the borders of the entire Eurasian continent, excluding one island in the North Sea.
    And the coast of the Arctic, and the Far East, and the Korean Peninsula, and the east coast of China, and Indochina, and Hindustan, and the Persian Gulf, and the Sinai Peninsula, and the Balkans-Apennines-Pyrenees, and Scandinavia - everything should be covered our joint air defense, and our aerospace forces from a brazen probable partner.
    Also, South and Central America will also be able to enter this system. Well, the sultry sky of Africa, we also can not give a shame.