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The centenary of naval aviation of the Russian Navy

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July 17, 2016 marks exactly 100 years since the pilots of the Russian imperial air fleet gained an important victory in aerial combat over the Baltic Sea. Then the four Baltic Fleet seaplanes designed by Dmitry Grigorovich entered the battle with the four German planes and emerged victorious.


The most famous Russian aircraft of the First World War are the flying boats M-9 - heavy seaplanes, the main function of which was bombing attacks on ground positions and enemy ships. M-9 had a declared mass of about 1 t, and the mass of often operated aircraft was significantly higher than the mass of those that had just entered service. Such strangeness was explained by the fact that the wooden structures of the aircraft during operation were swollen from prolonged contact with water. This was due to the need for a systematic replacement of individual parts of the M-9, weighted with dampness.

The M-9 operated two types of engines - an experimental version with Renault (power 220 hp) and the standard version Salmson (power 150 hp). For all history up to 500 M-9 were built, which served not only as part of the imperial fleet, but in Soviet Russia and the USSR. M-5 and M-9 aircraft became the first fleet of the Russian marine aviationwho celebrates her birthday today.

The centenary of naval aviation of the Russian Navy


What is the naval aviation of Russia a hundred years after the appearance of the first aircraft with the possibility of taking off from the water and landing on it? Naval aviation is a native of the Russian Navy, whose goals include the following:

search and destruction of the combat forces of the enemy’s fleet, its amphibious detachments, convoys and single ships (ships) at sea and at bases;
cover groups of ships and naval objects from enemy strikes from the air;
destruction of airplanes, helicopters and cruise missiles;
conducting aerial reconnaissance;
targeting the enemy’s shipboard forces of their attack forces and issuing target designation to them.

Naval aviation is actively involved in the setting of minefields at sea, electronic warfare, landing and search and rescue operations.

Naval aviation has both aircraft and helicopters for various purposes. Each of the types is designed to solve certain tasks, including the mentioned tasks of countering the forces of the enemy’s fleet, laying mines and dropping marines to given areas of the terrain.

If we talk about the functional division of naval aviation, here there is a naval missile-carrying, anti-submarine, reconnaissance, fighter and auxiliary. There are naval aviation aircraft tankers, transport workers, aircraft for sanitary purposes.

The only aircraft carrier that ensures the deployment of deck aircraft is the Admiral Kuznetsov. On board is an aviation deck group consisting of Su-33 and MiG-29-Cub aircraft (plus other modifications) and Ka-27 or Ka-29 helicopters.

Out a statement the press service of the Ministry of Defense on the development of modern naval aviation in Russia:
At the present stage, the development of naval aviation is in the direction of improving all types of aircraft, increasing their speed, range and duration of flight, and equipping them with highly precise, controlled aircraft. weapons, widespread introduction of electronic computing equipment, control systems and methods, automation tools for collecting, processing information and issuing target designation to hit any targets with high accuracy, create search tools and hit surface and underwater targets on new physical principles, increasing their invisibility and combat stability .


One of the most important stages in the development of naval aviation is mastering the skills of operating aircraft of carrier-based aircraft with the help of ground test training complexes (NITKA). One of such complexes is located on the territory of the Crimean peninsula. The newest complex for training pilots of carrier-based aviation was built in Yeisk. At the end of last year, the Yeysk NITKA passed the first tests, in which pilots of MiG-29K aircraft took part. Test take-off video posted on YouTube on the channel Comment Moscow:



Another option (author video Anastasia Zagrebelnaya):



Retrofitting of naval aviation in recent times is in full swing. So, in December 2015 of the year, naval aviation of the Pacific Fleet received the first transporter An-140-100. The second machine of the same type has expanded the composition of the Pacific Fleet recently. In addition, in 2015, the pilots of the naval aviation of the Pacific Fleet received the 4 of the Il-38Н after repairs and modernization activities. Upgraded versions of the IL-38 were able to detect air targets at a distance of up to 100 km and observe submarines in a radius of about 320 km.

Retrofitting of the fleet of naval aviation is carried out on other fleets of the Russian Navy. In particular, the Su-30CM multifunctional fighters replenish the composition of the naval aviation of the Black Sea Fleet, forming a new squadron.

On the day of the 100 anniversary of naval aviation of Russia, the Military Review congratulates all those involved in this remarkable holiday and wishes the naval aviation of Russia further development with simultaneous updating and replenishment of the flight fleet and weapon systems to ensure the security of the Russian Federation.
Photos used:
function.mil.ru/
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  1. Monos
    Monos 17 July 2016 00: 06
    +15
    Do not get tired to marvel at the skill of our pilots!
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 17 July 2016 05: 34
      +13
      the birth of the "deck". drinks
      1. Alex_Rarog
        Alex_Rarog 17 July 2016 06: 27
        +6
        Happy anniversary! Let takeoffs equal landings!
        1. dmi.pris
          dmi.pris 17 July 2016 08: 11
          +6
          It’s a wonderful article, it’s a pity that the author didn’t remember the first world of the Imperial Black Sea Fleet’s seaplane strike on the Turkish port.
      2. Baby doll
        Baby doll 17 July 2016 12: 16
        +3
        Oleg Spichka, Colonel, 1st Class Test Pilot, Head of Flight Testing Service, LITS of the Chkalov State Flight Testing Center. Unfortunately, the Hero of the Russian Federation (posthumously) died during the tests of the MiG-29KUB on June 23, 2011. He died along with the honored test pilot, Colonel, Hero of the Russian Federation (posthumous), the head of the GLITs FACE Alexander Kruzhalin ...
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 17 July 2016 14: 54
          +2
          Quote: Pupsen
          He died along with the honored test pilot, Colonel, Hero of the Russian Federation (posthumous), the head of the GLITs FACE Alexander Kruzhalin ...

          so for sure. Memory is alive. soldier
          1. Baby doll
            Baby doll 17 July 2016 18: 10
            +1
            Quote: Andrey Yurievich
            Memory is alive

            Their names are immortalized on the marble steles of the Icarus Wing memorial complex. And not only them, but all the "test pilots who did not return from the flight" who served in GLITs ...
    2. Pushkar77
      Pushkar77 17 July 2016 11: 55
      0
      I could be wrong, but Anatoly Kvochur seems to be running Sukhar. All those involved with the holiday. I hope for the early restoration of this very important component of our military aviation. drinks
  2. cahekmosa
    cahekmosa 17 July 2016 00: 22
    +15
    Today is 15 years since Timur died. God took the best fighter to him.
    1. Ducksar
      Ducksar 17 July 2016 18: 03
      +1
      I want to join, do not forget such a son of naval aviation as Apakidze Timur Avtandilovich. Bright memory! My favorite clip, the beginning is a little awkward, but very correct words are towards the end.
  3. Lyubopyatov
    Lyubopyatov 17 July 2016 01: 11
    +4
    The article is optimistic, it’s good and right. But I would like to urge the Ministry of Defense and the Supreme to ask more rigorously to ask for all the failures in the terms of the state defense order and to investigate more closely the reasons for the guilty not hiding behind the backs of the unrequited innocent. So far, the honored supporters and lobbyists of extraneous interests triumph.
    1. Bongo
      Bongo 17 July 2016 01: 39
      +12
      Quote: Lyubopyatov
      The article is optimistic, it’s good and right.

      It may be good, but is it right?
      This publication has a number of points that are not true:
      If we talk about the functional division of naval aviation, then here - marine missile, anti-submarine, reconnaissance, fighter and auxiliary.

      Now we don’t have a marine missile No.
      I dare to recall that in 2011, by the decision of the General Staff, in agreement with the "supreme commander" in Russia, the Naval Missile Aviation (MRA) was eliminated. As you know, the main task of the MRA regiments that were armed with Tu-22M3 missile carriers was the fight against American carrier groups. Until 2011, naval missile carriers were based in the European North and the Far East. All conditionally serviceable (prepared for a one-time ferry) aircraft of the Navy in 2011 were transferred to the Long-Range Aviation. The vehicles, which had minor malfunctions, but were unable to take off, were ruthlessly disposed of, which is undoubtedly a crime. First of all, this affected the naval Tu-22M3 at the Far Eastern airfields Vozdvizhenka near Ussuriysk and Kamenny Ruchey near Vanino. After that, American admirals, who traditionally feared our naval missile carriers, breathed a sigh of relief.
      With anti-submarine aviation, too, everything is quite sad. Approximately 20 Il-38 and 5-6 Tu-142 are in flight condition.
      1. Beefeater
        Beefeater 17 July 2016 11: 05
        -4
        It is not clear how the naval missile carrier differs from the usual "land" aviation. Only by acting in the interests of the fleet? Well, this is not critical. The range of modern aircraft allows us to "serve" the fleet far from our borders. Navigation is now all electronic, special maritime knowledge is not required
        1. Bongo
          Bongo 17 July 2016 11: 15
          +10
          Quote: Beefeater
          It is not clear how the naval missile carrier differs from the usual "land" aviation. Only by acting in the interests of the fleet? Well, this is not critical. The range of modern aircraft allows us to "serve" the fleet far from our borders. Navigation is now all electronic, special maritime knowledge is not required

          This can only be incomprehensible to a person far from aviation and from the armed forces in general.
          Combat aircraft is not only flights and navigation - it is also a weapon. But in naval aviation it is specific: mines, anti-submarine torpedoes, anti-ship missiles, deep bombs ... All this must be able to be used. And the flights themselves above the sea, especially at low altitudes, require special training. Take an interest in the current capabilities of the Tu-22М3 in YES to carry out tasks to combat AUG.
          1. Beefeater
            Beefeater 17 July 2016 14: 24
            0
            Quote: Bongo
            Quote: Beefeater
            It is not clear how the naval missile carrier differs from the usual "land" aviation. Only by acting in the interests of the fleet? Well, this is not critical. The range of modern aircraft allows us to "serve" the fleet far from our borders. Navigation is now all electronic, special maritime knowledge is not required

            This can only be incomprehensible to a person far from aviation and from the armed forces in general.
            Combat aircraft is not only flights and navigation - it is also a weapon. But in naval aviation it is specific: mines, anti-submarine torpedoes, anti-ship missiles, deep bombs ... All this must be able to be used. And the flights themselves above the sea, especially at low altitudes, require special training. Take an interest in the current capabilities of the Tu-22М3 in YES to carry out tasks to combat AUG.

            Yes, far from aviation and the armed forces you are right. So it was about missile carriers. There are no torpedoes and bombs.
          2. Andrey Yuryevich
            Andrey Yuryevich 17 July 2016 14: 58
            +1
            Quote: Bongo
            This can only be incomprehensible to a person far from aviation and from the armed forces in general.

            it’s just that a person doesn’t imagine flying above the earth and above the sea, two big differences, sometimes no horizon, no visual height ... to explain, it’s useless to spend time ...
            1. Beefeater
              Beefeater 17 July 2016 22: 18
              0
              Quote: Andrew Y.
              Quote: Bongo
              This can only be incomprehensible to a person far from aviation and from the armed forces in general.

              it’s just that a person doesn’t imagine flying above the earth and above the sea, two big differences, sometimes no horizon, no visual height ... to explain, it’s useless to spend time ...

              Well, my education is quite suitable. Explosive rocket. So I can open your eyes to many things. It’s easier to fly over the sea, it’s flat as a table, no mountains, no forests, no factory pipes .... Now cars without drivers drive along city streets full of transport, and even planes can fly even more so. With cars, the task will be more complicated than with an airplane.
      2. Monarchist
        Monarchist 18 July 2016 15: 04
        0
        Let's hope that now they will remember about anti-submarine aviation
    2. VALERIK_097
      VALERIK_097 17 July 2016 08: 17
      +2
      Lyubopyatov RU Today, 01:11 AM New
      You ask the workers who tear the veins in three shifts so that the ships go with us. And I wish you to kiss the sledgehammer and drink outboard water.
  4. s30461
    s30461 17 July 2016 02: 15
    +7
    Quote: Bongo
    Quote: Lyubopyatov
    The article is optimistic, it’s good and right.

    It may be good, but is it right?
    This publication has a number of points that are not true:
    If we talk about the functional division of naval aviation, then here - marine missile, anti-submarine, reconnaissance, fighter and auxiliary.

    Now we don’t have a marine missile No.
    I dare to recall that in 2011, by the decision of the General Staff, in agreement with the "supreme commander" in Russia, the Naval Missile Aviation (MRA) was eliminated. As you know, the main task of the MRA regiments that were armed with Tu-22M3 missile carriers was the fight against American carrier groups. Until 2011, naval missile carriers were based in the European North and the Far East. All conditionally serviceable (prepared for a one-time ferry) aircraft of the Navy in 2011 were transferred to the Long-Range Aviation. The vehicles, which had minor malfunctions, but were unable to take off, were ruthlessly disposed of, which is undoubtedly a crime. First of all, this affected the naval Tu-22M3 at the Far Eastern airfields Vozdvizhenka near Ussuriysk and Kamenny Ruchey near Vanino. After that, American admirals, who traditionally feared our naval missile carriers, breathed a sigh of relief.
    With anti-submarine aviation, too, everything is quite sad. Approximately 20 Il-38 and 5-6 Tu-142 are in flight condition.

    The worst: betrayal and crime. Two years working with the Moscow Region as a builder. And to be honest, the feeling is this: children play soldiers, organize competitions, biathlon (the case is undeniably good), and the strategic forces are slowly but surely being eliminated ... In general, to be honest, I can’t formulate my attitude to the Guarantor of the constitution for the last 5 years : while you watch TV, you are proud, but you should go on a business trip to the next military / military mission somewhere in the Saratov region or Pskov and there is nothing left for him to curse and curse! I sometimes wonder how patient our people are, and how unscrupulously the authorities exploit this. Recently, the barracks were repaired in Yeysk. There is practically no ceiling or floor in it - they have rotted. A shower and a washbasin are at the other end of the unit. The toilet is a pit with sewage. And in this state, they did not live for a year or two. What can I say ...
    1. Bongo
      Bongo 17 July 2016 02: 24
      +5
      Quote: s30461
      The worst: betrayal and crime.

      The worst thing is that often nobody bears responsibility for betrayal and crimes. am The higher the leader, the less demand from him. They will ask in full from the company captain, they will close their eyes to the "small pranks" of the regiment commander, so that the general should be put in his hand when he stole millions and did not share. For a thieving minister of defense, the most terrible punishment is "transfer to another job," and our supreme, as Caesar's wife, is beyond suspicion ... negative
  5. aszzz888
    aszzz888 17 July 2016 02: 39
    +3
    Happy anniversary of those involved! And for someone to celebrate the 500th anniversary! drinks
  6. evil partisan
    evil partisan 17 July 2016 04: 13
    +6
    On my own behalf, I want to congratulate with all my heart the Colleague-Daos- the former pilot Yak-38 and the beautiful Poet!
  7. orlan912
    orlan912 17 July 2016 05: 57
    +5
    Happy holiday! Happy anniversary!
  8. Masya masya
    Masya masya 17 July 2016 06: 38
    +7
    Happy Holidays! love
    By screws!!!
  9. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 17 July 2016 06: 39
    +2
    What to say?
    I am nobody compared to you.
    Two oceans ...
    It’s hard, but! It's so cool!
    I envy you guys. It’s the same as in space!
    1. Gray brother
      Gray brother 17 July 2016 07: 02
      +1
      Quote: pafegosoff
      I envy you guys. It’s the same as in space!

      In about 15 years they will be able to go into space.
  10. svp67
    svp67 17 July 2016 06: 55
    +2
    On the day of the 100th anniversary of the Russian naval aviation, Military Review congratulates everyone involved in this wonderful holiday and wishes the Russian naval aviation further development with the simultaneous updating and replenishment of the flight fleet and weapons systems to ensure the security of the Russian Federation
    I join in the congratulations and wish on my own that the number of take-offs equals the number of soft landings, especially for those who are now performing and will soon be performing tasks in a "region with a hot climate."
    And I would also like to remind you that there is no where but in naval aviation there are a lot of helicopters and people flying and serving them.
  11. Tanya
    Tanya 17 July 2016 06: 58
    +3
    Happy holiday to all who serve, as well as veterans of naval aviation of the Russian Navy! love
  12. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 17 July 2016 07: 03
    +5
    Hey Karimovich, and hold on to the pen? And ours, both of all the Russian media flying club lives. Today I went into the garden, and over my ear my native AS62 will convince. And the white domes of the newcomers ... so cool!
  13. Million
    Million 17 July 2016 07: 18
    +1
    Congratulations!
  14. parafoiler
    parafoiler 17 July 2016 07: 39
    +2
    Naval Aviation, with the jubilee 100th Holiday! With respect and wishes for 7 feet under the keel, great flying time and flight safety !!!
  15. family tree
    family tree 17 July 2016 07: 58
    +4
    Naval aviation is worse than radiation; you won’t erase words from a song. Congratulations to my son, the Stag beetles on Novaya Zemlya were also listed as being overseas, well, since I returned home in besk and vest. Happy Holidays, Heavenly drinks
  16. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 17 July 2016 08: 10
    +2
    Happy Anniversary, ASY, it is difficult to find another word, because "Master" is a stage passed for you. Health, Service Success and Soft Landings (if applicable).
  17. midshipman
    midshipman 17 July 2016 09: 20
    +6
    I congratulate you. I would like to separately congratulate S.A. Mikheev, who created the first helicopters for our first helicopter carriers. I was a member of the State Commission, which gave them a start in life. The tests were carried out in the Crimea. Then our aircraft carriers followed. VNIIRA (Leningrad) and NIIIT (Chelyabinsk) created the onboard and naval parts of the "Flight, navigation and landing approach" system for the Su and MiG aircraft. From the Ministry of Radio Industry of the USSR, 6SU, which was headed by me, was responsible for the creation of this system and complex for NIUTKA in Saki. At JSC VNIIRA, the creation of on-board equipment for naval aviation is provided by a talented scientist, Dr. Sc. V. I. Baburov in JSC "NIIIT" Breigen A.M. These specialists provide supplies for the export of marine equipment to other countries. Training complexes for naval aviation were created at VNIIRA by Doctor of Technical Sciences. Filin A.D.
    At present, there are already proposals for the development of flight control and approach systems based on the improvement of navigation, cognitive and information technologies. Congratulations, colleagues. I have the honor.
  18. atamankko
    atamankko 17 July 2016 09: 57
    +1
    Happy anniversary, colleagues.
  19. Evgeniy30
    Evgeniy30 17 July 2016 09: 59
    +2
    I wonder what a gifted head made an event 100 years ago a holiday of naval aviation? And where did this man see the naval aviation there? The aviation industry as such appeared only under Comrade Stalin, before that we had a frail production of a couple of glider factories with foreign engines and components. But hundreds of factories have already been built about the Soviet government, their engines have been developed, and the tradition of aircraft construction has been laid, which still goes on the backlog of the Soviet era .... Why do these holidays transfer to dates that, to say the least, are very doubtful as professional ??? ?
    1. Beefeater
      Beefeater 17 July 2016 11: 19
      -1
      Quote: Eugene30
      I wonder what a gifted head made an event 100 years ago a holiday of naval aviation? And where did this man see the naval aviation there? The aviation industry as such appeared only under Comrade Stalin, before that we had a frail production of a couple of glider factories with foreign engines and components. But hundreds of factories have already been built about the Soviet government, their engines have been developed, and the tradition of aircraft construction has been laid, which still goes on the backlog of the Soviet era .... Why do these holidays transfer to dates that, to say the least, are very doubtful as professional ??? ?

      Everything appeared for you under comrades Lenin and Stalin.
      Didn’t they accidentally come up with a toilet? Why build factories if they were, they just did not have to be destroyed. Putilov plant they did not build? No? Kirov probably. Or he just renamed in honor of himself. Maybe Leno built AMO. No, too, before him.
      At first, the above-mentioned persons destroyed everything to the ground and only then, having realized it, began to build their new world where who was nobody and no one remained. It just got worse. They bought everything to the last nail over the hill, destroying and robbing the village. For the world revolution, it was necessary to rivet tens of thousands of tanks and aircraft.
      Voroshilov himself asked the trade representatives abroad to bring simple clothes, socks, underpants to his children ... Builders ...
      1. Monarchist
        Monarchist 18 July 2016 15: 52
        0
        Sergeant, I express my gratitude to you that Eugene's son Ivan, who does not know kinship, was "stuck". But in general, such people can be understood: as a rule, they were poorly educated (then the Sharikovy, and not the Priobrazhenskys triumphed) work all their lives, and what if they were an instructor of the district committee or the chief leader-partog? He will then be like a parrot to tell the same thing! You will be an excellent officer!
    2. Monarchist
      Monarchist 18 July 2016 15: 37
      0
      Eugene, and then why are we proud of the centennial anniversary of submariners, after all, mass production of submarines began under Stalin. You probably have not read: "... four seaplanes of Balflot developed by Dmitry Grigorovich ...." Here you have naval aviation (Balflot) and seaplanes were controlled by Russian pilots. And if you are leading history only from the time of Stalin (I personally respect him) then ... Do not be offended, but these are just different rogues and librarians - ** Darasty do not like their history!
  20. Cosmonaut
    Cosmonaut 17 July 2016 10: 21
    +3
    Quote: Bongo
    Quote: Lyubopyatov
    The article is optimistic, it’s good and right.

    It may be good, but is it right?
    This publication has a number of points that are not true:
    If we talk about the functional division of naval aviation, then here - marine missile, anti-submarine, reconnaissance, fighter and auxiliary.

    Now we don’t have a marine missile No.
    I dare to recall that in 2011, by the decision of the General Staff, in agreement with the "supreme commander" in Russia, the Naval Missile Aviation (MRA) was eliminated. As you know, the main task of the MRA regiments that were armed with Tu-22M3 missile carriers was the fight against American carrier groups. Until 2011, naval missile carriers were based in the European North and the Far East. All conditionally serviceable (prepared for a one-time ferry) aircraft of the Navy in 2011 were transferred to the Long-Range Aviation. The vehicles, which had minor malfunctions, but were unable to take off, were ruthlessly disposed of, which is undoubtedly a crime. First of all, this affected the naval Tu-22M3 at the Far Eastern airfields Vozdvizhenka near Ussuriysk and Kamenny Ruchey near Vanino. After that, American admirals, who traditionally feared our naval missile carriers, breathed a sigh of relief.
    With anti-submarine aviation, too, everything is quite sad. Approximately 20 Il-38 and 5-6 Tu-142 are in flight condition.

    Oh, Mongohto, because once there the division was based! smile
    1. Bongo
      Bongo 17 July 2016 10: 39
      +2
      Quote: Cosmonaut
      Oh, Mongohto, because once there the division was based!

      The Tu-142 568-th separate mixed aviation regiment has now remained at the Kamenny Rucheed airfield. But they do not fly often.
  21. Cosmonaut
    Cosmonaut 17 July 2016 10: 34
    +1
    Happy anniversary ! smile
    I recommend to review, see! winked
    Boo drink, remember and tear the forest.
  22. Prince of Pensions
    Prince of Pensions 17 July 2016 11: 58
    0
    Quote: Andrew Y.
    the birth of the "deck". drinks

    Already goosebumps.
  23. Veteran
    Veteran 17 July 2016 16: 12
    +5
    Actually, the Day of Aviation of the Navy should be celebrated on July 4, not 17, in 1996 there was confusion when translating the date of the old calendar style to the new one. A successful aerial battle of seaplanes from the "Eagle" with the German ones took place on June 21, 2016 according to the old style, that is, on July 4, according to the new style. Someone counted the last date according to the old style. But for some reason the mistake is not corrected, besides, this is not the only case of an error in the translation of significant dates from the old style to the new one in the Yeltsin era.
  24. tacet
    tacet 17 July 2016 16: 18
    +1
    In my opinion, the date of "birth" of naval aviation is not entirely correct
    The first experience of using naval aviation took place on 24 in March on 1915, when the Black Sea squadron, which included the “Nikolai I” hydro-cruiser, made a march to the shores of Rumelia. Airplanes that had risen from the deck of an air-launch vehicle bombed enemy positions. And on May 3, Russian seaplanes raided the capital of the Ottoman Empire, Istanbul.
    1. Veteran
      Veteran 17 July 2016 16: 45
      +4
      The date setters tied it to the first successful group air battle, although two days before that pilot Petrov shot down the first German aircraft from the Eagle, and in a group battle on July 4, the second.
  25. dvg1959
    dvg1959 17 July 2016 20: 52
    +1
    I join in the congratulations of the Author.
    I sincerely wish all the military personnel and veterans of the Navy Aviation good health, long life, success in combat training and a bright sky above my head.
  26. Evgeniy30
    Evgeniy30 14 January 2017 00: 39
    0
    Quote: Monarchist
    Eugene, and then why are we proud of the centennial anniversary of submariners, after all, mass production of submarines began under Stalin. You probably have not read: "... four seaplanes of Balflot developed by Dmitry Grigorovich ...." Here you have naval aviation (Balflot) and seaplanes were controlled by Russian pilots. And if you are leading history only from the time of Stalin (I personally respect him) then ... Do not be offended, but these are just different rogues and librarians - ** Darasty do not like their history!

    Learn the story before writing something. What is naval aviation under the king? She was simply not there then.
  27. Evgeniy30
    Evgeniy30 14 January 2017 00: 40
    0
    Quote: Monarchist
    Sergeant, I express my gratitude to you that Eugene's son Ivan, who does not know kinship, was "stuck". But in general, such people can be understood: as a rule, they were poorly educated (then the Sharikovy, and not the Priobrazhenskys triumphed) work all their lives, and what if they were an instructor of the district committee or the chief leader-partog? He will then be like a parrot to tell the same thing! You will be an excellent officer!

    Look for lack of education in yourself. For naval aviation under the king was not in sight.