Suwalki. Kaliningrad. War?

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At the last NATO summit in Warsaw on 8-9 in July, the bloc members were going to discuss strengthening the eastern borders of the alliance, which include, inter alia, the geographical area under the provisional name Suwalki Corridor - a section of the Polish-Lithuanian border, approximately 65 km in length, stretching from Belarus to Kaliningrad. In the hypothetical scenarios of the military conflict between Russia and NATO, the alliance took the place of a kind of “West Berlin” to this corridor, that is, the most unprotected area in the event of an attack from the East, from Belarus.



For Russians, the question immediately arises why, according to experts of Brussels, the Russian Federation weapons to break through the land route to Kaliningrad, and even through the NATO countries, which will definitely lead to a major conflict? Of course, direct access to the exclave would not hurt, but not at the same price. At the moment, the Russian Federation enjoys the right of land transit to Kaliningrad, and can also deliver cargo by sea or by air through the Baltic, when such transit is difficult. Attacking Poland and Lithuania under normal conditions does not make sense to us.

Therefore, some unusual circumstances are implied. Which ones? Here we turn to the foreign press. For many years, long before the current aggravation of relations associated with Ukraine, she calls the Kaliningrad region a threat and stronghold of Russian militarism. Here it makes sense to recall that in similar formulations the February February 25 Control Council for Germany 1947 decided to liquidate the statehood of Prussia, part of which became part of the USSR. It is not difficult to guess what conclusions the public opinion of the NATO countries is pushing and what this means for us.



Kaliningrad and the Crimea, by virtue of their geographic location, allow Moscow to keep large areas of Europe under military control and, if necessary, to retaliate against them. Therefore, the ardent desire of the “partners” to deprive us of such important advantages is quite obvious. To deny from the Russian Federation the above-named regions is possible only by military means. If NATO takes advantage of a convenient situation and manages to seize Kaliningrad, then there will be no other options for Russia except to create the shortest land corridor with the goal of regaining its own territory. Just through the same Suwalki corridor. By the way, it is in Suwalki that, most likely, one of the American battalions will be deployed. In any case, Warsaw insists on such a configuration, and the Allies did not raise any particular objections.

It is clear that the Baltic countries will also be happy to take an active part in the land and sea part of the blockade of Kaliningrad. Lithuania has already restored the compulsory recruitment to the armed forces, which is understandable: there will be a lot of trained soldiers to curb the Russian offensive.

In the event of a critical aggravation of the situation, Russia will have to forget about the sea route in the Baltic Sea due to the fact that this transport artery will be controlled by a powerful fleet Germany. It became clear why Berlin put so much effort into creating an impressive naval force. Not to mention the existence of a fairly modern Danish fleet, despite the fact that Denmark is one of the most Russophobic EU countries.

Is the threat of such actions by NATO real? Obviously, yes. This scenario is supported not only by the warlike media background and regular NATO exercises in Poland, but also by the reaction of official Moscow. 20 June in Kaliningrad Svetlogorsk held a retreat meeting of the Security Council, after which the leadership of the country initiated a sudden sweep of the leadership of the Baltic Fleet. This also includes the urgent creation of an 11 Army Corps in the exclave in addition to the considerable forces that already exist. Hardly such a massive change is merely a precaution.

Not so long ago, the largest training exercises in many years were held in Poland, in which 31 was involved a thousand military, 3 thousands of ground equipment, 100 airplanes and helicopters, and 12 ships. The name of the teachings received very saying - "Anaconda".

In response, Russia conducted military exercises throughout the northwest, which continue to this day. Bye the ball is on our side. What will answer Brussels, we will know very soon.
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  1. +66
    July 16 2016
    The mess begins, the whole world is in ruins .. we will all burn up in an atomic fire. In a couple of billion years, cockroaches will sit on the VO and discuss whatever it is .. well, type .. ha- haha- you have the nickname Bormental - then you have a short mustache)))
    1. +21
      July 16 2016
      I really hope that everything remains only on paper and no conflicts will happen.
      1. +5
        July 16 2016
        As for trash and the like, everything is not yet clear. But the soil is clearly probed.
        1. +34
          July 16 2016
          Quote: Teberii
          As for trash and the like, everything is not yet clear. But the soil is clearly probed.

          ... there is nothing to probe ... the answer is obvious ... but, with regards to this writing, especially this one:
          Russia will have to forget about the Baltic Sea route, in the event of a critical exacerbation of the situation, due to the fact that this transport artery will be controlled by a powerful fleet of Germany. It became clear why Berlin had invested so much effort into creating impressive naval forces. Not to mention the existence of a fairly modern Danish fleet, despite the fact that Denmark is one of the most Russophobic EU countries.
          ... then the author would like to remind Russia that Russia has the Double Red Banner Baltic Fleet and coastal defense forces, so WE will control the Baltic with the help of the fleet and coastal anti-ship missile systems "Bal" and "Bastion" ... X-35 in the latter modification flies 280 km. ... a clear map ... hi ... such an impression, hysteria is especially escalating ... already the second nonsense for today ... wink
          1. 0
            July 16 2016
            Thanks to the author for the current article! Everything is stated clearly and clearly.
            1. +26
              July 16 2016
              Quote: Tatiana
              Thanks to the author for the current article! Everything is stated clearly and clearly.

              as a resident of KO did not see clarity and clarity
              1. +11
                July 16 2016
                as a resident of KO did not see clarity and clarity


                I agree. Full rubbish.
                1. +28
                  July 16 2016
                  An article is a collection of meaningless words. In peacetime, there will be no restrictions on communication with either the Kaliningrad region or the Crimea in principle.
                  And in the event of military conflicts - the prerogative of the General Staff and the High Command, and not graphomaniac journalists and bored pensioners.
                  1. +4
                    July 16 2016
                    Quote: Reserve officer
                    And in the event of military conflicts - the prerogative of the General Staff and the High Command,

                    And nothing to add.
                  2. -4
                    July 17 2016
                    And what do you attribute the blockade to? To peace or to war? For example, NATO countries may well declare the Baltic Sea a zone of their military interests and prohibit the passage of warships and military cargo in the water area. And then what, declare war on NATO?
                    1. +8
                      July 17 2016
                      You can not declare a blockade even if it is called something else (for example, quarantine), this is an act of war.
                      1. -7
                        July 17 2016
                        Today, a blockade has been declared in Crimea, and this already means the declaration of war in your opinion. Draw conclusions.
                      2. +2
                        July 17 2016
                        Perekom and Chongar are not the only routes to the Crimea, so no.
                        in this case, the blockade was called the fact that the blockade is not
                2. -4
                  July 17 2016
                  So far, I, who was born and living in Könick, see the threat exclusively from our officials - the governor, the mayor and other gangsters who were washed after the 90s, who settled down with their families on budget grandmothers, derban them together with Muscovites, and the people do not know where shout. The media is all under censorship, the Popular Front only on TV brings justice, you can call Putin (on the President's Direct Line). Fraud and poverty reigns, almost like a scoop. Salary is delayed, communal apartment is prohibitive, prices in the store too. whoever you talk to) does not believe that life in Koenig will ever get better.
                  And about the external threat ... We get along well with the Poles and the Lithuanians. Ordinary people don't care about politics.
                  And if something happened, our bureaucrats, I think, would gladly surrender the area to NATO-vtsam, and they would crawl away to where the loot had been hidden for a long time. And they do not care. And Moscow, it seems, too.
                  Something like that.
                  1. +1
                    July 17 2016
                    Quote: Sambia
                    in Könick,

                    do not you disgust Grad call this word?
                    1. +2
                      July 17 2016
                      And how EKaterinis the local name Burg?
                      1. +1
                        July 17 2016
                        Depending on the degree of their culture, usually they have a high one.
                      2. +2
                        July 19 2016
                        ECB like or Yöburg ... wassat our name is his. I personally prefer the full name
                      3. +2
                        July 19 2016
                        For all the time the locals called me E-burg only once with me, and deushka had clear signs of degeneration on the Lits.
                    2. -7
                      July 17 2016
                      do not you disgust Grad call this word?

                      Local all so call their hometown, short for Königsberg. I was born here, this is my homeland, as I got used to, I call it that. Calling in honor of the goat Kalinin is disgusting!
                      1. +7
                        July 17 2016
                        It is disgusting to call an enemy name a city abundantly watered with Russian blood.

                        I don't like viburnum, just try "Grad", maybe I will like it ... Or the old Slavic name Krolevets

                        start to put things in order with yourself ... otherwise you live the life you deserve, while without "ovens" ...
                      2. +2
                        July 17 2016
                        You need to know history. Königsberg is the name from the Prussian Kunnegsgarbs (royal mountain), that is, in the language of the indigenous people of this land, and the Prussians are not even Germans, much less fascists.
                        The history of the city is woeful. When the Nazis were draping from here, they didn’t evacuate civilians (think you were all fascists here?), Because after the war our parents survived in ruins along with the surviving Germans - cripples, orphans, and psychiatric patients. When in 1947 the Germans were allowed to leave for Germany, there was almost no one left, they died, the workers didn’t have cards.
                        History is not agnitprop, it is much deeper, wider and wiser))
                      3. +3
                        July 17 2016
                        Koenigsberg is a royal mountain in German, you need to know the language. Prussians - completely destroyed during the crusades by the Germans, the Baltic Slavs.
                        It’s not necessary to drive about the Germans’s extinction here, at least 4,5 million people would be hungry in the western zone of occupation.
                      4. -1
                        July 18 2016
                        Koenigsberg is a royal mountain in German, you need to know the language.

                        read carefully the comment above -
                        Konigsberg title from the Prussian Kunnegsgarbs (royal mountain)

                        the Prussians became extinct ... So what? They became enemies, since you think the old name of the city is ENEMY?
                        Obscurantism.
                        And Kravets is the name of the Royal Castle, and not the city, and Polish.
                        Not the enemy, not?
                        And then, what kind of way to go into the wilds? Essentially nothing to say?
                        Do you think that NATO harms us more than our embezzlers?
                        Or maybe sanctions make people poorer?
                        Nu-nu))
                      5. +1
                        July 18 2016
                        The Prussians were carved by the Germans, to the last. Koenigsberg is in German, in the language of those who shot our soldiers there.

                        This is essentially a worse condition when you have to explain it and do not understand.
                      6. 0
                        July 18 2016
                        History really needs to be known. Firstly, not all of the Prussians were slaughtered, many were assimilated, and secondly, the history of the city totals 761 years, of which the Nazis accounted for only 13 years. That, now cross out everything, all the famous names, including Russians, associated with Konigsberg and the fact that after a seven-year war the city under this name was part of the Russian Empire. Leader, took this kvass pseudo-patriotism.
                      7. 0
                        July 18 2016
                        One by one, and according to the papal bull ... Another.
                      8. 0
                        July 18 2016
                        One by one, and according to the papal bull ... Another.
                      9. +2
                        July 18 2016
                        Sorry, but at that time the whole country was in ruins west of the Volga! and everyone lived on the cards! do not distort the story!
                      10. -6
                        July 17 2016
                        I do not like viburnum
                        Name your dog by the name of Comrade Kalinin. If you would travel across Russia.
                      11. +1
                        July 17 2016
                        Quote: Anglorussian
                        Name your dog in the name of Comrade Kalinin.

                        oh, flowed ...
                      12. +4
                        July 17 2016
                        start to put things in order with yourself ... otherwise you live the life you deserve, while without "ovens" ...

                        something ignored this speech))
                        if the conversation was about the cleanliness of the yards, for example, is another matter!
                        but here it is - about the global. About enemies! Of course, I agree, Kaliningrad was surrounded by enemies, but "their" embezzlers are no better. The people believe in Putin, but they hate them. And it does not fit in their heads - Putin seems to be with them, but apparently not? Either they are at the same time, or ... Complete cognitive dissonance! This, you know, undermining the fighting efficiency of the population, disorienting the people in space))
                      13. +1
                        July 17 2016
                        matches next to the stove are not a toy for children
                      14. +1
                        July 17 2016
                        I don’t like the cleanliness of the yard, take a broom and sweep it, or hire someone yourself, and fire the scammers from the housing and communal services ...
                      15. +1
                        July 18 2016
                        virtually everything - advisers and reformers, but in real life - living on the network
                        hamsters that do not go out for years.
                        You still say that the people themselves are to blame for all their troubles.
                        And he is also a chapel ... (C)
                      16. -2
                        July 18 2016
                        OK sit in the dirty and carry them your money ...
                      17. 0
                        July 18 2016
                        OK sit in the dirty and carry them your money ...
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                  2. +1
                    July 18 2016
                    write on Ridnoy mov, "normal people".
                  3. 0
                    July 19 2016
                    This is sambia achedzhaknula, my friend moved to Kaliningrad, happy as an elephant - prices are much lower than in Primorye. And the people there are optimistic.
                    PS Isn’t it time to introduce a ban for achedzhakane?
                  4. 0
                    July 19 2016
                    This is sambia achedzhaknula, my friend moved to Kaliningrad, happy as an elephant - prices are much lower than in Primorye. And the people there are optimistic.
                    PS Isn’t it time to introduce a ban for achedzhakane?
              2. +2
                July 16 2016
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                clarity and clarity not seen

                What can’t you see here? Katz offers to give up!
                1. +1
                  July 17 2016
                  Quote: nesvobodnye
                  Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                  clarity and clarity not seen

                  What can’t you see here? Katz offers to give up!

                  The Russians do not give up Comrade Katz. soldier
            2. +9
              July 17 2016
              Set out clearly, understandably and quite defeatistically. The Germans have a strong fleet, but the spirit is still burgher for a long time: I don't want to die for ΝΑΤΟ. In addition, an attempt to take away the Kaliningrad region from us is tantamount to an invitation to the Germans to take away the southern half of East Prussia from the Poles. It is necessary for our sluggish Foreign Ministry to intensify its work with Germany (not only with the Merkel party, but also with the left opposition) - to agree on the future of cutting off the future Poland (if it survives at all after the war in the Baltic States) from the Baltic Sea: returning the Danzig Corridor to the Germans, and Russia - the Suwalki-Shchitno-Malbork stripes. And now to warn the United States that their aggression in the Baltic will launch our immediate nuclear response across the United States.
          2. -35
            July 16 2016
            To begin with, it would be necessary to teach a soldier to use normally a standard weapon.
            1. +16
              July 16 2016
              Quote: Khakas19
              To begin with, it would be necessary to teach a soldier to use normally a standard weapon.

              winked Whose soldier, do not specify? Yes, and yet, you can use a weapon instead of a crowbar, a shovel, a paddle for canoeing, etc., but to possess the skills to use it and use it effectively when using a weapon is a completely different matter. Success in the study of materiel soldier !
            2. +12
              July 16 2016
              Quote: Khakas19
              To begin with, it would be necessary to teach a soldier to use normally a standard weapon.

              Damn, dear, I'm in shock ... it turns out that the soldiers do not know how to use regular weapons? belay request Question colleague. Whose soldiers? What is NATO, that we are trained and will show everything. So where are the stupid? belay
            3. +2
              July 16 2016
              Quote: Khakas19
              To begin with, it would be necessary to teach a soldier to use normally a standard weapon.

              You judge, obviously, by yourself? What you have not been taught is undoubtedly sad, but not critical and not catastrophic - they can do it without you!))) Perhaps, it’s even better ...
          3. +2
            July 17 2016
            Quote: Inok10
            with the help of the fleet and coastal anti-ship missile systems "Bal" and "Bastion"
            So far they have not come to you from Poland (Lithuania) and have not thrown off a ball with a bastion at sea.
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        3. +2
          July 16 2016
          trained soldiers to contain the Russian offensive will require a lot.

          mdyayaya, the Baltic states are still warriors ....
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        5. WKS
          +22
          July 16 2016
          Amazing NATO plans. I can imagine how tomorrow NATO begins the invasion of the Kaliningrad region, and the GDP gives the command to convene the UN Security Council !!!, or break a corridor by land into the enclave !!!
          Most likely, another option, in response to the invasion, will be nuclear weapons, and not in the ashes of the invasion, where they are likely to manage on their own. But at the NATO headquarters, command posts, concentration of troops and navy in Europe and the United States, they will play according to the full program. Nobody remembers any Suwalki.
          1. +2
            July 16 2016
            Quote: wks
            Amazing NATO plans. I can imagine how tomorrow NATO begins the invasion of the Kaliningrad region, and the GDP gives the command to convene the UN Security Council !!!, or break a corridor by land into the enclave !!!
            Most likely, another option, in response to the invasion, will be nuclear weapons, and not in the ashes of the invasion, where they are likely to manage on their own. But at the NATO headquarters, command posts, concentration of troops and navy in Europe and the United States, they will play according to the full program. Nobody remembers any Suwalki.

            NATO Euro-soldiers are trying to play strategically important games and trying to put themselves in our position ... Only their thinking is straightforward: the shortest path between the two points is the direct connecting them ... Yes, if they manage to provoke a military conflict, then they will a lot of unpleasant surprises and disappointments!))))
          2. 0
            July 17 2016
            Nor will they recall some Baltic allies as NATO members. Their elimination will take not hours, but minutes.
      2. +8
        July 16 2016
        Quote: cniza
        I really hope that everything remains only on paper and no conflicts will happen.

        And it all started with the corrupt union of Germany ...
        1. +5
          July 16 2016
          And it seems to me from the betrayal of Gorbachev and Yeltsin and the hedgehog with them.
          1. 0
            July 17 2016
            And it seems to me - from the Burry Pahan am , who invented the "right of nations to self-determination up to secession2 - without this from EBN am and his accomplices am there would be no chance!
          2. -1
            July 17 2016
            And it seems to me - from the Burry Pahan am , who invented the "right of nations to self-determination up to secession2 - without this from EBN am and his accomplices am there would be no chance!
        2. +1
          July 17 2016
          Here I agree and continued in Pushcha, when they gathered and "figured out for three"
      3. +14
        July 16 2016
        Suwalki is a funny name.
        If something starts, then not only along the Suwalki, but along the Morgalki and the Sniffer NATO will scoop up in full.))))
        1. +4
          July 16 2016
          Suwalki is a funny name.
          If something starts, then not only along the Suwalki, but along the Morgalki and the Sniffer NATO will scoop up in full.))))


          good and then you can pull the Blinkers on Suwalki winked
        2. +3
          July 17 2016
          Suwalki is a Russian name. Like Lublin, Przemysl ... Even the "German" Schwerin was founded by the Russians as Zverin. And the name of the island of Rügen is a Russian root with a German ending.
          1. +3
            July 17 2016
            Suwalki is a Russian name. Like Lublin, Przemysl ... Even the "German" Schwerin was founded by the Russians as Zverin. And the name of the island of Rügen is a Russian root with a German ending.

            potential aggressors do not even need to study the history of wars with Russia, just look at a map of Russia and read the names - the Russian language is not only powerful, but also very meaningful and accurate. Then I remembered once again about the feat of our soldier -

            July 13, 1941 in battles in the area of ​​the city of Balti, with the delivery of ammunition to his company near the town Arctic fox the machine-gun company of the 389th Infantry Regiment of the 176th Infantry Division of the 9th Army of the Southern Front, Red Army soldier Dmitry Ovcharenko was surrounded by a detachment of 50 enemy soldiers and officers. At the same time, the enemy managed to seize his rifle. However, D.R.Ovcharenko was not at a loss and, grabbing an ax from the wagon, chopped off the head of the officer questioning him, threw 3 grenades at the enemy soldier, killing 21 soldiers. The rest fled in panic. Then he caught up with the second officer and also chopped off his head. The third officer managed to escape. After that he collected documents and maps from the dead and, together with the cargo, arrived at the company on time.


            If the Germans knew about a different meaning of the name of the animal, maybe they would have bypassed it ...
          2. 0
            July 17 2016
            Quote: Lyubopyatov
            Suwalki is the Russian name.

            So we are talking about the fact that if the scent is lost, then everything will be purely in Russian! Yes
        3. 0
          July 17 2016
          Quote: hirurg
          Suwalki is a funny name.
          If something starts, then not only along the Suwalki, but along the Morgalki and the Sniffer NATO will scoop up in full.))))

          If only the Sly One does not drain the Belarusian swamps, it will be "Bagration-2".
      4. +5
        July 16 2016
        Quote: cniza
        I really hope that everything remains only on paper and no conflicts will happen.

        Quote: Author Sergey Zbitnev
        For Russians, the question immediately arises, why, according to experts from Brussels, the Russian Federation by force of arms punch the land route to Kaliningrad, and even through NATO countries, which will definitely lead to a major conflict? Of course, direct access to the exclave would not hurt, but not at the same price.


        I don’t know who the author is by profession, but he mixed everything in a heap ...

        In the event of a conflict, our enclave in the form of the Kaliningrad region really appears as an isolated piece of territory that the enemy will try to surround, isolate, defeat and capture.
        BUT!
        According to all international standards, if someone is trying to isolate, cut off the ways of supplying the enclaves in one way or another in peacetime, this is called hostile action and humanitarian crime, and the metropolis may have the right to use force to unblock, cut through corridors.
        Yes, this is war! But fair from the metropolis.
        And all metropolises have such plans by default.
        Knowing this, NATO is trying to strengthen in advance the shortest paths of a possible "breaking through the corridor." And as usual, he makes a mistake in advance, knowing his wrongness and historical practice. And the ignorant authors support them ...
        1. +1
          July 17 2016
          Enclave
          [edit | edit wiki text] Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
          There are other meanings to this term, see Enclave (s).

          C is an exclave of country B in country A, surrounded by the territory of country A. He is also an enclave of country A.
          Enclave (French enclave from lat. Inclavatus - “closed, locked”) - part of the territory of the state, completely surrounded by the territory of another state. Parts of the state, completely surrounded by another (one) country, are called full enclaves. The concept of territory includes both land territory and territorial waters [1].

          The term “enclave” is applied to states only if they are completely surrounded by another (one) country and have no access to the sea. In this case, the concept of “exclave” does not apply at all. There are three such states: the Vatican and San Marino inside Italy, Lesotho inside South Africa. The Maltese Order, which owns an enclave within Italy, also has a number of signs of statehood.

          Semi-Enclave - part of the state, surrounded by the territory of another state on land, but with access to the sea. Enclaves of this type are also called coastal enclaves [2]. Examples of semi-enclave states are Brunei, which is surrounded by Malaysia and the South China Sea, as well as Portugal, surrounded by Spain and the Atlantic Ocean. The semi-enclave is also part of Fort Sant'Angelo in Malta, belonging to the Order of Malta. In states whose main territory is outside the semi-enclave, the territory of the semi-enclave is called half-enclave. Such a semi-enclave (semi-exclave) can be surrounded by the sea and several other countries. In everyday speech, semi-enclaves and semi-exclaves can simply be called enclaves and exclaves [3].

          Contents [remove]
          1 Enclaves and exclaves
          2 Enclave states
          3 Enclave territories
          4 See also
          5 Notes
          6 References
        2. 0
          July 17 2016
          If you believe the author, NATO does not take into account the fact that the shortest route is far from always the fastest.
      5. 0
        July 17 2016
        What is happening in Europe will continue to continue, the IGL in France will not stop and the only way out for Europeans is to call Russia into allies and not fight with it.
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    3. +8
      July 16 2016
      "If NATO take advantage of a comfortable situation and will be able to master Kaliningrad, then for the Russian Federation there will be no other options, except for the creation of the shortest land corridor in order to return its own territory. "- why do we need a corridor to Kaliningrad - if NATO has already burned up in the fire of nuclear weapons (and we will already have fun request ).
      The stubborn word comes in handy for people who seriously discuss - what piece they chop off from the Nuclear Power .....
      They still don’t suspect that in the case of why we will agree with China about a couple of hundreds of millions of Chinese refugees to Europe (we will transport it for free). They will quickly squeeze them out of Europe (in bulk !!!) into the Atlantic Ocean. Reality? It’s quite Europe put a million a year in all poses at once ..... Yes, and China - I think it’s not particularly against (the main thing is that we don’t settled feel)

      Pah-pah, so as not to jinx it, I’ll dream of this: NATO in Kaliningrad, some kind of corridors ....
      1. +11
        July 16 2016
        Apparently someone wants to share with us the extra territory.
        1. +1
          July 17 2016
          Quote: berezin1987
          Apparently someone wants to share with us the extra territory.

          The same chatter is in relation to Russian-Chinese relations. A week ago, a similar stuffing was about that. that the PRC is going to conquer the Far East. Khariton has already salted, calling the inhabitants of the Far East separatists and whiteguards.
        2. 0
          July 17 2016
          Quote: berezin1987
          Apparently someone wants to share with us the extra territory.

          Vitus Jonassen Bering (1681 - 1741) - navigator, officer of the Russian fleet, captain-commander. By origin Danes. In 1725 - 1730 and 1733 - 1741 led the First and Second Kamchatka expeditions. He walked along the strait between Chukotka and Alaska, reached North America and discovered a number of islands of the Aleutian ridge. Bialystok has been moaning for how many years. According to the Third Section of the Commonwealth (1795) in the Tilsit Peace (1807) it was transferred to Napoleon of the Russian Empire,
    4. RDX
      +15
      July 16 2016
      The situation is similar to the one before the Great Patriotic War, the rearmament of the USSR was also carried out, the country also experienced shocks (revolution), the same game of the Poles, the same game of the USA. The civil war in Spain is similar to the war in the Donbass, but there are many different parallel that can be drawn with the present.
      1. +2
        July 16 2016
        Quote: RDX
        The situation is similar to the one before the Great Patriotic War, the rearmament of the USSR was also carried out, the country also experienced shocks (revolution), the same game of the Poles, the same game of the USA. The civil war in Spain is similar to the war in the Donbass, but there are many different parallel that can be drawn with the present.

        - But then it was a tragedy, a terrible tragedy ...
        And the current situation is a farce and ends in a farce.
        1. 0
          July 16 2016
          Smirnov again plays with signs and numbers of comments am
      2. 0
        July 16 2016
        We could also add that the Baltic Fleet was beheaded ... We are already different, taught ... well, plus we also have nuclear weapons and we are ready to work for them (if what) ... and, by the way, yes - they are also completely others have become, they are now tolerant.
    5. 0
      July 16 2016
      Only for some reason, the cockroaches themselves have gone somewhere. Arnoldovich, probably prepared for the atomic war ..
      Quote: Dr. Bormental
      The mess begins, the whole world is in ruins .. we will all burn up in an atomic fire. In a couple of billion years, cockroaches will sit on the VO and discuss whatever it is .. well, type .. ha- haha- you have the nickname Bormental - then you have a short mustache)))
    6. -5
      July 16 2016
      Quote: Dr. Bormental
      The mess begins, the whole world is in ruins .. we will all burn up in an atomic fire. In a couple of billion years, cockroaches will sit on the VO and discuss whatever it is .. well, type .. ha- haha- you have the nickname Bormental - then you have a short mustache)))

      Yes, you have megalomania, Dr. Bormental, you want to reincarnate in a couple of billion years smile at least in cockroaches. wink Well, not a bad wish.
    7. -1
      July 16 2016
      and the size will be five meters in length, and the mind is not ours ... only the remains of our tribe will eat ...
    8. +1
      July 16 2016
      One thing calms down - we'll take part !! winked
    9. 0
      July 17 2016
      Quote: Dr. Bormental
      The mess begins, the whole world is in ruins .. we will all burn up in an atomic fire. In a couple of billion years, cockroaches will sit on the VO and discuss whatever it is .. well, type .. ha- haha- you have the nickname Bormental - then you have a short mustache)))

      It seems to me that this cycle has been repeated several times already.
      Perhaps Africa and other underdeveloped countries of the 3 of the world will not be bombed by nuclear weapons, perhaps the resettlement of the African population will be repeated again and twenty-five again.
    10. 0
      July 18 2016
      Do they lie? In any war, there are agreements, no matter how frostbitten they are, they will not use weapons that will lead to the end of the world.
  2. +2
    July 16 2016
    People ... where are you all?
    1. +3
      July 16 2016
      People ... where are you all?

      salt and matches wassat
    2. +8
      July 16 2016
      Quote: Dr. Bormental
      People ... where are you all?

      Come on, Ivan Arnoldych. We will fight here .... quietly. I have charged a cellar. Cognac "Elders" 7-year-old. Colleague Scoundrel suggested a recipe for a snack. request
      1. 0
        July 17 2016
        drinks we’ll fight together)))
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  3. +1
    July 16 2016
    Everyone went to the front.
  4. +5
    July 16 2016
    all these NATO chairmen are schizoids ... NATO bases, the US and the EU all over the world are stuck in military bases, but the Kremlin’s hand and Russian aggression seem to them ... Are you out of your mind (rhetorical question)?
    1. +1
      July 16 2016
      They are completely out of their mind. And the question of the Russian threat is quite rhetorical for them. It's like ritual dances ...
  5. 0
    July 16 2016
    There. Already.
  6. 0
    July 16 2016
    And against this background, the entire management of the Baltic Fleet is completely "retrained". Now is the main time and people who are able to rectify the situation, and with that and with that there are obvious problems ...
    1. -2
      July 16 2016
      There has long been inculcated fashion for everything German, judging by the names of cafes, shops, etc. , and the population is accustomed to travel to border countries, the Königsberg district has breathed, the enemy is on the alert.
      1. +15
        July 16 2016
        so do not drive. I live here. nothing like that here. yes Kaliningraders pose as Europeans but in a good way. Well, such a joke is such a local, no more. we have no separatist sentiments. I do not speak for individual "jackals". but in general, the mood is patriotic, sometimes even too much, given the general economic depression of the region. because only the military is pumped with loot and the local leadership is full of boots.
        1. +1
          July 16 2016
          Quote: kytx
          so do not drive. I live here. nothing like that here. yes Kaliningraders pose as Europeans but in a good way. Well, such a joke is such a local, no more. we have no separatist sentiments. I do not speak for individual "jackals". but in general, the mood is patriotic, sometimes even too much, given the general economic depression of the region. because only the military is pumped with loot and the local leadership is full of boots.

          And here at least drive, at least do not drive, but the Germans have long been working there with the elite
          http://newsbalt.ru/reviews/2016/05/kaliningrad-deutsch-nko/
          and this region just will not be left.
          1. +1
            July 16 2016
            20 screaming bulk freedom
            By the way, where did you see the "elite"?
          2. +3
            July 16 2016
            - These were some twenty-five-year-old men from all over the city ... Then they were almost knocked down at the intersection of Mira-Leonov - riot police saved ...
            - And don't be afraid for the "Koenigsberg", really, your like-minded people are working hard on this issue, systematically transforming the beautiful old city into another "Builders' Avenue"! Soon it will be indistinguishable from any residential area of ​​any large city ... It's sad!
            1. 0
              July 17 2016
              Quote: saygon66

              - And don't be afraid for the "Koenigsberg", really, your like-minded people are working hard on this issue, systematically transforming the beautiful old city into another "Builders' Avenue"! Soon it will be indistinguishable from any residential area of ​​any large city ... It's sad!

              So your city back in 1945, my like-minded people destroyed, invite the Germans, this is their culture, they will bring you beauty and order.
              1. 0
                July 17 2016
                "The culture does not have a national identity! It either exists or does not exist!"
                “It doesn’t matter what the nationality of those who shit on the porches ... and the Germans will not help here.”
                - And everything that was conquered in the 45 for 71 as OUR is NOT GERMAN ... but the destruction of the city continues ... and the good would be built instead of something better than painted multi-colored water-emulsion boxes.
                -
                1. 0
                  July 17 2016
                  Quote: saygon66
                  - And everything that was conquered in the 45th year already 71 as OUR - NOT GERMAN

                  "Nashe" is like, what is common between Russians and Poles, what is that?
                  Well, not German Danzig now, but is he really yours at the end of World War II, "Liberator" are you my dear from "fascist aggression"?
                  1. +2
                    July 17 2016
                    - In fact, today the Kaliningrad region belongs to the Russian Federation - try to squeeze it!
                    - I didn’t take part in the war with the fascists (unfortunately), I’m young ... But the calls to destroy “all of them” are very reminiscent of the cries of the same patriots in one of the former Soviet republics - they also strive to dismiss every last trace of the past, with that difference, that the past is associated with Russian culture.
                    1. 0
                      July 17 2016
                      Quote: saygon66
                      - In fact, today the Kaliningrad region belongs to the Russian Federation - try to squeeze it!

                      And you yourself will not try to "squeeze out" what the Kaliningrad region lacks, otherwise it’s not hard for me, like the Poles, to sit through the whole war in a hut or in a Warsaw apartment, and then dictate my rights on behalf of the “right of nations to self-determination” and to the one who liberated "my" land from the invaders, and to the one who gave me their land?
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                    3. 0
                      July 17 2016
                      Quote: saygon66
                      - I did not take part in the war with the Nazis (unfortunately)

                      Yes, do not worry so much about it. After all, it’s not up to you to decide when to live in this world.
                      So, what is "still ahead" for you, but who is your husband, you probably put a cross in December 1993 in the right line. Well, from here Klaipeda and Donbass and Crimea are not ours. And then in 2014 Crimea is Ours,
                      but otherwise the beautiful Marquise is all right, all is well.
                      1. 0
                        July 17 2016
                        - Alas! He also did not take part in deciding the fate of the Union - he lived in places that had also become non-ours overnight ...
                        - About "squeezing out the missing" I, apparently, misunderstood something ... what -
                        - About "everything is ahead" I agree with you ... here we are the first to butt.
                      2. 0
                        July 17 2016
                        Quote: saygon66
                        - Alas! He also did not take part in deciding the fate of the Union - he lived in places that had also become non-ours overnight ...

                        This was decided in the spring of 1991, and not in 1993.
                        Quote: saygon66
                        - About "squeezing out the missing" I, apparently, misunderstood something ...

                        Yes, I also did not understand those "winners" who hung the flag over the Reichstag and it was even cheerful there until 1983, and then, out of need, they measured the Central and Western parts of East Prussia to the "Poles brothers".
                      3. 0
                        July 17 2016
                        “What did I miss?” What did we have in 93? However, in these events, with all the desire, I could not participate ...
                      4. -1
                        July 17 2016
                        Germans, even from the territory of the GDR, many fled to the west, Germans from Polish lands were settled in the GDR, 2/3 of East Prussia, Pomerania and Silesia were appeased by Poles instead of "Eastern Kresses" so that the USSR would not "look like an aggressor" in the eyes of the world community ... two questions were immediately resolved - demographic and political.
                      5. 0
                        July 17 2016
                        a significant part of the German "refugees" later died of hunger in the West, even local
                        there was no less than 4,5 million people in the GDR, there was no hunger, food was distributed by the Soviet Army
                        in the Western zone, the tractor cost 4 kg of butter, but there was no fuel for it, the Anglo-American-French Germans continued to reduce, as before the bombing of selectively living quarters ...
                        they fled there both on foot and the whole Wilhelms of the Gustlows, on which was not written and besides them there were still troops.
                        the bulk went by small fishing vessels
                        you can watch "4 days in May", a pretty realistic movie
                      6. +3
                        July 18 2016
                        Quote: Captain Nemo
                        happy

                        The flag was cheerful, that is, having fun.

                        Quote: Captain Nemo
                        due to unnecessity

                        Needs?


                        Quote: Captain Nemo
                        fascist aggression

                        She aggression ball fascist?

                        Now let's get something about culture ....

                        Now I will cry and go to the branch about the exam ...
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      2. 0
        July 16 2016
        Quote: figvam
        There has long been inculcated fashion for everything German

        have you been from "there" for a long time? !!!!!
        and what do you think is "used to traveling to border countries" ?!
        1. +1
          July 17 2016
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

          have you been from "there" for a long time? !!!!!
          and what do you think is "used to traveling to border countries" ?!

          And that tens of thousands of Kaliningraders, taking advantage of the "small border traffic", did not go shopping in Poland, leaving millions there, and they even ride to Lithuania.
          1. 0
            July 17 2016
            - And it is true! Therefore, not everyone could afford to shop at the prices that were offered (and offered) in our retail chains.
            - I would love to buy where nito is in Smolensk, and even in Minsk - but try to get there ...
            - And if you really were in Kaliningrad, you could not help but notice that our region is still cut off from the rest of Russia, and little is being done to change this situation.
            1. 0
              July 17 2016
              Quote: saygon66
              ... we are the first to butt.

              Quote: saygon66
              - And it is true! Therefore, not everyone could afford to shop at the prices that were offered (and offered) in our retail chains.
              - I would love to buy where nito is in Smolensk, and even in Minsk - but try to get there ...
              - And if you really were in Kaliningrad, you could not help but notice that our region is still cut off from the rest of Russia, and little is being done to change this situation.

              The fact of the matter is that you will be the first to get it. To the west, Kaliningrad is like a bone in the throat.
              First, they fed the people with freedom of access to neighboring countries, you quickly get used to good things, and now they will begin to chop off and block everything, so that the people groan and be even more dissatisfied with their power. Your opinion will be manipulated and fueled by the protest mood, then the "guest performers" will gather on the right day and arrange for you a "Maidan" for disconnecting from Russia.
              And the fact that the region is cut off from Russia, it’s yes, you can’t build a bridge to the Crimea.
              1. 0
                July 17 2016
                - laughing It was only Madame Zemlyachka who could agitate "for revolution" in the barracks ...
                - Only then the people were simpler and the "countrywomen" were bolder.
                - It seems that it’s not the agitated agitators who will ruin us, but their idiots in power - from those who are well with money stolen from the state everywhere ...
              2. 0
                July 18 2016
                Maybe dig a tunnel?
              3. 0
                July 18 2016
                Maybe dig a tunnel?
    2. 0
      July 16 2016
      If Denmark is such a Russophobic country, why would we give them to Bornholm? Sweden is no less Russophobic and its armed forces are more serious. In which case, it will formally or informally join NATO against Russia. No matter how impressive the German Navy has in the Baltic puddle, everything is drowned by aviation and anti-ship missile systems, they pose the main threat to Russian ships in the event of a conflict, which will make communication through the Baltic Sea impossible.
      1. +1
        July 16 2016
        Or it was necessary to demand from this country the demilitarization of this island, perhaps even to place a base on it themselves. Now she would be unprotected, but still would not hurt ...
        1. 0
          July 16 2016
          By the way, during the USSR, this island in my opinion had a demilitarized status.
          1. +8
            July 16 2016
            this was (and the base would be) a completely justifiable demand - Denmark fought with the Nazis for two hours (the armed forces were 15 thousand people, they lost 16 people killed), then only 2 Danes fought against the USSR in the Danish SS corps for more than 6000 years, after it was disbanded spread over other buildings in which Danish soldiers were also.

            During the landing on the island of Bornholm and its liberation from the Nazis, 90 Soviet soldiers died.
            1. 0
              July 16 2016
              Until the autumn of 1943, no one even disarmed the "surrendered" Danish army!
      2. +6
        July 16 2016
        Sweden is no less Russophobic and its armed forces are more serious. In which case, it will formally or informally join NATO against Russia.
        Well, if you really want to be a target, let them abut, only then do not complain too much. Let them not think of serving time as in the Second World War, with their fake neutrality.
        1. +1
          July 16 2016
          Since the time of Karl, the Swedes have had the "Poltava syndrome". They declare a jamb of sprats a Russian submarine.
    3. 0
      July 16 2016
      Quote: svp67
      And against this background, it is completely "overfused"

      on time "fucked up" is not even bad, here is Pavlova before the war not that, but if that, then wow
      1. +1
        July 16 2016
        And in Denmark, the most terrible women and a third of Danes officially earn money as prostitutes, such a country ...
        1. -4
          July 16 2016
          And also in Denmark
          Have you been there though? tongue
          1. 0
            July 16 2016
            You didn’t look at the faces and did everything else with them there?
          2. 0
            July 16 2016
            Probably because they do not like that these fears Russo tourists ignore. lol
            1. 0
              July 16 2016
              And since ignore, where does the beauty and healthy blood come from? Northern Italians are the most beautiful young ladies in Europe, and all because the Russians and Poles stolen by the Crimean Tatars to Istanbul were bought mainly by Italian merchants.
              1. 0
                July 16 2016
                Northern Italians are the most beautiful young ladies in Europe
                And where does infa come from? Been to Italy? Or somewhere else in Europe? No.
                1. 0
                  July 16 2016
                  From Italian merchants ... Europe borders Asia on the Ural Mountains, further south along the Ural River, Capia and the Caucasus Mountain Range

                  there was made a "discovery" (obviously not the University of Nuuk) that the Greenlad Eskimos are also the most degenerate nation, can there be Danes who colonized them with that? lol
                  1. 0
                    July 16 2016
                    From Italian merchants.
                    That was never there but infa from patriotic resources. And I have been several times (and these people live and meet in London) And I declare that all your stories are for the internal consumption of pseudo-patriots.
                    The Danes who colonized them at that?
                    Danes and Inuit practically do not start mixed families. It’s not accepted and that’s all.
                    1. 0
                      July 16 2016
                      It’s not your business where anyone was ... you talked with Italian merchants or living in London (I found something to be proud of, along with the New York and Detroit the most depressed region in the Anglophon world for losers) only hang up in VO to troll, set minuses and about patriots write badly?

                      tell about the families of this third of Danish prostitutes
                      1. -2
                        July 16 2016
                        the most depressed region in the Anglophon world for losers
                        Did you come up with it yourself? No, I'm just curious? Maybe I got acquainted with the prices of real estate?
                        and writing about patriots is bad?
                        You are not a patriot, you are a clown discrediting patriotism.
                        It's none of your business where who was
                        It’s just mine in this case, because you need to argue about the taste of oysters with those who ate them, and not with experts at the Wikipedia level. I have a growing suspicion that you know about the world abroad thanks to TV and tabloids. I guessed?
                      2. 0
                        July 17 2016
                        No, everyone knows except you lol
                        And they sell and buy a lot of it at such prices? In Moscow they say even higher.

                        clown is you

                        nobody argues with you, have you even cleaned them?
                      3. -1
                        July 17 2016
                        And they sell and buy a lot of it at such prices?
                        Yes many. And they live in London, and all the losers. Besides you, naturally your hole is closer to you. And naturally, genes from Russia are responsible for beauty. Are you trying to console yourself?
                        did you even clean them?
                        Yes, it is not interesting to me, because it is available. The question is once again, was it over the hill or according to eyewitnesses desu gonish?
                      4. -1
                        July 17 2016
                        The hole (waxing hole) where the socks are washed in the same from which they wash, is closer to you.
                        Go and comfort yourself in a pub with beer with 1/3 of the Danes' husbands - they are all aware of what their wives are officially doing, and this is normal for "non-degenerate" people, maybe even one of them or whom will offer you something ...
                      5. 0
                        July 17 2016
                        socks are washed in the same wash
                        Erase here in the washing machine, so less water leaves. And washed under running water for the past 80 years.
                        husbands 1/3 Danes - they all know what their wives are doing
                        Do you really believe that? Once again, was in Denmark?
                      6. 0
                        July 17 2016
                        You've seen? Do they wash the dishes?

                        I know ... once again it will be - "have you been in a Danish brothel with every third prostitute"? lol
                      7. -1
                        July 17 2016
                        Have you looked? Do they wash the dishes?
                        Do not believe it, yes. I live here and see that an automatic machine is used for washing, a Euro-mixer for washing (as they are called here), and dishes in the kitchen in the sink can be done with your hands. As elsewhere, in a word.
                        "you were in a Danish brothel with every third prostitute
                        Have you even reached Denmark? To see how it is? By the way, the brothels are illegal there, and with raids on them they catch bearers of beautiful genes with enviable regularity ... Actually, less than half of the Danes actually are, according to statistics. According to the same statistics, there are about 6000 prostitutes in total
                      8. -1
                        July 17 2016
                        In an English family?

                        Have you already entered the Sharia?
                        They are usually on call, go to their house (with her husband alive). Yes
                      9. -1
                        July 17 2016
                        In an English family?
                        Have you already entered the Sharia?
                        Unsubscribe, patriot.
                      10. 0
                        July 17 2016
                        google "prostitution in Denmark", "Swedish family" (and their%), well, about English hygiene, islander, otherwise you don't know who you live with crying
                      11. 0
                        July 17 2016
                        google "swedish family"
                        So yours from porn sites! You should have said so from the start.
                        about English hygiene, an islander, otherwise you don’t know among whom you live
                        I just know. Do you know what is happening not in Russia? Everything is bad?
                        google "prostitution in Denmark"
                        Google There are about 6000 of them in the country, more than half are foreigners.
                      12. 0
                        July 17 2016
                        Was it written? Or immediately got to see the pictures?

                        Well, if you know - tell me, what are the differences?

                        Probably the rest took advantage of the "right to be forgotten." lol
                      13. -1
                        July 17 2016
                        Quote: Anglorussian
                        Unsubscribe, patriot.

                        you forgot to put quotes, although you can be seen without it with all sorts of "holes"

                        even the Germans cannot stand the Danes.
                      14. 0
                        July 17 2016
                        Quote: Anglorussian
                        and dishes in the kitchen in the sink can be and hands. As elsewhere, in a word.

                        and in the sink with your hands exactly how?
                        "like everywhere else" - not like in Russia ... lol
                      15. 0
                        July 17 2016
                        although some people in Russia "wash" this way, they have seen it, but rarely ...
                      16. 0
                        July 17 2016
                        although some people in Russia "wash" this way, they have seen it, but rarely ...
                        But how do they wash dishes in Russia? (Given the fact that 10 million Russians can afford a trip abroad)
                      17. 0
                        July 17 2016
                        Well, you type came to England from Russia, so you should know?
                        or have you never left any other country? lol
                      18. 0
                        July 17 2016
                        you type came to England from Russia, then you should know?
                        Well, 17 countries in the long run have a look. And how many people have been brought to know, also from everywhere. So I kind of know.
                      19. -1
                        July 17 2016
                        That is, less than half the states were? Well, write ...
                      20. -1
                        July 17 2016
                        So far, it was only in one state, New York. And you?
                      21. 0
                        July 17 2016
                        Who would doubt that from London and to the state of New York! But what was not in Detroit? there is even cooler ...
                      22. 0
                        July 17 2016
                        Next year I will go to Seattle. I’ll probably stop by Detroit.
                      23. 0
                        July 17 2016
                        Do not delay, Seattle wants to secede, no matter what winked
                      24. 0
                        July 17 2016
                        And they are just the field of the Yellowstone eruption and depreciation of the dollar will separate. Thursday after rainfall and whistling cancer on the mountain. And what will happen when alakh dengi konchutsa?
                      25. 0
                        July 17 2016
                        They want to be in time before yellowstone, so as not to be like Detroit lol
                      26. 0
                        July 18 2016
                        Well, as the cancer whistles, so they will separate. In any case, they will let me in without a visa.
                      27. 0
                        July 18 2016
                        And now they are letting you into Turkey with a visa? bully
                      28. 0
                        July 18 2016
                        They let me go without her. I just don’t need it. (This is abroad for Russians in Chinese leather jackets) And where have you been allowed to go?
                      29. 0
                        July 18 2016
                        Why not? Are there such beaches in England? bully
                      30. 0
                        July 18 2016
                        In Cornwall. And in Dorset. They even make wine and tea.
                      31. 0
                        July 18 2016
                        On the beaches? well done ...
                      32. 0
                        July 18 2016
                        On the beaches? well done ...
                        If only I read. And then the wrong one has gone now. By God, sometimes there’s no interest.
                      33. 0
                        July 18 2016
                        Let me tell you what other smart beaches you have. bully
                        Caution spoiler
                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB4vcOjBAmU
                        and "Goblin" laughing
                  2. -1
                    July 17 2016
                    The border from the Caspian Sea runs along the Kumo-Manych depression and the channel of the Don River to the city of Azov.
                    1. 0
                      July 17 2016
                      It's funny that in the USSR they always measured on the main Caucasian ridge.
            2. 0
              July 16 2016
              these fearotin Russo tourists ignore
              With accuracy to the contrary, it is correctly noticed laughing
              1. 0
                July 16 2016
                your accuracy is the other way around - even their own de peasants ignore them, prefer each other more
                1. +1
                  July 16 2016
                  peasants ignore their own, they prefer each other more
                  You should go to a sex therapist for fear of gay invasion, you will completely go crazy, Polygraph Poligrafovich ...
                  1. 0
                    July 17 2016
                    Do not forget to drink pills from your head with fish and chips, among those you just live more
                    1. 0
                      July 17 2016
                      among such people you live more
                      And in Russia, everything is stapled, right? I wish I looked in the mirror.
                      1. +1
                        July 17 2016
                        Something like that. Zadornov about English "hygiene" see more often ... there is about what is under it.
                      2. +1
                        July 17 2016
                        Zadornov about English "hygiene" see more often
                        And I thought, where are you taking such info. belay Well, yes, Zadornov is indisputable authority. I also recommend Petrosyan, he’s even a ray. Awareness is greater.
                      3. 0
                        July 17 2016
                        Zadornov still does not know everything ...
                      4. +3
                        July 17 2016
                        Girls, do not quarrel.
                      5. 0
                        July 17 2016
                        Malcheg, you are not in the subject lol go play your toys

                        Uncle was warned that the Eskimos in Greenland had barbecue that he didn’t go to your Fiji because he considers himself the most erudite person on all issues because he lives in London laughing
                      6. 0
                        July 17 2016
                        considers himself more erudite
                        I’m not more erudite, but you’re absolutely blinded. Yes, and false to the same. Teaches me how it is in London ... In a smoking room, tell such tales.
                      7. 0
                        July 17 2016
                        Since you do not know how to truly even in London (as well as in Denmark, Greenland), the big question is whether you really are there ...
                        Maybe "Sherlock Homes with Doctor Watson" looked at the Baltic states with its relatively beautiful architecture, you confuse this "place" laughing
  7. +10
    July 16 2016
    This is not the first time recently I have heard of great forces in Kaliningrad. Somewhat puzzling, because I see something one, then the other part disappears. The new case incorporates existing connections, which does not increase strength. If, finally, our tops thought about defense, then at least it calms.
    The fact is that under an agreement with Europe, troops should be located no closer than 50 kilometers from the border. We get only the axis of Kaliningrad - Gusev, and of the Zemland Peninsula. So you can’t deploy many troops here.
    1. -15
      July 16 2016
      Quote: Igor V
      This is not the first time recently I have heard of great forces in Kaliningrad. Somewhat puzzling, because I see something one, then the other part disappears. The new case incorporates existing connections, which does not increase strength. If, finally, our tops thought about defense, then at least it calms.
      The fact is that under an agreement with Europe, troops should be located no closer than 50 kilometers from the border. We get only the axis of Kaliningrad - Gusev, and of the Zemland Peninsula. So you can’t deploy many troops here.

      Do you still like to play "toy soldiers"?
      1. +3
        July 16 2016
        Yes, you certainly know better from Saratov.
        1. -4
          July 16 2016
          Maybe they have his tin? laughing
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    3. +1
      July 16 2016
      Quote: Igor V
      you can’t deploy many troops here.


      But is it necessary to keep a lot of troops in the Kaliningrad exclave?
      All of them will be subjected to the first and - quite unexpected blow ... And quite possibly - destroyed ...

      Let's be realist pragmatists ...

      It seems to me that you need to hold a small amount of strength there, so only to play with your muscles a little ...

      But this is purely my personal opinion ...
      1. 0
        July 16 2016
        For many years, Lithuanians and Poles have been screaming about the Russian threat, but they border Russia only in the Kaliningrad region. To keep few troops here means to provoke scumbags, which, in principle, took place until the recent past. Having created a powerful fist here, you can only make him think about the consequences with his presence. In the event of hostilities, it will be very difficult to strengthen the grouping from the outside.
        By the way, the NATO members are training in counteracting the cutting of the corridor in the KO at a number of recent exercises. Not so simple.
  8. -5
    July 16 2016
    Suwalki. Kaliningrad. War?
    Quote: Resident007
    and they see the Kremlin’s hand and Russia's aggression ...

    In someone, the whole war seems to be! With such headings it would be more careful.
    1. +1
      July 16 2016
      Transnistria and Russian troops are blocked in it, and the blockade is an act of war - casus belli.
      1. +1
        July 16 2016
        The blockade of Transnistria is in one direction - the Russian military are released from there, but they are not allowed there, but it is still a blockade ... Someone would try to "joke" with the Americans like that.
        From the side of Ukraine - a total blockade.
        It would be useful to recall that during the time of Suvorov, the border with their protectorate was on the Dniester, and for Moldova, the Dniester region on the jelly itself is Transdniestria, it was transferred to the Moldavian SSR in 1939 as an appendage to Bessarabia after its former under Romania 19 years selected back and this very MSSR was formed. Prior to this, the border between Rouge and the USSR was again along the Dniester.
        PMR is the choice of the people as a means of protection from the Romanian Natsik. But of course, yes - 70% is a tidbit and therefore the Romanian nationalists of Moldova immediately hinted that without the PMR, although it is beyond the Dniester, they do not want to see Moldova as part of Great Romania. One was not taken into account - that most Moldovans (not only in Transdniestria) do not like Romanians. laughing
    2. +1
      July 16 2016
      In someone, the whole war seems to be! With such headings it would be more careful.
      You still do not understand who is imagining? Who shouts the most about Russian "aggression" and, under ridiculous pretexts, is deploying offensive missile weapons on the borders with Russia? Who has always started wars? Russia? Who claims that the main goal of the West is the destruction of Russia and Russians in general? Read Western publications, the headlines there are generally awkward, and they are not shy with their expressions. And no one is dreaming of anything, the war against Russia has been going on for a long time (many centuries), and practically never stopped. The only question is when this war will once again turn into a hot phase.
      1. -3
        July 16 2016
        Quote: Orionvit
        Read Western publications,

        Enough to read the comments of hot goals in the VO! winked
  9. +13
    July 16 2016
    While the ball is on our side. What Brussels will answer, we will find out very soon.
    something illogical conclusion - if we have the ball - answer us, not Brussels. And what should we "answer" ?! Only building a strong state with a strong economy and an army is, in my opinion, the only answer. Not even an answer, but the only form of survival for our civilization. Everything else is immediate benefits and delays)
    1. +2
      July 16 2016
      The Chinese are great in this regard. The situation in the South China Sea clearly shows the advantage of such a position.
  10. +14
    July 16 2016
    The situation is vaguely reminiscent of the 39th year and the Polish freaks with the Danzing Corridor. That, in general, and provoked Germany to defeat Poland. Among other things. Poles are real provocateurs. In the 38th, the Teshin region was chopped off from Czechoslovakia, in the 39th they signed an agreement with England and France on mutual defense - and immediately they began to provoke the Germans that they would take Danzing away. They blocked the Danzing corridor - and got a complete defeat ... but history teaches nothing arrogant. Give them Kaliningrad? So there you can reach Warsaw laughing
    1. +4
      July 16 2016
      Polish freaks along the corridor had nothing to do with it - the Nazis steadily went to war with the USSR on the path to which Poland had been since 1937

      the Poles simply needed a defensive alliance with Stalin (who had shot Tukhachevsky and his gang taking Warsaw), but the clever and brave Pilsudsky, who would have had enough of all this to take such a decision, had already died.

      the current entry of the Poles into NATO is also no reason - from whom are they seeking protection, from Belarus?
      1. 0
        July 19 2016
        Quote: Simpsonian
        Polish freaks along the corridor had nothing to do with it - the Nazis steadily went to war with the USSR on the path to which Poland had been since 1937

        Polish freaks just to do with it. Because if not for them, then there was a non-illusory chance of the union of Poland and the Reich against the USSR. In the end, the Poles shared the Germans with Czechoslovakia. But the Poles did not agree with the Germans on the issue of concessions by Germany for the corridor.
        Plus, Poland imagined itself to be a power capable of pursuing an independent policy - and therefore tried to sit on three chairs right away, balancing between France / Britain, the Reich and the USSR.
        1. +1
          July 19 2016
          No one in the USSR would have waited for German troops to pass through Poland and the "eastern Kresses" occupied by it to the old Soviet border, which actually happened in 1939 (both with Poland and with Finland, which took the German side)
          Since 1938, Poland has already had no place in German politics, it just stood in the way ...
    2. 0
      July 16 2016
      For us, the situation is better now. Russia today has the world's largest arsenal of nuclear weapons, so let them immediately put on white slippers.
  11. +2
    July 16 2016
    If NATO takes advantage of the convenient situation and manages to take over Kaliningrad, then for the Russian Federation there will be no other options. How is it that there are no options? There is also a very good option - it is a preemptive missile strike at the barracks of these battalions, for example, with "Caliber". We already have experience.
  12. +3
    July 16 2016
    It is high time for this NAT to be put in the pose "mom washes the floor". She is not touched - she begs herself.
    Talking nonsense, disgusted to listen.
    An example is China, which in the South China Sea showed a price to international agreements and
    Hague gays in robes. "Dragon" said mine and nobody croaks.
  13. +1
    July 16 2016
    "... As long as the ball is on our side ..."
    In the light of recent sports events, I wouldn’t get excited ...! wink Nobody noticed that the uniform of potential "invaders" is brand new, with shop tags ... Even if I try to go out on moose in old, tattered "overalls", from which my wife has gag reflexes when I confuse home refrigerator and chest at the base ... We have moose ... In Europe, war ... Kindergarten! smileTrue, an adult ...
  14. 0
    July 16 2016
    The Fulda corridor also occupied forty years a lot of space on the maps and in the heads of the generals. Being both real and fictitious, it ensured employment for many military leaders on both sides for the entire duration of the confrontation. But then we had a GSVG (not a fist, but a sledgehammer). What are they afraid of now?
  15. +2
    July 16 2016
    "In the event of a critical aggravation of the situation, Russia will have to forget about the sea route through the Baltic due to the fact that this transport artery will be controlled by the powerful German fleet."
    But what about Suvorov's: "To beat not by number, but by skill"?
    1. 0
      July 16 2016
      So the Germans will rake again. If desired, we can easily destroy not only the German fleet, but also Germany itself as a state. Lovers of sausages play with fire.
  16. 0
    July 16 2016
    I would like to discuss with you one topic, as soon as preparations for the launch of rockets began, all satellites were blinded, what will happen? Your opinion!
    1. +9
      July 16 2016
      I would like to discuss with you one topic, as soon as preparations for the launch of rockets began, all satellites were blinded, what will happen? Your opinion!
      In the event of the loss of the satellite constellation, the States and NATO will really go blind, they have all GPS-based guidance systems. On the other hand, a mass of somewhat "outdated" weapons remained in Russia. For example, the Kh-55 cruise missiles, in which the navigation system generally works on the principle of scanning the terrain, and does not need satellites. There are a lot of such examples. It is also necessary to take into account the training of military personnel. I don't know how it is now, but in the 80s. my father told me about the teachings of the armies of the Warsaw Pact countries, in which he had a chance to participate. During the artillery firing, everyone seemed to cope, but when the commander ordered to hide the calculators, it turned out that all the gunners of the friendly armies were not capable of combat. The Soviets did an excellent job with all the calculations of shooting with a pencil and paper, the maximum slide rule. This is also one example, even if you do not take into account the natural ingenuity of the Russian man. I hope that the Soviet school in the Russian Armed Forces is not forgotten. If you take the Western military, then take away his companions, take a roll of toilet paper, deprive him of a hot lunch, and take them with your bare hands. They are puffed up, because they have not had a strong enemy for a long time, they can only bomb the aborigines.
      1. 0
        July 17 2016
        Thank you for the informative answer.
  17. UVB
    +1
    July 16 2016
    If NATO takes advantage of a convenient situation and manages to take over Kaliningrad,
    The question is, who will succeed faster, to capture the Kaliningrad or Russia, to break through the corridor through Lithuania. It is unlikely that the RF Armed Forces will wait for the capture.
    1. +8
      July 16 2016
      The question should be posed wrong. Which is faster: Poles and Germans will take Kaliningrad, or Russian aviation will strike at Berlin and Warsaw with cruise missiles. And I wouldn’t envy labuses at all, let them get ready to meet the polar fox.
  18. +4
    July 16 2016
    The Baltic is a puddle on a global scale, so that in the event of an aggravation of the situation no one will control it completely. With the help of coastal complexes it is quite possible to control it. So it’s still not clear who will have to suffer more, such countries as Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia can generally forget what trade in the sea looks like, and given their lack of oil and gas, they will die of boredom! laughing fellow laughing
  19. +5
    July 16 2016
    despite the fact that Denmark is one of the most Russophobic EU countries.
    Why are they there? What side does Denmark generally relate to Russia? They don’t even know how Russians look. Three countries are threatening there from beyond the sea, the heroes are fighting pancakes. Or do they think they will close the flood zone? The Turks, too, have always dreamed of covering the Bosphorus for their whole lives. Do not dig another hole.
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  21. +2
    July 16 2016
    I wonder who from Suwalki decides to stick something to Russia. Then there will be no Suwalki not the state of Suwalki. and there will be an empty planet Earth. I hope there are no fools to start this all. hi
  22. +1
    July 16 2016
    The Germans blocked the Baltic. the sea in two rows pls and all. Our BF submarines showed miracles of heroism breaking through them. Massively perished.
    For the German fleet - minefields. By the way, Admiral Kolchak put them at that time. 2nd world. It is a pity that fate set him up.
    But the surface fleet is vulnerable. Let's remember "Bismarck". Super fortress. Swordfish destroyed. One torpedo from this "maize"
    1. 0
      July 17 2016
      The torpedo hit the stern, LC could not move to Brest. Finished it surface ships. Under water left because of self-flooding.
      Surface ships are all vulnerable to aviation ... proven throughout 2MB and other wars.
      But the expression is not entirely accurate.
  23. +6
    July 16 2016
    In my opinion, everything is quite simple. For NATO, the main thing is that, in case of conflict, not a single strike aircraft take off from KO airfields.
    For the Russian Federation, it is necessary that aerodromes in airspace have been reliably closed by air defense systems, both from land and from the sea.
    After all, there is no need for nuclear weapons to take off and strike with conventional UR-VP from Berlin, Brussels, and, of course, Warsaw.
    1. 0
      July 16 2016
      Nothing will stop Russia from striking at these cities with several hundred X-55СM cruise missiles.
  24. +3
    July 16 2016
    If Russia captures Suwalki, then the Lithuanian scribe :) In Suwalki, the floor of Lithuania is sold, if not all of Lithuania. wink
  25. 0
    July 16 2016
    Poking them in these Suwalki?
  26. +1
    July 16 2016
    We are peaceful people, but our armored train ...
  27. +1
    July 16 2016
    The Balts really should sit quietly under the bunk. Russia can "have a bite" overland communication with NATO in a couple of hours, and the battalion will not close here. To be supplied by sea past Kaliningrad is not funny ... Maybe their hysterical barking is connected precisely with this - cold, sticky sweat, which they cover at one thought ... People do many stupid things out of fear.
  28. 0
    July 16 2016
    strengthening at the western borders of the Russian Federation, this decision is not able to change the balance of military forces in the region, including due to the numerical superiority of the Russian Armed Forces, the authors of the article are convinced.
    If journalists measure pipyr today, what will happen tomorrow?
    Any number will not work) At least not measure. Bury.
  29. +2
    July 16 2016
    Translation of the heading Gazeta Polska, in the picture - “NATO warns - Poland is the region most vulnerable to threats after Donbass” fool
  30. +2
    July 16 2016
    Do not Suwalki remember WWII Klaipeda Liepaja Riga, then everywhere
  31. +1
    July 16 2016
    The situation is rather complicated, let's hope that the mind wins.
    1. 0
      July 17 2016
      Long live the mind, let the insanity disappear ?! lol What do you mean? This is not about our politicians. They learned how to express correctly and do absolutely mediocre things ... Or do you have a bunch of examples when the work started was brought to a victorious end? without looking at how they think "on the side"? You forgive me, weaklings and mediocrities constantly need advice from outsiders and other people's help ...
      hi
  32. +3
    July 17 2016
    1982 year. Europe under the fifth ATS; NATO in horror = USA feverishly rivets nuclear weapons as the only defense against terrible communists. The war did not happen.

    2016 year. There is no ATS (like the USSR); Europe under the fifth of NATO; This annoys Russia = it is urgent to rivet nuclear weapons, as much as possible, as the only guarantor against violent democratization. And war, hopefully, will not happen - if modern nuclear submarines hide under the ice of the Arctic Ocean; the deadly silent diesel-electric submarines will sneak into the waters of the Gulf of Mexico "Barguzins" will hide in the boundless expanses of the Motherland, and the deadly "Sarmatians" with 4202 warheads will hide in the silo "Voevod".
  33. +2
    July 17 2016
    Is that really serious ?!)))
    65 km is, like, a threat to Russia?))))
    Here, I, for example, a peaceful person, look at the map and our open spaces are 8 thousand (THOUSAND !!!) kilometers. And then only 65 km ... What do I think? And any normal person thinks: "Why is this our Kaliningrad land not united with us?" It is not right!
    The poles are funny. If only they would study history, eh. They owe their existence to Russia and Russian. Do not want to admit? We can forget. About the Poles. Absolutely. Forever. )))
    And what do you think? Who in the world will be sad about the Poles? )))))
    1. 0
      July 17 2016
      Most admit that the Poles and Belarusians from Nazism have the largest losses in percentage worn.
      Only they usually do not go to the Russian-speaking Internet, so they are not visible ...
  34. +1
    July 17 2016
    Quote: Lyubopyatov
    Suwalki is a Russian name. Like Lublin, Przemysl ... Even the "German" Schwerin was founded by the Russians as Zverin. And the name of the island of Rügen is a Russian root with a German ending.

    All this is true, of course, but ... if we go this route further, then Berlin is a former Slavic settlement.
    1. 0
      July 17 2016
      So it is ... "Den" and a bear on the coat of arms. No kidding
      look at the map of the Slav and simply western Slavs.
  35. 0
    July 17 2016
    and where is it?
    1. 0
      July 17 2016
      to the left of the dressing room ...
  36. 0
    July 17 2016
    Quote: wks
    Most likely, another option, in response to the invasion, will be nuclear weapons, and not in the ashes of the invasion, where they are likely to manage on their own. But at the NATO headquarters, command posts, concentration of troops and navy in Europe and the United States, they will play according to the full program. Nobody remembers any Suwalki.


    Is it possible to quickly start "the use of nuclear weapons" at "NATO headquarters, command posts, concentrations of troops and navy in Europe and the United States"? And then something is so annoying ..
    1. 0
      July 17 2016
      is it monday already?
  37. 0
    July 17 2016
    Russia will have to forget about the Baltic Sea route, in the event of a critical exacerbation of the situation, due to the fact that this transport artery will be controlled by a powerful fleet of Germany. It became clear why Berlin had invested so much effort into creating impressive naval forces. Not to mention the existence of a fairly modern Danish fleet, despite the fact that Denmark is one of the most Russophobic EU countries.

    Well, Denmark, France, England they have always had and will have interests to inflate Poland territorially, due to the fact that it is east and north of Poland. And why Germany should go to the Russian bayonets, and not for the sake of the "territorial integrity" of Germany, but for the "territorial integrity" of Poland?
    Germany is more likely to be a "Trojan horse" in the camp of NATO, which at the right time will do so to return, if not all, but at least Eastern Silesia with Pamiria. Others are not judged by themselves, and if your grandfathers and great-grandfathers, for the sake of fulfilling an order on a foreign territory, were ready to go to their fathers. That about the Germans and Finns, I would not judge that. Unlike you, the protection of their territories for them is more important than stupid orders issued by fools in marshal's shoulder straps.
    Take the "Prague Spring", why do you think the GDR army did not take part in its suppression, despite the fact that they were most eager to go there?
    But I wouldn’t put much on the German Trojan Horse, most likely, that they will be on the sidelines. And at the expense of Suwalki, how finely you set yourself tasks.
    The lands of Jatvig, East of the Pisa River and north of Narew is no longer Poland. As for Suwalki, this is a dispute between Lithuania and Belarus, in third place is East Prussia, and only then Poland, even though in fact due to Soviet fools, she still uses it.
  38. 0
    July 17 2016
    Another article in the "everything is lost" series.
    The author has not heard anything about the term "threatened period"?
    So, if something really starts to gather at our borders,
    we will arrange such preparations and teachings that the Europeans want
    will disappear right away. I think that there will be a direct statement of readiness
    Strategic Nuclear Forces to deliver a preemptive strike in case of an attack on our territories.
    And it cools the head well.
  39. -1
    July 17 2016
    Quote: Inok10
    ... then the author would like to remind Russia that Russia has the Double Red Banner Baltic Fleet and coastal defense forces, so WE will control the Baltic with the help of the fleet and coastal anti-ship missile systems "Bal" and "Bastion" ... X-35 in the latter modification flies 280 km. ... clearly a map ... ... such an impression, hysteria is being specially whipped up ... already the second delirium for today

    The wife went with our friend. To Kaliningrad from Baltiysk. He said that the fleet did not come out on a sudden alert. Sad I’m not a fan of everything, but also far from urapatriotizma. By the way, Baltiysk is in a straight line, at a distance of 30 km from the Polish border. The fleet is concentrated here. They will beat him.
  40. -1
    July 17 2016
    Chuika says that in such a geopolitical format, Kaliningrad will fall off. Whether transponders will be turned on over the Baltic or not does not matter at all.
  41. 0
    July 17 2016
    Russia needs to declare the withdrawal of all NATO troops from the states bordering us, the Peace Condition. And the states themselves will have to be completely demilitarized. Under our responsibility.
  42. 0
    July 17 2016
    If our time comes, well, so be it. It is unfortunate that past lessons for Western civilization did not go for the future and again they want to play war games with the Russians.
  43. 0
    July 17 2016
    And why was the section of Prussia needed? To remove the threat of world wars for all. In principle, NATO can arrange Port Arthur in Kaliningrad, but the Poles will win, do they really believe in the justice of the German-speaking peoples ... In case of victory, the Germans will insist on the return of Prussian lands, the Danes and Swedes will remember the ancestral lands of the Baltic states, well, the Poles they will suffer for the fact that they are Slavs ... and as usual they will lose the Baltic Sea ... Russia will lose a lot, weaken, but Europe will have to solve the threat of the Near and Middle East without us ... Let us recall a number of Russia's defeats in the wars of 1856, 1905 as a result of which intensified Japan and inconspicuous Germany - then the whole world barely defeated them in World War II, and there was also the first with the collapse of the Russian Empire ... Now they are again trying to weaken Russia and will receive a new threat from the other side - which I don’t know, but to disentangle again will have to work together ...
    1. +1
      July 17 2016
      The USSR or Russia has always been disentangled without any joint efforts, and for this it was arranged for the Russians to bleed themselves. Now with nuclear weapons the situation is fundamentally different. You don’t have to go to Berlin for 4 years, no one will get out of Lamanche or in the USA.
  44. +1
    July 17 2016
    Calm down gentlemen! Nobody will ever give Kaliningrad (the Russian city!) To anyone, and if anyone tries to take it from us by force, I personally do not envy them, and Geyrope and II.
  45. -1
    July 17 2016
    In the event of a critical aggravation of the situation, Russia will have to forget about the sea route in the Baltic Sea due to the fact that this transport artery will be controlled by a powerful German fleet.

    Consider the powerful fleet of Germany (only battle crab)
    Submarines 6
    15 frigates
    5 Corvettes
    10 Missile Boats
    Moreover, half of this awesome squadron quietly rotts at the base in Kiel.

    And we have just upgraded, with "Caliber", as I understand it, the first rank cruiser "Aurora" laughing
    So the author got a little excited, this fleet can only compete with Somali pirates.
  46. 0
    July 18 2016
    and why should we drag ourselves into Lithuania, beat so in the face of the gentry, right into Suwalki on the left, the second hook on the right along the border of the Lithuanian-gentry
    1. 0
      July 20 2016
      This is through Belarus, first they would ask her if she needed this war and even nuclear. But father, and so it behaves like a weather vane. Therefore, it may be necessary to unblock across the Baltic states and punish it for joining NATO, and all sorts of 5th columns may begin to put pressure on the fact that this area is not historical Russian lands, so is it worth starting an apocalypse because of it ... block the message from Transnistria Seiyas even two non-NATO countries have enough untreated greyhounds.
  47. +1
    July 18 2016
    Before pulling troops to the borders of Russia, NATO should think: is there a chance to win? 1) Remain without oil and gas 2) they will be cut off by sea transportation, and this is hunger 3) oil and gas storages will be blown up, and how will their armored vehicles advance 4 ) all communications, computers, energy systems, a financial superstructure were destroyed by cyber attacks, because Russia has the best programmers, and in the West scientists are the emigrants of their Russia, they know a lot of secrets 5) Caliber, Iskander rockets 6) a very cold winter as a result of using geotectonic weapons overlaps golfs Rome by raising sea plit.I whatnot .Even without the use of strategic nuclear weapons.
  48. 0
    July 18 2016
    I don’t know what will happen there, but on the whole (the passage to our territories in Kaliningrad) we will still have to deal with the under-states of the Baltic states. It is the matter of time. Anyway, invented nationalities are one of the main problems of our reality.
  49. 0
    July 18 2016
    Quote: Simpsonian
    OK sit in the dirty and carry them your money ...

    Iron argument))
    Of course, discussing the power of weapons, etc., which I only saw in the picture, is pleasant and, most importantly, does not oblige us to anything: no one will ever ask your opinion on foreign policy. And about the pressing and the concrete, about ours, about the painful - so unpleasant, so slippery ...
    And so are our deputies - everyone hid for Putin, for the successes of his foreign policy. And the people did not delegate them at all. so that instead of the clever Lavrov, they’ll die))
    Sometimes one really thinks - why the authorities are ordinary people, their opinion, why Moscow - the provinces.
    It is bitter to admit that in this sense, we have not walked far from Ukraine. Kiev, too, that Crimea, that Donbass is important not for people, but for territories, as well as Moscow - Siberia and Kaliningrad.
    Glad to be wrong, of course.
    1. 0
      July 18 2016
      On this issue, the Germans who called this city think the same thing.
    2. 0
      July 18 2016
      Mets deputies you really choose
  50. 0
    July 18 2016
    Quote: Rus2012
    Our enclave in the form of the Kaliningrad region
    This is our exclave (half-exclave of the Russian Federation, to be more precise). Given that the Kaliningrad Region is neither an enclave (semi-enclave) of Poland, nor an enclave (semi-enclave) of Lithuania, you are more likely just an ignoramus author. Moreover, the author is a writer, but not a reader: the article clearly mentions that the Kaliningrad region is an exclave.
  51. NGK
    +1
    July 18 2016
    Quote: Sambia
    So far, I, who was born and living in Könick, see the threat exclusively from our officials - the governor, the mayor and other gangsters who were washed after the 90s, who settled down with their families on budget grandmothers, derban them together with Muscovites, and the people do not know where shout. The media is all under censorship, the Popular Front only on TV brings justice, you can call Putin (on the President's Direct Line). Fraud and poverty reigns, almost like a scoop. Salary is delayed, communal apartment is prohibitive, prices in the store too. whoever you talk to) does not believe that life in Koenig will ever get better.
    And about the external threat ... We get along well with the Poles and the Lithuanians. Ordinary people don't care about politics.
    And if something happened, our bureaucrats, I think, would gladly surrender the area to NATO-vtsam, and they would crawl away to where the loot had been hidden for a long time. And they do not care. And Moscow, it seems, too.
    Something like that.

    But dear Sambia wrote what the whole of Kaliningrad is talking about. Why is she being downvoted? For the truth? I had to go there several times. I have a lot of good friends and they all say about the same thing! And does this happen only in Kaliningrad? And it’s useless to call Putin, dear Sambia, unless you ask for a dog or a talking doll!
  52. +1
    July 19 2016
    “Not to mention the existence of a fairly modern Danish fleet, despite the fact that Denmark is one of the most Russophobic EU countries.”
    Where do the Danes get such anti-Russian anger? Maybe Russia has “occupied” some Danish territory? Or did she create the Bornholm Democratic Republic? But it would be worth...
    1. +1
      July 19 2016
      Actually, Alexander Nevsky in 1240 broke the Danish knights on the Neva and not the order, Swedish or something else... and before that, the Drang-nach-Osten and the destruction of the Slavs and the Balts during the Arkona era were started by the Danes and they were the most successful in this.

      It’s not like the Germans, even the Norwegians and Swedes, don’t like the Danes.

      they lived mainly by robberies and the Sunda tax, it was simply a nest of bandits and pirates for more than 1000 years, now a third of Danish women work officially at home as prostitutes, and most of them are married.

      The British burned Kolpenhagen under Napoleon and no one in Europe particularly gave a damn about it. Then they hammered them for another 50 years, and still the Danes had to pay a lot of money for the abolition of this duty and free passage.
      they don’t respect anyone, not even strength, and Bismarck’s Prussian soldiers ran races from the Danish vixens
      By the way, the Kiel Canal was dug by the Germans to avoid paying this very duty, and the Swedes dug theirs along the coast, because these creatures sank Swedish ships in the strait with volleys of cannons even near the Swedish coast request Then they tried to get it in the canal! These “interesting things” only ceased in the second half of the 19th century.
      Will someone love and respect you who behaved like this with you for 1000 years and received little in return, that is, was not really punished? Probably not...
      Sweden (also the same) and Norway were colonies of Denmark for centuries; Sweden was liberated relatively long ago, Norway a little over a century ago. Iceland sent them in 1944. Greenland is in the process... but the situation seems to be the other way around - the Eskimos are more annoying to the Danes. lol
  53. 0
    July 19 2016
    It is high time to return to Belarus the original Belarusian territories illegally seized from it in 1944 at Churchill’s request: Bialystok, Bielsk, Augustow and Hainówka.
  54. 0
    July 19 2016
    http://maxpark.com/community/8/content/4903869 - ссылка на статью несколько не в тему, но очень интересная.

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