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Suwalki. Kaliningrad. War?

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At the last NATO summit in Warsaw on 8-9 in July, the bloc members were going to discuss strengthening the eastern borders of the alliance, which include, inter alia, the geographical area under the provisional name Suwalki Corridor - a section of the Polish-Lithuanian border, approximately 65 km in length, stretching from Belarus to Kaliningrad. In the hypothetical scenarios of the military conflict between Russia and NATO, the alliance took the place of a kind of “West Berlin” to this corridor, that is, the most unprotected area in the event of an attack from the East, from Belarus.




For Russians, the question immediately arises why, according to experts of Brussels, the Russian Federation weapons to break through the land route to Kaliningrad, and even through the NATO countries, which will definitely lead to a major conflict? Of course, direct access to the exclave would not hurt, but not at the same price. At the moment, the Russian Federation enjoys the right of land transit to Kaliningrad, and can also deliver cargo by sea or by air through the Baltic, when such transit is difficult. Attacking Poland and Lithuania under normal conditions does not make sense to us.

Therefore, some unusual circumstances are implied. Which ones? Here we turn to the foreign press. For many years, long before the current aggravation of relations associated with Ukraine, she calls the Kaliningrad region a threat and stronghold of Russian militarism. Here it makes sense to recall that in similar formulations the February February 25 Control Council for Germany 1947 decided to liquidate the statehood of Prussia, part of which became part of the USSR. It is not difficult to guess what conclusions the public opinion of the NATO countries is pushing and what this means for us.



Kaliningrad and the Crimea, by virtue of their geographic location, allow Moscow to keep large areas of Europe under military control and, if necessary, to retaliate against them. Therefore, the ardent desire of the “partners” to deprive us of such important advantages is quite obvious. To deny from the Russian Federation the above-named regions is possible only by military means. If NATO takes advantage of a convenient situation and manages to seize Kaliningrad, then there will be no other options for Russia except to create the shortest land corridor with the goal of regaining its own territory. Just through the same Suwalki corridor. By the way, it is in Suwalki that, most likely, one of the American battalions will be deployed. In any case, Warsaw insists on such a configuration, and the Allies did not raise any particular objections.

It is clear that the Baltic countries will also be happy to take an active part in the land and sea part of the blockade of Kaliningrad. Lithuania has already restored the compulsory recruitment to the armed forces, which is understandable: there will be a lot of trained soldiers to curb the Russian offensive.

In the event of a critical aggravation of the situation, Russia will have to forget about the sea route in the Baltic Sea due to the fact that this transport artery will be controlled by a powerful fleet Germany. It became clear why Berlin put so much effort into creating an impressive naval force. Not to mention the existence of a fairly modern Danish fleet, despite the fact that Denmark is one of the most Russophobic EU countries.

Is the threat of such actions by NATO real? Obviously, yes. This scenario is supported not only by the warlike media background and regular NATO exercises in Poland, but also by the reaction of official Moscow. 20 June in Kaliningrad Svetlogorsk held a retreat meeting of the Security Council, after which the leadership of the country initiated a sudden sweep of the leadership of the Baltic Fleet. This also includes the urgent creation of an 11 Army Corps in the exclave in addition to the considerable forces that already exist. Hardly such a massive change is merely a precaution.

Not so long ago, the largest training exercises in many years were held in Poland, in which 31 was involved a thousand military, 3 thousands of ground equipment, 100 airplanes and helicopters, and 12 ships. The name of the teachings received very saying - "Anaconda".

In response, Russia conducted military exercises throughout the northwest, which continue to this day. Bye the ball is on our side. What will answer Brussels, we will know very soon.
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  1. Dr. Bormental
    Dr. Bormental 16 July 2016 18: 18
    +66
    The mess begins, the whole world is in ruins .. we will all burn up in an atomic fire. In a couple of billion years, cockroaches will sit on the VO and discuss whatever it is .. well, type .. ha- haha- you have the nickname Bormental - then you have a short mustache)))
    1. cniza
      cniza 16 July 2016 18: 39
      +21
      I really hope that everything remains only on paper and no conflicts will happen.
      1. Teberii
        Teberii 16 July 2016 18: 57
        +5
        As for trash and the like, everything is not yet clear. But the soil is clearly probed.
        1. Inok10
          Inok10 16 July 2016 19: 09
          +34
          Quote: Teberii
          As for trash and the like, everything is not yet clear. But the soil is clearly probed.

          ... there is nothing to probe ... the answer is obvious ... but, with regards to this writing, especially this one:
          Russia will have to forget about the Baltic Sea route, in the event of a critical exacerbation of the situation, due to the fact that this transport artery will be controlled by a powerful fleet of Germany. It became clear why Berlin had invested so much effort into creating impressive naval forces. Not to mention the existence of a fairly modern Danish fleet, despite the fact that Denmark is one of the most Russophobic EU countries.
          ... then the author would like to remind Russia that Russia has the Double Red Banner Baltic Fleet and coastal defense forces, so WE will control the Baltic with the help of the fleet and coastal anti-ship missile systems "Bal" and "Bastion" ... X-35 in the latter modification flies 280 km. ... a clear map ... hi ... such an impression, hysteria is especially escalating ... already the second nonsense for today ... wink
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 16 July 2016 19: 18
            0
            Thanks to the author for the current article! Everything is stated clearly and clearly.
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 16 July 2016 19: 21
              +26
              Quote: Tatiana
              Thanks to the author for the current article! Everything is stated clearly and clearly.

              as a resident of KO did not see clarity and clarity
              1. Asadullah
                Asadullah 16 July 2016 19: 56
                +11
                as a resident of KO did not see clarity and clarity


                I agree. Full rubbish.
                1. Reserve officer
                  Reserve officer 16 July 2016 20: 08
                  +28
                  An article is a collection of meaningless words. In peacetime, there will be no restrictions on communication with either the Kaliningrad region or the Crimea in principle.
                  And in the event of military conflicts - the prerogative of the General Staff and the High Command, and not graphomaniac journalists and bored pensioners.
                  1. tol100v
                    tol100v 16 July 2016 21: 50
                    +4
                    Quote: Reserve officer
                    And in the event of military conflicts - the prerogative of the General Staff and the High Command,

                    And nothing to add.
                  2. Gorinich
                    Gorinich 17 July 2016 10: 48
                    -4
                    And what do you attribute the blockade to? To peace or to war? For example, NATO countries may well declare the Baltic Sea a zone of their military interests and prohibit the passage of warships and military cargo in the water area. And then what, declare war on NATO?
                    1. Simpsonian
                      Simpsonian 17 July 2016 11: 04
                      +8
                      You can not declare a blockade even if it is called something else (for example, quarantine), this is an act of war.
                      1. Gorinich
                        Gorinich 17 July 2016 11: 21
                        -7
                        Today, a blockade has been declared in Crimea, and this already means the declaration of war in your opinion. Draw conclusions.
                      2. Simpsonian
                        Simpsonian 17 July 2016 18: 39
                        +2
                        Perekom and Chongar are not the only routes to the Crimea, so no.
                        in this case, the blockade was called the fact that the blockade is not
              2. sambia
                sambia 17 July 2016 20: 59
                -4
                So far, I, who was born and living in Könick, see the threat exclusively from our officials - the governor, the mayor and other gangsters who were washed after the 90s, who settled down with their families on budget grandmothers, derban them together with Muscovites, and the people do not know where shout. The media is all under censorship, the Popular Front only on TV brings justice, you can call Putin (on the President's Direct Line). Fraud and poverty reigns, almost like a scoop. Salary is delayed, communal apartment is prohibitive, prices in the store too. whoever you talk to) does not believe that life in Koenig will ever get better.
                And about the external threat ... We get along well with the Poles and the Lithuanians. Ordinary people don't care about politics.
                And if something happened, our bureaucrats, I think, would gladly surrender the area to NATO-vtsam, and they would crawl away to where the loot had been hidden for a long time. And they do not care. And Moscow, it seems, too.
                Something like that.
                1. Simpsonian
                  Simpsonian 17 July 2016 21: 25
                  +1
                  Quote: Sambia
                  in Könick,

                  do not you disgust Grad call this word?
                  1. Anglorussian
                    Anglorussian 17 July 2016 21: 49
                    +2
                    And how EKaterinis the local name Burg?
                    1. Simpsonian
                      Simpsonian 17 July 2016 21: 59
                      +1
                      Depending on the degree of their culture, usually they have a high one.
                    2. Kir1984
                      Kir1984 19 July 2016 06: 58
                      +2
                      ECB like or Yöburg ... wassat our name is his. I personally prefer the full name
                    3. Simpsonian
                      Simpsonian 19 July 2016 07: 05
                      +2
                      For all the time the locals called me E-burg only once with me, and deushka had clear signs of degeneration on the Lits.
                2. sambia
                  sambia 17 July 2016 22: 12
                  -7
                  do not you disgust Grad call this word?

                  Local all so call their hometown, short for Königsberg. I was born here, this is my homeland, as I got used to, I call it that. Calling in honor of the goat Kalinin is disgusting!
                  1. Simpsonian
                    Simpsonian 17 July 2016 22: 21
                    +7
                    It is disgusting to call an enemy name a city abundantly watered with Russian blood.

                    I don't like viburnum, just try "Grad", maybe I will like it ... Or the old Slavic name Krolevets

                    start to put things in order with yourself ... otherwise you live the life you deserve, while without "ovens" ...
                  2. sambia
                    sambia 17 July 2016 22: 35
                    +2
                    You need to know history. Königsberg is the name from the Prussian Kunnegsgarbs (royal mountain), that is, in the language of the indigenous people of this land, and the Prussians are not even Germans, much less fascists.
                    The history of the city is woeful. When the Nazis were draping from here, they didn’t evacuate civilians (think you were all fascists here?), Because after the war our parents survived in ruins along with the surviving Germans - cripples, orphans, and psychiatric patients. When in 1947 the Germans were allowed to leave for Germany, there was almost no one left, they died, the workers didn’t have cards.
                    History is not agnitprop, it is much deeper, wider and wiser))
                  3. Simpsonian
                    Simpsonian 17 July 2016 22: 43
                    +3
                    Koenigsberg is a royal mountain in German, you need to know the language. Prussians - completely destroyed during the crusades by the Germans, the Baltic Slavs.
                    It’s not necessary to drive about the Germans’s extinction here, at least 4,5 million people would be hungry in the western zone of occupation.
                  4. sambia
                    sambia 18 July 2016 08: 42
                    -1
                    Koenigsberg is a royal mountain in German, you need to know the language.

                    read carefully the comment above -
                    Konigsberg title from the Prussian Kunnegsgarbs (royal mountain)

                    the Prussians became extinct ... So what? They became enemies, since you think the old name of the city is ENEMY?
                    Obscurantism.
                    And Kravets is the name of the Royal Castle, and not the city, and Polish.
                    Not the enemy, not?
                    And then, what kind of way to go into the wilds? Essentially nothing to say?
                    Do you think that NATO harms us more than our embezzlers?
                    Or maybe sanctions make people poorer?
                    Nu-nu))
                  5. Simpsonian
                    Simpsonian 18 July 2016 09: 09
                    +1
                    The Prussians were carved by the Germans, to the last. Koenigsberg is in German, in the language of those who shot our soldiers there.

                    This is essentially a worse condition when you have to explain it and do not understand.
                  6. spravochnik
                    spravochnik 18 July 2016 15: 29
                    0
                    History really needs to be known. Firstly, not all of the Prussians were slaughtered, many were assimilated, and secondly, the history of the city totals 761 years, of which the Nazis accounted for only 13 years. That, now cross out everything, all the famous names, including Russians, associated with Konigsberg and the fact that after a seven-year war the city under this name was part of the Russian Empire. Leader, took this kvass pseudo-patriotism.
                  7. Simpsonian
                    Simpsonian 18 July 2016 17: 58
                    0
                    One by one, and according to the papal bull ... Another.
                  8. Simpsonian
                    Simpsonian 18 July 2016 17: 58
                    0
                    One by one, and according to the papal bull ... Another.
          2. mpzss
            mpzss 18 July 2016 10: 07
            +2
            Sorry, but at that time the whole country was in ruins west of the Volga! and everyone lived on the cards! do not distort the story!
        2. Anglorussian
          Anglorussian 17 July 2016 22: 44
          -6
          I do not like viburnum
          Name your dog by the name of Comrade Kalinin. If you would travel across Russia.
        3. Simpsonian
          Simpsonian 17 July 2016 22: 54
          +1
          Quote: Anglorussian
          Name your dog in the name of Comrade Kalinin.

          oh, flowed ...
      2. sambia
        sambia 17 July 2016 22: 52
        +4
        start to put things in order with yourself ... otherwise you live the life you deserve, while without "ovens" ...

        something ignored this speech))
        if the conversation was about the cleanliness of the yards, for example, is another matter!
        but here it is - about the global. About enemies! Of course, I agree, Kaliningrad was surrounded by enemies, but "their" embezzlers are no better. The people believe in Putin, but they hate them. And it does not fit in their heads - Putin seems to be with them, but apparently not? Either they are at the same time, or ... Complete cognitive dissonance! This, you know, undermining the fighting efficiency of the population, disorienting the people in space))
      3. Simpsonian
        Simpsonian 17 July 2016 22: 56
        +1
        matches next to the stove are not a toy for children
      4. Simpsonian
        Simpsonian 17 July 2016 22: 58
        +1
        I don’t like the cleanliness of the yard, take a broom and sweep it, or hire someone yourself, and fire the scammers from the housing and communal services ...
      5. sambia
        sambia 18 July 2016 08: 45
        +1
        virtually everything - advisers and reformers, but in real life - living on the network
        hamsters that do not go out for years.
        You still say that the people themselves are to blame for all their troubles.
        And he is also a chapel ... (C)
      6. Simpsonian
        Simpsonian 18 July 2016 09: 11
        -2
        OK sit in the dirty and carry them your money ...
      7. Simpsonian
        Simpsonian 18 July 2016 09: 11
        0
        OK sit in the dirty and carry them your money ...
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  • pigkiller
    pigkiller 18 July 2016 17: 11
    +1
    write on Ridnoy mov, "normal people".
  • snerg7520
    snerg7520 19 July 2016 17: 05
    0
    This is sambia achedzhaknula, my friend moved to Kaliningrad, happy as an elephant - prices are much lower than in Primorye. And the people there are optimistic.
    PS Isn’t it time to introduce a ban for achedzhakane?
  • snerg7520
    snerg7520 19 July 2016 17: 05
    0
    This is sambia achedzhaknula, my friend moved to Kaliningrad, happy as an elephant - prices are much lower than in Primorye. And the people there are optimistic.
    PS Isn’t it time to introduce a ban for achedzhakane?
  • nesvobodnye
    nesvobodnye 16 July 2016 22: 47
    +2
    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
    clarity and clarity not seen

    What can’t you see here? Katz offers to give up!
    1. sgazeev
      sgazeev 17 July 2016 19: 24
      +1
      Quote: nesvobodnye
      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
      clarity and clarity not seen

      What can’t you see here? Katz offers to give up!

      The Russians do not give up Comrade Katz. soldier
  • Lyubopyatov
    Lyubopyatov 17 July 2016 01: 39
    +9
    Set out clearly, understandably and quite defeatistically. The Germans have a strong fleet, but the spirit is still burgher for a long time: I don't want to die for ΝΑΤΟ. In addition, an attempt to take away the Kaliningrad region from us is tantamount to an invitation to the Germans to take away the southern half of East Prussia from the Poles. It is necessary for our sluggish Foreign Ministry to intensify its work with Germany (not only with the Merkel party, but also with the left opposition) - to agree on the future of cutting off the future Poland (if it survives at all after the war in the Baltic States) from the Baltic Sea: returning the Danzig Corridor to the Germans, and Russia - the Suwalki-Shchitno-Malbork stripes. And now to warn the United States that their aggression in the Baltic will launch our immediate nuclear response across the United States.
  • Khakas19
    Khakas19 16 July 2016 19: 40
    -35%
    To begin with, it would be necessary to teach a soldier to use normally a standard weapon.
    1. Tersky
      Tersky 16 July 2016 20: 20
      +16
      Quote: Khakas19
      To begin with, it would be necessary to teach a soldier to use normally a standard weapon.

      winked Whose soldier, do not specify? Yes, and yet, you can use a weapon instead of a crowbar, a shovel, a paddle for canoeing, etc., but to possess the skills to use it and use it effectively when using a weapon is a completely different matter. Success in the study of materiel soldier !
    2. vovanpain
      vovanpain 16 July 2016 20: 28
      +12
      Quote: Khakas19
      To begin with, it would be necessary to teach a soldier to use normally a standard weapon.

      Damn, dear, I'm in shock ... it turns out that the soldiers do not know how to use regular weapons? belay request Question colleague. Whose soldiers? What is NATO, that we are trained and will show everything. So where are the stupid? belay
    3. bovig
      bovig 16 July 2016 21: 36
      +2
      Quote: Khakas19
      To begin with, it would be necessary to teach a soldier to use normally a standard weapon.

      You judge, obviously, by yourself? What you have not been taught is undoubtedly sad, but not critical and not catastrophic - they can do it without you!))) Perhaps, it’s even better ...
  • Ivan Ivanov
    Ivan Ivanov 17 July 2016 17: 21
    +2
    Quote: Inok10
    with the help of the fleet and coastal anti-ship missile systems "Bal" and "Bastion"
    So far they have not come to you from Poland (Lithuania) and have not thrown off a ball with a bastion at sea.
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  • severniy
    severniy 16 July 2016 19: 15
    +2
    trained soldiers to contain the Russian offensive will require a lot.

    mdyayaya, the Baltic states are still warriors ....
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  • WKS
    WKS 16 July 2016 20: 01
    +22
    Amazing NATO plans. I can imagine how tomorrow NATO begins the invasion of the Kaliningrad region, and the GDP gives the command to convene the UN Security Council !!!, or break a corridor by land into the enclave !!!
    Most likely, another option, in response to the invasion, will be nuclear weapons, and not in the ashes of the invasion, where they are likely to manage on their own. But at the NATO headquarters, command posts, concentration of troops and navy in Europe and the United States, they will play according to the full program. Nobody remembers any Suwalki.
    1. bovig
      bovig 16 July 2016 21: 50
      +2
      Quote: wks
      Amazing NATO plans. I can imagine how tomorrow NATO begins the invasion of the Kaliningrad region, and the GDP gives the command to convene the UN Security Council !!!, or break a corridor by land into the enclave !!!
      Most likely, another option, in response to the invasion, will be nuclear weapons, and not in the ashes of the invasion, where they are likely to manage on their own. But at the NATO headquarters, command posts, concentration of troops and navy in Europe and the United States, they will play according to the full program. Nobody remembers any Suwalki.

      NATO Euro-soldiers are trying to play strategically important games and trying to put themselves in our position ... Only their thinking is straightforward: the shortest path between the two points is the direct connecting them ... Yes, if they manage to provoke a military conflict, then they will a lot of unpleasant surprises and disappointments!))))
    2. asher
      asher 17 July 2016 14: 18
      0
      Nor will they recall some Baltic allies as NATO members. Their elimination will take not hours, but minutes.
  • Starover_Z
    Starover_Z 16 July 2016 21: 42
    +8
    Quote: cniza
    I really hope that everything remains only on paper and no conflicts will happen.

    And it all started with the corrupt union of Germany ...
    1. gorez
      gorez 16 July 2016 22: 29
      +5
      And it seems to me from the betrayal of Gorbachev and Yeltsin and the hedgehog with them.
      1. Weyland
        Weyland 17 July 2016 11: 54
        0
        And it seems to me - from the Burry Pahan am , who invented the "right of nations to self-determination up to secession2 - without this from EBN am and his accomplices am there would be no chance!
      2. Weyland
        Weyland 17 July 2016 11: 54
        -1
        And it seems to me - from the Burry Pahan am , who invented the "right of nations to self-determination up to secession2 - without this from EBN am and his accomplices am there would be no chance!
    2. Monarchist
      Monarchist 17 July 2016 08: 17
      +1
      Here I agree and continued in Pushcha, when they gathered and "figured out for three"
  • hirurg
    hirurg 16 July 2016 21: 46
    +14
    Suwalki is a funny name.
    If something starts, then not only along the Suwalki, but along the Morgalki and the Sniffer NATO will scoop up in full.))))
    1. Yuyuka
      Yuyuka 16 July 2016 22: 35
      +4
      Suwalki is a funny name.
      If something starts, then not only along the Suwalki, but along the Morgalki and the Sniffer NATO will scoop up in full.))))


      good and then you can pull the Blinkers on Suwalki winked
    2. Lyubopyatov
      Lyubopyatov 17 July 2016 01: 47
      +3
      Suwalki is a Russian name. Like Lublin, Przemysl ... Even the "German" Schwerin was founded by the Russians as Zverin. And the name of the island of Rügen is a Russian root with a German ending.
      1. Yuyuka
        Yuyuka 17 July 2016 10: 22
        +3
        Suwalki is a Russian name. Like Lublin, Przemysl ... Even the "German" Schwerin was founded by the Russians as Zverin. And the name of the island of Rügen is a Russian root with a German ending.

        potential aggressors do not even need to study the history of wars with Russia, just look at a map of Russia and read the names - the Russian language is not only powerful, but also very meaningful and accurate. Then I remembered once again about the feat of our soldier -

        July 13, 1941 in battles in the area of ​​the city of Balti, with the delivery of ammunition to his company near the town Arctic fox the machine-gun company of the 389th Infantry Regiment of the 176th Infantry Division of the 9th Army of the Southern Front, Red Army soldier Dmitry Ovcharenko was surrounded by a detachment of 50 enemy soldiers and officers. At the same time, the enemy managed to seize his rifle. However, D.R.Ovcharenko was not at a loss and, grabbing an ax from the wagon, chopped off the head of the officer questioning him, threw 3 grenades at the enemy soldier, killing 21 soldiers. The rest fled in panic. Then he caught up with the second officer and also chopped off his head. The third officer managed to escape. After that he collected documents and maps from the dead and, together with the cargo, arrived at the company on time.


        If the Germans knew about a different meaning of the name of the animal, maybe they would have bypassed it ...
      2. BMP-2
        BMP-2 17 July 2016 10: 55
        0
        Quote: Lyubopyatov
        Suwalki is the Russian name.

        So we are talking about the fact that if the scent is lost, then everything will be purely in Russian! yes
    3. sgazeev
      sgazeev 17 July 2016 20: 00
      0
      Quote: hirurg
      Suwalki is a funny name.
      If something starts, then not only along the Suwalki, but along the Morgalki and the Sniffer NATO will scoop up in full.))))

      If only the Sly One does not drain the Belarusian swamps, it will be "Bagration-2".
  • Rus2012
    Rus2012 16 July 2016 22: 17
    +5
    Quote: cniza
    I really hope that everything remains only on paper and no conflicts will happen.

    Quote: Author Sergey Zbitnev
    For Russians, the question immediately arises, why, according to experts from Brussels, the Russian Federation by force of arms punch the land route to Kaliningrad, and even through NATO countries, which will definitely lead to a major conflict? Of course, direct access to the exclave would not hurt, but not at the same price.


    I don’t know who the author is by profession, but he mixed everything in a heap ...

    In the event of a conflict, our enclave in the form of the Kaliningrad region really appears as an isolated piece of territory that the enemy will try to surround, isolate, defeat and capture.
    BUT!
    According to all international standards, if someone is trying to isolate, cut off the ways of supplying the enclaves in one way or another in peacetime, this is called hostile action and humanitarian crime, and the metropolis may have the right to use force to unblock, cut through corridors.
    Yes, this is war! But fair from the metropolis.
    And all metropolises have such plans by default.
    Knowing this, NATO is trying to strengthen in advance the shortest paths of a possible "breaking through the corridor." And as usual, he makes a mistake in advance, knowing his wrongness and historical practice. And the ignorant authors support them ...
    1. asiat_61
      asiat_61 17 July 2016 04: 10
      +1
      Enclave
      [edit | edit wiki text] Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
      There are other meanings to this term, see Enclave (s).

      C is an exclave of country B in country A, surrounded by the territory of country A. He is also an enclave of country A.
      Enclave (French enclave from lat. Inclavatus - “closed, locked”) - part of the territory of the state, completely surrounded by the territory of another state. Parts of the state, completely surrounded by another (one) country, are called full enclaves. The concept of territory includes both land territory and territorial waters [1].

      The term “enclave” is applied to states only if they are completely surrounded by another (one) country and have no access to the sea. In this case, the concept of “exclave” does not apply at all. There are three such states: the Vatican and San Marino inside Italy, Lesotho inside South Africa. The Maltese Order, which owns an enclave within Italy, also has a number of signs of statehood.

      Semi-Enclave - part of the state, surrounded by the territory of another state on land, but with access to the sea. Enclaves of this type are also called coastal enclaves [2]. Examples of semi-enclave states are Brunei, which is surrounded by Malaysia and the South China Sea, as well as Portugal, surrounded by Spain and the Atlantic Ocean. The semi-enclave is also part of Fort Sant'Angelo in Malta, belonging to the Order of Malta. In states whose main territory is outside the semi-enclave, the territory of the semi-enclave is called half-enclave. Such a semi-enclave (semi-exclave) can be surrounded by the sea and several other countries. In everyday speech, semi-enclaves and semi-exclaves can simply be called enclaves and exclaves [3].

      Contents [remove]
      1 Enclaves and exclaves
      2 Enclave States
      3 Enclave Territories
      4 See also
      5 notes
      6 References
    2. BMP-2
      BMP-2 17 July 2016 10: 57
      0
      If you believe the author, NATO does not take into account the fact that the shortest route is far from always the fastest.
  • SveTok
    SveTok 17 July 2016 08: 58
    0
    What is happening in Europe will continue to continue, the IGL in France will not stop and the only way out for Europeans is to call Russia into allies and not fight with it.
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  • your1970
    your1970 16 July 2016 19: 04
    +8
    "If НАТО take advantage of a comfortable situation and will be able to master Kaliningrad, then for the Russian Federation there will be no other options, except for the creation of the shortest land corridor in order to return its own territory. "- why do we need a corridor to Kaliningrad - if NATO has already burned up in the fire of nuclear weapons (and we will already have fun request ).
    The stubborn word comes in handy for people who seriously discuss - what piece they chop off from the Nuclear Power .....
    They still don’t suspect that in the case of why we will agree with China about a couple of hundreds of millions of Chinese refugees to Europe (we will transport it for free). They will quickly squeeze them out of Europe (in bulk !!!) into the Atlantic Ocean. Reality? It’s quite Europe put a million a year in all poses at once ..... Yes, and China - I think it’s not particularly against (the main thing is that we don’t settled repeat)

    Pah-pah, so as not to jinx it, I’ll dream of this: NATO in Kaliningrad, some kind of corridors ....
    1. berezin1987
      berezin1987 16 July 2016 19: 53
      +11
      Apparently someone wants to share with us the extra territory.
      1. Amurets
        Amurets 17 July 2016 07: 08
        +1
        Quote: berezin1987
        Apparently someone wants to share with us the extra territory.

        The same chatter is in relation to Russian-Chinese relations. A week ago, a similar stuffing was about that. that the PRC is going to conquer the Far East. Khariton has already salted, calling the inhabitants of the Far East separatists and whiteguards.
      2. sgazeev
        sgazeev 17 July 2016 20: 13
        0
        Quote: berezin1987
        Apparently someone wants to share with us the extra territory.

        Vitus Jonassen Bering (1681 - 1741) - navigator, officer of the Russian fleet, captain-commander. By origin Danes. In 1725 - 1730 and 1733 - 1741 led the First and Second Kamchatka expeditions. He walked along the strait between Chukotka and Alaska, reached North America and discovered a number of islands of the Aleutian ridge. Bialystok has been moaning for how many years. According to the Third Section of the Commonwealth (1795) in the Tilsit Peace (1807) it was transferred to Napoleon of the Russian Empire,
  • RDX
    RDX 16 July 2016 19: 10
    +15
    The situation is similar to the one before the Great Patriotic War, the rearmament of the USSR was also carried out, the country also experienced shocks (revolution), the same game of the Poles, the same game of the USA. The civil war in Spain is similar to the war in the Donbass, but there are many different parallel that can be drawn with the present.
    1. aksakal
      aksakal 16 July 2016 19: 48
      +2
      Quote: RDX
      The situation is similar to the one before the Great Patriotic War, the rearmament of the USSR was also carried out, the country also experienced shocks (revolution), the same game of the Poles, the same game of the USA. The civil war in Spain is similar to the war in the Donbass, but there are many different parallel that can be drawn with the present.

      - But then it was a tragedy, a terrible tragedy ...
      And the current situation is a farce and ends in a farce.
      1. Ragoz
        Ragoz 16 July 2016 22: 05
        0
        Smirnov again plays with signs and numbers of comments am
    2. Briz
      Briz 16 July 2016 21: 24
      0
      We could also add that the Baltic Fleet was beheaded ... We are already different, taught ... well, plus we also have nuclear weapons and we are ready to work for them (if what) ... and, by the way, yes - they are also completely others have become, they are now tolerant.
  • dmi.pris
    dmi.pris 16 July 2016 20: 12
    0
    Only for some reason, the cockroaches themselves have gone somewhere. Arnoldovich, probably prepared for the atomic war ..
    Quote: Dr. Bormental
    The mess begins, the whole world is in ruins .. we will all burn up in an atomic fire. In a couple of billion years, cockroaches will sit on the VO and discuss whatever it is .. well, type .. ha- haha- you have the nickname Bormental - then you have a short mustache)))
  • razmik72
    razmik72 16 July 2016 21: 58
    -5
    Quote: Dr. Bormental
    The mess begins, the whole world is in ruins .. we will all burn up in an atomic fire. In a couple of billion years, cockroaches will sit on the VO and discuss whatever it is .. well, type .. ha- haha- you have the nickname Bormental - then you have a short mustache)))

    Yes, you have megalomania, Dr. Bormental, you want to reincarnate in a couple of billion years smile at least in cockroaches. wink Well, not a bad wish.
  • masiya
    masiya 16 July 2016 22: 11
    -1
    and the size will be five meters in length, and the mind is not ours ... only the remains of our tribe will eat ...
  • passing
    passing 16 July 2016 22: 48
    +1
    One thing calms down - we'll take part !! winked
  • Phantom Revolution
    Phantom Revolution 17 July 2016 08: 20
    0
    Quote: Dr. Bormental
    The mess begins, the whole world is in ruins .. we will all burn up in an atomic fire. In a couple of billion years, cockroaches will sit on the VO and discuss whatever it is .. well, type .. ha- haha- you have the nickname Bormental - then you have a short mustache)))

    It seems to me that this cycle has been repeated several times already.
    Perhaps Africa and other underdeveloped countries of the 3 of the world will not be bombed by nuclear weapons, perhaps the resettlement of the African population will be repeated again and twenty-five again.
  • Russki
    Russki 18 July 2016 22: 11
    0
    Do they lie? In any war, there are agreements, no matter how frostbitten they are, they will not use weapons that will lead to the end of the world.
  • Dr. Bormental
    Dr. Bormental 16 July 2016 18: 25
    +2
    People ... where are you all?
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 16 July 2016 19: 20
      +3
      People ... where are you all?

      salt and matches wassat
    2. vovanpain
      vovanpain 16 July 2016 20: 41
      +8
      Quote: Dr. Bormental
      People ... where are you all?

      Come on, Ivan Arnoldych. We will fight here .... quietly. I have charged a cellar. Cognac "Elders" 7-year-old. Colleague Scoundrel suggested a recipe for a snack. request
      1. Dr. Bormental
        Dr. Bormental 17 July 2016 08: 19
        0
        drinks we’ll fight together)))
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  • figwam
    figwam 16 July 2016 18: 26
    +1
    Everyone went to the front.
  • Rezident007
    Rezident007 16 July 2016 18: 26
    +5
    all these NATO chairmen are schizoids ... NATO bases, the US and the EU all over the world are stuck in military bases, but the Kremlin’s hand and Russian aggression seem to them ... Are you out of your mind (rhetorical question)?
    1. Zulu_S
      Zulu_S 16 July 2016 21: 22
      +1
      They are completely out of their mind. And the question of the Russian threat is quite rhetorical for them. It's like ritual dances ...
  • ssergn
    ssergn 16 July 2016 18: 28
    0
    There. Already.
  • svp67
    svp67 16 July 2016 18: 35
    0
    And against this background, the entire management of the Baltic Fleet is completely "retrained". Now is the main time and people who are able to rectify the situation, and with that and with that there are obvious problems ...
    1. figwam
      figwam 16 July 2016 18: 53
      -2
      There has long been inculcated fashion for everything German, judging by the names of cafes, shops, etc. , and the population is accustomed to travel to border countries, the Königsberg district has breathed, the enemy is on the alert.
      1. kytx
        kytx 16 July 2016 19: 08
        +15
        so do not drive. I live here. nothing like that here. yes Kaliningraders pose as Europeans but in a good way. Well, such a joke is such a local, no more. we have no separatist sentiments. I do not speak for individual "jackals". but in general, the mood is patriotic, sometimes even too much, given the general economic depression of the region. because only the military is pumped with loot and the local leadership is full of boots.
        1. figwam
          figwam 16 July 2016 23: 07
          +1
          Quote: kytx
          so do not drive. I live here. nothing like that here. yes Kaliningraders pose as Europeans but in a good way. Well, such a joke is such a local, no more. we have no separatist sentiments. I do not speak for individual "jackals". but in general, the mood is patriotic, sometimes even too much, given the general economic depression of the region. because only the military is pumped with loot and the local leadership is full of boots.

          And here at least drive, at least do not drive, but the Germans have long been working there with the elite
          http://newsbalt.ru/reviews/2016/05/kaliningrad-deutsch-nko/
          and this region just will not be left.
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 16 July 2016 23: 17
            +1
            20 screaming bulk freedom
            By the way, where did you see the "elite"?
          2. saygon66
            saygon66 16 July 2016 23: 46
            +3
            - These were some twenty-five-year-old men from all over the city ... Then they were almost knocked down at the intersection of Mira-Leonov - riot police saved ...
            - And don't be afraid for the "Koenigsberg", really, your like-minded people are working hard on this issue, systematically transforming the beautiful old city into another "Builders' Avenue"! Soon it will be indistinguishable from any residential area of ​​any large city ... It's sad!
            1. figwam
              figwam 17 July 2016 09: 53
              0
              Quote: saygon66

              - And don't be afraid for the "Koenigsberg", really, your like-minded people are working hard on this issue, systematically transforming the beautiful old city into another "Builders' Avenue"! Soon it will be indistinguishable from any residential area of ​​any large city ... It's sad!

              So your city back in 1945, my like-minded people destroyed, invite the Germans, this is their culture, they will bring you beauty and order.
              1. saygon66
                saygon66 17 July 2016 11: 42
                0
                "The culture does not have a national identity! It either exists or does not exist!"
                “It doesn’t matter what the nationality of those who shit on the porches ... and the Germans will not help here.”
                - And everything that was conquered in the 45 for 71 as OUR is NOT GERMAN ... but the destruction of the city continues ... and the good would be built instead of something better than painted multi-colored water-emulsion boxes.
                -
                1. Captain nemo
                  Captain nemo 17 July 2016 11: 58
                  0
                  Quote: saygon66
                  - And everything that was conquered in the 45th year already 71 as OUR - NOT GERMAN

                  "Nashe" is like, what is common between Russians and Poles, what is that?
                  Well, not German Danzig now, but is he really yours at the end of World War II, "Liberator" are you my dear from "fascist aggression"?
                  1. saygon66
                    saygon66 17 July 2016 12: 12
                    +2
                    - In fact, today the Kaliningrad region belongs to the Russian Federation - try to squeeze it!
                    - I didn’t take part in the war with the fascists (unfortunately), I’m young ... But the calls to destroy “all of them” are very reminiscent of the cries of the same patriots in one of the former Soviet republics - they also strive to dismiss every last trace of the past, with that difference, that the past is associated with Russian culture.
                    1. Captain nemo
                      Captain nemo 17 July 2016 12: 34
                      0
                      Quote: saygon66
                      - In fact, today the Kaliningrad region belongs to the Russian Federation - try to squeeze it!

                      And you yourself will not try to "squeeze out" what the Kaliningrad region lacks, otherwise it’s not hard for me, like the Poles, to sit through the whole war in a hut or in a Warsaw apartment, and then dictate my rights on behalf of the “right of nations to self-determination” and to the one who liberated "my" land from the invaders, and to the one who gave me their land?
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                    3. Captain nemo
                      Captain nemo 17 July 2016 13: 06
                      0
                      Quote: saygon66
                      - I did not take part in the war with the Nazis (unfortunately)

                      Yes, do not worry so much about it. After all, it’s not up to you to decide when to live in this world.
                      So, what is "still ahead" for you, but who is your husband, you probably put a cross in December 1993 in the right line. Well, from here Klaipeda and Donbass and Crimea are not ours. And then in 2014 Crimea is Ours,
                      but otherwise the beautiful Marquise is all right, all is well.
                      1. saygon66
                        saygon66 17 July 2016 13: 27
                        0
                        - Alas! He also did not take part in deciding the fate of the Union - he lived in places that had also become non-ours overnight ...
                        - About "squeezing out the missing" I, apparently, misunderstood something ... what -
                        - About "everything is ahead" I agree with you ... here we are the first to butt.
                      2. Captain nemo
                        Captain nemo 17 July 2016 16: 38
                        0
                        Quote: saygon66
                        - Alas! He also did not take part in deciding the fate of the Union - he lived in places that had also become non-ours overnight ...

                        This was decided in the spring of 1991, and not in 1993.
                        Quote: saygon66
                        - About "squeezing out the missing" I, apparently, misunderstood something ...

                        Yes, I also did not understand those "winners" who hung the flag over the Reichstag and it was even cheerful there until 1983, and then, out of need, they measured the Central and Western parts of East Prussia to the "Poles brothers".
                      3. saygon66
                        saygon66 17 July 2016 17: 20
                        0
                        “What did I miss?” What did we have in 93? However, in these events, with all the desire, I could not participate ...
                      4. Simpsonian
                        Simpsonian 17 July 2016 19: 31
                        -1
                        Germans, even from the territory of the GDR, many fled to the west, Germans from Polish lands were settled in the GDR, 2/3 of East Prussia, Pomerania and Silesia were appeased by Poles instead of "Eastern Kresses" so that the USSR would not "look like an aggressor" in the eyes of the world community ... two questions were immediately resolved - demographic and political.
                      5. Simpsonian
                        Simpsonian 17 July 2016 22: 35
                        0
                        a significant part of the German "refugees" later died of hunger in the West, even local
                        there was no less than 4,5 million people in the GDR, there was no hunger, food was distributed by the Soviet Army
                        in the Western zone, the tractor cost 4 kg of butter, but there was no fuel for it, the Anglo-American-French Germans continued to reduce, as before the bombing of selectively living quarters ...
                        they fled there both on foot and the whole Wilhelms of the Gustlows, on which was not written and besides them there were still troops.
                        the bulk went by small fishing vessels
                        you can watch "4 days in May", a pretty realistic movie
                    4. bk316
                      bk316 18 July 2016 00: 21
                      +3
                      Quote: Captain Nemo
                      happy

                      The flag was cheerful, that is, having fun.

                      Quote: Captain Nemo
                      due to unnecessity

                      Needs?


                      Quote: Captain Nemo
                      fascist aggression

                      She aggression ball fascist?

                      Now let's get something about culture ....

                      Now I will cry and go to the branch about the exam ...
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  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 16 July 2016 19: 24
    0
    Quote: figvam
    There has long been inculcated fashion for everything German

    have you been from "there" for a long time? !!!!!
    and what do you think is "used to traveling to border countries" ?!
    1. figwam
      figwam 17 July 2016 10: 21
      +1
      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

      have you been from "there" for a long time? !!!!!
      and what do you think is "used to traveling to border countries" ?!

      And that tens of thousands of Kaliningraders, taking advantage of the "small border traffic", did not go shopping in Poland, leaving millions there, and they even ride to Lithuania.
      1. saygon66
        saygon66 17 July 2016 11: 52
        0
        - And it is true! Therefore, not everyone could afford to shop at the prices that were offered (and offered) in our retail chains.
        - I would love to buy where nito is in Smolensk, and even in Minsk - but try to get there ...
        - And if you really were in Kaliningrad, you could not help but notice that our region is still cut off from the rest of Russia, and little is being done to change this situation.
        1. figwam
          figwam 17 July 2016 14: 12
          0
          Quote: saygon66
          ... we are the first to butt.

          Quote: saygon66
          - And it is true! Therefore, not everyone could afford to shop at the prices that were offered (and offered) in our retail chains.
          - I would love to buy where nito is in Smolensk, and even in Minsk - but try to get there ...
          - And if you really were in Kaliningrad, you could not help but notice that our region is still cut off from the rest of Russia, and little is being done to change this situation.

          The fact of the matter is that you will be the first to get it. To the west, Kaliningrad is like a bone in the throat.
          First, they fed the people with freedom of access to neighboring countries, you quickly get used to good things, and now they will begin to chop off and block everything, so that the people groan and be even more dissatisfied with their power. Your opinion will be manipulated and fueled by the protest mood, then the "guest performers" will gather on the right day and arrange for you a "Maidan" for disconnecting from Russia.
          And the fact that the region is cut off from Russia, it’s yes, you can’t build a bridge to the Crimea.
          1. saygon66
            saygon66 17 July 2016 15: 30
            0
            - laughing It was only Madame Zemlyachka who could agitate "for revolution" in the barracks ...
            - Only then the people were simpler and the "countrywomen" were bolder.
            - It seems that it’s not the agitated agitators who will ruin us, but their idiots in power - from those who are well with money stolen from the state everywhere ...
          2. a housewife
            a housewife 18 July 2016 16: 53
            0
            Maybe dig a tunnel?
          3. a housewife
            a housewife 18 July 2016 16: 53
            0
            Maybe dig a tunnel?
  • Simpsonian
    Simpsonian 16 July 2016 18: 58
    0
    If Denmark is such a Russophobic country, why would we give them to Bornholm? Sweden is no less Russophobic and its armed forces are more serious. In which case, it will formally or informally join NATO against Russia. No matter how impressive the German Navy has in the Baltic puddle, everything is drowned by aviation and anti-ship missile systems, they pose the main threat to Russian ships in the event of a conflict, which will make communication through the Baltic Sea impossible.
    1. Simpsonian
      Simpsonian 16 July 2016 19: 04
      +1
      Or it was necessary to demand from this country the demilitarization of this island, perhaps even to place a base on it themselves. Now she would be unprotected, but still would not hurt ...
      1. Simpsonian
        Simpsonian 16 July 2016 19: 17
        0
        By the way, during the USSR, this island in my opinion had a demilitarized status.
        1. Simpsonian
          Simpsonian 16 July 2016 20: 01
          +8
          this was (and the base would be) a completely justifiable demand - Denmark fought with the Nazis for two hours (the armed forces were 15 thousand people, they lost 16 people killed), then only 2 Danes fought against the USSR in the Danish SS corps for more than 6000 years, after it was disbanded spread over other buildings in which Danish soldiers were also.

          During the landing on the island of Bornholm and its liberation from the Nazis, 90 Soviet soldiers died.
          1. Simpsonian
            Simpsonian 16 July 2016 20: 05
            0
            Until the autumn of 1943, no one even disarmed the "surrendered" Danish army!
    2. Orionvit
      Orionvit 16 July 2016 20: 22
      +6
      Sweden is no less Russophobic and its armed forces are more serious. In which case, it will formally or informally join NATO against Russia.
      Well, if you really want to be a target, let them abut, only then do not complain too much. Let them not think of serving time as in the Second World War, with their fake neutrality.
      1. Zulu_S
        Zulu_S 16 July 2016 21: 30
        +1
        Since the time of Karl, the Swedes have had the "Poltava syndrome". They declare a jamb of sprats a Russian submarine.
  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 16 July 2016 19: 23
    0
    Quote: svp67
    And against this background, it is completely "overfused"

    on time "fucked up" is not even bad, here is Pavlova before the war not that, but if that, then wow
    1. Simpsonian
      Simpsonian 16 July 2016 20: 10
      +1
      And in Denmark, the most terrible women and a third of Danes officially earn money as prostitutes, such a country ...
      1. Anglorussian
        Anglorussian 16 July 2016 20: 33
        -4
        And also in Denmark
        Have you been there though? tongue
        1. Simpsonian
          Simpsonian 16 July 2016 22: 31
          0
          You didn’t look at the faces and did everything else with them there?
        2. Simpsonian
          Simpsonian 16 July 2016 22: 34
          0
          Probably because they do not like that these fears Russo tourists ignore. lol
          1. Simpsonian
            Simpsonian 16 July 2016 22: 37
            0
            And since ignore, where does the beauty and healthy blood come from? Northern Italians are the most beautiful young ladies in Europe, and all because the Russians and Poles stolen by the Crimean Tatars to Istanbul were bought mainly by Italian merchants.
            1. Anglorussian
              Anglorussian 16 July 2016 22: 59
              0
              Northern Italians are the most beautiful young ladies in Europe
              And where does infa come from? Been to Italy? Or somewhere else in Europe? No.
              1. Simpsonian
                Simpsonian 16 July 2016 23: 13
                0
                From Italian merchants ... Europe borders Asia on the Ural Mountains, further south along the Ural River, Capia and the Caucasus Mountain Range

                there was made a "discovery" (obviously not the University of Nuuk) that the Greenlad Eskimos are also the most degenerate nation, can there be Danes who colonized them with that? lol
                1. Anglorussian
                  Anglorussian 16 July 2016 23: 19
                  0
                  From Italian merchants.
                  That was never there but infa from patriotic resources. And I have been several times (and these people live and meet in London) And I declare that all your stories are for the internal consumption of pseudo-patriots.
                  The Danes who colonized them at that?
                  Danes and Inuit practically do not start mixed families. It’s not accepted and that’s all.
                  1. Simpsonian
                    Simpsonian 16 July 2016 23: 49
                    0
                    It’s not your business where anyone was ... you talked with Italian merchants or living in London (I found something to be proud of, along with the New York and Detroit the most depressed region in the Anglophon world for losers) only hang up in VO to troll, set minuses and about patriots write badly?

                    tell about the families of this third of Danish prostitutes
                    1. Anglorussian
                      Anglorussian 16 July 2016 23: 58
                      -2
                      the most depressed region in the Anglophon world for losers
                      Did you come up with it yourself? No, I'm just curious? Maybe I got acquainted with the prices of real estate?
                      and writing about patriots is bad?
                      You are not a patriot, you are a clown discrediting patriotism.
                      It's none of your business where who was
                      It’s just mine in this case, because you need to argue about the taste of oysters with those who ate them, and not with experts at the Wikipedia level. I have a growing suspicion that you know about the world abroad thanks to TV and tabloids. I guessed?
                    2. Simpsonian
                      Simpsonian 17 July 2016 00: 05
                      0
                      No, everyone knows except you lol
                      And they sell and buy a lot of it at such prices? In Moscow they say even higher.

                      clown is you

                      nobody argues with you, have you even cleaned them?
                    3. Anglorussian
                      Anglorussian 17 July 2016 02: 50
                      -1
                      And they sell and buy a lot of it at such prices?
                      Yes many. And they live in London, and all the losers. Besides you, naturally your hole is closer to you. And naturally, genes from Russia are responsible for beauty. Are you trying to console yourself?
                      did you even clean them?
                      Yes, it is not interesting to me, because it is available. The question is once again, was it over the hill or according to eyewitnesses desu gonish?
                    4. Simpsonian
                      Simpsonian 17 July 2016 03: 09
                      -1
                      The hole (waxing hole) where the socks are washed in the same from which they wash, is closer to you.
                      Go and comfort yourself in a pub with beer with 1/3 of the Danes' husbands - they are all aware of what their wives are officially doing, and this is normal for "non-degenerate" people, maybe even one of them or whom will offer you something ...
                    5. Anglorussian
                      Anglorussian 17 July 2016 03: 14
                      0
                      socks are washed in the same wash
                      Erase here in the washing machine, so less water leaves. And washed under running water for the past 80 years.
                      husbands 1/3 Danes - they all know what their wives are doing
                      Do you really believe that? Once again, was in Denmark?
                    6. Simpsonian
                      Simpsonian 17 July 2016 03: 19
                      0
                      You've seen? Do they wash the dishes?

                      I know ... once again it will be - "have you been in a Danish brothel with every third prostitute"? lol
                    7. Anglorussian
                      Anglorussian 17 July 2016 03: 27
                      -1
                      Have you looked? Do they wash the dishes?
                      Do not believe it, yes. I live here and see that an automatic machine is used for washing, a Euro-mixer for washing (as they are called here), and dishes in the kitchen in the sink can be done with your hands. As elsewhere, in a word.
                      "you were in a Danish brothel with every third prostitute
                      Have you even reached Denmark? To see how it is? By the way, the brothels are illegal there, and with raids on them they catch bearers of beautiful genes with enviable regularity ... Actually, less than half of the Danes actually are, according to statistics. According to the same statistics, there are about 6000 prostitutes in total
                    8. Simpsonian
                      Simpsonian 17 July 2016 03: 44
                      -1
                      In an English family?

                      Have you already entered the Sharia?
                      They are usually on call, go to their house (with her husband alive). yes
                    9. Anglorussian
                      Anglorussian 17 July 2016 03: 48
                      -1
                      In an English family?
                      Have you already entered the Sharia?
                      Unsubscribe, patriot.
                    10. Simpsonian
                      Simpsonian 17 July 2016 03: 54
                      0
                      google "prostitution in Denmark", "Swedish family" (and their%), well, about English hygiene, islander, otherwise you don't know who you live with crying
                    11. Anglorussian
                      Anglorussian 17 July 2016 14: 43
                      0
                      google "swedish family"
                      So yours from porn sites! You should have said so from the start.
                      about English hygiene, an islander, otherwise you don’t know among whom you live
                      I just know. Do you know what is happening not in Russia? Everything is bad?
                      google "prostitution in Denmark"
                      Google There are about 6000 of them in the country, more than half are foreigners.
                    12. Simpsonian
                      Simpsonian 17 July 2016 22: 15
                      0
                      Was it written? Or immediately got to see the pictures?

                      Well, if you know - tell me, what are the differences?

                      Probably the rest took advantage of the "right to be forgotten." lol
                2. Simpsonian
                  Simpsonian 17 July 2016 04: 04
                  -1
                  Quote: Anglorussian
                  Unsubscribe, patriot.

                  you forgot to put quotes, although you can be seen without it with all sorts of "holes"

                  even the Germans cannot stand the Danes.
            2. Simpsonian
              Simpsonian 17 July 2016 04: 17
              0
              Quote: Anglorussian
              and dishes in the kitchen in the sink can be and hands. As elsewhere, in a word.

              and in the sink with your hands exactly how?
              "like everywhere else" - not like in Russia ... lol
            3. Simpsonian
              Simpsonian 17 July 2016 04: 18
              0
              although some people in Russia "wash" this way, they have seen it, but rarely ...
            4. Anglorussian
              Anglorussian 17 July 2016 14: 46
              0
              although some people in Russia "wash" this way, they have seen it, but rarely ...
              But how do they wash dishes in Russia? (Given the fact that 10 million Russians can afford a trip abroad)
            5. Simpsonian
              Simpsonian 17 July 2016 22: 11
              0
              Well, you type came to England from Russia, so you should know?
              or have you never left any other country? lol
            6. Anglorussian
              Anglorussian 17 July 2016 22: 47
              0
              you type came to England from Russia, then you should know?
              Well, 17 countries in the long run have a look. And how many people have been brought to know, also from everywhere. So I kind of know.
            7. Simpsonian
              Simpsonian 17 July 2016 22: 55
              -1
              That is, less than half the states were? Well, write ...
            8. Anglorussian
              Anglorussian 17 July 2016 23: 00
              -1
              So far, it was only in one state, New York. And you?
            9. Simpsonian
              Simpsonian 17 July 2016 23: 04
              0
              Who would doubt that from London and to the state of New York! But what was not in Detroit? there is even cooler ...
            10. Anglorussian
              Anglorussian 17 July 2016 23: 14
              0
              Next year I will go to Seattle. I’ll probably stop by Detroit.
            11. Simpsonian
              Simpsonian 17 July 2016 23: 20
              0
              Do not delay, Seattle wants to secede, no matter what winked
            12. Anglorussian
              Anglorussian 17 July 2016 23: 32
              0
              And they are just the field of the Yellowstone eruption and depreciation of the dollar will separate. Thursday after rainfall and whistling cancer on the mountain. And what will happen when alakh dengi konchutsa?
            13. Simpsonian
              Simpsonian 17 July 2016 23: 49
              0
              They want to be in time before yellowstone, so as not to be like Detroit lol
            14. Anglorussian
              Anglorussian 18 July 2016 00: 03
              0
              Well, as the cancer whistles, so they will separate. In any case, they will let me in without a visa.
            15. Simpsonian
              Simpsonian 18 July 2016 00: 15
              0
              And now they are letting you into Turkey with a visa? bully
            16. Anglorussian
              Anglorussian 18 July 2016 00: 20
              0
              They let me go without her. I just don’t need it. (This is abroad for Russians in Chinese leather jackets) And where have you been allowed to go?
            17. Simpsonian
              Simpsonian 18 July 2016 00: 25
              0
              Why not? Are there such beaches in England? bully
            18. Anglorussian
              Anglorussian 18 July 2016 01: 48
              0
              In Cornwall. And in Dorset. They even make wine and tea.
            19. Simpsonian
              Simpsonian 18 July 2016 02: 00
              0
              On the beaches? well done ...
            20. Anglorussian
              Anglorussian 18 July 2016 02: 09
              0
              On the beaches? well done ...
              If only I read. And then the wrong one has gone now. By God, sometimes there’s no interest.
            21. Simpsonian
              Simpsonian 18 July 2016 04: 52
              0
              Let me tell you what other smart beaches you have. bully
              Caution spoiler
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB4vcOjBAmU
              and "Goblin" laughing
  • polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 17 July 2016 16: 12
    -1
    The border from the Caspian Sea runs along the Kumo-Manych depression and the channel of the Don River to the city of Azov.
    1. Simpsonian
      Simpsonian 17 July 2016 19: 17
      0
      It's funny that in the USSR they always measured on the main Caucasian ridge.
  • Anglorussian
    Anglorussian 16 July 2016 23: 00
    0
    these fearotin Russo tourists ignore
    With accuracy to the contrary, it is correctly noticed laughing
    1. Simpsonian
      Simpsonian 16 July 2016 23: 08
      0
      your accuracy is the other way around - even their own de peasants ignore them, prefer each other more
      1. Anglorussian
        Anglorussian 16 July 2016 23: 22
        +1
        peasants ignore their own, they prefer each other more
        You should go to a sex therapist for fear of gay invasion, you will completely go crazy, Polygraph Poligrafovich ...
        1. Simpsonian
          Simpsonian 17 July 2016 00: 02
          0
          Do not forget to drink pills from your head with fish and chips, among those you just live more
          1. Anglorussian
            Anglorussian 17 July 2016 02: 51
            0
            among such people you live more
            And in Russia, everything is stapled, right? I wish I looked in the mirror.
            1. Simpsonian
              Simpsonian 17 July 2016 03: 08
              +1
              Something like that. Zadornov about English "hygiene" see more often ... there is about what is under it.
            2. Anglorussian
              Anglorussian 17 July 2016 03: 16
              +1
              Zadornov about English "hygiene" see more often
              And I thought, where are you taking such info. belay Well, yes, Zadornov is indisputable authority. I also recommend Petrosyan, he’s even a ray. Awareness is greater.
            3. Simpsonian
              Simpsonian 17 July 2016 03: 25
              0
              Zadornov still does not know everything ...
            4. Mikhail Krapivin
              Mikhail Krapivin 17 July 2016 12: 52
              +3
              Girls, do not quarrel.
            5. Simpsonian
              Simpsonian 17 July 2016 18: 46
              0
              Malcheg, you are not in the subject lol go play your toys

              Uncle was warned that the Eskimos in Greenland had barbecue that he didn’t go to your Fiji because he considers himself the most erudite person on all issues because he lives in London laughing
            6. Anglorussian
              Anglorussian 17 July 2016 18: 48
              0
              considers himself more erudite
              I’m not more erudite, but you’re absolutely blinded. Yes, and false to the same. Teaches me how it is in London ... In a smoking room, tell such tales.
            7. Simpsonian
              Simpsonian 17 July 2016 22: 08
              0
              Since you do not know how to truly even in London (as well as in Denmark, Greenland), the big question is whether you really are there ...
              Maybe "Sherlock Homes with Doctor Watson" looked at the Baltic states with its relatively beautiful architecture, you confuse this "place" laughing
  • Igor V
    Igor V 16 July 2016 18: 45
    +10
    This is not the first time recently I have heard of great forces in Kaliningrad. Somewhat puzzling, because I see something one, then the other part disappears. The new case incorporates existing connections, which does not increase strength. If, finally, our tops thought about defense, then at least it calms.
    The fact is that under an agreement with Europe, troops should be located no closer than 50 kilometers from the border. We get only the axis of Kaliningrad - Gusev, and of the Zemland Peninsula. So you can’t deploy many troops here.
    1. Rezident007
      Rezident007 16 July 2016 18: 48
      -15%
      Quote: Igor V
      This is not the first time recently I have heard of great forces in Kaliningrad. Somewhat puzzling, because I see something one, then the other part disappears. The new case incorporates existing connections, which does not increase strength. If, finally, our tops thought about defense, then at least it calms.
      The fact is that under an agreement with Europe, troops should be located no closer than 50 kilometers from the border. We get only the axis of Kaliningrad - Gusev, and of the Zemland Peninsula. So you can’t deploy many troops here.

      Do you still like to play "toy soldiers"?
      1. Igor V
        Igor V 16 July 2016 19: 00
        +3
        Yes, you certainly know better from Saratov.
        1. Simpsonian
          Simpsonian 16 July 2016 20: 44
          -4
          Maybe they have his tin? laughing
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    3. weksha50
      weksha50 16 July 2016 19: 23
      +1
      Quote: Igor V
      you can’t deploy many troops here.


      But is it necessary to keep a lot of troops in the Kaliningrad exclave?
      All of them will be subjected to the first and - quite unexpected blow ... And quite possibly - destroyed ...

      Let's be realist pragmatists ...

      It seems to me that you need to hold a small amount of strength there, so only to play with your muscles a little ...

      But this is purely my personal opinion ...
      1. Igor V
        Igor V 16 July 2016 23: 02
        0
        For many years, Lithuanians and Poles have been screaming about the Russian threat, but they border Russia only in the Kaliningrad region. To keep few troops here means to provoke scumbags, which, in principle, took place until the recent past. Having created a powerful fist here, you can only make him think about the consequences with his presence. In the event of hostilities, it will be very difficult to strengthen the grouping from the outside.
        By the way, the NATO members are training in counteracting the cutting of the corridor in the KO at a number of recent exercises. Not so simple.
  • Bayonet
    Bayonet 16 July 2016 18: 48
    -5
    Suwalki. Kaliningrad. War?
    Quote: Resident007
    and they see the Kremlin’s hand and Russia's aggression ...

    In someone, the whole war seems to be! With such headings it would be more careful.
    1. Simpsonian
      Simpsonian 16 July 2016 19: 02
      +1
      Transnistria and Russian troops are blocked in it, and the blockade is an act of war - casus belli.
      1. Simpsonian
        Simpsonian 16 July 2016 20: 43
        +1
        The blockade of Transnistria is in one direction - the Russian military are released from there, but they are not allowed there, but it is still a blockade ... Someone would try to "joke" with the Americans like that.
        From the side of Ukraine - a total blockade.
        It would be useful to recall that during the time of Suvorov, the border with their protectorate was on the Dniester, and for Moldova, the Dniester region on the jelly itself is Transdniestria, it was transferred to the Moldavian SSR in 1939 as an appendage to Bessarabia after its former under Romania 19 years selected back and this very MSSR was formed. Prior to this, the border between Rouge and the USSR was again along the Dniester.
        PMR is the choice of the people as a means of protection from the Romanian Natsik. But of course, yes - 70% is a tidbit and therefore the Romanian nationalists of Moldova immediately hinted that without the PMR, although it is beyond the Dniester, they do not want to see Moldova as part of Great Romania. One was not taken into account - that most Moldovans (not only in Transdniestria) do not like Romanians. laughing
    2. Orionvit
      Orionvit 16 July 2016 20: 39
      +1
      In someone, the whole war seems to be! With such headings it would be more careful.
      You still do not understand who is imagining? Who shouts the most about Russian "aggression" and, under ridiculous pretexts, is deploying offensive missile weapons on the borders with Russia? Who has always started wars? Russia? Who claims that the main goal of the West is the destruction of Russia and Russians in general? Read Western publications, the headlines there are generally awkward, and they are not shy with their expressions. And no one is dreaming of anything, the war against Russia has been going on for a long time (many centuries), and practically never stopped. The only question is when this war will once again turn into a hot phase.
      1. Bayonet
        Bayonet 16 July 2016 21: 11
        -3
        Quote: Orionvit
        Read Western publications,

        Enough to read the comments of hot goals in the VO! winked
  • lukke
    lukke 16 July 2016 18: 49
    +13
    While the ball is on our side. What Brussels will answer, we will find out very soon.
    something illogical conclusion - if we have the ball - answer us, not Brussels. And what should we "answer" ?! Only building a strong state with a strong economy and an army is, in my opinion, the only answer. Not even an answer, but the only form of survival for our civilization. Everything else is immediate benefits and delays)
    1. Onotollah
      Onotollah 16 July 2016 19: 50
      +2
      The Chinese are great in this regard. The situation in the South China Sea clearly shows the advantage of such a position.
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 16 July 2016 18: 54
    +14
    The situation is vaguely reminiscent of the 39th year and the Polish freaks with the Danzing Corridor. That, in general, and provoked Germany to defeat Poland. Among other things. Poles are real provocateurs. In the 38th, the Teshin region was chopped off from Czechoslovakia, in the 39th they signed an agreement with England and France on mutual defense - and immediately they began to provoke the Germans that they would take Danzing away. They blocked the Danzing corridor - and got a complete defeat ... but history teaches nothing arrogant. Give them Kaliningrad? So there you can reach Warsaw laughing
    1. Simpsonian
      Simpsonian 16 July 2016 19: 13
      +4
      Polish freaks along the corridor had nothing to do with it - the Nazis steadily went to war with the USSR on the path to which Poland had been since 1937

      the Poles simply needed a defensive alliance with Stalin (who had shot Tukhachevsky and his gang taking Warsaw), but the clever and brave Pilsudsky, who would have had enough of all this to take such a decision, had already died.

      the current entry of the Poles into NATO is also no reason - from whom are they seeking protection, from Belarus?
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 19 July 2016 11: 43
        0
        Quote: Simpsonian
        Polish freaks along the corridor had nothing to do with it - the Nazis steadily went to war with the USSR on the path to which Poland had been since 1937

        Polish freaks just to do with it. Because if not for them, then there was a non-illusory chance of the union of Poland and the Reich against the USSR. In the end, the Poles shared the Germans with Czechoslovakia. But the Poles did not agree with the Germans on the issue of concessions by Germany for the corridor.
        Plus, Poland imagined itself to be a power capable of pursuing an independent policy - and therefore tried to sit on three chairs right away, balancing between France / Britain, the Reich and the USSR.
        1. Simpsonian
          Simpsonian 19 July 2016 20: 15
          +1
          No one in the USSR would have waited for German troops to pass through Poland and the "eastern Kresses" occupied by it to the old Soviet border, which actually happened in 1939 (both with Poland and with Finland, which took the German side)
          Since 1938, Poland has already had no place in German politics, it just stood in the way ...
    2. berezin1987
      berezin1987 16 July 2016 20: 42
      0
      For us, the situation is better now. Russia today has the world's largest arsenal of nuclear weapons, so let them immediately put on white slippers.
  • Simon
    Simon 16 July 2016 18: 58
    +2
    If NATO takes advantage of the convenient situation and manages to take over Kaliningrad, then for the Russian Federation there will be no other options. How is it that there are no options? There is also a very good option - it is a preemptive missile strike at the barracks of these battalions, for example, with "Caliber". We already have experience.
  • prior
    prior 16 July 2016 19: 01
    +3
    It is high time for this NAT to be put in the pose "mom washes the floor". She is not touched - she begs herself.
    Talking nonsense, disgusted to listen.
    An example is China, which in the South China Sea showed a price to international agreements and
    Hague gays in robes. "Dragon" said mine and nobody croaks.
  • ALABAY45
    ALABAY45 16 July 2016 19: 10
    +1
    "... As long as the ball is on our side ..."
    In the light of recent sports events, I wouldn’t get excited ...! wink Nobody noticed that the uniform of potential "invaders" is brand new, with shop tags ... Even if I try to go out on moose in old, tattered "overalls", from which my wife has gag reflexes when I confuse home refrigerator and chest at the base ... We have moose ... In Europe, war ... Kindergarten! smileTrue, an adult ...
  • Sergey-8848
    Sergey-8848 16 July 2016 19: 24
    0
    The Fulda corridor also occupied forty years a lot of space on the maps and in the heads of the generals. Being both real and fictitious, it ensured employment for many military leaders on both sides for the entire duration of the confrontation. But then we had a GSVG (not a fist, but a sledgehammer). What are they afraid of now?
  • Ilja2016
    Ilja2016 16 July 2016 19: 26
    +2
    "In the event of a critical aggravation of the situation, Russia will have to forget about the sea route through the Baltic due to the fact that this transport artery will be controlled by the powerful German fleet."
    But what about Suvorov's: "To beat not by number, but by skill"?
    1. berezin1987
      berezin1987 16 July 2016 19: 47
      0
      So the Germans will rake again. If desired, we can easily destroy not only the German fleet, but also Germany itself as a state. Lovers of sausages play with fire.
  • ML-334
    ML-334 16 July 2016 19: 42
    0
    I would like to discuss with you one topic, as soon as preparations for the launch of rockets began, all satellites were blinded, what will happen? Your opinion!
    1. Orionvit
      Orionvit 16 July 2016 20: 17
      +9
      I would like to discuss with you one topic, as soon as preparations for the launch of rockets began, all satellites were blinded, what will happen? Your opinion!
      In the event of the loss of the satellite constellation, the States and NATO will really go blind, they have all GPS-based guidance systems. On the other hand, a mass of somewhat "outdated" weapons remained in Russia. For example, the Kh-55 cruise missiles, in which the navigation system generally works on the principle of scanning the terrain, and does not need satellites. There are a lot of such examples. It is also necessary to take into account the training of military personnel. I don't know how it is now, but in the 80s. my father told me about the teachings of the armies of the Warsaw Pact countries, in which he had a chance to participate. During the artillery firing, everyone seemed to cope, but when the commander ordered to hide the calculators, it turned out that all the gunners of the friendly armies were not capable of combat. The Soviets did an excellent job with all the calculations of shooting with a pencil and paper, the maximum slide rule. This is also one example, even if you do not take into account the natural ingenuity of the Russian man. I hope that the Soviet school in the Russian Armed Forces is not forgotten. If you take the Western military, then take away his companions, take a roll of toilet paper, deprive him of a hot lunch, and take them with your bare hands. They are puffed up, because they have not had a strong enemy for a long time, they can only bomb the aborigines.
      1. ML-334
        ML-334 17 July 2016 08: 05
        0
        Thank you for the informative answer.
  • UVB
    UVB 16 July 2016 19: 43
    +1
    If NATO takes advantage of a convenient situation and manages to take over Kaliningrad,
    The question is, who will succeed faster, to capture the Kaliningrad or Russia, to break through the corridor through Lithuania. It is unlikely that the RF Armed Forces will wait for the capture.
    1. berezin1987
      berezin1987 16 July 2016 19: 58
      +8
      The question should be posed wrong. Which is faster: Poles and Germans will take Kaliningrad, or Russian aviation will strike at Berlin and Warsaw with cruise missiles. And I wouldn’t envy labuses at all, let them get ready to meet the polar fox.
  • APASUS
    APASUS 16 July 2016 19: 54
    +4
    The Baltic is a puddle on a global scale, so that in the event of an aggravation of the situation no one will control it completely. With the help of coastal complexes it is quite possible to control it. So it’s still not clear who will have to suffer more, such countries as Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia can generally forget what trade in the sea looks like, and given their lack of oil and gas, they will die of boredom! laughing fellow laughing
  • Orionvit
    Orionvit 16 July 2016 19: 55
    +5
    despite the fact that Denmark is one of the most Russophobic EU countries.
    Why are they there? What side does Denmark generally relate to Russia? They don’t even know how Russians look. Three countries are threatening there from beyond the sea, the heroes are fighting pancakes. Or do they think they will close the flood zone? The Turks, too, have always dreamed of covering the Bosphorus for their whole lives. Do not dig another hole.
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  • BOB044
    BOB044 16 July 2016 20: 02
    +2
    I wonder who from Suwalki decides to stick something to Russia. Then there will be no Suwalki not the state of Suwalki. and there will be an empty planet Earth. I hope there are no fools to start this all. hi
  • SCHWERIN
    SCHWERIN 16 July 2016 20: 15
    +1
    The Germans blocked the Baltic. the sea in two rows pls and all. Our BF submarines showed miracles of heroism breaking through them. Massively perished.
    For the German fleet - minefields. By the way, Admiral Kolchak put them at that time. 2nd world. It is a pity that fate set him up.
    But the surface fleet is vulnerable. Let's remember "Bismarck". Super fortress. Swordfish destroyed. One torpedo from this "maize"
    1. Retvizan
      Retvizan 17 July 2016 10: 47
      0
      The torpedo hit the stern, LC could not move to Brest. Finished it surface ships. Under water left because of self-flooding.
      Surface ships are all vulnerable to aviation ... proven throughout 2MB and other wars.
      But the expression is not entirely accurate.
  • jaroff
    jaroff 16 July 2016 20: 20
    +6
    In my opinion, everything is quite simple. For NATO, the main thing is that, in case of conflict, not a single strike aircraft take off from KO airfields.
    For the Russian Federation, it is necessary that aerodromes in airspace have been reliably closed by air defense systems, both from land and from the sea.
    After all, there is no need for nuclear weapons to take off and strike with conventional UR-VP from Berlin, Brussels, and, of course, Warsaw.
    1. berezin1987
      berezin1987 16 July 2016 20: 46
      0
      Nothing will stop Russia from striking at these cities with several hundred X-55СM cruise missiles.
  • GABALIS
    GABALIS 16 July 2016 20: 54
    +3
    If Russia captures Suwalki, then the Lithuanian scribe :) In Suwalki, the floor of Lithuania is sold, if not all of Lithuania. wink
  • SPB.RU
    SPB.RU 16 July 2016 20: 56
    0
    Poking them in these Suwalki?
  • mvnmln
    mvnmln 16 July 2016 21: 03
    +1
    We are peaceful people, but our armored train ...
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 16 July 2016 21: 11
    +1
    The Balts really should sit quietly under the bunk. Russia can "have a bite" overland communication with NATO in a couple of hours, and the battalion will not close here. To be supplied by sea past Kaliningrad is not funny ... Maybe their hysterical barking is connected precisely with this - cold, sticky sweat, which they cover at one thought ... People do many stupid things out of fear.
  • Prince of Pensions
    Prince of Pensions 16 July 2016 21: 15
    0
    strengthening at the western borders of the Russian Federation, this decision is not able to change the balance of military forces in the region, including due to the numerical superiority of the Russian Armed Forces, the authors of the article are convinced.
    If journalists measure pipyr today, what will happen tomorrow?
    Any number will not work) At least not measure. Bury.
  • thinker
    thinker 16 July 2016 21: 47
    +2
    Translation of the heading Gazeta Polska, in the picture - “NATO warns - Poland is the region most vulnerable to threats after Donbass” fool
  • Mcarrow
    Mcarrow 16 July 2016 21: 49
    +2
    Do not Suwalki remember WWII Klaipeda Liepaja Riga, then everywhere
  • atamankko
    atamankko 16 July 2016 23: 01
    +1
    The situation is rather complicated, let's hope that the mind wins.
    1. yuriy55
      yuriy55 17 July 2016 04: 04
      0
      Long live the mind, let the insanity disappear ?! lol What do you mean? This is not about our politicians. They learned how to express correctly and do absolutely mediocre things ... Or do you have a bunch of examples when the work started was brought to a victorious end? without looking at how they think "on the side"? You forgive me, weaklings and mediocrities constantly need advice from outsiders and other people's help ...
      hi
  • Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 17 July 2016 05: 22
    +3
    1982 year. Europe under the fifth ATS; NATO in horror = USA feverishly rivets nuclear weapons as the only defense against terrible communists. The war did not happen.

    2016 year. There is no ATS (like the USSR); Europe under the fifth of NATO; This annoys Russia = it is urgent to rivet nuclear weapons, as much as possible, as the only guarantor against violent democratization. And war, hopefully, will not happen - if modern nuclear submarines hide under the ice of the Arctic Ocean; the deadly silent diesel-electric submarines will sneak into the waters of the Gulf of Mexico "Barguzins" will hide in the boundless expanses of the Motherland, and the deadly "Sarmatians" with 4202 warheads will hide in the silo "Voevod".
  • Bramb
    Bramb 17 July 2016 05: 56
    +2
    Is that really serious ?!)))
    65 km is, like, a threat to Russia?))))
    Here, I, for example, a peaceful person, look at the map and our open spaces are 8 thousand (THOUSAND !!!) kilometers. And then only 65 km ... What do I think? And any normal person thinks: "Why is this our Kaliningrad land not united with us?" It is not right!
    The poles are funny. If only they would study history, eh. They owe their existence to Russia and Russian. Do not want to admit? We can forget. About the Poles. Absolutely. Forever. )))
    And what do you think? Who in the world will be sad about the Poles? )))))
    1. Simpsonian
      Simpsonian 17 July 2016 06: 32
      0
      Most admit that the Poles and Belarusians from Nazism have the largest losses in percentage worn.
      Only they usually do not go to the Russian-speaking Internet, so they are not visible ...
  • mamont5
    mamont5 17 July 2016 06: 41
    +1
    Quote: Lyubopyatov
    Suwalki is a Russian name. Like Lublin, Przemysl ... Even the "German" Schwerin was founded by the Russians as Zverin. And the name of the island of Rügen is a Russian root with a German ending.

    All this is true, of course, but ... if we go this route further, then Berlin is a former Slavic settlement.
    1. Simpsonian
      Simpsonian 17 July 2016 06: 58
      0
      So it is ... "Den" and a bear on the coat of arms. No kidding
      look at the map of the Slav and simply western Slavs.
  • vsuvalki
    vsuvalki 17 July 2016 08: 10
    0
    and where is it?
    1. Simpsonian
      Simpsonian 17 July 2016 08: 55
      0
      to the left of the dressing room ...
  • Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 17 July 2016 08: 50
    0
    Quote: wks
    Most likely, another option, in response to the invasion, will be nuclear weapons, and not in the ashes of the invasion, where they are likely to manage on their own. But at the NATO headquarters, command posts, concentration of troops and navy in Europe and the United States, they will play according to the full program. Nobody remembers any Suwalki.


    Is it possible to quickly start "the use of nuclear weapons" at "NATO headquarters, command posts, concentrations of troops and navy in Europe and the United States"? And then something is so annoying ..
    1. Simpsonian
      Simpsonian 17 July 2016 08: 58
      0
      is it monday already?
  • Captain nemo
    Captain nemo 17 July 2016 09: 40
    0
    Russia will have to forget about the Baltic Sea route, in the event of a critical exacerbation of the situation, due to the fact that this transport artery will be controlled by a powerful fleet of Germany. It became clear why Berlin had invested so much effort into creating impressive naval forces. Not to mention the existence of a fairly modern Danish fleet, despite the fact that Denmark is one of the most Russophobic EU countries.

    Well, Denmark, France, England they have always had and will have interests to inflate Poland territorially, due to the fact that it is east and north of Poland. And why Germany should go to the Russian bayonets, and not for the sake of the "territorial integrity" of Germany, but for the "territorial integrity" of Poland?
    Germany is more likely to be a "Trojan horse" in the camp of NATO, which at the right time will do so to return, if not all, but at least Eastern Silesia with Pamiria. Others are not judged by themselves, and if your grandfathers and great-grandfathers, for the sake of fulfilling an order on a foreign territory, were ready to go to their fathers. That about the Germans and Finns, I would not judge that. Unlike you, the protection of their territories for them is more important than stupid orders issued by fools in marshal's shoulder straps.
    Take the "Prague Spring", why do you think the GDR army did not take part in its suppression, despite the fact that they were most eager to go there?
    But I wouldn’t put much on the German Trojan Horse, most likely, that they will be on the sidelines. And at the expense of Suwalki, how finely you set yourself tasks.
    The lands of Jatvig, East of the Pisa River and north of Narew is no longer Poland. As for Suwalki, this is a dispute between Lithuania and Belarus, in third place is East Prussia, and only then Poland, even though in fact due to Soviet fools, she still uses it.
  • Zomanus
    Zomanus 17 July 2016 10: 17
    0
    Another article in the "everything is lost" series.
    The author has not heard anything about the term "threatened period"?
    So, if something really starts to gather at our borders,
    we will arrange such preparations and teachings that the Europeans want
    will disappear right away. I think that there will be a direct statement of readiness
    Strategic Nuclear Forces to deliver a preemptive strike in case of an attack on our territories.
    And it cools the head well.
  • thorns
    thorns 17 July 2016 12: 32
    -1
    Quote: Inok10
    ... then the author would like to remind Russia that Russia has the Double Red Banner Baltic Fleet and coastal defense forces, so WE will control the Baltic with the help of the fleet and coastal anti-ship missile systems "Bal" and "Bastion" ... X-35 in the latter modification flies 280 km. ... clearly a map ... ... such an impression, hysteria is being specially whipped up ... already the second delirium for today

    The wife went with our friend. To Kaliningrad from Baltiysk. He said that the fleet did not come out on a sudden alert. Sad I’m not a fan of everything, but also far from urapatriotizma. By the way, Baltiysk is in a straight line, at a distance of 30 km from the Polish border. The fleet is concentrated here. They will beat him.
  • iouris
    iouris 17 July 2016 13: 28
    -1
    Chuika says that in such a geopolitical format, Kaliningrad will fall off. Whether transponders will be turned on over the Baltic or not does not matter at all.
  • Old warrior
    Old warrior 17 July 2016 14: 02
    0
    Russia needs to declare the withdrawal of all NATO troops from the states bordering us, the Peace Condition. And the states themselves will have to be completely demilitarized. Under our responsibility.
  • SKR-1135
    SKR-1135 17 July 2016 14: 29
    0
    If our time comes, well, so be it. It is unfortunate that past lessons for Western civilization did not go for the future and again they want to play war games with the Russians.
  • geologist
    geologist 17 July 2016 15: 49
    0
    And why was the section of Prussia needed? To remove the threat of world wars for all. In principle, NATO can arrange Port Arthur in Kaliningrad, but the Poles will win, do they really believe in the justice of the German-speaking peoples ... In case of victory, the Germans will insist on the return of Prussian lands, the Danes and Swedes will remember the ancestral lands of the Baltic states, well, the Poles they will suffer for the fact that they are Slavs ... and as usual they will lose the Baltic Sea ... Russia will lose a lot, weaken, but Europe will have to solve the threat of the Near and Middle East without us ... Let us recall a number of Russia's defeats in the wars of 1856, 1905 as a result of which intensified Japan and inconspicuous Germany - then the whole world barely defeated them in World War II, and there was also the first with the collapse of the Russian Empire ... Now they are again trying to weaken Russia and will receive a new threat from the other side - which I don’t know, but to disentangle again will have to work together ...
    1. Simpsonian
      Simpsonian 17 July 2016 19: 15
      +1
      The USSR or Russia has always been disentangled without any joint efforts, and for this it was arranged for the Russians to bleed themselves. Now with nuclear weapons the situation is fundamentally different. You don’t have to go to Berlin for 4 years, no one will get out of Lamanche or in the USA.
  • polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 17 July 2016 16: 17
    +1
    Calm down gentlemen! Nobody will ever give Kaliningrad (the Russian city!) To anyone, and if anyone tries to take it from us by force, I personally do not envy them, and Geyrope and II.
  • pudelartemon
    pudelartemon 17 July 2016 20: 20
    -1
    In the event of a critical aggravation of the situation, Russia will have to forget about the sea route in the Baltic Sea due to the fact that this transport artery will be controlled by a powerful German fleet.

    Consider the powerful fleet of Germany (only battle crab)
    Submarines 6
    15 frigates
    5 Corvettes
    10 Missile Boats
    Moreover, half of this awesome squadron quietly rotts at the base in Kiel.

    And we have just upgraded, with "Caliber", as I understand it, the first rank cruiser "Aurora" laughing
    So the author got a little excited, this fleet can only compete with Somali pirates.
  • Wolka
    Wolka 18 July 2016 09: 34
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    and why should we drag ourselves into Lithuania, beat so in the face of the gentry, right into Suwalki on the left, the second hook on the right along the border of the Lithuanian-gentry
    1. Simpsonian
      Simpsonian 20 July 2016 22: 46
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      This is through Belarus, first they would ask her if she needed this war and even nuclear. But father, and so it behaves like a weather vane. Therefore, it may be necessary to unblock across the Baltic states and punish it for joining NATO, and all sorts of 5th columns may begin to put pressure on the fact that this area is not historical Russian lands, so is it worth starting an apocalypse because of it ... block the message from Transnistria Seiyas even two non-NATO countries have enough untreated greyhounds.
  • Akela
    Akela 18 July 2016 11: 55
    +1
    Before pulling troops to the borders of Russia, NATO should think: is there a chance to win? 1) Remain without oil and gas 2) they will be cut off by sea transportation, and this is hunger 3) oil and gas storages will be blown up, and how will their armored vehicles advance 4 ) all communications, computers, energy systems, a financial superstructure were destroyed by cyber attacks, because Russia has the best programmers, and in the West scientists are the emigrants of their Russia, they know a lot of secrets 5) Caliber, Iskander rockets 6) a very cold winter as a result of using geotectonic weapons overlaps golfs Rome by raising sea plit.I whatnot .Even without the use of strategic nuclear weapons.
  • DimYang
    DimYang 18 July 2016 13: 59
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    I don’t know what will happen there, but on the whole (the passage to our territories in Kaliningrad) we will still have to deal with the under-states of the Baltic states. It is the matter of time. Anyway, invented nationalities are one of the main problems of our reality.
  • sambia
    sambia 18 July 2016 14: 39
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    Quote: Simpsonian
    OK sit in the dirty and carry them your money ...

    Iron argument))
    Of course, discussing the power of weapons, etc., which I only saw in the picture, is pleasant and, most importantly, does not oblige us to anything: no one will ever ask your opinion on foreign policy. And about the pressing and the concrete, about ours, about the painful - so unpleasant, so slippery ...
    And so are our deputies - everyone hid for Putin, for the successes of his foreign policy. And the people did not delegate them at all. so that instead of the clever Lavrov, they’ll die))
    Sometimes one really thinks - why the authorities are ordinary people, their opinion, why Moscow - the provinces.
    It is bitter to admit that in this sense, we have not walked far from Ukraine. Kiev, too, that Crimea, that Donbass is important not for people, but for territories, as well as Moscow - Siberia and Kaliningrad.
    Glad to be wrong, of course.
    1. Simpsonian
      Simpsonian 18 July 2016 18: 13
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      On this issue, the Germans who called this city think the same thing.
    2. Simpsonian
      Simpsonian 18 July 2016 18: 16
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      Mets deputies you really choose
  • Navigator Basov
    Navigator Basov 18 July 2016 16: 09
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    Quote: Rus2012
    Our enclave in the form of the Kaliningrad region
    This is our exclave (half-exclave of the Russian Federation, to be more precise). Given that the Kaliningrad Region is neither an enclave (semi-enclave) of Poland, nor an enclave (semi-enclave) of Lithuania, you are more likely just an ignoramus author. Moreover, the author is a writer, but not a reader: the article clearly mentions that the Kaliningrad region is an exclave.