Graduates of the FSB Academy who participated in the “Gelendvagen parade” will punish the Trans-Urals

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Several senior staff of the FSB Academy will be dismissed, and some will be demoted due to the massive arrival of high school graduates in Mercedes-Benz Gelandewagen cars in Moscow. The participants of the “parade” themselves will be offered service in regions remote from the capital, reports Ридус, the press service of the department.



“For the first time in many years, during the ceremonial events outside the service, students were allowed to take action, which attracted increased public attention,” the release said.

It is noted that "their immodest demonstrative personal behavior ... caused a fair resentment of citizens and a sharp condemnation in military teams of security agencies, as not complying with the Code of Ethics and official conduct."

“Strict disciplinary measures have been applied to the leadership of the Academy, including a number of managers who have been demoted, some will be submitted to dismissal,” the agency added.

As for the participants of the race themselves, “they have made fundamental personal decisions to change the conditions of their service”. Many perpetrators will be suspended from operational work and sent to distant garrisons for service.

According to sources from the Forbes publication, "graduates who refused to continue their service" beyond the Urals "will be offered to resign."

Recall, 21 June, dozens of graduates of the Academy of the FSB staged a ride on the central streets of the capital on the 28-m luxury SUV Mercedes-Benz Gelandewagen, attracting everyone's attention. Then the video of this "VIP-parade" themselves posted in the "world wide web."
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  1. +78
    July 15 2016
    yes: after all, not all FSB agents are equally useful!
    1. +24
      July 15 2016
      So if from any iron learn to boast. . . and now it counts as NORMAL. . .
      1. +12
        July 15 2016
        Growing up of a miscarriage.
        1. +50
          July 15 2016
          Judah is growing up.
          Now they, who have suffered for nothing, are offended by Russia.
          1. +10
            July 15 2016
            Quote: Pereira
            Judah is growing up.
            Now they, who have suffered for nothing, are offended by Russia.

            Are you sure that all these voiced punishments will be put into effect? After all, they can wait until the time when the topic is forgotten, and then they will return everything.
            1. +11
              July 15 2016
              I am sure that everyone’s personal file already has a corresponding mark.
              What do you think, in about five years, who will personally be able to instruct the local personnel officers to no longer pay attention to these notes?
          2. +34
            July 15 2016
            Pereira
            Judah is growing up.
            Now they, who have suffered for nothing, are offended by Russia.

            Now they are not only offended, they will do any thing ... but to take out their insult ... And what do you think, you can turn over such an asshole for a lot of UE, or he will go for it in order to take revenge on someone who does not understand his "impulse" to the state and certain people in particular !?
            1. +25
              July 15 2016
              I do not think that they can hope for a good career.
              I'm worried about something else. Next year's release will be more careful, although by nature they are exactly the same.
              1. +11
                July 15 2016
                Quote: Pereira
                Next year's release will be more careful, although by nature they are exactly the same.

                Well, it seems like voiced and punishment for leadership and teachers. So there is hope that the next release will be different.
                1. +11
                  July 15 2016
                  Is not a fact. How many study there? Three, four years? In any case, most of the term of study was taught by the same people as the current issue. These are also spoiled. And in the 2013,14,15 releases, I'm also not sure anymore.
                2. +1
                  July 16 2016
                  Quote: Jack-B
                  Well, it seems like voiced and punishment for leadership and teachers. So there is hope that the next release will be different.

                  A long time ago (even under J.V. Stalin, in 1936, it seems), COURSERS of the Academy of the General Staff seem to have "distinguished themselves." The then chief was first removed (with a bunch of "implicated"), and then also "slapped".
                  Let's hope that the story regarding RADICAL re-education measures will not be needed.
        2. +22
          July 15 2016
          You study the history of the oprichnina. Perhaps change your attitude towards them. And this is the future traitors grow up.
          1. +5
            July 15 2016
            You study the history of the oprichnina.


            I was learning. Oprichnikov was demonized by the liberals of the times of Ivan the Terrible. Oddly enough it sounds, but there were such. Just called differently.
          2. +19
            July 15 2016
            Quote: NordUral
            You study the history of the oprichnina.

            Oprichniki were demonized, just like Ivan the Terrible! And, thanks to them, Ivan 4 remained in power, otherwise the lovers would have killed the tsar to arrange unrest of the princes, and boyars. Why doesn’t anyone remember what role the Oprichniks played in the military campaigns of Grozny!
            The guardsmen had existed for only 7 years, but rumors of their reprisals against the people were already enough for three kings! The main function of the guardsmen was different, it was the king’s support against the boyars and princes.
            1. +5
              July 16 2016
              Quote: Stas157
              Oprichniki were demonized, just like Ivan the Terrible!

              +! Especially when you consider that this "bloody tyrant" REALLY destroyed hundreds of times fewer opponents of his power than "democrats" from "enlightened" Europe.
              As a result, the phrase "European democracy" makes me laugh, no more. drinks
          3. +4
            July 16 2016
            Heroes and traitors study side by side, but everyone makes his own choice!
        3. +3
          July 17 2016
          Where did the FSB get money for heliks? And what do they protect, peace of the country or power?
          1. +4
            July 17 2016
            there is no way to get to this university from the outside - only along related lines - "inherited work" or loot - so most likely they will be pardoned and after a couple (or maybe less) they will return to the capital and their return will only strengthen their faith in their majesty
      2. +2
        July 16 2016
        Quote: Wild_Grey_Wolf
        So if from any iron learn to boast. . . and now it counts as NORMAL. . .

        Ethics and morality are nothing! Ponty is everything!
    2. +99
      July 15 2016
      Quote: RUSOIVAN
      yes: after all, not all FSB agents are equally useful!

      Such young FSB cadres are potential traitors. They are for the sake of dough and a cool car, their mother will sell, under / onki.
      1. +93
        July 15 2016
        I did not know that service beyond the Urals was a punishment. What is interesting for the FSB’s homeland?
        1. +27
          July 15 2016
          Will they go on gelenvagens? So maybe with the roads it will become better. wassat
        2. +33
          July 15 2016
          Quote: captain
          I did not know that service beyond the Urals was a punishment. What is interesting for the FSB’s homeland?
          So the border guard is also the FSB. He learned to catch spies, and went to guard the border. The question is not even where it is better or worse, but what I expected and received.
          1. +3
            July 15 2016
            Quote: Jack-B
            So the border guard is also the FSB. At

            Every donkey must wear his coca ...
          2. +33
            July 15 2016
            You think they learned to catch spies. Do you think they generally studied. Therefore, I think the leadership of the academy was hurt (how did such graduates work for teachers? For money? Or are they just dumb? And if they were dumb, did they reach the graduation?) Disgrace.
            What is the border for them to protect the toilets.
            1. +1
              July 15 2016
              Quote: Vinci
              Do you think they generally studied.

              Studied. Another thing is that something was lost. You forget that these are almost yesterday's children. Only university graduated. It is clear that young and hot. Nakosyachili. Restrictions on service and the stigma for life will be a very severe punishment for them. How would you react to this trick and punishment if your son was among these graduates? I personally don’t know. I certainly believe that punishment should be. The FSB is too serious an office for snot and forgiveness honestly. Well, what kind of punishment should it be, I think they will figure it out. That punishment that is voiced, I do not think is soft.
              1. +13
                July 15 2016
                Missed apparently the most important thing. Do you think children are 22-25 years old? normal people still have time to work while studying so that parents don’t sit on their necks, and they’re already thinking about their children. And tomorrow people will be led to terrorists, to defend someone (as officers' epaulets), and they have heliks in their heads. What kind of shisha, such lily of the valley. And they have already chosen their own firms which trusts can be (by the way Xivas).
                1. +6
                  July 16 2016
                  Quote: Vinci
                  Missed apparently the most important thing.

                  And it seems that such a topic is not only in the FSB. I have literally under my windows (Peter) the University of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, - the locals jokingly call it Cop-Hogwarts (in the mornings, the girls cadets are forced to sweep the adjacent territory, and, I tell you, it really looks like it). The future guardians are observed daily. So, a couple of times in the same minibus (they have a hostel on the other side of the city) they had to put in their place the children (rudeness, math-rewind), judging by the chevrons, the fourth and fifth course. They arrange the same lawlessness at the metro station of Veterans Ave., insolently interfering with their cars (collect their own) public transport. The trend, however ... So soon in every district we will have a "26th department" (a well-known cesspool), but not one ... Well, this is, so to speak, "internal affairs", we will figure it out inside (and at least ourselves ). But, s..a, GB am
              2. +10
                July 15 2016
                Are they the kids? I think that the irresponsibility shown by graduates may have the worst consequences for the country's security in the future, and therefore it is better to wipe out the entire issue of these idiots to a citizen, with a ban on traveling abroad before the expiration of the secrecy period. Let them go to businessmen, managers, etc., etc., majors will not disappear.
              3. +4
                July 16 2016
                Quote: Jack-B
                That punishment that is voiced, I do not think is soft.

                It is VERY soft. They’ll just be sent by the deputy guards for educational work at the frontier posts (former PPR smile ) to Yamal, Chukotka, etc., if I understood correctly. The "crusts" will not be taken away (ie the "tower" will remain). Then they will rattle off as lucky - and in private security companies. With "cool ksiva" and DATING + "hammered into the spinal cord" rules of work on objects. And half (if not more) of the current graduates of Universities (former polytechnics) will be envious. Guaranteed distribution, non-acidic monetary allowance, "brand", although idiots, but from the FIRM!
            2. +1
              July 16 2016
              Quote: Vinci
              to protect them toilets

              Better to wash and clean
        3. +24
          July 15 2016
          Quote: captain
          I did not know that service beyond the Urals was a punishment.

          "Graduates who refuse to continue their service" beyond the Urals "will be offered to resign."
          Received a prestigious education for the state. account, overgrown with the necessary connections and made a pen. Encouragement, I can not name otherwise. Wait for the next year general Gelenda parade. Yeah, the Chekists are over. Come in, enemy, into the country. Price of admission ticket according to the price list. The head of the country is not a stranger in this area. What is going on upstairs?
          1. +4
            July 15 2016
            and what "useful connections" have yesterday's students who have not served anywhere?
            1. +3
              July 15 2016
              they would have connections if they served, and no one needs those who have not served, without a "booklet" there is no roof of them
          2. -2
            July 15 2016
            Is everyone now guillat? All the same, there are more serious violations.
          3. +6
            July 15 2016
            Yeah, the Chekists are over. 97110 (3) RU Today, 10:22 ↑
            I’ll ask you not to speak for everyone. I know a lot of decent people in the FSB department, the whole burden of re-educating these races will fall on them .....
            1. +5
              July 15 2016
              Quote: VALERIK_097
              Yeah, the Chekists are over. 97110 (3) RU Today, 10:22 ↑
              I’ll ask you not to speak for everyone. I know a lot of decent people in the FSB department, the whole burden of re-educating these races will fall on them .....

              I wonder what Stirlitz would say to this? ... Judging by his face, I know!
        4. WKS
          +31
          July 15 2016
          Quote: captain
          I did not know that service beyond the Urals was a punishment. What is interesting for the FSB’s homeland?

          For the whole population of the Trans-Urals, this is the Motherland, and for the FSB officer it is a prison. Can such a FSB of Russia be dispersed at all on occasion and recruit normal people there?
          1. +1
            July 16 2016
            Quote: wks
            For the whole population of the Trans-Urals, this is the Motherland, and for the FSB officer it is a prison.

            Well, don't be SO sad. In the Trans-Urals, on the coast, there are FULL places where FORMALLY - the border zone, but in fact - well, there is absolutely nothing to catch. Compared to the coast of the Kola Peninsula, for example. Which is ALSO a border area, but there are "slightly" other piers, etc.
            But they won’t send them to the Pacific Fleet. IMHO. For NEFIG!
        5. +32
          July 15 2016
          And this is from the series "There is no life beyond the Moscow Ring Road" wink laughing
        6. +2
          July 15 2016
          And this is from the series "There is no life beyond the Moscow Ring Road" wink laughing
        7. +34
          July 15 2016
          Quote: captain
          I did not know that service beyond the Urals was a punishment. What is interesting for the FSB’s homeland?

          And people not only serve (serve time) beyond the Urals, but also live (life?). Where are the compensations for not getting into Moscow? It's time to introduce.
          1. +10
            July 15 2016
            Quote: Mavrikiy
            And people not only serve (serve time) beyond the Urals, but also live (life?). Where are the compensations for not getting into Moscow? It's time to introduce.

            We were late with the offer. Nobody canceled the regional coefficients to the salary. In the Far North, as it was 80% regional + 8 "polar" (80% more) and remained. True, not everyone here can withstand, you know the polar night, winter 9 months -50, imported fruits and vegetables with a wrapping of 200-300% to the "mainland", plane tickets on vacation for 80-100 thousand per family one way. wink
            1. +1
              July 17 2016
              Quote: Captain45
              They were late with the offer. Nobody canceled the district salary coefficients.

              And a year and a half at the servicemen where? Really canceled? belay
              1. +3
                July 17 2016
                Quote: SergeBS
                And a year and a half at the servicemen where? Really canceled?

                Yes, it seems, no, they did not cancel. Although, we should go to the draft board (it’s good across the road) and take an interest, otherwise almost twenty years have passed ... request
        8. +10
          July 15 2016
          Quote: captain
          I did not know that service beyond the Urals was a punishment.

          laughing Let me remind you of our Soviet saying. Military service is KVN! All funny people serve beyond the Urals and in Asia. And the resourceful in the center and western groups of troops ...
          So do not pretend that you do not know this. Since tsarist times, service people who did not fit into the general scheme were sent to Siberia and the Caucasus ...
          1. +4
            July 15 2016
            not everyone understands the phrase "for the Urals" or "to Siberia", all the same, the Urals and Siberia are far from being the same as those under the king of peas.
          2. 0
            July 17 2016
            Quote: domokl
            Let me remind you of our Soviet saying. Military service is KVN! All funny people serve beyond the Urals and in Asia. And the resourceful in the center and western groups of troops ...

            And I remember another saying, also a Soviet one: "They won't send Kushki further, they won't give less platoon."
            Well, about the tsarist times, there’s also a saying:
            "The dandy is in the cavalry,
            Clever - in artillery,
            Loafer - in the fleet,
            - in the infantry. "
            And SHO?
            For a "seed": where is the Northern Fleet in this "universal scheme"? For instance? Or Pacific?
            Well, or the same Eburg or Novosib, which are "much worse" than the service in a district city with a population of 50, of which 30. - warriors. "But in Europe", "in the center". And there are also ALL "happy places" where to a large city (St. Petersburg, for example) - 100 km, and around - continuous swamps and mosquitoes. But "Europe", "center". And SHO?
            Mother Russia is great. Therefore, even "in the center" - to find a "hole" with the only entertainment center - the Officers' Club (or the Club of the Officers of the Navy) - is not a problem.
            1. +1
              July 17 2016
              Quote: SergeBS
              - in the infantry. "

              This line should be:
              D.u.r.a.k - in the infantry "
            2. 0
              July 17 2016
              A strange idea about the service!
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        10. +7
          July 15 2016
          Quote: captain
          I did not know that service beyond the Urals was a punishment. What is interesting for the FSB’s homeland?

          Indeed, it turns out that those who are currently serving there are already punished by default? Are people already divided by hundred by place of residence?
        11. +7
          July 15 2016
          Quote: captain
          I did not know that service beyond the Urals was a punishment.

          For Academy graduates - yes! The FSB has more than one educational institution. And for the service "on the periphery" there are universities of lower rank. And the Academy trains top-level specialists. Therefore, getting to Ust-Perdyaysk after the Academy is a great punishment.
      2. +14
        July 15 2016
        Quote: DMB_95
        Such young FSB cadres are potential traitors. They are for the sake of dough and a cool car, their mother will sell, under / onki.

        Well, now there is a record in the personal file. This is even worse than the "Trans-Urals". Each time they will be viewed as potential traitors. We immediately cut off the top bar for ourselves.
        1. +1
          July 15 2016
          Quote: Jack-B
          Each time they will be looked at as potential traitors. Immediately cut the upper bar to yourself.

          Or "look at your own people. They immediately removed the upper bar for ourselves." There is no other reasonable explanation for what is happening. Especially in the light
          "Graduates who refuse to continue their service" beyond the Urals "will be offered to resign."
          1. +6
            July 15 2016
            Quote: 97110
            Or "look at your own people. They immediately removed the upper bar for ourselves." There is no other reasonable explanation for what is happening. Especially in the light

            Yes, they probably exiled the most normal ones. And the organizers of the ugliness, the general's sons, covered stopudovo.
            1. +1
              July 16 2016
              Quote: Manul
              .A the organizers of the disgrace, the sons of general, stopudovo covered.

              You think badly about the children of the generals. sad
              1. +2
                July 17 2016
                Quote: Homo
                You think badly about the children of the generals.

                Of course, all sorts of things come across ... But I didn't feel any dividends, except for pride and the desire to be like him, from my father's admiralty, and, to be honest, I didn't strive. True, he received his "furry" star shortly before retirement, and a "trailer" - stomach cancer. I was brought up on the principle of "help yourself". Since then, the best help for me is when they just don't interfere. So here everything is purely individual. hi
          2. +10
            July 15 2016
            graduates who refuse to continue their service "beyond the Urals" will be offered to resign ".... But first, calculate the tuition fees, accommodation, meals and so on. With a lifetime ban on traveling abroad. So that the service does not seem like honey.
        2. +6
          July 15 2016
          Quote: Jack-B
          ... immediately cut the upper bar to yourself

          Are you sure they needed her? IMHO, they need loot, judging by the trick, and the bar ... and roll with it)))
        3. +6
          July 15 2016
          Quote: Jack-B
          Each time they will be looked at as potential traitors.

          Are you sure about that??? What for me, so surely these kids of any bosses or rich dad. And they will be provided with a warm place !!! Oh, how many of these were ....
          1. +8
            July 15 2016
            Quote: sso-250659
            Quote: Jack-B
            Each time they will be looked at as potential traitors.

            Are you sure about that??? What for me, so surely these kids of any bosses or rich dad. And they will be provided with a warm place !!! Oh, how many of these were ....

            Both are right.
            For real officers, they will be like potential traitors, but for "we do not abandon our own" they will be their own, a growing shift on geliks.
        4. +1
          July 15 2016
          Quote: Jack-B
          Well, now there is a record in the personal file. This is even worse than the "Trans-Urals". Each time they will be viewed as potential traitors. We immediately cut off the top bar for ourselves.

          Watching what they came for. They really are unlikely to be generals. Will be repelled for 7 years and in the Security Council of some sort of bank. The work is not dusty, they pay well.
          1. +5
            July 15 2016
            Quote: user1212
            Will be repelled for 7 years and in the Security Council of some sort of bank. The work is not dusty, they pay well.

            Yes, and with God! I am convinced that such work is not needed for work in the FSB (really work)!
            1. +1
              July 16 2016
              They are no longer needed, because on the same day their happy faces, which they showed, I think, to the CIA, MI6, the Mossad, and other colleagues in the shop, entered into their computers and databases ...
      3. -6
        July 15 2016
        Quote: DMB_95
        these are potential traitors. They are for the sake of dough and a cool car, they will sell their mother, under / onki.

        When did you graduate from college (if you studied of course) immediately ran to defend your homeland? Or were they buzzing in the tavern? If you are so categorical, then I ask you to answer only one question - What did these graduates violate? What orders, what laws, what instructions ... Only without emotions and show-offs like what you wrote .. Traitors ... We are far from the FSB, moreover, it’s not very good for this service. But you need to be objective. Violated, get it, but ashamed to go about idiots ...
        1. +4
          July 15 2016
          They violated the SDA ... SDA
        2. +12
          July 15 2016
          Violated, get it, but ashamed to go about idiots ...


          They violated the most important thing - they are our defenders and defenders of the law. And at the same time, the law itself violated the rules. Yes, and in a pointed manner, showing (merging the Old and No) that we (the people) would simply be for them. Do you like it when you are treated like that? I don’t, therefore, I will be among those, you say, morons, on the subject of whom the FSB leadership has come.
          1. 0
            July 17 2016
            It is enough to carefully read the name of the office: FSB-Federal Security Service. This office has no sexual relation to the protection of the people, by definition. And what is the attitude of the state with its people, the same attitude of the defenders of this state.
          2. 0
            July 17 2016
            It is enough to carefully read the name of the office: FSB-Federal Security Service. This office has no sexual relation to the protection of the people, by definition. And what is the attitude of the state with its people, the same attitude of the defenders of this state.
        3. +4
          July 15 2016
          objectively they violated point-any shepherd in the steppe / mountains / tundra / taiga / Moscow grazing sheep can say when he meets "I know them - they are FSB officers "...
          ALL!!!...

          Would they be military / tax officials / customs officers / cops / mailers / doctors and so on, yes, show off, drink, have a snack, but this does not affect professional affiliation and further work, sober up and go ahead - work ..
          and here it’s all ...
        4. +3
          July 15 2016
          Quote: domokl
          What did these same graduates violate?

          They violated the most important principle of the creator and organizer of the Cheka F.E. Dzerzhinsky: "The Chekist must have a cold mind, warm heart and clean hands!"
        5. +2
          July 15 2016
          "What have these graduates violated? What orders, what laws, what instructions ..."

          The FSB is not a show business, not a theater school! Their faces lit up on the Internet, and how will they serve now? All the special services of our "friends" can hang their faces on every corner - every dog ​​will know them! And it’s dangerous to send them to the border: they’re strained with brains, they can dementia and profuse the border!
        6. +1
          July 16 2016
          Quote: domokl
          -What have these graduates violated? What orders, what laws, what instructions

          Internal Plus the laws of Ethics. Therefore, responsibility is not criminal (God forbid), but disciplinary.
        7. +5
          July 17 2016
          Quote: domokl
          What did these same graduates violate? What orders, what laws, what instructions ...

          They violated "nondisclosure" instructions, "nondisclosure" orders and a bunch of other things. Moreover, most of these instructions and "familiarization with the order under PERSONAL responsibility" they signed when they entered the academy.
          For a CLEAR example: when I visited OPEN exhibitions in Sokolniki (well, I asked different questions :)), then I was OBLIGED to answer the question - "where are you from, so inquisitive", cheerfully answer - with MELZ, specifically - "Chromatron". And I could even name the number of the shop, the head of the shop and 3-4 foremen. Although I have never been to MELZ. smile
    3. +31
      July 15 2016
      Quote: RUSOIVAN
      yes: after all, not all FSB agents are equally useful!


      Lost all reality, whom did you prepare? again the majors of the golden youth, disperse all ...
      1. +14
        July 15 2016
        Quote: cniza
        Lost all reality, whom did you prepare? again the majors of the golden youth, disperse all ...

        "No need to rush, yes!" While studying, these, someone's offspring, received information that does not "walk" in public circles and is secret. And resources and time were spent on training!
        So let them work for several years in far corners of Russia! It is possible in the Arctic!
        1. +3
          July 15 2016
          While studying, they do not receive information that "does not go", but on the border to distant outposts, to serve the Motherland, it would be necessary to have them for five years!
        2. 0
          July 15 2016
          Quote: Starover_Z
          So let them work for several years in far corners of Russia! It is possible in the Arctic!

          And with that as
          "Graduates who refuse to continue their service" beyond the Urals "will be offered to resign."
          ?
          1. +2
            July 15 2016
            And with this, as "graduates who refused to continue their service" beyond the Urals "will be offered to resign"?


            I do not think that there will be a lot of those who refuse and whether they will be at all.
            If there are, then these "spies" will be taken on a pencil. We will not judge only by these major players. There are enough loyal and devoted employees in the department, who can and have geliks, but without show-off.
          2. +1
            July 17 2016
            Quote: 97110
            And with that as
            "Graduates who refuse to continue their service" beyond the Urals "will be offered to resign."

            And they will make them "restricted to travel abroad" for 10 years. With personal account at the place of residence. And "additional buns", like no serious bank will take them to itself - they will not pass the check from the "neighbors" of these banks, etc. In reality, having lost the opportunity to get even a Form 3 admission, a LOT of possible duty stations are cut off. Only PSCs remain. And not all of them.
        3. +7
          July 15 2016
          28 by 4 is a whole company ... So no one will touch their sons, they will report on the punishment and the workers and peasants will go to the Urals, as was planned in principle ...
      2. +12
        July 15 2016
        And the second BIG question, where does Geliki come from? 28 cars, this one is not 2-3. It means the garage is involved. Those. collectively, the cars also lit up. And if these are your own cars, then you need to drive 100% of "graduates", tk. they would not be able to buy such a car with their salary.
        1. +8
          July 15 2016
          Quote: ostrom
          The second BIG question is, where does Geliki come from? 28 cars, this one is not 2-3. It means the garage is involved. Those. collectively, the cars also lit up. And if these are your own cars, then you need to drive 100% of "graduates", tk. on their salary they would not be able to buy such a car.

          and the cars were rented for 3 hours, an hour 2000r
        2. +2
          July 15 2016
          The press wrote that the heliks had rented, at least part.
      3. +3
        July 15 2016
        Quote: cniza
        whom did they cook?

        Who prepared what? Grant through Nuland received?
    4. +9
      July 15 2016
      yes: after all, not all FSB agents are equally useful!

      Familiar FSBs are useful. laughing
      1. +35
        July 15 2016
        First of all, we need to clean the FSB’s own security, which allowed the moral corruption of young employees and discrediting the entire country's security system.
        1. +2
          July 15 2016
          but such people just go on dismissal in connection with what happened
    5. +12
      July 15 2016
      Most likely this is just stupidity associated with youthful self-affirmation. Perhaps, having received a spanking and having worked with sweat and "blood" in non-prestigious and irresponsible posts, most of them will quickly grow up and still benefit people)
      But the teachers who defamed indecency are not sorry: they are adults and should have understood all the unacceptability of the idea.
      1. +10
        July 15 2016
        A person must go to the FSB at the call of his heart, and from the very beginning .. and if for them a parade on heliks is cool, then having matured, for them it will be cool ten lyamy greens to receive for the secrets of the motherland!
      2. +13
        July 15 2016
        This is not an "institution of noble maidens"
        There should be no second chance in the FSB - this is the country's security.
        The punishment is too soft.
        Cancel diplomas and send military service to serve.
      3. +21
        July 15 2016
        Stupidity associated with youthful self-assertion of graduates of the FSB Academy? Don't you think this sounds absurd? Even a police officer must comply with certain rules of conspiracy, do not show a certificate on every corner, do not spill official information. And here is the elite of special services, state security officers and you are talking about youth.
      4. +3
        July 15 2016
        This is not stupidity, this is stupidity. They are still not 18 years old? Who has read "The Honor" by VS Pikul, the plot is traced. A pre-programmed figure, or several, is taken out of the game.
    6. +5
      July 15 2016
      Do you want to be a policeman or do you want to play the role of a policeman? (C) The Departed 2006
    7. +12
      July 15 2016
      They should be planted and not transferred to the "Trans-Urals". It turns out that the people living there, to put it mildly, are second-class and there are people like these working, so what ??? I think this statement is incorrect. The problem of swagger and careerism and protectionism devoured the FSB from the inside. There are practically no professionals left, judging by the fact that (!) Is produced (to call "who!", The language does not turn). The selection level for applicants is extremely low and not professional, "used to get the one who needs, and today the one who wants"(words of FSB general in reserve Alexander Mikhailov). Apparently the FSB academy has a systemic crisis and the punishment of this contingent cannot correct the situation. It is necessary to change the approach not only to education at this university, but also throughout Russia.
    8. -10
      July 15 2016
      What other FSB officers are they - just stupid children. And of them, just like from football, the villains were blinded.
      1. +12
        July 15 2016
        Quote: g1v2
        What other FSB officers are they - just stupid children.


        There were "onizhedeti" on the Maidan, how did it end ?!
      2. +11
        July 15 2016
        They took the oath, they are no longer children.
        1. -8
          July 15 2016
          From the fact that the guy dressed and took the oath, he does not become an adult. These are the same teenagers as conscripts in the army. What we just didn’t do by urgency and the adult can’t understand anymore. Hormones and vypendrezh in a teenager disappear with age, and not with getting shoulder straps. And what do cadets do? Surely they themselves didn’t climb into the same female dormitory or didn’t do any dope when they were young? Well then, I'm sorry. So the children decided to show off - drive like a steep one, like in a series crew. And why shoot them now for a show off at the wall? Now a lot of serious uncles are jerking off and the kids and so few will not seem.
          1. +3
            July 15 2016
            "So the children decided to show off - to drive like a steep, like a brigade in the series."
            But the question is: the TV series "Brigade" is about whom? If this is a role model, then I can imagine how and what they will serve!
          2. 0
            July 17 2016
            Quote: g1v2
            From the fact that the guy dressed and took the oath, he does not become an adult. These are the same teenagers as conscripts in the army.

            Uh-huh. Only a conscript is going to rattle off 2 years (now 1 year) and get "buns" for this "in civilian life". And these stunners - OVER 20 years old, did not go for "buns in civilian life", such as in the Ministry of Internal Affairs and then linemen, but in SERIOUS work to harness. Pull the strap with a quarter. And since they did not understand where they went - TO DRIVE NAFIG. Such "children" have their own children. Let your children be hammered in: "took up the tug - don't say you're not hefty."
      3. +10
        July 15 2016
        What other FSB officers are they - just stupid children. And of them, just like from football, the villains were blinded.


        ONE-CHILD - Doesn't it remind you of anything? If he graduated from the FSB, then ALREADY not a child.
      4. +5
        July 15 2016
        Quote: g1v2
        What other FSB officers are they - just stupid children. And of them, just like from football, the villains were blinded.

        what children? these are already colleagues, besides officers and as hedonists turned out, that’s why we need to ask who and why they took them to the academy and what they taught, and the worthy does not disappear beyond the Urals, will serve the homeland, the unworthy is not needed at all.
      5. +5
        July 17 2016
        Quote: g1v2
        just stupid kids

        "Stupid children" go to correctional schools, not the FSB academy.
        1. 0
          July 17 2016
          if they or their parents don’t have much money
        2. 0
          July 17 2016
          if they or their parents don’t have much money
    9. +7
      July 15 2016
      Govnyuki ...
      but in general it turned out not bad - the eyes of those who still dreamed opened.
      The fish rots from the head.
    10. +1
      July 15 2016
      Quote: RUSOIVAN
      yes: after all, not all FSB agents are equally useful!

      --------------------
      Even KGB officers were not equally useful, some of them participated in the dismantling of the USSR.
    11. +1
      July 15 2016
      In us, we are such beyond the Urals ...
    12. +2
      July 18 2016
      But it’s not enough to raise money for a graduation and transfer it to a veteran charity fund .. this is why you need to start serving your country .. and so wretched thoughts .. paucity of mind ... lack of morality and ethics ... than it reminds a football team ..
  2. +12
    July 15 2016
    "Many of those responsible will be removed from operational work and sent to serve in distant garrisons."

    Will agree. Then they will transfer - the scheme is simple.
  3. +4
    July 15 2016
    Do you like to ride, love and carry a sleigh.
    1. +5
      July 15 2016
      ... and to clear the forest, and to clean the stables ... it would be fairer.
  4. +10
    July 15 2016
    If only the children of high-ranking people were then quietly returned to warm places. I would also demote all the graduates participating in the rank to lieutenant. I would like to imagine something like this when graduating, say, the KGB school ... Not to mention the NKVD.
    1. +29
      July 15 2016
      They will return, you have no doubt. It was necessary to drive from the FSB, with the calculation of money for training.
    2. +8
      July 15 2016
      Quote: Abbra
      I would also demote all the graduates participating in the rank to lieutenant.


      The punishment, of course, is serious, especially when you consider that they are already issued by lieutenants ... hi
      Apparently, they have not yet grown to this rank - for such reasons in the old days they said: "It has risen under the nose, but it has not yet been sown in the head." ... fool
    3. 0
      July 15 2016
      Quote: Abbra
      I would also demote all the graduates participating in the rank to lieutenant.

      So all the graduates of the military, even the militia, the FSB, have their first rank in graduation - lieutenant. "Lieutenant sounds like pour us a drink" (c) B. Slutsky seems.
      1. 0
        July 17 2016
        Quote: Captain45
        So all graduates of the towers are at least army, at least militia. At least the FSB have the first rank of lieutenant.

        At excellent students - starley. And the right to choose a place of service (from possible ess-no). At least in the Navy - like that.
    4. 0
      July 15 2016
      Quote: Abbra
      I would also demote all the graduates participating in the rank to lieutenant.

      And what are they immediately issued by generals?
    5. +6
      July 15 2016
      in our division (OMSDON named after F.E. Dzerzhinsky), soldiers were sent "to serve with polar bears", for extra words in a letter about the service. A friend was removed from the front box, and transferred to the Urals to guard the military plant. The reason, my sister wrote in a letter that his friend went to prison.
      There are people here who do not understand that a glamorous manager is normal, and a glamorous FSB officer is nonsense.
  5. +59
    July 15 2016
    First of all, the leadership of the academy should be punished. For five years, they grew up unknowingly. The profession itself implies a powerful analytical unit on the shoulders, and here there is a handful of jerks who are unable to even calculate the consequences of their behavior in the simplest way.
    1. +10
      July 15 2016
      And the better the staff of MGIMO and the Higher School of Economics?
      I look at this talk show talk and I can’t understand, they don’t imagine what is happening around Russia, what is the FSA policy aimed at? They do not resent spitting spits in Russia? All sorts of tricks are poisoned by Russia in small and large, trying to isolate, and these Moscow hamsters tryndyat that Russia is to blame for everything.
      Or maybe Russia is "work" for them, but they hope to live beyond the river, where everything has already been prepared?
      If the Fashington macaques manage to start a war, Moscow hamsters like B. Nadezhdin will not have to work and live anywhere ever again.
      1. +2
        July 15 2016
        Quote: Balu
        And the better the staff of MGIMO and the Higher School of Economics?

        Not better, but the degree of responsibility is different and the consequences.
      2. +4
        July 15 2016
        And the better the staff of MGIMO and the Higher School of Economics?
        -----------------------------------------
        Well, Balu, it’s embarrassing to compare and not to know that these are certainly the ranks of the liberals, they are supposed to grow mold in test tubes by rank: =)
      3. +5
        July 15 2016
        "What is the better staff of MGIMO and HSE?"

        Topornin N.B. - Associate Professor of the Department of European Law, MGIMO. He is famous for the fact that on the program V. Solovyov "Duel", he said that NATO (founded on April 4, 1949) was created in response to the creation of the Warsaw Pact Organization (founded on May 14, 1955)! What can this assistant professor teach? Zhirik then said: "Today is your last day at MGIMO!" Alas, Zhirik, as always, is not responsible for his words - this associate professor still works at MGIMO!
        1. -1
          July 17 2016
          Zhirik - the Kremlin cockerel crowed, and there the sun get up, do not get up: it's not his business.
    2. 0
      July 15 2016
      So they wrote that they would punish.
    3. +2
      July 15 2016
      Draw an analogy with Russian football and everything will fall into place, there are also sons of governors, mayors and deputies!
  6. +55
    July 15 2016
    Why are they all being sent to us in Siberia? It’s as if we don’t have enough of our own greyhounds on heliks. am We don’t need them! Just resign.
    1. +17
      July 15 2016
      Indeed, they are not needed in Siberia. If they get here, they will behave even worse here, like "Muscovites" and we will visit you for a little while ... You can't remake them, just drive them.
      1. +13
        July 15 2016
        From Tatarstan there was a landing of "managers" to the Far East.
        Ochchchchen quickly revealed their essence, how did it end? Some of them cost freedom.
        For me, a civilian officer is not an officer unless he has a modest soldier's medal. It used to be For Courage. Now, if I am not mistaken, for military services. So it was necessary to send where it is hotter. An extreme situation will reveal the essence of everyone who should be an officer and who should go to the security service to serve the oligarchs. The excuse is that the older comrades organized Gelenvagens ... already speaks of immaturity. They would be mature men, they would take all the blame on themselves, but they would try to divert the arrow. As a taxpayer, I am disappointed. To the "senior comrades" who organized the gelnvagen show and lit up the youth, pay what they deserve.
        My recipe is to send away where it is dangerous, and there they will manifest themselves. hi
        1. +2
          July 15 2016
          Hotter - Dagestan. Cooler - Murmansk region.
          1. +2
            July 16 2016
            It is possible to us - in Donbass !!!
        2. +6
          July 15 2016
          From Tatarstan there was a landing of "managers" to the Far East.
          -------------------------------------------------- ------
          Yes, "fellow countrywomen", yopta, are accustomed to steal with impunity in Kazan, to fool around with millions. They are from us as a result of the undercover struggle of the shuranuli - so they got shit elsewhere.
          By the way, Camil Iskhakov must not be denied cunning. Anyone interested in telling a story about him. About how Iskhakov immortalized himself. We decided to put up a monument to prof. Fuchsu in the city. The mayor (Iskhakov) agreed with one condition - to depict his face in the monument. There is nothing to do - the author agreed. And he depicted ... Our professor is standing, leaning on a cane, and the knob ... in the form of Iskhakov’s head. And so, the bastard, depicted, with such a smile, they say: haha, all of us ... l, during his lifetime, a monument to himself, etc., that fit to laugh. After all, in parallel, each contribution to the history of the city is also visible in size.
        3. 0
          July 17 2016
          In the penal battalion - atone with blood!
    2. +1
      July 15 2016
      Yes, no, let them send, we have here "Bratchane" will crush them at a stroke, here they do not like the "Moscow Major" ..))!
    3. +5
      July 15 2016
      Quote: Observer 33
      Just resign.

      But can he organize an elite outpost closer to the north pole, where officers, due to the importance of the task, will also be in the ranks of ordinary and sergeant personnel? Where will those who refuse to serve beyond the Urals serve? Until the resignation.
  7. 0
    July 15 2016
    this whole story looks from the very beginning as a "farce." Maybe all this happened just for this: "Strict disciplinary measures have been applied to the leadership of the Academy, including a number of managers who have been demoted, some will be presented for dismissal," department.
    1. +28
      July 15 2016
      Quote: xant
      Maybe all this happened just for the sake of this:



      So they said, "increased public attention." If the people did not begin to comment so actively, then there would be no consequences.

      And graduates are generally scumbags. Their profession requires silence and incognito. And they show off how cool they are. It’s immediately clear that people don’t go to defend their homeland, but earn money with a crust ... Yes ... Today the people have been shredding ...
  8. Erg
    +8
    July 15 2016
    I, now, think - And what would Comrade Stalin say to this ... It is unlikely that he would mention the Urals.
  9. +26
    July 15 2016
    graduates who refuse to continue their service "beyond the Urals" will be offered to resign

    And what kind of a link is Ural Ugly? Tens of millions of Russians live outside the Urals and do not know about it. request belay
    Such "majors in uniform" should be dismissed from the service of the state. Well, or let them go to the army for a contract, so that the money spent on their training is not in vain. request
    1. +13
      July 15 2016
      Quote: K-50
      And what kind of a link is Ural Ugly? Tens of millions of Russians live outside the Urals and do not know about it.


      Yes, I was born already in exile laughing And I’ll say more, we’re juggling me in St. Petersburg and Moscow, you won’t even lure me from business trips laughing It is noisy, there are a lot of people, everyone is frantic of some kind (no offense to the inhabitants of these cities), everything is too big, there are a lot, everything is oversaturated by everyone, not mine, in general. Yes
      1. +2
        July 15 2016
        No offense, we are frantic for the very tomatoes. You can’t get so bored with people. He himself thought about retiring somewhere far away from Moscow to go, but now he would have lived out with the new laws. While the cottage at least somehow saves.
  10. +8
    July 15 2016
    And here we live and served beyond the Urals and nothing, we feel normal. Or for these graduates, everything beyond the Garden Ring is Siberia. Then for them it is the collapse of a career.
  11. MP
    +2
    July 15 2016
    The Urals - is it so far? :) In the Arctic!
    1. +5
      July 15 2016
      Quote: Mpx
      The Urals - is it so far? :) In the Arctic!

      To the Border Troops ... feel White bears to them, instead of black jeeps. laughing
  12. +9
    July 15 2016
    They survived .. Now they are punishing the Trans-Urals .. And they should go crazy with happiness that they were allowed to defend the security of the Homeland in the Trans-Urals ..
  13. +9
    July 15 2016
    it’s garbage, not punishment. After a year they’ll transfer to the central districts. It was necessary to offer to serve three years in the special forces. Refused, resignation (with reimbursement of tuition fees) of those serving, to see how he showed himself.
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  15. +7
    July 15 2016
    A little! I would write off everyone in a clean one. Divorced the "golden youth", how much wasted.
  16. +8
    July 15 2016
    "Graduates who refuse to continue their service" beyond the Urals "will be offered to resign"


    Hmm, now you can simply refuse to obey the order like this? Such things used to be called desertion. Go, then quit as you can, if you don't like it. Or is it schoolgirls who did not take the oath?
  17. +10
    July 15 2016
    These are the values ​​instilled in them during their studies at the academy. I doubt that these graduates love their people and country. Rather, there is a craving for a beautiful life and dolars
  18. +19
    July 15 2016
    will be punished by the Trans-Urals


    Wow punishment, I have lived my whole life, and many others, beyond the Urals, we all, it turns out, were punished, although the parades did not suit. Dear government, you simply must give all residents of the Trans-Urals Gelendvagena
  19. +10
    July 15 2016
    And what will these cadres gain in Siberia and the Far East? It is probably more correct to raise the question of professional suitability for moral and ethical reasons.
  20. +2
    July 15 2016
    "According to Forbes sources," graduates who have refused to continue serving 'beyond the Urals' will be offered to resign. " Collect all the money spent by the state on preparation !!!
  21. +10
    July 15 2016
    It is scary to even imagine what kind of "BENEFIT" our country can bring such pets of the FSB academy. And from here the question is, how do such citizens get to these educational institutions?
    1. +3
      July 15 2016
      Quote: Robin32
      And from here the question is, how do such citizens get into these educational institutions?

      Oh my God ... about pestles and stamens, do you also need to explain?
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  22. +8
    July 15 2016
    "..but preferably in July
    and preferably in the Crimea! "(c)

    Something rotted at the FSB Academy
    1. +2
      July 15 2016
      Not only at the academy ...
  23. +3
    July 15 2016
    Well, now they will arrange races there too fool and if they are simply kicked out of the FSB, why are they needed? or, now, in the spirit of the trend of the times, are these needed ??? am
  24. +12
    July 15 2016
    And what, for the disclosure of the entire issue they will not even be fired? !!
    And this collection of inferior subjects will continue to grow in the bowels of the FSB instead of cleaning our streets ?!
    And what is this punishment: sent for the Urals? Do we have half the country punished by birth? What nonsense? !!!

    -All! Lost the house! (Prof. Preobrazhensky)
  25. -21
    July 15 2016
    Well guys laughed, it's okay, remember yourself as lieutenants (who was), just now the guys have different opportunities at a different time.
    1. +6
      July 15 2016
      Just because of the straw in their heads, the "office" should not turn into a complete r ... oh! You have to be more modest in spite of the possibilities.
    2. +1
      July 16 2016
      It is clear to you (and more than once!) It was pointed out above that these lieutenants didn’t just make a mess, they broke away. They have posted their "faces" on the Internet, for all to see. If they were combined-arms tankmen-pilots - oh well, they broke away. And their service does not tolerate publicity, and who knows how they (and the worst thing is that not only them!) Will come back to haunt in the future. Again, in the comments above, someone very correctly noted that after graduating from the Academy (!) Of the FSB, they should have a powerful analytical apparatus on their shoulders, and they are not able to calculate one or two steps ahead of the consequences of their action ... Oh, something rotten in the Danish kingdom!
    3. +1
      July 18 2016
      Yes, all on the releases "played tricks". In our "system" the tradition was to anchor in the "Goluboy" stream, which flowed through the entire school. Then he was raised by the "Belarusian". On "Easter" I paint the bulls, which stand near the headquarters of the Baltic Fleet. Sew a striped vest and put it on "Neptune". Only these pranks apart from a joke - they did not carry anything humor and did not humiliate anyone, and they did not stick out us "boobies".
  26. +5
    July 15 2016
    The participants of the "parade" will be offered service in regions remote from the capital,
    Well, what kind of "idiocy" is it to scare people with the vastness of the Motherland. Well, they will be sent to regions remote from the capital, so I wonder who gets what. Apparently the “most guilty” is “American”, the “least guilty” is “European”, but the “most not guilty” is “Siberian”. You can also take a reprimand from the Supreme and until it is removed, and such Events can be counted on the fingers, not appointed to higher positions, not made any reward, including material, that is, not give bonuses. Let's see how real "Chekists" they are.
  27. +13
    July 15 2016
    These boys are initially unsuitable.
  28. 0
    July 15 2016
    If everything will be as it is written in the note - not bad already.
  29. +6
    July 15 2016
    those who came to earn "loot" all that is longer than the Garden Ring is a link
  30. Erg
    +8
    July 15 2016
    So what are they - these graduates of the FSB Academy ... It is immediately obvious that the security of the Fatherland is in good hands.
  31. +5
    July 15 2016
    Interesting logic! So, for service in the FSB in the Trans-Urals and in Siberia, they will leave ?! And for smart people - strictly Arbat military district? Oh well.
  32. +8
    July 15 2016
    LEARNING PUNISHMENT.

    Why is the Urals asked to punish these graduates?
  33. +8
    July 15 2016
    why the Trans-Urals ... what did the inhabitants of this region do? send them to Syria. to the Ishilovites. get intelligence.
    1. 0
      July 16 2016
      Sense from them there as from a goat of milk.
  34. +9
    July 15 2016
    Graduates of the FSB Academy who participated in the “Gelendvagen parade” will punish the Trans-Urals
    You might think that here far beyond the Urals, not people live. To me, too, "punished with Siberia"! You might think that we have little of our own with such show-offs. Why are they here? What a stupid habit of punishing the Motherland? Or is the Trans-Urals not Russia for their leadership? Then a question for the leadership, maybe the youth are just taking an example from their older comrades?
  35. +18
    July 15 2016
    1. Fine in the amount of payment for the entire period of study.
    2. Dismissal from the FSB and a lifelong ban on occupying any positions in the public administration system.
    This is the punishment! And the rest is stroking on the ass and a phased withdrawal from the blow of "sons", "tribes" and others. Five years beyond the Urals and back to the capital or abroad.
    Those who put themselves above people do not have the right to protect them.
    1. It is imperative that diplomas be annulled so that there is nothing to trump.
    2. 0
      July 17 2016
      Hit the top ten!
  36. +14
    July 15 2016
    Drive out BODIES without the right of restoration! Demote to privates. Already in the FSB and divorced MAJOR! Shame!
    1. +3
      July 15 2016
      what can we expect from them if the deputy head of the FSB in 2011, General Ushakov, can afford an anniversary worth $ 1 million. One of his daughters graduated from this FSB academy.
  37. +7
    July 15 2016
    Poorly taught this once, in vain learned this two! Under the KGB, it was not even possible to think about this. There were deserters-traitors, but such pontores that would hardly play for the public. And what is the fault of the Trans-Urals that she will be "made happy" with such personnel?
  38. Commanders otd / platoons and remote outposts, to love the motherland and understand the essence of punishment.

    "Graduates who refuse to continue their service" beyond the Urals "will be offered to resign."

    And all up to a penny for studying and uniforms to return to the budget of the country, plaque fly
  39. +5
    July 15 2016
    And then these employees will begin to torture the population of their own country ... for dollars ... like the neighbors are doing now.
  40. +7
    July 15 2016
    Quote: DMB_95
    Quote: RUSOIVAN
    yes: after all, not all FSB agents are equally useful!

    Such young FSB cadres are potential traitors. They are for the sake of dough and a cool car, their mother will sell, under / onki.

    In no place flinched: what am I doing? Kindergarten on the lawn .. Businessmen and careerists .. Who raised?
    1. 0
      July 15 2016
      Now flinched. And most importantly, the others startled.
  41. +6
    July 15 2016
    What is Siberia so guilty of? request
  42. +7
    July 15 2016
    Quote: cniza
    disperse everyone ...

    Hand on heart, this is the first thing that comes to mind. perfect is absolutely unthinkable and wild.
    In the place of the secret services of our "favorite" "partners", I would put a bold mark on each released individual. For the future, the material is ideal for work.
    However, what to do with the skills and information they have acquired in the learning process? Graduated from a non-culinary college. In general, the dilemma is "hard to bear - you can't quit." At least walled them up in the wall.
  43. +7
    July 15 2016
    Quote: DMB_95
    Such young FSB cadres are potential traitors. They are for the sake of dough and a cool car, their mother will sell, under / onki.

    None of them has the right to continue serving in the FSB or other power structure, because the brain was struck by a putrefactive fungus. Otherwise it will hurt when one of them in a couple of three years (the wave of indignation raised today will disappear) will again be in the structures and commit another offense according to his rotten morality. It's disgusting all !!!
  44. +3
    July 15 2016
    You do not understand the principle of punishment. The Trans-Urals region is poor and, unlike the European or southern part of Russia, there is less opportunity to earn ... a new car ... What difference does it make to us where they will protect drug trafficking or flatten business?
  45. +20
    July 15 2016
    This picture is a joke, of course, but seriously, it’s hard to imagine that KGB graduates could afford something like that. It would never have occurred to them. And on these current imperfections (to everything else), the state spent a lot of money and 5 years of time on their studies. All down the drain !!!
  46. +14
    July 15 2016
    I want to say - do not worry, not one of the graduates of this academy will go far, no stunning operations like this are being developed, they cannot help Russia abroad ... but it’s disgusting at heart.
    Academy is too big a name. It leaves the working meat of the FSB heavy bureaucratic system. This is the future of the FSB bureaucracy. There are investigators in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and these will be investigators in the womb of the FSB.
    They direct them to very serious matters from specialized universities (technical, economic, legal). These talented guys (because they look at the best of the best faculties, institutes, industries) very quickly get out into the leaders and drag the burden of protecting the homeland on themselves. Unfortunately, there is a constant struggle between the graduates of the Schools (as it is more correct to call the academy) of the FSB and those recruited from other universities.

    Throw major graduates over to the Urals, ruin regions - why should I have a bunch of aplomb, ambition and heavy crusts at the ready in such important places of our Motherland?
  47. +13
    July 15 2016
    It looks like they were graduates of House-2, not the FSB Academy.
  48. +8
    July 15 2016
    It is not necessary to drive for the Urals ...! Do dishonest citizens live beyond the Urals? From such and grow "Kalugins", "Rezuns" and others!
    Only the desires of community members and threats from the leadership, not marketing ones, there is one "golden youth"
  49. +4
    July 15 2016
    Nothing changes - the system. Some will be punished, but the rest is a liberal grin.
  50. +14
    July 15 2016
    And what is the service in the Trans-Urals - now a punishment? But what about hundreds and thousands of other officers serving there? Punished too? For what? It was necessary to educate while studying, so that they did not exchange for cheap show-offs.
    1. +10
      July 15 2016
      After all, there are tests for aptitude, it turns out the whole course was conducted on the cookies of Gelendvagen? So fast and instant? All learning to invest and get major release? Something is wrong somewhere in the system.
      1. 0
        July 18 2016
        There is a professional selection which is required of many exams. I understand them, once-in-a-lifetime release is their holiday, here sometimes weddings are made worse
  51. +5
    July 15 2016
    Link to Siberia??? No need to go to my Siberia!!! Leave it in Moscow!!! They are good...
  52. +3
    July 15 2016
    Fresh food, but it’s hard to shit! (well, almost according to Alexander Sergeevich)
    Very hard to believe. I think that the statement is “to the public”...
  53. +3
    July 15 2016
    Enough money to come in, enough to unlearn, enough to play around, enough to pay off....fucking realities...
  54. +9
    July 15 2016
    Quote: Mavrikiy
    And people not only serve (serve their sentences) beyond the Urals, but also live (for life?). Where is the compensation for not going to Moscow? It's time to drive.

    Accurately noted, I always have the feeling when I watch the news that Moscow is not the capital of our Motherland, but another state and people of Muscovite nationality live in it. It’s probably not in vain that Zhirinovsky proposes to move the capital of the Russian Federation beyond the Urals.
  55. +3
    July 15 2016
    Quote: captain
    I did not know that service beyond the Urals was a punishment. What is interesting for the FSB’s homeland?

    He also opened his mouth wide in surprise. It turns out that those who still live with us beyond the Urals are exiles? An interesting situation, especially in connection with the distribution of land beyond the same Urals)))
  56. +3
    July 15 2016
    All this is sad to the core! Is it really possible that such rot is growing in the FSB apparatus? It’s good that people like that don’t go to the FSB special forces, because they can kill there and the money isn’t that great!
    1. +2
      July 15 2016
      It has been there for a long time, their folders from the KGB of the USSR were sold, so everything is generally logical
  57. +1
    July 15 2016
    Look how! They scared us with the vastness of the Motherland!
  58. +1
    July 15 2016
    "Don't judge rashly." In this case, the measure is quite adequate - to punish for boyishness, and not to break. It is not entirely correct to compare with the “chekists” of previous years - then already formed serious people who had a higher education behind them, years of work/service, etc. came to the authorities. But ask the leadership of the Academy to the fullest extent for defects in production.
    1. +2
      July 15 2016
      Quote: Knizhnik
      "Don't judge rashly." In this case, the measure is quite adequate - to punish for boyishness, and not to break. It is not entirely correct to compare with the “chekists” of previous years - then already formed serious people who had a higher education behind them, years of work/service, etc. came to the authorities. But ask the leadership of the Academy to the fullest extent for defects in production.

      No, yes, the children were naughty, but who sponsored it? I saw a couple of these UAZs here in Israel. Looks like it's not a cheap toy, where does a graduate get such funds?
      1. +5
        July 15 2016
        "Galiki" are not personal. There are two versions: “rented for the last penny”, or “dad’s car”. From the reaction I understood that we don’t believe in “renting”...
        The second version is clearly a “hereditary corrupt official”; graduates do not even voice it.
        What I am trying to say is that the boyish act should be punished in such a way that it will be a lesson for life and the country will benefit more. “Driven out of the authorities with a filthy broom” is an extreme measure that can be resorted to at the end of an individual trial. It should concern “ideological” window dressing, who have other values ​​in life, which should not have a place in the “organs”. For others - who are simply carried away by the desire to misbehave, to act out, dismissal will be an unfair blow, breaking not only their career, but also their life.
        This is my position, I am ready to work as a judge on this and other episodes hi
  59. +2
    July 15 2016
    F-B or M-D have mostly been gangsters in these schools for a long time. And you can sympathize with the Trans-Urals, if only they would sit in Moscow and deal with ethnic crime. And so
    as many speak out to resign.
  60. +4
    July 15 2016
    Without considering myself a great expert, I remember facts from Russian literature. In Kuprin's Junkers and Dostoevsky's Demons, punishment is mentioned and for less - being sent to the soldiers. Stavrogin regained his officer rank after being wounded and receiving the St. George Cross; cadet Alexandrov was impressed by this clause of the charter, he stopped going to the punishment cell for boyish antics. There are other examples, Dolokhov in Tolstoy’s War and Peace, for example. I agree with the forum, the Ural - what kind of punishment is this? Happy to go to the Caucasus for a year, get your brains straight, those who don’t want to - resignation without the right of return. And the fact that they began to react harshly, regardless of connections and titles, I consider unconditional progress!
  61. +6
    July 15 2016
    The son of a special services general, a complete bastard, served with my son in the Presidential Regiment, for which he was repeatedly punished; I would not be surprised that this character was among those who dissected non-Geliks!
  62. +3
    July 15 2016
    And why did the residents of the Trans-Urals wrong their Motherland by sending them such “unfinished officers”? Unprincipled cattle should not wear shoulder straps, not even a forester.
    1. 0
      July 15 2016
      Quote: Trofim
      And why did the residents of the Trans-Urals wrong their Motherland by sending them such “unfinished officers”? Unprincipled cattle should not wear shoulder straps, not even a forester.

      They themselves rip off the shoulder straps of anyone. They were taught this.
  63. +5
    July 15 2016
    Well, why are you scolding the kids? fellow This is just the “cherry on the cake” for the entire education system, because even such an institution (it’s hard to wrap my head around request ) produces unsuitable people. And the teachers (the highest class of work) batted their eyes smile , while the boys spent the whole school year choosing cars. And what about “patronage assistance” bully beyond all praise.
  64. +1
    July 15 2016
    Pontor cutters! And the FSB officers are there too!
    Football players in Monaco, security officers in Geliki, I would like to hope that these people’s homeland is not only the place where they spread thicker sandwiches!
  65. +3
    July 15 2016
    The decision is right.
    But at the same time... This is how this can happen in the 21st century with a developed civilized country...
    We don’t have life beyond the “Ural”!
    Even such phrases as sending someone to the east tell us that Russia is not developing proportionally and it is high time to break the concept of the European part! In the East, China, South Korea and Japan are countries with which we (Russia) vitally need to deepen cooperation in all areas and end this vector to the West, because This vector causes addiction, which we clearly see in the example of sanctions!
    Russia must develop not only to the west, but also to the east and south.
  66. +1
    July 15 2016
    Quote: wks
    Quote: captain
    I did not know that service beyond the Urals was a punishment. What is interesting for the FSB’s homeland?

    For the whole population of the Trans-Urals, this is the Motherland, and for the FSB officer it is a prison. Can such a FSB of Russia be dispersed at all on occasion and recruit normal people there?

    Don't engage in demagoguery. They were not sent to prison, but to the “outback”, which no one calls a prison, but there are far fewer career opportunities. In essence, they cut short their careers and sent them to work off the time spent on their training. This is and has been practiced always and everywhere. They were sent away after their prank; how those prone to pranks ended up in such an educational institution is another matter. This means that someone didn’t pay enough attention, somewhere the training process went awry, and that’s why the shoulder straps flew and early retirement was revealed.

    RџSЂRё nurture intelligence officers need to maintain a delicate balance: on the one hand, modesty, restraint, invisibility, on the other hand, an understanding of their own importance and the absence of any pressures, complexes, even some a sense of supra-publicness and at the same time serving society. This is a difficult process, in which sometimes students are allowed some liberties. In essence, it was a social exam, which these graduates failed miserably.
  67. +3
    July 15 2016
    Show-offs turned out to be more expensive than a career!
    1. +4
      July 15 2016
      This is a special edition! With diplomas in specialization "Discrediting the FSB and working as triple agents"
      1. 0
        July 22 2016
        We are all talking here about where to send the boys away, like punish them. Why not go to hot spots, give them a chance to confirm their maturity and professionalism.
        What measures have been taken by the internal security department towards the organizers who donated this car rally, and even with video shooting? fool . If this becomes a tradition, then...... stop
  68. +1
    July 15 2016
    in my opinion, the situation with these majors is stalemate: on the one hand, an embittered FSB officer (and even if not), in the Trans-Ural region he is like a ticking bomb, a potential traitor at worst and a corrupt specialist in his field at best, on the other hand it is impossible not to punish, will completely disband...maybe it would be better to create a separate group from them? And keeping them together under control... well, that’s just an attempt to offer an option.
  69. +4
    July 15 2016
    They didn’t go to work for the FSB, but to acquire connections (it has become fashionable), their daddies in the USA have real estate and bank accounts, they are obvious clients of US counterintelligence. Who just accepted them? Which FSB officer provided protection?
  70. 0
    July 15 2016
    before abandoning the agent, he must be thoroughly hidden, dirty, destroyed into dust, they say there is no such thing, oh, you are welcome to play hide and seek with us, you can learn something from us, we are not suckers, although we are walking more and more...
  71. +1
    July 15 2016
    What kind of formulation of the question, “if graduates refuse to leave Trans-Urals, they will be fired.” Of course they will refuse! It is naive to think that they need work, housing, or money.
    There is an oath and they took it! Distribute where necessary and whoever refuses or philanders at work will be on COURT!
  72. 0
    July 15 2016
    “Show-off” does not suit either the FSB officer, the prime minister, the traffic police officer, or any government official... or even any well-mannered person.
    It would be a good idea to extend the practice of “trans-Ural re-education” to all of these categories of employees!
  73. 0
    July 15 2016
    Quote: Pereira
    Judah is growing up.
    Now they, who have suffered for nothing, are offended by Russia.

    It would be more correct to say that Judas is becoming homosexual.
  74. +2
    July 15 2016
    And you say - the CIA is no longer the same, the FSB is also not the same...
  75. +1
    July 15 2016
    Lost generation.
  76. 0
    July 15 2016
    Speaking of birds. The occupying Germans were surprised that even rural residents of the USSR knew the basics of the German language.
    Gelandewagen in Russian - Gelandewagen, i.e. a cart for driving outside the city, along the “terrain”, i.e. SUV. In our country, this device is called differently: “Gelenvagen”, “Gelentvagen”, “Heliovagen”. It's reminiscent of gradefruit, grapefruit. It's a shame for the country.
  77. +1
    July 15 2016
    All this is strange... first of all, that the source is Forbes, and secondly, the concept of “beyond the Urals,” excuse me, is very vague for a person who has even once looked at a map of Russia. And if I were the “trans-Urals” I would be offended.
    Some kind of stupidity that many will perceive as good Friday news and will rejoice.
  78. +7
    July 15 2016
    Puppies they are puppies, but the fact that the leadership punished them correctly, they did not teach them the main thing, the code of honor of a Russian officer
    Code of honor of the Russian officer of the 18th century
    1. Do not promise if you are not sure that you will fulfill the promise.
    2. Keep yourself simple, with dignity, without fatigue.
    3. It is necessary to remember that border where politeness full of dignity ends and cringing begins.
    4. Do not write rash letters and reports rashly.
    5. Be less frank - you will regret it. Remember: my tongue is my enemy!
    6. Do not cut it - you can’t prove daring, but you’ll compromise yourself.
    7. Do not rush to get on a short foot with a person whom you have not recognized enough.
    8. Avoid cash accounts with friends. Money always spoils relationships.
    9. Do not take offensive remarks, pranks, ridicule said afterwards, which often happens on the streets and in public places, at your own expense. Be above it. Go away - you won’t lose, but you will get rid of the scandal.
    10. If you can’t say anything good about someone, then refrain from talking bad, if you know.
    11. Do not neglect anyone's advice - listen. The right, whether to follow it or not, will remain with you. Managing to take good advice from another is no less an art than giving yourself good advice.
    12. The officer’s strength is not in impulses, but in indestructible calm.
    13. Take care of the reputation of the woman who trusted you, no matter who she is.
    14. There are situations in life when you need to silence your heart and live with reason.
    15. The secret that you have communicated to at least one person only ceases to be a secret.
    16. Always be on the lookout and don't dissolve.
    17. Try to keep your words soft in the argument, and your arguments firm. Try not to annoy the enemy, but to convince him.
    18. At public masquerades, officers are not allowed to dance.
    19. When speaking, avoid gestures and do not raise your voice.
    20. If you entered a society in the midst of which there is a person with whom you are in a quarrel, then, greeting everyone, it is customary to give a hand and to him, of course, if this cannot be avoided without paying attention to those present or to the owners. Giving a hand does not give rise to excessive talk, but does not oblige you to anything.
    21. Nothing teaches as awareness of one’s mistake. This is one of the main means of self-education. Only he who does nothing is not mistaken.
    22. When two people quarrel, both are always to blame.
    23. Authority is acquired by knowledge of business and service. It is important that subordinates respect you, not be afraid. Where there is fear, there is no love, but there is an undercurrent of hostility or hatred.
    24. There is nothing worse than indecision. Better a worse decision than hesitation or inaction. You will not return the missed moment.
    25. The one who fears nothing is more powerful than the one whom everyone fears.
  79. +3
    July 15 2016
    Ready-made “werewolves in uniform”.
    1. 0
      July 15 2016
      If not the Penkovskys...
  80. +3
    July 15 2016
    Yes, our state security officers have become shallow if they only have clumsy show-offs on their minds!
  81. +1
    July 15 2016
    It’s strange when the Gelik became a luxury car, it has always been an analogue of the UAZ, a harsh army all-terrain vehicle adapted for civilian use, and it costs 5 million, but for a Mercedes this is, in principle, not much.
    The guys didn’t break the rules, the only thing is that the faces posted the photos online, and this is considered the end of a career in the FSB, in general, the guys acted stupidly, although no one has yet canceled natural selection.
  82. +2
    July 15 2016
    Excellent division - beyond the Urals, are we all punished? According to this criterion, I was originally born punished
  83. +4
    July 15 2016
    It was like that in the late 80s. I’m standing in line at the ticket office, there are 20 people in front of me, about a dozen behind me... A man comes up, I know he’s a military man, he brought the boy to the emergency room, he called the number of the military unit. He asks to buy a ticket. I tell him, why not at the war chest?
    And he says: the authorities do not recommend that we show our documents everywhere. This is how respect for service was brought up in the KGB. And these boys decided to show everyone that the only thing cooler than them is the elephant’s bells. fool
  84. +2
    July 15 2016
    These graduates are a reflection of our society. Unfortunately, most of them are sons of senior ranks from an office that already equates itself to the “golden youth”. As a rule, these highest ranks have gone through a lot, served in different regions, traveled half the country, but do not want to let their children far from them. But that's not the point...
    For me, the FSB Academy in Moscow is not the best option, incl. and in terms of conspiracy. And in terms of shaping the moral character of the future employee, it’s a complete failure. The management of the office should think about moving it to the distant ZaMkadye - where the “golden youth” will not go! Or using it only for retraining officers.
  85. +1
    July 15 2016
    We still need to send half of them to Dagestan, and after 5 years the rotation should be carried out to Mother Siberia.
  86. 0
    July 15 2016
    I wonder if these graduates staged a “parade” not in Helikas but in UAZ “Patriots”? Were there the same consequences?
  87. 0
    July 15 2016
    Quote: Vladimir61
    It is not necessary to drive for the Urals ...! Do dishonest citizens live beyond the Urals? From such and grow "Kalugins", "Rezuns" and others!
    Only the desires of community members and threats from the leadership, not marketing ones, there is one "golden youth"

    - Urgently THEM in Sochi(!)...here at each Olympic venue there are continuous checkpoints with three guards, a salary of 15 thousand rubles (!), a uniform and a “dorm” for free...
  88. +2
    July 15 2016
    Homeland... Proficiency... etc., etc. Do you think they studied there for the sake of their homeland? They studied in order to get cool skills, with the help of which they could earn cool money. And those who said that these graduates of Moscow universities will explore the Trans-Ural region were somewhat cunning. This is usually done by graduates of border guard institutes from Kaliningrad or Khabarovsk. But Muscovites’ status and parents don’t allow them... there are warmer places for them.
  89. +2
    July 15 2016
    Now these employees also need to be monitored?
  90. -1
    July 15 2016
    I think all this was arranged by “graduate students” of rich dads from the Caucasus (their style..)))))...Who will have nothing to do with it, but the normal ones will suffer! I would completely disband this “academy” to hell....!!!
  91. +1
    July 15 2016
    Trans-Urals is certainly not the end of the world, but there is still life there...(for children "@-ek"). Transbaikalia is closer to the edge of the world, but there is life there too... (for children "@-ek"). In Primorye, Sakhalin and Kamchatka it is already the end of the world due to the geographical proximity of the date line, but there is almost no life there... (for children "@-ek"). But ordinary PEOPLE live and serve from the Urals to Kamchatka, but their life is much worse than that of ... (descendants of "@"-ek). I once heard the phrase “there is no life beyond the Moscow Ring Road,” so this is about you and me, comrades!
  92. +2
    July 15 2016
    Quote: domokl
    I’m wondering, what did these same graduates violate? What if they rented a pleasure boat? Then everyone would be scattered around the coastal cities? I’m even afraid to imagine where they sent those who rented the tavern on Tverskaya after graduation...Madhouse and pandering to the “people”...

    Pandering to the people? Marshal, you have become separated from the people. What car do you drive? Where did the pimple get this mars from? In my early 20s. Absolutely oh...la top. I'd start with dads. If the young guy doesn’t understand what he’s doing, it’s the fault of the fucking dad and fucking mom. And put all the families of the “fiery Dzerzhin residents” on an income of 20 thousand rubles a month for about a year.
  93. +1
    July 15 2016
    Quote: ProkletyiPirat
    no "indulging the people"
    And in general, the FSB as a service is one of the pillars of statehood, because if it simply falls in the eyes of the people, it will come back to haunt the state as a whole and the government in particular, if they really fulfill the above words, then the top of the FSB understands this...


    I agree very much. If we remember well the recent past of our state, then it was the discrediting of the KGB and the Ministry of Internal Affairs in the late 80s that was given very great importance in the collapse of the state. Remember the flow of dirt on radio and television to the KGB and the Ministry of Internal Affairs, remember black films, etc. The result was a strong decline in authority in the eyes of citizens, up to a disdainful attitude towards the services themselves, and towards the issue of the rule of law in general, and towards issues of security of the Motherland. The lack of support from the population disarmed the KGB and predetermined the course of events in 1991 and 1993.
    Under no circumstances should we allow precedents for the decline in the authority of the FSB in society. It seems like this rake already existed. Therefore, it is imperative to stop any discrediting behavior. Those who agreed to serve in exile realized and, perhaps, will still benefit the Motherland. Those who refused go there.
  94. +4
    July 15 2016
    Dear forum members, my comment will seem somewhat negative to YOU, BUT this was to be expected from these “thieves” with “hairy paws” and the like. After all, the era of the Soviet Union is passing away with its powerful ideology, the system of training personnel intelligence officers, the concept of duty and honor, and the like. With the era, the BISONs go away and are replaced by this ............ (selective obscenities) - it’s a shame. To be honest, I’m afraid for my safety with such “defenders”. And even more so for the country. And why insult OUR TRANS-URAL REGION so much by sending these bastards there. There, after all, the consulate will recruit them for something good and we will get a lot of defectors, traitors and all sorts of leaders of organized crime groups.
  95. It depends on you, but I liked their passage in formation! It was perceived as an answer to the isolated “golden boys” - we are strong and will strangle you! Moreover, they took the cars together as their own. It could be a good tradition (like horse farming near Peter in Leningrad wink ) when served correctly! Just replace the geldings with something of your own, such as a “Tiger” or, better yet, an armored car “Punisher” (I don’t remember what its name is). It was the only face that could not be shown. With their service, showing off at graduation is not a sin at all! hi
  96. 0
    July 15 2016
    I remember Pikul had something similar. There, GG significantly messed up (which, by the way, his father did not tolerate), for which he was demonstrably convicted and exiled to some kind of darkness, where later he, without arousing much suspicion, worked according to his disgusting profile. Who knows? GPU-NKVD-KGB-FSB is such an office that... request
    In short, “not everything is so simple,” gentlemen!
  97. 0
    July 16 2016
    Quote: domokl
    ...Madhouse and pandering to the “people”...

    You have to be more modest, more modest...And so it turns out that the FSB Academy trains bastards who flaunt their position (what kind of traffic police are they, they are afraid of them). Masters of life...How much money do you need to rent such a number of luxury SUVs? Maybe should they lower their salaries in order to save government money? The KGB employees were somehow “encrypted”, many people around them did not know where they served, but these, I don’t know how to choose a word so that the admins would miss it! And at the Academy the atmosphere is the same -after all, they were trained there! Both the management and the teachers poorly educate their students! negative hi
  98. 0
    July 16 2016
    The aptitude test was failed. Everyone should have been kicked out in disgrace and banned from working in any such structures.
  99. +1
    July 16 2016
    Quote: _Vladislav_
    An act on the level of glamorous pop and golden youth, but not an FSB officer.


    Do you think they study there - nuggets from the outback?!!!

    Only """golden""" youth!!!!!!!!!!

    And who will now pick up and raise after them the banner of showing off and disregard?

    I answer: some academy of the Ministry of Internal Affairs!

    Just need to wait a little...

    It’s not a shame for the power, it’s scary for the power!!!!!!!!!!!!
  100. 0
    July 16 2016
    We don't need the "golden boys of the FSB" in the Trans-Urals and Urals!!! BE CALM, IN A YEAR THEY WILL BE AT THE HEAD!

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