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Graduates of the FSB Academy who participated in the “Gelendvagen parade” will punish the Trans-Urals

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Several senior staff of the FSB Academy will be dismissed, and some will be demoted due to the massive arrival of high school graduates in Mercedes-Benz Gelandewagen cars in Moscow. The participants of the “parade” themselves will be offered service in regions remote from the capital, reports Ридус, the press service of the department.




“For the first time in many years, during the ceremonial events outside the service, students were allowed to take action, which attracted increased public attention,” the release said.

It is noted that "their immodest demonstrative personal behavior ... caused a fair resentment of citizens and a sharp condemnation in military teams of security agencies, as not complying with the Code of Ethics and official conduct."

“Strict disciplinary measures have been applied to the leadership of the Academy, including a number of managers who have been demoted, some will be submitted to dismissal,” the agency added.

As for the participants of the race themselves, “they have made fundamental personal decisions to change the conditions of their service”. Many perpetrators will be suspended from operational work and sent to distant garrisons for service.

According to sources from the Forbes publication, "graduates who refused to continue their service" beyond the Urals "will be offered to resign."

Recall, 21 June, dozens of graduates of the Academy of the FSB staged a ride on the central streets of the capital on the 28-m luxury SUV Mercedes-Benz Gelandewagen, attracting everyone's attention. Then the video of this "VIP-parade" themselves posted in the "world wide web."
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  1. RUSOIVAN
    RUSOIVAN 15 July 2016 09: 30
    +78
    yes: after all, not all FSB agents are equally useful!
    1. Wild_grey_wolf
      Wild_grey_wolf 15 July 2016 09: 37
      +24
      So if from any iron learn to boast. . . and now it counts as NORMAL. . .
      1. Aroma77
        Aroma77 15 July 2016 10: 36
        +12
        Growing up of a miscarriage.
        1. Pereira
          Pereira 15 July 2016 11: 25
          +50
          Judah is growing up.
          Now they, who have suffered for nothing, are offended by Russia.
          1. potroshenko
            potroshenko 15 July 2016 11: 55
            +10
            Quote: Pereira
            Judah is growing up.
            Now they, who have suffered for nothing, are offended by Russia.

            Are you sure that all these voiced punishments will be put into effect? After all, they can wait until the time when the topic is forgotten, and then they will return everything.
            1. Pereira
              Pereira 15 July 2016 13: 00
              +11
              I am sure that everyone’s personal file already has a corresponding mark.
              What do you think, in about five years, who will personally be able to instruct the local personnel officers to no longer pay attention to these notes?
          2. soaring
            soaring 15 July 2016 12: 16
            +34
            Pereira
            Judah is growing up.
            Now they, who have suffered for nothing, are offended by Russia.

            Now they are not only offended, they will do any thing ... but to take out their insult ... And what do you think, you can turn over such an asshole for a lot of UE, or he will go for it in order to take revenge on someone who does not understand his "impulse" to the state and certain people in particular !?
            1. Pereira
              Pereira 15 July 2016 13: 04
              +25
              I do not think that they can hope for a good career.
              I'm worried about something else. Next year's release will be more careful, although by nature they are exactly the same.
              1. Jack-b
                Jack-b 15 July 2016 13: 19
                +11
                Quote: Pereira
                Next year's release will be more careful, although by nature they are exactly the same.

                Well, it seems like voiced and punishment for leadership and teachers. So there is hope that the next release will be different.
                1. Pereira
                  Pereira 15 July 2016 14: 42
                  +11
                  Is not a fact. How many study there? Three, four years? In any case, most of the term of study was taught by the same people as the current issue. These are also spoiled. And in the 2013,14,15 releases, I'm also not sure anymore.
                2. SergeBS
                  SergeBS 16 July 2016 22: 51
                  +1
                  Quote: Jack-B
                  Well, it seems like voiced and punishment for leadership and teachers. So there is hope that the next release will be different.

                  A long time ago (even under J.V. Stalin, in 1936, it seems), COURSERS of the Academy of the General Staff seem to have "distinguished themselves." The then chief was first removed (with a bunch of "implicated"), and then also "slapped".
                  Let's hope that the story regarding RADICAL re-education measures will not be needed.
        2. NordUral
          NordUral 15 July 2016 11: 40
          +22
          You study the history of the oprichnina. Perhaps change your attitude towards them. And this is the future traitors grow up.
          1. Pereira
            Pereira 15 July 2016 13: 02
            +5
            You study the history of the oprichnina.


            I was learning. Oprichnikov was demonized by the liberals of the times of Ivan the Terrible. Oddly enough it sounds, but there were such. Just called differently.
          2. Stas157
            Stas157 15 July 2016 14: 10
            +19
            Quote: NordUral
            You study the history of the oprichnina.

            Oprichniki were demonized, just like Ivan the Terrible! And, thanks to them, Ivan 4 remained in power, otherwise the lovers would have killed the tsar to arrange unrest of the princes, and boyars. Why doesn’t anyone remember what role the Oprichniks played in the military campaigns of Grozny!
            The guardsmen had existed for only 7 years, but rumors of their reprisals against the people were already enough for three kings! The main function of the guardsmen was different, it was the king’s support against the boyars and princes.
            1. SergeBS
              SergeBS 16 July 2016 23: 03
              +5
              Quote: Stas157
              Oprichniki were demonized, just like Ivan the Terrible!

              +! Especially when you consider that this "bloody tyrant" REALLY destroyed hundreds of times fewer opponents of his power than "democrats" from "enlightened" Europe.
              As a result, the phrase "European democracy" makes me laugh, no more. drinks
          3. Andrey Zh
            Andrey Zh 16 July 2016 22: 23
            +4
            Heroes and traitors study side by side, but everyone makes his own choice!
        3. PHANTOM-AS
          PHANTOM-AS 17 July 2016 09: 53
          +3
          Where did the FSB get money for heliks? And what do they protect, peace of the country or power?
          1. goblin xnumx
            goblin xnumx 17 July 2016 13: 47
            +4
            there is no way to get to this university from the outside - only along related lines - "inherited work" or loot - so most likely they will be pardoned and after a couple (or maybe less) they will return to the capital and their return will only strengthen their faith in their majesty
      2. demchuk.ig
        demchuk.ig 16 July 2016 11: 06
        +2
        Quote: Wild_Grey_Wolf
        So if from any iron learn to boast. . . and now it counts as NORMAL. . .

        Ethics and morality are nothing! Ponty is everything!
    2. DMB_95
      DMB_95 15 July 2016 09: 38
      +99
      Quote: RUSOIVAN
      yes: after all, not all FSB agents are equally useful!

      Such young FSB cadres are potential traitors. They are for the sake of dough and a cool car, their mother will sell, under / onki.
      1. captain
        captain 15 July 2016 09: 48
        +93
        I did not know that service beyond the Urals was a punishment. What is interesting for the FSB’s homeland?
        1. Baloo
          Baloo 15 July 2016 09: 55
          +27
          Will they go on gelenvagens? So maybe with the roads it will become better. wassat
        2. Jack-b
          Jack-b 15 July 2016 09: 57
          +33
          Quote: captain
          I did not know that service beyond the Urals was a punishment. What is interesting for the FSB’s homeland?
          So the border guard is also the FSB. He learned to catch spies, and went to guard the border. The question is not even where it is better or worse, but what I expected and received.
          1. domokl
            domokl 15 July 2016 10: 49
            +3
            Quote: Jack-B
            So the border guard is also the FSB. At

            Every donkey must wear his coca ...
          2. vinc
            vinc 15 July 2016 11: 08
            +33
            You think they learned to catch spies. Do you think they generally studied. Therefore, I think the leadership of the academy was hurt (how did such graduates work for teachers? For money? Or are they just dumb? And if they were dumb, did they reach the graduation?) Disgrace.
            What is the border for them to protect the toilets.
            1. Jack-b
              Jack-b 15 July 2016 13: 17
              +1
              Quote: Vinci
              Do you think they generally studied.

              Studied. Another thing is that something was lost. You forget that these are almost yesterday's children. Only university graduated. It is clear that young and hot. Nakosyachili. Restrictions on service and the stigma for life will be a very severe punishment for them. How would you react to this trick and punishment if your son was among these graduates? I personally don’t know. I certainly believe that punishment should be. The FSB is too serious an office for snot and forgiveness honestly. Well, what kind of punishment should it be, I think they will figure it out. That punishment that is voiced, I do not think is soft.
              1. vinc
                vinc 15 July 2016 16: 42
                +13
                Missed apparently the most important thing. Do you think children are 22-25 years old? normal people still have time to work while studying so that parents don’t sit on their necks, and they’re already thinking about their children. And tomorrow people will be led to terrorists, to defend someone (as officers' epaulets), and they have heliks in their heads. What kind of shisha, such lily of the valley. And they have already chosen their own firms which trusts can be (by the way Xivas).
                1. Paranoid50
                  Paranoid50 16 July 2016 23: 28
                  +6
                  Quote: Vinci
                  Missed apparently the most important thing.

                  And it seems that such a topic is not only in the FSB. I have literally under my windows (Peter) the University of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, - the locals jokingly call it Cop-Hogwarts (in the mornings, the girls cadets are forced to sweep the adjacent territory, and, I tell you, it really looks like it). The future guardians are observed daily. So, a couple of times in the same minibus (they have a hostel on the other side of the city) they had to put in their place the children (rudeness, math-rewind), judging by the chevrons, the fourth and fifth course. They arrange the same lawlessness at the metro station of Veterans Ave., insolently interfering with their cars (collect their own) public transport. The trend, however ... So soon in every district we will have a "26th department" (a well-known cesspool), but not one ... Well, this is, so to speak, "internal affairs", we will figure it out inside (and at least ourselves ). But, s..a, GB am
              2. AID.S
                AID.S 15 July 2016 20: 56
                +10
                Are they the kids? I think that the irresponsibility shown by graduates may have the worst consequences for the country's security in the future, and therefore it is better to wipe out the entire issue of these idiots to a citizen, with a ban on traveling abroad before the expiration of the secrecy period. Let them go to businessmen, managers, etc., etc., majors will not disappear.
              3. SergeBS
                SergeBS 16 July 2016 23: 21
                +4
                Quote: Jack-B
                That punishment that is voiced, I do not think is soft.

                It is VERY soft. They’ll just be sent by the deputy guards for educational work at the frontier posts (former PPR smile ) to Yamal, Chukotka, etc., if I understood correctly. The "crusts" will not be taken away (ie the "tower" will remain). Then they will rattle off as lucky - and in private security companies. With "cool ksiva" and DATING + "hammered into the spinal cord" rules of work on objects. And half (if not more) of the current graduates of Universities (former polytechnics) will be envious. Guaranteed distribution, non-acidic monetary allowance, "brand", although idiots, but from the FIRM!
            2. forester
              forester 16 July 2016 20: 43
              +1
              Quote: Vinci
              to protect them toilets

              Better to wash and clean
        3. 97110
          97110 15 July 2016 10: 22
          +24
          Quote: captain
          I did not know that service beyond the Urals was a punishment.

          "Graduates who refuse to continue their service" beyond the Urals "will be offered to resign."
          Received a prestigious education for the state. account, overgrown with the necessary connections and made a pen. Encouragement, I can not name otherwise. Wait for the next year general Gelenda parade. Yeah, the Chekists are over. Come in, enemy, into the country. Price of admission ticket according to the price list. The head of the country is not a stranger in this area. What is going on upstairs?
          1. ProkletyiPirat
            ProkletyiPirat 15 July 2016 11: 07
            +4
            and what "useful connections" have yesterday's students who have not served anywhere?
            1. your1970
              your1970 15 July 2016 15: 43
              +3
              they would have connections if they served, and no one needs those who have not served, without a "booklet" there is no roof of them
          2. Uryukc
            Uryukc 15 July 2016 13: 49
            -2
            Is everyone now guillat? All the same, there are more serious violations.
          3. VALERIK_097
            VALERIK_097 15 July 2016 17: 37
            +6
            Yeah, the Chekists are over. 97110 (3) RU Today, 10:22 ↑
            I’ll ask you not to speak for everyone. I know a lot of decent people in the FSB department, the whole burden of re-educating these races will fall on them .....
            1. sabakina
              sabakina 15 July 2016 20: 16
              +5
              Quote: VALERIK_097
              Yeah, the Chekists are over. 97110 (3) RU Today, 10:22 ↑
              I’ll ask you not to speak for everyone. I know a lot of decent people in the FSB department, the whole burden of re-educating these races will fall on them .....

              I wonder what Stirlitz would say to this? ... Judging by his face, I know!
        4. WKS
          WKS 15 July 2016 10: 23
          +31
          Quote: captain
          I did not know that service beyond the Urals was a punishment. What is interesting for the FSB’s homeland?

          For the whole population of the Trans-Urals, this is the Motherland, and for the FSB officer it is a prison. Can such a FSB of Russia be dispersed at all on occasion and recruit normal people there?
          1. SergeBS
            SergeBS 16 July 2016 23: 52
            +1
            Quote: wks
            For the whole population of the Trans-Urals, this is the Motherland, and for the FSB officer it is a prison.

            Well, don't be SO sad. In the Trans-Urals, on the coast, there are FULL places where FORMALLY - the border zone, but in fact - well, there is absolutely nothing to catch. Compared to the coast of the Kola Peninsula, for example. Which is ALSO a border area, but there are "slightly" other piers, etc.
            But they won’t send them to the Pacific Fleet. IMHO. For NEFIG!
        5. Yarik
          Yarik 15 July 2016 10: 24
          +32
          And this is from the series "There is no life beyond the Moscow Ring Road" wink laughing
        6. Yarik
          Yarik 15 July 2016 10: 24
          +2
          And this is from the series "There is no life beyond the Moscow Ring Road" wink laughing
        7. Mavrikiy
          Mavrikiy 15 July 2016 10: 26
          +34
          Quote: captain
          I did not know that service beyond the Urals was a punishment. What is interesting for the FSB’s homeland?

          And people not only serve (serve time) beyond the Urals, but also live (life?). Where are the compensations for not getting into Moscow? It's time to introduce.
          1. Captain45
            Captain45 15 July 2016 12: 19
            +10
            Quote: Mavrikiy
            And people not only serve (serve time) beyond the Urals, but also live (life?). Where are the compensations for not getting into Moscow? It's time to introduce.

            We were late with the offer. Nobody canceled the regional coefficients to the salary. In the Far North, as it was 80% regional + 8 "polar" (80% more) and remained. True, not everyone here can withstand, you know the polar night, winter 9 months -50, imported fruits and vegetables with a wrapping of 200-300% to the "mainland", plane tickets on vacation for 80-100 thousand per family one way. wink
            1. SergeBS
              SergeBS 17 July 2016 00: 04
              +1
              Quote: Captain45
              They were late with the offer. Nobody canceled the district salary coefficients.

              And a year and a half at the servicemen where? Really canceled? belay
              1. Paranoid50
                Paranoid50 17 July 2016 00: 46
                +3
                Quote: SergeBS
                And a year and a half at the servicemen where? Really canceled?

                Yes, it seems, no, they did not cancel. Although, we should go to the draft board (it’s good across the road) and take an interest, otherwise almost twenty years have passed ... request
        8. domokl
          domokl 15 July 2016 10: 49
          +10
          Quote: captain
          I did not know that service beyond the Urals was a punishment.

          laughing Let me remind you of our Soviet saying. Military service is KVN! All funny people serve beyond the Urals and in Asia. And the resourceful in the center and western groups of troops ...
          So do not pretend that you do not know this. Since tsarist times, service people who did not fit into the general scheme were sent to Siberia and the Caucasus ...
          1. ProkletyiPirat
            ProkletyiPirat 15 July 2016 11: 11
            +4
            not everyone understands the phrase "for the Urals" or "to Siberia", all the same, the Urals and Siberia are far from being the same as those under the king of peas.
          2. SergeBS
            SergeBS 17 July 2016 01: 53
            0
            Quote: domokl
            Let me remind you of our Soviet saying. Military service is KVN! All funny people serve beyond the Urals and in Asia. And the resourceful in the center and western groups of troops ...

            And I remember another saying, also a Soviet one: "They won't send Kushki further, they won't give less platoon."
            Well, about the tsarist times, there’s also a saying:
            "The dandy is in the cavalry,
            Clever - in artillery,
            Loafer - in the fleet,
            - in the infantry. "
            And SHO?
            For a "seed": where is the Northern Fleet in this "universal scheme"? For instance? Or Pacific?
            Well, or the same Eburg or Novosib, which are "much worse" than the service in a district city with a population of 50, of which 30. - warriors. "But in Europe", "in the center". And there are also ALL "happy places" where to a large city (St. Petersburg, for example) - 100 km, and around - continuous swamps and mosquitoes. But "Europe", "center". And SHO?
            Mother Russia is great. Therefore, even "in the center" - to find a "hole" with the only entertainment center - the Officers' Club (or the Club of the Officers of the Navy) - is not a problem.
            1. SergeBS
              SergeBS 17 July 2016 02: 10
              +1
              Quote: SergeBS
              - in the infantry. "

              This line should be:
              D.u.r.a.k - in the infantry "
            2. python2a
              python2a 17 July 2016 14: 30
              0
              A strange idea about the service!
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        10. potroshenko
          potroshenko 15 July 2016 11: 58
          +7
          Quote: captain
          I did not know that service beyond the Urals was a punishment. What is interesting for the FSB’s homeland?

          Indeed, it turns out that those who are currently serving there are already punished by default? Are people already divided by hundred by place of residence?
        11. Homo
          Homo 15 July 2016 15: 20
          +7
          Quote: captain
          I did not know that service beyond the Urals was a punishment.

          For Academy graduates - yes! The FSB has more than one educational institution. And for the service "on the periphery" there are universities of lower rank. And the Academy trains top-level specialists. Therefore, getting to Ust-Perdyaysk after the Academy is a great punishment.
      2. Jack-b
        Jack-b 15 July 2016 10: 00
        +14
        Quote: DMB_95
        Such young FSB cadres are potential traitors. They are for the sake of dough and a cool car, their mother will sell, under / onki.

        Well, now there is a record in the personal file. This is even worse than the "Trans-Urals". Each time they will be viewed as potential traitors. We immediately cut off the top bar for ourselves.
        1. 97110
          97110 15 July 2016 10: 28
          +1
          Quote: Jack-B
          Each time they will be looked at as potential traitors. Immediately cut the upper bar to yourself.

          Or "look at your own people. They immediately removed the upper bar for ourselves." There is no other reasonable explanation for what is happening. Especially in the light
          "Graduates who refuse to continue their service" beyond the Urals "will be offered to resign."
          1. Manul
            Manul 15 July 2016 11: 18
            +6
            Quote: 97110
            Or "look at your own people. They immediately removed the upper bar for ourselves." There is no other reasonable explanation for what is happening. Especially in the light

            Yes, they probably exiled the most normal ones. And the organizers of the ugliness, the general's sons, covered stopudovo.
            1. Homo
              Homo 16 July 2016 02: 08
              +1
              Quote: Manul
              .A the organizers of the disgrace, the sons of general, stopudovo covered.

              You think badly about the children of the generals. sad
              1. Paranoid50
                Paranoid50 17 July 2016 01: 05
                +2
                Quote: Homo
                You think badly about the children of the generals.

                Of course, all sorts of things come across ... But I didn't feel any dividends, except for pride and the desire to be like him, from my father's admiralty, and, to be honest, I didn't strive. True, he received his "furry" star shortly before retirement, and a "trailer" - stomach cancer. I was brought up on the principle of "help yourself". Since then, the best help for me is when they just don't interfere. So here everything is purely individual. hi
          2. asiat_61
            asiat_61 15 July 2016 12: 50
            +10
            graduates who refuse to continue their service "beyond the Urals" will be offered to resign ".... But first, calculate the tuition fees, accommodation, meals and so on. With a lifetime ban on traveling abroad. So that the service does not seem like honey.
        2. nicolay338
          nicolay338 15 July 2016 10: 29
          +6
          Quote: Jack-B
          ... immediately cut the upper bar to yourself

          Are you sure they needed her? IMHO, they need loot, judging by the trick, and the bar ... and roll with it)))
        3. sso-xnumx
          sso-xnumx 15 July 2016 10: 41
          +6
          Quote: Jack-B
          Each time they will be looked at as potential traitors.

          Are you sure about that??? What for me, so surely these kids of any bosses or rich dad. And they will be provided with a warm place !!! Oh, how many of these were ....
          1. Yuri from Volgograd
            Yuri from Volgograd 15 July 2016 11: 06
            +8
            Quote: sso-250659
            Quote: Jack-B
            Each time they will be looked at as potential traitors.

            Are you sure about that??? What for me, so surely these kids of any bosses or rich dad. And they will be provided with a warm place !!! Oh, how many of these were ....

            Both are right.
            For real officers, they will be like potential traitors, but for "we do not abandon our own" they will be their own, a growing shift on geliks.
        4. user1212
          user1212 15 July 2016 11: 03
          +1
          Quote: Jack-B
          Well, now there is a record in the personal file. This is even worse than the "Trans-Urals". Each time they will be viewed as potential traitors. We immediately cut off the top bar for ourselves.

          Watching what they came for. They really are unlikely to be generals. Will be repelled for 7 years and in the Security Council of some sort of bank. The work is not dusty, they pay well.
          1. Saratoga833
            Saratoga833 15 July 2016 20: 10
            +5
            Quote: user1212
            Will be repelled for 7 years and in the Security Council of some sort of bank. The work is not dusty, they pay well.

            Yes, and with God! I am convinced that such work is not needed for work in the FSB (really work)!
            1. Andrey Zh
              Andrey Zh 16 July 2016 22: 32
              +1
              They are no longer needed, because on the same day their happy faces, which they showed, I think, to the CIA, MI6, the Mossad, and other colleagues in the shop, entered into their computers and databases ...
      3. domokl
        domokl 15 July 2016 10: 45
        -6
        Quote: DMB_95
        these are potential traitors. They are for the sake of dough and a cool car, they will sell their mother, under / onki.

        When did you graduate from college (if you studied of course) immediately ran to defend your homeland? Or were they buzzing in the tavern? If you are so categorical, then I ask you to answer only one question - What did these graduates violate? What orders, what laws, what instructions ... Only without emotions and show-offs like what you wrote .. Traitors ... We are far from the FSB, moreover, it’s not very good for this service. But you need to be objective. Violated, get it, but ashamed to go about idiots ...
        1. sibiryk
          sibiryk 15 July 2016 12: 54
          +4
          They violated the SDA ... SDA
        2. alicante11
          alicante11 15 July 2016 13: 24
          +12
          Violated, get it, but ashamed to go about idiots ...


          They violated the most important thing - they are our defenders and defenders of the law. And at the same time, the law itself violated the rules. Yes, and in a pointed manner, showing (merging the Old and No) that we (the people) would simply be for them. Do you like it when you are treated like that? I don’t, therefore, I will be among those, you say, morons, on the subject of whom the FSB leadership has come.
          1. Starina_hank
            Starina_hank 17 July 2016 18: 25
            0
            It is enough to carefully read the name of the office: FSB-Federal Security Service. This office has no sexual relation to the protection of the people, by definition. And what is the attitude of the state with its people, the same attitude of the defenders of this state.
          2. Starina_hank
            Starina_hank 17 July 2016 18: 25
            0
            It is enough to carefully read the name of the office: FSB-Federal Security Service. This office has no sexual relation to the protection of the people, by definition. And what is the attitude of the state with its people, the same attitude of the defenders of this state.
        3. your1970
          your1970 15 July 2016 15: 53
          +4
          objectively they violated point-any shepherd in the steppe / mountains / tundra / taiga / Moscow grazing sheep can say when he meets "I know them - they are FSB officers "...
          ALL!!!...

          Would they be military / tax officials / customs officers / cops / mailers / doctors and so on, yes, show off, drink, have a snack, but this does not affect professional affiliation and further work, sober up and go ahead - work ..
          and here it’s all ...
        4. Saratoga833
          Saratoga833 15 July 2016 20: 22
          +3
          Quote: domokl
          What did these same graduates violate?

          They violated the most important principle of the creator and organizer of the Cheka F.E. Dzerzhinsky: "The Chekist must have a cold mind, warm heart and clean hands!"
        5. voffchik7691
          voffchik7691 15 July 2016 22: 23
          +2
          "What have these graduates violated? What orders, what laws, what instructions ..."

          The FSB is not a show business, not a theater school! Their faces lit up on the Internet, and how will they serve now? All the special services of our "friends" can hang their faces on every corner - every dog ​​will know them! And it’s dangerous to send them to the border: they’re strained with brains, they can dementia and profuse the border!
        6. Mother CheeseEarth
          Mother CheeseEarth 16 July 2016 18: 39
          +1
          Quote: domokl
          -What have these graduates violated? What orders, what laws, what instructions

          Internal Plus the laws of Ethics. Therefore, responsibility is not criminal (God forbid), but disciplinary.
        7. SergeBS
          SergeBS 17 July 2016 00: 21
          +5
          Quote: domokl
          What did these same graduates violate? What orders, what laws, what instructions ...

          They violated "nondisclosure" instructions, "nondisclosure" orders and a bunch of other things. Moreover, most of these instructions and "familiarization with the order under PERSONAL responsibility" they signed when they entered the academy.
          For a CLEAR example: when I visited OPEN exhibitions in Sokolniki (well, I asked different questions :)), then I was OBLIGED to answer the question - "where are you from, so inquisitive", cheerfully answer - with MELZ, specifically - "Chromatron". And I could even name the number of the shop, the head of the shop and 3-4 foremen. Although I have never been to MELZ. smile
    3. cniza
      cniza 15 July 2016 09: 39
      +31
      Quote: RUSOIVAN
      yes: after all, not all FSB agents are equally useful!


      Lost all reality, whom did you prepare? again the majors of the golden youth, disperse all ...
      1. Starover_Z
        Starover_Z 15 July 2016 10: 02
        +14
        Quote: cniza
        Lost all reality, whom did you prepare? again the majors of the golden youth, disperse all ...

        "No need to rush, yes!" While studying, these, someone's offspring, received information that does not "walk" in public circles and is secret. And resources and time were spent on training!
        So let them work for several years in far corners of Russia! It is possible in the Arctic!
        1. igorka357
          igorka357 15 July 2016 10: 20
          +3
          While studying, they do not receive information that "does not go", but on the border to distant outposts, to serve the Motherland, it would be necessary to have them for five years!
        2. 97110
          97110 15 July 2016 10: 31
          0
          Quote: Starover_Z
          So let them work for several years in far corners of Russia! It is possible in the Arctic!

          And with that as
          "Graduates who refuse to continue their service" beyond the Urals "will be offered to resign."
          ?
          1. armata37
            armata37 15 July 2016 10: 53
            +2
            And with this, as "graduates who refused to continue their service" beyond the Urals "will be offered to resign"?


            I do not think that there will be a lot of those who refuse and whether they will be at all.
            If there are, then these "spies" will be taken on a pencil. We will not judge only by these major players. There are enough loyal and devoted employees in the department, who can and have geliks, but without show-off.
          2. SergeBS
            SergeBS 17 July 2016 00: 44
            +1
            Quote: 97110
            And with that as
            "Graduates who refuse to continue their service" beyond the Urals "will be offered to resign."

            And they will make them "restricted to travel abroad" for 10 years. With personal account at the place of residence. And "additional buns", like no serious bank will take them to itself - they will not pass the check from the "neighbors" of these banks, etc. In reality, having lost the opportunity to get even a Form 3 admission, a LOT of possible duty stations are cut off. Only PSCs remain. And not all of them.
        3. Air defense SSH
          Air defense SSH 15 July 2016 10: 36
          +7
          28 by 4 is a whole company ... So no one will touch their sons, they will report on the punishment and the workers and peasants will go to the Urals, as was planned in principle ...
      2. ostrom
        ostrom 15 July 2016 10: 27
        +12
        And the second BIG question, where does Geliki come from? 28 cars, this one is not 2-3. It means the garage is involved. Those. collectively, the cars also lit up. And if these are your own cars, then you need to drive 100% of "graduates", tk. they would not be able to buy such a car with their salary.
        1. dengy12
          dengy12 15 July 2016 10: 41
          +8
          Quote: ostrom
          The second BIG question is, where does Geliki come from? 28 cars, this one is not 2-3. It means the garage is involved. Those. collectively, the cars also lit up. And if these are your own cars, then you need to drive 100% of "graduates", tk. on their salary they would not be able to buy such a car.

          and the cars were rented for 3 hours, an hour 2000r
        2. Djozz
          Djozz 15 July 2016 10: 45
          +2
          The press wrote that the heliks had rented, at least part.
      3. 97110
        97110 15 July 2016 10: 29
        +3
        Quote: cniza
        whom did they cook?

        Who prepared what? Grant through Nuland received?
    4. Cheshire
      Cheshire 15 July 2016 09: 43
      +9
      yes: after all, not all FSB agents are equally useful!

      Familiar FSBs are useful. laughing
      1. Vita vko
        Vita vko 15 July 2016 09: 51
        +35
        First of all, we need to clean the FSB’s own security, which allowed the moral corruption of young employees and discrediting the entire country's security system.
        1. armata37
          armata37 15 July 2016 10: 54
          +2
          but such people just go on dismissal in connection with what happened
    5. VasiliyKhilkov
      VasiliyKhilkov 15 July 2016 10: 07
      +12
      Most likely this is just stupidity associated with youthful self-affirmation. Perhaps, having received a spanking and having worked with sweat and "blood" in non-prestigious and irresponsible posts, most of them will quickly grow up and still benefit people)
      But the teachers who defamed indecency are not sorry: they are adults and should have understood all the unacceptability of the idea.
      1. igorka357
        igorka357 15 July 2016 10: 22
        +10
        A person must go to the FSB at the call of his heart, and from the very beginning .. and if for them a parade on heliks is cool, then having matured, for them it will be cool ten lyamy greens to receive for the secrets of the motherland!
      2. Kozliu
        Kozliu 15 July 2016 10: 26
        +13
        This is not an "institution of noble maidens"
        There should be no second chance in the FSB - this is the country's security.
        The punishment is too soft.
        Cancel diplomas and send military service to serve.
      3. Svoy_tovarish
        Svoy_tovarish 15 July 2016 10: 35
        +21
        Stupidity associated with youthful self-assertion of graduates of the FSB Academy? Don't you think this sounds absurd? Even a police officer must comply with certain rules of conspiracy, do not show a certificate on every corner, do not spill official information. And here is the elite of special services, state security officers and you are talking about youth.
      4. asiat_61
        asiat_61 15 July 2016 13: 00
        +3
        This is not stupidity, this is stupidity. They are still not 18 years old? Who has read "The Honor" by VS Pikul, the plot is traced. A pre-programmed figure, or several, is taken out of the game.
    6. Kozliu
      Kozliu 15 July 2016 10: 20
      +5
      Do you want to be a policeman or do you want to play the role of a policeman? (C) The Departed 2006
    7. Juborg
      Juborg 15 July 2016 11: 27
      +12
      They should be planted and not transferred to the "Trans-Urals". It turns out that the people living there, to put it mildly, are second-class and there are people like these working, so what ??? I think this statement is incorrect. The problem of swagger and careerism and protectionism devoured the FSB from the inside. There are practically no professionals left, judging by the fact that (!) Is produced (to call "who!", The language does not turn). The selection level for applicants is extremely low and not professional, "used to get the one who needs, and today the one who wants"(words of FSB general in reserve Alexander Mikhailov). Apparently the FSB academy has a systemic crisis and the punishment of this contingent cannot correct the situation. It is necessary to change the approach not only to education at this university, but also throughout Russia.
    8. g1v2
      g1v2 15 July 2016 11: 28
      .
      What other FSB officers are they - just stupid children. And of them, just like from football, the villains were blinded.
      1. B.T.V.
        B.T.V. 15 July 2016 12: 33
        +12
        Quote: g1v2
        What other FSB officers are they - just stupid children.


        There were "onizhedeti" on the Maidan, how did it end ?!
      2. asiat_61
        asiat_61 15 July 2016 13: 05
        +11
        They took the oath, they are no longer children.
        1. g1v2
          g1v2 15 July 2016 13: 23
          -8
          From the fact that the guy dressed and took the oath, he does not become an adult. These are the same teenagers as conscripts in the army. What we just didn’t do by urgency and the adult can’t understand anymore. Hormones and vypendrezh in a teenager disappear with age, and not with getting shoulder straps. And what do cadets do? Surely they themselves didn’t climb into the same female dormitory or didn’t do any dope when they were young? Well then, I'm sorry. So the children decided to show off - drive like a steep one, like in a series crew. And why shoot them now for a show off at the wall? Now a lot of serious uncles are jerking off and the kids and so few will not seem.
          1. voffchik7691
            voffchik7691 15 July 2016 22: 35
            +3
            "So the children decided to show off - to drive like a steep, like a brigade in the series."
            But the question is: the TV series "Brigade" is about whom? If this is a role model, then I can imagine how and what they will serve!
          2. SergeBS
            SergeBS 17 July 2016 01: 04
            0
            Quote: g1v2
            From the fact that the guy dressed and took the oath, he does not become an adult. These are the same teenagers as conscripts in the army.

            Uh-huh. Only a conscript is going to rattle off 2 years (now 1 year) and get "buns" for this "in civilian life". And these stunners - OVER 20 years old, did not go for "buns in civilian life", such as in the Ministry of Internal Affairs and then linemen, but in SERIOUS work to harness. Pull the strap with a quarter. And since they did not understand where they went - TO DRIVE NAFIG. Such "children" have their own children. Let your children be hammered in: "took up the tug - don't say you're not hefty."
      3. alicante11
        alicante11 15 July 2016 13: 30
        +10
        What other FSB officers are they - just stupid children. And of them, just like from football, the villains were blinded.


        ONE-CHILD - Doesn't it remind you of anything? If he graduated from the FSB, then ALREADY not a child.
      4. twviewer
        twviewer 15 July 2016 14: 21
        +5
        Quote: g1v2
        What other FSB officers are they - just stupid children. And of them, just like from football, the villains were blinded.

        what children? these are already colleagues, besides officers and as hedonists turned out, that’s why we need to ask who and why they took them to the academy and what they taught, and the worthy does not disappear beyond the Urals, will serve the homeland, the unworthy is not needed at all.
      5. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 17 July 2016 01: 11
        +5
        Quote: g1v2
        just stupid kids

        "Stupid children" go to correctional schools, not the FSB academy.
        1. Simpsonian
          Simpsonian 17 July 2016 02: 07
          0
          if they or their parents don’t have much money
        2. Simpsonian
          Simpsonian 17 July 2016 02: 07
          0
          if they or their parents don’t have much money
    9. Svyatoslavich
      Svyatoslavich 15 July 2016 11: 36
      +7
      Govnyuki ...
      but in general it turned out not bad - the eyes of those who still dreamed opened.
      The fish rots from the head.
    10. Altona
      Altona 15 July 2016 11: 58
      +1
      Quote: RUSOIVAN
      yes: after all, not all FSB agents are equally useful!

      --------------------
      Even KGB officers were not equally useful, some of them participated in the dismantling of the USSR.
    11. Genals
      Genals 15 July 2016 15: 25
      +1
      In us, we are such beyond the Urals ...
    12. Trotil42
      Trotil42 18 July 2016 15: 00
      +2
      But it’s not enough to raise money for a graduation and transfer it to a veteran charity fund .. this is why you need to start serving your country .. and so wretched thoughts .. paucity of mind ... lack of morality and ethics ... than it reminds a football team ..
  2. Cheshire
    Cheshire 15 July 2016 09: 30
    +12
    "Many of those responsible will be removed from operational work and sent to serve in distant garrisons."

    Will agree. Then they will transfer - the scheme is simple.
  3. Suharik.inline
    Suharik.inline 15 July 2016 09: 30
    +4
    Do you like to ride, love and carry a sleigh.
    1. RussianRoulette
      RussianRoulette 15 July 2016 10: 06
      +5
      ... and to clear the forest, and to clean the stables ... it would be fairer.
  4. Abbra
    Abbra 15 July 2016 09: 31
    +10
    If only the children of high-ranking people were then quietly returned to warm places. I would also demote all the graduates participating in the rank to lieutenant. I would like to imagine something like this when graduating, say, the KGB school ... Not to mention the NKVD.
    1. captain
      captain 15 July 2016 09: 38
      +29
      They will return, you have no doubt. It was necessary to drive from the FSB, with the calculation of money for training.
    2. creak
      creak 15 July 2016 10: 04
      +8
      Quote: Abbra
      I would also demote all the graduates participating in the rank to lieutenant.


      The punishment, of course, is serious, especially when you consider that they are already issued by lieutenants ... hi
      Apparently, they have not yet grown to this rank - for such reasons in the old days they said: "It has risen under the nose, but it has not yet been sown in the head." ... fool
    3. Captain45
      Captain45 15 July 2016 12: 32
      0
      Quote: Abbra
      I would also demote all the graduates participating in the rank to lieutenant.

      So all the graduates of the military, even the militia, the FSB, have their first rank in graduation - lieutenant. "Lieutenant sounds like pour us a drink" (c) B. Slutsky seems.
      1. SergeBS
        SergeBS 17 July 2016 02: 06
        0
        Quote: Captain45
        So all graduates of the towers are at least army, at least militia. At least the FSB have the first rank of lieutenant.

        At excellent students - starley. And the right to choose a place of service (from possible ess-no). At least in the Navy - like that.
    4. sibiryk
      sibiryk 15 July 2016 12: 58
      0
      Quote: Abbra
      I would also demote all the graduates participating in the rank to lieutenant.

      And what are they immediately issued by generals?
    5. Nikolay82
      Nikolay82 15 July 2016 18: 47
      +6
      in our division (OMSDON named after F.E. Dzerzhinsky), soldiers were sent "to serve with polar bears", for extra words in a letter about the service. A friend was removed from the front box, and transferred to the Urals to guard the military plant. The reason, my sister wrote in a letter that his friend went to prison.
      There are people here who do not understand that a glamorous manager is normal, and a glamorous FSB officer is nonsense.
  5. guzik007
    guzik007 15 July 2016 09: 32
    +59
    First of all, the leadership of the academy should be punished. For five years, they grew up unknowingly. The profession itself implies a powerful analytical unit on the shoulders, and here there is a handful of jerks who are unable to even calculate the consequences of their behavior in the simplest way.
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 15 July 2016 10: 01
      +10
      And the better the staff of MGIMO and the Higher School of Economics?
      I look at this talk show talk and I can’t understand, they don’t imagine what is happening around Russia, what is the FSA policy aimed at? They do not resent spitting spits in Russia? All sorts of tricks are poisoned by Russia in small and large, trying to isolate, and these Moscow hamsters tryndyat that Russia is to blame for everything.
      Or maybe Russia is "work" for them, but they hope to live beyond the river, where everything has already been prepared?
      If the Fashington macaques manage to start a war, Moscow hamsters like B. Nadezhdin will not have to work and live anywhere ever again.
      1. Jack-b
        Jack-b 15 July 2016 10: 03
        +2
        Quote: Balu
        And the better the staff of MGIMO and the Higher School of Economics?

        Not better, but the degree of responsibility is different and the consequences.
      2. guzik007
        guzik007 15 July 2016 12: 46
        +4
        And the better the staff of MGIMO and the Higher School of Economics?
        -----------------------------------------
        Well, Balu, it’s embarrassing to compare and not to know that these are certainly the ranks of the liberals, they are supposed to grow mold in test tubes by rank: =)
      3. voffchik7691
        voffchik7691 15 July 2016 23: 21
        +5
        "What is the better staff of MGIMO and HSE?"

        Topornin N.B. - Associate Professor of the Department of European Law, MGIMO. He is famous for the fact that on the program V. Solovyov "Duel", he said that NATO (founded on April 4, 1949) was created in response to the creation of the Warsaw Pact Organization (founded on May 14, 1955)! What can this assistant professor teach? Zhirik then said: "Today is your last day at MGIMO!" Alas, Zhirik, as always, is not responsible for his words - this associate professor still works at MGIMO!
        1. python2a
          python2a 17 July 2016 14: 51
          -1
          Zhirik - the Kremlin cockerel crowed, and there the sun get up, do not get up: it's not his business.
    2. Jack-b
      Jack-b 15 July 2016 10: 02
      0
      So they wrote that they would punish.
    3. igorka357
      igorka357 15 July 2016 10: 24
      +2
      Draw an analogy with Russian football and everything will fall into place, there are also sons of governors, mayors and deputies!
  6. 33 Watcher
    33 Watcher 15 July 2016 09: 32
    +55
    Why are they all being sent to us in Siberia? It’s as if we don’t have enough of our own greyhounds on heliks. am We don’t need them! Just resign.
    1. Andrey NM
      Andrey NM 15 July 2016 09: 52
      +17
      Indeed, they are not needed in Siberia. If they get here, they will behave even worse here, like "Muscovites" and we will visit you for a little while ... You can't remake them, just drive them.
      1. Baloo
        Baloo 15 July 2016 10: 14
        +13
        From Tatarstan there was a landing of "managers" to the Far East.
        Ochchchchen quickly revealed their essence, how did it end? Some of them cost freedom.
        For me, a civilian officer is not an officer unless he has a modest soldier's medal. It used to be For Courage. Now, if I am not mistaken, for military services. So it was necessary to send where it is hotter. An extreme situation will reveal the essence of everyone who should be an officer and who should go to the security service to serve the oligarchs. The excuse is that the older comrades organized Gelenvagens ... already speaks of immaturity. They would be mature men, they would take all the blame on themselves, but they would try to divert the arrow. As a taxpayer, I am disappointed. To the "senior comrades" who organized the gelnvagen show and lit up the youth, pay what they deserve.
        My recipe is to send away where it is dangerous, and there they will manifest themselves. hi
        1. igopot
          igopot 15 July 2016 10: 55
          +2
          Hotter - Dagestan. Cooler - Murmansk region.
          1. Andrey Zh
            Andrey Zh 16 July 2016 22: 43
            +2
            It is possible to us - in Donbass !!!
        2. guzik007
          guzik007 15 July 2016 13: 03
          +6
          From Tatarstan there was a landing of "managers" to the Far East.
          -------------------------------------------------- ------
          Yes, "fellow countrywomen", yopta, are accustomed to steal with impunity in Kazan, to fool around with millions. They are from us as a result of the undercover struggle of the shuranuli - so they got shit elsewhere.
          By the way, Camil Iskhakov must not be denied cunning. Anyone interested in telling a story about him. About how Iskhakov immortalized himself. We decided to put up a monument to prof. Fuchsu in the city. The mayor (Iskhakov) agreed with one condition - to depict his face in the monument. There is nothing to do - the author agreed. And he depicted ... Our professor is standing, leaning on a cane, and the knob ... in the form of Iskhakov’s head. And so, the bastard, depicted, with such a smile, they say: haha, all of us ... l, during his lifetime, a monument to himself, etc., that fit to laugh. After all, in parallel, each contribution to the history of the city is also visible in size.
        3. python2a
          python2a 17 July 2016 14: 54
          0
          In the penal battalion - atone with blood!
    2. igorka357
      igorka357 15 July 2016 10: 26
      +1
      Yes, no, let them send, we have here "Bratchane" will crush them at a stroke, here they do not like the "Moscow Major" ..))!
    3. 97110
      97110 15 July 2016 10: 40
      +5
      Quote: Observer 33
      Just resign.

      But can he organize an elite outpost closer to the north pole, where officers, due to the importance of the task, will also be in the ranks of ordinary and sergeant personnel? Where will those who refuse to serve beyond the Urals serve? Until the resignation.
  7. xant
    xant 15 July 2016 09: 32
    0
    this whole story looks from the very beginning as a "farce." Maybe all this happened just for this: "Strict disciplinary measures have been applied to the leadership of the Academy, including a number of managers who have been demoted, some will be presented for dismissal," department.
    1. Ze Kot
      Ze Kot 15 July 2016 09: 35
      +28
      Quote: xant
      Maybe all this happened just for the sake of this:



      So they said, "increased public attention." If the people did not begin to comment so actively, then there would be no consequences.

      And graduates are generally scumbags. Their profession requires silence and incognito. And they show off how cool they are. It’s immediately clear that people don’t go to defend their homeland, but earn money with a crust ... Yes ... Today the people have been shredding ...
  8. Erg
    Erg 15 July 2016 09: 32
    +8
    I, now, think - And what would Comrade Stalin say to this ... It is unlikely that he would mention the Urals.
  9. K-50
    K-50 15 July 2016 09: 32
    +26
    graduates who refuse to continue their service "beyond the Urals" will be offered to resign

    And what kind of a link is Ural Ugly? Tens of millions of Russians live outside the Urals and do not know about it. request belay
    Such "majors in uniform" should be dismissed from the service of the state. Well, or let them go to the army for a contract, so that the money spent on their training is not in vain. request
    1. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 15 July 2016 09: 38
      +13
      Quote: K-50
      And what kind of a link is Ural Ugly? Tens of millions of Russians live outside the Urals and do not know about it.


      Yes, I was born already in exile laughing And I’ll say more, we’re juggling me in St. Petersburg and Moscow, you won’t even lure me from business trips laughing It is noisy, there are a lot of people, everyone is frantic of some kind (no offense to the inhabitants of these cities), everything is too big, there are a lot, everything is oversaturated by everyone, not mine, in general. yes
      1. vadimtt
        vadimtt 15 July 2016 10: 07
        +2
        No offense, we are frantic for the very tomatoes. You can’t get so bored with people. He himself thought about retiring somewhere far away from Moscow to go, but now he would have lived out with the new laws. While the cottage at least somehow saves.
  10. tommy717
    tommy717 15 July 2016 09: 32
    +8
    And here we live and served beyond the Urals and nothing, we feel normal. Or for these graduates, everything beyond the Garden Ring is Siberia. Then for them it is the collapse of a career.
  11. MP
    MP 15 July 2016 09: 33
    +2
    The Urals - is it so far? :) In the Arctic!
    1. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 15 July 2016 09: 59
      +5
      Quote: Mpx
      The Urals - is it so far? :) In the Arctic!

      To the Border Troops ... repeat White bears to them, instead of black jeeps. laughing
  12. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 15 July 2016 09: 33
    +9
    They survived .. Now they are punishing the Trans-Urals .. And they should go crazy with happiness that they were allowed to defend the security of the Homeland in the Trans-Urals ..
  13. kotvov
    kotvov 15 July 2016 09: 34
    +9
    it’s garbage, not punishment. After a year they’ll transfer to the central districts. It was necessary to offer to serve three years in the special forces. Refused, resignation (with reimbursement of tuition fees) of those serving, to see how he showed himself.
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  15. niksan2002
    niksan2002 15 July 2016 09: 35
    +7
    A little! I would write off everyone in a clean one. Divorced the "golden youth", how much wasted.
  16. dauria
    dauria 15 July 2016 09: 36
    +8
    "Graduates who refuse to continue their service" beyond the Urals "will be offered to resign"


    Hmm, now you can simply refuse to obey the order like this? Such things used to be called desertion. Go, then quit as you can, if you don't like it. Or is it schoolgirls who did not take the oath?
  17. GUKTU
    GUKTU 15 July 2016 09: 36
    +10
    These are the values ​​instilled in them during their studies at the academy. I doubt that these graduates love their people and country. Rather, there is a craving for a beautiful life and dolars
  18. teascher
    teascher 15 July 2016 09: 37
    +19
    will be punished by the Trans-Urals


    Wow punishment, I have lived my whole life, and many others, beyond the Urals, we all, it turns out, were punished, although the parades did not suit. Dear government, you simply must give all residents of the Trans-Urals Gelendvagena
  19. Seraphimamur
    Seraphimamur 15 July 2016 09: 38
    +10
    And what will these cadres gain in Siberia and the Far East? It is probably more correct to raise the question of professional suitability for moral and ethical reasons.
  20. 19max70
    19max70 15 July 2016 09: 38
    +2
    "According to Forbes sources," graduates who have refused to continue serving 'beyond the Urals' will be offered to resign. " Collect all the money spent by the state on preparation !!!
  21. Robin32
    Robin32 15 July 2016 09: 40
    +10
    It is scary to even imagine what kind of "BENEFIT" our country can bring such pets of the FSB academy. And from here the question is, how do such citizens get to these educational institutions?
    1. Leto
      Leto 15 July 2016 10: 04
      +3
      Quote: Robin32
      And from here the question is, how do such citizens get into these educational institutions?

      Oh my God ... about pestles and stamens, do you also need to explain?
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  22. isker
    isker 15 July 2016 09: 42
    +8
    "..but preferably in July
    and preferably in the Crimea! "(c)

    Something rotted at the FSB Academy
    1. Kubyanka
      Kubyanka 15 July 2016 10: 15
      +2
      Not only at the academy ...
  23. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 15 July 2016 09: 44
    +3
    Well, now they will arrange races there too fool and if they are simply kicked out of the FSB, why are they needed? or, now, in the spirit of the trend of the times, are these needed ??? am
  24. Bramb
    Bramb 15 July 2016 09: 46
    +12
    And what, for the disclosure of the entire issue they will not even be fired? !!
    And this collection of inferior subjects will continue to grow in the bowels of the FSB instead of cleaning our streets ?!
    And what is this punishment: sent for the Urals? Do we have half the country punished by birth? What nonsense? !!!

    -All! Lost the house! (Prof. Preobrazhensky)
  25. VOEVODA
    VOEVODA 15 July 2016 09: 47
    .
    Well guys laughed, it's okay, remember yourself as lieutenants (who was), just now the guys have different opportunities at a different time.
    1. RussianRoulette
      RussianRoulette 15 July 2016 10: 01
      +6
      Just because of the straw in their heads, the "office" should not turn into a complete r ... oh! You have to be more modest in spite of the possibilities.
    2. Nirag013
      Nirag013 16 July 2016 23: 11
      +1
      It is clear to you (and more than once!) It was pointed out above that these lieutenants didn’t just make a mess, they broke away. They have posted their "faces" on the Internet, for all to see. If they were combined-arms tankmen-pilots - oh well, they broke away. And their service does not tolerate publicity, and who knows how they (and the worst thing is that not only them!) Will come back to haunt in the future. Again, in the comments above, someone very correctly noted that after graduating from the Academy (!) Of the FSB, they should have a powerful analytical apparatus on their shoulders, and they are not able to calculate one or two steps ahead of the consequences of their action ... Oh, something rotten in the Danish kingdom!
    3. Sasha_Sar
      Sasha_Sar 18 July 2016 10: 33
      +1
      Yes, all on the releases "played tricks". In our "system" the tradition was to anchor in the "Goluboy" stream, which flowed through the entire school. Then he was raised by the "Belarusian". On "Easter" I paint the bulls, which stand near the headquarters of the Baltic Fleet. Sew a striped vest and put it on "Neptune". Only these pranks apart from a joke - they did not carry anything humor and did not humiliate anyone, and they did not stick out us "boobies".
  26. svp67
    svp67 15 July 2016 09: 47
    +5
    The participants of the "parade" will be offered service in regions remote from the capital,
    Well, what kind of "idiocy" is it to scare people with the vastness of the Motherland. Well, they will be sent to regions remote from the capital, so I wonder who gets what. Apparently the “most guilty” is “American”, the “least guilty” is “European”, but the “most not guilty” is “Siberian”. You can also take a reprimand from the Supreme and until it is removed, and such Events can be counted on the fingers, not appointed to higher positions, not made any reward, including material, that is, not give bonuses. Let's see how real "Chekists" they are.
  27. Million
    Million 15 July 2016 09: 47
    +13
    These boys are initially unsuitable.
  28. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 15 July 2016 09: 48
    0
    If everything will be as it is written in the note - not bad already.
  29. xant
    xant 15 July 2016 09: 52
    +6
    those who came to earn "loot" all that is longer than the Garden Ring is a link
  30. Erg
    Erg 15 July 2016 09: 54
    +8
    So what are they - these graduates of the FSB Academy ... It is immediately obvious that the security of the Fatherland is in good hands.
  31. excomandante
    excomandante 15 July 2016 09: 57
    +5
    Interesting logic! So, for service in the FSB in the Trans-Urals and in Siberia, they will leave ?! And for smart people - strictly Arbat military district? Oh well.
  32. Human Factor
    Human Factor 15 July 2016 09: 57
    +8
    LEARNING PUNISHMENT.

    Why is the Urals asked to punish these graduates?
  33. Atlant-1164
    Atlant-1164 15 July 2016 09: 58
    +8
    why the Trans-Urals ... what did the inhabitants of this region do? send them to Syria. to the Ishilovites. get intelligence.
    1. Backfire
      Backfire 16 July 2016 18: 29
      0
      Sense from them there as from a goat of milk.
  34. Red_Hamer
    Red_Hamer 15 July 2016 09: 58
    +9
    Graduates of the FSB Academy who participated in the “Gelendvagen parade” will punish the Trans-Urals
    You might think that here far beyond the Urals, not people live. To me, too, "punished with Siberia"! You might think that we have little of our own with such show-offs. Why are they here? What a stupid habit of punishing the Motherland? Or is the Trans-Urals not Russia for their leadership? Then a question for the leadership, maybe the youth are just taking an example from their older comrades?
  35. erased
    erased 15 July 2016 10: 00
    +18
    1. Fine in the amount of payment for the entire period of study.
    2. Dismissal from the FSB and a lifelong ban on occupying any positions in the public administration system.
    This is the punishment! And the rest is stroking on the ass and a phased withdrawal from the blow of "sons", "tribes" and others. Five years beyond the Urals and back to the capital or abroad.
    Those who put themselves above people do not have the right to protect them.
    1. Ryabtsev Grigory Evgenievich
      Ryabtsev Grigory Evgenievich 16 July 2016 20: 35
      +2
      It is imperative that diplomas be annulled so that there is nothing to trump.
    2. python2a
      python2a 17 July 2016 15: 08
      0
      Hit the top ten!
  36. driver
    driver 15 July 2016 10: 00
    +14
    Drive out BODIES without the right of restoration! Demote to privates. Already in the FSB and divorced MAJOR! Shame!
    1. Nikolay82
      Nikolay82 15 July 2016 19: 13
      +3
      what can we expect from them if the deputy head of the FSB in 2011, General Ushakov, can afford an anniversary worth $ 1 million. One of his daughters graduated from this FSB academy.
  37. Prisoner
    Prisoner 15 July 2016 10: 00
    +7
    Poorly taught this once, in vain learned this two! Under the KGB, it was not even possible to think about this. There were deserters-traitors, but such pontores that would hardly play for the public. And what is the fault of the Trans-Urals that she will be "made happy" with such personnel?
  38. Thomas I do not believe40
    Thomas I do not believe40 15 July 2016 10: 01
    +6
    Commanders otd / platoons and remote outposts, to love the motherland and understand the essence of punishment.

    "Graduates who refuse to continue their service" beyond the Urals "will be offered to resign."

    And all up to a penny for studying and uniforms to return to the budget of the country, plaque fly
  39. Alexander S.
    Alexander S. 15 July 2016 10: 01
    +5
    And then these employees will begin to torture the population of their own country ... for dollars ... like the neighbors are doing now.
  40. Rado
    Rado 15 July 2016 10: 02
    +7
    Quote: DMB_95
    Quote: RUSOIVAN
    yes: after all, not all FSB agents are equally useful!

    Such young FSB cadres are potential traitors. They are for the sake of dough and a cool car, their mother will sell, under / onki.

    In no place flinched: what am I doing? Kindergarten on the lawn .. Businessmen and careerists .. Who raised?
    1. Jack-b
      Jack-b 15 July 2016 10: 03
      0
      Now flinched. And most importantly, the others startled.
  41. Mengad
    Mengad 15 July 2016 10: 07
    +6
    What is Siberia so guilty of? request
  42. Gronsky
    Gronsky 15 July 2016 10: 07
    +7
    Quote: cniza
    disperse everyone ...

    Hand on heart, this is the first thing that comes to mind. perfect is absolutely unthinkable and wild.
    In the place of the secret services of our "favorite" "partners", I would put a bold mark on each released individual. For the future, the material is ideal for work.
    However, what to do with the skills and information they have acquired in the learning process? Graduated from a non-culinary college. In general, the dilemma is "hard to bear - you can't quit." At least walled them up in the wall.
  43. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 15 July 2016 10: 08
    +7
    Quote: DMB_95
    Such young FSB cadres are potential traitors. They are for the sake of dough and a cool car, their mother will sell, under / onki.

    None of them has the right to continue serving in the FSB or other power structure, because the brain was struck by a putrefactive fungus. Otherwise it will hurt when one of them in a couple of three years (the wave of indignation raised today will disappear) will again be in the structures and commit another offense according to his rotten morality. It's disgusting all !!!
  44. Leto
    Leto 15 July 2016 10: 08
    +3
    You do not understand the principle of punishment. The Trans-Urals region is poor and, unlike the European or southern part of Russia, there is less opportunity to earn ... a new car ... What difference does it make to us where they will protect drug trafficking or flatten business?
  45. Shamsik
    Shamsik 15 July 2016 10: 08
    +20
    This picture is a joke, of course, but seriously, it’s hard to imagine that KGB graduates could afford something like that. It would never have occurred to them. And on these current imperfections (to everything else), the state spent a lot of money and 5 years of time on their studies. All down the drain !!!
  46. Ivan65
    Ivan65 15 July 2016 10: 14
    +14
    I want to say - do not worry, not one of the graduates of this academy will go far, no stunning operations like this are being developed, they cannot help Russia abroad ... but it’s disgusting at heart.
    Academy is too big a name. It leaves the working meat of the FSB heavy bureaucratic system. This is the future of the FSB bureaucracy. There are investigators in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and these will be investigators in the womb of the FSB.
    They direct them to very serious matters from specialized universities (technical, economic, legal). These talented guys (because they look at the best of the best faculties, institutes, industries) very quickly get out into the leaders and drag the burden of protecting the homeland on themselves. Unfortunately, there is a constant struggle between the graduates of the Schools (as it is more correct to call the academy) of the FSB and those recruited from other universities.

    Throw major graduates over to the Urals, ruin regions - why should I have a bunch of aplomb, ambition and heavy crusts at the ready in such important places of our Motherland?
  47. atamankko
    atamankko 15 July 2016 10: 15
    +13
    It looks like they were graduates of House-2, not the FSB Academy.
  48. Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 15 July 2016 10: 15
    +8
    It is not necessary to drive for the Urals ...! Do dishonest citizens live beyond the Urals? From such and grow "Kalugins", "Rezuns" and others!
    Only the desires of community members and threats from the leadership, not marketing ones, there is one "golden youth"
  49. Enoch
    Enoch 15 July 2016 10: 16
    +4
    Nothing changes - the system. Some will be punished, but the rest is a liberal grin.
  50. Slon_on
    Slon_on 15 July 2016 10: 23
    +14
    And what is the service in the Trans-Urals - now a punishment? But what about hundreds and thousands of other officers serving there? Punished too? For what? It was necessary to educate while studying, so that they did not exchange for cheap show-offs.
    1. Dr. Sorge
      Dr. Sorge 15 July 2016 10: 56
      +10
      After all, there are tests for aptitude, it turns out the whole course was conducted on the cookies of Gelendvagen? So fast and instant? All learning to invest and get major release? Something is wrong somewhere in the system.
      1. dima mzk
        dima mzk 18 July 2016 01: 57
        0
        There is a professional selection which is required of many exams. I understand them, once-in-a-lifetime release is their holiday, here sometimes weddings are made worse