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Expert: “The chances of a“ color revolution ”in Kazakhstan are minimal”

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Last week in Moscow, on the basis of the Russian State University for the Humanities, a meeting was held with the representative of the Association of Cross-Border Cooperation Marat Shibutov. The Kazakhstan expert acquainted the Russian colleagues with the main trends of Kazakhstan’s development on the socio-economic, domestic and foreign policy tracks, and also shared his opinion on some topical issues on the agenda with an IQ correspondent.


- Marat, in a speech to Russian colleagues as one of the defining and relevant trends in the development of Kazakhstan, you identified a reform of the public administration system, from which the “accompanying” qualitative changes in Kazakhstan’s society also follow. Let's dwell on this topic. What achievements of the republic in the state-society-citizen vector do you single out as the most important milestones of the last decade?


- In a given vector, of course, the main achievement of the last decade was a fundamental rethinking of the role of the state in general and the role of government bodies in particular. If earlier the state was traditionally viewed in two ways, as an apparatus of violence and as a “rent distributor”, then since 2007, it has become primarily a service provider.

That is, all processes in the state and in state bodies are painted as a specific service for the population or for business - the standard of each service is formulated, the algorithm for the participation of performers in it, the deadlines are set. At the same time, the execution scheme is extremely formalized and excludes unnecessary intermediary links.

In practice, the advantages of such a scheme are evident in the work of PSCs - service centers for the population, which have become a kind of “conveyors” in the design and issuance of any documents.

The activities of the PSCs are algorithmized, which, on the one hand, drastically reduces the workload of staff, on the other hand, it improves the quality of services provided to the public.

The system has been successfully operating for almost a decade, and, moreover, it is developing - at present, the Government for Citizens Corporation has been established, which practically excludes the interaction of citizens with government officials and government agencies. All requests that will be sent through this system will be executed in electronic document management mode, and the same format will be provided by the response from the authorized body.

As of now, half of the public services in Kazakhstan are automated. And this has a tremendous effect: the number of requests from individuals has decreased from 16 to two million per year. Accordingly, for legal entities - from 4,5 million to 570 thousand. There is a “withdrawal” from the public sector of a capacious segment of “grassroots corruption”.

Fully transfer the process of providing public services to electronic format will be possible after the launch of the National Geographic Information System, which will be tied to all government agencies, archives, inventories, etc.

In terms of the political process, which is not limited to elections alone, the development of the institution of mediation should be noted as a positive factor. About seven thousand cases are resolved annually by mediators in the pretrial order. The mechanism of public councils at ministries and local executive bodies, which take an obligatory part in the formulation of budgets and examination of legal acts, has also proven itself well. As a member of several such structures, I particularly welcome this direction.

The powers of local representative bodies - maslikhats - are expanding every year. Also, territorial local government councils will soon start working.

Our whole trouble is that there are not enough active and knowledgeable people who would find time to work in such structures, especially at the grassroots level.

- It is logical to assume that the above mentioned positive steps in the field of state-building also change Kazakhstan’s society, the mentality of Kazakhstan’s people, affect the development of civil society. Is it so?

- Of course, society itself is changing. But here it is necessary to highlight two multidirectional trends. On the one hand, globalization has a significant impact on the mentality of Kazakhstan’s people, people actively use its technological fruits, gaining simplified access not only to services and goods, but also to educational programs. But, on the other hand, along with civilizational advancement, there is also an increase in the archaization of society - the revival of tribal traditions, sometimes their inventing, the “Islamic renaissance” - an increase in the number of believers.

And, interestingly, practice shows: often the society artificially limits itself in using the benefits of globalization listed above, perceives the opportunities opening in connection with this, superficially and narrowly.

I will give an example. I recently conducted a class in which it turned out that only five people use e-government services in a group of 50, my age and older.

The most paradoxical and sad: young people do not know how to use the Internet to increase their own value. Yes, they continuously sit on social networks, download videos and toys, but there is no one for them outside the Internet.

This is a big problem, which, by the way, concerns both Russia and other post-Soviet states.

This, among other things, leads to the phenomenon of modernity as “virtualization of politics” - people start to hysteria about the information that they draw on Facebook or on other resources, trusting stuffing and outright fakes. They are not able to separate reality from fiction, to look critically at phenomena and processes.

By the way, this also applies to our officials, many of whom are on Facebook and clearly overestimate its capabilities and threats: “Oh, they wrote in the tape that tens of thousands of people will go to the demonstration tomorrow! What to do, what to do?

First, do not need hysteria. In the same Facebook, for example, a million 200 thousand people are registered. There are really no more than 125 thousands of writers among them, and most of them are so-called bots, advertisers, etc.

And our officials perceive their activity as a real policy, they seriously study trends and frighten themselves.

- Do you mean an epic with “land rallies”? They, as far as we know, actively unwound through social networks?

- Including. The picture emerges as follows: the mind, indignant, boiled over, people actively "weed" calls for rallies, but that was all. As a result, 21 May in the same Astana was waiting for the protesters, but mostly journalists came to Baiterek, who became “victims of the arbitrariness of the law enforcement officers”.

“This is as far as Astana is concerned, but, you see, in general, the excitement formed around the“ land issue ”, largely artificial, created serious tension in the society and became a cause for real concern of the authorities.

- Let's take a closer look at where the legs of this problem grow from: April 24 held a rather numerous rally in Atyrau and small pickets in a number of other cities. Then there was an attempt to organize mass protests in Almaty and Astana, in other cities scheduled for May 21.

The topic was really actively unwound by the organizers in social networks.

But as a result, the rally failed in Astana and other cities. And the scale of that which took place in Almaty is greatly exaggerated. I do not know where the data on the “thousands of detainees” from which the representatives of the opposition operate come from. There was no such amount in sight. We all know the Abai-Furmanov intersection in Almaty, if there were a thousand people there, people and adjacent neighborhoods would be filled with people. But this was not. I believe that the number of protesters across the country hardly exceeded 1000 people. There were more pretentious posts on Facebook.

For the Russian audience, I will explain some "nuances". I know many of the Atyrau activists who were at the forefront of the action. All of them represent the interests of certain NGOs, and not even political, but environmental ones. For a number of years, their activities were aimed at working with large foreign investor companies operating in the Atyrau hydrocarbon market, under noble slogans of environmental protection, the struggle for nature conservation, etc.

On this, people lived safely for decades, creating a viable “protest machine” in the region, which can be launched for any reason.

This year, at the elections to Maslikhats, the aforementioned activists suffered a fiasco and decided to pour out their grievances, leading the protest actions on an internal problem. And, it seems, they themselves did not expect that this wave would be picked up. This is also connected with the trend of “Chinese phobia”, which is provoked by certain political circles, including oppositionists.

Who currently represents the opposition elite in Kazakhstan? This movement "Alash Zholy" - national populists, the former "Algovtsy", plus the representatives of the NSDP in the regions. Initially, they had nothing to do with the rallies, but as the topic was actively promoted, they actively supported it and now began to collect the fruits - to promote themselves, to receive certain “political buns”.

In this process, the actions of the authorities that promptly reacted to the situation are indicative. A Commission on Land Reform was created, which included officials, farmers, and public figures, including the opposition. Public discussions of the issue took place in the regions, and a collection of opinions and suggestions from the public was organized through special call centers.

But what is curious: 79% of calls received by phones from citizens correlate with the “land issue” exclusively in terms of the problems of individual housing construction. Interest in the topic in the context of the development of the domestic agrarian sector is shown only by 4-5% of subscribers.

That is, what will happen with agriculture, with the peasants, people, as it turned out, are not interested and do not care.

An example from practice: I sit at home, work, all of a sudden a call: “Marat, people gathered at the akimat about the land, you, as a member of the public council and a member of the land commission, urgently go there, you need to reassure the people.”

We come running with our colleagues, it turns out, through the social networks they have made a newsletter that in akimats they give 10 a hundred square meters of land, and half the country has taken it! All rushed to get their ten acres. Only in Almaty about 20 thousands of applications were received regarding the plots for individual housing construction!

It turns out that citizens patriotically beat themselves in the chest, they say, we are against private ownership of the land, but my 10 are, we have to give!

- You have brought very illustrative examples. But overall, Marat, taking into account the marked trend of “virtualization of politics” and precedents of the active inclusion of a large number of citizens in the development of the provocative themes, are more serious actions of influence possible in Kazakhstan to destabilize the situation in the country, unconstitutional change of power, etc.?

- I personally do not support conspiracy theories, I don’t like the theme of “color revolutions” and I think that the indication as the main reasons for such activities of NGOs, the influence of political technologies and the like is media noise.

Actually, such cataclysms are possible if there are two conditions: a split in the elite and betrayal of the siloviki. This is what we have seen everywhere: from Egypt and Tunisia to Kyrgyzstan.

Among the prerequisites are also the dependence of the state economy on guest workers, that is, on people who are outside the country; small scale of state and quasi-public sector; the presence of numerous oligarchs and large-scale shadow economy.

Based on the above criteria, is a “color revolution” possible in Kazakhstan?

I suppose not.

In reality, 9 millions of economically active population of 5 millions work for the state, including the giant quasi-public sector. There are practically no Kazakhstani guest workers. The activities of a few oligarchs, as they say, in plain sight. Plus - the ability of the authorities to take decisive action.

Well, also our president is not Akayev and Yanukovych. And the environment is different, no one is going to run away.

That is, the chances for a “color revolution” in Kazakhstan, in my opinion, are minimal. For this, numerous and quite unfavorable circumstances must come together. But it could just as well happen in the United States. We see what is happening there now.

“But nowadays there are plenty of examples of how external factors influence the destabilization of the situation in various states. One of such factors is terrorism, the manifestations of which recently took place in Aktobe, and precedents are also known in the earlier period. How relevant is the threat of terrorism for Kazakhstan?

- Terrorism is a global threat that is relevant to all states of the world without exception. And this is also a mass of evidence. In our republic history terrorist activity can be divided into several stages. If at the dawn of independence it was mainly "external" terrorism - representatives of the Islamic Party of Eastern Turkestan, Chechen militants and representatives of the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan were operating on our territory, then later "home-grown" terrorists appeared. Their critical mass has increased by the 2011-2012 years. The last, until recent terrorist attack in Aktobe, a terrorist act took place in 2012 year. And the fact that for three and a half years there were no terrorist attacks on the territory of the country is an encouraging indicator.

In principle, Aktobe is an accident from which no country in the world is insured.

In Kazakhstan, around 350-400 convicted terrorists are serving sentences. That is, it is a very small percentage of the total population. Although it is no reason to ignore the problem.

It should be noted that after 2012, law enforcement and intelligence agencies successfully tracked terrorists on the facts of acquisition weapons. This time the criminals did not follow the thumbnail, they decided to take the weapon themselves.

This is another lesson to the special services, a signal that terrorists and extremists are acting more and more sophisticated methods.

The indisputable advantage of the situation in this area in Kazakhstan is that there is no large grouping here that opposes the authorities, there are only relatively few scattered groups. But they, as a rule, are unpredictable in their actions. This is the main danger.

Therefore, I do not exclude that in the long term terrorist acts on the territory of the republic will still take place in the form of single attacks.
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  1. izya top
    izya top 15 July 2016 18: 26
    +3
    so Nazarbayev is an old Chekist ... and even the most striking example does not allow himself to be forgotten
    1. Khariton
      Khariton 15 July 2016 18: 32
      0
      Well, here is my favorite topic on Friday ... Well, it started the Kazakh brothers? Only without insults and insults ..Alga?
      1. cniza
        cniza 15 July 2016 19: 17
        +7
        Quote: iza top
        so Nazarbayev is an old Chekist ... and even the most striking example does not allow himself to be forgotten


        One misfortune, Nazarbayev is not eternal, I really hope that he is raising himself a worthy change otherwise ...
        1. g1v2
          g1v2 15 July 2016 20: 08
          +3
          All these turbulences that have recently been taking place in the Republic of Kazakhstan are preparations for a fight that will happen after the death of Nazarbayev. Clans clutch in battle and mattresses try to seize power in this dump - that is, lead one of the clans to victory. We will also have to prepare for this fight, and for this it would be nice for the National Academy of Sciences to decide on a successor while still holding power and gradually begin to transfer it to him. We do not know the alignment of forces in the Russian Federation and whom to support, too, it is better if the NAS itself says for whom to fit in if that.
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      3. Max_Bauder
        Max_Bauder 16 July 2016 11: 35
        +1
        You are looking for fish in the wrong place, there is a coup in Turkey, and here again the theme is "in Kazakhstan", if there is a prefix -stan at the end, this does not mean anything. Even in Tajikistan or Uzbekistan, the probability is greater than ours. I am surprised to the authors, if only ... I will push it to draw attention to the article. Just like Rezun - Stalin himself wanted to attack Hitler, but he was ahead of him! belay and the theme rushed! Everyone thinks "oh well ... pb" and read it greedily smile
    2. Alexei
      Alexei 15 July 2016 18: 40
      +1
      Personally, I would add the title of the article by adding "next 10 years" at the end. Our problem is that we are staring too closely at the present.
      1. DIVAN SOLDIER
        DIVAN SOLDIER 15 July 2016 19: 12
        +5
        About Ukraine, too, they did not think that there would be a civil war, but it was ongoing. So the expert is probably wrong.
        1. Semurg
          Semurg 15 July 2016 19: 37
          +2
          Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
          About Ukraine, too, they did not think that there would be a civil war, but it was ongoing. So the expert is probably wrong.

          Iksperd is very much mistaken in Kazakhstan, full of Wahhabis of short men in each regional center, several thousand people of young strong guys who have been broken into cells who have known each other since childhood, who are still waiting for a moment and an order. add to this the political and economic comprador elite, add to this the problem of closure of social lifts, tribalism, etc. itp. Well, the old man in power who pulls with the transfer of power in a legitimate way is probably presented to him by his environment, which is all in chocolate.
          1. dr.star75
            dr.star75 15 July 2016 19: 57
            +1
            "Kazakhstan is full of short-pants Wahhabis in each regional center, several thousand young strong guys, broken into cells who have known each other since childhood" - You are exaggerating a little. To create such a network requires a lot of time and money, and the absence of COUNTERACTION on the part of the authorities (which was in Ukraine), and in Kazakhstan they are being successfully liquidated.
            1. Semurg
              Semurg 15 July 2016 21: 55
              +2
              There was a roll of time for 20 years, not too little money was pumped in, only more than 100 people studied at the Islamic Academy in Egypt, and this business is not cheap. at the expense of counteraction to the authorities in the same Egypt, the Muslim brothers were easily hung up and they took and came to power.
      2. vovanpain
        vovanpain 15 July 2016 19: 15
        +7
        such a phenomenon of modernity as “virtualization of politics” follows - people begin to hysteria about the information that they draw on Facebook or other resources, trusting the stuffing and outright fakes. They are not able to separate reality from fiction, to critically look at phenomena and processes. By the way, this also applies to our officials, many of whom are on Facebook and clearly overestimate its capabilities and threats: “Oh, in the tape they wrote that tens of thousands of people will go tomorrow for a demonstration! What to do, what to do? ”

        This is the problem of all the states that all face-to-face and one-class contact color revolution has touched. It all started with posts on social networks, ended with revolutions, pogroms and war. Nazarbayev is not Yanukovoshev, this is a Soviet school, it says a lot. hi But what will happen after him, the question is not very simple. request
        1. Dr. Bormental
          Dr. Bormental 15 July 2016 19: 45
          -1
          The question is, what should we do? They imposed, bastards, almost from everywhere ... in our age, the information war is worth a lot ... what are our people doing in this war? Answer lunges? This is not an option .. hi
        2. Dr. Bormental
          Dr. Bormental 15 July 2016 19: 45
          +1
          The question is, what should we do? They imposed, bastards, almost from everywhere ... in our age, the information war is worth a lot ... what are our people doing in this war? Answer lunges? This is not an option .. hi
          1. dr.star75
            dr.star75 15 July 2016 20: 02
            +2
            The "color revolution" will not work in Kazakhstan. Nazarbayev is an adequate leader (by the way, he was the initiator of the creation of the union of our states, and Yeltsin sent him), he either jails all the provocateurs or kills them. In general, he can ask for help from the CSTO, and then polite people will put things in order.
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 16 July 2016 07: 22
              -2
              Quote: dr.star75
              The "color revolution" will not work in Kazakhstan. Nazarbayev is an adequate leader

              Well, he is not eternal
              Quote: dr.star75
              he’s either provocateurs or plants, or soaks.

              he wets not only provocateurs but also adequate rivals, but the fact that everyone is ridiculous
              Quote: dr.star75
              he may ask for help at the CSTO

              or maybe not in time, and not he, but a possible receiver
          2. Khariton
            Khariton 15 July 2016 20: 05
            -4
            Quote: Dr. Bormental
            The question is, what should we do? They imposed, bastards, almost from everywhere ... in our age, the information war is worth a lot ... what are our people doing in this war? Answer lunges? This is not an option .. hi

            The doctor doubles you .. the Internet is jamming (it was the same with me, maybe you’re hacked?))) hi
          3. iliitchitch
            iliitchitch 15 July 2016 20: 59
            0
            In an information war, it is too late to fight for the souls of their population. The grunts have a trough from which you can take a sip almost for free, in turn for the "top managers". We, too, already have such grunts multiplying exponentially, it's time to calm down.
            I think that the time has come for self-isolation, not in the sense of trade, but in the sense of traditional values. No wonder we have the dominant religion of Orthodoxy, and they have Latin heresy + derivatives. Radical Islam - yes, in stock, but solvable. To Buddhists, as always, in the fig, Jews are on their minds, as always ... The spiritual component in the life of ANY person takes up a considerable part of the soul. So gather all the leaders and explain that the fight is not good, and the Russian Guard will see to it that it is good. And let THESE rage, the barrel of gunpowder burned, and we put out? Thank . In our few colonies, negroes taught literacy, and the British made stuffed animals from Indians. No, they’re not a sidekick to us. So there is no need to respond to attacks, about Thomas and about Yeryoma have already passed. When they have a burn out in the ass area, you just have to be ready, for once.
    3. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 16 July 2016 07: 07
      +1
      Quote: izya top
      so Nazarbayev is an old KGB officer ..

      Why is that?
  2. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 15 July 2016 18: 26
    +3
    rely on "experts" - do not respect yourself, I get "information" from friends, more and more precisely, and lately, "infa" does not make me happy ... and 10-5 years ago, it did not please ... chuika such-while Nazarbayev is in the saddle-hold the situevina, the amerovskie ghouls will be displaced- it will be bad, from the word VERY.
  3. Imperialkolorad
    Imperialkolorad 15 July 2016 18: 29
    +5
    Nazarbayev is far from Yanukovych and that says a lot.
    1. tatra
      tatra 15 July 2016 19: 16
      0
      Against Yanukovych were not only madanut, but the whole West, led by the Americans. He was placed in such conditions that he would lose anyway.
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 16 July 2016 07: 23
        -1
        Quote: tatra
        but the whole West is led by the Americans. He was placed in such conditions that in any case he would lose

        and nazik has enough grandmothers in not RK, so that they would take him as a yanuk for moshna and blackmail
  4. tatra
    tatra 15 July 2016 18: 39
    +1
    Who so stupidly calls revolutions the revolutions that the enemies of the Communists organize on the territory of the former USSR, depriving each other of power, property, money, and always leaving the System unchanged?
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 16 July 2016 07: 24
      0
      Quote: tatra
      enemies of the communists

      they are not enemies of the communists, or rather communists are secondary to them, Russia is primary
  5. KVashentcev
    KVashentcev 15 July 2016 18: 39
    0
    But we are preparing something ... Facts:
    In Samara, Ekat, Kazan, taxi drivers are just trying to "boil, boil ..."
    The French Embassy in Moscow was sewn up with iron, not a checkpoint, and the checkpoint became
    American - the perimeter was strengthened, the Americans were apparently instructed to completely stop communicating with Russian personnel, although they had been friends before.
    I hope that everything will work out and the authorities will meet POSSIBLE events fully armed
  6. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 15 July 2016 18: 39
    +1
    Rock Kazakhstan - this is not to bake ukroippodrom. It is quite sane people, not freeloaders, in a hurry to Europe. Moreover, Nazarbayev laid the straw for sure where necessary.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 16 July 2016 07: 26
      -1
      Quote: iliitch
      do not rush to Europe

      but what does Europe have to do with it ?! will offer another carrot
      Quote: iliitch
      It is quite sane people, not freeloaders

      the crowd was never sane, you can always find the topic on which it starts, and you don’t need to start the whole population to raise a fairly active part in two cities of the Republic of Kazakhstan
  7. avvg
    avvg 15 July 2016 18: 41
    0
    As long as Nazarbayev is alive, he will not "stand on ceremony" with them, he will treat the "revolutionaries" as the Chinese did in 1989 in Tiananmen Square.
    1. Khariton
      Khariton 15 July 2016 19: 00
      -1
      Quote: avvg
      As long as Nazarbayev is alive, he will not "stand on ceremony" with them, he will treat the "revolutionaries" as the Chinese did in 1989 in Tiananmen Square.

      The Chinese do not need a "Kazakh Maidan" ... They need profits and territories!
      1. iliitchitch
        iliitchitch 16 July 2016 00: 47
        0
        Quote: Chariton
        The Chinese do not need a "Kazakh Maidan" ... They need profits and territories!


        Well, where does this come from? The Chinese would have some water in the wilderness, there is mom-not-grieve territory.
        "The Chinese need territory, the Chinese need technology, the Chinese need our children, the Chinese need our women." The latter is true, by the way, they have a minus about women. Yes, the Chinese generally need EVERYTHING! While there the communist tangerines are sitting on the throne (and they will be sitting for a long time), hell they will twitch, and by that time everything would be so mixed up that no one would think about war and thoughts.
        If you yourself are smart-ass, then you don't need to suspect your neighbor of being smart-ass, otherwise you will hang in a state of permanent war with the world around you and your neighbor. Especially for Mikhanov and Kharitonov, I report that I've seen enough of the "far-seeing".
  8. Khariton
    Khariton 15 July 2016 18: 49
    -1
    I think in Kazakhstan (on the border of Russia) the militants will have no chance when the fishing and hunting season begins! hi At another time, patrols are needed there, etc. And in general, the Iskanders are stationed, if anything ...
    1. Khariton
      Khariton 15 July 2016 19: 03
      -2
      Here is the first minus went ..))))
      1. Atlant-1164
        Atlant-1164 15 July 2016 19: 16
        +2
        hold plus +) compensate.
      2. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 16 July 2016 07: 43
        -1
        Yes, and he went right, as koment is not a topic, what have the Iskander, fishermen and hunters
    2. Semurg
      Semurg 15 July 2016 19: 25
      -2
      Quote: Chariton
      I think in Kazakhstan (on the border of Russia) the militants will have no chance when the fishing and hunting season begins! hi At another time, patrols are needed there, etc. And in general, the Iskanders are stationed, if anything ...

      It is necessary to hold a referendum in Kazakhstan after the death of the National Academy of Sciences on the topic "our lands are abundant and rich, but there is no order - so come and own us." They indulged in independence for a couple of decades, destroyed and sold everything built under the union. it's time to return to the unbreakable alliance that was united by the great Russia.
      1. Khariton
        Khariton 15 July 2016 19: 43
        0
        Quote: Semurg
        Quote: Chariton
        I think in Kazakhstan (on the border of Russia) the militants will have no chance when the fishing and hunting season begins! hi At another time, patrols are needed there, etc. And in general, the Iskanders are stationed, if anything ...

        It is necessary to hold a referendum in Kazakhstan after the death of the National Academy of Sciences on the topic "our lands are abundant and rich, but there is no order - so come and own us." They indulged in independence for a couple of decades, destroyed and sold everything built under the union. it's time to return to the unbreakable alliance that was united by the great Russia.

        Oh, you are so cunning ...! We do not need foreign territories ... bully Purely fishing, if that ..)))) bully (We still have enough of Crimea!))))
        1. Semurg
          Semurg 15 July 2016 22: 02
          +1
          Recently I read that our vhabites practice on lakes and reserves. they’ll catch Mihan and have to part with the foreskin and admit that Allah is great or the head of the ax. About 3 years ago huntsmen and family cut out such Wahhabis in the reserve
  9. Khariton
    Khariton 15 July 2016 18: 54
    -2
    We are waiting for the Kazakh brothers!)))) "Jewish brothers" usually react immediately ... Mossad! In short, we are waiting.
    1. Banishing liberoids
      Banishing liberoids 15 July 2016 19: 15
      0
      You’re waiting for horseradish empty-handed, run after the cognac -Hariton !!! wassat
      1. Chisayna
        Chisayna 15 July 2016 19: 20
        0
        Yes, where do you send it. It cannot stop after the first bottle, it gives out such pearls: we will wet it, interrupt everyone, break it, etc.
        1. Dr. Bormental
          Dr. Bormental 15 July 2016 19: 33
          0
          What, comedians today from America?
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        3. Prisoner
          Prisoner 15 July 2016 20: 04
          0
          This is your Hiltonikha bukhaya for all Bosko from birth. Everybody laughs at a hooligan.
      2. Khariton
        Khariton 15 July 2016 19: 46
        +1
        Quote: Expelling Liberoids
        You’re waiting for horseradish empty-handed, run after the cognac -Hariton !!! wassat

        I can’t ... And what brandy? drinks
        1. Banishing liberoids
          Banishing liberoids 15 July 2016 20: 29
          0
          Hariton - what buy laughing for example, I have three liters of Derbent, and a liter of Armenian cognac is worth it.
          1. Khariton
            Khariton 15 July 2016 20: 38
            -1
            Quote: Expelling Liberoids
            Hariton - what buy laughing for example, I have three liters of Derbent, and a liter of Armenian cognac is worth it.

            I always loved Armenian .... Oh, that damn girl, a freaky babai! That's why I like the way they behave ... Provocateurs in life .. they live by that! hi
        2. ALABAY45
          ALABAY45 15 July 2016 20: 40
          0
          You can’t, well, ask ..?! wink They brought Kaliningrad, Trophy.
          I! Mine, originally from the Kaliningrad region, muddied: peaches, pitted, inside local strawberries (Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug-Yugra), without green "ass", honey and coconut on top and, in the oven, before baking .. Portions! Cool .. on top of whipped cream with grated chocolate and cloudberry syrup ... My wife and I fell into gastronomic "perversions", we are doing well ... goodYes, I forgot to add, cognac - do not chill ...
          1. Khariton
            Khariton 15 July 2016 20: 54
            -1
            Quote: ALABAY45
            You can’t, well, ask ..?! wink They brought Kaliningrad, Trophy.
            I! Mine, originally from the Kaliningrad region, muddied: peaches, pitted, inside local strawberries (Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug-Yugra), without green "ass", honey and coconut on top and, in the oven, before baking .. Portions! Cool .. on top of whipped cream with grated chocolate and cloudberry syrup ... My wife and I fell into gastronomic "perversions", we are doing well ... goodYes, I forgot to add, cognac - do not chill ...

            Our man ...))) And I like to sit in a bar with a glass of cognac with chocolate and coffee! Youth is dancing ... But I remember my youth .. hi And sometimes we play chess there! Soothes all this clearly ...
            1. ALABAY45
              ALABAY45 15 July 2016 21: 06
              -1
              "... And I like to sit in a bar with a glass of cognac and chocolate and coffee ..."
              You are lucky! am And, me, my, she’s not letting go anywhere: not to a bar, not to a disco, or to a meeting with classmates ... recourse Although, probably, and does the right thing ... Libido is sacred! "Classmates" .... crying
    2. Dr. Bormental
      Dr. Bormental 15 July 2016 19: 30
      0
      Greetings, Khariton ... once the Jews got so angry - I don’t grieve ... What is interesting - at first one got out, and then a bunch of them ran right in ... I still can’t understand how they were so consolidated deftly against me .. . smile
      1. Khariton
        Khariton 15 July 2016 20: 02
        -1
        Quote: Dr. Bormental
        Greetings, Khariton ... once the Jews got so angry - I don’t grieve ... What is interesting - at first one got out, and then a bunch of them ran right in ... I still can’t understand how they were so consolidated deftly against me .. . smile

        In vain you wrote it here, it’s so obvious ... (are you not afraid of problems?)) .. Here I will tell you (I AM EVERYTHING IS ALREADY ALREADY))) ... There is such a professor, I used to always go to turtles, they rebooted him and then rebooted again, etc ... Well, a harmful and malicious snitch)))) Two years ago, the status of the Website Consultant was assigned.! bully Nobody knows what and whom he advises ... And the lads have risen clearly! They are the main ones, which, in principle, is not surprising .. (in all countries, this is ..)))))
      2. Chisayna
        Chisayna 15 July 2016 20: 21
        0
        Schwonders do not sleep, schwonders are always on the alert, they are everywhere, they are among us. Schwonders are indestructible.
        1. Dr. Bormental
          Dr. Bormental 15 July 2016 21: 42
          -1
          Here is the echidna))
        2. Dr. Bormental
          Dr. Bormental 15 July 2016 21: 42
          0
          Here is the echidna))
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  10. Atlant-1164
    Atlant-1164 15 July 2016 19: 14
    +9
    well done Nursultan Abishevich ... he has kept the country in peace and stability for 25 years. a wise man and a reliable ally. not a trader. like some of our allies.
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 15 July 2016 19: 29
      +8
      You know, I won’t say that I, as a Kazakhstani, am proud of my president, moreover, I even dislike him in many ways, although I vote for him, but ...
      On May 21 of this year, a wave of "Maidan" under the slogan "Shal ket!" (Old man, go away). So, all my friends agreed with me that on this day we simply have to come to this demonstration in Pavlodar and give cuffs to these screaming degenerates bully
      1. Zymran
        15 July 2016 19: 46
        0
        And how did they go?
        1. Wiruz
          Wiruz 15 July 2016 19: 52
          +1
          And how did they go?

          Unfortunately, no way. That day I was on the shift night. A day later, he celebrated his past birthday request
        2. Dr. Bormental
          Dr. Bormental 15 July 2016 19: 56
          -1
          Well ... and what are the results?
          1. Wiruz
            Wiruz 15 July 2016 20: 00
            +1
            Well ... and what are the results?

            Only forty people came to the square. Local riot police quickly dispersed them quietly, but one, however, was tied. And we, with the personnel of the workshop, agreed that it was necessary to impose a curfew, and those who ignore it should press on with armored personnel carriers bully
            1. Khariton
              Khariton 15 July 2016 20: 29
              -3
              Quote: Wiruz
              Well ... and what are the results?

              Only forty people came to the square. Local riot police quickly dispersed them quietly, but one, however, was tied. And we, with the personnel of the workshop, agreed that it was necessary to impose a curfew, and those who ignore it should press on with armored personnel carriers bully

              It is not for nothing that we have built border towns on the border with Kazakhstan ... And behind them there are still Missile units with Iskander and tanks! Not reliably in Kazakhstan .. No matter how the Chinese climbed (they bought everything from you there))) You Kazakhs played out, the west is waiting for the death of Nursultan ..! And redistribution of property will begin ... And blood!
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  11. fif21
    fif21 15 July 2016 19: 15
    0
    The "sleeping" cells of Alqaida, the terrorist underground, are the realities of today's world. And the real threat is not only for Kazakhstan. In Syria, natives of the Russian Federation, Central Asian republics, the EU, Great Britain are fighting on the side of ISIS .... Taking an "ostrich" position on this issue is fraught with consequences. hi
  12. ALABAY45
    ALABAY45 15 July 2016 19: 16
    +2
    "Trans-Siberian Express": "You, of course, scandalous woman ... Sasha," cuckoo "..! Guys, review the film! good Quality, voice acting, acting .... Even my wife, the main character of the film, Asanali Ashimova, said: "Bai! Cool buy!" 1977 ...
    1. marshes
      marshes 15 July 2016 21: 32
      +1
      Quote: ALABAY45
      "Trans-Siberian Express"

      There’s a good topic, here’s a pity the clip is without endings. When a girl asks who you are ...
      1. ALABAY45
        ALABAY45 15 July 2016 22: 02
        0
        Nameplate on the pistol: "To the Red Chekist Omar Kasymkhanov" ... ACTOR !!! hi
  13. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 15 July 2016 19: 19
    0
    From the beginning of the year, this FIG knows what an article about the Maidan in Kazakhstan! Write about the Maidan is not worn out ??? For Maidan workers, it will be easier for you to wait for a diarrhea from a mosquito than Nazorbayev will release their situation under control.
  14. Dr. Bormental
    Dr. Bormental 15 July 2016 19: 26
    0
    There were Kazakhs forever .. where did everyone go? The opinion of eyewitnesses is in the studio .... fellow
    1. Semurg
      Semurg 15 July 2016 19: 45
      +3
      Quote: Dr. Bormental
      There were Kazakhs forever .. where did everyone go? The opinion of eyewitnesses is in the studio .... fellow

      They are tired
      1. Dr. Bormental
        Dr. Bormental 15 July 2016 19: 49
        0
        Quote: Semurg
        They are tired

        Here’s how they don’t need them, they’re sitting here - they comment on how acute the situation is, requiring their consultation - so these devils all ran away ... they now have a hunting season, especially Friday ... you can understand the men))) drinks
        1. Mowgli
          Mowgli 16 July 2016 08: 04
          +2
          Quote: Dr. Bormental
          so these devils all ran away ...


          Dear, about the devils: I think you are not so evil, but out of ignorance.
          Do not call people devils.
          This is not good.

          And about the consultations: but there is nothing to advise there.
          Well, there were several hundred "torpedoes" all over Kazakhstan.
          So your (RF) "million marches" collect much more.
          So what?
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 16 July 2016 08: 16
            0
            Quote: Mowgli
            So what?

            and nothing, it’s these few hundred that will create the right background
            1. Mowgli
              Mowgli 16 July 2016 08: 59
              0
              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
              Quote: Mowgli
              So what?

              and nothing, it’s these few hundred that will create the right background


              In Zhanaozen they created, yes.
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 16 July 2016 09: 33
                -1
                over the banderlogs the same giggled, about Hussein and Gaddafi already just keep quiet
                but about zhanaozen, they tried it, it didn't grow together, and this hole on the periphery does not matter, that's when they "try" in Tselinograd or Alma-Ata, then we will discuss
                1. Mowgli
                  Mowgli 16 July 2016 11: 38
                  +1
                  that's when they "try" in Tselinograd


                  There is no such city. There is Astana.
                  1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                    Vasilenko Vladimir 16 July 2016 11: 56
                    0
                    there is such a city, even go to G
                    1. Mowgli
                      Mowgli 16 July 2016 15: 21
                      0
                      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                      there is such a city, even go to G


                      There is no such city.
                      Look at the map.
                      And you, as a resident of Koenigsberg, have nothing to do with either Astana, Tselinograd or the Akmola fortress, you didn’t personally build it, and nothing of yours is there. And the country where you suffer so much is not. These are modern realities.
                      But shit is not necessary. Can fly back.
                      At this end.
                      Sau bololyz.
                      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir 16 July 2016 16: 27
                        0
                        Quote: Mowgli
                        And you, as a resident of Koenigsberg

                        Well, firstly, I'm not a resident of Köngsberg, unlike you, I have a very direct relationship to Akmola (not Astana), I paid personally to the non-budgetary fund "new capital" on a voluntary compulsory basis for the construction of this very "capital"
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      3. Khariton
        Khariton 15 July 2016 20: 11
        -1
        Quote: Semurg
        Quote: Dr. Bormental
        There were Kazakhs forever .. where did everyone go? The opinion of eyewitnesses is in the studio .... fellow

        They are tired

        Yes, they are afraid! ))) Today is Friday in Russia! Even Israel does not get in touch ... bully
        1. Banishing liberoids
          Banishing liberoids 15 July 2016 20: 32
          0
          Hariton, a long time ago from the Israelis did not catch the minuses? wassat
          1. Khariton
            Khariton 15 July 2016 20: 46
            0
            Quote: Expelling Liberoids
            Hariton, a long time ago from the Israelis did not catch the minuses? wassat

            Yes, every day (I wonder how they haven’t shot yet ..))) Now the administrator is probably being tortured ... (he was sold to mikhans)))) ..! fellow Probably shoot! They have such tactics, they’ll probably push the general and then bam, ban without warning ... They are waiting for me to start asking for mercy ..! You’re not lying.) bully
    2. marshes
      marshes 15 July 2016 21: 44
      +1
      Quote: Dr. Bormental
      There were Kazakhs forever .. where did everyone go? The opinion of eyewitnesses is in the studio ....

      Quote: Semurg
      They are tired

      Someone at the computer all day and someone earned tengushka.
  15. tomket
    tomket 15 July 2016 19: 45
    0
    And what about Zakharchenko in the DPR?
  16. family tree
    family tree 15 July 2016 20: 15
    -1
    Yes, no matter how it rides there, in Kazakhstan. There is still China nearby, and Nazarbayev, well, not a fig, not Yanukovych, because what
  17. masiya
    masiya 15 July 2016 20: 29
    +2
    Nazarbayev will not surrender Kazakhstan, this is a fact, but who will be after him, and what kind of forces will be pulled up there, is a question!
    1. Khariton
      Khariton 15 July 2016 21: 31
      -4
      Quote: masiya
      Nazarbayev will not surrender Kazakhstan, this is a fact, but who will be after him, and what kind of forces will be pulled up there, is a question!

      Well, we will be in time for the first Russians ... (Usraina, we have a good lesson ..) And we’ll wet immediately! Well, there you sold something to the Chinese ..))) We will agree with them ...
  18. Zymran
    16 July 2016 11: 28
    +1
    Shibutov is one of the few adequate experts in Kazakhstan. However, he slightly underestimates the protest mood in society.